Stop RUINING Your Songs with BORING Drums!

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  • Опубликовано: 2 ноя 2022
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    Edited by Sierra Ehlert
    Demo mixed by Erik Seime
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Комментарии • 78

  • @D_Tuned
    @D_Tuned Год назад +8

    I did something new yesterday and started programming the drums first. Working through each song section and listening how the drums interacted with the guitar part (as I played along with it). Tweaking little by little. Then I layed down the guitar part. When recording the bass, it was so much better. With the drums locked into the guitar, it gave me freedom to try a few out of pocket ideas. Your octopus thought is so true. I try to imagine being behind the kit. What would feel good playing? I appreciated seeing your process and getting fresh drum ideas. Super helpful! 🤘

  • @Not_Andrew_Huberman
    @Not_Andrew_Huberman Год назад +5

    Honestly learned a lot as a drummer. It's nice to know what's expected or what others would like to hear so we can focus our efforts.

  • @user-oj3cz4bi8n
    @user-oj3cz4bi8n Год назад +3

    we absolutely need part 2 !!!

  • @jamieblavin8908
    @jamieblavin8908 Год назад +12

    This is such a good video because being a drummer it is so true. Keep up the great work Trey :)

  • @darkstareng
    @darkstareng Год назад +3

    I love Superior Drummer. We run Roland V-Drums into Superior Drummer (acoustic drums are not an option due to the powers that be). I really like Toontrack's libraries, very rich.

  • @HeadrushStudio21228
    @HeadrushStudio21228 Год назад +1

    I love your lessons Tray! Thanks for all the hard work and time you put into these!

  • @silent-trouble
    @silent-trouble Год назад +3

    This was a super interesting approach As a (mediocre) guitarist i often dont really know what to do when it comes to other instruments i'm not familiar with.
    Could you do like a similar video for bass guitar? I never quite know what to do with it (other than playing the root notes and an occasional lick in between here and there).

  • @cynicald380
    @cynicald380 Год назад +1

    This may be just what I need to help me move forward in trying to write full songs. Thanks man 🤛🤛 I always took to actually tapping out beats with pads

  • @2CSteev
    @2CSteev Год назад +10

    Any company should fall over themselves to have their shit advertised like this. Good content

  • @eduardomelo6046
    @eduardomelo6046 Год назад +4

    the king coming over with the sickest tips for songwriting as always

  • @HighscoreCreative
    @HighscoreCreative Год назад

    nice one man, would love a video on fills, ghost notes and dynamics too :)

  • @IndyRockStar
    @IndyRockStar Год назад +9

    Hey Trey, you did a very helpful video on how to create song from a riff. Could you do a video on creating a song from a chord progression? I have a problem getting from chord progressions to riffs instead of the other way around. My lead lines keep ending up as vocal lines or bass lines.

    • @vladv5126
      @vladv5126 Год назад +1

      Use chord tones in your riffs. Simple.

  • @dustyashberry6140
    @dustyashberry6140 Год назад

    Awesome video Trey! I really liked seeing the drums on a grid. I have always had a problem figuring out different time signatures. 4/4 gold.....5/4, 7/8.....what have you. I guess I just can't count. What I am getting at, could you do a video with time signatures on a grid and use some example songs to go with it? Might be a good video.

  • @jeremyschiesser7086
    @jeremyschiesser7086 Год назад +1

    One of your best informative videos you've put out. Thank you

  • @SchwartzerAdler
    @SchwartzerAdler Год назад +3

    I usually like working with 4 bar phrases subdivided into two halves, so that bar 1 and 3 are basically the same, but 2 and 4 are different.

  • @RokDAWG1
    @RokDAWG1 Год назад

    Trey, you’re Gear Gods Trey today! This is awesome stuff yo!

  • @billrazor6591
    @billrazor6591 Год назад

    This channel is an absolute gold!

  • @tuckerdawson
    @tuckerdawson Год назад +10

    Trey - Promotes the awesome EZ Drummer 3
    Also Trey - let’s use the crappy midi editor in Protools and not the really good midi editor within the plug-in 😂
    Sorry Trey have to make fun a little!! Loving this video!!

    • @VrantusOfficial
      @VrantusOfficial Год назад

      @Constantinos Ioannides toontrack never makes their products free.

  • @sheridonkirk2360
    @sheridonkirk2360 Год назад +1

    So cool!
    Love the octopus analogy lol
    I often come up with beats in my head ( I’m a drummer) but then when I try n play them sometimes I’m like…. Yeah nah,
    Your not Danny Carey bro 🤦‍♂️😂

  • @bigkidband5731
    @bigkidband5731 Год назад

    The Octopus behind the drums cracked me up! 😂

  • @avenged_markus4656
    @avenged_markus4656 Год назад

    Thanks Trey, greatly appreciated

  • @ShootieSchool
    @ShootieSchool Год назад +1

    Well done!

  • @jonkerrmusic
    @jonkerrmusic Год назад +1

    Would you recommend working on this as a refinement process after settling on guitar parts? I often run a really basic pattern as a form of livelier metronome to get what I want for the song, before going back to fine tune the drums for what I'd like specifically.

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад +2

      For me, doing it this way is a starting point usually, mainly because you wind up with something pretty specific, but also you can absolutely do it at any point to make the parts more interesting

  • @hansgrayman4809
    @hansgrayman4809 Год назад +3

    Ok, I admit it. I don't care about the drums I use and record with as much as my guitars and vocals these days. In my defense though, I am writing, playing and recording everything myself, playing everything except the drums. And EZ drummer and Superior Drummer are pretty awesome as is in lots of ways.

  • @donaldinnewmexico
    @donaldinnewmexico Год назад +1

    Hi, Trey. I'm a new sub. Dovydas sent me. Saw that video doin' the Sweetwater Jingle.

  • @BleuRoseDesigns
    @BleuRoseDesigns Год назад +3

    Those drums got spicy!! 🔥

  • @andrewjacksonmusic
    @andrewjacksonmusic Год назад

    Drumatic beats 🤦‍♂️ great video Trey, still gonna use logic auto drummer and mr smith 😂 but one day will get a drum pack 😁

  • @MesaMXR
    @MesaMXR Год назад

    Dying to see what the new SDX is. I'd love for it to be a spiritual successor to DKH Superior or something. Considering Fredrik Thordenall is involved, decent chance it'll be something like that. But Trey, I'm sure you already know exactly what it is. lol

  • @Fartinhalerr
    @Fartinhalerr Год назад +3

    Eh, not really sold on this kind of thing for metal, I think simple is better. For jazz or pop i agree with you though. These kind of drums work really well. Just my humble opinion.

    • @sungerbok
      @sungerbok Год назад +1

      Yup, sounded like a trap beat more than anything

    • @victordiesel
      @victordiesel Год назад

      Sometimes it becomes so complex its difficult to enjoy it. You dont really know where is it going. Almost like random hits.

  • @luisgpr1
    @luisgpr1 Год назад

    What do you think of Logic's AI drummers? That's what I've been using because I don't know anything about what to do with drums

  • @xenonvinc
    @xenonvinc Год назад +1

    Fire!

  • @jloiben12
    @jloiben12 11 месяцев назад

    I like 20 bar kick loops. Especially when they result it fights ;)

  • @henriquespencer8644
    @henriquespencer8644 Год назад

    Thanks!

  • @hansgrayman4809
    @hansgrayman4809 Год назад +3

    Either way it needs more cowbell.

  • @LegionofLoom
    @LegionofLoom Год назад +1

    🤘🤘

  • @_thaaatguy
    @_thaaatguy Год назад

    Man, that intro song!!! New channel intro, maybe?

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад +1

      Yeah you like it? I think it's aight but it's kind of nonsense really, just some tech death nothingness haha

    • @_thaaatguy
      @_thaaatguy Год назад

      ​@@treyxaviermusic lol you think so? I think it's pretty unique and groovy, man. Not better than the old intro but it's definitely spicy 🔥.

  • @svenstormbeard
    @svenstormbeard Год назад +1

    This video was made for me after the song I submitted last Friday lmao

  • @Scotty_dont
    @Scotty_dont Год назад

    Anyone know what that midi controller is?

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад +1

      IK Multimedia iRig Pads: imp.i114863.net/rn5K6B

    • @Scotty_dont
      @Scotty_dont Год назад

      @@treyxaviermusic thanks dude!

  • @apoplexiamusic
    @apoplexiamusic Год назад

    Alt title: baby’s first breakbeat
    Or : Trey’s first Drum & Bass beat

  • @smash_adams
    @smash_adams Год назад

    What midi pad are you using?

  • @cynicald380
    @cynicald380 Год назад +1

    I'm getting tambourine timing vibes 😆😆

  • @charlesrocks
    @charlesrocks Год назад +1

    ***Krishna The Drummer has entered the chat***

  • @MykeOwns
    @MykeOwns Год назад

    Nice

  • @khristopherkomodoensis4734
    @khristopherkomodoensis4734 Год назад +1

    Alt title: How to make 4/4 sound prog

  • @makoseda
    @makoseda Год назад

    Dillinger!

  • @hellmikeguitar
    @hellmikeguitar Год назад

    If "Beware of the octopus" doesn't sound cool enough you could always go for:
    "Be wary of Danny Carey"

  • @wayneczubakowski
    @wayneczubakowski Год назад

    Has anyone ever told you that you sound like fry from Futurama?

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад

      No, I usually get Chris Pratt, Will Ferrel or Ryan Reynolds haha

  • @wernerpunk
    @wernerpunk Год назад

    Great Video, I've watched it 3 times now !! :D
    But, why does your head look too big for your body in this video?!?!
    Is it just me haha???

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад +1

      I mean, I do kind of have a huge head hahaha

    • @wernerpunk
      @wernerpunk Год назад

      You made my day responding to this 🤣
      I guess you have to keep all those tasty riffs and ideas somewhere my man 🤷👊

  • @flynbrynb5280
    @flynbrynb5280 Год назад

    Technically 4 on the floor means bass drum hits on the down beat. Just sayin no big.

  • @givemeajackson
    @givemeajackson Год назад

    my drums are absolutely atrocious...

  • @THEJRODIUS
    @THEJRODIUS Год назад

    1st all those brands dump Ye, now we seeing ground zero of a bunch of audio brands dumpin' Trey for anti-octopi rhetoric... ;)

  • @joachimtesdal5998
    @joachimtesdal5998 Год назад

    now lets go make some interesting music people!! anyone? no? well okay then..

  • @marcocarnaghi294
    @marcocarnaghi294 Год назад

    "You need unique drum sections because you write unique music"- why you gotta be so rude? 😢hahaha

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад +1

      I like it because it could be a compliment OR an insult hahaha

    • @marcocarnaghi294
      @marcocarnaghi294 Год назад

      @@treyxaviermusic I though you were just making fun of your proved ability to write riffsaladas, I mean, songs hahaha

  • @jayfree850
    @jayfree850 Год назад +2

    It's just not natural or pleasing to the ears. Sorry man...just not into busy, messy, overproduced stuff like that.

  • @johnpatitucci7919
    @johnpatitucci7919 Год назад +20

    5 minutes in and you're way better than Lars Ulrich.

    • @treyxaviermusic
      @treyxaviermusic  Год назад +3

      I'm aiming to be better than Skeet Ulrich though

    • @LifeInLandscaping
      @LifeInLandscaping Год назад +1

      @@treyxaviermusic you gotta admit he has some cool snare placement in his better years? 😶

    • @offtherealm5438
      @offtherealm5438 Год назад

      Bullshit

    • @Kudabear1
      @Kudabear1 Год назад

      What r u talking about 1 second in amdhes already better than Ulrich