A great talk! Professor Baugh gives examples and insights of how dialects and accents come to speakers and then how (if) those different speech patterns help (or hurt) in community interactions. He uses good video backup - it is always helpful to watch West Side Story (and Johnnie Cochran). Thanks for posting this.
I haven't even finished watching when I already know this is what I've been looking for in a very long time. I had always struggled at school, shopping center, phone calls, hospitals and society itself at my accent or the way I emphasize my conversations yet I still struggle with that because I unconsciously speak in an accent that according to many people I know it sounds too natural or too standard accent. I never believe when people tell me that but I am starting to understand now what they and it's funny that when I tell people, in person, I don't know how to pronounce a word they would tell me oh don't worry it's fine if it sounds accented but it seems they say it because they do see my race and they just think I'm trying to replace my accent when I actually just don't know how to actually pronounce that word. I never expected to find a video like this ever yet I always kept my hopes somebody could feel identify with me, and it seems to me that they did. I appreciate it so much.
Very interesting talk. It's true, this kind of discrimination happens all over the world, and what is really strange to me that some accents are considered 'cute' and some push people away.
I agree. I lived in four different countries and noticed this about my accent and dialect. I too have biases about accents, which I feel everyone does to a degree. I think, for everyone, the biases generally ebb and flow with sociopolitical movements. For example, my American accent was more appreciated in South Korea, whereas the British accent was more favored in Singapore. The Southern accent was seen as cute in Japan while in Malaysia the British accent was favored. Personally, I like the South African accent the most. End rant
South Korea used to be a very closed community as a country/race until very recently in history however we also have seen minorities(those that have managed to come over from N. Korea or women working in service sectors that come from non-Seoul areas) stuggle to replace their accents. Thanks for the insight and the clip!
in addition to both 'colorism' (skin tone - light vs. dark) and 'facialism' (facial features - European vs. indigenous), there is another dimension with respect to 'Hispanic privilege' that is worth exploring in greater depth - 'linguistic profiling.' As a Mexican-American, i happen to speak like a Michigander solely as a means to destroy the preconceived stereotypical conventions that have long been ascribed about my fellow compatriots. i first traveled to Detroit, MI back in August 1983 with both my mother and my younger (half)-brother for two weeks to spend 'quality time' with a family whose brood of children my mother used to watch over prior to 1970. The only thing that i was able to do was to adhere to the 'social norms' - linguistic inflections; sartorial style; cultural tastes; etc. - of young white non-Hispanic Michiganders residing in both Macomb and Oakland Counties. The 'sensibilities' of the family matriarch - whom my mother has known for several decades - have always gravitated toward the Deep South. There were not that many Hispanics residing in both Macomb and Oakland Counties at that time. That is why i would never be inclined to characterize myself as a 'Chicano.' Because i speak like a Michigander, i have not experienced any type of discrimination on the basis of my ethnicity.
I don't live in the states but i find it interesting how so many Americans are so litigious, his thoughts were to perhaps sue but the country im from looks down on the fact that Americans sue so much. His talk was fascinating and would also like to bring to attention something a bit related in terms of discrimination being that im a petite blomde who's had to deal with the sexism involved bc of the medias stereotypes. I once purchased a pair of glasses that had no prescription lenses in order to be taken more seriously, amd it actually helped. There are unfortunately so many ppl who buy into media stereotypes or perhaps cultural ones also. I have many different friends from many different cultures and luckily we are all fairly educated amd this makes a difference also in the ways we interact. Edication is ao very important for a community to overcome a lot of biases
I'm Australian but my parents were English, I have joint citizenship, I look English. When I was working in England a few years ago I was told on two separate occasions to "go back where you came from" based solely on my accent. I understand exactly what he means.
I live in the UK. When I walk into Asian restaurants or take aways, the amount of over the top mocking of accents and also gestures is more common than many care to admit
I'm studying law in the UK and am very interested in the linguistic properties of legal language. The invisible structure and form that linguists can pinpoint and describe. What form of language is most used for linguistics?
linguistic Profiling is real. It is sad to say some accents are cool, some are "cringey" accents and speech patterns. Linguistic Profiling has a big influence on a person's economic status.
There is linguistic profiling (discrimination) at corporations based on: a- Racial cultural background. b- Accent for immigrants. c- Socioeconomic class even among same race: working class parents, boss raised by teachers/managers, no promotion. d- Use of managerial jargon vs natural English. All 4 should be illegal.
How could captions be added to this video? I'd like to us it in some online courses, but videos need to have closed captioning. Wonderful material otherwise!
Unfortunately this gentleman has pigeonholed his theory to race. Perhaps because that was his own experience or perhaps not… but it’s been my experience, as an Australian, that although my everyday manner of speech is very relaxed (I use slang terms, basic vocabulary, common grammar etc) if I conduct a professional call I adopt a more professional tone & vocabulary. This was confirmed for myself when in a Chef pre apprenticeship study group that was responsible to find our own employment, myself & another girl were contacting the same employer. She went first & she didn’t adopt a professional approach, to which she was told “sorry we will only accept an apprentice studying at particular college (not the one we studied at). I called & was open about where I was studying, but my manner was professional. I got an interview & subsequently the job.
it is because most people with those accents are bad renters from past experience. That is how life works. Everyone does it. All jobs do it. When so many people with those accents do not pay rent then people learn to not let those renters rent. If you came looking like a poor slob they would determine that you could not pay your rent. That is common sense.
@@Hervebutoyi i am not debating, I would not take the risk, but u can if u rent out to them, it gets old fast having people you can not get rid of not paying
The best linguistic TED talk, with the excellent professor Baugh. Thanks, professor. Cassie, from Dallas TX
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A great talk! Professor Baugh gives examples and insights of how dialects and accents come to speakers and then how (if) those different speech patterns help (or hurt) in community interactions. He uses good video backup - it is always helpful to watch West Side Story (and Johnnie Cochran). Thanks for posting this.
12:20 I was waiting for the show of his linguistic versatility. Great talk! Amazing voice too. I wish I had such control.
That's his signature move!
This information was so complete. Professor Baugh gave an excellent speech!
I’m really glad my teacher recommended this
I haven't even finished watching when I already know this is what I've been looking for in a very long time. I had always struggled at school, shopping center, phone calls, hospitals and society itself at my accent or the way I emphasize my conversations yet I still struggle with that because I unconsciously speak in an accent that according to many people I know it sounds too natural or too standard accent. I never believe when people tell me that but I am starting to understand now what they and it's funny that when I tell people, in person, I don't know how to pronounce a word they would tell me oh don't worry it's fine if it sounds accented but it seems they say it because they do see my race and they just think I'm trying to replace my accent when I actually just don't know how to actually pronounce that word. I never expected to find a video like this ever yet I always kept my hopes somebody could feel identify with me, and it seems to me that they did. I appreciate it so much.
Hope you better days ahead and health. Hope you're doing okay.
I feel u
Watching this video for school. Okay professor I see you tryna put the students up on game 😉
Great professor!! I wish he would elaborate on what he meant by “greater linguistic unity” at the very end.
Very interesting talk. It's true, this kind of discrimination happens all over the world, and what is really strange to me that some accents are considered 'cute' and some push people away.
I agree. I lived in four different countries and noticed this about my accent and dialect. I too have biases about accents, which I feel everyone does to a degree. I think, for everyone, the biases generally ebb and flow with sociopolitical movements. For example, my American accent was more appreciated in South Korea, whereas the British accent was more favored in Singapore. The Southern accent was seen as cute in Japan while in Malaysia the British accent was favored. Personally, I like the South African accent the most. End rant
Linguistic Profiling is VERY real.
South Korea used to be a very closed community as a country/race until very recently in history however we also have seen minorities(those that have managed to come over from N. Korea or women working in service sectors that come from non-Seoul areas) stuggle to replace their accents. Thanks for the insight and the clip!
in addition to both 'colorism' (skin tone - light vs. dark) and 'facialism' (facial features - European vs. indigenous), there is another dimension with respect to 'Hispanic privilege' that is worth exploring in greater depth - 'linguistic profiling.' As a Mexican-American, i happen to speak like a Michigander solely as a means to destroy the preconceived stereotypical conventions that have long been ascribed about my fellow compatriots. i first traveled to Detroit, MI back in August 1983 with both my mother and my younger (half)-brother for two weeks to spend 'quality time' with a family whose brood of children my mother used to watch over prior to 1970. The only thing that i was able to do was to adhere to the 'social norms' - linguistic inflections; sartorial style; cultural tastes; etc. - of young white non-Hispanic Michiganders residing in both Macomb and Oakland Counties. The 'sensibilities' of the family matriarch - whom my mother has known for several decades - have always gravitated toward the Deep South. There were not that many Hispanics residing in both Macomb and Oakland Counties at that time. That is why i would never be inclined to characterize myself as a 'Chicano.' Because i speak like a Michigander, i have not experienced any type of discrimination on the basis of my ethnicity.
I don't live in the states but i find it interesting how so many Americans are so litigious, his thoughts were to perhaps sue but the country im from looks down on the fact that Americans sue so much. His talk was fascinating and would also like to bring to attention something a bit related in terms of discrimination being that im a petite blomde who's had to deal with the sexism involved bc of the medias stereotypes. I once purchased a pair of glasses that had no prescription lenses in order to be taken more seriously, amd it actually helped. There are unfortunately so many ppl who buy into media stereotypes or perhaps cultural ones also. I have many different friends from many different cultures and luckily we are all fairly educated amd this makes a difference also in the ways we interact. Edication is ao very important for a community to overcome a lot of biases
Interesting talk
I'm Australian but my parents were English, I have joint citizenship, I look English. When I was working in England a few years ago I was told on two separate occasions to "go back where you came from" based solely on my accent.
I understand exactly what he means.
Terrific presentation
incredibly intersting talk!
Great speech!
I live in the UK.
When I walk into Asian restaurants or take aways, the amount of over the top mocking of accents and also gestures is more common than many care to admit
This is powerful! I knew that this existed but I did not know how to articulate it. AAVE
That fair housing PSA could never be produced today.
Love this!
I'm studying law in the UK and am very interested in the linguistic properties of legal language. The invisible structure and form that linguists can pinpoint and describe. What form of language is most used for linguistics?
linguistic Profiling is real. It is sad to say some accents are cool, some are "cringey" accents and speech patterns. Linguistic Profiling has a big influence on a person's economic status.
Only 14 comments for this amazing talk? I'm an Egyptian and I like this video, and will bestow upon it my own Jojo reference, YES I'M!
There is linguistic profiling (discrimination) at corporations based on:
a- Racial cultural background.
b- Accent for immigrants.
c- Socioeconomic class even among same race: working class parents, boss raised by teachers/managers, no promotion.
d- Use of managerial jargon vs natural English.
All 4 should be illegal.
How could captions be added to this video? I'd like to us it in some online courses, but videos need to have closed captioning. Wonderful material otherwise!
There is a button that says cc. It turned into closed captioning. I hope this helps!
@@SuperizzleLlove Thanks. It does!
I want to ax him a question 🙋♀️
@1:52 man. That transcription is incorrect. There is no /g/ for example. There are more. Now let me go listen. P.s. broad incorrect.
Orwell said every Englishman is branded in the mouth.
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Unfortunately this gentleman has pigeonholed his theory to race. Perhaps because that was his own experience or perhaps not… but it’s been my experience, as an Australian, that although my everyday manner of speech is very relaxed (I use slang terms, basic vocabulary, common grammar etc) if I conduct a professional call I adopt a more professional tone & vocabulary. This was confirmed for myself when in a Chef pre apprenticeship study group that was responsible to find our own employment, myself & another girl were contacting the same employer. She went first & she didn’t adopt a professional approach, to which she was told “sorry we will only accept an apprentice studying at particular college (not the one we studied at). I called & was open about where I was studying, but my manner was professional. I got an interview & subsequently the job.
it is because most people with those accents are bad renters from past experience. That is how life works. Everyone does it. All jobs do it. When so many people with those accents do not pay rent then people learn to not let those renters rent. If you came looking like a poor slob they would determine that you could not pay your rent. That is common sense.
I get the argument, but does that mean that you should not be given a chance?
@@Hervebutoyi i am not debating, I would not take the risk, but u can if u rent out to them, it gets old fast having people you can not get rid of not paying
@@Hervebutoyi how many chances? People get jaded