I never comment or like or subscribe after one video but this is seriously The most thoughtful and least preachy video of this kind I’ve seen in a while thank you
Thank you for the videos. I can watch videos on form all day and it doesn't help me if I don't practice it. I honestly think I need an in person coach for a day or 30😅? I'd go to a clinic or something.
I platuaed out at 250ish forever. Thinking about timing and my off hand has got me to 280-300' sometimes. If I can get to 350'-400' I can compete. I think I need to start over when it comes to drives.
Yeah, a lot of people do need to start over because they have such deep muscle memory for big problems. If you get a net and / or a flight towel, you can get a lot of reps in doing 1 leg standstills to practice rebuilding your upper body coiling and arm position to avoid rounding. Doing it slowly and filming to make sure it’s right then gradually increase speed with lots of reps at each gradual speed increase to build up the muscle memory. Then you can move on to 1 step standstills then slow walk ups.
this is interesting stuff for sure. I am 61 years old, started playing in 2022. I could only throw about 125-150 when I first started. Bought a Innova starter pack at Walmart. After a lot of field work, I have maxed out at 270 feet a few times. I probably average about 240 or maybe 250? I only throw 6 and 7 speed fairway drivers off the tee most of the time. some 9 and 10 speed occasionally. I wonder if throwing just slower speed discs hinders a person from throwing farther? If you don't have the arm speed to throw a 13 or 14 speed disc, is it possible to even reach 350 with just a 7 or 8 speed fairway driver??
With lower arm speed I’d guess a flippy 7 speed thrown on hyzer so that it hyzer flips and turns a good bit before fading would be your best bet. Unless you mostly throw anny, then a higher speed over stable disc could help. The issue is even high speed understable discs won’t be very flippy at low arm speeds so that’s why I say diff speeds might be better depending on release angles.
@@disc-golf-neil well, lately I have been using a Latitude 64 River and an Innova Star Leopard primarily off the tee pad, then an Axiom Neutron Soft Envy mid range or mako3 for approaches. I can handle a Beast fairway driver. I just need to keep working on form changes.
I usually go for hyzer flip that holds a turn for a long time but it kinda seems harder to get everything right (right amount of disc stability to not flip too much for the speed you are throwing and right amount of hyzer angle so it doesn't flip too much). I haven't practiced big anhyzer throws much but occasionally I throw them and often get close to my max in just a few attempts. Seems like as long as you have a disc that is OS enough to fight out of the anny it's not as delicate to get everything right to get big distance. I focus more on hyzer because I think it is way more useful in general so I want it to be my default that I'm most comfortable with. It's rare on the course unless you play mostly huge open courses without OB to have enough space for a big anny flex, but also not enough space for a big turn after a hyzer flip, so usually the best option for distance is to do a hyzer flip that doesn't turn too much or gently turns before coming back. Also, most "flat" release angles are actually baby hyzer flips. If you go frame by frame on youtube of pros you'll see this when commentators say "flat throw" you'll usually be able to see it actually came out on a baby hyzer then flipped to flat right away. If you release truly flat on a powerful drive the disc will turn right away and if it was OS enough to fight out of the turn it's going to dump and fade and not go straight for long.
@@disc-golf-neil thaks, ddo the pro thrtow big anhyzer oir hyzer flip in distance competitions. intresting that most pro trhow flat but still is a baby hyzer flips that is cool, need to work on my hyzer game used to only throw hyzers fro some reason now my hyzer wis gone and i only can get anhyzer
@disc-golf-neil I feel like so many people do not understand this. Then when they throw tech disc they think it is wrong because it is showing so much hyzer angle.
@@MusicGW in distance competitions it’s mostly hyzer release angle but I’ve seen some anhyzer. The faster you throw the more flippy the disc will get from the speed. So when I throw an over stable destroyer at 65 mph it doesn’t flip much, but if a pro throws the same at 80mph it will be like throwing a tern, it flips quite a bit at that speed. So they have to put a lot of hyzer on it so it doesn’t turn and burn and instead flips then holds a nice turn for a long time ideally for max distance. It’s like when you throw into a strong headwind and your discs flip so much.
@@Winton-fam @Monkeyass954 you can see some pros tech disc stats here. Most of them are throwing at least a small hyzer and a lot are a medium amount. techdisc.com/table.html?live
You just summarized my RUclips journey in so much. Excellent questions and responses. Thank you and thank you Albert
I never comment or like or subscribe after one video but this is seriously
The most thoughtful and least preachy video of this kind I’ve seen in a while thank you
Thanks! I’m usually the same way so I know it’s a big deal when you say that, hah.
Interesting and thoughtful questions, thanks for sharing!
Great video!! You asked some really great questions and explained the answers very well. Thank you for sharing.
This is what the people need!!
Great info! Thanks for sharing....
Great info. Simple and to the point video. Thank you
this video goes hard. top notch!
Thank you for the videos. I can watch videos on form all day and it doesn't help me if I don't practice it. I honestly think I need an in person coach for a day or 30😅? I'd go to a clinic or something.
I platuaed out at 250ish forever. Thinking about timing and my off hand has got me to 280-300' sometimes. If I can get to 350'-400' I can compete.
I think I need to start over when it comes to drives.
Yeah, a lot of people do need to start over because they have such deep muscle memory for big problems.
If you get a net and / or a flight towel, you can get a lot of reps in doing 1 leg standstills to practice rebuilding your upper body coiling and arm position to avoid rounding. Doing it slowly and filming to make sure it’s right then gradually increase speed with lots of reps at each gradual speed increase to build up the muscle memory.
Then you can move on to 1 step standstills then slow walk ups.
This really is a great video. You’re really cool for sharing it too. I think a lot of people would have held this info. Great job man 👏🏾
this is interesting stuff for sure. I am 61 years old, started playing in 2022. I could only throw about 125-150 when I first started. Bought a Innova starter pack at Walmart. After a lot of field work, I have maxed out at 270 feet a few times. I probably average about 240 or maybe 250? I only throw 6 and 7 speed fairway drivers off the tee most of the time. some 9 and 10 speed occasionally. I wonder if throwing just slower speed discs hinders a person from throwing farther? If you don't have the arm speed to throw a 13 or 14 speed disc, is it possible to even reach 350 with just a 7 or 8 speed fairway driver??
With lower arm speed I’d guess a flippy 7 speed thrown on hyzer so that it hyzer flips and turns a good bit before fading would be your best bet. Unless you mostly throw anny, then a higher speed over stable disc could help.
The issue is even high speed understable discs won’t be very flippy at low arm speeds so that’s why I say diff speeds might be better depending on release angles.
@@disc-golf-neil well, lately I have been using a Latitude 64 River and an Innova Star Leopard primarily off the tee pad, then an Axiom Neutron Soft Envy mid range or mako3 for approaches. I can handle a Beast fairway driver. I just need to keep working on form changes.
great video
when throwing for max distance do you usually throw anhyzer or hyzer?
I usually go for hyzer flip that holds a turn for a long time but it kinda seems harder to get everything right (right amount of disc stability to not flip too much for the speed you are throwing and right amount of hyzer angle so it doesn't flip too much).
I haven't practiced big anhyzer throws much but occasionally I throw them and often get close to my max in just a few attempts. Seems like as long as you have a disc that is OS enough to fight out of the anny it's not as delicate to get everything right to get big distance.
I focus more on hyzer because I think it is way more useful in general so I want it to be my default that I'm most comfortable with. It's rare on the course unless you play mostly huge open courses without OB to have enough space for a big anny flex, but also not enough space for a big turn after a hyzer flip, so usually the best option for distance is to do a hyzer flip that doesn't turn too much or gently turns before coming back.
Also, most "flat" release angles are actually baby hyzer flips. If you go frame by frame on youtube of pros you'll see this when commentators say "flat throw" you'll usually be able to see it actually came out on a baby hyzer then flipped to flat right away. If you release truly flat on a powerful drive the disc will turn right away and if it was OS enough to fight out of the turn it's going to dump and fade and not go straight for long.
@@disc-golf-neil thaks, ddo the pro thrtow big anhyzer oir hyzer flip in distance competitions. intresting that most pro trhow flat but still is a baby hyzer flips that is cool, need to work on my hyzer game used to only throw hyzers fro some reason now my hyzer wis gone and i only can get anhyzer
@disc-golf-neil I feel like so many people do not understand this. Then when they throw tech disc they think it is wrong because it is showing so much hyzer angle.
@@MusicGW in distance competitions it’s mostly hyzer release angle but I’ve seen some anhyzer.
The faster you throw the more flippy the disc will get from the speed. So when I throw an over stable destroyer at 65 mph it doesn’t flip much, but if a pro throws the same at 80mph it will be like throwing a tern, it flips quite a bit at that speed. So they have to put a lot of hyzer on it so it doesn’t turn and burn and instead flips then holds a nice turn for a long time ideally for max distance.
It’s like when you throw into a strong headwind and your discs flip so much.
@@Winton-fam @Monkeyass954 you can see some pros tech disc stats here. Most of them are throwing at least a small hyzer and a lot are a medium amount.
techdisc.com/table.html?live
Sloooow is smooth. Smooth is slow.