Class 83001 Present and Accounted for! We were commissioned Feb. 11, 1983. We were in King Hall, New Port, RI. It looks like OCS has changed a lot since our days there. We had 2-man staterooms and definitely no reefers and microwaves in our rooms back then! :) Good memories though. I stayed in New Port for SWOS and MPA school before I went to the Fleet in San Diego. Good times!
We got commissioned in Oct 10, 1956. Your class had it made with 2-man staterooms. We had barracks for 70 per and you are complaining about reefers and microwaves. Pretty soon, candidates will be put up at the Breakers and at the rest of the mansions in Newport.
@@howellwong11 Definitely. Each generation must have had progressively easier conditions, no doubt. Good to hear from officers of different era's. For the record, I wasn't complaining, just pointing out we didn't have them. Hmm, were microwaves even in use in 1982. :)
I didn't find the curriculum difficult in general, more or less high school level. The difference was the volume of work. You need to learn to prioritize, and make every minute count. The only course I had difficulty was celestial navigation, i.e. thinking three dimensional. I passed with the help of a Navy P3 pilot as tutor, but I had him face down and pounding his fist in desperation a few times. ;-) Disclaimer: I graduated in 1980. "High school level" back then was different. If you have a good education, and are fairly athletic, you'll have no problem, as long as you determine before you enter OCS that there's no quitting, never give up, never back down, do what's necessary to succeed or die. FOCUS on your mission, which is passing. It isn't SEAL BUDS, but their attitude isn't a bad way to approach OCS, either. You can't be fuzzy minded about your goals or requirements. OCS isn't something you "try" after college. Becoming a career Navy officer, commanding and supporting men and women in life or death situations, serving your country, upholding the traditions of the Navy, EVEN understanding it's core mission, must be important to you, or don't start. CDR, SC, USN, Ret.
Graduated in November. It's nothing college level, but be prepared to get a little hands on when you get to the navigation part. In terms of mathematical knowledge, I'm not kidding when I say you'll be fine if you know the absolute basics of angles, addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
Yes and no. *Yes,* in that some of the best officers were prior enlisted (Mustangs). They already know what to expect in training; they already understand how the military works; they already know their role; they already know how enlisted jobs function; and they have a better leadership ethos. They also tend to be less stuck-up arrogant pricks and are more humble about their knowledge. Adjusting to officer life is a cakewalk for prior enlisted. They also seem to genuinely understand and care more for their junior Sailors. In my honest opinion, every officer should have been enlisted and served as such for at least one year before going to the O-ranks, regardless of their education. In terms of actually being selected for officership, *it depends.* Enlisted service does make you stand out to Officer recruiters (or OSOs), but it now creates an area of emphasis for them to scrutinize, which means previous service can also backfire. If you were enlisted but had a shitty record, got informally disciplined/counseled more than once, ever received NJP/DRB/XOI/MAST, or academic or performance issues, failed advancement exams, failed a PRT (which should never happen), or didn't progress above E-4, it makes it less likely. It looks bad. It makes them want to know WHY, and remember, "there is no excuse," as the responsibility is YOURS. But if your reasoning isn't valid or understandable, forget about that commissioning. (Although a cumulative GPA above a 3.8 can redeem you.) In my honest opinion, if you want to be an officer, you need to learn to be humble, want to put the lives of those in command before your own, and always take responsibility for your actions. I suggest watching some of Jocko Willink's videos if you wanna be an officer but prefer not to enlist. Me personally? I'd have finished college first and THEN commissioned. Enlisting really set me back in some ways, but I don't regret doing it - if that makes sense. While I'd still have commissioned AFTER college (if I could), enlisting matured me in ways that one couldn't possibly imagine. The intangible rewards of joining are *PRICELESS.* Mark my words. In short however, *YES,* it is EASIER of getting into OCS if you're straight out of college, with great grades, and little history. (The problem is that grades don't necessarily make it clear that you'd be a good officer.) Just do your homework and know what you're signing up for. But once you sign, commit to it, give it your all, swallow your pride, and TAKE CARE of those to your left and right. Good luck!!!
I know this is old, but to those who see this in the future NROTC is college level, and that's what gets you to becoming a Naval Officer NJROTC is just a high school program If anything it just gets you up to E3 in the Navy or some other pay grade in other branches
Anyone know if you have to be super smart at stuff like physics and math to be a submarine officer? I'd like to be, but I'm terrible at physics and math.
German Hockey just letting you know, it's all about how bad you want to become a submarine officer. If you dedicate yourself to study and improve you have a chance to become a submarine officer. Everyone can be smart, it just depends how much work you put into it. Oh and your GPA is a big thing too that can help you.
Is there a certain degree that makes you more desirable to get into OCS? Just got through boot camp and am a reservist so that I can get my degree and then apply for OCS going active duty
Really amazing video! I have a question: I am a US citizen. I just have a foreign 4-year degree. If I evaluate my degree by an accredited US evaluation service, do I have a chance of applying for an officer?
So I am in a program that will help you get a job in armed forces and some other ones and by the end of the program were I am no longer able to be in it because of age if I get 18 college credits I can go into the navy as a officer
NROTC has its own curriculum that all students must complete in addition to their major, so you'll be taking extra classes including calculus, physics, and a bunch of Navy specific classes like Navigation and leadership courses. When you go to OCS, you already have your degree and do not necessarily have to have completed the classes required in NROTC. I do not think one is better over the other for becoming a pilot, though a fair few people may get "Nuke drafted" (are told to become nuclear power submarine or surface officers) in ROTC despite whatever warfare specialty they chose, and I do not think it is as likely to get Nuke drafted in OCS, since they are choosing you based off the requirements you fulfill ahead of time e.g. you go into OCS already listed for aviation and having completed the ASTB, though ultimately the Navy can do whatever they want with you.
It doesn't really matter. The only thing I can possibly think of is that the chance of getting "Nuke Drafted" in ROTC is probably higher (being told to be a nuclear power officer despite whatever you chose for your desired warfare specialty). Whereas in OCS, the Navy takes you from a broad range of applicants already knowing what warfare specialties they desire.
+Christina Serrano Yes,Anyone who want's to join the Navy has to know how to swim,and has to pass the swimming test,the reason being they have that is because there are jobs in the navy that involves swimming like Diving,and being a navy seal,and also because just in-case if a ship sinks,the sailors will know how to swim to save their lives,and somebody else's life.But don't worry a Navy ship has never sank,so you have nothing to worry about,and plus the Navy has the best captains that drives the ship,so yeah you have nothing to worry about
Lmao the U.S. Navy has became more advanced and that means more advanced ships, so there is a low chance of a Navy ship sinking. Might want to revise your comment.
Oh hell yes, and it's hard. Learn how to swim and float on your belly for five minutes before joining. Otherwise, look to the Army or Air Force. (Marine also have a swim component but it's not as hard despite looking more intimidating.)
Not as an officer. You'd need to become a citizen first and likely renounce your foreign citizenship. Then, maybe. It's relatively easy to enlist in the Navy or Army (not USAF) if you are a legal permanent resident of the United States. Don't even bother trying to go intelligence though.
BlastFromYesterday rotc and the USNA are both ways to become an officer meaning if you want to be an officer but never went through rotc or the academy OCS is the place for those people
Mitchell Smith so, you're saying that if I take NROTC in college for a course of four years, when I graduate, I'm automatically an officer and assigned to a ship, with no OCS required?
Viewing the world through a racialist lens must be tiresome. But no, there are plenty of Blacks who are in the service. (And yes, they perform as well as everyone else. And vice versa.) Yes, this ceremony was majority White but it's because the country is still majority White - and that's okay. Complaining about how White the military is makes you almost by definition, racist. Stop complaining.
I don’t think you’re being racist, I’m taking this comment , as if you’re calling out the navy for the lack of black people as officers so out of guilt they place him to open up. So in other words you’re calling the navy out on their bullshit. And not trying to be racist, am I right?
I graduated from OCS two years. It has already changed so much since then!
JamMasterJB I want to put in a packet for OCS. Is the bootcamp process difficult?
How hard is the mathematics?
@@Tastybathwater1 prepare to do some differential equations and linear algebra
🎉Congratulations🎉 🤟♥️⚓️♥️🤟
Sir pinoy po pala kayo. May IG po ba kayo? May itatanong lang po sana ako regarding sa Ocs. Salamat po
Congrats! Definitely read "A Sea Story: Navy Officer Candidate School" before you ship out.
Lt. McDuffie did my phone interview to get into the NUPOC program.
I report to OCS next month.
How are you now?
@@Oichief I googled him he dropped from Nuke program but has a good job as engineer tho.
Dynamical System wait so he didn’t commission as on officer🤷♂️❓
@@mickfunny4185 I found him on linked in. No, he did not earn his commission.
The_OG_Smith ok thanks, fellow might want edit his comment from 6 years ago🤔
I just got my college degree to apply for naval officers academy. Here I come!
Congrats, you didn't take shortcuts.
Class 83001 Present and Accounted for! We were commissioned Feb. 11, 1983. We were in King Hall, New Port, RI. It looks like OCS has changed a lot since our days there. We had 2-man staterooms and definitely no reefers and microwaves in our rooms back then! :) Good memories though. I stayed in New Port for SWOS and MPA school before I went to the Fleet in San Diego. Good times!
We got commissioned in Oct 10, 1956. Your class had it made with 2-man staterooms. We had barracks for 70 per and you are complaining about reefers and microwaves. Pretty soon, candidates will be put up at the Breakers and at the rest of the mansions in Newport.
@@howellwong11 Definitely. Each generation must have had progressively easier conditions, no doubt. Good to hear from officers of different era's. For the record, I wasn't complaining, just pointing out we didn't have them. Hmm, were microwaves even in use in 1982. :)
I had the most respect for officers who had the enlisted good conduct ribbon on their rack..
Absolutely! Sea service ribbons as well.
I’ve got my grandfathers OCS yearbook from 1952
My dream! Working hard on it !
TH3PREVENT3R did you get in yet?
Did you get in yet?
Did you get in yet?
Did you get in yet?
How hard is the math and engineering at Navy OCS??
I didn't find the curriculum difficult in general, more or less high school level. The difference was the volume of work. You need to learn to prioritize, and make every minute count. The only course I had difficulty was celestial navigation, i.e. thinking three dimensional. I passed with the help of a Navy P3 pilot as tutor, but I had him face down and pounding his fist in desperation a few times. ;-) Disclaimer: I graduated in 1980. "High school level" back then was different. If you have a good education, and are fairly athletic, you'll have no problem, as long as you determine before you enter OCS that there's no quitting, never give up, never back down, do what's necessary to succeed or die. FOCUS on your mission, which is passing. It isn't SEAL BUDS, but their attitude isn't a bad way to approach OCS, either. You can't be fuzzy minded about your goals or requirements. OCS isn't something you "try" after college. Becoming a career Navy officer, commanding and supporting men and women in life or death situations, serving your country, upholding the traditions of the Navy, EVEN understanding it's core mission, must be important to you, or don't start. CDR, SC, USN, Ret.
Graduated in November. It's nothing college level, but be prepared to get a little hands on when you get to the navigation part.
In terms of mathematical knowledge, I'm not kidding when I say you'll be fine if you know the absolute basics of angles, addition, subtraction, multiplication, and division.
GO NAVY!
Congratulations Lt.!
Does being prior enlisted help a person get into OCS?
Yes and no.
*Yes,* in that some of the best officers were prior enlisted (Mustangs). They already know what to expect in training; they already understand how the military works; they already know their role; they already know how enlisted jobs function; and they have a better leadership ethos. They also tend to be less stuck-up arrogant pricks and are more humble about their knowledge. Adjusting to officer life is a cakewalk for prior enlisted. They also seem to genuinely understand and care more for their junior Sailors. In my honest opinion, every officer should have been enlisted and served as such for at least one year before going to the O-ranks, regardless of their education.
In terms of actually being selected for officership, *it depends.* Enlisted service does make you stand out to Officer recruiters (or OSOs), but it now creates an area of emphasis for them to scrutinize, which means previous service can also backfire. If you were enlisted but had a shitty record, got informally disciplined/counseled more than once, ever received NJP/DRB/XOI/MAST, or academic or performance issues, failed advancement exams, failed a PRT (which should never happen), or didn't progress above E-4, it makes it less likely. It looks bad. It makes them want to know WHY, and remember, "there is no excuse," as the responsibility is YOURS. But if your reasoning isn't valid or understandable, forget about that commissioning. (Although a cumulative GPA above a 3.8 can redeem you.)
In my honest opinion, if you want to be an officer, you need to learn to be humble, want to put the lives of those in command before your own, and always take responsibility for your actions. I suggest watching some of Jocko Willink's videos if you wanna be an officer but prefer not to enlist.
Me personally? I'd have finished college first and THEN commissioned. Enlisting really set me back in some ways, but I don't regret doing it - if that makes sense. While I'd still have commissioned AFTER college (if I could), enlisting matured me in ways that one couldn't possibly imagine. The intangible rewards of joining are *PRICELESS.* Mark my words.
In short however, *YES,* it is EASIER of getting into OCS if you're straight out of college, with great grades, and little history. (The problem is that grades don't necessarily make it clear that you'd be a good officer.)
Just do your homework and know what you're signing up for. But once you sign, commit to it, give it your all, swallow your pride, and TAKE CARE of those to your left and right. Good luck!!!
Do you need to do NROTC to be a navy officer or can you do NJROTC and be and officer?
I know this is old, but to those who see this in the future
NROTC is college level, and that's what gets you to becoming a Naval Officer
NJROTC is just a high school program
If anything it just gets you up to E3 in the Navy or some other pay grade in other branches
Anyone know if you have to be super smart at stuff like physics and math to be a submarine officer? I'd like to be, but I'm terrible at physics and math.
German Hockey just letting you know, it's all about how bad you want to become a submarine officer. If you dedicate yourself to study and improve you have a chance to become a submarine officer. Everyone can be smart, it just depends how much work you put into it. Oh and your GPA is a big thing too that can help you.
this is for young healthy people
Is there a certain degree that makes you more desirable to get into OCS? Just got through boot camp and am a reservist so that I can get my degree and then apply for OCS going active duty
It can be any degree, as long as it's a bachelor's.
Really amazing video! I have a question: I am a US citizen. I just have a foreign 4-year degree. If I evaluate my degree by an accredited US evaluation service, do I have a chance of applying for an officer?
Being an US citizen it is entirely possible. You should contact a recruiter today for more indepth information www.navy.com/start?activity=1228866
@@murkthemeek9575 Thank you for your reply! I hope so ~
Yes; provide the evaluation paperwork with your application.
@@johnpennacchio1176 Thanks so much!!
Did you send your package?
Do an OC has to do Boot camp if they don't have preview experience?
marshapov palacios I don't think so, but don't quote me on that.
Of course! Everyone goes through boot camp no matter what.
Connor Perone No, officer candidates only have to go through OCS, which is supposed to be a little tougher, generally, than boot camp.
+marshapov palacios No.
Dr. Logos You're right, my bad.
So I am in a program that will help you get a job in armed forces and some other ones and by the end of the program were I am no longer able to be in it because of age if I get 18 college credits I can go into the navy as a officer
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Which is better for becoming a pilot, OCS or NROTC? Please reply!
NROTC has its own curriculum that all students must complete in addition to their major, so you'll be taking extra classes including calculus, physics, and a bunch of Navy specific classes like Navigation and leadership courses. When you go to OCS, you already have your degree and do not necessarily have to have completed the classes required in NROTC. I do not think one is better over the other for becoming a pilot, though a fair few people may get "Nuke drafted" (are told to become nuclear power submarine or surface officers) in ROTC despite whatever warfare specialty they chose, and I do not think it is as likely to get Nuke drafted in OCS, since they are choosing you based off the requirements you fulfill ahead of time e.g. you go into OCS already listed for aviation and having completed the ASTB, though ultimately the Navy can do whatever they want with you.
It doesn't really matter. The only thing I can possibly think of is that the chance of getting "Nuke Drafted" in ROTC is probably higher (being told to be a nuclear power officer despite whatever you chose for your desired warfare specialty). Whereas in OCS, the Navy takes you from a broad range of applicants already knowing what warfare specialties they desire.
contact a recruiter. OCS and NROTC dont teach you how to be a pilot but how to be an officer in the Navy
Little difference. Talk to a recruiter.
Is there a swimming component?
+Christina Serrano Yes,Anyone who want's to join the Navy has to know how to swim,and has to pass the swimming test,the reason being they have that is because there are jobs in the navy that involves swimming like Diving,and being a navy seal,and also because just in-case if a ship sinks,the sailors will know how to swim to save their lives,and somebody else's life.But don't worry a Navy ship has never sank,so you have nothing to worry about,and plus the Navy has the best captains that drives the ship,so yeah you have nothing to worry about
Lmao my grandfather was on a US Navy ship that sank. Might want to revise your comment.
Lmao the U.S. Navy has became more advanced and that means more advanced ships, so there is a low chance of a Navy ship sinking. Might want to revise your comment.
Oh shoot I can't swim
Oh hell yes, and it's hard. Learn how to swim and float on your belly for five minutes before joining. Otherwise, look to the Army or Air Force.
(Marine also have a swim component but it's not as hard despite looking more intimidating.)
2:06 Must been an ordeal for this guy considering his glasses are all bent out of shape
dude rad!
thank you sir my ame is also want to became an navy officer
So, if I attend the USNA, do I still have to go to OCS?
Jared Clark No
Not for the Navy. If you go Marines, even if you are a midshipman in ROTC or at the USNA, you will have to take a shortened OCS course.
Only if you have a nose pimple.
Jared Clark No, when you graduate from USNA, you will be given the rank of Ensign or O-1
you attend naval academy
From other countries....they can join American navy
No, but maybe depending upon education, background and citizenship status, but most often, NO
Not as an officer. You'd need to become a citizen first and likely renounce your foreign citizenship. Then, maybe.
It's relatively easy to enlist in the Navy or Army (not USAF) if you are a legal permanent resident of the United States. Don't even bother trying to go intelligence though.
The word is "training" not "trainin"
Is there any support for family members MOM
WHEN NOT WANTING SON TO JOIN I HAVE FEARS
I hope the training has vastly improved since 1990s otherwise the US has problems
I don't understand why he says someone who goes to OCS is someone who didn't go to ROTC. After you graduate college while in ROTC you attend OCS..
BlastFromYesterday rotc and the USNA are both ways to become an officer meaning if you want to be an officer but never went through rotc or the academy OCS is the place for those people
Not always.
No, ROTC is OCS, but it's spread out over the 4 years of college. Then when you graduate college, you're commissioned as and O-1
Mitchell Smith so, you're saying that if I take NROTC in college for a course of four years, when I graduate, I'm automatically an officer and assigned to a ship, with no OCS required?
Crafty Gamers Yup
Give me us navy boyfriend ,now nah!hehe
Sus
This looks like rotc compared to enlisted 😂
lol, Entire graduation picture was White folk, so they get a black one to open this up. Classic.
MOOSEDOWNUNDER so true
Always someone who makes it about race. You fucks need a firing squad.
@@zoeith6 I'd have liked the comment if not for the call to violence.
Viewing the world through a racialist lens must be tiresome.
But no, there are plenty of Blacks who are in the service. (And yes, they perform as well as everyone else. And vice versa.) Yes, this ceremony was majority White but it's because the country is still majority White - and that's okay.
Complaining about how White the military is makes you almost by definition, racist. Stop complaining.
I don’t think you’re being racist, I’m taking this comment , as if you’re calling out the navy for the lack of black people as officers so out of guilt they place him to open up. So in other words you’re calling the navy out on their bullshit. And not trying to be racist, am I right?
2:07 foreign intelligence agent right there.. right in the middle of it.
Racist