MOVIE REACTION Arrival (2016) Reaction/Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 окт 2024
- Hello and welcome for another Catch-Up Packets movie reaction! This week we watch Denis Villeneuve's 2016 masterpiece Arrival. We are joined this week by our friend Lewis, he will be back for more reactions later. Please excuse his sleepiness in parts of this video :)
What other movies should we react to? Let us know your suggestions in the comments below!
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The way Louise's backstory works into the theme of the movie is great. She was a translator for the army and her work got people killed, so she became so afraid that her actions would cause pain to her and others that she retreated into teaching, which drove her into depression (its all there in imagery and subtle hints in the first part). That she was given the 'weapon' tested her and pushed her to live life fully even knowing that bad consequences were coming and to embrace life despite the pain. Its such a good arc.
Lol at the guy falling asleep
Note: There was a book printed that teaches the heptapod language. And it was stated that if you really learn the heptapod language, you perceive time not as linear.
I would take that to mean that there can be no successful aggression, because you'd see it coming and take measures to avoid being attacked. And if the heptapods wanted helpful humans in 3,000 years to help them, then the language has to be shared globally. Otherwise, if only one part of humankind had the heptapod language, they could use that advantage to take over the world. Likely that would produce 'unhelpful', exploitative humans in 3,000 years.
But another way to view this is that this was all foreseen. The heptapods were kind of just fulfilling what had already been foreseen, as part of their own species' survival. It's already happened seen to happen, is happening, had happened. They're just inhabiting the moment as it happens. Hard to say if there was planning, gambling, even 'freewill'. Even the passing on of the language is a struggle for Louise, but not for the heptapods. Because this is all familiar for them. Which makes Abbott's death even more tragic; Abbott came on this trip already knowing it would lead to death process.
By the way, did you get why they got the nicknames of 'Abbott and Costello? Hint: "Who's on first?"
The design for the ship was actually inspired by a real asteroid which is circling our galaxy.
I don't think guys understood the main concept of the movie. Which is honestly quite easy to grasp if you actually pay attention. Once you understand their language you are able to view time as non linear. Meaning you can see into your future. It is not a super power it is a learned ability.
Unfortunately, some of them felt the need to use the time watching to make fun of internet personalities that would "ruin it" and making political comments rather than focusing on the actual themes and story of the aliens themselves, which pushes away potential subscribers regardless of their political affiliation and I don't know why some reaction channels feel the need to do this. I suppose it's just the nature of the time we are living in, but I watch plenty of reaction channels where I have no idea at all what the political ideologies of the reactors are, because they don't bring it up. I also don't know how Nate, who was watching for the first time, is supposed to pay attention very well when his friends who have seen it multiple times start jabbering when they should know when not to, lol.
As a divorced dad of amazing daughters when she asks him if you knew what your life would bring even if the pain, would you still live thst same life ?” Obviously her struggle with it wasn’t in herself it was knowing he would leave upon finding out and the pain it will bring him BUT again, as a divorced dad specifically, the hurt and betrayal all of it and the struggle still and missing my children when with their mom, it I could go back and not meet my ex and avoid the hurt would I do it but that would take my daughters out of existence and my life and as a father , I’d go through that hell the rest of my life to have my babies here and had those moments rocking baby to sleep , staying awake next to my middle girl that had night terrors just feeling so much Love and protection of her , the Love of a parent for their babies is undescribable, it’s amazing and gets me bawling every time with the score!
The short story this is based off, and the author saw time as immutable. It was more about accepting what will be or not instead of the movie's theme on choosing your path. The heptopods, as a species, are literally just going through the motions.
I really appreciate all the time spent thinking about the movie after the credits rolled!
Your friend falling asleep is actually something that happened to many because the soundtrack of this movie is so soothing. It never happened to me though, i love Arrival, I could watch it over and over.
Luciano Pavarotti, Peter Sarsgaard and Curt Cobaine...
35:38 Imagine watching the whole movie just to fall asleep during the climax 🤣
Yep. The window thing IS kind of a giant alien white-board. Good guess by that that guy.
"Chronoforming" is an absolutely brilliant description and I wish there was more media involving it. The only things I can really think of approaching it are Dr Who and Max Gladstone's "Time War"...although I'm no aficionado of the time travel genre.
"About Time", "The Time Traveler's Wife", "Groundhog Day", "Men In Black 3", "Interstellar", "Minority Report", "Looper", "Premonition", "The Lake House", "Timecop"... That's just a few of MANY out there.
@@chris...9497 "FAQ: About Time Travel" is good as well, British movie
No one is crediting the Chinese general for giving out his personal number in rhe future. 😀
The military guy is probably not just a military guy. He's probably a military communications guy. He could have a masters or phd for all we know.
lol your face expressions just after you laugh to the "alien" comment & then the aliens comes 😂 19:35
The understanding of time you arrive at from watching this movie is actually pretty close to the understanding of time after Einstein's theories of special and general relativity.
We normally think of the passing of time as something that happens to everyone "simultaneously". Special relativity (the theory that explains how you can't go faster than the speed of light, and also the equivalence of energy and mass that is E = mc^2) did away with that. In special relativity, you can still define "simultaneous" - that is, there is a way for you to tell if two events you observed happened "at the same time". However, if someone else passes you at a different speed, his "simultaneous" will be different - that is, the two events you see as happening at the same time will happen one after the other. This already tells you that there is no universal "now", the moment is just a subjective illusion.
General relativity (which explains gravity as the non-Euclidean bending of space-time itself, that is, space-time is such that two parallel rays of light might meet before infinity or their distance might increase) goes one step further and posits that we live in a four-dimensional tapestry where everything is interconnected. So not only is my present your future _and_ past, but your future and past need to be there for me to stand on my feet!
If you think about it harder, common time travel tropes don't make much sense for other reasons. For, what does it mean for a timeline to "change"? The word "change" is itself connected to the passing of time! You can make sense of this in two ways, but both of them lead to different conclusions than all the time travel movies. Either you posit the existence of parallel realities, with timelines branching out, or you posit the existence of the fifth dimension of a super-time, in which the "change" of timelines takes place. But either way, if you create a new timeline, that won't cut short the old one! Say in Back to the Future, all the timelines Marty McFly and Biff created will be causally connected due to their time travels, but all of those timelines extend into eternity and the Marty & Biff of one timeline moving on to another will just mean that they will be missing persons in that timeline.
I misjudged the guy on the right, I thought he would be a bit superficial by the opinions he had in the beginning but he enjoyed the movie the most and had a lot to say about it, I enjoyed listening to his perspectives. :D
Don't think of the internal ship dynamics like magnetism, think of it like gravity. The fluid in your inner ear would change to the correct direction. Though it would be really strange visually, and momentarily quite disorienting.
Beautiful movie. One of my favourites. Though I see the end from a different perspective. She was given the chance to change her choice and did not tell him what was going to happen, so they could go through all of this together and Hannah would have her father around.
Hello from Japan.
As a result, Louise, like the future, gives birth to a daughter and becomes an expert and translator of alien languages, but the process to get there is uncomfortable.
Did the aliens go to the trouble of meeting her, an American, and approaching Earth accompanied by a dozen UFOs in order to make her understand the future?
Looking at their purpose, it seems clear that they were not tourists, scholars or invaders; they must have been obliged to get the Earthlings to help them in some way after 3000 years. But weren't there other planets with life besides Earth?
It's an American film, but there must be a lot of stories happening outside the US, where the UFOs approached, and we look forward to spin-off dramas being produced.
Thank you for watching!!
The Three Body problem is excellent. The whole trilogy is.
If you're down for a subtitled movie, I would recommend Twilight Samurai. Realistic look at life as a low ranking samurai in the Edo period. Beautifully shot and acted. It's also the start of a great 3 movie anthology. Sorry for spamming the comments section btw
Not a movie but a mini series if you like brainy sci fi: DEVS. Deals with free will vs determinism. From Alex Garland.
Such a great series. Simulation theory, determinism, corporate overreach, grief, human nature. It has it all.
So great you're doing movie reactions and starting with Villeneuve! Great choice ☺️
And you pronounced it right. He's from my hometown, Montreal! Blade Runner would also be a good reaction as well 😊👍
Actually we started with Affleck! Go back and watch our Gone Baby Gone reaction 😜
@@catch-uppackets2664 you're right, I forgot about that! Also you look too young to be a Dad, Shaun!😊
Oh and the music! Except for opening and closing it was all composed by Jóhann Jóhannsson. The unforgettable opening music is "On the Nature of Daylight" by Max Richter
Quick book recommendation for a first contact book that is a brain breaker: Blindsight by Peter Watts. You have to pay close attention, but it's extremely well done hard scifi that doesn't treat the reader like a child. Keep up the good work!
lol wrote this before the...Lewis? mentioned the book. Don't let the vampire thing prevent you from reading it. It's so good
You should react to Incendies, an other great movie from Dennis Villeneuve
We might just do that! That’s his only movie that I haven’t seen
@@catch-uppackets2664 Can't wait!
@@catch-uppackets2664 please do! It's amazing
Beautiful movie
The one thing that I was thinking about a lot after repeat viewings of this movie is just that, how many other people learn Heptapod language to the degree of having their perception as .. advanced/future-seeing/non-linear as Louise? My one confusion was kind of, if Ian learned it, did he just not have as much fluency or connection to the language for some reason? Otherwise why doesn't he know that his child will die? And the same with Hannah herself, surely she's grown up learning the language bc why wouldn't they teach it to her? And why does Louise say I know something's going to happen that I can't explain, why can't she explain it if the language supposedly gives this gift? I absolutely love this movie it's just one thing that I have questions about, but it's not a problem, it's just kind of like... wait a minute. I also wonder if at some point if Hannah -did- learn it well enough how she would feel about being born and having to go through this disease? But nothing -seems- to suggest that she knows what's coming. Although, I'm sure she would remember the thing her mom said, about "a rare disease" when she does get sick ...... ?
I love this movie! Some might think it slow, but I am always captivated through it all. Thanks!
Let's get that 2049 reaction going... :)
Sad and beautifull part is that she knew that here kid will die very young and her husband is leaving here but she is going through with it anyway
loved this film. it just makes you question time and thinking non-linearly more so. and love the score (by max richter iirc). great film all in all. completely different genre, but y'all sohould check out 'the empty man' at some point, it gets pretty deep. :D
Time is a dimension like the dimensions of space are and I think there are actually theories saying time is really just like another point on a map and that past and future are in some weird way just just always (which is a confusing word in this context) there. Past and future just exist and we can't really do much about it. Which can be a terrifying thought, but let's be honest... it doesn't really change anything for our everyday life. Maybe free decisions are just an illusion and everything is determined, but it's convincing enough for me. ;)
I think the word on the flag would have been Abbot.
Hardly a reaction video if 2/3 of you have already watched it
So, she changed her past by actions she takes in her future.. definitely an in testing way of seeing time.
A scissor lift a pretty common thing.
Another sleeper most have missed is 2019's "The Vast of Night."
I think I saw Jay Baumann recommend that one on Redlettermedia
@@catch-uppackets2664 Yeah, I think Mike recommended it as well.
I guess it wasn't for me because I fell asleep watching it!😛
You guys should react to more underappreciated movies like Coraline, The New Planet Of The Apes Trilogy and Kubo And The Two Strings.
Nice reaction, keep it up 👍
Have you seen 2010's "Monsters" movie? "Arrival" seems to have ripped it off for alien vocalizations. "Monsters" is more of a road movie, just with a weird setting. Really great job for such a low budget though.
The sound design was original to the movie. There is a segment in Arrival’s “extras” showing how the sound team developed it. Honestly, if sound design interests you is is so wirth checking out! The team created devices from rice paper as “lungs”, recorded bird & insect sound. I wonder if the sound team also did “Monsters”?
Are you guys going to react to Dune?
I’m torn! I want to see it in the theater, but it will be right there on HBOMax and would be great reaction content. We shall see! I think it would probably be good to do it.
@@catch-uppackets2664 Yeah I have HBO MAX but I’m still seeing it in IMAX. Which it’s entirely selfish of me to want you to react to it and deprive you of that theater experience, but it would be a great film to react to. And in more vain prospects it could potentially boost attention for your channel if you do react to it because it is so topical.
It'd be great, but I don't want you guys to get copyright strikes from footage etc 😊
That’s an important consideration. But The Normies and other channels seem to react to new movies, so it could be doable.
@@catch-uppackets2664 that's true. I think they alter the footage by making it semi transparent in some parts
Really struggled watching you really struggle with this movie. The most excited and animated, not to mention awake, was when the helicopter buzzed the alien ship and 'sparks' flew from its surface. I sort of had the impression the group is generally happier with guy oriented productions with lots of action. There seemed to be remarkably little focus on the protagonist and her importance in the field of communication and languages, which I thought was laid out very clearly from the very beginning of the film.
Even film critics commented on the heavy-handed proselytizing for globalism in "Arrival."
Do people other than conspiracy nuts use the word "globalism"?
@@Daneelro
Good question.
@@Daneelro You could have easily looked it up to answer your question, to which the answer is: Yes, people other than "conspiracy nuts" use the word "globalism". 🙄 I understand you simply wanted to insult the person you were answering by essentially calling them a "conspiracy nut" rather than looking the term up yourself. And so did all the, probably snickering because they believe you and themselves to somehow be more clever than so-called "conspiracy nuts", people who gave you a like for your comment instead of seriously answering your "question".
Wikipedia states it's used by political scientists. And the modern usage and concept of the term started during "post-war debates" after World War 2. It also states: "Globalism has been seen as a pillar of a liberal international rules-based order along with democratic governance, open trade, and international institutions."
Again - not that I think you *actually* care. But hey - just in case anyone else is curious.
@@remliqa Not really. Of course it's used by other people, but obviously people just want to insult the person who posted the original comment. It's very easy to look up who else uses the term and how it originated - which has nothing to do with "conspiracy nuts".
@@LadyBeyondTheWall True, but only conspiracy nut would use globalism in a negative connotation.
The OP deserved that insult .