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Elite Units from other factions are something that could be also to see and fight against the Emperor Ten Thousand, but the Norm Emissaries are by far something that not even they could kill so easily.
Norm emissaries is just plain stupid, if a bunch of custodian can be slain by a single one of these, what stopped the tyranid from making more of these? Peak of mankind my ass, a single bug wiped a squad of them. What hope mortals have to take down this thing if it can easily chew on custodians?
Always remember, there is a HUGE difference between lore and tabletop. For example, on the table, a squad of Guard without special weapons has an expected chance of killing a Marine in rapid fire range every time, while in lore (and the Fantasy Flight RPG) Marines are virtually untouchable. The same is true of many of these, especially any kind of Necron.
The thing with Orks is any Ork who has fought enough, survived enough battles and lived long enough is a nightmare to face - it'll laugh off injuries any other creature would die from immediately, it will ignore pain that would render most creatures immobile, and is stronger and faster than a baseline Ork by implausible standards... and it's still a stock Ork. They're born with that potential without any surgeon or scientist lifting a finger, and just living their life can get them there. Now that's scarier than any of the others put together... based on how many Orks there are in the galaxy, there's potentially millions of exceptional specimens out there, that just got out of bed that way that morning and never did a scrap of training beyond throwing that first punch after birth. Yeah, the Old Ones knew how to make elite soldiers better than anyone. That's an act no-one can follow.
Great video, Need Lord!! I like that you didn't shoot off just a list and leave it at that, plus recognizing that not everyone has an equivalent. It all added up to a well thought out episode.🍻
Fascinating stuff. I like these popular concepts (custodes) as a means to explore more niche equivalents. A good model to expose many little known lore troves. Love it!
Do you think the imperium of man is capable of making an warrior as powerful as a custodian without using the specific methods made by the emperor to create custodians?
I know there are some "false" space marines running around out there that were usually too old to undergo the full transformation process so they essentially got as many other augments and implants to upgrade their bodies as much as possible and get close to being a full space marine. Can't remember specific names but I know there have been dudes that you basically couldn't tell the they weren't a full fledged Space Marine as far as their fighting prowess. With all this said, I'd be willing to bet given enough time and leeway within the rules that someone like Belesarius Cawl or Fabias Bile could potentially upgrade a human to some pretty incredible heights. Now, whether they would be Custodes level, I'm not so sure. But probably could exceed an Astartes, at least.
Yes, but it required an assload of resources, sacrifices, and forbidden means and predictably it went horribly wrong and the only example of the planned warrior went rogue because if it worked out as planned, then it would make the Imperium too powerful within a relatively short timeframe. I'm referring to the Maeorus Assassin project and it's sole prototype, Legionstrasse. That thing would definitely be on a Custode level, being able to biologically shapeshift weapons at will and even self-replicating via turning biomass into eggs that turn into more of itself. On a less-extreme note, it's highly likely that the Admech would be able of making mechanized battle servitors that would be able to both dish out and take more damage than the average Custodes, and do so with far less time and resources invested into each unit, but they would lack the experience and edge that the Custodes bring.
There was some crazy hybrid assasin that cosplay prototype game growing weapons like mutilator (but without warp). Also high ranking magos can have more dakka, speed and armor. Also you can include chaos undivided demon princes who crafted themselves without much help from gods.
To be fair, there isn't really a 1-to-1 equivalent to the Custodes within the Tau, as the Ethereal honor guard are the closest functionally, but are mostly just ceremonial, with the real force of their protection being the assload of technological defenses that the Ethereal would be under at all times. The Tau by nature wouldn't try to make units like the Custodians, they would instead see a problem that the Imperium would send the Custodes to beat, and either overwhelm it with drones and long range heavy firepower, or try to develop a tech/scientific solution to the threat, like how the Farsight Enclaves once developed that bioweapon that destroyed a Hive fleet tendril from the inside out after the scientists that injected themselves with it were eaten by the Nids. Sure, it probably would only work that one time, but if such a situation like that happened again, the Tau would be doing some science in the background to try and solve it.
After watching the video, this is my 2 cents on it. A lot of these are more or less right, with Incubi and Harlequins being the best functional Eldar equivalents to Custodes, and Ork meganobs sibce citing the more powerful evived forms of Ork wouldn't have them be super-elite units, simply an equivalent standard unit roster but for a much higher standard. Daemon princes and maybe Greater Daemons work as a Chaos equivalent in that they are their absolute most powerful non-unique units too. However, the Tau and Necron examples I have some critiques on. Firstly, for the Necrons, Triarch Praetorians functionally work less like the Custodes within Necron society abd much kore like their version of the Inquisition, in that thry have an unprecdented level of power and influence within Necron society and most Necron subfactions and leaders don't cross them due to fear and respect. They also enforce the laws of Necron society and go agter anyone deemed as breaking protocol bad enough, much like how Inquisitors enforce Imperial law and root out heresy, being able to take command of other forces to achieve those ends. The Praetorians also are a much larger organization within Necron society than the Custodes are in Imperial society, but still not being common, similar to the Inquisition. A mich better functuonal analogue to the Custodes to the Necrons would be their elite Royal Wardens, the heads of a Dynasty's lychguard and there to personally protect and carry out the orders of the ruling Necron lord/overlord/Phaeron. An example of such a Warden would be Varguard Obyron, and I know that in Infinite & the Divine, Trazyn has his own royal warden that leads his expeditionary forces. As for the Tau, they don't really have a functional equivalent to the Custodes, because frabkly that's not really how the Tau work. The Fireblades are more akin to Astartes veterans, and the actuak roual guards if the Ethereals are almost purely ceremonial, with the real protection they have being all the technology and firepower of the conventional Tau military. The modt powerful warriors of the Tau are either unique hero units like Shadowsun, Farsight & Shas'O'kais, or extreme performance specialist technological units that work within the conventional military apparatus (Ghostkeels, Ta'unars, Stormsurges, etc). Simply put, the Tau do not operate in a way that would be conducive to having a Custodes equivalent, instead operating much more like a tyoical sci-fi human military way, where they would use their conventional forces, range advantage and automation to hild the enemy at bay while developing a technological solution to any particularly pressung problem that they would later try to make more standardizeed specialized sypport units to incorporate into their forces to bettee prepare them for similar threats in the field. It's very much an "Indiana Jones shooting the swordsman" mindset.
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Elite Units from other factions are something that could be also to see and fight against the Emperor Ten Thousand, but the Norm Emissaries are by far something that not even they could kill so easily.
Norm emissaries is just plain stupid, if a bunch of custodian can be slain by a single one of these, what stopped the tyranid from making more of these? Peak of mankind my ass, a single bug wiped a squad of them. What hope mortals have to take down this thing if it can easily chew on custodians?
@@npc2.010 I actually believe this shows what Tyranids can be, I love stepping up the game, forcing humanity to adapt even more
@@npc2.010Well the same reason why the hivemind can't just spam hive tyrants to swarm the battlefield and slaughter everything in its way.
I call this grimderp
Norn*
Talking with a Solitaire is usually fine, *touching* one is what dooms your soul.
Still, they are so cool!
@@TheLostPrimarch The coolest Aeldari unit, by far.
Always remember, there is a HUGE difference between lore and tabletop. For example, on the table, a squad of Guard without special weapons has an expected chance of killing a Marine in rapid fire range every time, while in lore (and the Fantasy Flight RPG) Marines are virtually untouchable. The same is true of many of these, especially any kind of Necron.
Nah I’d win - souped up ogryns
Merry Christmas lost Primarch .
Merry Christmas Guilliman!
The thing with Orks is any Ork who has fought enough, survived enough battles and lived long enough is a nightmare to face - it'll laugh off injuries any other creature would die from immediately, it will ignore pain that would render most creatures immobile, and is stronger and faster than a baseline Ork by implausible standards... and it's still a stock Ork. They're born with that potential without any surgeon or scientist lifting a finger, and just living their life can get them there. Now that's scarier than any of the others put together... based on how many Orks there are in the galaxy, there's potentially millions of exceptional specimens out there, that just got out of bed that way that morning and never did a scrap of training beyond throwing that first punch after birth.
Yeah, the Old Ones knew how to make elite soldiers better than anyone. That's an act no-one can follow.
Wonder how Tuska Daemon-Killa is doing these days, after roughly a century(-ish?) of fighting Khorne’s generals 🤔
Solitaires do not kill Custodes with ease lol
Ofc they don't lol,he literally said that though powerscaling gonna be derp
Mega Nobz: because nothing says 'elite warriors' like a fridge with legs and an orky attitude problem. Slow and steady wins… eventually.
Wished the Votaan had one such elite unit.
Maybe GW will release a unique Kin to make us squats proud.
Merry Xmas, Nerd!
We need the rest of our army!!!!!!
Great video, Need Lord!! I like that you didn't shoot off just a list and leave it at that, plus recognizing that not everyone has an equivalent. It all added up to a well thought out episode.🍻
Fascinating stuff. I like these popular concepts (custodes) as a means to explore more niche equivalents. A good model to expose many little known lore troves. Love it!
Merry Christmas and Happy New Year and keep up the great work brother❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥🔥🤘🤘🤘💪💪💪👍👍👍😎😎 1:26
Merry Christmas brother!
@TheLostPrimarch So after you survived HellsReach!!..what made you want to start a Warhammer 40K lore channel? LoL Merry Christmas Brother 😎😎😎😎
Nice video, Merry Christmas. No mention of craftworld eldar?
In the macabre greyness of the start of the year 2025, there is... only....lore...
Great video!
Do you think the imperium of man is capable of making an warrior as powerful as a custodian without using the specific methods made by the emperor to create custodians?
I Think Everything is Possible between two ends of a pole.
I know there are some "false" space marines running around out there that were usually too old to undergo the full transformation process so they essentially got as many other augments and implants to upgrade their bodies as much as possible and get close to being a full space marine. Can't remember specific names but I know there have been dudes that you basically couldn't tell the they weren't a full fledged Space Marine as far as their fighting prowess. With all this said, I'd be willing to bet given enough time and leeway within the rules that someone like Belesarius Cawl or Fabias Bile could potentially upgrade a human to some pretty incredible heights. Now, whether they would be Custodes level, I'm not so sure. But probably could exceed an Astartes, at least.
Yes, but it required an assload of resources, sacrifices, and forbidden means and predictably it went horribly wrong and the only example of the planned warrior went rogue because if it worked out as planned, then it would make the Imperium too powerful within a relatively short timeframe.
I'm referring to the Maeorus Assassin project and it's sole prototype, Legionstrasse. That thing would definitely be on a Custode level, being able to biologically shapeshift weapons at will and even self-replicating via turning biomass into eggs that turn into more of itself.
On a less-extreme note, it's highly likely that the Admech would be able of making mechanized battle servitors that would be able to both dish out and take more damage than the average Custodes, and do so with far less time and resources invested into each unit, but they would lack the experience and edge that the Custodes bring.
@@fadelsukoco3092 Nice! Incremental implementation seems like an effective means of connecting those dots. Alloys are pretty neat ;)
There was some crazy hybrid assasin that cosplay prototype game growing weapons like mutilator (but without warp).
Also high ranking magos can have more dakka, speed and armor.
Also you can include chaos undivided demon princes who crafted themselves without much help from gods.
"Run faster than the angry giant fridge." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hello NERRD lol every time
HELLO, NERD!
@@TheLostPrimarchI enjoy that you say Nerd instead of Nerds. Makes it more personal 😂
Dude just compared a tau comisar to a custodes😂😂😂 thats cute
To be fair, there isn't really a 1-to-1 equivalent to the Custodes within the Tau, as the Ethereal honor guard are the closest functionally, but are mostly just ceremonial, with the real force of their protection being the assload of technological defenses that the Ethereal would be under at all times. The Tau by nature wouldn't try to make units like the Custodians, they would instead see a problem that the Imperium would send the Custodes to beat, and either overwhelm it with drones and long range heavy firepower, or try to develop a tech/scientific solution to the threat, like how the Farsight Enclaves once developed that bioweapon that destroyed a Hive fleet tendril from the inside out after the scientists that injected themselves with it were eaten by the Nids. Sure, it probably would only work that one time, but if such a situation like that happened again, the Tau would be doing some science in the background to try and solve it.
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After watching the video, this is my 2 cents on it.
A lot of these are more or less right, with Incubi and Harlequins being the best functional Eldar equivalents to Custodes, and Ork meganobs sibce citing the more powerful evived forms of Ork wouldn't have them be super-elite units, simply an equivalent standard unit roster but for a much higher standard. Daemon princes and maybe Greater Daemons work as a Chaos equivalent in that they are their absolute most powerful non-unique units too.
However, the Tau and Necron examples I have some critiques on.
Firstly, for the Necrons, Triarch Praetorians functionally work less like the Custodes within Necron society abd much kore like their version of the Inquisition, in that thry have an unprecdented level of power and influence within Necron society and most Necron subfactions and leaders don't cross them due to fear and respect. They also enforce the laws of Necron society and go agter anyone deemed as breaking protocol bad enough, much like how Inquisitors enforce Imperial law and root out heresy, being able to take command of other forces to achieve those ends. The Praetorians also are a much larger organization within Necron society than the Custodes are in Imperial society, but still not being common, similar to the Inquisition.
A mich better functuonal analogue to the Custodes to the Necrons would be their elite Royal Wardens, the heads of a Dynasty's lychguard and there to personally protect and carry out the orders of the ruling Necron lord/overlord/Phaeron. An example of such a Warden would be Varguard Obyron, and I know that in Infinite & the Divine, Trazyn has his own royal warden that leads his expeditionary forces.
As for the Tau, they don't really have a functional equivalent to the Custodes, because frabkly that's not really how the Tau work. The Fireblades are more akin to Astartes veterans, and the actuak roual guards if the Ethereals are almost purely ceremonial, with the real protection they have being all the technology and firepower of the conventional Tau military.
The modt powerful warriors of the Tau are either unique hero units like Shadowsun, Farsight & Shas'O'kais, or extreme performance specialist technological units that work within the conventional military apparatus (Ghostkeels, Ta'unars, Stormsurges, etc). Simply put, the Tau do not operate in a way that would be conducive to having a Custodes equivalent, instead operating much more like a tyoical sci-fi human military way, where they would use their conventional forces, range advantage and automation to hild the enemy at bay while developing a technological solution to any particularly pressung problem that they would later try to make more standardizeed specialized sypport units to incorporate into their forces to bettee prepare them for similar threats in the field. It's very much an "Indiana Jones shooting the swordsman" mindset.
Triarch Praetorian
Who's the one from Tyranids? couldn't hear well
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Do the Votann have something like this?
Not that we've seen from their range, which so far is like half a dozen non-character units total.
Well.....as an offshoot of Humans(that still have STC's even) one might argue that Yes, the Kin do. 🤔
Happy xmiss pimp have an awesome day 🎉🎉
nids!
Best xenos
We need a game like "Tyranny" for the harlequins it would fit perfectly imo
OK, now I'm certain Necron are egyptian. Their king killed gods and they call that a failure??????
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