The Don't comes up 48%-52% of the time. You may want to start with the 5-count Don't system. Every system works on occasion and that same system will fail on occasion. Old saying that the pros know: "All right bettors die broke" Good Luck at the tables. P.S If the shooter start to roll numbers ( the 8) place a few numbers and then come down.
Played for over an hour on $1 bubble craps with $60 start. 200+ rolls. Basically broke even. Was never down or up more than about 1/2. Great for comps. Think of trying on a $10 real table with $500 bankroll. I did try maxing out 4&10 odds on my second try and made a huge difference. Wasn’t sure what to do when they got knocked off so just kept maxing. Went broke quick. Might work with I’d say double or triple the bankroll but a lot riskier
Hey CRAPPY ! I play a similar strategy, EXCEPT I limit my bets to 4 per shooter. I start my play from the DC, AFTER a come out point is set, This way I won't get caught by a STRING of 7's and 11's by one shooter. As a DARK SIDE most of my life ,I have found that each player rolls the dice differently, so there a BETTER chance of 7 outs. I found that FLAT betting works best me, and living here in VEGAS, time is on my side. If I GRIND out a $100 or $200 a day I'm done for the day. ( Try RUNNING this system AGAIN, except also play a FLAT BET at the same time for a comparision.)
Crappy's Simulator needs to switch dice out periodically like casinos do between shooters. I think this strategy is the best for hanging out with the dealers and making no money. I watched the whole run, thanks!
Play the DP and then place the inside numbers after the point. The first hit will pay for the don't come. The next hit will start the continuous don't strategy with each new don't come replacing the placed number; e.g., if a 5 hits, you get paid, the don't becomes a contract bet, and the placed bet is removed. At this point, profit can be collected or can be reinvested to buy/place numbers that aren't covered; such as the 4 and 10 - provided they aren't the point. The don't come is replaced after every role. This essentially works to catch the first hit, pay for more opportunity, and then swap to the dark side as the shooter progresses. That seven will show eventually.
a don't come bet is not a contract bet...... same as the don't pass line bet is not a contract bet, they can be taken down at any time if you wish.....
Hey Crappy, love your videos. I noticed at the end of the last shooter you had all the numbers covered with Don't Pass and Don't Come... and you still placed another DC. That DC after all numbers are covered is pretty much a losing bet because it bumps off any box number or loses to a 7/11. It does win on 2/3 but you could just play the Any Craps bet for less at that point. I say let the board ride for a couple rolls before reinvesting in the DC. Might not be right, could absolutely be wrong, but that's how I'd play it. Thanks for time!
Looking at how "I Can't Believes This Wins" limits the amount of bets per Shooter. Could be you do the same thing here, tough to see one Shooter kill your Bankroll. See value in negative progression on each bet, but maybe limit total amount invested on each shoot, like in "Cold Table" (then let bets play out). When I'm stepping up a single DC, I've had luck just skipping one Box number (to get off a losing jag) ...just some suggestions P.S. interesting point, 40+ years at Craps tables and I've never seen anybody play like this
I'd appreciate your running the play with 4 quarters again. Alternating your Come and Don't Come and recycling your wins. $1000 bankroll for 10 shooters. A different rollout, if you will. You did it several months ago, and it worked quite well.
I run similar strat but with a key change is Flip the Switch. Have an event, count, limit to lay out place bets that setup 2-way win as U transition to light side play. Usually I'm full switch by roll 13-15.
Proud of you getting past your old saying of, “I don’t like the don’t!”😤 To answer Why this strategy works… 62% of all shooters 7-Out by point+6, which means 62% of the time, the game is “dark side” for the first 6 rolls After the point, overall. And 38% of the time, it is not. Next, you’re familiar with Baccarat and That game follows the laws of Quantum physics more “obviously“ than does craps. But they both follow the same laws of math and physics. Although a single card or a single roll of the dice can be equated to a “particle” and multiple cards or multiple rolls of the dice, although each is a single “particle”, the energy of the game of craps like the Entire Universe Is “waves”. There’s a Hugely important experiment called the “double slit” experiment which was to settle And did settle the scientific argument of: Is the Universe based on individual particles that follow no particular pattern and are purely random, or do the particles come together to form “Waves” of energy and function together, even as they “assemble” individually into a wave matrix?🤔 They function as “Waves”. Which is why craps have waves of “dark side” play that wins 62% and waves of “light side” play that wins 38% based on how the game is set up for the first 6 rolls after the point is set. In Baccarat and craps, you can play “come” or “player”, or play “don’t come” or “banker”. And there’s “waves” and WHEN you catch a wave 🌊 of play in either side, you “clean up”!😎😎👍👍 You have This strategy set up well, but you’re losing to a “Come-Out” 7 every six rolls. You may want to quadruple your “don’t” bet amount and “Lay” it on the 4 or 10 and you’re gonna go from losing each come- out 7 to winning each come-out 7…each time. Because you took yourself from 1:6 loss to 1:12 loss. Some folks don’t like this because the 1:12 will “lose” $100 1/2 as often… so let’s run a “simulation”: Now, every 12 rolls, you’re losing at least $50 (25+25). You Lay the 4, instead of losing $25, you win $50…each and every come-out 7 plus you still have the $100 “Lay”. Difference between minus $25 and + $50 is $75… times 2 for 1:6 rolls in those 12 rolls=+$150. Okay… now you have that “loss” of the Lay 4… which is 1 in 12 @$100. So, you’re ahead $150 by Laying the 4 when those “come-out 7’s” hit, (1:6) minus the $100 for the 1:12 when the Lay 4 gets hit, or: $150-$100 = +$50 So, you don’t have to “fear the 7” and you can actually say “7” now because that “fear” is gone. You can play the “Don’t”, and Win each time a 7 “hits”! Plus… every 12 rolls you’ll be ahead $50… on “average”… remember… there’s “waves” of energy and sometimes that’s gonna be up $200 or down $100, but overall, you’re gonna be ahead $50 on average each hour. Gonna stop there as this is a lot to take in. There is a universal language and that language is math. Math is the language of physics and physics and math are the rules of the entire universe, including our chosen game of math… Craps. Please keep up the good RUclips channel and your kind way of showing players dark side and light side play. You may want to consider making strategies that… say… play to the greater probability of “dark side” play in the first point+6 rolls, and adding in a transition to light side play… because you “know” there’s an intermediate roll of 13-18, and one 20+ roll about every hour. Wanna transition from “dark side” to “light side” and enjoy those long rolls… especially the Monster Rolls over 30-60-90 plus minutes that Every Craps player lives for!😎👍👍
Ive watched you play this out a few times and yes you can make money but if i calculated correctly every time ive seen you do this strat if you played your cold table strat you would come out with similar if not better results.
Got use the odds eventually. I'd make a rule for it. No 6/8 odds and only go in on odds on levels 2 and 3. Single odds on level 2 and 2x odds on level 3.
Why not play where you don't lose to a number like a six or eight but once. If the dc bet goes and knocks a number off, then place it, if it hits again don't let that number beat you more than once to a shooter. You still play the other numbers. Just a thought! If the numbers aren't repeating then it doesn't enter into the the game play.
Agree. When a number, especially 6 or 8 keeps hitting, play that number… the “energy” wave 🌊 of the game is moving from D/C to play. Even for folks who don’t like to play the “hard ways”… after a shooter has hit 3 or 4 or 5 “hard ways”…Strong probability they’re gonna hit a few more… again… there’s “waves” 🌊 of energy to Craps: follow the energy and win!👍👍
I've played this method many times at casino. Exactly the same play. I've also run computer models for results. It's not 95% win. It's about 69% win. You will get killed on continuous number shooters.
You could but what I have found is a long roll can kill you only happened twice to me so far but you don’t know when it will happen. I am trying to incorporate this into another strategy I am working on it and my last few videos I’ve been trying it but I think I’m getting closer to the ultimate craps Strategy.
Add odds to your DP, at least for the first roll, so when there is a PSO you actually make money instead of breaking even, even 30 odds will win 25,20,15.
You have to consider the odds payout on the dark side isn’t nearly as good compared to the light side, as they’ll always be less than just having a larger pass line bet. (Don’t get me wrong… I’m a max odds on the dark side guy) but I know crappy likes to minimize his odds bets :)
@@BigWinWinter Yeah I get that, progressing the flat is always best but in the case when he has DP and DC once a point is established he should be trying to win on every roll since the DP and DC is a wash when the 7 comes so even for a conservative player maybe just 30 odds for that 1 roll then take the odds down once your DC travels, as a Darkside player I've learned the PSO is where we make a lot of money on the early rolls.
@@censr1 indeed and yes we do, I’m in total agreement with you :) I actually put out a video on pass / don’t pass, with odds and no odds to test through all 4 scenarios at once :) no DC for the video since I was already testing 4 things but I’ll do a come/DC one soon :)
@@censr1you are correct on your thinking. You can always pull your odds down at anytime. Have you ever wondered why the casino will let you do that lol
I've watched many of your videos and it seems like you always say to start with enough bank for 10 shooters. What do YOU do if your table is hot and your making a lot of money and the 10th shooter just 7'ed out. Do you walk away after the 10th shooter or continue on? I know you always have the option, but I'm curious as to what YOU do. Thanks!
am not a fan of DC bets, they can get knocked off by the 7, 11, repeating numbers and box numbers. if you're going to go with DP bets, make a big DP bet and bet a series of Come bets so you have the 7 and 11 working for you.
It look good so I thought I’d give it a try. The third shooter out of the box made five points with two come out 11s between them. No thanks on this one!!!!!!!!!!!
Can you pull down the don’t come bet after a 6 or 8 is rolled to a $30 or $24 place bet? I know 7 can be rolled on ANY roll and you do have an advantage still with a don’t come on the 6 or 8 but I think that variation should be considered if the shooter is hot
Never pull down a DP or DC bet. IF you feel the number is coming, just place it with an amount just under the DP/DC bet and win either way..granted it will be a smaller win, but you did the hard work on the come out for the point by overcoming the 7&11.
@@bogeys1242 yea agreed. If you want to pull it down… throw a place bet out there for some extra protection. A don’t in play is mathematically in your favor.
@@cryptopharmacist7983 I mean you don’t HAVE to hedge but if you do… your guaranteed a win. So like 25 on a DC on a 6, you could do a $24 place bet and be guaranteed to win if a 6 OR a 7 comes out. (Or factor on whatever amount you want to play) it’s rare to have a guaranteed win, we would often do that on repeaters or All Tall small, where we lay the final number, no matter what we will win. :)
The Don't comes up 48%-52% of the time. You may want to start with the 5-count Don't system. Every system works on occasion and that same system will fail on occasion. Old saying that the pros know: "All right bettors die broke" Good Luck at the tables. P.S If the shooter start to roll numbers ( the 8) place a few numbers and then come down.
Played for over an hour on $1 bubble craps with $60 start. 200+ rolls. Basically broke even. Was never down or up more than about 1/2. Great for comps. Think of trying on a $10 real table with $500 bankroll.
I did try maxing out 4&10 odds on my second try and made a huge difference. Wasn’t sure what to do when they got knocked off so just kept maxing. Went broke quick. Might work with I’d say double or triple the bankroll but a lot riskier
Hey CRAPPY ! I play a similar strategy, EXCEPT I limit my bets to 4 per shooter. I start my play from the DC, AFTER a come out point is set, This way I won't get caught by a STRING of 7's and 11's by one shooter. As a DARK SIDE most of my life ,I have found that each player rolls the dice differently, so there a BETTER chance of 7 outs. I found that FLAT betting works best me, and living here in VEGAS, time is on my side. If I GRIND out a $100 or $200 a day I'm done for the day. ( Try RUNNING this system AGAIN, except also play a FLAT BET at the same time for a comparision.)
wowww...that was a lot of fun
Crappy's Simulator needs to switch dice out periodically like casinos do between shooters. I think this strategy is the best for hanging out with the dealers and making no money. I watched the whole run, thanks!
Play the DP and then place the inside numbers after the point. The first hit will pay for the don't come. The next hit will start the continuous don't strategy with each new don't come replacing the placed number; e.g., if a 5 hits, you get paid, the don't becomes a contract bet, and the placed bet is removed. At this point, profit can be collected or can be reinvested to buy/place numbers that aren't covered; such as the 4 and 10 - provided they aren't the point. The don't come is replaced after every role. This essentially works to catch the first hit, pay for more opportunity, and then swap to the dark side as the shooter progresses. That seven will show eventually.
If a 6 or 8 hits first, tower the results into the other for the first hit.
a don't come bet is not a contract bet...... same as the don't pass line bet is not a contract bet, they can be taken down at any time if you wish.....
Do you pull off one of the inside numbers after your first hit? Or do you leave it on and also bet the don't come?
Hey Crappy, love your videos.
I noticed at the end of the last shooter you had all the numbers covered with Don't Pass and Don't Come... and you still placed another DC. That DC after all numbers are covered is pretty much a losing bet because it bumps off any box number or loses to a 7/11. It does win on 2/3 but you could just play the Any Craps bet for less at that point. I say let the board ride for a couple rolls before reinvesting in the DC. Might not be right, could absolutely be wrong, but that's how I'd play it. Thanks for time!
Watch Vince Armenti to answer all your questions about his DC Grinder . When placed DC is knocked off it is paid by point hit .
Looking at how "I Can't Believes This Wins" limits the amount of bets per Shooter. Could be you do the same thing here, tough to see one Shooter kill your Bankroll.
See value in negative progression on each bet, but maybe limit total amount invested on each shoot, like in "Cold Table" (then let bets play out).
When I'm stepping up a single DC, I've had luck just skipping one Box number (to get off a losing jag) ...just some suggestions
P.S. interesting point, 40+ years at Craps tables and I've never seen anybody play like this
I'd appreciate your running the play with 4 quarters again. Alternating your Come and Don't Come and recycling your wins. $1000 bankroll for 10 shooters.
A different rollout, if you will. You did it several months ago, and it worked quite well.
I run similar strat but with a key change is Flip the Switch. Have an event, count, limit to lay out place bets that setup 2-way win as U transition to light side play. Usually I'm full switch by roll 13-15.
Baccarat the pass line with the don’t pass but keep the DC going as the same . Follow the trend . So say Waylon
I mean it may not have been crazy profit but you would still be having fun and racking up comps.
You did hit your 5 Bills tho 💸
Throw the dice hard enough for the seven to show...six sides of the dice...give them all a chance..
Proud of you getting past your
old saying of, “I don’t like the don’t!”😤
To answer Why this strategy works… 62% of all shooters 7-Out by point+6, which means 62% of the time, the game is “dark side” for the first 6 rolls After the point, overall.
And 38% of the time, it is not.
Next, you’re familiar with Baccarat and That game follows the laws of Quantum physics more
“obviously“ than does craps. But they both follow the same laws of math and physics.
Although a single card or a single roll of the dice can be equated to a “particle” and multiple cards or multiple rolls of the dice, although each is a single “particle”, the energy of the game of craps like the Entire Universe Is “waves”.
There’s a Hugely important experiment called the “double slit” experiment which was to settle And did settle the scientific argument of: Is the Universe based on individual particles that follow no particular pattern and are purely random, or do the particles come together to form “Waves” of energy and function together, even as they “assemble” individually into a wave matrix?🤔
They function as “Waves”. Which is why craps have waves of “dark side” play that wins 62% and waves of “light side” play that wins 38% based on how the game is set up for the first 6 rolls after the point is set.
In Baccarat and craps, you can play “come” or “player”, or play “don’t come” or “banker”. And there’s “waves” and WHEN you catch a wave 🌊 of play in either side, you “clean up”!😎😎👍👍
You have This strategy set up well, but you’re losing to a “Come-Out” 7 every six rolls. You may want to quadruple your “don’t” bet amount and “Lay” it on the 4 or 10 and you’re gonna go from losing each come- out 7 to winning each come-out 7…each time. Because you took yourself from 1:6 loss to 1:12 loss.
Some folks don’t like this because the 1:12 will “lose” $100 1/2 as often… so let’s run a “simulation”:
Now, every 12 rolls, you’re losing at least $50 (25+25). You Lay the 4, instead of losing $25, you win $50…each and every come-out 7 plus you still have the $100 “Lay”. Difference between minus $25 and + $50 is $75… times 2 for 1:6 rolls in those 12 rolls=+$150.
Okay… now you have that “loss” of the Lay 4… which is 1 in 12 @$100. So, you’re ahead $150 by Laying the 4 when those “come-out 7’s” hit, (1:6) minus the $100 for the 1:12 when the Lay 4 gets hit, or:
$150-$100 = +$50
So, you don’t have to “fear the 7” and you can actually say “7” now because that “fear” is gone. You can play the “Don’t”, and Win each time a 7 “hits”!
Plus… every 12 rolls you’ll be ahead $50… on “average”… remember… there’s “waves” of energy and sometimes that’s gonna be up $200 or down $100, but overall, you’re gonna be ahead $50 on average each hour.
Gonna stop there as this is a lot to take in. There is a universal language and that language is math. Math is the language of physics and physics and math are the rules of the entire universe, including our chosen game of math… Craps.
Please keep up the good RUclips channel and your kind way of showing players dark side and light side play.
You may want to consider making strategies that… say… play to the greater probability of “dark side” play in the first point+6 rolls, and adding in a transition to light side play… because you “know” there’s an intermediate roll of 13-18, and one 20+ roll about every hour.
Wanna transition from “dark side” to “light side” and enjoy those long rolls… especially the Monster Rolls over 30-60-90 plus minutes that Every Craps player lives for!😎👍👍
Ive watched you play this out a few times and yes you can make money but if i calculated correctly every time ive seen you do this strat if you played your cold table strat you would come out with similar if not better results.
Can't be more simple !
Got use the odds eventually. I'd make a rule for it. No 6/8 odds and only go in on odds on levels 2 and 3. Single odds on level 2 and 2x odds on level 3.
TWEAKS
Nice win
Always remember that it can fail. Lol
Why not play where you don't lose to a number like a six or eight but once. If the dc bet goes and knocks a number off, then place it, if it hits again don't let that number beat you more than once to a shooter. You still play the other numbers. Just a thought! If the numbers aren't repeating then it doesn't enter into the the game play.
Agree. When a number, especially 6 or 8 keeps hitting, play that number… the “energy” wave 🌊 of the game is moving from D/C to play.
Even for folks who don’t like to play the “hard ways”… after a shooter has hit 3 or 4 or 5 “hard ways”…Strong probability they’re gonna hit a few more… again… there’s “waves” 🌊 of energy to Craps: follow the energy and win!👍👍
Love that logic, and I'm a big DC fan.
Crappy you are hilarious brother! Love your vids
Do it on bubble craps, that thing spits out Sevens like crazy.
I've played this method many times at casino. Exactly the same play. I've also run computer models for results. It's not 95% win. It's about 69% win. You will get killed on continuous number shooters.
If you buy in for 500, would you bet less? Say, 15 on all bets instead of 25? Thanks so much for your videos!
You could but what I have found is a long roll can kill you only happened twice to me so far but you don’t know when it will happen. I am trying to incorporate this into another strategy I am working on it and my last few videos I’ve been trying it but I think I’m getting closer to the ultimate craps Strategy.
Super curious how you came up with a 95% wind rate figure
Add odds to your DP, at least for the first roll, so when there is a PSO you actually make money instead of breaking even, even 30 odds will win 25,20,15.
You have to consider the odds payout on the dark side isn’t nearly as good compared to the light side, as they’ll always be less than just having a larger pass line bet. (Don’t get me wrong… I’m a max odds on the dark side guy) but I know crappy likes to minimize his odds bets :)
@@BigWinWinter Yeah I get that, progressing the flat is always best but in the case when he has DP and DC once a point is established he should be trying to win on every roll since the DP and DC is a wash when the 7 comes so even for a conservative player maybe just 30 odds for that 1 roll then take the odds down once your DC travels, as a Darkside player I've learned the PSO is where we make a lot of money on the early rolls.
@@censr1 indeed and yes we do, I’m in total agreement with you :) I actually put out a video on pass / don’t pass, with odds and no odds to test through all 4 scenarios at once :) no DC for the video since I was already testing 4 things but I’ll do a come/DC one soon :)
@@censr1you are correct on your thinking. You can always pull your odds down at anytime. Have you ever wondered why the casino will let you do that lol
I need you to shoot my tables, I'll crush, with my strategy though. Sorry but thanks for posting the vid
Crapy try a game of coninuos donts with max odds on 4 and 10 only
If you lose 3 bets on the don’t come…..Switch and bet with the shooter…..
I've watched many of your videos and it seems like you always say to start with enough bank for 10 shooters. What do YOU do if your table is hot and your making a lot of money and the 10th shooter just 7'ed out. Do you walk away after the 10th shooter or continue on? I know you always have the option, but I'm curious as to what YOU do.
Thanks!
Based on watching his videos, I’d bet Crappy is walking out with the casino’s money!
But what about the continuous come method?
am not a fan of DC bets, they can get knocked off by the 7, 11, repeating numbers and box numbers. if you're going to go with DP bets, make a big DP bet and bet a series of Come bets so you have the 7 and 11 working for you.
It look good so I thought I’d give it a try. The third shooter out of the box made five points with two come out 11s between them.
No thanks on this one!!!!!!!!!!!
Why not lay odds?
Can you pull down the don’t come bet after a 6 or 8 is rolled to a $30 or $24 place bet? I know 7 can be rolled on ANY roll and you do have an advantage still with a don’t come on the 6 or 8 but I think that variation should be considered if the shooter is hot
Never pull down a DP or DC bet. IF you feel the number is coming, just place it with an amount just under the DP/DC bet and win either way..granted it will be a smaller win, but you did the hard work on the come out for the point by overcoming the 7&11.
@@bogeys1242 yea agreed. If you want to pull it down… throw a place bet out there for some extra protection. A don’t in play is mathematically in your favor.
Thanks guys… I guess it makes sense to hedge it for a smaller win
@@cryptopharmacist7983 I mean you don’t HAVE to hedge but if you do… your guaranteed a win. So like 25 on a DC on a 6, you could do a $24 place bet and be guaranteed to win if a 6 OR a 7 comes out. (Or factor on whatever amount you want to play) it’s rare to have a guaranteed win, we would often do that on repeaters or All Tall small, where we lay the final number, no matter what we will win. :)
@Big Jackpot Winter That's the smartest play in Craps. It only cost you the initial ATS bet and can not lose. Small investment, too.
Crappy you got a hole in your arm pit!!!
Actually there’s a hole in the armpit of the shirt…😳
His own armpit doesn’t seem to be bleeding or leaking… so his armpit is okay👍👍
I think I’ve had that shirt for 15 years lol
You couldn’t read it but it says in dog beers I’ve only had one
Crappy!!!