Wolverine's origins are pretty tough to trace. From his introduction in Incredible Hulk he was just a Canadian maniac. Then they built up all the Weapon X stuff. Then they went with the "Sabretooth is his dad" thing. Now post-Secret Wars, they've scrambled it up again. They've rewritten his history almost as much as Captain America. I wish they could pick a narrative and just stick with it.
Rose is the reason why he loves Jean Grey 'cas of the resemblence. Ofcourse, the trauma of killing Rose caused his healing factor to erase his memory to prevent mental damage.
+Telly Vin-a Sabertooth and Wolvie have no relation, they met during the Weapon X project. besides, Sabertooths name is Victor Creed. not Dog Logan, or " " Logan. when i first read this story, i actually thought that Dog was Victor... but it turns out they are not. just similar mutantion. like Wolfsbane, Sasquatch Beast... its just a beast like mutation... HOWEVER, the Watcher once told a story about how Wolverine was found in the woods as a baby (abandoned by his clan) and was adopted to replace the Howletts now deceased son James hence his name. Watcher went on to say, that Wolverine was a decendant of a clan of almost wolf like humons (original humans) that worshiped the moon... and Sabertooth was from a clan that worshiped the sun. both deriving from clans that went all the way back to the original humans that escaped the Celestial experimentation which in turn introduced mutation/powers/death/illness. because these "OH's" had wolvies healing factor, and thus did not know illness nor death. but only a handful escaped the Celestials.
Ya know, I have a Theory. Rose: Red head, green eyes, Kind, strong, loved Logan even though he was dangerous and had these weird powers, killed by Logan's claws. Jean Grey: Red head, green eyes, Kind, strong, loved Logan even though he was dangerous, killed by Logan's claws. Even though Logan's memories were very faint, he could probably still remember Rose just a little bit, and Jean reminded him of Rose, that's probably why he loved her so much.
The writers of Origin mention that they drew Rose to resemble Jean to lend itself exactly to this theory. That goes first love is the reason he is so into Jean, subconsciously.
Your theory is correct, and Dog is a Sabretooth like analog. So I wonder if there are anymore analogs here? Cookie = blob? Smitty = Cyclops? Does the whole Quarry group represent the X-Men in some way?!?!
The version you watched was X Men Origins Wolverine which was FOX adaptation of his origins which involves instead of Dog Logan being related to Wolverine it was Sabretooth and Sabretooth would be the one he would leave with
My biggest dream is to one day direct an animated movie based on the comic. Delves deeper into Wolverine’s relationship with his parents, Rose as his older sister figure, and Dog as his brother figure/tragic enemy.
A rich kid, a love interest, a best friend from the slum with his crazy father, dog bitten the friend, and Logan's father killed by his best friend. Yeah I see what you meant.
Remember past or not...wolvie still a good man at his heart.i hope when his old enough he surely just remember the good things and only good things happen to him
R.I.P man Everytime I watch a video I can't stop to think you made my childhood I watched your videos in class helped me get away from everything I'd fall asleep too your videos it's just hard to realize that you're gone
+Altar360 right not the cool story by jim lee that he was the best weapon that was produced by an underground mercenary group who code named him weapon x, wolverine was the title given to him by alpha flight telling you marvel and their darn retcons
no prior to that story he really didn't have an origin just somewhat of a back story but this was his first origins and I believe they came out either late nineties or early 2000
after this orgin only in the newer version. see marvel has many universes with their own origins and on top of that they retcon their characters a lot which means to do a rewrite and pretty much ignore the original origin or back story
I really do love how you guys keep using Michal Turner pieces for the backdrops. Why not do Aspen comics like Fathom or Soulfire like you guys do with variant comics?
I would love it if you did a part 2 with Weapon X and Alpha Flight and how he got from the ending of this story to joining the Xmen. Wolverine has a long orgin and not many people know the whole story so it would be great for people who want learn about Wolverine
It would have been a better story if Dog was Sabertooth and Rose was Mystique when they were young, all three characters intertwined from the very beginning.
I agree that Dog should’ve been Sabretooth, but Mystique being Rose? That’s just random. Nothing about Rose gives Mystique vibes. Rose is supposed to be an analog for Jean Grey
Cool. Can you cover Wolverine: Origins - The Series? It had a nifty fight with Deadpool where Logan was maneuvered into having a piano being dropped on him in the middle of the fight outside to Deadpool's complete amusement. I'm sure there was a lot of interesting things actually, it's just a bit hard to collect them all. I think there's at least 30-50 of them.
+D'Andre Palmer Sabertooth and Wolvie have no relation, they met during the Weapon X project. besides, Sabertooths name is Victor Creed. not Dog Logan, or " " Logan. when i first read this story, i actually thought that Dog was Victor... but it turns out they are not. just similar mutantion. like Wolfsbane, Sasquatch Beast... its just a beast like mutation... HOWEVER, the Watcher once told a story about how Wolverine was found in the woods as a baby (abandoned by his clan) and was adopted to replace the Howletts now deceased son James hence his name. Watcher went on to say, that Wolverine was a decendant of a clan of almost wolf like humons (original humans) that worshiped the moon... and Sabertooth was from a clan that worshiped the sun. both deriving from clans that went all the way back to the original humans that escaped the Celestial experimentation which in turn introduced mutation/powers/death/illness. because these "OH's" had wolvies healing factor, and thus did not know illness nor death. but only a handful escaped the Celestials.
You said at one point you might do manga hopefully that day comes soon I will give a suggestion for a really good manga how about berserk it's a monthly issue and it's freaking awsome anyways nice vid man love your channel it's freaking awesome
I just bought and read this today and I regret not buying more. This was an insanely good read. (i normally only read manga and light novels so maybe my standards are a bit low when it comes to comics )
I dont get it,when the traumas,so the bad memorys,heal over and he forgets them,how does it come he remembers all the other loved ones he put into the grave?
Sad you didnt mention that they called him wolverine cause he was really hardworking in the mines. i mean, it has no bog significance in the story but still haha LOVE YOUR WORK
for you people ou there who want more, heres everything: this: 1800s he fights in every american war after this 1970s/1980s: weapon x from there on, all the comic book storylines start
The direction I thought they were going to go with Wolverine's origin story (and now wish they had gone): (Sorry about the length) They seemed to have set it up to make most readers believe (only to switch it up on us at the end) that Dog was going to be the half brother or the unacknowledged full older brother of James, and that Dog would eventually become the character known to us as Sabertooth. The way that they drew the grandfather ('John Howlett the 1st') also seemed to be intentional, and implied that he too was related to Thomas Logan (and his sons Dog and James, and John Howlett the 3rd - the other, now deceased, older half or full blooded brother of James). John Howlett the 2nd (Jame's step father, who he was raised to believe was his actual father) seems to have been written to fill the role of the milquetoast 'nice guy' cucklord type in this origin story. John's wife, Elizabeth Howlett (nee Hudson), not only birthed John Howlett the 3rd (the other son who scarred her back up before he died/ was killed) with another man (it's implied that Thomas was the father that time, as well, but I think they should have made it that it was the grandfather's child and that the grandfather killed him after he unintentionally let the family's mutant secret out when he bone clawed his mom after finding out his father wasn't who he thought he was), she then goes on to bear James with Thomas Logan, and possibly even Dog before that (between John Howlett the 3rd and James). I remember reading the origin mini series thinking that they were going to eventually reveal Thomas Logan to be the biological son of the grandfather (John Howlett the 1st, who the artist drew to look just like him with the stereotypical 'Wolverine'-like facial features, etc). I remember thinking that they were going to disclose that the grandfather was a carrier of the same mutant genome as Wolverine and Sabertooth (assuming they were going to show that Dog was in fact Sabertooth), and that Thomas Logan was also a carrier but just a weak carrier (or that he had not had his potential mutant abilities fully triggered to express themselves, yet). I assumed we'd get a back story showing that 'John Howlett the 1st' (the grandfather) had stolen the Howlett name and taken over the estate and the copper mining business of some rich man named John Howlett - a man that he'd murdered decades ago in order to get to where he is now. I thought that they were going to write it so that the grandfather was fearful of keeping his biological son, Thomas (who carried his father's actual last name, Logan), directly tied to the (newly stolen) Howlett family name and riches because Thomas knew the truth about how his father got to where he is. Besides that, the grandfather believed that his son Thomas wasn't a worthy successor, feeling that he was too mentally weak and too much of a loose canon to be trusted with the full responsibilities of maintaining the family business and running the estate's affairs, but still letting him stay on the property as the groundskeeper. This was where I figured John Howlett the 2nd's character would come into play. I wanted the story to go that John Howlett the 2nd (Wolverine's step dad) was actually the 'adopted' (stolen) son of John Howlett the 1st (who is really grandfather Logan), and that John Howlett the 2nd was actually the biological son of the real John Howlett the 1st - the man that grandfather Logan had murdered when John Howlett the 2nd was just a tiny infant. Grandfather Logan, already seeing signs of his own wild/ primal aggressive mutant genetic traits start to come out in his actual son, Thomas, needed an heir (or heirs) he could depend on to carry on his stolen family name/ business, and so raised John Howlett the 2nd as his own and manipulated him into becoming the dependable yet pussified cucklord type of a man he'd eventually prove to be. It was said that there was another Howlett son that had died after the estate mansion was built, so they could have made it so that Howlett was another biological son of the real John Howlett the 1st who was raised by grandfather Logan as his first heir (and who was also very young when his parents were killed, and was unable to remember anything about them). I wanted the story to show that Thomas Logan was aware of all of these facts about his father because he'd witnessed all of this transpire when he was a young child (he saw his father bone claw murder/ decapitate the actual John Howlett the 1st and his wife and other Howlett family members who might have gotten in the way of his plans). This would give Thomas all the reason in the world to feel hatred towards John Howlett the 2nd (who, sadly, wouldn't have had the slightest clue as to why he was being hated on so much while they grew up together in a Cain Marko/ Charles Xavier sort of way, assuming Thomas kept his mouth shut about what his Dad actually did to John's real father). This would have set the story up in a way that Wolverine's early life would be an almost perfect mirroring of his step-father, John's, tragic upbringing, the only difference in this case would be that Dog (Sabertooth) would be James' actual biological half brother (if Dog had a different mother) or full blooded (if Dog's mom was also Elizabeth) brother instead of the unacknowledged adopted (step?) brother that John the 2nd was/ is to Thomas. They could have written it so that Thomas Logan keeps his mouth shut out of continued fear of his father's threats to him about ever telling anyone the truth about who they are/ where they came from, and never actually tells his son, Dog, that Dog is the grandson of 'John Howlett the 1st' (aka grandfather Logan), but he does encourage Dog to bully and hate on James (Wolverine) as much as he can in the same way he used to bully John the 2nd while they were growing up (James now filling the same role for Dog that John Howlett the 2nd did for Thomas when they were growing up). The implicit take away reason for Wolverine turning out to be a 'good guy'/ hero (as opposed to the ruthless animalistic killer that he was genetically predisposed to become, just like his grandfather, father and brother, Sabertooth), would be based on the nurturing differences he experienced growing up, having a loving/ caring (c̶u̶c̶k̶ step) father in John Howlett the 2nd. Even if they didn't go in this direction, exactly, they still could have made the origin story 10x better than what they did with a few minor tweaks here and there. They completely dropped the ball on that whole aspect of Wolverine's origin story. I just hope they retcon it again some day to make it at least somewhat interesting (for example; make it so Thomas didn't actually die due to his mutant healing factor and that the grandfather still wants to find Wolverine to kill him like he killed his other grandson for revealing the mutant side of their family to the world) and much more suited to the character that Wolverine is supposed to be.
Wolverine's origins are pretty tough to trace. From his introduction in Incredible Hulk he was just a Canadian maniac. Then they built up all the Weapon X stuff. Then they went with the "Sabretooth is his dad" thing. Now post-Secret Wars, they've scrambled it up again. They've rewritten his history almost as much as Captain America. I wish they could pick a narrative and just stick with it.
His brother not dad and tecinaly he is dog is saber tooth James is logon and if you look at dogs dad you can tell they are half brothers
@@perfectcell5613 Dog Logan and Sabretooth are separate characters
That’s what we got the movie fo lol.
Rose is the reason why he loves Jean Grey 'cas of the resemblence. Ofcourse, the trauma of killing Rose caused his healing factor to erase his memory to prevent mental damage.
+Telly Vin-a i dont think Dog is Sabretooth because Dog never recovered from his scar Wolverine left him as a kid.
+Telly Vin-a dog has a older brother. that's sabertooth.
+Telly Vin-a Sabertooth and Wolvie have no relation, they met during the Weapon X project. besides, Sabertooths name is Victor Creed. not Dog Logan, or " " Logan. when i first read this story, i actually thought that Dog was Victor... but it turns out they are not. just similar mutantion. like Wolfsbane, Sasquatch Beast... its just a beast like mutation... HOWEVER, the Watcher once told a story about how Wolverine was found in the woods as a baby (abandoned by his clan) and was adopted to replace the Howletts now deceased son James hence his name. Watcher went on to say, that Wolverine was a decendant of a clan of almost wolf like humons (original humans) that worshiped the moon... and Sabertooth was from a clan that worshiped the sun. both deriving from clans that went all the way back to the original humans that escaped the Celestial experimentation which in turn introduced mutation/powers/death/illness. because these "OH's" had wolvies healing factor, and thus did not know illness nor death. but only a handful escaped the Celestials.
The Titan List you mean magic celestial?
Smitty was intended to be similar to Cyclops and Dog similar to Sabertooth
Ya know, I have a Theory.
Rose: Red head, green eyes, Kind, strong, loved Logan even though he was dangerous and had these weird powers, killed by Logan's claws.
Jean Grey: Red head, green eyes, Kind, strong, loved Logan even though he was dangerous, killed by Logan's claws.
Even though Logan's memories were very faint, he could probably still remember Rose just a little bit, and Jean reminded him of Rose, that's probably why he loved her so much.
That a good theory
The writers of Origin mention that they drew Rose to resemble Jean to lend itself exactly to this theory. That goes first love is the reason he is so into Jean, subconsciously.
Your theory is correct, and Dog is a Sabretooth like analog. So I wonder if there are anymore analogs here? Cookie = blob? Smitty = Cyclops? Does the whole Quarry group represent the X-Men in some way?!?!
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They should have made this a movie.this would have been the most heart felt movie marvel has done. Drama Oscar winner .
A DC animated movie
B-but I thought Wolverine's origin involved a teleporting Will I Am and Deadpool with his mouth shut and laser eyes for no particular reason.
No this is the true origin stories of wolverine
@@justinallennanney8175 no the movie is actually the real version
The version you watched was X Men Origins Wolverine which was FOX adaptation of his origins which involves instead of Dog Logan being related to Wolverine it was Sabretooth and Sabretooth would be the one he would leave with
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loool... xD
Wolverine is perhaps my favorite member of the XMen as well as a stand alone character
Wow that was really sad, even for someone as brutal as Wolverine
I wanted to come back here thank you for everything you have done for me and other people
I read the Origins of Wolverine when I was a kid. I loved the comic book. I could of sworn the grandfather had bone claws as well.
My biggest dream is to one day direct an animated movie based on the comic. Delves deeper into Wolverine’s relationship with his parents, Rose as his older sister figure, and Dog as his brother figure/tragic enemy.
Love Wolverine. Still my favorite character.
Mine too
I don't know about you guys but Wolverine's origin kinda remind me of JoJo and Dio.
Indeed.
A rich kid, a love interest, a best friend from the slum with his crazy father, dog bitten the friend, and Logan's father killed by his best friend. Yeah I see what you meant.
+Takatora Toudou but wolverine is way less manly than jojo in my opinion
+Takatora Toudou Great, so in a few years we should see a new version of him in a horse race.
+Takatora Toudou Thats exactly what I was thinking and when Dog killed James' dog, I just knew. I just fucking knew..
Anyone else have a sneaking suspicion that Wolverine is the bastard son of Dog's father and his mother?
+SelfAwarePedant Just a reaaaaaaally small one :p
SelfAwarePedant he is
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Yeah I picked up on that too. When Thomas is killed by Wolverine, she goes over to his body and not her husband’s.
I remember reading this story years ago. It had these nice graphics. I'm glad to see it again here.
Did he ever remember his past?
+Seribix Eventually there was a story where he got it all back, I cant remember when it was but was many years after this one was written.
+Comicstorian Can you do Raven's back story?
+Comicstorian I think it was after the house of M story.
+Seribix i was the the last issue of house of m
Benjamin Ramirez hii
Remember past or not...wolvie still a good man at his heart.i hope when his old enough he surely just remember the good things and only good things happen to him
Wolverine : my name is logan
Sabertooth : noo.. it's jimmy
Wolverine is the best anti hero in comics
Gary Allen hell ya
I think deadpool is but it's your opinion
I think Its the punisher
R.I.P man Everytime I watch a video I can't stop to think you made my childhood I watched your videos in class helped me get away from everything I'd fall asleep too your videos it's just hard to realize that you're gone
I loved this comic series.
So, Wolverine's amnesia is a result of his healing factor?
+Altar360 right not the cool story by jim lee that he was the best weapon that was produced by an underground mercenary group who code named him weapon x, wolverine was the title given to him by alpha flight telling you marvel and their darn retcons
Hector Ramos Isn't that story mainly to explain how he got his adamantium skeleton?
no prior to that story he really didn't have an origin just somewhat of a back story but this was his first origins and I believe they came out either late nineties or early 2000
Hector Ramos M'k, so some time after this the Weapon X thing happened
after this orgin only in the newer version. see marvel has many universes with their own origins and on top of that they retcon their characters a lot which means to do a rewrite and pretty much ignore the original origin or back story
"Im the best at what i do, but what i do, isnt very nice" - Logan
wow logans healing factor is so great it even heals trauma induced memories.
Dayum he had it hard that's y he's one of my favorite marvel characters
Howly cow poor wolverine now I understand why hes so distant
Wolverine's the spitting image of his father
Love the way you say "bone class" just at 4:50 mins.
This origin story was way better than the movie
You are a fantastic story teller!
I really do love how you guys keep using Michal Turner pieces for the backdrops. Why not do Aspen comics like Fathom or Soulfire like you guys do with variant comics?
I would love it if you did a part 2 with Weapon X and Alpha Flight and how he got from the ending of this story to joining the Xmen. Wolverine has a long orgin and not many people know the whole story so it would be great for people who want learn about Wolverine
Who’s here after Deadpool and Wolverine ❤️💛?
I'm kinda upset it took so long to do a Wolverine Origin video. But you did a good job with the video as always
Dog? Looks more like a Sabretooth...
i think it is
It isn't, the writers said so
+Paul Dunbar wolverine origins 2 shows why him and sabretooth have a feud
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+Paul Dunbar Heh, I see what you did there.
This is the only Wolverine story i have. Love Isanove's art!!!
The mutant power to totally forget that time you barged into your parents room.
It would have been a better story if Dog was Sabertooth and Rose was Mystique when they were young, all three characters intertwined from the very beginning.
both character got combined ( dog and sabretooth )
Mystique was not even born at this time
I agree that Dog should’ve been Sabretooth, but Mystique being Rose? That’s just random. Nothing about Rose gives Mystique vibes. Rose is supposed to be an analog for Jean Grey
Cool. Can you cover Wolverine: Origins - The Series? It had a nifty fight with Deadpool where Logan was maneuvered into having a piano being dropped on him in the middle of the fight outside to Deadpool's complete amusement. I'm sure there was a lot of interesting things actually, it's just a bit hard to collect them all. I think there's at least 30-50 of them.
I miss blade( the vampire) how's he doing?
He's now lord of the vampires
of course he is
+jeremy kampman wait what?
+jeremy kampman when did this happen? Im so far behind
the comic series needs to come back soon
So the Sabertooth and Wolverine being brothers thing from the movie is fake?
Yea, its not in the comics.
+Luigi Esparas It's not fake, it is a different timeline, where they are brothers. It is called Earth-10005. I know, comics :D
David Melhart Oh, thanks.
wolverine and sabertooth are half brothers
Wolverine and dog are half brothers
Seriously, do Galactus, please!
Kind of a badass origin sad but badass
Already knew the backstory only came to like and support the most badass n my favorite hero ever you guys are wicked keep making +comicstorian
here i was saying another wolverine thing...now i am in awe.....so damn good..love this channel
Prolly one of my favorite comic book characters hands down
Lmao it's crazy how it'd take forever to also cover the fact that Dog and James were brothers since Papa Logan is his real dad
Its also heavily implied in this book, as well. Never all out stated, tho
+D'Andre Palmer Sabertooth and Wolvie have no relation, they met during the Weapon X project. besides, Sabertooths name is Victor Creed. not Dog Logan, or " " Logan. when i first read this story, i actually thought that Dog was
Victor... but it turns out they are not. just similar mutantion. like
Wolfsbane, Sasquatch Beast... its just a beast like mutation... HOWEVER,
the Watcher once told a story about how Wolverine was found in the
woods as a baby (abandoned by his clan) and was adopted to replace the
Howletts now deceased son James hence his name. Watcher went on to say,
that Wolverine was a decendant of a clan of almost wolf like humons
(original humans) that worshiped the moon... and Sabertooth was from a
clan that worshiped the sun. both deriving from clans that went all the
way back to the original humans that escaped the Celestial
experimentation which in turn introduced mutation/powers/death/illness.
because these "OH's" had wolvies healing factor, and thus did not know
illness nor death. but only a handful escaped the Celestials.
+The Titan List he didn't say that Dog was Sabertooth
Do black Adam next
You said at one point you might do manga hopefully that day comes soon I will give a suggestion for a really good manga how about berserk it's a monthly issue and it's freaking awsome anyways nice vid man love your channel it's freaking awesome
This is one of the saddest childhoods though some people like kurt wagner would have it worse logan still has a pretty messed up past
One of those characters that is better without an origin.
Roy Harrigan fuck you. It was great
Roy Harrigan what?
he always had blood and sadness to his story
Logan will always be my Favorite character in all X Men !
Great upload more Logan please
i Read it years ago,several times actualy,one of the best stories in marvel universe ever.
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+Comicstorian How can you see him when he is a ghost?
Dun dun dun.
+Ghost MEDIOCRE!
+Ghost you forgot Senpai
I just bought and read this today and I regret not buying more. This was an insanely good read. (i normally only read manga and light novels so maybe my standards are a bit low when it comes to comics )
I'm comic book fan I love your videos
I love how the old man threatened them by getting shot, like yeah good luck shooting wolverine and killing him with your 1800s one shot musket
Unless the comic was cut off (which is unlikely) that wound would not have killed her, maybe tear some muscles, but not lethal
Bruh, that's wolverine's claws and strenght we talking about, not to mention that shit happened around 1910~ish so the medicine was shitty asf
Wow Wolverine's Grandpa Disowned him then realized he made a Huge Mistake.
Such a two-sided power. To be able to forget all trauma
The first 5 minutes where just.............. WTF.
Rip Benny
I dont get it,when the traumas,so the bad memorys,heal over and he forgets them,how does it come he remembers all the other loved ones he put into the grave?
That background picture of wolverine is the best art of him ever rip Artist Michael turner
Oh my God i forgot about the wolf thing! Idk why but it cracks me up
Sometimes i wish my mind could heal like that lol.
Sad you didnt mention that they called him wolverine cause he was really hardworking in the mines. i mean, it has no bog significance in the story but still haha LOVE YOUR WORK
About to walk in and stop him but "ACCIDENTLY" walks into his claws. Oh gee I would've never seen them while walking up towards them.
I remember this one. His grandfather was about to pop his paws too.
This story is bad ass
Dang poor puppy
good video to come back to
i love your videos
That’s dark...
the most badass character in all comics
Poor Logan, I feel sad that he lost his childhood bestie, Rose.
Also his good step father John Howlett Sr.
Can you do black Adam next
for you people ou there who want more, heres everything:
this: 1800s
he fights in every american war after this
1970s/1980s: weapon x
from there on, all the comic book storylines start
dam that was so sad
Wooh! It's my birthday today!
Rose look like Jane Gray
I honestly love you
Never thought he had a fragile memory to start of with. I thought that just happened when he got his steel claws.
I aspire to create someone as fascinating as Wolverine.
Such a traumatic event
Awesome
He has only sad story's
I feel so bad for Logan he lives in a life so many sadness
i realy love you videos your are the best !!!!
Nice. But why did you skip over Thomas telling him he was his father, Dog tracking him down, and where he got 'Bub' from?
For a Canadian, it sure sounds like an American back story.
Could you discuss Morph next?
Video has an audio issue, please check on it... nevermind hehe
Way better than _X-Men Origins_ in my opinion.
I've always known Logan was the Bear Grylls of comic books.
The direction I thought they were going to go with Wolverine's origin story (and now wish they had gone):
(Sorry about the length)
They seemed to have set it up to make most readers believe (only to switch it up on us at the end) that Dog was going to be the half brother or the unacknowledged full older brother of James, and that Dog would eventually become the character known to us as Sabertooth.
The way that they drew the grandfather ('John Howlett the 1st') also seemed to be intentional, and implied that he too was related to Thomas Logan (and his sons Dog and James, and John Howlett the 3rd - the other, now deceased, older half or full blooded brother of James).
John Howlett the 2nd (Jame's step father, who he was raised to believe was his actual father) seems to have been written to fill the role of the milquetoast 'nice guy' cucklord type in this origin story.
John's wife, Elizabeth Howlett (nee Hudson), not only birthed John Howlett the 3rd (the other son who scarred her back up before he died/ was killed) with another man (it's implied that Thomas was the father that time, as well, but I think they should have made it that it was the grandfather's child and that the grandfather killed him after he unintentionally let the family's mutant secret out when he bone clawed his mom after finding out his father wasn't who he thought he was), she then goes on to bear James with Thomas Logan, and possibly even Dog before that (between John Howlett the 3rd and James).
I remember reading the origin mini series thinking that they were going to eventually reveal Thomas Logan to be the biological son of the grandfather (John Howlett the 1st, who the artist drew to look just like him with the stereotypical 'Wolverine'-like facial features, etc). I remember thinking that they were going to disclose that the grandfather was a carrier of the same mutant genome as Wolverine and Sabertooth (assuming they were going to show that Dog was in fact Sabertooth), and that Thomas Logan was also a carrier but just a weak carrier (or that he had not had his potential mutant abilities fully triggered to express themselves, yet).
I assumed we'd get a back story showing that 'John Howlett the 1st' (the grandfather) had stolen the Howlett name and taken over the estate and the copper mining business of some rich man named John Howlett - a man that he'd murdered decades ago in order to get to where he is now.
I thought that they were going to write it so that the grandfather was fearful of keeping his biological son, Thomas (who carried his father's actual last name, Logan), directly tied to the (newly stolen) Howlett family name and riches because Thomas knew the truth about how his father got to where he is. Besides that, the grandfather believed that his son Thomas wasn't a worthy successor, feeling that he was too mentally weak and too much of a loose canon to be trusted with the full responsibilities of maintaining the family business and running the estate's affairs, but still letting him stay on the property as the groundskeeper.
This was where I figured John Howlett the 2nd's character would come into play.
I wanted the story to go that John Howlett the 2nd (Wolverine's step dad) was actually the 'adopted' (stolen) son of John Howlett the 1st (who is really grandfather Logan), and that John Howlett the 2nd was actually the biological son of the real John Howlett the 1st - the man that grandfather Logan had murdered when John Howlett the 2nd was just a tiny infant.
Grandfather Logan, already seeing signs of his own wild/ primal aggressive mutant genetic traits start to come out in his actual son, Thomas, needed an heir (or heirs) he could depend on to carry on his stolen family name/ business, and so raised John Howlett the 2nd as his own and manipulated him into becoming the dependable yet pussified cucklord type of a man he'd eventually prove to be.
It was said that there was another Howlett son that had died after the estate mansion was built, so they could have made it so that Howlett was another biological son of the real John Howlett the 1st who was raised by grandfather Logan as his first heir (and who was also very young when his parents were killed, and was unable to remember anything about them).
I wanted the story to show that Thomas Logan was aware of all of these facts about his father because he'd witnessed all of this transpire when he was a young child (he saw his father bone claw murder/ decapitate the actual John Howlett the 1st and his wife and other Howlett family members who might have gotten in the way of his plans). This would give Thomas all the reason in the world to feel hatred towards John Howlett the 2nd (who, sadly, wouldn't have had the slightest clue as to why he was being hated on so much while they grew up together in a Cain Marko/ Charles Xavier sort of way, assuming Thomas kept his mouth shut about what his Dad actually did to John's real father).
This would have set the story up in a way that Wolverine's early life would be an almost perfect mirroring of his step-father, John's, tragic upbringing, the only difference in this case would be that Dog (Sabertooth) would be James' actual biological half brother (if Dog had a different mother) or full blooded (if Dog's mom was also Elizabeth) brother instead of the unacknowledged adopted (step?) brother that John the 2nd was/ is to Thomas.
They could have written it so that Thomas Logan keeps his mouth shut out of continued fear of his father's threats to him about ever telling anyone the truth about who they are/ where they came from, and never actually tells his son, Dog, that Dog is the grandson of 'John Howlett the 1st' (aka grandfather Logan), but he does encourage Dog to bully and hate on James (Wolverine) as much as he can in the same way he used to bully John the 2nd while they were growing up (James now filling the same role for Dog that John Howlett the 2nd did for Thomas when they were growing up).
The implicit take away reason for Wolverine turning out to be a 'good guy'/ hero (as opposed to the ruthless animalistic killer that he was genetically predisposed to become, just like his grandfather, father and brother, Sabertooth), would be based on the nurturing differences he experienced growing up, having a loving/ caring (c̶u̶c̶k̶ step) father in John Howlett the 2nd.
Even if they didn't go in this direction, exactly, they still could have made the origin story 10x better than what they did with a few minor tweaks here and there. They completely dropped the ball on that whole aspect of Wolverine's origin story. I just hope they retcon it again some day to make it at least somewhat interesting (for example; make it so Thomas didn't actually die due to his mutant healing factor and that the grandfather still wants to find Wolverine to kill him like he killed his other grandson for revealing the mutant side of their family to the world) and much more suited to the character that Wolverine is supposed to be.
Logan or James past was sad and harsh he forgets his memories then the people from his past come back attacking him and he has to live with that
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This could have been a great cbs soap opera.