Often overlooked, but usually always seen is the City isn't just a backdrop, but also through it's various socioeconomic machinations nearly a character as well.
It’s Important to remember that Film Noir wouldn’t be a genre if German Expressionism never existed. Film Noir takes all it’s lighting fundamentals directly from German Expressionism. There’s a very rich history between the two that go beyond lighting, staging, set design, style etc… *Edit* - I just got to the section where you mentioned German Expressionism! This makes me so happy.
My Favorites Film Noir Movies : -The Third Man (1949) -The Falcon Maltese (1941) -The Big Sleep (1946) -Crossfire (1947) -Sunset Boulevard (1950) -Touch of Evil (1958) -The Night of the Hunter (1955) -M (1931) -Cape Fear (1962) -The Godfather (1972) -Chinatown (1974) -Taxi Driver (1976) -Blade Runner (1982) -Angel Heart (1987) -The Silence of the Lambs (1991) -Cape Fear (1991) -Basic Instinct (1992) -Se7en (1995) -The Usual Suspects (1995) -Sin City (2005)
I love a good neo-noir /noir in colour too, Seven, Chinatown, Rear Window, The Long Goodbye, Blade Runner, Taxi Driver and so many more are my favourite films.
"It has always been easier to recognize a film noir than to define the term." Noir is a state of mind. An unconscious one at that, since it wasn't even a "thing" until French critics gave a name to the surprisingly dark tone in American films they noticed when they suddenly were able to see what had been withheld from them during the Nazi occupation (1940-1944). It's not a genre, or a setting or a style. There are noir films set in the city and the country, in the American west and Old Europe and outer space, in semi-documentary styles and in surreal fantasy worlds. Noir is more of a feel or an attitude than anything else, which makes it harder to pin down. And though many say Orson Welles' Expressionistic "Touch of Evil" (1959) marked the end of that first cycle, it's never gone away...
While my writing is on the page and not for the screen, this channel has been invaluable in helping to understand so much about the building blocks and nuances of storytelling. Grateful for what you do!
Since video games were mentioned, "L.A. Noire" is a great example of such a game (music, plot etc...), as for movies I found "dark city" giving a very noir vibe while missing many elements as also mentioned in the video. Great video as always!
Film Noir are one of my Favorite and one of the Most Inspiring Film Genres in Cinema History. Thanks StudioBinder for explaining it. Very Inspiring and Useful to understand. Best Continuation to come.
@@StudioBinder StudioBinder. If you allow me a suggestion. With the Movie Nosferatu (2024) remake from Robert Eggers, it will be Great to talk about German Expressionism Cinema.
Noir is a genre. Each genre runs on a particular emotion: Drama - empathy, Thriller - tension, Horror - fear, Action - mechanical aesthetics. So each Noir i think is based on loneliness and despair. Therefore its a genre? Cus style is only a visual wrap, it doesn't affect the film's core emotion/meaning.
I think nior is both. And I think that's why it touches our souls so greatly, because it's uniquely intimate in visual and dialog. Hence, it is style AND genre.
One fun thing to mention is the jazz score stereotype, which is actually a more modern thing that came from TV and then became a stereotype with parodies. The old noir movies used to have standard classical music like any other movie of the time.
I love film noir, even though I still have plenty of movies to see. I love the "pessimistic" mood that you mentioned at the beginning. Also, for those black and white films, I love the dramatic lighting and scenes. Sometimes the rainy moments are just captivating to listen to besides watch. I'll have to watch the rest of this tomorrow! :D
For us in Africa, West Africa, to be specific, Sierra Leone per-say. Film noir is not only a style but also a genre of conventions that expresses the whole story ideation and technically it execute more of emotion that encompasses the director's vision, because in film not all that talk about hate but we express emotion base on moral standard lessons in our African stories.
I was wondering when you will including Spider Noir reference for the whole video, until the end, haha. What a happy ending for a genre or style or both which never has a happy ending =)))
"Noir is about the crimes you already got away with. " - if I remember the quote correctly it's by Mikey Neumann from FilmJoy or Movies with Mikey (which everyone should watch)
For a holiday fantasy movie, I've always thought of It's a Wonderful Life as being a noir film. It's so dark in parts and in the middle, it is so hopeless.
The Third Man is my favorite, still. There are a lot of movies in this style (or genre) that I like, including the neo-noirs. I think it speaks to me because of the grit, the harshness, and the mystique. For some reason, I do not see them as having sad endings, but more realistic.
I've been researching noir since a very long time. But it still seems very complicated to me. But my opinion is, it's both a style and a genre. But it's always up to a director, which kind of approach he likes to proceed.
i think its pretty simple. there are styles/tones within each genre. mystery would be the genre, and film noir would be the style/tone in the mystery genre. and there are mysteries that are not film noir but there is no film noir that is not a mystery
I'd say genre, as there are films that absolutely qualify from the classic noir era that are photographed in color, and/or already play with the tropes and subvert them.
@StudioBinder I'd say it's much more than that, especially with archetypes: Batman was deliberately portrayed more than ever as the noir detective; then you have catwoman as the femme fatale and other similar masques
Its both. I would say that there is a film noir genre, with full blooded film noir movies but that it’s also possible as a filmmaker to use film noir as a style in your movie that isn’t really a film noir. So I would say it’s both.
I see film noir as a style that can be used in any genre, usually involving crime. but crime does not have to be the main point--as in Sweet Small of Success or Sunset Boulevard.
Glad to see you mentioned Blood Simple. A great film. Also, Robert Mitchum was a great bad guy and an icon of Film Noir. He's very scary in Night of the Hunter and was magnificent as Max Cady in the original Cape Fear.
I would describe Film Noir as a style that became recognized, and then crystalized into a genre. Classic noir films weren't really aiming to be genre films, they just followed certain trends that were popular at the time. More recent films like Chinatown and Sin City definitely aim for a specific genre. It's also interesting how many elements we typically associate with noir weren't really common in classic noir films in the first place, like a jazz saxophone for background music.
MY SAVIOURS! I'm easing my near future Call of Cthulhu campaign into a noir scenario this weekend and was kind of panicking about that. So this is truly perfect timing! Your videos are teaching me so much about writing as a craft, I really appreciate that you put these up for free. ❤
As soon as Bohren and der club Gore were playing I knew I'd enjoy this. One of my favourite genres. I used to listen to Sunset Mission while on the subway, and I would act like Sherlock, trying to deduce people's lives. Honestly reccomend everyone to do this once, it's so fun!
@@StudioBinder You shouldn't! I cannot watch videos when there is not a regular voiceover artist narrating. He carries 60% of the video. I can't watch this video. I know most of the people don't care, but I do.
Film Noir: The good guys aren't all that good; the bad guys are really bad; and everybody gets what they deserve in the end -- except for the innocent, who suffer.
Film Noir is my favorite film genre, and I'm squarely in the genre camp. For my own movie lists, I separated them by era and style. Maybe this is useful. Classic Noir: 1930-1960: high contrast B/W, classic movies (The Big Sleep, The Stranger, the Third Man, ...) Historical Noir: 1960- present: pastel color, nostalgic tones; stories are set in previous eras (Chinatown, Miller's Crossing, L.A. Confidential, ...) Retro Noir: 1990-present: High contrast B/W, mimic the aesthetics of classic noir (The Man Who Wasn't There, The Good German, Sin City, ...) Neo Noir: 1960-present: contemporary film techniques, contemporary stories (Klute, The Long Goodbye, Brick, Heat, Gone Baby Gone, ... ) Future Noir: 1980-present: cyberpunk, off-world, time travel (Blade Runner, Robocop, Total Recall, Looper, The Matrix, Gattaca, ...) Serial Killers: 1970-present (Dirty Harry, Silence of the Lambs, Natural Born Killers, Se7en, Zodiac, ...)
That's something which RUclips decides whether or not to give option of downloading a video for free without YT premium. Creators have nothing to do with it
i do not think the night of the hunter is a film noir. its aesthetic owes itself to the American silent film tradition at least as much as the film noir tradition, and it has many central points that are just not film noir. For instance, the main characters are kids, whereas film noir pretty much doesn't involve children at all.
Wait, why did you credit Cyberpunk 2077 to a RUclips video creator? That's like someone crediting you instead of the movie while showing the same two seconds from Alphaville.
It's interesting because I liked noir before I knew what it was. I remember as a kid I watched Blade Runner and while I didn't get the story I loved the visual style. Then over the years I found myself drawn to films that had a similar kind of visual style and thematical elements.
@ I’ll give you my argument along the lines laid out in the video. First other than being in B&W, the esthetic is fairly common for a 40’s movie. Very few scenes have the light and shadow of a film noir. It also doesn’t make the city a character. It is mostly interior well lit scenes and feels more like a stage play than an any film noir I’ve seen. Laura, herself, is not a femme fatale. She is actually an innocent that is being mentally and emotionally abused by a sociopath. She is a good person from beginning to end. The detective never waivers in his performance of duty no matter his feelings for Laura. In true film noir he would have been ruined by his attraction. He would not have had the happy ending even though he might have solved the case. He wasn’t shady or underhanded or corrupt in any way. Film noirs are also filled with secondary characters that are morally and ethically challenged. The closest here was Vincent Price and he is more a fop than a dangerous character. Waldo, while brilliantly acted, is just a standard issue sociopath, who thinks he is the smartest man in the room. While manipulative, he is not really physically dangerous. He actually screwed up his one crime and killed the wrong person. This just played like a really good Broadway murder mystery. I love the movie, but i just can’t justify its inclusion in the Noir category either by style or genre. Even the music is lush. Like I said, I die on this hill every time someone lists it among the great Film Noir movies.
I always roll my eyes about your clip selections. Couldn't you show some clips as examples for your theories that are not out of place or embarrassing, like the ridiculed Blade Runner voice-over, Branagh's Poirot, or modern neo-noir instead of classics from the '40s and '50s? Otherwise good commentary.
I just want to emphasize for you that as the first person who saw your nonsense and reacted, you had a “dislike” before getting any “likes”. The Hayes Code, among other problems, encouraged all sorts of bigotry. Under it, you couldn’t depict things like an interracial couple or even have characters who were LGBTQ+ (implicitly or explicitly.) By saying you want to bring the Hayes Code back, I have no choice but to assume you are a bigot in some direction or another, or are completely clueless about what the Hayes Code actually allowed. So I leave it to you- am I disliking this comment because you’re a bigot, or because you’re an idiot?
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Often overlooked, but usually always seen is the City isn't just a backdrop, but also through it's various socioeconomic machinations nearly a character as well.
You're right, the city as a character is huge in these movies.
Perfect timing on this video. I'm currently re-editing The Batman (2022) into a film noir version. I absolutely love this style.
Is there a way we can watch the finished product?
Subbed but please drop a notification when done, would love to watch it
Can you briefly explain what's your approach to doing the re edit?
Very cool! Yeah, let us know when it's done.
No hate intended but was it not already kind of a noir?
It’s Important to remember that Film Noir wouldn’t be a genre if German Expressionism never existed. Film Noir takes all it’s lighting fundamentals directly from German Expressionism. There’s a very rich history between the two that go beyond lighting, staging, set design, style etc…
*Edit* - I just got to the section where you mentioned German Expressionism! This makes me so happy.
I think that film noir is both a genre AND a style,which function EXACTLY because of this mixed aesthetic with themes.
That's a fair point!
My Favorites Film Noir Movies :
-The Third Man (1949)
-The Falcon Maltese (1941)
-The Big Sleep (1946)
-Crossfire (1947)
-Sunset Boulevard (1950)
-Touch of Evil (1958)
-The Night of the Hunter (1955)
-M (1931)
-Cape Fear (1962)
-The Godfather (1972)
-Chinatown (1974)
-Taxi Driver (1976)
-Blade Runner (1982)
-Angel Heart (1987)
-The Silence of the Lambs (1991)
-Cape Fear (1991)
-Basic Instinct (1992)
-Se7en (1995)
-The Usual Suspects (1995)
-Sin City (2005)
I love a good neo-noir /noir in colour too, Seven, Chinatown, Rear Window, The Long Goodbye, Blade Runner, Taxi Driver and so many more are my favourite films.
@@walterroux291 Angel Heart is a slepped on one also.
@@r.a.mpictures ooo I'll check that out tonight, most grateful.
All of them classics!
So agree with this list and the additions. The Third Man still holds magic for me.
"It has always been easier to recognize a film noir than to define the term." Noir is a state of mind. An unconscious one at that, since it wasn't even a "thing" until French critics gave a name to the surprisingly dark tone in American films they noticed when they suddenly were able to see what had been withheld from them during the Nazi occupation (1940-1944). It's not a genre, or a setting or a style. There are noir films set in the city and the country, in the American west and Old Europe and outer space, in semi-documentary styles and in surreal fantasy worlds. Noir is more of a feel or an attitude than anything else, which makes it harder to pin down. And though many say Orson Welles' Expressionistic "Touch of Evil" (1959) marked the end of that first cycle, it's never gone away...
Great points all around!
While my writing is on the page and not for the screen, this channel has been invaluable in helping to understand so much about the building blocks and nuances of storytelling. Grateful for what you do!
Since video games were mentioned, "L.A. Noire" is a great example of such a game (music, plot etc...), as for movies I found "dark city" giving a very noir vibe while missing many elements as also mentioned in the video. Great video as always!
Dark City is SOOO good!
YOU MADE A VIDEO ABOUT MY FAVORITE FILM GENRE!!!!!
We had to! Hope you enjoyed it.
No, they made a video about my favorite film style! :P
Film Noir are one of my Favorite and one of the Most Inspiring Film Genres in Cinema History. Thanks StudioBinder for explaining it. Very Inspiring and Useful to understand. Best Continuation to come.
Couldn't agree more!
@@StudioBinder StudioBinder. If you allow me a suggestion. With the Movie Nosferatu (2024) remake from Robert Eggers, it will be Great to talk about German Expressionism Cinema.
Noir is a genre. Each genre runs on a particular emotion: Drama - empathy, Thriller - tension, Horror - fear, Action - mechanical aesthetics.
So each Noir i think is based on loneliness and despair. Therefore its a genre? Cus style is only a visual wrap, it doesn't affect the film's core emotion/meaning.
I think nior is both. And I think that's why it touches our souls so greatly, because it's uniquely intimate in visual and dialog. Hence, it is style AND genre.
Well said!
Recently watched Chinatown and was intrigued about film noir, so this came at a perfect time.
Timing is our specialty!
One fun thing to mention is the jazz score stereotype, which is actually a more modern thing that came from TV and then became a stereotype with parodies. The old noir movies used to have standard classical music like any other movie of the time.
I love film noir, even though I still have plenty of movies to see. I love the "pessimistic" mood that you mentioned at the beginning. Also, for those black and white films, I love the dramatic lighting and scenes. Sometimes the rainy moments are just captivating to listen to besides watch. I'll have to watch the rest of this tomorrow! :D
For us in Africa, West Africa, to be specific, Sierra Leone per-say. Film noir is not only a style but also a genre of conventions that expresses the whole story ideation and technically it execute more of emotion that encompasses the director's vision, because in film not all that talk about hate but we express emotion base on moral standard lessons in our African stories.
Very interesting! Thanks for sharing.
Perfect timing, I’m doing an exam for media studies on this genre in a week, great job
Good luck!
@ thanks!
Noir is a Dark Gray Experience in Cinema that Reflect the Reality and Dreams of our Life's.
Good vid. I’m in the genre camp.
You're not alone!
To me, Film-Noir is a type of film that develops into a genre. In recent years, the same can be said about superhero films.
You might be right!
Film Noir was a genre but it became a style.
Hmm, good point!
Incredible ❤..loved the last bit 😂❤️👌
I was wondering when you will including Spider Noir reference for the whole video, until the end, haha. What a happy ending for a genre or style or both which never has a happy ending =)))
Had to save it for the end!
Great video.
Thanks!
Noir is one of my favorite genres and also my favorite style :)
We can't argue with that.
loved the Cyberpunk 2077 clip at the end
Thanks!
Hell yeah; love this genre.
Same!
Great great video❤
Thanks!
Always good videos
Glad you like them!
"Noir is about the crimes you already got away with. " - if I remember the quote correctly it's by Mikey Neumann from FilmJoy or Movies with Mikey (which everyone should watch)
Great quote!
"Aaranya kaandam" is the Greatest Neo-Noir film That came out of my coutnry. It's my all time Favourite 🇮🇳
Awesome! Thanks for sharing.
For a holiday fantasy movie, I've always thought of It's a Wonderful Life as being a noir film. It's so dark in parts and in the middle, it is so hopeless.
You can't definitely see the influence there.
The Third Man is my favorite, still. There are a lot of movies in this style (or genre) that I like, including the neo-noirs. I think it speaks to me because of the grit, the harshness, and the mystique. For some reason, I do not see them as having sad endings, but more realistic.
It's a classic!
I've been researching noir since a very long time. But it still seems very complicated to me. But my opinion is, it's both a style and a genre. But it's always up to a director, which kind of approach he likes to proceed.
2 seconds in and y’all are playing Bohren and Der Club of Gore. This is already legit
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i think its pretty simple. there are styles/tones within each genre. mystery would be the genre, and film noir would be the style/tone in the mystery genre. and there are mysteries that are not film noir but there is no film noir that is not a mystery
You make some good points!
4:56 The Host of Seraphim by Dead Can Dance... Great song on a great film.
Thanks for noticing!
Life is noir
Noir is life!
Genuinely surprised Cowboy Bebop wasn't mentioned, but loved seeing Cyberpunk referenced
Yeah, that's a good one! So many examples we had to exclude.
Grim Fandango would've been so much on topic here. Games, too, have scripts, direction, and production!
Regarding Noir films, an interesting subject to explore would be the nuances between the archetypes of the femme fatale and the spider woman.
I can't wait to apply this to film
That's great to hear!
You forgot about the jazz soundtrack that a film noir needs to have.
That's true. Music is definitely part of the experience.
I'd say genre, as there are films that absolutely qualify from the classic noir era that are photographed in color, and/or already play with the tropes and subvert them.
Good point!
I'm surprised you didn't include THe Batman (2022) in Film Noir's legacy
Yeah, that's a good example, especially visually.
@StudioBinder I'd say it's much more than that, especially with archetypes: Batman was deliberately portrayed more than ever as the noir detective; then you have catwoman as the femme fatale and other similar masques
It is not a style or genre; it is a vibe.
That's a thought!
To me, Film Noir is a genre, a heavily stylized one 😅
Makes sense!
apt & timely lol
thank you.
You're welcome!
Its both. I would say that there is a film noir genre, with full blooded film noir movies but that it’s also possible as a filmmaker to use film noir as a style in your movie that isn’t really a film noir. So I would say it’s both.
Well said!
Road to Perdition is the newest one I can think of.
Film Noir is a *genre* in which a protagonist is inserted in a world that requires a certain *style*.
TL;DR it’s both.
That's a good description.
I see film noir as a style that can be used in any genre, usually involving crime. but crime does not have to be the main point--as in Sweet Small of Success or Sunset Boulevard.
Great point!
Glad to see you mentioned Blood Simple. A great film. Also, Robert Mitchum was a great bad guy and an icon of Film Noir. He's very scary in Night of the Hunter and was magnificent as Max Cady in the original Cape Fear.
Blood Simple is legendary. And for a debut film? Incredible.
And, yeah, Mitchum is terrifying when he wants to be.
It’s both genre and a style, and neither. It’s in the grey in-between, with no neat conclusion. It’s about as meta you can get in the film space.
I would describe Film Noir as a style that became recognized, and then crystalized into a genre. Classic noir films weren't really aiming to be genre films, they just followed certain trends that were popular at the time. More recent films like Chinatown and Sin City definitely aim for a specific genre.
It's also interesting how many elements we typically associate with noir weren't really common in classic noir films in the first place, like a jazz saxophone for background music.
Perfect!!!
Thanks!
Scene writing part 2- like shot list type video where u show us full process .plz .😊
Ok, we'll look into it! Thanks for the suggestion.
Mr Studiobinder voice is gone 😢 but noir topic is excellent
Thanks and don't worry, Mr. StudioBinder will be back.
Flim Noir. Thank you for this lesson...film noir.
You're welcome!
MY SAVIOURS!
I'm easing my near future Call of Cthulhu campaign into a noir scenario this weekend and was kind of panicking about that. So this is truly perfect timing!
Your videos are teaching me so much about writing as a craft, I really appreciate that you put these up for free. ❤
This video does make a dent in
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As soon as Bohren and der club Gore were playing I knew I'd enjoy this. One of my favourite genres. I used to listen to Sunset Mission while on the subway, and I would act like Sherlock, trying to deduce people's lives. Honestly reccomend everyone to do this once, it's so fun!
A truly inspired choice by our editor.
I second this. Bohren playing in your ears while walking the city especially at night is an essential experience 😊
I’m going with style cause it can be applied in other genres
Fair point!
Thank you
You're welcome!
What happened to the guy with the cool voice? I hate when they change narrators
Nothing, we switch between them regularly.
@@StudioBinder You shouldn't! I cannot watch videos when there is not a regular voiceover artist narrating. He carries 60% of the video. I can't watch this video. I know most of the people don't care, but I do.
Quid pro quo Studiobinder.. Quid pro quo. U promiced me that u would add Dr Evil whereever u can, yet there is no mention of him this week. 😢
You didn't see him? Watch it again 😉
Film Noir: The good guys aren't all that good; the bad guys are really bad; and everybody gets what they deserve in the end -- except for the innocent, who suffer.
Bohren und der club of gore.
Nice.
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Film Noir is my favorite film genre, and I'm squarely in the genre camp. For my own movie lists, I separated them by era and style. Maybe this is useful.
Classic Noir: 1930-1960: high contrast B/W, classic movies (The Big Sleep, The Stranger, the Third Man, ...)
Historical Noir: 1960- present: pastel color, nostalgic tones; stories are set in previous eras (Chinatown, Miller's Crossing, L.A. Confidential, ...)
Retro Noir: 1990-present: High contrast B/W, mimic the aesthetics of classic noir (The Man Who Wasn't There, The Good German, Sin City, ...)
Neo Noir: 1960-present: contemporary film techniques, contemporary stories (Klute, The Long Goodbye, Brick, Heat, Gone Baby Gone, ... )
Future Noir: 1980-present: cyberpunk, off-world, time travel (Blade Runner, Robocop, Total Recall, Looper, The Matrix, Gattaca, ...)
Serial Killers: 1970-present (Dirty Harry, Silence of the Lambs, Natural Born Killers, Se7en, Zodiac, ...)
Excellent timeline! Love it.
Hey, why you dont allow your videos to be downloadable
That's something which RUclips decides whether or not to give option of downloading a video for free without YT premium. Creators have nothing to do with it
The other commenter is correct. It's out of our hands, unfortunately.
I think of film noir as style/aesthetic and/or setting, not genre.
You're not alone!
It seems that Western and Noir have a lot of overlap. What distinguishes them? Are they even different?
There might be some connections but those are very different categories.
i do not think the night of the hunter is a film noir. its aesthetic owes itself to the American silent film tradition at least as much as the film noir tradition, and it has many central points that are just not film noir. For instance, the main characters are kids, whereas film noir pretty much doesn't involve children at all.
Wait, why did you credit Cyberpunk 2077 to a RUclips video creator? That's like someone crediting you instead of the movie while showing the same two seconds from Alphaville.
True, we just wanted to give them a shoutout.
@StudioBinder Thank you for replying! Keep up the amazing work, it's unbelievable how much I learn from you.
Is David Lynch's Eraserhead film noir?
Visually, it definitely borrows and enhances the style. Plot-wise, there are some overlapping themes, maybe, but it's more abstract.
Why is there no mention of le samourai or pierre jean Melville
Aren't his films considered noir?
Sure, that's a good example. But there were a lot of movies we couldn't include.
I like ya, kid. You've got Moxie.. 🚬
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Crazy timing, I have a ticket for In a Lonely Place for today!
That's a great movie, enjoy it!
Is this narrator the same guy who occasionally does LoL videos for Skill capped gaming?
Don't think so but we can check.
I loved it, but I was expecting the posh accent guy on this video...
He'll be back!
And you didn't include better call saul
That's a good example.
Christmas came early. A video abour Film Noir opening with Bohren and Der Club of Gore's Prowler. Damn!
Merry Christmas! 🎄
BOHREN ❤
It's interesting because I liked noir before I knew what it was. I remember as a kid I watched Blade Runner and while I didn't get the story I loved the visual style.
Then over the years I found myself drawn to films that had a similar kind of visual style and thematical elements.
Solve the mystery of the missing British narrator
There's no mystery, we switch narrators regularly.
I die on this hill every time, but Laura is not film noir.
Why not? Not disagreeing but just curious what your take is.
@ I’ll give you my argument along the lines laid out in the video. First other than being in B&W, the esthetic is fairly common for a 40’s movie. Very few scenes have the light and shadow of a film noir. It also doesn’t make the city a character. It is mostly interior well lit scenes and feels more like a stage play than an any film noir I’ve seen. Laura, herself, is not a femme fatale. She is actually an innocent that is being mentally and emotionally abused by a sociopath. She is a good person from beginning to end. The detective never waivers in his performance of duty no matter his feelings for Laura. In true film noir he would have been ruined by his attraction. He would not have had the happy ending even though he might have solved the case. He wasn’t shady or underhanded or corrupt in any way. Film noirs are also filled with secondary characters that are morally and ethically challenged. The closest here was Vincent Price and he is more a fop than a dangerous character. Waldo, while brilliantly acted, is just a standard issue sociopath, who thinks he is the smartest man in the room. While manipulative, he is not really physically dangerous. He actually screwed up his one crime and killed the wrong person. This just played like a really good Broadway murder mystery. I love the movie, but i just can’t justify its inclusion in the Noir category either by style or genre. Even the music is lush. Like I said, I die on this hill every time someone lists it among the great Film Noir movies.
Me is the 1st guy 😂😂😂
You is the 1st guy?
Yay!!! For youse
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i like how americans pronounce it "No - R" haha. nice. I like films with no "R's" lol.
I’m American, but I’ve always pronounced it “New-R”. 🤷🏻♂️
I always try to say “nwar”
@lacolem1 this is correct 👌
Just wait until we get to "auteur theory"!
What movie is at 2:29? The one with the blonde right after "The Night of the Hunter" clip.
The Big Combo.
@@StudioBinder Thank you.
Bring back the Brit!
He'll be back, don't worry.
Bohren and der Club of Gore 🤌
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Trow-ma
Haha. We heard it, too!
Seems like a downer style. SF/
Yeah, they're not too bright and cheery!
Seven basic plot overview and examples.
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i guess The Batman (2022) is a noir
Probably neo-noir, because there are some other elements such as sci-fi in there.
I’d say Batman ‘89 is more stylistically noir
And definitely BTAS as well
Kinda, yeah, it certainly borrows most heavily from the aesthetic.
No mention of the music in noir films.
I can't buy any colour film as being noir.
I always roll my eyes about your clip selections. Couldn't you show some clips as examples for your theories that are not out of place or embarrassing, like the ridiculed Blade Runner voice-over, Branagh's Poirot, or modern neo-noir instead of classics from the '40s and '50s? Otherwise good commentary.
Alphaville is fake-noir, a truly horrible and over-rated movie.
Maybe Godard made it bad on purpose? We wouldn't put it passed him. 😏
I would like the code to come back. There is too much evil promotion in the modern cinema.
I just want to emphasize for you that as the first person who saw your nonsense and reacted, you had a “dislike” before getting any “likes”.
The Hayes Code, among other problems, encouraged all sorts of bigotry. Under it, you couldn’t depict things like an interracial couple or even have characters who were LGBTQ+ (implicitly or explicitly.)
By saying you want to bring the Hayes Code back, I have no choice but to assume you are a bigot in some direction or another, or are completely clueless about what the Hayes Code actually allowed.
So I leave it to you- am I disliking this comment because you’re a bigot, or because you’re an idiot?
Not sure we can help you there 🤔
Both, depending on the volume used. Today, genres are so mixed that finding any pure genre is impossible, excepting Hallmark Christmas films.😉
Haha. The only true genre left!