Just put the 20/16 the other way around... Or make it 19/15... 18/14... the hell is fine that line... Dude, this is like reading the comics all over again...
mad that Peter was doing better at football tryouts than him because he basically only invited Peter to try to make himself look better, he probably thought that Peter would suck. If he didn't want the competition, he shouldn't have invited him in the first place, could've just told him to support him from the sidelines. Peter's football discussion "natural talent" was especially funny to hear. Looking forward to the next few episodes. Episodes 7 and 8 in particular. Here's a weird thing. A lot of official versions of this show have episode descriptions that don't match the episodes themselves, seemingly those of early concepts of the episodes. For example, the episode description for this episode claims Spider-man teams up with the Human Torch to beat Sandman. A fun thing about this show is how they occasionally introduce a character before they become a supervillain, and sometimes even change their name to throw off fans. Like making Montana from the Enforcers Shocker instead of Herman Schultz. Gotta love this take on Sandman, not out for revenge just in it for "the big score" Among a lot of characters this show has my favorite takes on Rhino and Jameson. It’s so easy to forget Jameson actually cares. Spectacular Spider-Man gets it. the situation really is a win/win/win for him. The Big Man funds his experiments and provides him with test subjects, when Spider-Man inevitably beats them Oscorp gets the contracts to repair any damage and build the necessary containment facilities, and should he discover any replicable methods of giving people powers he can sell them to the military JJJ didn't say the thing about only receiving emails from peter parker "just to protect his source." He might be abrasive, impatient, and have a weird hate boner for Spiderman and masked vigilantes, but he's a good man. He would NEVER endanger any of his employees, especially a minor like Peter. a good ol' brawl of strength vs strength but I also love it when the hero wins through intelligence and observation and this is a solid example. It's a weakness that's logical for Rhino to have but isn't super obvious and thus it makes Spider-Man actually seem intelligent for picking up on it. The thing about Betty and Peter is that if they are both consenting parties it shouldn’t be an issue, especially if the younger of the two is the one pushing for it That comes with the biggest BUT ever of “for a fall formal”, anything above that and it just becomes weird at best or criminal at worst. I don’t think anyone would’ve really cared if Betsy did go with Pete, but since Aunt May was trying her hardest to get Mary Jane with Peter because she’s the best aunt ever, she had to nip that in the bud. The age difference convo always gets me cause my Oldest brother is 11 years younger than his wife and she used to babysit him lmao Idk why they put the whole 20 yr old entertaining a 16 yr old subplot in there 😬 No 20 yr old woman is going to seriously entertain a 16 yr old boy. That was a bit creepy to add in. It sets weird expectations for the young audience this cartoon is aimed at. Among a lot of characters, this show has my favorite takes on Rhino and Jameson. It’s so easy to forget Jameson actually cares. Spectacular Spider-Man gets it. Jameson may have his faults, but good for him to protect Peter. I completely feel for Peter. I was a freshman dating a senior girl in my HS and went to her prom together amazing time, but I never got to go to my actual prom. But anyway my mother pulled the "you're too old for my son" talk with her and there went my short-lived relationship. She was one of the only girls I got to be myself around Classic! Great reaction Wave Crew! Lance Henrikson was also killed by all 3 monsters. The Spectacular Spider-Man 1x2 REACTION!! “Interactions” Blind Wave live-action.
@@WhiteFangofWar I liked the PS4 version that had the one villain who seemed to show true respect for Spidey, especially with how he was characterized in the sequel.
@animeguykurosaki1 Yeah, plus he was interesting in how he was completely willing to go straight if it meant being paid well for it. (The soup kitchen line to be precise.)
And funnily enough The Big Man was a villain in the early comics, and he turned out to be Fredrick Foswell from the Bugle - the guy in this show who was stuck in the elevator with Rhino and makes other appearances later in the series
I understand I'm biased, since this series was my first real introduction to Spider-man, but I prefer Tombstone in this role. I also loved Kingpin in Spiderverse, but despite filling the same roles basically, they have very different vibes about them and I just love this portrayal. I also love the idea that this crime lord walks around in broad daylight looking like the vampire shark supervillain he is, but all his public actions paint him as a good man who helps the needy. Almost helps hide his nature since while his appearance draws attention, he can more easily brush off any unwanted accusations as people being scared of how he looks.
@@WolforNuvaI feel it’s an issue with how kingpin can be seen as super goofy if the writers don’t do him justice. Daredevil the series captures the same feel as this series for me, a villain that feels both intelligent and threatening.
I love how Calvin mentioned looking for anagrams for like Lincoln. Aaron mentioned how O’Hirn sounded like a horn, but no one actually caught O’Hirn is an anagram for Rhino.🦏
Tombstone is an albino African American, real name Lonnie Lincoln, he was ostracized most of his life, until he got bigger than most other people then he become sadistic and violent, he then used his appearance to frighten people specifically making some people think he’s a vampire, he starts out as a mob enforcer and killer, later in life an accident causes him to get similar powers to Luke Cage with invulnerability and super strength, usually from there he’s depicted as being the head of his own criminal organization when he’s not out fighting street level superheroes
JJJ didn't say the thing about only receiving emails from peter parker "just to protect his source." He might be abrasive, impatient, and have a weird hate boner for Spiderman and masked vigilantes, but he's a good man. He would NEVER endanger any of his employees, especially a minor like peter.
@@CLDJ227 well Tombstone is “usually” albino but there’s a difference between being pale an albino Calvin is Pale, but he doesn’t have bleach white skin
Osborne’s situation really is a win/win/win for him. The Big Man funds his experiments and provides him with test subjects, when Spider-Man inevitably beats them Oscorp get the contracts to repair any damage and build the necessary containment facilities and should he discover any replicable methods of giving people powers he can sell it to the military
Doctor Otto Octavius was actually first seen in the very first episode with Adrian Toomes (who would later become the Vulture), just before Norman Osborne showed up. As for Alex O’Hirn, “O’Hirn” is an anagram for “Rhino”.
alonzo "lonnie" lincon was mobster who.used to bully robbie robertson and other kids back in school days "face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot" line was taken directly from amazing spiderman #42 fun fact: in the comics before her full introduction, her face was all ways obsecured
I completely feel for peter. I was a freshman dating a senior girl in my HS and went to her prom together amazing time, i never got to go to my actual prom. But anyway my mother pulled the "you're too old for my son" talk with her and there went my short lived relationship. She was one of the only girls i got to be myself around
Among a lot of characters this show has my favorite takes on Rhino and Jameson. It’s so easy to forget Jameson actually cares. Spectacular Spider-Man gets it.
I love me a good ol' brawl of strength vs strength but I also love when the hero wins through intelligence and observation and this is a solid example. It's a weakness that's logical for Rhino to have but isn't super obvious and thus it makes Spider-Man actually seem intelligent for picking up on it.
Clancy Brown’s a national treasure!! It’s incredible that he voiced both Rhino and George Stacy!! On another note, we get to see the Big Man!! (Originally Kingpin was gonna be the villain but they couldn’t use him due to copyright issues)
When I first saw that scene whit Tombstone, it really feels like a very dangerous villain, not whit the crazy powers that the other villains so far, but still whit battle capability, resources and most important, the influence and planning that at the end, gives him this advantage position in the society that even media and the security sees him as a model civilian Since I’ve watch this series always in Spanish, see it again whit the og voices hits very different but still fresh, Keith David voice for L Thompson is very menacing yet chill too, love the work the man did here
I love how this show is obviously leading up to the sinister six, and man, is it handled well. We even saw the 3 crooks that would become the Rhino, Sandman, and Shocker long before they got their powers.
Fun Fact: Both Spider-Man and Harry Osborn's VAs played each other's characters in the Spider-Man: Friend or Foe video game. Josh Keaton voiced Harry Osborn/New Goblin in the game, whereas he plays Peter Parker/Spider-Man in Spectacular Spider-Man. And James Arnold Taylor played Peter Parker/Spider Man in Friend or Foe, but played Harry Osborn in Spectacular Spider-Man. I think both this show and the game were made around the same time as each other.
Now we get to see the face of the Big Man, AKA Tombstone. I've lost count at how many people thought he was supposed to be Kingpin when they watched the first episode, so it always puts a smile on my face when they reach this episode. Though the show WAS originally going to use Kingpin but they couldn't since his rights were sort of tied up with 20th Century Fox thanks to him becoming Daredevil's archenemy since the 80s (despite being introduced as a Spider-Man villain first in the 60s). I'm not complaining though, Tombstone in the comics was more of a henchman so he got an upgrade here. And what an introduction he had. We just saw Peter take down the Rhino but "a pale guy in a suit" laid him out in 2 seconds. The moment where Tombstone offers him a job with a briefcase full of money with the condition that he look the other way for some small crimes is probably one of my favorite line deliveries from Josh Keaton with "I can't ever look the other way again." You can tell that line has SO much emotion behind it for Peter and is a testament to Keaton's talent as a voice actor. Speaking of face reveals, the cherry on top moment for this episode, we FINALLY get to see Mary Jane after the constant teasing since episode 4. Greg Weisman and co. really loved the comics when they made this show, and does it show with how they built up MJ's reveal EXACTLY like how she was introduced in the 60s Lee/Ditko run with her being a faceless character (besides one instance where Betty and Liz saw her face and thought she "looks like a screen star") until her big reveal in Amazing Spider-Man issue 42. The show even managed to get the exact framing of the original comic panel along with MJ's signature line, and boy did Peter hit the jackpot. I can't wait for next week's episode, it's a game changer for the show and one of my favorite episodes of the series.
I mean they was a 15 year difference between my parents. They actually met the first time when he was 34 and she was 19. Didn't get married till years later, but still. It's not really odd if it's 2 people that are adults. Now Peter dating a 20 year old is off putting. So I get Aunt May being like nope, not happening.
I know people are going to bring up that they didn't have the rights to Kingpin at the time so they used Tombstone. Also, I agree about Kevin Michael Richards sounding like Keith David. Perhaps he is doing an impression and while I have gotten used to the voice I can't help but wonder how cool it would be if Keith David was able to voice him throughout the series 🤔.
I know it won't happen, but i hope this show pulls an X-Men 97 and comes back for another season so we can get Scorpion and Carnage and maybe Hobgoblin and Hydro-Man and other villains😅
The show has too many rights issues unfortunately. Sony owns the show but Marvel owns the rights to make Spider-Man shows. Avengers Earth's Mightiest and Wolverine and the X-Men are the shows from this era that can actually get a revival.
I really only know Tombstone from the Insomniac game but I had a feeling he was the big bad just because of the voice. That bass, that accent, it had to be him.
The thing about Betty and Peter is that if they are both consenting parties it shouldn’t be an issue, especially if the younger of the two is the one pushing for it That comes with the biggest BUT ever of “for a fall formal”, anything above that and it just becomes weird at best or criminal at worst. I don’t think anyone would’ve really cared if Betsy did go with Pete, but since Aunt May was trying her hardest to get Mary Jane with Peter because she’s the best aunt ever, she had to nip that in the bud.
Perhaps going to a dance but anything beyond that is a problem. I don't blame Betty for not going to the dance with a minor, she probably would have done that irrespective of Aunt May 🤔.
@@CLDJ227Maybe, yeah, but if we're talking about a real life scenario, someone being persistent like Peter could potentially get a long way it's happened many times.
Ive seen the introduction of spectacular Spiderman's Tombstone a few times. I always get chills at the ending. "Ive won every battle never came close to winning the War. But Tombstone made 1 big mistake. NOW I KNOW THERE IS A WAR. SO BRING IT ON"
Rhinos have tuff hides, who knew? Clancy Brown here as Captain Stacy. Keith David as Tombstone in a Kingpin role. Hera Syndulla herself Vanessa Marshall as MJ. This show has everything
0:40 Actually Eric 🧐, he was suppose to be Jimmy's younger brother, also named Jimmy (I think the one who died went professionally as James Olsen) and we only saw Jimmy 2.0 in the series finale after they time jumped ahead about 7 years in the final scene based on Clark's line of dialogue and Chloe's son looking 6 or 7. And both Jimmy's were played by Aaron Ashmore. His twin brother Shawn Ashmore appeared earlier in the series as one of the Meteor freaks. Besides, they only did this shocking death of a main character, it's not like anyone else would pull the same stunt, like casting an unknown to play a CIA agent who gets killed in the first few minutes of a movie...
Spectacular Spider-Man came out when I started reading the giant-sized graphic novels. I read through issues 1-100. I had a huge appreciation that this series heavily borrowed elements from the early Spider-Man years. In this episode Peter trying to date Betty is a great nod to how Betty was Peter's first girlfriend. Betty was a few years older than Peter there too, and they dated when he was in high school. A 20-year-old dating a 16-year-old would stand out more for modern audiences, so I liked how the series dealt with it here. I geeked out at the time when I watched first watched this series and they mentioned the Big Man. He was probably the first major crime lord Spider-Man faced, and the Enforcers worked for him (although in the comics the first one was one of Peter's co-workers). I think the show runners being denied the use of Kingpin worked out well. In the long run I think it helped Spectacular Spider-Man stand out from the 90s animated series, since they used Kingpin in similar role. Using the Big Man as the crime lord in control of most of New York's crime in Spider-Man's early years is a great nod to the comics, changing the identity Tombstone was a good way to get a more intimidating and more recognizable Spider-Man villain in the role. Even having so many of Peter's love interests/future girlfriends in the show is pretty true to the comics. Aaron mentioning being unsure if the show was going MJ route or Gwen route is likely very intentional. In high school there was shaping of Betty and Liz Allen rivalry for Petter, while the early college years had Gwen and Mary Jane rivalry. The series having all four women (and eventually other iconic love interests) does make the viewers question which girl will snag Peter. Peter fumbling or missing signs, while his double life getting in the way is so true to form.
The possible age gap was noticed in the ‘60s comics as well. In the letters column, readers asked if Betty was older than Peter. The editorial response was that she’s actually slightly younger, but she dropped out of school to join the workforce and support her mother. Considering Marvel Comics also had age-gap relationships at the time like Reed Richards/Sue Storm, and Hank Pym/Janet Van Dyne, it was more accepted if the man in the relationship is older. It’s possible the age gap with Peter and Betty was only a concern if it meant Peter was the younger one. I’m kind of surprised the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon tackled the Peter/Betty relationship the way they did, considering Peter’s 16 and still a minor. Oddly, while Betty is reluctant and Aunt May wants to shut it down immediately, that point is never specifically brought up as a reason.
Honestly, an age gap of 16 and 20 has only really been a problem in more modern recent times for a very long time. Once again, until even somewhat recently, it wasn't considered that big of a deal.
My aunt and uncles age difference is 5 years, but ny uncle being the younger one was 20 when they met. So that's fair, but knowing that some highschool classmates 'dated' some 22 year olds as freshman and sophomores. Its really weird. Peter gotta calm down
Man, with the plotline in the Insomniac games of kinda wanting to remove the armor and how intimidating he is in those and in this show, I hope Rhino gets proper justice in a Spider-Man movie. Imagine if he had immigrated over with a family and was only doing crimes to keep them afloat, gets fed up with Spidey constantly stopping him so he takes up an offer to be a test subject for some new super armor, and realizes way too late he can never take it off and live a normal life, so he misplaces that rage and sorrow on the citizens of new york and Spider-man. That would certainly make up for that joke of a character in ASM2.
@@BaconNuke I think it's cause Daredevil used him and was owned by Fox at the time. Spiderman was Sony. So it makes sense they couldn't use characters linked to another studios IP. Also to me Kingpin is a Daredevil villain more than a Spiderman one.
I had a Hulk comic where he was on a baseball team and his opponents had some guy called Alex O'Hirn. I believe it was an alias that Rhino used as his real name is Russian OR a DIFFERENT rhino? I think its an alias. anyways hulk kicked his @$$ pretty easily in the end. And as I previously mentioned, O'Hirn is an anagram for rhino.
The thing about Betty and Peter is that if they are both consenting parties it shouldn’t be an issue, especially if the younger of the two is the one pushing for it That comes with the biggest BUT ever of “for a fall formal”, anything above that and it just becomes weird at best or criminal at worst. I don’t think anyone would’ve really cared if Betsy did go with Pete, but since Aunt May was trying her hardest to get Mary Jane with Peter because she’s the best aunt ever, she had to nip that in the bud. IDK. It's pretty normal for the person taking care of a kid to be like umm, he's 16 and you're 20 miss. Maybe don't lead him on cause this will not work out. Watch the Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes show Next week, Classic! Great reaction Wave Crew! Wait, wait! What? WEIGHT!!!! I completely feel for Peter. I was a freshman dating a senior girl in my HS and went to her prom together amazing time, but I never got to go to my actual prom. But anyway my mother pulled the "you're too old for my son" talk with her and there went my short-lived relationship. She was one of the only girls I got to be myself around The boys? Wait so if it's a four-year difference that means when Peter is 20 then she will be like 24/5, so it can work just not right now Man, with the plotline in the Insomniac games of kinda wanting to remove the armor and how intimidating he is in those and in this show, I hope Rhino gets proper justice in a Spider-Man movie. Imagine if he had immigrated over with a family and was only doing crimes to keep them afloat, gets fed up with Spidey constantly stopping him so he takes up an offer to be a test subject for some new super armor, and realizes way too late he can never take it off and live a normal life, so he misplaces that rage and sorrow on the citizens of new york and Spider-man. That would certainly make up for that joke of a character in ASM2. I like how both in this and the first Spider-Man movie, J. Jonah Jameson did what he could to protect Peter even while being held up by the throat. Guys, he is not undead or "runs at low temperature" he is just an American man IDK. It's pretty normal for the person taking care of a kid to be like umm, he's 16 and you're 20 miss. Maybe don't lead him on cause this will not work out. Too bad Keith David couldn’t continue this role Watch the Abyss special edition Classic! Great reaction Wave Crew! They never show the kind of military gear US police have in TV shows 🤣🤣6:34 Uh oh 👀Idk why they put the whole 20-year-old entertaining a 16-year-old subplot in there 😬 No 20-year-old woman is going to seriously entertain a 16-year-old boy. That was a bit creepy to add in. It sets weird expectations for the young audience this cartoon is aimed at. Pretty sure there are plenty of cases of female teachers crossing that line in real life. Whether it's an appropriate subject for a cartoon is another matter. @jp3813 Yes, but that is predation, not "a cool older girl taking me to fall formal." And that's my concern about making a cartoon aimed at kids where a much older person entertains a teenager. @TrueImmortality Seniors dating freshmen isn't unheard of either despite the same age gap. Your concern is understandable, but I doubt that this situation doesn't have any basis in real life. @jp3813 A senior dating a freshman is weird, dude. Very weird. But a freshman and senior are both still in high school, living a similar life experience. A 20 yr old who's in the workforce has very little in common with a 16 yr old. @TrueImmortality Weird things happen in reality where people who have nothing in common end up being married. A senior & freshman deciding to continue their romance even after graduation isn't surprising at all. Especially if it results in pregnancy. I will say this it's weird now but when Peter is 20, she will be 24/5 so it's ok but later on in live-action the next day okay I am busy okay was not me in it okay Reactors Reacting to GWEN STACY FALLING | The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) ReactTV Puss in Boots: The Last Wish MOVIE REACTION!! Blind Wave The Spectacular Spider-Man | Episode 3 "Natural Selection" | FULL EPISODE | Hall Of Heroes Doom Patrol Season 4 Episode 12 - Done Patrol trespasser 16 videos Now playing The Spectacular Spider-Man Blind Wave· Playlist Updated 3 days ago The Spectacular Spider-Man 1x11 REACTION!! “Group Therapy” Disneyland Halloween 2024 Was PERFECT! Last Time Visiting Disneyland Resort & Why Jojo's World Justice League 1x2 "Secret Origins Part 2" Reaction/Review (The Team is Here!) Spidey Studios Steve Harvey threatens Feud producers! "You're gonna pay for that!" Family Feud Top 30 Hardest Broadway Dance Routines EVER MsMojo live-action okay.
From what I understand the main reason they went for Tombstone rather than Fisk is because at this point Marvel didn’t own the TV rights to him because he was mostly considered a Daredevil character
Couple of great unnecessary details in this episode.. -the mother shoves her kid to safety as Spiderman arrives for the save. Nice detail. -Spiderman flees Tombstones office by throwing the chair out the window.. still they took the step of showing Spidey yank the chair back into the building.. the minutia in the show.. the devil in the details that makes the show even more lovable
IDK. It's pretty normal for the person taking care of a kid to be like umm, he's 16 and you're 20 miss. Maybe don't lead him on cause this will not work out.
It’s both although rarely confirmed deaths. Paxton was thrown by a terminator, dragged away in aliens, and seemed pretty confirmed dead in Predator 2. Hendrickson was shot in terminator and we never see him again, a couple robot deaths in the alien franchise, and stabbed by predator in AVP
also there's a weird age gap with Eddie and the girls. he's a college freshman 18/19 and Gwen and mj are 16 and maybe 17 as either sophomore or juniors in high school. Eddie tries to date both of them
Idk why they put the whole 20 yr old entertaining a 16 yr old subplot in there 😬 No 20 yr old woman is going to seriously entertain a 16 yr old boy. That was a bit creepy to add in. It sets weird expectations for the young audience this cartoon is aimed at.
Pretty sure there are plenty of cases of female teachers crossing that line in real life. Whether it's an appropriate subject for a cartoon is another matter.
@jp3813 Yes, but that is predation, not "a cool older girl taking me to fall formal." And that's my concern of making a cartoon aimed at kids where a much older person entertains a teenager.
@@TrueImmortality Seniors dating freshmen aren't unheard of either despite the same age gap. Your concern is understandable, but I doubt that this situation doesn't have any basis in real life.
@jp3813 A senior dating a freshman is weird, dude. Very weird. But a freshman and senior are both still in high school, living a similar life experience. A 20 yr old who's in the workforce has very little in common with a 16 yr old.
@@TrueImmortality Weird things happen in reality where people who have nothing in common end up being married. A senior & freshman deciding to continue their romance even after graduation isn't surprising at all. Especially if it results in pregnancy.
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Just put the 20/16 the other way around... Or make it 19/15... 18/14... the hell is fine that line... Dude, this is like reading the comics all over again...
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mad that Peter was doing better at football tryouts than him because he basically only invited Peter to try to make himself look better, he probably thought that Peter would suck. If he didn't want the competition, he shouldn't have invited him in the first place, could've just told him to support him from the sidelines. Peter's football discussion "natural talent" was especially funny to hear. Looking forward to the next few episodes. Episodes 7 and 8 in particular. Here's a weird thing. A lot of official versions of this show have episode descriptions that don't match the episodes themselves, seemingly those of early concepts of the episodes. For example, the episode description for this episode claims Spider-man teams up with the Human Torch to beat Sandman. A fun thing about this show is how they occasionally introduce a character before they become a supervillain, and sometimes even change their name to throw off fans. Like making Montana from the Enforcers Shocker instead of Herman Schultz. Gotta love this take on Sandman, not out for revenge just in it for "the big score" Among a lot of characters this show has my favorite takes on Rhino and Jameson. It’s so easy to forget Jameson actually cares. Spectacular Spider-Man gets it. the situation really is a win/win/win for him. The Big Man funds his experiments and provides him with test subjects, when Spider-Man inevitably beats them Oscorp gets the contracts to repair any damage and build the necessary containment facilities, and should he discover any replicable methods of giving people powers he can sell them to the military JJJ didn't say the thing about only receiving emails from peter parker "just to protect his source." He might be abrasive, impatient, and have a weird hate boner for Spiderman and masked vigilantes, but he's a good man. He would NEVER endanger any of his employees, especially a minor like Peter. a good ol' brawl of strength vs strength but I also love it when the hero wins through intelligence and observation and this is a solid example. It's a weakness that's logical for Rhino to have but isn't super obvious and thus it makes Spider-Man actually seem intelligent for picking up on it. The thing about Betty and Peter is that if they are both consenting parties it shouldn’t be an issue, especially if the younger of the two is the one pushing for it That comes with the biggest BUT ever of “for a fall formal”, anything above that and it just becomes weird at best or criminal at worst. I don’t think anyone would’ve really cared if Betsy did go with Pete, but since Aunt May was trying her hardest to get Mary Jane with Peter because she’s the best aunt ever, she had to nip that in the bud. The age difference convo always gets me cause my Oldest brother is 11 years younger than his wife and she used to babysit him lmao Idk why they put the whole 20 yr old entertaining a 16 yr old subplot in there 😬 No 20 yr old woman is going to seriously entertain a 16 yr old boy. That was a bit creepy to add in. It sets weird expectations for the young audience this cartoon is aimed at. Among a lot of characters, this show has my favorite takes on Rhino and Jameson. It’s so easy to forget Jameson actually cares. Spectacular Spider-Man gets it. Jameson may have his faults, but good for him to protect Peter. I completely feel for Peter. I was a freshman dating a senior girl in my HS and went to her prom together amazing time, but I never got to go to my actual prom. But anyway my mother pulled the "you're too old for my son" talk with her and there went my short-lived relationship. She was one of the only girls I got to be myself around Classic! Great reaction Wave Crew! Lance Henrikson was also killed by all 3 monsters. The Spectacular Spider-Man 1x2 REACTION!! “Interactions” Blind Wave live-action.
This one incarnation has permanently put respect on the name of every Tombstone in the multiverse. His introduction is so good.
I liked the more thuggish one in Spider-Man 94 too, but this one is a much more calculating schemer.
The best Kingpin depiction
@@WhiteFangofWar I liked the PS4 version that had the one villain who seemed to show true respect for Spidey, especially with how he was characterized in the sequel.
@animeguykurosaki1 Yeah, plus he was interesting in how he was completely willing to go straight if it meant being paid well for it. (The soup kitchen line to be precise.)
Best tombstone depiction imo
The writers wanted "Big Man" to be Kingpin, but they couldn't use the character. So, they used Tombstone, but wrote him like Kingpin
Which, honestly? Is pretty fucking cool
It worked out pretty well.
And funnily enough The Big Man was a villain in the early comics, and he turned out to be Fredrick Foswell from the Bugle - the guy in this show who was stuck in the elevator with Rhino and makes other appearances later in the series
I understand I'm biased, since this series was my first real introduction to Spider-man, but I prefer Tombstone in this role. I also loved Kingpin in Spiderverse, but despite filling the same roles basically, they have very different vibes about them and I just love this portrayal.
I also love the idea that this crime lord walks around in broad daylight looking like the vampire shark supervillain he is, but all his public actions paint him as a good man who helps the needy. Almost helps hide his nature since while his appearance draws attention, he can more easily brush off any unwanted accusations as people being scared of how he looks.
@@WolforNuvaI feel it’s an issue with how kingpin can be seen as super goofy if the writers don’t do him justice. Daredevil the series captures the same feel as this series for me, a villain that feels both intelligent and threatening.
I love that this show setting up all the villains but Aunt May is the true mastermind 😂setting up MJ this whole time
and no goons working for her, she is doing the job herself😂
Aunt May is the Big Man😂
I love how Calvin mentioned looking for anagrams for like Lincoln. Aaron mentioned how O’Hirn sounded like a horn, but no one actually caught O’Hirn is an anagram for Rhino.🦏
“I can’t ever look the other way again.”
That line still gives me chills!
Tombstone is an albino African American, real name Lonnie Lincoln, he was ostracized most of his life, until he got bigger than most other people then he become sadistic and violent, he then used his appearance to frighten people specifically making some people think he’s a vampire, he starts out as a mob enforcer and killer, later in life an accident causes him to get similar powers to Luke Cage with invulnerability and super strength, usually from there he’s depicted as being the head of his own criminal organization when he’s not out fighting street level superheroes
JJJ didn't say the thing about only receiving emails from peter parker "just to protect his source." He might be abrasive, impatient, and have a weird hate boner for Spiderman and masked vigilantes, but he's a good man. He would NEVER endanger any of his employees, especially a minor like peter.
"O'Hirn" is actually an anagram of "Rhino".
I somehow didn't realize Clancy Brown was Rhino all these years even though it seems obvious in hindsight 😅
Probably because he wasn't bald
I was always so focused on him being Captain Stacy that I didn’t consider him as another character in the series
Also Tombstone is an Albino African American Man with super strength and sometimes impervious skin
I thought they said in this episode that he was pale 🤔?
@@CLDJ227 well Tombstone is “usually” albino but there’s a difference between being pale an albino
Calvin is Pale, but he doesn’t have bleach white skin
@@sansventura7199Sheamus ghe wrestler is truly the pasty and pale version of white
This version of Tombstone was intimidating and badass. Always cool headed, smart and tough as hell.
This show was my introduction to Tombstone and this show definitely did him justice
Then again all of Spidey's villains are great in this show
Osborne’s situation really is a win/win/win for him.
The Big Man funds his experiments and provides him with test subjects, when Spider-Man inevitably beats them Oscorp get the contracts to repair any damage and build the necessary containment facilities and should he discover any replicable methods of giving people powers he can sell it to the military
3:29 Spider-Man: And you shoukd pullover...
Bad guy no.2: Right, o-ok...
I like how the bad guy actually listened to Spider-Man 😂.
Doctor Otto Octavius was actually first seen in the very first episode with Adrian Toomes (who would later become the Vulture), just before Norman Osborne showed up.
As for Alex O’Hirn, “O’Hirn” is an anagram for “Rhino”.
Best Mary Jane in my opinion
alonzo "lonnie" lincon was mobster who.used to bully robbie robertson and other kids back in school days
"face it tiger, you just hit the jackpot" line was taken directly from amazing spiderman #42
fun fact: in the comics before her full introduction, her face was all ways obsecured
I completely feel for peter. I was a freshman dating a senior girl in my HS and went to her prom together amazing time, i never got to go to my actual prom. But anyway my mother pulled the "you're too old for my son" talk with her and there went my short lived relationship. She was one of the only girls i got to be myself around
Among a lot of characters this show has my favorite takes on Rhino and Jameson.
It’s so easy to forget Jameson actually cares. Spectacular Spider-Man gets it.
Can’t tell ya how happy I am to rewatch this every week with y’all.
I love me a good ol' brawl of strength vs strength but I also love when the hero wins through intelligence and observation and this is a solid example. It's a weakness that's logical for Rhino to have but isn't super obvious and thus it makes Spider-Man actually seem intelligent for picking up on it.
Clancy Brown’s a national treasure!! It’s incredible that he voiced both Rhino and George Stacy!! On another note, we get to see the Big Man!! (Originally Kingpin was gonna be the villain but they couldn’t use him due to copyright issues)
The age difference convo always gets me cause my Oldest brother is 11 years younger than his wife and she used to babysit him lmao
My dad was 16 or so years older than my mom.
Clancy Brown makes a great Rhino
Woah that's Clancy Brown?! I feel stupid for not realizing that all these years but now it seems so obvious 😅
When I first saw that scene whit Tombstone, it really feels like a very dangerous villain, not whit the crazy powers that the other villains so far, but still whit battle capability, resources and most important, the influence and planning that at the end, gives him this advantage position in the society that even media and the security sees him as a model civilian
Since I’ve watch this series always in Spanish, see it again whit the og voices hits very different but still fresh, Keith David voice for L Thompson is very menacing yet chill too, love the work the man did here
I love how this show is obviously leading up to the sinister six, and man, is it handled well.
We even saw the 3 crooks that would become the Rhino, Sandman, and Shocker long before they got their powers.
Fun Fact: Both Spider-Man and Harry Osborn's VAs played each other's characters in the Spider-Man: Friend or Foe video game. Josh Keaton voiced Harry Osborn/New Goblin in the game, whereas he plays Peter Parker/Spider-Man in Spectacular Spider-Man. And James Arnold Taylor played Peter Parker/Spider Man in Friend or Foe, but played Harry Osborn in Spectacular Spider-Man.
I think both this show and the game were made around the same time as each other.
Now we get to see the face of the Big Man, AKA Tombstone. I've lost count at how many people thought he was supposed to be Kingpin when they watched the first episode, so it always puts a smile on my face when they reach this episode. Though the show WAS originally going to use Kingpin but they couldn't since his rights were sort of tied up with 20th Century Fox thanks to him becoming Daredevil's archenemy since the 80s (despite being introduced as a Spider-Man villain first in the 60s). I'm not complaining though, Tombstone in the comics was more of a henchman so he got an upgrade here.
And what an introduction he had. We just saw Peter take down the Rhino but "a pale guy in a suit" laid him out in 2 seconds. The moment where Tombstone offers him a job with a briefcase full of money with the condition that he look the other way for some small crimes is probably one of my favorite line deliveries from Josh Keaton with "I can't ever look the other way again." You can tell that line has SO much emotion behind it for Peter and is a testament to Keaton's talent as a voice actor.
Speaking of face reveals, the cherry on top moment for this episode, we FINALLY get to see Mary Jane after the constant teasing since episode 4. Greg Weisman and co. really loved the comics when they made this show, and does it show with how they built up MJ's reveal EXACTLY like how she was introduced in the 60s Lee/Ditko run with her being a faceless character (besides one instance where Betty and Liz saw her face and thought she "looks like a screen star") until her big reveal in Amazing Spider-Man issue 42. The show even managed to get the exact framing of the original comic panel along with MJ's signature line, and boy did Peter hit the jackpot. I can't wait for next week's episode, it's a game changer for the show and one of my favorite episodes of the series.
“When my dad was a senior, my mom was in the second grade.”
….. awkward silence……..
“Yeah……”
I mean they was a 15 year difference between my parents. They actually met the first time when he was 34 and she was 19. Didn't get married till years later, but still. It's not really odd if it's 2 people that are adults. Now Peter dating a 20 year old is off putting. So I get Aunt May being like nope, not happening.
@@kingcaesar3693Yeah, as long as both are considered adults it’s fine but if one is very clearly still growing up at the time, yikes
@@collecter343My guy Peter kind of got screwed if he was just a little older just 17. It would have been perfectly fine.
@@collecter343 What if they're both minors?
@@kingcaesar3693 What if it's a senior dating a freshman?
I learned this, so now others must also. Greg Weisman confirmed on his blog that Rhino’s waste is excreted from the bottom of his feet
18:40 Love this scene! Straight out of the comic! Now this, puts a smile on my face 😌
I know people are going to bring up that they didn't have the rights to Kingpin at the time so they used Tombstone.
Also, I agree about Kevin Michael Richards sounding like Keith David. Perhaps he is doing an impression and while I have gotten used to the voice I can't help but wonder how cool it would be if Keith David was able to voice him throughout the series 🤔.
I like how both in this and the first Spider-Man movie, J. Jonah Jameson did what he could to protect Peter even while being held up by the throat.
18:42 Jackpot!
I know it won't happen, but i hope this show pulls an X-Men 97 and comes back for another season so we can get Scorpion and Carnage and maybe Hobgoblin and Hydro-Man and other villains😅
The show has too many rights issues unfortunately. Sony owns the show but Marvel owns the rights to make Spider-Man shows. Avengers Earth's Mightiest and Wolverine and the X-Men are the shows from this era that can actually get a revival.
@@marvelfantasy472 Would love to see those come back too 😎.
Plus the creator of the show is Greg Weissman who is having enough trouble trying to bring Young Justice back
Could if they bought sony lmfao, and they would get spider man completely for the mcu
@@marvelfantasy472man I EMH would get a solid sequel series I'd lose it
I really only know Tombstone from the Insomniac game but I had a feeling he was the big bad just because of the voice. That bass, that accent, it had to be him.
"The world's largest dehydrated turtle"
The thing about Betty and Peter is that if they are both consenting parties it shouldn’t be an issue, especially if the younger of the two is the one pushing for it
That comes with the biggest BUT ever of “for a fall formal”, anything above that and it just becomes weird at best or criminal at worst. I don’t think anyone would’ve really cared if Betsy did go with Pete, but since Aunt May was trying her hardest to get Mary Jane with Peter because she’s the best aunt ever, she had to nip that in the bud.
Perhaps going to a dance but anything beyond that is a problem. I don't blame Betty for not going to the dance with a minor, she probably would have done that irrespective of Aunt May 🤔.
@@CLDJ227Maybe, yeah, but if we're talking about a real life scenario, someone being persistent like Peter could potentially get a long way it's happened many times.
Ive seen the introduction of spectacular Spiderman's Tombstone a few times.
I always get chills at the ending.
"Ive won every battle never came close to winning the War. But Tombstone made 1 big mistake. NOW I KNOW THERE IS A WAR. SO BRING IT ON"
My dad was 16 or so years older than my mom.
Classic! Great reaction Wave Crew!
Guys he is not undead or "runs at low temperature" he is just and albino african american man
Rhinos have tuff hides, who knew? Clancy Brown here as Captain Stacy. Keith David as Tombstone in a Kingpin role. Hera Syndulla herself Vanessa Marshall as MJ. This show has everything
0:40 Actually Eric 🧐, he was suppose to be Jimmy's younger brother, also named Jimmy (I think the one who died went professionally as James Olsen) and we only saw Jimmy 2.0 in the series finale after they time jumped ahead about 7 years in the final scene based on Clark's line of dialogue and Chloe's son looking 6 or 7. And both Jimmy's were played by Aaron Ashmore. His twin brother Shawn Ashmore appeared earlier in the series as one of the Meteor freaks.
Besides, they only did this shocking death of a main character, it's not like anyone else would pull the same stunt, like casting an unknown to play a CIA agent who gets killed in the first few minutes of a movie...
Spectacular Spider-Man came out when I started reading the giant-sized graphic novels. I read through issues 1-100. I had a huge appreciation that this series heavily borrowed elements from the early Spider-Man years. In this episode Peter trying to date Betty is a great nod to how Betty was Peter's first girlfriend. Betty was a few years older than Peter there too, and they dated when he was in high school. A 20-year-old dating a 16-year-old would stand out more for modern audiences, so I liked how the series dealt with it here.
I geeked out at the time when I watched first watched this series and they mentioned the Big Man. He was probably the first major crime lord Spider-Man faced, and the Enforcers worked for him (although in the comics the first one was one of Peter's co-workers). I think the show runners being denied the use of Kingpin worked out well. In the long run I think it helped Spectacular Spider-Man stand out from the 90s animated series, since they used Kingpin in similar role. Using the Big Man as the crime lord in control of most of New York's crime in Spider-Man's early years is a great nod to the comics, changing the identity Tombstone was a good way to get a more intimidating and more recognizable Spider-Man villain in the role.
Even having so many of Peter's love interests/future girlfriends in the show is pretty true to the comics. Aaron mentioning being unsure if the show was going MJ route or Gwen route is likely very intentional. In high school there was shaping of Betty and Liz Allen rivalry for Petter, while the early college years had Gwen and Mary Jane rivalry. The series having all four women (and eventually other iconic love interests) does make the viewers question which girl will snag Peter. Peter fumbling or missing signs, while his double life getting in the way is so true to form.
The possible age gap was noticed in the ‘60s comics as well. In the letters column, readers asked if Betty was older than Peter. The editorial response was that she’s actually slightly younger, but she dropped out of school to join the workforce and support her mother.
Considering Marvel Comics also had age-gap relationships at the time like Reed Richards/Sue Storm, and Hank Pym/Janet Van Dyne, it was more accepted if the man in the relationship is older. It’s possible the age gap with Peter and Betty was only a concern if it meant Peter was the younger one.
I’m kind of surprised the Spectacular Spider-Man cartoon tackled the Peter/Betty relationship the way they did, considering Peter’s 16 and still a minor. Oddly, while Betty is reluctant and Aunt May wants to shut it down immediately, that point is never specifically brought up as a reason.
Honestly, an age gap of 16 and 20 has only really been a problem in more modern recent times for a very long time. Once again, until even somewhat recently, it wasn't considered that big of a deal.
Jameson may have his faults, but good on him to protect Peter.
Clancy brown is classic!
My aunt and uncles age difference is 5 years, but ny uncle being the younger one was 20 when they met. So that's fair, but knowing that some highschool classmates 'dated' some 22 year olds as freshman and sophomores. Its really weird. Peter gotta calm down
It happens so frequently and so commonly even now I find it hard to call it weird with that being the case.
My dad was 16 or so years older than my mom.
I knew as soon as Eric saw the title he'd call out the ship.
I'm 40. My wife is 30. When we got married, we were 37 and 27.
O'hirn. Rohin. Rhoin. Rhino.
Great episode revealing the main criminal mastermind of the season.
Man, with the plotline in the Insomniac games of kinda wanting to remove the armor and how intimidating he is in those and in this show, I hope Rhino gets proper justice in a Spider-Man movie. Imagine if he had immigrated over with a family and was only doing crimes to keep them afloat, gets fed up with Spidey constantly stopping him so he takes up an offer to be a test subject for some new super armor, and realizes way too late he can never take it off and live a normal life, so he misplaces that rage and sorrow on the citizens of new york and Spider-man. That would certainly make up for that joke of a character in ASM2.
i really thought "big man" was gonna turn out to be kingpin so having it be tombstone is crazy
Apparently the writers wanted it to be Kingpin but couldn't get the character for whatever reason so they just wrote Tombstone like Kingpin
It's essentially Kingpin with Tombstone's face
@@BaconNuke I think it's cause Daredevil used him and was owned by Fox at the time. Spiderman was Sony. So it makes sense they couldn't use characters linked to another studios IP. Also to me Kingpin is a Daredevil villain more than a Spiderman one.
The boys
Tombstone is your boy Kevin Michael Richardson ❤❤😂❤
I love this damn show. Really good episode, especailly the part where we meet the big man ..
I had a Hulk comic where he was on a baseball team and his opponents had some guy called Alex O'Hirn. I believe it was an alias that Rhino used as his real name is Russian OR a DIFFERENT rhino? I think its an alias. anyways hulk kicked his @$$ pretty easily in the end. And as I previously mentioned, O'Hirn is an anagram for rhino.
Cool Bill Paxton fact Aaron!🔥
The thing about Betty and Peter is that if they are both consenting parties it shouldn’t be an issue, especially if the younger of the two is the one pushing for it That comes with the biggest BUT ever of “for a fall formal”, anything above that and it just becomes weird at best or criminal at worst. I don’t think anyone would’ve really cared if Betsy did go with Pete, but since Aunt May was trying her hardest to get Mary Jane with Peter because she’s the best aunt ever, she had to nip that in the bud. IDK. It's pretty normal for the person taking care of a kid to be like umm, he's 16 and you're 20 miss. Maybe don't lead him on cause this will not work out.
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What? WEIGHT!!!! I completely feel for Peter. I was a freshman dating a senior girl in my HS and went to her prom together amazing time, but I never got to go to my actual prom. But anyway my mother pulled the "you're too old for my son" talk with her and there went my short-lived relationship. She was one of the only girls I got to be myself around The boys? Wait so if it's a four-year difference that means when Peter is 20 then she will be like 24/5, so it can work just not right now Man, with the plotline in the Insomniac games of kinda wanting to remove the armor and how intimidating he is in those and in this show, I hope Rhino gets proper justice in a Spider-Man movie. Imagine if he had immigrated over with a family and was only doing crimes to keep them afloat, gets fed up with Spidey constantly stopping him so he takes up an offer to be a test subject for some new super armor, and realizes way too late he can never take it off and live a normal life, so he misplaces that rage and sorrow on the citizens of new york and Spider-man. That would certainly make up for that joke of a character in ASM2. I like how both in this and the first Spider-Man movie, J. Jonah Jameson did what he could to protect Peter even while being held up by the throat. Guys, he is not undead or "runs at low temperature" he is just an American man IDK. It's pretty normal for the person taking care of a kid to be like umm, he's 16 and you're 20 miss. Maybe don't lead him on cause this will not work out. Too bad Keith David couldn’t continue this role Watch the Abyss special edition Classic! Great reaction Wave Crew! They never show the kind of military gear US police have in TV shows 🤣🤣6:34 Uh oh 👀Idk why they put the whole 20-year-old entertaining a 16-year-old subplot in there 😬 No 20-year-old woman is going to seriously entertain a 16-year-old boy. That was a bit creepy to add in. It sets weird expectations for the young audience this cartoon is aimed at. Pretty sure there are plenty of cases of female teachers crossing that line in real life. Whether it's an appropriate subject for a cartoon is another matter. @jp3813 Yes, but that is predation, not "a cool older girl taking me to fall formal." And that's my concern about making a cartoon aimed at kids where a much older person entertains a teenager. @TrueImmortality Seniors dating freshmen isn't unheard of either despite the same age gap. Your concern is understandable, but I doubt that this situation doesn't have any basis in real life. @jp3813 A senior dating a freshman is weird, dude. Very weird. But a freshman and senior are both still in high school, living a similar life experience. A 20 yr old who's in the workforce has very little in common with a 16 yr old. @TrueImmortality Weird things happen in reality where people who have nothing in common end up being married. A senior & freshman deciding to continue their romance even after graduation isn't surprising at all. Especially if it results in pregnancy. I will say this it's weird now but when Peter is 20, she will be 24/5 so it's ok but later on in live-action the next day okay I am busy okay was not me in it okay Reactors Reacting to GWEN STACY FALLING | The Amazing Spider-Man 2 (2014) ReactTV Puss in Boots: The Last Wish MOVIE REACTION!! Blind Wave The Spectacular Spider-Man | Episode 3 "Natural Selection" | FULL EPISODE | Hall Of Heroes Doom Patrol Season 4 Episode 12 - Done Patrol trespasser 16 videos Now playing
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From what I understand the main reason they went for Tombstone rather than Fisk is because at this point Marvel didn’t own the TV rights to him because he was mostly considered a Daredevil character
Couple of great unnecessary details in this episode..
-the mother shoves her kid to safety as Spiderman arrives for the save. Nice detail.
-Spiderman flees Tombstones office by throwing the chair out the window.. still they took the step of showing Spidey yank the chair back into the building.. the minutia in the show.. the devil in the details that makes the show even more lovable
Next week, the crew shall go goblin mode
Keith David plays Tombstone 😊
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Lance Henrikson was also killed by all 3 monsters.
16:00 And here we go! 👀💪
Tombstone is actually mundane. He's just a big scary albino guy.
With bullet proof skin and super strength but otherwise yes.
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IDK. It's pretty normal for the person taking care of a kid to be like umm, he's 16 and you're 20 miss. Maybe don't lead him on cause this will not work out.
Wait, wait!
What?
WEIGHT!!!!
6:34 Uh oh 👀
No, I think its Lance Hendrickson who got killed by an alien, a predator and a terminator.
It’s both although rarely confirmed deaths. Paxton was thrown by a terminator, dragged away in aliens, and seemed pretty confirmed dead in Predator 2. Hendrickson was shot in terminator and we never see him again, a couple robot deaths in the alien franchise, and stabbed by predator in AVP
also there's a weird age gap with Eddie and the girls. he's a college freshman 18/19 and Gwen and mj are 16 and maybe 17 as either sophomore or juniors in high school. Eddie tries to date both of them
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They never show the kind of military gear US police has in TV shows 🤣🤣
Wait so if its a four year difference that means when Peter is 20 then she will be like 24/5, so it can work just not right now
The boys?
Too bad Keith David couldn’t continue this role
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Idk why they put the whole 20 yr old entertaining a 16 yr old subplot in there 😬 No 20 yr old woman is going to seriously entertain a 16 yr old boy. That was a bit creepy to add in. It sets weird expectations for the young audience this cartoon is aimed at.
Pretty sure there are plenty of cases of female teachers crossing that line in real life. Whether it's an appropriate subject for a cartoon is another matter.
@jp3813 Yes, but that is predation, not "a cool older girl taking me to fall formal." And that's my concern of making a cartoon aimed at kids where a much older person entertains a teenager.
@@TrueImmortality Seniors dating freshmen aren't unheard of either despite the same age gap. Your concern is understandable, but I doubt that this situation doesn't have any basis in real life.
@jp3813 A senior dating a freshman is weird, dude. Very weird. But a freshman and senior are both still in high school, living a similar life experience. A 20 yr old who's in the workforce has very little in common with a 16 yr old.
@@TrueImmortality Weird things happen in reality where people who have nothing in common end up being married. A senior & freshman deciding to continue their romance even after graduation isn't surprising at all. Especially if it results in pregnancy.