The Forger's Masterclass - Ep. 2 - Andre Derain

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  • Опубликовано: 26 мар 2012
  • Andre Derain's deceptively simple 'fauvist' style.

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  • @f7e8t9i3
    @f7e8t9i3 3 года назад +13

    He’s a very interesting character and due to his amazing sense of observation makes a great art teacher.

    • @common-girl
      @common-girl 3 года назад +1

      indeed, being a skilled forger helped.

  • @howardhill3395
    @howardhill3395 4 года назад +26

    "really a good painting is just a successful exploitation of a series of mistakes!" John Myatt Love this! Really there are no mistakes. Only learning.

  • @ShelleeGraham
    @ShelleeGraham 3 года назад +16

    I’ve seen two episodes and I’m hooked! Great series “The Forger’s Masterclass” with John Myatt, former art forgery painter. Myatt is an excellent narrator and teacher, both to the students and to the audience. Well Done! And Thank You.

    • @megmellas5871
      @megmellas5871 3 года назад +2

      I'm here too binge watching this awesome stuff so many Golden nuggets for artists ! Both externally and the internal struggle of painting so neat to watch him pull that out of them!

    • @paulwoodford1984
      @paulwoodford1984 Год назад

      Shame he can’t do. this type of thing on his own personal youtube channel. If he has one

  • @FreeBeDrug
    @FreeBeDrug 10 лет назад +17

    i like this series. Helps me learn about relevant artists.

  • @teresa19481
    @teresa19481 9 лет назад +10

    I love your enthusiasm,Your knowledge of the art of paingn, your personality, you talk and work with your heart. Well Done Thanks

  • @lindacheatwood
    @lindacheatwood 2 года назад +1

    LOVED this! Trying to "let go", so hard...

  • @joecombs7468
    @joecombs7468 4 года назад +5

    I've lived in many different cities across the country & visited many cities across the world.
    I always check out the local galleries, and its been my experience that the local galleries prefer artist who know nothing about painting because they sell to people who know nothing about art.
    It is rare for me to find something in a local gallery that I like enough to lay down my money.

  • @meanqueensuperscrimper8908
    @meanqueensuperscrimper8908 3 года назад +4

    Thank you. I'm going to watch all these videos because I should be able to paint because my uncle and father were both artists. I make textile art, and now I'm going to try painting. ilona

  • @fredarutherford6141
    @fredarutherford6141 8 лет назад +14

    So easy to learn from, very well presented. I love his modulated voice as well.

  • @shrljazz
    @shrljazz 4 года назад +7

    Where are you ? I miss these classes and looked forward so much to seeing them. You could do many more artists for your classes. Please come back!

  • @steffanpiper
    @steffanpiper 8 лет назад +16

    The most interesting people in life seem to be constantly defined by the phrase ... "Just do it." Love this series.

  • @anaghganguly8999
    @anaghganguly8999 6 лет назад +25

    The asian girl in the first episode would've been the perfect candidate for this one...

  • @madamedefarge7266
    @madamedefarge7266 5 лет назад +1

    Why has this not been a long-running BBC program aired by America's PBS??? It's wonderful! I'm so glad I found this video, and have subscribed. Off now to try applying paint to my "Fauvistish" drawing, feeling brave, bold, and beastly. *applause*

  • @pjlewisful
    @pjlewisful 10 лет назад +10

    wonderfully entertaining yet informative

  • @andrewross9732
    @andrewross9732 9 лет назад +3

    Great video series I really really love them.

  • @francesriddiough8818
    @francesriddiough8818 6 лет назад +10

    As far as I can remember...we were told that the Fauves didn't use white or black mixed with other colours to create light and shade but to use the colours themselves eg green or blue to indicate dark . So warm colours indicated light nd cold ones dark.

    • @taylorj6177
      @taylorj6177 5 лет назад

      This piece is freaking awesome.

  • @777oddball
    @777oddball 12 лет назад +3

    fantastic, both my grandparents were artists and i grew up with copies of all the greats hanging on the walls, my grandmother was particularly good at the french impressionists, the family has credit with a large art suppliers to this day for a handful of copies traded for credit

  • @mikefuller6959
    @mikefuller6959 7 лет назад +8

    I think that Andre Derain picture is Brilliant! Thanks for uploading these episodes! Cheers - Mike

    • @mikefuller6959
      @mikefuller6959 7 лет назад

      Too right, Jim!

    • @taylorj6177
      @taylorj6177 5 лет назад

      Yes, my favorite work I've seen on the show yet (aside from the van Gogh, but that's a class of its own, imo)

  • @lisengel2498
    @lisengel2498 7 лет назад +1

    I like the style very much - it has a very embodied feel to it - its like a kind of Music of colours dancing and yet telling a story of place and mood - its a very interesting way of investigating the intertwining of bodymind-place - Thank you for the episodes

  • @yolandavirtucio6261
    @yolandavirtucio6261 4 года назад

    Love the way you give instructions!

  • @dorianmclean6755
    @dorianmclean6755 Год назад

    I'm absolutely loving this series...
    In 1981 or so, I attempted to copy Andre...
    Because...I cant draw...i love to paint ..
    And I'm ecstatic about color.
    I loved this very much.

  • @Lara-ym2py
    @Lara-ym2py 2 года назад

    Absolutely love this lessons!♥️

  • @mona2242
    @mona2242 4 года назад +8

    John is truly a great pedagogue. I would love to know where he picked up all his incredible knowledge. Love all your videos. Thanks!

  • @meanmrmustard89
    @meanmrmustard89 11 лет назад +1

    Thanks! really enjoying these.

  • @megmellas5871
    @megmellas5871 3 года назад

    Bingewatchting these episodes and uta cracking the artistic block i feel tye passion being reignighted

  • @Philippe1613
    @Philippe1613 9 лет назад +2

    This is terrific stuff!

  • @peterpan5232
    @peterpan5232 4 года назад +2

    Amazing, I learn a lot. I'm not an artist, or shall I say a daily Sunday painter, copier of various famous painters. Thank you to propagate your knowledge and skills. In the future I will try to learn more of the painters themselves. It is even more interesting.. Pierre

  • @gdhse3
    @gdhse3 4 года назад

    Another great episode!

  • @rudolfo9361
    @rudolfo9361 3 года назад +1

    Just love it, John! THANK YOU! This series really gives me a kick in the ar..e, after a period of stagnation and even coming to a complete stop with painting. Nothing is disclosed about the kind of paints being used here, though. As a matter of fact I have no experience with oils, having mainly used acrylics plus gouache and egg tempera earlier on. I'd be grateful for further advice.

  • @drivenhome7840
    @drivenhome7840 3 года назад +3

    I would cover one eye and loose all sense of depth. Then I'd think with the rage of a bull and pull out red. Then I'd draw the sketch with my weak hand. Then I'd drink 1/2 bottle of wine and listen to gigues. Then I'd use the wrong end of the brush to apply, then the hairy end to jiggle it about.

  • @mrsszmanda07
    @mrsszmanda07 7 лет назад +1

    Great series! Thanks for uploading! Big fan of Myatt!

  • @common-girl
    @common-girl 3 года назад +1

    I think all 3 of them captured the spirit of Durain! ah yes badge of authenticity jail card.

  • @drivenhome7840
    @drivenhome7840 3 года назад +1

    Allana, her painting is very Matisse. Jason's I love it, wonderful. Gail's painting, is Fauve totally. love it.

  • @mrjules2008
    @mrjules2008 10 лет назад +2

    this is my favourite of the series. great shows. i think this is my favourite period and ive started copying derains fauvist styles.

  • @Sonturist
    @Sonturist 8 лет назад +1

    I like his critique of their work and the info on the artist. Great

  • @boblimmer6201
    @boblimmer6201 11 лет назад

    great series

  • @rachelleonardo9879
    @rachelleonardo9879 10 лет назад +1

    I like the biography on old masters that you give...

  • @jaystump8780
    @jaystump8780 Год назад

    After watching several episodes,,as,an erstwhile painter, our host has a genius: his abity to deco structure the PROCESS ande.otio al auotient

    • @jaystump8780
      @jaystump8780 Год назад

      e.otiomal quotient of each practitioner,. makes it clear why forging. was the serious way. to demonstrate his enormous gift...

  • @ozzieineire
    @ozzieineire 4 года назад +2

    Derain actually did a whole series of paintings, mainly of river scenes, when he visted London. Check em out, I personally think they are his best work.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 5 лет назад +3

    Hard to do Derain without it coming out child like. Not a fan of his but love this show.

  • @1975paulofontes
    @1975paulofontes 11 лет назад +2

    I LOVE MODERN ART!

  • @eyeshowyou
    @eyeshowyou Год назад

    The guy did extreamly well

  • @dmitri544
    @dmitri544 9 лет назад +13

    I likethe doggie

  • @scottlondon8382
    @scottlondon8382 2 года назад

    Man id love to give something like this a go

  • @orlyrabbit
    @orlyrabbit 11 лет назад +1

    It definitely takes confidence in your painting skills to paint well.

  • @danaalexander1453
    @danaalexander1453 9 лет назад

    id kill to go on a show like this

  • @classicalmusic1175
    @classicalmusic1175 7 лет назад +2

    Alannah was really struggling to comprehend that it was supposed to look child-like, or naive. That was the point.

    • @Nazareth434
      @Nazareth434 7 лет назад +6

      she was, but when you are a child, you are always trying to 'get better' become 'more realistic' and once you get to that point, it's very very hard to 'regress' again- it goes against everything you've strived for- and it just 'feels wrong' to do it- it's very very hard to embrace and allow the 'wild beast' to take over- because your mind fights you the hwole way- most people anyways-

  • @RussellScottHD
    @RussellScottHD 5 лет назад +1

    Alana is absolutely gorgeous. She's the true work of art in this episode.

  • @abbyzain3232
    @abbyzain3232 6 лет назад

    yeah...bloody well go for it....

  • @SuperKemali
    @SuperKemali 11 лет назад

    thanks.

  • @lolatiao
    @lolatiao 4 года назад

    Great

  • @bangzk8003
    @bangzk8003 3 года назад +1

    I feel like the two women were closer to painting a Fauve style than the guy. The man added way too much detail, but yet, the whole point of painting in this way is to paint simple shapes, with some small strokes to show detail.

  • @f7e8t9i3
    @f7e8t9i3 2 месяца назад

    Would love to take an art class with John Myatt

  • @taylorj6177
    @taylorj6177 5 лет назад +1

    I wish I had all those paints and brushes haha :)

  • @taylorj6177
    @taylorj6177 5 лет назад +1

    Haha nice *Velvet Underground* sticker at 9:50 ;)

  • @geofftrigger8165
    @geofftrigger8165 3 года назад

    How could three from England dislike London? Feel it like I did in 64. Three days and off to Scotland. I could feel the beastly dislike of London. But, Detain...his work so great. It's a shame he let Nazi's corrupt him. Thanks again and again for art taught for the lovers.

  • @nissansalajayasiriwardena9461
    @nissansalajayasiriwardena9461 9 лет назад

    i get his point of covering canvas its to bring out boldness in your personality i like this hope he ll cm to india

  • @zacharyrunningwolf7577
    @zacharyrunningwolf7577 6 лет назад

    what type of wall paint is he suggesting to use?

  • @lorenzoboselli1725
    @lorenzoboselli1725 3 года назад

    I love that he has the Andy Warhol’s banana on the wall . I assume that he took it away from the velvet underground album cover.

  • @robertatavola3070
    @robertatavola3070 6 лет назад

    I tried everything else,may ha a go at this

  • @lakshmanankomathmanalath
    @lakshmanankomathmanalath 10 лет назад

    Great. Thank you.

  • @kuikai100
    @kuikai100 11 лет назад

    good

  • @tonym994
    @tonym994 4 года назад +2

    Derain was probably consuming local wild plants.mushrooms. that painting is LSD before LSD.

    • @lindahl458
      @lindahl458 4 года назад

      Tony M or maybe simply colourblind and inpatient

    • @tonym994
      @tonym994 4 года назад

      @@lindahl458 HA! good luck from one starving artist to another.

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 4 года назад

      Maybe he was starving?

  • @aidansmyth6480
    @aidansmyth6480 4 года назад

    Derain Derain

  • @FreeBeDrug
    @FreeBeDrug 10 лет назад +11

    If i could give a suggestion, i think they should have just done a series of him painting and that's it.

    • @tamsinthai
      @tamsinthai 9 лет назад +1

      Well how dull! I believe we learn more from mistakes, others' included.

    • @lindahl458
      @lindahl458 4 года назад

      I say Bob Ross it

    • @howardhill3395
      @howardhill3395 4 года назад +1

      This series is just right. Though I would like another series in addition, showing John Myatt painting in different styles & describing what and why he's doing. So we thoroughly get to know the artist through his artistic choices...brush strokes, colors, etc.

  • @seescafedeu
    @seescafedeu 6 лет назад +1

    how can someone paint with dark glass on the face?

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 4 года назад

      Um, pick up a brush, dab it in paint then push it around on a canvas.

  • @kuikai100
    @kuikai100 11 лет назад

    I love fauvism....

  • @thedarkmoonman
    @thedarkmoonman 9 лет назад +1

    use emulsion paint?? cool

  • @mrcsanselmo
    @mrcsanselmo 7 лет назад +1

    I don't get the old style frame. The old lady did beat the young guys🙌

  • @Nazareth434
    @Nazareth434 7 лет назад +1

    Yup Gail's was a Derain- absolutely- most like his-

  • @telecasterbear
    @telecasterbear 6 лет назад +3

    When to stop is always an issue. Mix that with the courage to start and I have such a great time painting. Yikes.

    • @taylorj6177
      @taylorj6177 5 лет назад

      It would be quite difficult, imo, to have that time limit as it is--one day?! Yikes!

    • @DanyaAnderson
      @DanyaAnderson 4 года назад

      haha nailed it

  • @lildadecounty305
    @lildadecounty305 10 лет назад +2

    Who is this geeza to say "that's what he would have done"? How would he know? Artists tend to be unpredictable, it is a little silly to dismiss his technique as "this is what he would have done"

  • @ywei6944
    @ywei6944 9 лет назад +3

    First video I've seen without him saying many negative things about the artists...

    • @lutze5086
      @lutze5086 7 лет назад +2

      because they are painting like children

    • @taylorj6177
      @taylorj6177 5 лет назад

      Lol. He wasn't THAT critical in the Renoir episode, iirc

  • @abbyzain3232
    @abbyzain3232 6 лет назад +2

    im trying to copy Paul Gaugin art....

  • @Goths-On-The-Beach
    @Goths-On-The-Beach 2 года назад +1

    Who knew Theresa May can paint

  • @justinrumsby1017
    @justinrumsby1017 5 лет назад

    That looks nothing like the actual Charing Cross Bridge that Derain painted in 1906. 🤔

  • @ashleysfunworld8100
    @ashleysfunworld8100 2 года назад

    I will set the wild beast free!

  • @theedrstrangelove
    @theedrstrangelove 9 лет назад +13

    Yes, there are many worse things to be called other than Picasso!

  • @africo9104
    @africo9104 4 года назад

    Jason's pai ting was the best. Gail had too much help with the lower corner to say hers was the best.

  • @billysbains
    @billysbains 4 года назад

    why is this guy painting with sunglasses on how can u see

    • @atlantic2233
      @atlantic2233 4 года назад +1

      Wearing sunglasses is pretty clever; it let's her see only values (what's dark/light) thus she's not so influenced and tempered by the actual colors that are there. Know what I mean?

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 4 года назад +1

      @@atlantic2233 yes, i love painting with sunglasses, it brings out the FUN!!!

  • @GG-mn9ls
    @GG-mn9ls Год назад +1

    lol why do they always have an airbrush guy in his 30s, a hobbyist older lady and an art school girl in her 20s?

  • @robobop3721
    @robobop3721 3 года назад

    I don't get how you can be an art student and never heard of derain, fauvism etc

  • @jonmahashintina
    @jonmahashintina 4 года назад

    give them bigger brushes, good lord

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 4 года назад +1

      Bahahahahaha, why dont they have their own fing brushes?

  • @RapunzelinOttawa
    @RapunzelinOttawa 4 года назад +8

    Love the series, but the repetitious techno piano reduces its watchability.

    • @jlusk999
      @jlusk999 3 года назад

      Right...they do that on ALL of these kinds of shows now. Even cooking shows. Why????? Do we really need music playing while someone is stirring? If the host is interesting enough their presentation should be enough!

    • @nathanbabble1976
      @nathanbabble1976 Год назад

      A lot of these shows need less intense music and just less music and more actual content. Let me see them actually painting not just progress points.

    • @serrielu8025
      @serrielu8025 Год назад

      Man, I wish I hadn’t read your comment before I watched this. 🤨

  • @titob.yotokojr.9337
    @titob.yotokojr.9337 3 года назад

    I'm not a fan of fauvism so I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

  • @JN-ih1ko
    @JN-ih1ko 7 лет назад

    gail

  • @DirectorVomit
    @DirectorVomit 11 лет назад +1

    if you need to be told to use cheaper paints rather than thinking of the obvious option yourself, then maybe his advice is perfect for you.

  • @matthewgrennell9293
    @matthewgrennell9293 Год назад

    Why do you keep having them use acrylics to do oil paintings? This frustrates me every episode.

  • @magichands135
    @magichands135 4 года назад +1

    What if he faked his time in prison

    • @lindamon5101
      @lindamon5101 4 года назад +1

      Huh? Lol. Im pretty sure he has some tats to prove it.

  • @taylorj6177
    @taylorj6177 5 лет назад

    What happened??! I thought the brunette's painting at 20:43, when it had that huge red blotch in the upper middle right - that was brilliant; and it seemed the teacher thought so as well - why then, at the end, was it TOTALLY different?? The red had been absolutely erased, and what was in its place was... like all of the paintings ended up being: quite underwhelming... :( I was really disappointed overall and don't believe any of the artists truly captured the feel of Derain (whose work I had never seen before, but I really like this one).

  • @k.d.creative1760
    @k.d.creative1760 10 лет назад +1

    Alana is hot

  • @Thornyground63
    @Thornyground63 5 лет назад +1

    All three better than Derain's.......

  • @taylorj6177
    @taylorj6177 5 лет назад +1

    Am I the only one who feels like the showing of his prison drawings is a bit awkward and even borderline unpleasant? I know that's kind of mean, he did his time and has ostensibly repaid his debt to society, but do we really need to be reminded of that throughout the series? If he has truly moved on, then why the re-hash... Just focus on the art - it's not like we couldn't use more time of the students themselves in the show! ;))

    • @africo9104
      @africo9104 4 года назад

      That the the whole idea of this series, somewhere you miss the point.

  • @Fizzwhizz28
    @Fizzwhizz28 3 года назад +1

    Alhana just copied Jason throughout!

  • @Frankowillo
    @Frankowillo 3 года назад

    Interesting series. Andre Derain's style... nope, not my cuppa. My question, could he have painted realism, or was his so--called talent purely infantile?

    • @thomervin7450
      @thomervin7450 3 года назад

      The host said that Derain changed to a classical style later on.

  • @Colombiamusicalacade
    @Colombiamusicalacade 5 лет назад

    Solo veo una persona que quiere hacerse propaganda:-(

  • @hughiedavies6069
    @hughiedavies6069 5 лет назад

    The worst forgeries I've ever seen are John Myatt forgeries or copies. Whoever believed his work was genuine needs to go to specksavers!

  • @curlyanneb1973
    @curlyanneb1973 6 лет назад +5

    Into show two I realized he's not letting them do their own thing. He's telling them everything to do. I realize he's a teacher but don't like that part as it becomes not their attempt but their attempt through him.

    • @dougg1075
      @dougg1075 5 лет назад +3

      Carolyn Brt what would be the point of him being there?

    • @taylorj6177
      @taylorj6177 5 лет назад

      @@dougg1075 I can see both point of view - I see the importance of his instruction. though I do feel he may be being a bit too "helpful," as in, I feel that he tends to put too much of his personal influence/ opinion onto the student; as opposed to just nudging them in a certain direction, he is half-way moving their feet for them as well.

    • @theeaselrider4032
      @theeaselrider4032 5 лет назад +1

      It's a time thing.
      If you have a student for days, weeks, semesters, etc.. then you have time for them to find their own way, get off course and make mistakes and learn and develop their own path. But if you are trying to squeeze it all into a half hour program, then there's going to be a lot of hand-holding going on.
      In fairness though, John's not really a teacher. He has a vast knowledge of other artists and techniques, but kind of lacks the ability to present those to students in small enough chunks they can digest it and make use of them.
      I've met many great artists and many great art teachers - very few are both.
      Having said all that, I like John's videos very much and have watched them all. I'm trying to help my daughter with a school project about Fauvism, and this video might be exactly what she needs.

  • @FreeBeDrug
    @FreeBeDrug 10 лет назад

    Then again.... i think i would slap the face of the host if he got too declariative with me. His instructions are good, but sometimes i think he is just saying BS to make television. Which is ok..... But i think slapping the host would keep everyone on the same page and focused on painting.

  • @DirectorVomit
    @DirectorVomit 11 лет назад +2

    haha I can't stand this guy -_- his "art tip" is a quick talk about housepaint, that leads into a talk about his jail time. grrr.