I know everyone seems to hate Boruto but tbh.... I actually love it lol. I love anything and everything affiliated with Naruto so Boruto is entertaining and I definitely think Naruto is wayyyyy better but I enjoy the characters personalities and the villains. Just my opinion 🤷
Yes, try it with yours and I'm sure you lose as well. Strongest eye does not mean physically and that it made of steel 😂. The eyeball is still a delicate organ, even if it has powers. Cope.
The eye just like the rest of the shinobi body is difficult to damage. Borruto uses a metal hard shard object designed to penetrate flesh. And boruto at that moment had enhanced strenght and had momentum. Yet the blade didn't go all the way in
Just remember that Nagato was an Uzumaki. It was one if the factors for why he was chosen to wield it. Him tiring from chakra consumption was less likely.
he kinda mentined that but not as specific, he mentioned that nagato coming form a senju bloodline is a main factor as too why he was choosen, and as we know uzamakis are a branch related to senjus
I mean the way Nagato mastered and used it as if it were his own showed that this was the right choice. Obito stated he could barely handle one, left alone use it. Nagato practicly spammed the abilities, filled 6 adult bodies with chakra he puppeteered. Fought the strongest village safe team Gai. Blew up all of Konoha in one masive ability. Then faced Sage Naruto to capture alive not kill, while Naruto had all the intel, all the frogs with expirience fighting Pain, intent to kill and unseen abilities Nagato had to figure out on the fly without Tendo aviable. Fought his way till he managed to get Tendo ready and instantly turned the tides spamming more high chakra jutsu. Then pinns Naruto, fights Hinata, then six tails up to 8. Almost seals it in an even more chakra consuming chibaku, then fights Naruto again..and in the end had enough chakra to revive all of Konoha. Meawhile people like Sasuke can maybe dish out two shinra tensei or deam it to chakra consuming, an Obito had his paths run on their Bijuu chakra because he lacked such a large pool. And only Madara showed that he could use his Rinnegan arsenal more frequent, but even he did not utelize it to the level Nagato could. Uzumaki wich are a Senju brach defenately have insane chakra levels. Kushina for example straight up survived a Bijuu ripped out and fought post giving birth and that. Wich in itself is an insane feat of endurance, chakra and just life force. Something even Naruto does not have fully. As we see in the war even he had to be healed by Sakura.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm That's also why Naruto can have hundreds and thousands of clones with the forbidden technique. Most of the strongest ninjas use 2 to 5 clones, top.
Thank you. A lot of ppl don’t under this part which was explicitly stated multiple times. Sasuke cannot use the paths of pain because he simply doesn’t have the chakra reserves for it to be practical
Madara wasn't able to turn it off , he has to transform it to sharingan first And hagraromo is never seen without it so most likely the renigan can't be turned off
@RealLifeIronMan well saskue awakened the renigan in a different way than madara as in saskue case hagraromo was personally involved in helping him awaken it And it seems that saskue ems merged with his renigan as he can use his ems powers with his renigan while madara needed to transform his renigan to ems to cast occuler genjutsu
But why can Madara transform his rinnegan to sharingan when Sasuke can't? They are actually quite similar. They both attained EMS by transplanting their brothers MS. They both transformed their EMS into rinnegan by attaining Hagaromo chakra; Madara by combining Asura and Indra chakra and Sasuke by recieving direct Hagaromo chakra. The only difference is Sasuke only has one rinnegan and it has tomoe.
@@MuhammadAlkomyeveryone forgets that sasuke took hashiramas chakra before he got stabbed by madara. Because he mixed Indra and asuras chakras together, he awakened the rinnegan. The only thing hogoromo gave him was the moon seal so he could seal madara
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 it took him a long time to correctly implement hashiramas dna into his body. By the time of shippuden, people figured out how to add hashiramas cells into their body on the fly.
Sasuke first covered his eye right after using amaterasu on Naruto, experiencing his eye strain moment, keeping it closed when he pierced the naruto clone with chidori, naruto fell with his rasengan, Sasuke pummeled him and THEN they started punching each other into a pulp.
Sasuke also acquired Hashirama's cells through Kabuto, while he healed the stab in his heart. Just like Naruto acquired a pseudo ten tails mode by reseiving and fusing the chakra from all the bijuu inside of him. When Hagoromo said a lot of specific conditions had been met in order to allow their encounter he really meant it.
Yes, people are really missing a lot about how Naruto and Sasuke got their powers. Sure, Hagoromo met them, but only after Sasuke was being revived with Hashirama cells by Kabuto (so now Sasuke got access to Indra and Ashura chakra) and Naruto was being revived by Obito.
@@wolfofwarframe3807 it is not because "Obito was reviving him" Naruto was not dead. What Obito did was steal a portion of the 1 tail and 8 tails from Madara, and then gave it to Naruto as well as the other half of Kurama. Then Gyuki says "That Obito knew which tailed beast chakra you lacked" or something like that, if Obito wanted to save Naruto he just needed Kurama, so he did the extra to gave Naruto what he lacked in order to obtain SPSM to fight Madara, because previously all the other bijuu gave their chakra to Naruto, except for the 1 tail and 8 tails because Shukaku didn't meet Naruto and Gyuki was inside of Bee. The reason why Naruto could see Hagoromo was because he was almost dead just like Sasuke, and because he obtained a portion of every bijuu, a pseudo 10 tails chakra mix, and Sasuke got Hashirama cells from Kabuto. In theory Naruto should get six path sage mode having the chakra of all the tailed beast, just like Obito and Madara got SPSM being the 10 tails jinchuriki, and Sasuke should awaken the rinnegan mixing Ashura and Indra's chakra, both without Hagoromo's intervention even if it's delayed, so for me he gave them a push make it instantly, and the seals for the six paths-chibaku tensei.
@@gonzalopanizza Yes, my bad, I didnt remember what Obito gave him, but I knew it would count as something that would give Naruto the option to level up, so its probably the chakra of remaining beasts.
Sasuke didn't receive Hashirama cells from Kabuto. Kabuto just healed him. He received chakra directly from Hashirama. In the conversation they had right before Sasuke went to attack Madara alone, Hashirama said he would give Sasuke all his remaining chakra.
To this day we still don't know exactly how madara "implanted" the rinnegan onto nagato without him knowing. Did he sneak into nagato's room when he was asleep???
Obito's mangekeyo ability might very well be directly correlated with the fact that his eyes were physically apart whilst awakening the mangekeyo, therefore they needed to form a bridge through the space-time continuum, hence the ability to manipulate said space-time.
Correction: @ 16:18 I am almost positive Sasuke is not consciously closing his left eye. I am almost positive his left eye is shut from being beat up and swollen, similar to Naruto's eye in this fight.
@@DygoKnight after sniping Naruto with Amaterasu which he countered with chakra cloak, Sasuke had his typical eye strain moment and never opened it again until the Bijuu were freed.
This is not an argument anyway. kakashi could also close his eyelid, it's just the dojutsu beneeth they can't shut off and that keeps eating away at their chakra reserves. That's why this is such a silly point in genera. How do you think Kakashi or Sasuke sleep all the time. xD
I think it’s as simple as he didn’t unlock it. He only has access to it. Like a video game skill tree. He gained access to rinnegsn abilities but he doesn’t control it because he didn’t put the skill point into the tree in the first place. Kakashi and Obito both met the requirement to unlock the sharingan
This would make much more sense with Kakashi since he has no Uchiha or senju blood in him and was given a sharingan. It was never in his blood, what you say applies to kakashi more than sasuke
@@lordkars3971 That's not a factor. Obito an Uchiha could also barely handle one base Rinnegan. And Nagato a Uzumaki with extremely high chakra and life force use his better then booth Madara or Sasuke. It shows us that even if the eye/eyes are not awakened by you if you have the chakra you can still fully use it. Nagato proved that. Also Sasukes eye is not a base Rinnegan but a special 6 Tomoe Rinnegan wich can operate on diffrent rules. Such as giving him his special swap ability ontop, while still not being "his" per say. As we see Hago force awaken it, and not the natural evolution such as Madara. Who could in fact activate and deactivate his Rinnegan. Swap to Sharingan etc.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cmnagato did not use the rinnegan better than either madara or Sasuke, nagato needed to divide the paths up into 6 different bodies so the strain was lessened, Sasuke and madara showed use of at least 2 different paths while fighting, and madara even had limbo
He also has the tomoe because it allows him to still use his mangekyo abilities of that eye, those abilities being flame control of Amaterasu. Amaterasu comes from his right eye and flame control from his left
you dont lose mangekyo abilites just because the eye progressed to a rinnegan. just like you dont lose the ability to use the mangekyo abilites even if you lose the eye.
I always thought it was strange that Madara seemingly "Had" to switch between the two just to use an MS Genjutsu on the Raikage. I get that Kishimoto wanted us to know it was an MS level Genjutsu, but him switching between them while he was an Edo and never when he was alive, made it all strange to me.
@@DiamonDust no, he never used anything related to his MS other than Susanoo when he was Alive, but it was still a weird thing to see him swap between them like that.
@@bchavez149 I think it actually helps to avoid a potential plot hole, which is “why can’t Nagato use sharingan abilities?”. The implication is that only Uchiha can toggle between Sharingan and Rinnegan. Also, it just looks visually interesting to see the switch and it let the Rinnegan appear as a plot twist rather than immediately. It also showed that it was an MS ability like you said.
@@DiamonDust I don't think it really mattered or would have created a plothole at all, the real world reason it was shown that way was so Kishimoto could relay to us that it was "Specifically" an MS genjutsu and not some ability of the Rinegan. But there could have been tens of reason made up to show why Nagato couldn't use Madaras other abilities from the eyes, Madara never switched them back and forth when he came back to life and never had the Rinegan long enough to do it before he gave the eyes to Nagato. It's odd seeing it because we never see it before or again after since he's the only one to have Sharingan that became Rinegan without involvement from Hagoromo. TBH, it looked like something he could only do because he was an Edo in the first place, since it's not like he ever used the Rinegan in combat prior.
i think youre forgetting madara in edo tensei technically just did not have a real eye. when he was revived, he was fully blind until getting his rinnegan back from white zetsu. i think its just a plain and simple reason for why sasuke isnt able to turn it off, that being you cant turn the rinnegan on and off.
Something important to point out - That red circle on Hagoromo's forehead is not some rinne-sharingan. I mean just look at them clearly, they appear flat, as if they are some kind red circle pattern similar to the one at his backside. Perhaps a crest or symbol or something.
14:48 Nagato used to always keep a city wide sensory jutsu active so I dont think he'd feel a comparatively small drain like keeping his Rinnegan active even if he could turn it off
Before i say this, know sasuke is my MOST favourite in naruto. Comparing sasuke with lelouch is like comparing L with kirito of sao( in terms of being cool and likeable)
If i recall correctly, tobiramas explanation about uchihas brain chakra thing was about the awakening of a regular sharingan. Maybe that special chakra is not necessary for a magenkyo? And kakashi not being able to turn off his eye is probably because he dosent have the same eye nerves a uchiha have
And for Sasuke it may be because Hagoromos chakra is beyond Indra and Ashura. As he is the direct son of Kaguya, hence he has more and more potent chakra. Could be his infrerior Indra physique can also ot properly handly Hagoromos chakra.
This is what i think too. Sasuke was near death and Kabuto is pumping him full of Hashirama Chakra to heal him. Naruto gets some chakra from all the tailed beasts making him a mini ten tails. The sage of six paths in his Ethereal state only gave the Sun and Moon hand markings to seal Kaguya the rest were the power ups being given to them while they were being revived
I think the rinesharingan of saske is more a fuse of is ems and the rinegan, so he doesnt have to switch it like madara, and also cause it looks way cooler then switching the eye.
the rinne sharingan is completely different dojutsu. Sasuke's eye is just a rinnegan. But fans dub it the Sharin-rinnegan. It is not a rinne sharingan.
@@DBL6Domino Nah it's defenately not just a Rinnegan since it doeos allow him to use booth. Not the Rinnesharingan of Kaguya or Madara either. Some unique 6 Tomoe Sharingan fusion forced by Hagoromo. Thus unable to be shut off ue to a unatural evolution.
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm There's no natural rinnegan user that could shut it off. Edo-Madara's was unnatural and was able to shut it off but those eyes were due to w.e Kabuto did. And I'm only talking naming convention. Sasuke's rinnegan is named simply rinnegan. Fans dubbed it the sharin-rinnegan but officially it's just a rinnegan.
To me, Sasuke Rinnegan was a true Rinnegan, just like Hagoromo, and a permanent mutation. Madara's wasn't fake or anything like that, but definitely was the weakest out of the three and the one that didn't have true Six Path Chakra.
@@papasweed.dispenseria5977 The tomoe just represent his Sharingan abilities Hagoromo's Rinnegan does not have Tomoe What Sasuke has is just a pseudo Rinne Sharingan
@@papasweed.dispenseria5977 Hagoromo & Madara's Rinnegans are the exact same Sasuke's Rinnegan has Rinnegan abilities + Sharingan abilities I am saying there is no such thing as "True Six Paths Chakra" & "Fake Six Paths Chakra"
Btw, about Eternal Tsukuyomi. My headcanon about it is that people wouldn't ever die from starvation or old age. Because if it wasn't the case, I feel like we'd know how will Madara solve those problems
Okay, there seems to be a huge misunderstanding here! The requirements for an Uchiha to awaken the Rinnegan are: ▪︎ Have the Mangekyō Sharingan ▪︎ Receive Ashura's cells ▪︎ Be a descendant of Indra ▪︎ Undergo a near-death experience The reason Madara took so long to achieve this was because after implanting Hashirama's cells into himself, he only managed to fulfill the last requirement because he got too old and almost died. Thus, he only awakened it at the end of his life. Sasuke, like Madara, fulfilled all the requirements when he was impaled and received Hashirama’s cells from Kabuto. But the crucial difference was that Hagoromo only gave him additional chakra and the Moon Seal to use Rinne Tensei. The condensed chakra formed an anomaly, the Rinnegan with Tomoes! The Rinnegan, like the Byakugan, is permanent in the user and cannot be deactivated permanently, nor does it consume chakra. The only reason we saw Madara using it during the war was because, as Kabuto mentioned, Madara's body underwent alterations and modifications that allowed him to use it at will! That's why we don’t see him using it again after being fully revived.
A couple of notes forgotten, when fighting Killer Bee, Sasuke almost died and Jugo gave him his cells which are naturally senjutsu also the same happened with Kabuto who had special DNA from the beginning, mixed with Orochimaru, sound 5 shinobi and senjutsu as a sage.
What will happen if a clan member from uzumaki, uchiha or senju receive chakra from both reincarnations of Indra and asura. Will that person have six paths power or won't work.
Wouldn't work because they are not reincartaions themselves. The only instance of someone naturally awakening the Rinnegan was also Madara after a lifetime for it to take effect. So ultimately we can't even really say anything beyond that.
i think sasuke got the rinnegan when he got cells from kaubto kabuto and naruto got sage of six paths when obito gave his 9 tails back + some chakra of the ten tails (kabuto fused with orochimaru which gave some of the hasirama cells orochimaru had)
I don't think it was Hagoromo's Intention to even give Sasuke Rinnegan only Moon seal this happened do external factors he has nothing to do with it i mean why would he give so much power to someone he knows is going to be enemy even if he needed him to beat Madara his money was always on Naruto just like with Asura
Obito and Kakashis' eyes were linked as it was shown before Obito reached the battle field, it only appeared that Kakashi was the one awakening the sharingan because he offed Rin, but at that time when it happened Obito appeared at the right moment and awakened both sharingan
In "the last" sasuke is shown without rinnegan activated and that movie is canon, but in boruto he has the standart rinnegan out of battle and the stronger version when he is fighting. During war once madara activated his rinnegan he never turn it off. I don't really know if they can do it.
The studio that made the movie had come out and said that was a animation error as they forgot to put it in. I believe it was in a interview but it was a error
Yes, he did deactivate it in The Last, and it probably is not an animation error since this version of Sasuke also has his Rinnegan off in Retsu No Sho.
@@DanShinjo 100% Same reason Naruto could not just recreate new Truth seeking orbs since they also were just a gift from hagoromo and not an inate ability he awakened naturaly.
What if Madara was revived as an old man and then became the ten tails host? Like how would his personality be if was revived old and then got the ten tails while he was old then tried to beat Naruto and Sasuke. Would he be less arrogant or would he act the same way he was while in his prime age? Kind of a pointless thought but...
A simpler explanation would be that he just doesn't need to as the rinnegan doesn't strain when activated prime example nagato and the reason His rinnegan has 6 tomoe is because it is a fusion of the rinnegan and the sharingan
Sasuke got his rinnegan from hagoromo and not Hashirama cells. It wouldn't make sense if he got it from the cells because Hashirama was no longer Ashura's reincarnation
Nagato and obitos rinnegan aren't thier own, it was given to them by madara and you cant turn off borrowed eyes. Madara turned off and turned on his rinnegan a few times in the war arc
@@The_Demiurge no, that didn't happen, from the moment he implanted his eyes when he was revived with rinne tensei he never did that, it only happened once when he was in edo tensei, and when he was in edo tensei those weren't true rinnegans
@badgamertreek6698 In Obito and Nagato's case, I believe they weren't able to turn off the Rinnegan. The same way Kakashi couldn't turn off his Sharingan, it's not their eye. In Hagaromo's case, it's pretty simple, after his death he siphons chakra from the pure lands (Naruto Heaven), a different dimension granting him close to if not infinite chakra and thus no reason to deactive his Rinnegans. Now the hard part, Madara, there are two ways, the one I find more in character for someone like Madara, that also fits with the abilities he gained during and after Edo Tensei, is Hashirama's sage mode, through the face in Madara's chest, which like Hashirama on his wooden constructs, gains nature energy passively (as long as something, other than Madara moving his pec, doesn't disturb the stationary state of the face), which would grant Madara infinite chakra (as senjutsu chakra gained in sage mode boosts your own chakra reserves) through constantly pulling in nature energy, thus no real reason to deactivate or switch his rinnegan to his EMS. As well as a couple minutes after gaining one of his rinnegan he became the jinjuriki of the TEN Tails, the complete form of the Gedo statue (that kept Madara alive decades past what he should of lived through siphoning the chakra of the Gedo Statue), which made the problem of the rinnegan's chakra drain a non factor. Or who knows maybe I'm looking to deep into this, and once you get a rinnegan you just can't deactivate it (I'm fine with either answer). Editors note: Just wanted to add the Sasuke bit since I know someone will probably ask about it. Either through meeting Hagaromo directly and receiving his chakra, that it caused a new form of rinnegan, the Six Tomoe Rinnegan, which functions like a regular sharingan with more chakra kinda, where the tomoes are the sharingan, and the rinnegan without the tomoe are like the base eye of an Uchia (as only members of the bloodline of the user's Dojutsu can deactivate their Dojutsu). Or like earlier with Madara, you just can't deactivate a rinnegan once you've unlocked, but I think that my first idea on why Sasuke can't deactivate his rinnegan makes more sense when we look at what happens in Naruto.
How did Madara even manage to transplant his Rinnegan to Nagato without him noticing at all? There couldn't have been any Zetsu involved as the white ones were developed fully after Obito was already trapped in mountain's graveyard, and the black one first showed up in front of Madara right after obito went mad following Rin's death.
similarly, how Obito give Kakashi his Sharingan somehow transported his all eyeball into his scull except Kakashi already had an eye ruined one, but it was there so i don't know what happened to it or he somehow only took way his Sharingan from his eye and added to Kakashis original and somehow fixing it as well i assume Madara did same thing like that manifested his Rinnegan to Nagatos ayes i mean Hagoromo did not literally give Sasuke his aye ball just his chacra which manifested as a Rinnegan and a moon seal
Madara was on Gedo Mazo life support, so he could not leave the cave. He had to train and send Obito to do it before dying. Setting up that plan for being revived one day. Kamui and his insane Genjutsu wich did put a Jinchuukiri in it for years propably stunned Nagato long enough for him to transplant them, and Kamui allows him to even sneak into the Birth of Naruto, so easy to break into his house undetected. And Nagato is a non Shinobi child below 10 at that point, easy to fool into just dreaming.
@@om58499 Madara literary has eyes in the Manga Pannels thou. And it wasnt stated when Nagato got the eyes. We also have no confirmation if Madara outside of Edo coukd turn his Rinnegan off or not. Wich makes this more plausable. His entire revival plan depends on Obito. So him giving Nagato tge eyes before he even knows Obito will play along would be incredibly senseless as well.
Or maybe, just maybe, Madara is built different, since he's the only on we ever see deactivate his reningan. Even the otsutsuki's have their strange reningans in weird places, active. Also it could be that Madara's way of awakening the reningan was the outlier. Since i doubt thats the same way every other reincarnation of indra awakened theirs, although, maybe most of them didn't
Kabuto healed Sasuke with Hashirama cells, so Sasuke had already met all the rinnegan requirements before meeting Hagoromo, he would've awakened his own tomoe-less rinnegan decades later, Hagoromo had simply sped up the process by focusing it in one eye and he also merged it with the chakra flow of Sasuke's EMS, that's why Sasuke has six tomoes - his own three and Itachi's three - they are a sign of EMS. No, six tomoes weren't what allowed his ninjutsu to work on Madara, it was the moon seal. Obito got glimpses out of Kakashi's sharingan before awakening his MS, it's clear the two eyes are connected by chakra somehow when they're close to each other. That's how Kakashi's sharingan turned to MS - Kakashi doesn't have the biology to produce the required special chakra to evolve the eyes, it was Obito all along, transmitting it into his other eye. This video was a massive disappointment.
I don't think the cells would matter because it's heavily implied Ashura is no longer with Hashirama after he died, his chakra would not be on those cells, only Hashirama's own chakra. It would have to be Naruto's cells for that to work. Even if that worked though it doesn't matter when Sasuke is receiving chakra directly from Hagoromo, there's no need to mix anything.
@@LealFireball that's the retarded take that always makes me angry. Why would his chakra change is beyond me, it's not Hashirama's+Ashura's chakra, it's Hashirama's chakra being identical to Ashura's. How and why would it suddenly change everywhere (in all the forests he created and every cell left behind) just because he died. Your body adapts to chakra and that in turn influences your chakra. Naruto was exposed to Kyubi chakra before birth and got his whiskers, he would've been a pseudo-jinchuuriki anyway even without Kurama. Kinkaku-Ginkaku were similarly changed and didn't suddenly lose Kurama"s chakra after death. Indra's six paths yin chakra is generated by mind/soul/spirit/brain, you don't see Madara thinking different just because Indra got to Sasuke, Madara didn't lose his six paths yin. So Hashirama wouldn't lose his six paths yang generated by his body. What I wouldn't give to eradicate this stupid take of somehow losing six paths chakra for some reason.
The Rinnegan becoming your base eye is way cooler of an explanation than it not being able to turn it off Hagaromo: "I used my God power creation of all things to make you an eye that has the exponential power of both Sharingan and Rinnegan. Switching between the two will not be necessary. Sasuke: "Thanks ninja god there isn't some weird catch that your godly powers can't overcome like a constant charkra drain that may kill me if I get too tired right? Hagaromo: *Sweating profusely* "Well got to go, God stuff to do!"
You do realize Hagaromo is really not an god but somewhat you can say a god saying creation of all things is cap He is no where near creation of all things like shibai if you ever gotten in boruto which further explains shibai you would know.
In the original idea of Kishimito i think Sasuke can't have rinnesharingan permanetly. In the Sarada manga spinoff you can see the tomoe switched off, then Sasuke say a thing like "oh now i feel my powers back" and the tomoe reappers. So that's it, the rinnesharingan sleeping state is just a normal rinnegan without tomoe
I think the simplest explanation to Kakashi awakening the mangekyo sharingan is that if the special uchiha chakra is already in the eye (i.e sharingan already activated), it will only need the emotion to react with and become a mangekyo eye. If this is true, anyone can awaken a mangekyo but only uchihas can do so while the eye is deactivated (it would force the eye to activate I'd guess). As far as Sasuke's rinnegan goes, I think he can't deactivate it because the dojutsu isn't his, It's his eye but the Rinnegan isn't an uchiha dojutsu, it's an otsutsuki dojutsu. So even though the physical eye isn't Hagoromo's eye it is using a dojutsu that the eye isn't made for, so while Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra within him it works fine. It's the same principle that lets Kakashi use Obito's sharingan at max capacity with his own eyes without any problems as long as Obito's chakra is still within Kakashi's body. Madara's chakra became like Hagoromo's when he mixed the brothers' chakra so he didn't have this problem since he's also producing it all the time. He is essentially hagoromo and when he absorbs the divine tree he is essentially kaguya which in turn unlocks her rinnesharingan, and maybe even her byakugan? Nagato's chakra reserve is just cracked I guess 🤷
Kakashi couldn't use obito ms at max capacity tho, his kamui took way too long and I think there's a scene where they both use it together and it makes the long range kamui even faster
The 2nd Hokage got one thing slighly wrong about the Sharingan: - It's the EYE that's important: the eye itself is what's responsible for leaking the "special kind of chakra" that causes the mutations, - But ONLY AN UCHIHA (their brain, CNS, etc.) can properly harness the Sharingan (including activating and deactivating it). Occam's Razor! 🧠🧠
For Kakashi awakening the MS, I think that's what the scene where Obito was able to see brief glimpses through Kakashi's eye was to imply. If Obito could see moments through Kakashi being near him, Obito awakening the MS next to Kakashi would also awaken the other one.
11:17 I think the mangekyou sharingan chakra that allows u to awaken the ms comes with the sharingan in the eye itself, so when kakashi awoke it, the eye itself released a certain type of chakra to the brain, which then activated the mangekyou
Btw Sasuke was right, world piece was achieved by sasuke literally annoying everyone as a memeber of the akatatsuki, if everyone had to hate sasuke they would want to become strong enough to beat him, and considering his power at the time, he would never lose, he'd basically just make everyone try to become stronger without the massive amounts of deaths brought on by war.
Would ppl just give up after a while when they realized they can't beat him, based on politics/governmental systems that I've seen and the way psychology works, there's no way ppl who all come together and be all peaceful and train together to fight man and Naruto kinda did this in the 4th Ninja war by having everyone come together agasint a common enemy but sasuke didn't like this and wanted his ways
Sasuke would have had to keep killing a lot of people for people to consider him worth attacking as an enemy, otherwise they would just be fighting a god for no reason and eventually give up. Peace acquired through continued murder of innocents is not ideal. It was also so dumb because Sasuke could have at least given the world a chance to be peaceful now that they had united vs akatsuki.
@@DiamonDust That's true but simply doing that is more efficient, and although people would likely have to die he did say he was gonna kill all the kage and Naruto if he tried to stop him, so if he kills Naruto and the five kage everyone will hate him, but he'll probably try to make it constantly look like there's hope to attack him but you make a hood point and considering the fact that I don't know what he would have done i can't say what would happen so id say you're right about that but even so he only really cares to kill Naruto and the kage, then after that he's still achieving peace. But my main point was actually that he was right because of the akatsuki, they are exactly what he planned to be. Peace was achieved through this almost unstoppable evil force, and sasuke initially became an enemy helping start that war through the idea of killing the guy that's basically the raikage's brother
@@cursedrax5439 The Akatsuki indirectly helped create world peace by people uniting against them, but if the Akatsuki already achieved that accidentally then Sasuke doesn’t need to do that too. This was the first allied shinobi force in history and peace looked very promising, Sasuke was just overly pessimistic and had no faith that the peace would last long. He could have waited to see if it lasted then just became a “villain” later. It didn’t have to happen right then. Or he could just not be a dick lol. You don’t kill people just cause something might fail.
@@DiamonDust True, but if feel like he's going for something more, he wants everyone to see him and think, I need to be stronger, rather than actual peace, think about it, children in the waring states period were stronger, and so if everyone has nothing to fight for they won't train as hard but if sasuke the terrible criminal who killed all world leaders as well as the greatest hero of the world and his so called best friend is out there they are more likely to train hard, plus sasuke sees the kage as bad people for allowing corruption, he doesn't care about them.
@@KrimsonKage yeah, I was pretty surprised that no one noticed it. It's the same for Naruto as well. Obito specifically stole 1 and 8 tails chakra from madara to give it to naruto
Thanks for commenting. This youtuber is dumb. Probably a newbie narutard. He literally missed the most important element of Sasuke's rinnegan awakening.
Correction: @ 10:18 the explanation about the Uchiha awakening the Sharingan through emotional experiences changing the eyes is about the regular Sharingan, not the Mangekyo.
Yes, if energy and chakra are treated as the same thing or even more specifically if Lightning chakra is treated as Thor’s Lightning then Preta Path absorbs it. Therefore Thor’s attacks only strengthen Sasuke. Sasuke is also the best Lightning User in the NarutoVerse so he can block Thor’s Lightning with chidori like kakashi blocked Kakuzu’s Lightning or use Kirin to direct the Cumulonimbus clouds that Thor create with mjolnir. Turning Thor’s attack against him. Sasuke also can rip out Thor’s soul if he can touch him. Deva Path negates Thor’s hand to hand combat. EMS/Six Tomoe Sharingan also gives Sasuke the upper hand in combat and if Thor manages to get off an attack that could kill Sasuke. Sasuke can use Amenotejikara and switch his place with Thor’s.
Well, the thing is, what makes you think you can deactivate rinnegan in the first place? I don't think I have seen anyone do it before. You are welcome to correct me.
That filler which caused hagoromo to awakened the rinnegan is justifiable tho since he is the son of the rabbit godess that ate the chakra fruit after all.. awakening it will be easier..
If memory serves me right, when Madara was lying on the ground dying right before the Naruto and Sasuke rematch, he had his Rinnegan deactivated. He had normal eyes as he laid there. Does that mean he can deactivate them, or was that just a weird result of him passing away? BTW, whenever I decide to watch the series again, I'm going to skip the entire Kaguya part and go right to Madara's death scene, pretending that Naruto and Co. defeated him in some off screen fight. It makes the finale so much better, which is sad.
I wish Sasuke used Ashura path to make a mechanized replacement arm. Imagine him fighting with sword in one arm while the other transforms to different weapons or projectiles.
You mean serval extra arms, and even more tendrils and weapons. jet shoes, also tendo to boost lfy speed and pull/push more. Ripp out souls, revive and restore bodies..summon serval useful animals. Extract information. And more and more. Guess they realized the Rinnegan in the hands of a protagonist is to much of a cheat code. It was cool with pain but to easy for Sasuke to easily solve so many issues.
15:08 If the Rinnegan and the Sharingan act as two different modes for the original user, the Sharingan can already naturally be deactivated when you're the original user so that would explain why Madara could still access his original deactivated eyes through the Sharingan mode but could not through the Rinnegan mode cause that's just how the Rinnegan looks at all time. Therefore, the Rinnegan itself still couldn't be deactivated. And it's seems to stay coherent with all the characters with Rinnegans we've seen until this point. Even in the few scenes with Hagoromo, he never seems to deactivate it and it's his own Rinnegans. That could imply the Rinnegan are still always activated but it just doesn't visually appears as such when the user switches to Sharingans.
Fun fact: During Sasuke's first appearance in The Last (not when he destroyed the meteor, but when wandered through the wasteland), he has a deactivated Rinnegan.
What's weird is they said sasuke can't deactivate his rinnegan yet when we first see sasuke in "The Last: Naruto movie" when you pause the movie soon as the astroid passes over him his left eye doesn't have the rinnegan activated
Its sad that most of Naruto and Sasukes power isnt really theirs. Naruto cheats using Kurama and Sasuke uses someone elses eyes, from Itachi's to this magic Rinnegan that got magiced into him lol.
To be fair, I don't really see it as cheating as Naruto had to deal with controlling Kurama, yes, it is a power he got thanks to Kurama, but it was him basically beating the shit out of Kurama to actually get his power It would be like saying JubiDara isn't his power because he is a 10 tails Jinchuriki, but the 10 tails even exist because of what Madara Did
@@NighstarLayla thats also a lame powerup lol. Thats why Hashirama is the best, bro is just built different. What Madara did to me is like a boxer losing a fight, so he goes and gets a gun to shoot the boxer that beat him 😂
@@JayEm1325 but Hashirama did nothing for his powers He was born with them There really isn't more difference between Hashirama's absurd chakra and wood release and Naruto Having Kurama They both got it at birth Is something broken that almost nobody else has And it just works At least Naruto had issues with it but Hashirama was born with his absurd powers, I honestly think that's a lot more lame than Madara and Naruto having to work for his power ups by taming Tail beast
Most of it is though. Naruto only had half of Kurama(with Sasuke's Susanoo armor) and still managed to fight against Juubi Obito who completely decimated Hashirama. Meanwhile Hashirama beat Madara with the full Kyuubi. Same situation with the final fight at the Valley of the End. Sasuke had half of Kurama and the other 8 bijuu yet still couldn't beat Naruto. In both situations, Naruto had to make up the power difference.
@@NightBat-vc5jx To me Toad Sage Naruto is the peak in terms of my preferred powerups. Thats just Naruto being a badass and gaining insane strength on his own. Kurama is just like having your buddy gang up on whoever you want to fight, its not really his power just some external help and I personally dont find that very compelling. Sasuke is even worse dude just has magic eyeballs that somehow make up the difference between no tailed beast and having a tailed beast. I love this anime why else would I be commenting on this but I alw3ays found it annoying that the MCs godly strength isnt really theirs. I know Naruto would still be a beast in-universe without Kurama though. For Madara usually bad guys do that, they go on some quest for power and get it so him getting his final form power through external means is ok, I dont love it but I can accept it for a villain, for the good guys though? Irritates me. I like the good old training to get stronger thing rather than "wo this guy showed up and now Im stronk" lol
I'm not sure if this was mentioned but when sasuke and naruto were on the brink of death kabuto arrived to give sasuke hashirama cells to heal him while narutos heart was manually being pumped by Sakura. Then they arrived in the sage's realm to recieve 6 paths power
@DygoKnight interesting theories except that it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to have tomoes in his rinnegan because of six paths chacra if the literal sage of six paths was never shown to activate tomoes in his own rinnegan when using six paths chakra. And by that same logic, Sasuke's rinnegan could not be Hagoromo's rinnegan. On a separate note, I find it curious that when Sasuke was low on chakra (in Boruto's anime at least) he would loose the tomoes on his rinnegan.
0:05 Urashiki's Rinnegan also has tomoe. Earlier variations of the Jūbu also have a tomoe Rinnegan, which is not quite to the level of the RInne-Sharingan. The Rinne-Sharingan is actually called a Rinnegan in the manga. Sasuke says the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a genjutsu cast of the Rinnegan, for example. 0:30 He is shown with it off in The Last, though that was probably a design error. 1:49 Hagoromo himself said it was their inner psyche. Hagoromo did not give Naruto or Sasuke their powers. They already had the potential for it, and if they did not, Hagoromo would have done nothing. He coaxed out and formed their powers, which they would have eventually gotten on their own. 4:20 Sasuke also got Hashirama's cells from Kabuto as he was being healed right before Hagoromo appeared, so he met the conditions either way. 7:15 The tomoe represents the Sharingan underneath his Rinnegan. When he taxes it, the tomoe disappear and presumably he cannot cast Mangekyō jutsu from that eye until they return. He is shown regaining a Mangekyō in his other eye at the same time as his Rinnegan tomoe, indicating the two are comparable in relation to visual prowess, so it is essentially a fused eye. 7:35 The Onyx Chidori is actually a result of the Six Paths Yin Power from the Moon Seal, not the Rinnegan, he lost the Moon Seal after sealing Kaguya, yet obviously the Rinnegan remains. It is likely this seal, only on his left side, which influenced the Rinnegan on that side of his body, hence him only having the one (rather than any limitations on Hagoromo). 9:50 Actually, it is just Uchiha eyes that function like that. Ao can turn his Byakugan on or off. 10:55 It is the power awakened from getting the abilities of both eyes, not simply having both eyes. Sasuke did not fully develop Kagutsuchi until the Gokage Kaidan, at which point, the Susanoo manifested. Obviously, neither Kakashi nor Obito can develop the abilities in the other eye they do not have, so Itachi's explanation does not conflict. Every Mangekyō awakening is shown paired, as well. 11:10 Probable, given they even were sharing sight, psychically. During the war, Kakashi could even see and hear through Obito despite the fact they were in a different dimension from each other, so the Sharingan are linked in that way. 11:50 This is still wrong. Danzō was able to switch from three tomoe to Mangekyō in Shisui's eye, which was already Mangekyō when he transplanted it. Seems like it is just up to the transplantee, or Danzō gained sufficient control over it due to Hashirama cells. 15:00 The Rinnegan itself actually amplifies chakra, which probably negates the chakra drain. Even still, Sasuke's seems to potentially take more than it gives back, since he does actually cover it behind his hair. Might be that fusing it is what caused it to be permanent (even when drained), and also take more to keep up. Unlikely it is directly to do with Hagoromo, though, since Hagoromo was not really the one who awakened it. It is stated to be Sasuke's, though, as I doubt Hagoromo had the unique teleportation ability (in fact, unique Rinnegan abilities can be used by a transplantee, as neither Nagato nor Obito could use Limbo).
My thesis was always that because haguromo stated that he originally planned to pass hid power to both of his children(mabe thats filler or i rember wrong ). So I think the way he awakend his rinnegan he didn’t need ashuras chakra.
I'm glad you pointed out the scene with Hashirama giving Sasuke his Chakra which kind prove my argument, Naruto benefited way more than Sasuke during the meeting with Hagoromo. It's safe to assume that Sasuke would've eventually awakened the Rinnegan without Hagoromo.
Question: When Madara met Obito in the cave he was using some other Uchiha's eyes, did he ever deactivate them? Can an Uchiha deactivate the eyes of another Uchiha? Clearly if they're brothers hey can hence EMS but it wouldn't surprise me if he couldn't. Could Madara unlock Mangekyo with someone else's eyes? I feel like these eyes react to chakra released by strong emotion which, according to Tobirama, the Uchiha feel the most sort of. But if you're NOT Uchiha but still go through the emotions you can unlock it yourself. It's weird since Obito is later shown to transfer chakra through space and time but I'm just speculating. I'm sure Kakashi unlock it on his own hence he can deactivate it.
My theory regarding the six paths powers is that Hagoromo didn’t physically give them the powers, just a small fraction of his own Chakra for the seal, but them being Indra and Ashura reincarnates combined with the special circumstances they died in all came together to create a mishmash of various six-paths abilities that manifested depending on which incarnate they were. Naruto only had access to 8 1/2 of the tailed beasts’ chakra, but once Minato put the other half of the Nine tails in him he officially had all 9 tailed beasts complete and was able to do some of the techniques of the ten tails, though not anywhere near the level of the actual ten tails’ jinchuuriki. The Sage mode buff came from mixing the Nature energy affinity the nine-tails had with that little bit of Hagoromo’s Chakra, and the cloak is most likely his own doing, but the ashura reincarnation chakra caused the cloak to resemble Ashura. Sasuke was stabbed in the heart, but was revived by Kabuto, whose healing powers come from being almost entirely made of Hashirama’s cells. I presume that to heal Sasuke, he infused a bit of his own DNA to give him crazy healing specifically in his heart. It was barely any, though, so mixing that very minuscule bit of synthetic Hagoromo chakra with the buff from the moon chakra may have created a botched Rinnegan evolution, resulting in in only one rinnegan that he’s unable to turn off due to an incomplete evolution process. The cool new powers and tomoe most likely come from the adding of six paths chakra during the evolution process, which also explains how he awakened it so quickly.
About Kakashi's mangekyo one theory could be a recall from the end of the series. Kakashi of the double sharingan. Obito gave his eyes from literally other side to kakashi which implies in the world of Naruto theres always a higher dimension the spiritual dimension. We can simply say that when both Obito and Kakashi saw Rin die their eyes just connected on spiritual realm and turned to mangekyo at the same time.
I think Оbito's MS was somehow activated shortly before his "death" under the rocks, maybe when he was crushed but he hadn't given the eye to Kakashi yet. And he used it instinctively for the first time. That's why he "slipped" into Madara's cave instead of just dying under the rock.
The part of needing indra and ashura chakra, I've always thought of it like you need both of those to recreate or emulate hagoromo's chakra which is a requirement for awakening the rinnengan
I think i have explanation how Nagato uses "his" rinnegan 24/7: 1.He is uzumaki clan so he has massive chakra reserves; 2.His right is closed by hair , you can see that in this vid ; 3.Even tho he is uzumaki , he probably trained alot to have passive chakra regeneration , so it counters rinnegan consumption Those are all reasons i could've thought of
Before I finish watching, my own 2 cents is that MS is basically the equivalent of a 4 tomoe sharingan, EMS is 5 tomoe, and Rinnegan is 6 tomoe. Him having 6 tomoe might be an equivalent of him having 2 rinnegan (6+6=12 quick maffs), but instead of on 2 eyes, it's just on one. Since the series is symbolic of yin and yang, the powers for Sasuke imbued on to his left side with the moon seal included, and Naruto's S6P powers imbuing more towards his right side. Since the Rinnegan was awakened through Hagoromo's chakra, it didn't awaken with the use of his own body like it did in Madara's case (or maybe it did awaken with Hashirama's help but Hagoromo's input created the tomoe within it), and since Sasuke is an Uchiha the drain isn't noticeable to him as opposed to if he wasn't, coupled with the fact his chakra reserve is top-tier.
One thing that put me in mind is that all three of the characters experienced death to awaken this power. The first was Hagoromo who awakened it by killing his brother plus awakening his Rinnegan after mastering sage art, the connection of life energy all around us. This makes sense since the divine tree from Naruto is made by sucking up all life force energy in order to make the fruit from the tree. The second is that Naruto and Sasuke both had chakra of each other inside them, please mind how they got it from, and called forth Hagoromo and acquired the power of the sage paths. Madara was on the verge of death with both clans chakra inside them making the Rinnegan appear at the last minute. If anything they are related when the last person is close to death.
My guess is that Sasuke's tomoes are from the prior form of his Sharingan, 3 from the base form and 3 from the Mangekyo or EMS. I'm probably getting a little bit ahead of myself, and it probably sounds dumb, but maybe how Mangekyo works is just adding three additional tomoes onto the 3-tomoe Sharingan, but they fused together and shaped differently into what Mangekyos look like. And adding those prior forms' tomoes onto Rinnegan is what makes Sasuke able to use the prior forms' abilities while Rinnegan is opened
Serious question: how did Madara give Nagato 2 working eyes, when he used a time-delayed Izanagi on himself to fake his death, sacrificing and blinding that one eye? He should only have had one eye while he was alive, going forward. Did he just steal a random Uchiha's sharingan to replace it? Did the Hashirama cells restore it? Does awakening a Rinnegan restore the use of blinded eyes? Did Kishimoto just forget?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the ten tails also possess a 6 tomoe rinnegan? I was under the impression that only Madara and Kaguya possessed rinne-sharingans.
Not gonna lie, i really hope instead of youtubers placing assumption, theories and suggestions of naruto's world building and things revolving it, why not Kishimoto himself gives explanation in certain issues in Q&A. Other big 3 like One piece and Bleach have their own Q&A , where fans can pitch questions about the series and the mangaka themselves will select and answer the questions .
i could be wrong but i feel like the reason kakashi is able to awaken mangekyo while not being an uchiha is its probably more likely that the eyes themselves react to whatever traumatic event to awaken and its not like something special with uchiha bodies or chakra
No nagato was hooked up to the geto statue that was funneling chakra into him. And Obito had hashirama cells which also let him have higer pools of chakra plus the rinnegan and absorb chakra so i wouldn’t think it would be above Obito to do that during the war arc. He even got hooked up to the statue for a while during the war too so he didn’t need to deactivate it
Is Boruto canon?
Sadly yes
Absolutely not
I know everyone seems to hate Boruto but tbh.... I actually love it lol. I love anything and everything affiliated with Naruto so Boruto is entertaining and I definitely think Naruto is wayyyyy better but I enjoy the characters personalities and the villains.
Just my opinion 🤷
Factual Answer: Yes
What everyone and their mother thinks: It's at most a bad spin off that isn't part of the actual story
in my heart it isnt
Burrito figured out how to turn it off.
Lmao
😂😂 nice one
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useful for once
That’s not cannon though so…
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One of the most powerful eye powers... You can poke it with a toothpick and you win
Oh, and they’re eyebulbs
It's an eye regardless of the series if caught off guard an eye can be stabbed. Y'all just wanna dunk on Boruto gotta be the biggest L
Yes, try it with yours and I'm sure you lose as well. Strongest eye does not mean physically and that it made of steel 😂. The eyeball is still a delicate organ, even if it has powers. Cope.
Shira tensi
The eye just like the rest of the shinobi body is difficult to damage. Borruto uses a metal hard shard object designed to penetrate flesh. And boruto at that moment had enhanced strenght and had momentum. Yet the blade didn't go all the way in
Just remember that Nagato was an Uzumaki. It was one if the factors for why he was chosen to wield it. Him tiring from chakra consumption was less likely.
he kinda mentined that but not as specific, he mentioned that nagato coming form a senju bloodline is a main factor as too why he was choosen, and as we know uzamakis are a branch related to senjus
I mean the way Nagato mastered and used it as if it were his own showed that this was the right choice. Obito stated he could barely handle one, left alone use it. Nagato practicly spammed the abilities, filled 6 adult bodies with chakra he puppeteered. Fought the strongest village safe team Gai. Blew up all of Konoha in one masive ability. Then faced Sage Naruto to capture alive not kill, while Naruto had all the intel, all the frogs with expirience fighting Pain, intent to kill and unseen abilities Nagato had to figure out on the fly without Tendo aviable. Fought his way till he managed to get Tendo ready and instantly turned the tides spamming more high chakra jutsu. Then pinns Naruto, fights Hinata, then six tails up to 8. Almost seals it in an even more chakra consuming chibaku, then fights Naruto again..and in the end had enough chakra to revive all of Konoha.
Meawhile people like Sasuke can maybe dish out two shinra tensei or deam it to chakra consuming, an Obito had his paths run on their Bijuu chakra because he lacked such a large pool. And only Madara showed that he could use his Rinnegan arsenal more frequent, but even he did not utelize it to the level Nagato could.
Uzumaki wich are a Senju brach defenately have insane chakra levels. Kushina for example straight up survived a Bijuu ripped out and fought post giving birth and that. Wich in itself is an insane feat of endurance, chakra and just life force. Something even Naruto does not have fully. As we see in the war even he had to be healed by Sakura.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm That's also why Naruto can have hundreds and thousands of clones with the forbidden technique. Most of the strongest ninjas use 2 to 5 clones, top.
Thank you. A lot of ppl don’t under this part which was explicitly stated multiple times. Sasuke cannot use the paths of pain because he simply doesn’t have the chakra reserves for it to be practical
Madara wasn't able to turn it off , he has to transform it to sharingan first
And hagraromo is never seen without it so most likely the renigan can't be turned off
@RealLifeIronMan well saskue awakened the renigan in a different way than madara as in saskue case hagraromo was personally involved in helping him awaken it
And it seems that saskue ems merged with his renigan as he can use his ems powers with his renigan while madara needed to transform his renigan to ems to cast occuler genjutsu
But why can Madara transform his rinnegan to sharingan when Sasuke can't?
They are actually quite similar. They both attained EMS by transplanting their brothers MS. They both transformed their EMS into rinnegan by attaining Hagaromo chakra; Madara by combining Asura and Indra chakra and Sasuke by recieving direct Hagaromo chakra. The only difference is Sasuke only has one rinnegan and it has tomoe.
@@MuhammadAlkomyeveryone forgets that sasuke took hashiramas chakra before he got stabbed by madara. Because he mixed Indra and asuras chakras together, he awakened the rinnegan. The only thing hogoromo gave him was the moon seal so he could seal madara
@@Yoshsterpalooza
But it would have taken decades though to get rinnegan that way.
@@artistaroundtheblock2047 it took him a long time to correctly implement hashiramas dna into his body. By the time of shippuden, people figured out how to add hashiramas cells into their body on the fly.
about the final fight: i think that sasuke's left eye was simply swollen shut because naruto punched it several times
That plus his chakra was low so he kept it close to preserve the little bit of stamina he had left
Sasuke first covered his eye right after using amaterasu on Naruto, experiencing his eye strain moment, keeping it closed when he pierced the naruto clone with chidori, naruto fell with his rasengan, Sasuke pummeled him and THEN they started punching each other into a pulp.
@@fielalmanga 1.amaterasu is in his left eye
2. i don't understand what you're trying to say
@@bmorebirdsnest92 possibly
@@fielalmanga That was only in the anime, not the manga. I have volume 72 on my lap rn actually. Lol
Sasuke also acquired Hashirama's cells through Kabuto, while he healed the stab in his heart. Just like Naruto acquired a pseudo ten tails mode by reseiving and fusing the chakra from all the bijuu inside of him. When Hagoromo said a lot of specific conditions had been met in order to allow their encounter he really meant it.
Yes, people are really missing a lot about how Naruto and Sasuke got their powers. Sure, Hagoromo met them, but only after Sasuke was being revived with Hashirama cells by Kabuto (so now Sasuke got access to Indra and Ashura chakra) and Naruto was being revived by Obito.
@@wolfofwarframe3807 it is not because "Obito was reviving him" Naruto was not dead. What Obito did was steal a portion of the 1 tail and 8 tails from Madara, and then gave it to Naruto as well as the other half of Kurama. Then Gyuki says "That Obito knew which tailed beast chakra you lacked" or something like that, if Obito wanted to save Naruto he just needed Kurama, so he did the extra to gave Naruto what he lacked in order to obtain SPSM to fight Madara, because previously all the other bijuu gave their chakra to Naruto, except for the 1 tail and 8 tails because Shukaku didn't meet Naruto and Gyuki was inside of Bee. The reason why Naruto could see Hagoromo was because he was almost dead just like Sasuke, and because he obtained a portion of every bijuu, a pseudo 10 tails chakra mix, and Sasuke got Hashirama cells from Kabuto. In theory Naruto should get six path sage mode having the chakra of all the tailed beast, just like Obito and Madara got SPSM being the 10 tails jinchuriki, and Sasuke should awaken the rinnegan mixing Ashura and Indra's chakra, both without Hagoromo's intervention even if it's delayed, so for me he gave them a push make it instantly, and the seals for the six paths-chibaku tensei.
@@gonzalopanizza Yes, my bad, I didnt remember what Obito gave him, but I knew it would count as something that would give Naruto the option to level up, so its probably the chakra of remaining beasts.
@@wolfofwarframe3807 thank god one guy had common sense
Sasuke didn't receive Hashirama cells from Kabuto. Kabuto just healed him. He received chakra directly from Hashirama. In the conversation they had right before Sasuke went to attack Madara alone, Hashirama said he would give Sasuke all his remaining chakra.
To this day we still don't know exactly how madara "implanted" the rinnegan onto nagato without him knowing. Did he sneak into nagato's room when he was asleep???
Genjutsu
Anesthesia
Thought he had obito do it
Retcon
Simple genjutsu can do that bro lol
Kabuto gave Sasuke Hashirama cells by pumping that weird stuff into him.
All kabuto did was heal him using his snake sage plus karin's healing ability, kabuto never had hashirama's cells
@@bmorebirdsnest92Read the manga again. He literally said he was implanting Hashirama's cells into Sasuke.
@@carpezinhe doesn’t even know Kabuto had hasi cells, no point in convo with him
@@carpezin what chapter.....
@@poodie3887 when he get the cells....
he maintains the standard, after nagato's death
Who, what are you talking about
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Kakashi and Obito's eyes were linked via the Kamui dimension, so when one awakened the Mangekyo, so did the other.
Idk it's the same scene.
Right, kakashi is just able to use the sharigan. Obito was unlocking shit
@@lordkars3971 I agree, I think if Obito had actually died from the rocks, Kakashi never would’ve been able to unlock MS.
@Thomas-rz5nt I think thats even how kakashi realized he was still alive was when his sharigan kept maturing, could be remembering wrong tho
Bro obito was game sharing with kakashi
Obito's mangekeyo ability might very well be directly correlated with the fact that his eyes were physically apart whilst awakening the mangekeyo, therefore they needed to form a bridge through the space-time continuum, hence the ability to manipulate said space-time.
No it’s not
@@fastsens3653that could be right because the mongekyou is a reflection of the heart and soul of a person. In obito’s case, there was 2 souls🤷🏻♂️
@@Koolaidman-q8e that’s just a theory in itself. Made by fans
They did unlock at the exact same time since they both saw rin die at the same time
Correction: @ 16:18 I am almost positive Sasuke is not consciously closing his left eye. I am almost positive his left eye is shut from being beat up and swollen, similar to Naruto's eye in this fight.
He closed his rinnegan before they started punching each other
@@DygoKnight Hmm, interesting. I will rewatch the fight.
@@DygoKnight after sniping Naruto with Amaterasu which he countered with chakra cloak, Sasuke had his typical eye strain moment and never opened it again until the Bijuu were freed.
Clarity moment... was when Sasuke realized the denial he was in
This is not an argument anyway. kakashi could also close his eyelid, it's just the dojutsu beneeth they can't shut off and that keeps eating away at their chakra reserves.
That's why this is such a silly point in genera. How do you think Kakashi or Sasuke sleep all the time. xD
He can't turn it off because Boruto smashed it with his Temu kunai
bruh u serious
I think it’s as simple as he didn’t unlock it. He only has access to it. Like a video game skill tree. He gained access to rinnegsn abilities but he doesn’t control it because he didn’t put the skill point into the tree in the first place.
Kakashi and Obito both met the requirement to unlock the sharingan
This would make much more sense with Kakashi since he has no Uchiha or senju blood in him and was given a sharingan. It was never in his blood, what you say applies to kakashi more than sasuke
@@lordkars3971 That's not a factor. Obito an Uchiha could also barely handle one base Rinnegan. And Nagato a Uzumaki with extremely high chakra and life force use his better then booth Madara or Sasuke.
It shows us that even if the eye/eyes are not awakened by you if you have the chakra you can still fully use it. Nagato proved that.
Also Sasukes eye is not a base Rinnegan but a special 6 Tomoe Rinnegan wich can operate on diffrent rules. Such as giving him his special swap ability ontop, while still not being "his" per say. As we see Hago force awaken it, and not the natural evolution such as Madara.
Who could in fact activate and deactivate his Rinnegan. Swap to Sharingan etc.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cmnagato did not use the rinnegan better than either madara or Sasuke, nagato needed to divide the paths up into 6 different bodies so the strain was lessened, Sasuke and madara showed use of at least 2 different paths while fighting, and madara even had limbo
He also has the tomoe because it allows him to still use his mangekyo abilities of that eye, those abilities being flame control of Amaterasu. Amaterasu comes from his right eye and flame control from his left
This is something alot of people forget
you dont lose mangekyo abilites just because the eye progressed to a rinnegan. just like you dont lose the ability to use the mangekyo abilites even if you lose the eye.
I always thought it was strange that Madara seemingly "Had" to switch between the two just to use an MS Genjutsu on the Raikage. I get that Kishimoto wanted us to know it was an MS level Genjutsu, but him switching between them while he was an Edo and never when he was alive, made it all strange to me.
Wdym strange? I don’t believe he used a MS genjutsu while he was alive, did he?
@@DiamonDust no, he never used anything related to his MS other than Susanoo when he was Alive, but it was still a weird thing to see him swap between them like that.
@@bchavez149 I think it actually helps to avoid a potential plot hole, which is “why can’t Nagato use sharingan abilities?”. The implication is that only Uchiha can toggle between Sharingan and Rinnegan. Also, it just looks visually interesting to see the switch and it let the Rinnegan appear as a plot twist rather than immediately. It also showed that it was an MS ability like you said.
@@DiamonDust I don't think it really mattered or would have created a plothole at all, the real world reason it was shown that way was so Kishimoto could relay to us that it was "Specifically" an MS genjutsu and not some ability of the Rinegan. But there could have been tens of reason made up to show why Nagato couldn't use Madaras other abilities from the eyes, Madara never switched them back and forth when he came back to life and never had the Rinegan long enough to do it before he gave the eyes to Nagato. It's odd seeing it because we never see it before or again after since he's the only one to have Sharingan that became Rinegan without involvement from Hagoromo. TBH, it looked like something he could only do because he was an Edo in the first place, since it's not like he ever used the Rinegan in combat prior.
i think youre forgetting madara in edo tensei technically just did not have a real eye. when he was revived, he was fully blind until getting his rinnegan back from white zetsu. i think its just a plain and simple reason for why sasuke isnt able to turn it off, that being you cant turn the rinnegan on and off.
Something important to point out - That red circle on Hagoromo's forehead is not some rinne-sharingan. I mean just look at them clearly, they appear flat, as if they are some kind red circle pattern similar to the one at his backside. Perhaps a crest or symbol or something.
It's more of a prototype Sharingan as it doesn't have the added black markings around the pupil.
The ninshu mark
He did turn it off in Naruto movie the last... before he got to konoha, but people said it was a mistake
14:48 Nagato used to always keep a city wide sensory jutsu active so I dont think he'd feel a comparatively small drain like keeping his Rinnegan active even if he could turn it off
Sasuke wanted to pull off a lelouch with his zero requiem plan. Although sasuke is a chad who will not off himself
Before i say this, know sasuke is my MOST favourite in naruto.
Comparing sasuke with lelouch is like comparing L with kirito of sao( in terms of being cool and likeable)
@@devilhunter3469Sasuke the GOAT. Kitito 🗑
Lelouchs plan was to end war by uniting humanity against a common enemy, himself.
@@Goatku-m3s not really, hes not likable much but in naruto hes still the most interesting
“6 paths Naruto cannot be touched by anyone…only by Sasuke” 💀
Hinata only can get the leftovers...
We did get the explaination, Hashirama gave Sasuke a jutsu that reacts to his senjutsu chakra and binds the user.
If i recall correctly, tobiramas explanation about uchihas brain chakra thing was about the awakening of a regular sharingan. Maybe that special chakra is not necessary for a magenkyo? And kakashi not being able to turn off his eye is probably because he dosent have the same eye nerves a uchiha have
This is supported by Danzo, who also could switch between MS and normal Sharingan mode. Mangekyo seems to just work for anyone.
And for Sasuke it may be because Hagoromos chakra is beyond Indra and Ashura. As he is the direct son of Kaguya, hence he has more and more potent chakra.
Could be his infrerior Indra physique can also ot properly handly Hagoromos chakra.
but didnt sasuke get hashirama cells from kabuto when he healed him?
He seems like he forgot that.
This is what i think too. Sasuke was near death and Kabuto is pumping him full of Hashirama Chakra to heal him.
Naruto gets some chakra from all the tailed beasts making him a mini ten tails. The sage of six paths in his Ethereal state only gave the Sun and Moon hand markings to seal Kaguya the rest were the power ups being given to them while they were being revived
Kabuto says he studied the regeneration of Hashirama's cells, it's controversial that he injected it into Sasuke
Cuz then Sasuke would far surpass Naruto
Same reason Sasuke never learned sage mode or rasengan
But unlocking rinnegan that way takes decades
I think the rinesharingan of saske is more a fuse of is ems and the rinegan, so he doesnt have to switch it like madara, and also cause it looks way cooler then switching the eye.
the rinne sharingan is completely different dojutsu. Sasuke's eye is just a rinnegan. But fans dub it the Sharin-rinnegan. It is not a rinne sharingan.
@@DBL6Dominoya, rinne is red color with 9 tomoe
@DBL6Domino let's be real tho, Sharin-Rinnegan sounds hella stupid compared to the former.
@@DBL6Domino Nah it's defenately not just a Rinnegan since it doeos allow him to use booth. Not the Rinnesharingan of Kaguya or Madara either. Some unique 6 Tomoe Sharingan fusion forced by Hagoromo.
Thus unable to be shut off ue to a unatural evolution.
@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm There's no natural rinnegan user that could shut it off. Edo-Madara's was unnatural and was able to shut it off but those eyes were due to w.e Kabuto did.
And I'm only talking naming convention. Sasuke's rinnegan is named simply rinnegan. Fans dubbed it the sharin-rinnegan but officially it's just a rinnegan.
I didn't notice I'm early. Liking the content. Thx for the work!
let me save you 17:43 seconds.. he’s not otsusuki that’s why
You mean 17 minutes and 43 seconds
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I don't know why but this is the best Dygoknight video I've ever seen and now I'm hooked, great work bro 🎉❤
To me, Sasuke Rinnegan was a true Rinnegan, just like Hagoromo, and a permanent mutation. Madara's wasn't fake or anything like that, but definitely was the weakest out of the three and the one that didn't have true Six Path Chakra.
There is no such thinh as "true Six Paths Chakra". It is just Six Paths chakra, period.
They are all the same strength
@@BeastXISnot really since the tomoe show it's stronger, and it has all the abilities of a normal rinnegan as well as his space time jutsu
@@papasweed.dispenseria5977 The tomoe just represent his Sharingan abilities
Hagoromo's Rinnegan does not have Tomoe
What Sasuke has is just a pseudo Rinne Sharingan
@@BeastXIS yeah I'm just saying theyre not the same strength then
@@papasweed.dispenseria5977 Hagoromo & Madara's Rinnegans are the exact same
Sasuke's Rinnegan has Rinnegan abilities + Sharingan abilities
I am saying there is no such thing as "True Six Paths Chakra" & "Fake Six Paths Chakra"
Btw, about Eternal Tsukuyomi. My headcanon about it is that people wouldn't ever die from starvation or old age. Because if it wasn't the case, I feel like we'd know how will Madara solve those problems
Okay, there seems to be a huge misunderstanding here! The requirements for an Uchiha to awaken the Rinnegan are:
▪︎ Have the Mangekyō Sharingan
▪︎ Receive Ashura's cells
▪︎ Be a descendant of Indra
▪︎ Undergo a near-death experience
The reason Madara took so long to achieve this was because after implanting Hashirama's cells into himself, he only managed to fulfill the last requirement because he got too old and almost died. Thus, he only awakened it at the end of his life.
Sasuke, like Madara, fulfilled all the requirements when he was impaled and received Hashirama’s cells from Kabuto. But the crucial difference was that Hagoromo only gave him additional chakra and the Moon Seal to use Rinne Tensei. The condensed chakra formed an anomaly, the Rinnegan with Tomoes!
The Rinnegan, like the Byakugan, is permanent in the user and cannot be deactivated permanently, nor does it consume chakra. The only reason we saw Madara using it during the war was because, as Kabuto mentioned, Madara's body underwent alterations and modifications that allowed him to use it at will! That's why we don’t see him using it again after being fully revived.
thanks, no need to watch the vid anymore
That's perfect
A couple of notes forgotten, when fighting Killer Bee, Sasuke almost died and Jugo gave him his cells which are naturally senjutsu also the same happened with Kabuto who had special DNA from the beginning, mixed with Orochimaru, sound 5 shinobi and senjutsu as a sage.
Senjutsu Chakra doesn't do anything special though. It has nothing to do with the lineage of the Sage of six paths.
What will happen if a clan member from uzumaki, uchiha or senju receive chakra from both reincarnations of Indra and asura.
Will that person have six paths power or won't work.
Wouldn't work because they are not reincartaions themselves.
The only instance of someone naturally awakening the Rinnegan was also Madara after a lifetime for it to take effect. So ultimately we can't even really say anything beyond that.
I left a like since you answered the question so quickly, i feel my time was respected
i think sasuke got the rinnegan when he got cells from kaubto kabuto and naruto got sage of six paths when obito gave his 9 tails back + some chakra of the ten tails (kabuto fused with orochimaru which gave some of the hasirama cells orochimaru had)
I don't think it was Hagoromo's Intention to even give Sasuke Rinnegan only Moon seal this happened do external factors he has nothing to do with it i mean why would he give so much power to someone he knows is going to be enemy even if he needed him to beat Madara his money was always on Naruto just like with Asura
Sasuke did not get the rinnegan from the cells because Hashirama was no longer Ashura's reincarnation (Naruto was)
Obito and Kakashis' eyes were linked as it was shown before Obito reached the battle field, it only appeared that Kakashi was the one awakening the sharingan because he offed Rin, but at that time when it happened Obito appeared at the right moment and awakened both sharingan
In "the last" sasuke is shown without rinnegan activated and that movie is canon, but in boruto he has the standart rinnegan out of battle and the stronger version when he is fighting. During war once madara activated his rinnegan he never turn it off. I don't really know if they can do it.
The studio that made the movie had come out and said that was a animation error as they forgot to put it in.
I believe it was in a interview but it was a error
@@whatifmyhero8108 can you send me a link to the interview?
Yes, he did deactivate it in The Last, and it probably is not an animation error since this version of Sasuke also has his Rinnegan off in Retsu No Sho.
i’ll save you 18 minutes, it’s not his natural Rinnegan
Ty
@@DanShinjo 100% Same reason Naruto could not just recreate new Truth seeking orbs since they also were just a gift from hagoromo and not an inate ability he awakened naturaly.
whole lotta yapping for a 5 minute video
Nah tons of cool info in here
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cmpretty sure he never made em cuz they're kinda complicated to remake
10:40 mmmmm yes bluetooth sharingan
Um havent u seen the tomoe disappear when he runs out of chakra
Rinnegone...
Now we have nobody with a Rinnegan in the verse. but we have other forms at least
What if Madara was revived as an old man and then became the ten tails host? Like how would his personality be if was revived old and then got the ten tails while he was old then tried to beat Naruto and Sasuke. Would he be less arrogant or would he act the same way he was while in his prime age? Kind of a pointless thought but...
I always interpreted it as a fusion of the Rinnegan and Sharinga, but not a Rinneshanringan, just one literally added to the other.
A simpler explanation would be that he just doesn't need to as the rinnegan doesn't strain when activated prime example nagato and the reason His rinnegan has 6 tomoe is because it is a fusion of the rinnegan and the sharingan
It's funny how Hagoromo said it would depend on the people outside but he gave them his chakra, a mode and a Rinnegan.
Sasuke got Hashirama cells from kabuto. Naruto got all the tails from obito. That’s how they awakened their powers and met with the sage of six paths.
Sasuke got his rinnegan from hagoromo and not Hashirama cells. It wouldn't make sense if he got it from the cells because Hashirama was no longer Ashura's reincarnation
@@aurel1999 the only thing he got from Hagoromo was the moon mark.
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@number1anonymous If that's was the case he would have 2 normal rinnegan
@@kaizatengoku3893 if that was the case his rinnegan would have been taken back by hagoromo.
"Why Sasuke Can't Turn Off The Rinnegan" maybe because you can't deactivate a Rinnegan?? Nagato couldn't, nor Obito, nor Madara
Nagato and obitos rinnegan aren't thier own, it was given to them by madara and you cant turn off borrowed eyes.
Madara turned off and turned on his rinnegan a few times in the war arc
@@The_Demiurge no, that didn't happen, from the moment he implanted his eyes when he was revived with rinne tensei he never did that, it only happened once when he was in edo tensei, and when he was in edo tensei those weren't true rinnegans
Nobody turnt off the rinnegan . Not even the sage. It’s sasuke eye. The sage gave him the power to evolve it. This is just a bullshit video
@@The_DemiurgeI’m think he turned off the rinnigan by splitting his and hashiramas charkra but this is just my theory
@badgamertreek6698 In Obito and Nagato's case, I believe they weren't able to turn off the Rinnegan. The same way Kakashi couldn't turn off his Sharingan, it's not their eye. In Hagaromo's case, it's pretty simple, after his death he siphons chakra from the pure lands (Naruto Heaven), a different dimension granting him close to if not infinite chakra and thus no reason to deactive his Rinnegans. Now the hard part, Madara, there are two ways, the one I find more in character for someone like Madara, that also fits with the abilities he gained during and after Edo Tensei, is Hashirama's sage mode, through the face in Madara's chest, which like Hashirama on his wooden constructs, gains nature energy passively (as long as something, other than Madara moving his pec, doesn't disturb the stationary state of the face), which would grant Madara infinite chakra (as senjutsu chakra gained in sage mode boosts your own chakra reserves) through constantly pulling in nature energy, thus no real reason to deactivate or switch his rinnegan to his EMS. As well as a couple minutes after gaining one of his rinnegan he became the jinjuriki of the TEN Tails, the complete form of the Gedo statue (that kept Madara alive decades past what he should of lived through siphoning the chakra of the Gedo Statue), which made the problem of the rinnegan's chakra drain a non factor. Or who knows maybe I'm looking to deep into this, and once you get a rinnegan you just can't deactivate it (I'm fine with either answer).
Editors note: Just wanted to add the Sasuke bit since I know someone will probably ask about it. Either through meeting Hagaromo directly and receiving his chakra, that it caused a new form of rinnegan, the Six Tomoe Rinnegan, which functions like a regular sharingan with more chakra kinda, where the tomoes are the sharingan, and the rinnegan without the tomoe are like the base eye of an Uchia (as only members of the bloodline of the user's Dojutsu can deactivate their Dojutsu). Or like earlier with Madara, you just can't deactivate a rinnegan once you've unlocked, but I think that my first idea on why Sasuke can't deactivate his rinnegan makes more sense when we look at what happens in Naruto.
How did Madara even manage to transplant his Rinnegan to Nagato without him noticing at all? There couldn't have been any Zetsu involved as the white ones were developed fully after Obito was already trapped in mountain's graveyard, and the black one first showed up in front of Madara right after obito went mad following Rin's death.
He couldn’t the entire thing a retcon
similarly, how Obito give Kakashi his Sharingan somehow transported his all eyeball into his scull except Kakashi already had an eye ruined one, but it was there so i don't know what happened to it or he somehow only took way his Sharingan from his eye and added to Kakashis original and somehow fixing it as well i assume Madara did same thing like that manifested his Rinnegan to Nagatos ayes i mean Hagoromo did not literally give Sasuke his aye ball just his chacra which manifested as a Rinnegan and a moon seal
Madara was on Gedo Mazo life support, so he could not leave the cave. He had to train and send Obito to do it before dying. Setting up that plan for being revived one day.
Kamui and his insane Genjutsu wich did put a Jinchuukiri in it for years propably stunned Nagato long enough for him to transplant them, and Kamui allows him to even sneak into the Birth of Naruto, so easy to break into his house undetected. And Nagato is a non Shinobi child below 10 at that point, easy to fool into just dreaming.
@@TrafalgarWaterDLaw-dl5cm madara did not have the rinnegan when he met obito cause he already gave them away
@@om58499 Madara literary has eyes in the Manga Pannels thou.
And it wasnt stated when Nagato got the eyes.
We also have no confirmation if Madara outside of Edo coukd turn his Rinnegan off or not.
Wich makes this more plausable. His entire revival plan depends on Obito. So him giving Nagato tge eyes before he even knows Obito will play along would be incredibly senseless as well.
kabuto gave sasuke Hashiramas cells - he did have to mimic the Indra Ashura connection to awaken even partial Rinnegan 2:25
Yeah, that’s what I thought
Or maybe, just maybe, Madara is built different, since he's the only on we ever see deactivate his reningan. Even the otsutsuki's have their strange reningans in weird places, active.
Also it could be that Madara's way of awakening the reningan was the outlier. Since i doubt thats the same way every other reincarnation of indra awakened theirs, although, maybe most of them didn't
Kabuto healed Sasuke with Hashirama cells, so Sasuke had already met all the rinnegan requirements before meeting Hagoromo, he would've awakened his own tomoe-less rinnegan decades later, Hagoromo had simply sped up the process by focusing it in one eye and he also merged it with the chakra flow of Sasuke's EMS, that's why Sasuke has six tomoes - his own three and Itachi's three - they are a sign of EMS. No, six tomoes weren't what allowed his ninjutsu to work on Madara, it was the moon seal.
Obito got glimpses out of Kakashi's sharingan before awakening his MS, it's clear the two eyes are connected by chakra somehow when they're close to each other. That's how Kakashi's sharingan turned to MS - Kakashi doesn't have the biology to produce the required special chakra to evolve the eyes, it was Obito all along, transmitting it into his other eye.
This video was a massive disappointment.
I don't think the cells would matter because it's heavily implied Ashura is no longer with Hashirama after he died, his chakra would not be on those cells, only Hashirama's own chakra. It would have to be Naruto's cells for that to work.
Even if that worked though it doesn't matter when Sasuke is receiving chakra directly from Hagoromo, there's no need to mix anything.
@@LealFireball that's the retarded take that always makes me angry. Why would his chakra change is beyond me, it's not Hashirama's+Ashura's chakra, it's Hashirama's chakra being identical to Ashura's. How and why would it suddenly change everywhere (in all the forests he created and every cell left behind) just because he died. Your body adapts to chakra and that in turn influences your chakra. Naruto was exposed to Kyubi chakra before birth and got his whiskers, he would've been a pseudo-jinchuuriki anyway even without Kurama. Kinkaku-Ginkaku were similarly changed and didn't suddenly lose Kurama"s chakra after death. Indra's six paths yin chakra is generated by mind/soul/spirit/brain, you don't see Madara thinking different just because Indra got to Sasuke, Madara didn't lose his six paths yin. So Hashirama wouldn't lose his six paths yang generated by his body.
What I wouldn't give to eradicate this stupid take of somehow losing six paths chakra for some reason.
The Rinnegan becoming your base eye is way cooler of an explanation than it not being able to turn it off
Hagaromo: "I used my God power creation of all things to make you an eye that has the exponential power of both Sharingan and Rinnegan. Switching between the two will not be necessary.
Sasuke: "Thanks ninja god there isn't some weird catch that your godly powers can't overcome like a constant charkra drain that may kill me if I get too tired right?
Hagaromo: *Sweating profusely* "Well got to go, God stuff to do!"
You do realize Hagaromo is really not an god but somewhat you can say a god saying creation of all things is cap He is no where near creation of all things like shibai if you ever gotten in boruto which further explains shibai you would know.
In the original idea of Kishimito i think Sasuke can't have rinnesharingan permanetly. In the Sarada manga spinoff you can see the tomoe switched off, then Sasuke say a thing like "oh now i feel my powers back" and the tomoe reappers. So that's it, the rinnesharingan sleeping state is just a normal rinnegan without tomoe
I think the simplest explanation to Kakashi awakening the mangekyo sharingan is that if the special uchiha chakra is already in the eye (i.e sharingan already activated), it will only need the emotion to react with and become a mangekyo eye. If this is true, anyone can awaken a mangekyo but only uchihas can do so while the eye is deactivated (it would force the eye to activate I'd guess).
As far as Sasuke's rinnegan goes, I think he can't deactivate it because the dojutsu isn't his, It's his eye but the Rinnegan isn't an uchiha dojutsu, it's an otsutsuki dojutsu. So even though the physical eye isn't Hagoromo's eye it is using a dojutsu that the eye isn't made for, so while Sasuke has Hagoromo's chakra within him it works fine. It's the same principle that lets Kakashi use Obito's sharingan at max capacity with his own eyes without any problems as long as Obito's chakra is still within Kakashi's body.
Madara's chakra became like Hagoromo's when he mixed the brothers' chakra so he didn't have this problem since he's also producing it all the time. He is essentially hagoromo and when he absorbs the divine tree he is essentially kaguya which in turn unlocks her rinnesharingan, and maybe even her byakugan?
Nagato's chakra reserve is just cracked I guess 🤷
Kakashi couldn't use obito ms at max capacity tho, his kamui took way too long and I think there's a scene where they both use it together and it makes the long range kamui even faster
@papasweed.dispenseria5977 Was referring to when obito's chakra was within him, in the Kaguya fight.
The 2nd Hokage got one thing slighly wrong about the Sharingan:
- It's the EYE that's important: the eye itself is what's responsible for leaking the "special kind of chakra" that causes the mutations,
- But ONLY AN UCHIHA (their brain, CNS, etc.) can properly harness the Sharingan (including activating and deactivating it).
Occam's Razor! 🧠🧠
For Kakashi awakening the MS, I think that's what the scene where Obito was able to see brief glimpses through Kakashi's eye was to imply. If Obito could see moments through Kakashi being near him, Obito awakening the MS next to Kakashi would also awaken the other one.
I mean the Hokage were reanimated from Zetsu clones so they do have Hashirama cells
11:17 I think the mangekyou sharingan chakra that allows u to awaken the ms comes with the sharingan in the eye itself, so when kakashi awoke it, the eye itself released a certain type of chakra to the brain, which then activated the mangekyou
Btw Sasuke was right, world piece was achieved by sasuke literally annoying everyone as a memeber of the akatatsuki, if everyone had to hate sasuke they would want to become strong enough to beat him, and considering his power at the time, he would never lose, he'd basically just make everyone try to become stronger without the massive amounts of deaths brought on by war.
Would ppl just give up after a while when they realized they can't beat him, based on politics/governmental systems that I've seen and the way psychology works, there's no way ppl who all come together and be all peaceful and train together to fight man and Naruto kinda did this in the 4th Ninja war by having everyone come together agasint a common enemy but sasuke didn't like this and wanted his ways
Sasuke would have had to keep killing a lot of people for people to consider him worth attacking as an enemy, otherwise they would just be fighting a god for no reason and eventually give up. Peace acquired through continued murder of innocents is not ideal. It was also so dumb because Sasuke could have at least given the world a chance to be peaceful now that they had united vs akatsuki.
@@DiamonDust That's true but simply doing that is more efficient, and although people would likely have to die he did say he was gonna kill all the kage and Naruto if he tried to stop him, so if he kills Naruto and the five kage everyone will hate him, but he'll probably try to make it constantly look like there's hope to attack him but you make a hood point and considering the fact that I don't know what he would have done i can't say what would happen so id say you're right about that but even so he only really cares to kill Naruto and the kage, then after that he's still achieving peace. But my main point was actually that he was right because of the akatsuki, they are exactly what he planned to be. Peace was achieved through this almost unstoppable evil force, and sasuke initially became an enemy helping start that war through the idea of killing the guy that's basically the raikage's brother
@@cursedrax5439 The Akatsuki indirectly helped create world peace by people uniting against them, but if the Akatsuki already achieved that accidentally then Sasuke doesn’t need to do that too. This was the first allied shinobi force in history and peace looked very promising, Sasuke was just overly pessimistic and had no faith that the peace would last long. He could have waited to see if it lasted then just became a “villain” later. It didn’t have to happen right then. Or he could just not be a dick lol. You don’t kill people just cause something might fail.
@@DiamonDust True, but if feel like he's going for something more, he wants everyone to see him and think, I need to be stronger, rather than actual peace, think about it, children in the waring states period were stronger, and so if everyone has nothing to fight for they won't train as hard but if sasuke the terrible criminal who killed all world leaders as well as the greatest hero of the world and his so called best friend is out there they are more likely to train hard, plus sasuke sees the kage as bad people for allowing corruption, he doesn't care about them.
2:00 Kabuto granted him Hashirama cells when he was treating the dead sasuke.
Thank you!! Someone who actually paid attention
@@KrimsonKage yeah, I was pretty surprised that no one noticed it. It's the same for Naruto as well. Obito specifically stole 1 and 8 tails chakra from madara to give it to naruto
Thanks for commenting. This youtuber is dumb. Probably a newbie narutard. He literally missed the most important element of Sasuke's rinnegan awakening.
Correction: @ 10:18 the explanation about the Uchiha awakening the Sharingan through emotional experiences changing the eyes is about the regular Sharingan, not the Mangekyo.
It's both
Did you forget that kabuto also gave Sasuke hashirama cells during the talk with the sage of six paths
Can Sasuke defeats Thor MCU easily?
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Nah
No 😂
Yes,
if energy and chakra are treated as the same thing or even more specifically if Lightning chakra is treated as Thor’s Lightning then Preta Path absorbs it.
Therefore Thor’s attacks only strengthen Sasuke.
Sasuke is also the best Lightning User in the NarutoVerse so he can block Thor’s Lightning with chidori like kakashi blocked Kakuzu’s Lightning or use Kirin to direct the Cumulonimbus clouds that Thor create with mjolnir.
Turning Thor’s attack against him.
Sasuke also can rip out Thor’s soul if he can touch him.
Deva Path negates Thor’s hand to hand combat. EMS/Six Tomoe Sharingan also gives Sasuke the upper hand in combat and if Thor manages to get off an attack that could kill Sasuke.
Sasuke can use Amenotejikara and switch his place with Thor’s.
Yes
Well, the thing is, what makes you think you can deactivate rinnegan in the first place? I don't think I have seen anyone do it before. You are welcome to correct me.
That filler which caused hagoromo to awakened the rinnegan is justifiable tho since he is the son of the rabbit godess that ate the chakra fruit after all.. awakening it will be easier..
If memory serves me right, when Madara was lying on the ground dying right before the Naruto and Sasuke rematch, he had his Rinnegan deactivated. He had normal eyes as he laid there. Does that mean he can deactivate them, or was that just a weird result of him passing away?
BTW, whenever I decide to watch the series again, I'm going to skip the entire Kaguya part and go right to Madara's death scene, pretending that Naruto and Co. defeated him in some off screen fight. It makes the finale so much better, which is sad.
They were his natural eyes. Probs the same thing that happens to sasuke when he runs low.
I wish Sasuke used Ashura path to make a mechanized replacement arm. Imagine him fighting with sword in one arm while the other transforms to different weapons or projectiles.
You mean serval extra arms, and even more tendrils and weapons. jet shoes, also tendo to boost lfy speed and pull/push more. Ripp out souls, revive and restore bodies..summon serval useful animals. Extract information. And more and more.
Guess they realized the Rinnegan in the hands of a protagonist is to much of a cheat code. It was cool with pain but to easy for Sasuke to easily solve so many issues.
15:08 If the Rinnegan and the Sharingan act as two different modes for the original user, the Sharingan can already naturally be deactivated when you're the original user so that would explain why Madara could still access his original deactivated eyes through the Sharingan mode but could not through the Rinnegan mode cause that's just how the Rinnegan looks at all time. Therefore, the Rinnegan itself still couldn't be deactivated. And it's seems to stay coherent with all the characters with Rinnegans we've seen until this point. Even in the few scenes with Hagoromo, he never seems to deactivate it and it's his own Rinnegans. That could imply the Rinnegan are still always activated but it just doesn't visually appears as such when the user switches to Sharingans.
Oh my god, it's because Sasuke gets to use the sharinngan and Rinnegan, duel special eyes, something no rinnegan user can do.
Obito used dual eyes, though the rinnegan wasn't special (it was still real and he even created 6 paths.)
Fun fact: During Sasuke's first appearance in The Last (not when he destroyed the meteor, but when wandered through the wasteland), he has a deactivated Rinnegan.
The reason Sasuke couldn't turn off his Rinnegan was probably that he didn't awake it
It was give to him by Hogoromo
What's weird is they said sasuke can't deactivate his rinnegan yet when we first see sasuke in "The Last: Naruto movie" when you pause the movie soon as the astroid passes over him his left eye doesn't have the rinnegan activated
Its sad that most of Naruto and Sasukes power isnt really theirs. Naruto cheats using Kurama and Sasuke uses someone elses eyes, from Itachi's to this magic Rinnegan that got magiced into him lol.
To be fair, I don't really see it as cheating as Naruto had to deal with controlling Kurama, yes, it is a power he got thanks to Kurama, but it was him basically beating the shit out of Kurama to actually get his power
It would be like saying JubiDara isn't his power because he is a 10 tails Jinchuriki, but the 10 tails even exist because of what Madara Did
@@NighstarLayla thats also a lame powerup lol. Thats why Hashirama is the best, bro is just built different. What Madara did to me is like a boxer losing a fight, so he goes and gets a gun to shoot the boxer that beat him 😂
@@JayEm1325 but Hashirama did nothing for his powers
He was born with them
There really isn't more difference between Hashirama's absurd chakra and wood release and Naruto Having Kurama
They both got it at birth
Is something broken that almost nobody else has
And it just works
At least Naruto had issues with it but Hashirama was born with his absurd powers, I honestly think that's a lot more lame than Madara and Naruto having to work for his power ups by taming Tail beast
Most of it is though. Naruto only had half of Kurama(with Sasuke's Susanoo armor) and still managed to fight against Juubi Obito who completely decimated Hashirama. Meanwhile Hashirama beat Madara with the full Kyuubi.
Same situation with the final fight at the Valley of the End. Sasuke had half of Kurama and the other 8 bijuu yet still couldn't beat Naruto.
In both situations, Naruto had to make up the power difference.
@@NightBat-vc5jx To me Toad Sage Naruto is the peak in terms of my preferred powerups. Thats just Naruto being a badass and gaining insane strength on his own. Kurama is just like having your buddy gang up on whoever you want to fight, its not really his power just some external help and I personally dont find that very compelling. Sasuke is even worse dude just has magic eyeballs that somehow make up the difference between no tailed beast and having a tailed beast. I love this anime why else would I be commenting on this but I alw3ays found it annoying that the MCs godly strength isnt really theirs. I know Naruto would still be a beast in-universe without Kurama though. For Madara usually bad guys do that, they go on some quest for power and get it so him getting his final form power through external means is ok, I dont love it but I can accept it for a villain, for the good guys though? Irritates me. I like the good old training to get stronger thing rather than "wo this guy showed up and now Im stronk" lol
I'm not sure if this was mentioned but when sasuke and naruto were on the brink of death kabuto arrived to give sasuke hashirama cells to heal him while narutos heart was manually being pumped by Sakura. Then they arrived in the sage's realm to recieve 6 paths power
The six tomoe rinnegan represent a rinnegan and an EMS
@DygoKnight interesting theories except that it doesn't make sense for Sasuke to have tomoes in his rinnegan because of six paths chacra if the literal sage of six paths was never shown to activate tomoes in his own rinnegan when using six paths chakra. And by that same logic, Sasuke's rinnegan could not be Hagoromo's rinnegan. On a separate note, I find it curious that when Sasuke was low on chakra (in Boruto's anime at least) he would loose the tomoes on his rinnegan.
0:05 Urashiki's Rinnegan also has tomoe. Earlier variations of the Jūbu also have a tomoe Rinnegan, which is not quite to the level of the RInne-Sharingan. The Rinne-Sharingan is actually called a Rinnegan in the manga. Sasuke says the Infinite Tsukuyomi is a genjutsu cast of the Rinnegan, for example.
0:30 He is shown with it off in The Last, though that was probably a design error.
1:49 Hagoromo himself said it was their inner psyche. Hagoromo did not give Naruto or Sasuke their powers. They already had the potential for it, and if they did not, Hagoromo would have done nothing. He coaxed out and formed their powers, which they would have eventually gotten on their own.
4:20 Sasuke also got Hashirama's cells from Kabuto as he was being healed right before Hagoromo appeared, so he met the conditions either way.
7:15 The tomoe represents the Sharingan underneath his Rinnegan. When he taxes it, the tomoe disappear and presumably he cannot cast Mangekyō jutsu from that eye until they return. He is shown regaining a Mangekyō in his other eye at the same time as his Rinnegan tomoe, indicating the two are comparable in relation to visual prowess, so it is essentially a fused eye.
7:35 The Onyx Chidori is actually a result of the Six Paths Yin Power from the Moon Seal, not the Rinnegan, he lost the Moon Seal after sealing Kaguya, yet obviously the Rinnegan remains. It is likely this seal, only on his left side, which influenced the Rinnegan on that side of his body, hence him only having the one (rather than any limitations on Hagoromo).
9:50 Actually, it is just Uchiha eyes that function like that. Ao can turn his Byakugan on or off.
10:55 It is the power awakened from getting the abilities of both eyes, not simply having both eyes. Sasuke did not fully develop Kagutsuchi until the Gokage Kaidan, at which point, the Susanoo manifested. Obviously, neither Kakashi nor Obito can develop the abilities in the other eye they do not have, so Itachi's explanation does not conflict. Every Mangekyō awakening is shown paired, as well.
11:10 Probable, given they even were sharing sight, psychically. During the war, Kakashi could even see and hear through Obito despite the fact they were in a different dimension from each other, so the Sharingan are linked in that way.
11:50 This is still wrong. Danzō was able to switch from three tomoe to Mangekyō in Shisui's eye, which was already Mangekyō when he transplanted it. Seems like it is just up to the transplantee, or Danzō gained sufficient control over it due to Hashirama cells.
15:00 The Rinnegan itself actually amplifies chakra, which probably negates the chakra drain. Even still, Sasuke's seems to potentially take more than it gives back, since he does actually cover it behind his hair. Might be that fusing it is what caused it to be permanent (even when drained), and also take more to keep up. Unlikely it is directly to do with Hagoromo, though, since Hagoromo was not really the one who awakened it. It is stated to be Sasuke's, though, as I doubt Hagoromo had the unique teleportation ability (in fact, unique Rinnegan abilities can be used by a transplantee, as neither Nagato nor Obito could use Limbo).
My thesis was always that because haguromo stated that he originally planned to pass hid power to both of his children(mabe thats filler or i rember wrong ). So I think the way he awakend his rinnegan he didn’t need ashuras chakra.
I'm glad you pointed out the scene with Hashirama giving Sasuke his Chakra which kind prove my argument, Naruto benefited way more than Sasuke during the meeting with Hagoromo. It's safe to assume that Sasuke would've eventually awakened the Rinnegan without Hagoromo.
Question: When Madara met Obito in the cave he was using some other Uchiha's eyes, did he ever deactivate them? Can an Uchiha deactivate the eyes of another Uchiha? Clearly if they're brothers hey can hence EMS but it wouldn't surprise me if he couldn't. Could Madara unlock Mangekyo with someone else's eyes?
I feel like these eyes react to chakra released by strong emotion which, according to Tobirama, the Uchiha feel the most sort of. But if you're NOT Uchiha but still go through the emotions you can unlock it yourself. It's weird since Obito is later shown to transfer chakra through space and time but I'm just speculating. I'm sure Kakashi unlock it on his own hence he can deactivate it.
My theory regarding the six paths powers is that Hagoromo didn’t physically give them the powers, just a small fraction of his own Chakra for the seal, but them being Indra and Ashura reincarnates combined with the special circumstances they died in all came together to create a mishmash of various six-paths abilities that manifested depending on which incarnate they were.
Naruto only had access to 8 1/2 of the tailed beasts’ chakra, but once Minato put the other half of the Nine tails in him he officially had all 9 tailed beasts complete and was able to do some of the techniques of the ten tails, though not anywhere near the level of the actual ten tails’ jinchuuriki. The Sage mode buff came from mixing the Nature energy affinity the nine-tails had with that little bit of Hagoromo’s Chakra, and the cloak is most likely his own doing, but the ashura reincarnation chakra caused the cloak to resemble Ashura.
Sasuke was stabbed in the heart, but was revived by Kabuto, whose healing powers come from being almost entirely made of Hashirama’s cells. I presume that to heal Sasuke, he infused a bit of his own DNA to give him crazy healing specifically in his heart. It was barely any, though, so mixing that very minuscule bit of synthetic Hagoromo chakra with the buff from the moon chakra may have created a botched Rinnegan evolution, resulting in in only one rinnegan that he’s unable to turn off due to an incomplete evolution process. The cool new powers and tomoe most likely come from the adding of six paths chakra during the evolution process, which also explains how he awakened it so quickly.
doesn't the borrowed eye thing break the whole concept of the ems? though, it could be said that non uchihas can't deactivate the sharingan?
What if one 6 tomoe Rinengan is equal in power to two normal Rinnegan but not functionality
I’d love to see a video on what if all of the akatsuki fought together I don’t believe anybody has made one yet
1:16 I'm really glad that this was before 2020 because if that chapter was released today " implanting hashirama cells " would mean something sus
About Kakashi's mangekyo one theory could be a recall from the end of the series. Kakashi of the double sharingan. Obito gave his eyes from literally other side to kakashi which implies in the world of Naruto theres always a higher dimension the spiritual dimension. We can simply say that when both Obito and Kakashi saw Rin die their eyes just connected on spiritual realm and turned to mangekyo at the same time.
I think Оbito's MS was somehow activated shortly before his "death" under the rocks, maybe when he was crushed but he hadn't given the eye to Kakashi yet. And he used it instinctively for the first time. That's why he "slipped" into Madara's cave instead of just dying under the rock.
The part of needing indra and ashura chakra, I've always thought of it like you need both of those to recreate or emulate hagoromo's chakra which is a requirement for awakening the rinnengan
I think i have explanation how Nagato uses "his" rinnegan 24/7:
1.He is uzumaki clan so he has massive chakra reserves;
2.His right is closed by hair , you can see that in this vid ;
3.Even tho he is uzumaki , he probably trained alot to have passive chakra regeneration , so it counters rinnegan consumption
Those are all reasons i could've thought of
Before I finish watching, my own 2 cents is that MS is basically the equivalent of a 4 tomoe sharingan, EMS is 5 tomoe, and Rinnegan is 6 tomoe. Him having 6 tomoe might be an equivalent of him having 2 rinnegan (6+6=12 quick maffs), but instead of on 2 eyes, it's just on one. Since the series is symbolic of yin and yang, the powers for Sasuke imbued on to his left side with the moon seal included, and Naruto's S6P powers imbuing more towards his right side. Since the Rinnegan was awakened through Hagoromo's chakra, it didn't awaken with the use of his own body like it did in Madara's case (or maybe it did awaken with Hashirama's help but Hagoromo's input created the tomoe within it), and since Sasuke is an Uchiha the drain isn't noticeable to him as opposed to if he wasn't, coupled with the fact his chakra reserve is top-tier.
One thing that put me in mind is that all three of the characters experienced death to awaken this power. The first was Hagoromo who awakened it by killing his brother plus awakening his Rinnegan after mastering sage art, the connection of life energy all around us. This makes sense since the divine tree from Naruto is made by sucking up all life force energy in order to make the fruit from the tree. The second is that Naruto and Sasuke both had chakra of each other inside them, please mind how they got it from, and called forth Hagoromo and acquired the power of the sage paths. Madara was on the verge of death with both clans chakra inside them making the Rinnegan appear at the last minute. If anything they are related when the last person is close to death.
My guess is that Sasuke's tomoes are from the prior form of his Sharingan, 3 from the base form and 3 from the Mangekyo or EMS. I'm probably getting a little bit ahead of myself, and it probably sounds dumb, but maybe how Mangekyo works is just adding three additional tomoes onto the 3-tomoe Sharingan, but they fused together and shaped differently into what Mangekyos look like. And adding those prior forms' tomoes onto Rinnegan is what makes Sasuke able to use the prior forms' abilities while Rinnegan is opened
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Serious question: how did Madara give Nagato 2 working eyes, when he used a time-delayed Izanagi on himself to fake his death, sacrificing and blinding that one eye? He should only have had one eye while he was alive, going forward.
Did he just steal a random Uchiha's sharingan to replace it? Did the Hashirama cells restore it? Does awakening a Rinnegan restore the use of blinded eyes? Did Kishimoto just forget?
It's perfect for hunting for dinosaurs tho sasuke did a good job hunting dinosaurs
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't the ten tails also possess a 6 tomoe rinnegan? I was under the impression that only Madara and Kaguya possessed rinne-sharingans.
Not gonna lie, i really hope instead of youtubers placing assumption, theories and suggestions of naruto's world building and things revolving it, why not Kishimoto himself gives explanation in certain issues in Q&A. Other big 3 like One piece and Bleach have their own Q&A , where fans can pitch questions about the series and the mangaka themselves will select and answer the questions .
i could be wrong but i feel like the reason kakashi is able to awaken mangekyo while not being an uchiha is its probably more likely that the eyes themselves react to whatever traumatic event to awaken and its not like something special with uchiha bodies or chakra
No nagato was hooked up to the geto statue that was funneling chakra into him. And Obito had hashirama cells which also let him have higer pools of chakra plus the rinnegan and absorb chakra so i wouldn’t think it would be above Obito to do that during the war arc. He even got hooked up to the statue for a while during the war too so he didn’t need to deactivate it