I can't believe he folded KK there with that run out. Can't believe he made that mistake at those stakes. His strategy worked perfectly and yet it make him puss out when what he wanted to happened occurred.
I passionately hate the way, this hand was played. If you are going to check KK on this board, its to induce bluffs. And when you then hit pretty much the best possible runout with no draws getting there, two pair getting counterfeited, and sets getting reduced in combos, you just HAVE to call it down. If you dont have the balls to go with your plan, then just bet the flop and take it down.
He can’t bet into the pre flop aggressor. That would be a bad play. Maybe check raise. Definitely check raise. But he usually has to pay it off on the river.
Checking every street was definitely the wrong move, IMO, because there's so little information gained from that. Check the flop, see what happens, sure. But then put in a big bet on the turn and see if that changes things.
Exactly! This guy was not willing or able to drop another $30K on this hand. He does have some folds here as a percentage, but you cannot let your bankroll dictate your decision. If it does, you are playing too high of stakes. You really should have a $1.5M poker bankroll minimum to be playing at those stakes. 50/100/200 + Ante.
@@MAXIMATTZ Your misconception is that it matters what your bankroll is.. Scared money isn't necessarily about bankroll / net worth, it is much more of a mindset..
Thank you thank you for putting the title as 102k dilemma. This avoids calling it a 102k pot and spoiling the last decision. Polker content best content!
This hand in general is an interesting analysis, but this specific hand barely needs any at all because the entire result is based on Gary playing with scared money. All he was worried about was losing, he spent the entire time bank talking about how much money was involved and counting his own stack. Every player knows how much is in their stack at any time, at least within 10%. He really didn't think about what hands Andy could have except for the briefest comment about having 56. He was doing the nervous laugh people do when they are scared of losing a big stack. Andy must have seen indicators that Gary was playing scared and knew he would only get called by 77 or 99, otherwise the bluff will work every single time. I think this specific hand would be better suited to an exploitative analysis over a GTO one.
Lets see how much you think about how much money you'd lose on a call when it's for about 2/3rds of an Americans average annual salary. I know I could never play at the highest stakes, cause even if I had the money and game to sit down at these games, I'd be like he just raised me my mortgage payments for an entire year, he just pushed all in for the price of a car, I wouldn't be able to play properly at these stakes as I would play scared.
@@24magiccarrot I'm not sure what you're trying to say in that first sentence, but whatever it is, I think you answered it yourself. Nobody should ever play in these games if they can't afford it and will play scared. It's all relative to how big your bankroll is. The average American salary has nothing to do with it. Losing a couple of buy-ins in a game like this shouldn't have any long term impact on these guys, and if it does there is no way they should be playing.
@@evzstreaming631 I agree, but almost every good poker player at some point in their life has played in a game in which the stakes were higher than they were used to and made bad decisions because they were scared. Doug talks about how Willhasa talks players into playing at higher and higher stakes until he can bluff his opponent with impunity because they are too scared to call for an amount that would hurt them. It's easy to say if you are scared to play at the stakes you shouldn't be playing, but for most normal people having to make a call for £30,000 is intimidating, even for people who have the bankroll to play those stakes many the first time they are calling or making bets for $1000s it does get to them.
@@hihiihihihi8408 , Uncle Abe is NO Tom Dwan. Tom picks his spots. This would not be one of those spots. He also plays High Stakes, not low stakes which is a looser game. Listen to Doug Polk again, he called this a garbage hand as well. Have a great day dude.
@@jimmybroughton2956 This is a high stakes game the big blind is $100 there aren't too many games bigger than this outside of private game. You still get loose play at high stakes.
The only possible reason for him folding is that he didn't check the flop for balance or to induce but rather that he thought "ugh, low board, someone can have a set". That's the perfect runout, I can't really see a reason for folding any made hand on that river, folding flushdraws is plenty. You only need to find 4-5 combos of river bluffs to break even. And that's from a range of 40+ hand combos that are very reasonable to bet on the flop and turn. Pretty much every player who can spell "bluff" will be overbluffing that spot.
Theoretically, this simply isn't a spot where there should be very many bluffs available. The river is a brick to so many of the thin value and semi-bluff type hands in hero's range when he fires the large turn bet. A lot of those hands will have to check back this river or we're going to get caught over-bluffing. As a result, when facing this shove we should also be considering that we will have to fold some of the made hands in our range or we're going to stack off too often against a very strong value range, even if it is a very polarizing spot. I don't think we are ever folding QQ+ with no diamond, but T9s, JJ, or QQ with a diamond are going to sweat. Also, I think we should recognize the creativity and balls it takes to get to the river with Andy's exact hand in this spot. To me, it demonstrates he has a strong awareness and understanding of his perceived table image and how different types of players at these stakes will react in this spot. That's the beauty of live poker for me. It's a format where a lot of useful information is available that can be overlooked by more theory. You see so many less hands and have so much less hand data on your opponents that other factors play a larger role, including a strong understanding of the psychological tendencies of players, an ability to quickly identify patterns and leaks in our opponent's play while adjusting to plug our own, and the ability to improvise exploitative lines to apply the pressure to our opponents and take them out of their comfort zone. It's a cruel game where good play is often punished and bad play rewarded that really takes strong mental fortitude to overcome, especially when we don't have software and a computer screen to give us that little extra dose of confidence and assurance.
Doug, I have learned a ridiculous amount from you over the last 2 years, and I respect you tremendously, but I think you really missed the mark here with your analysis. I think black KK is a CRYSTAL clear call 100% of the time. Besides hands containing a 9 in them, which it’s hard to know how many Gary has, this is your absolute best bluff catcher. No diamond, and I even like it better than AA in a lot of ways since some of Andy’s bluffs might be A3 and A5s. Also, from a slightly exploitative standpoint...Andy really only has like 7-9 combos here. 99, 77, and I’ll give him credit for the occasional A2s hand or maybe a weirdly played AA. That’s it. And with a ~pot sized bet, anything more than 4 bluff combos is gonna be over bluffing, which frankly, is very easy to do. If I’m in Gary’s shoes, I think Andy is WAY more likely to be over bluffing than underbluffing, and I’m snapping with black KK here for sure
They're talking about him showing up with it in these spots all the time, but like you said, there is just so little value. If you fold KK here when you put it in your check back range, then what the fuck are you calling three streets with? Andy can just print money by following through with his cbets. Feels like game theory wise you just can't ever fold KK. Even exploitatively you'd have to be playing against someone who basically never bluffs three streets.
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I just don't get it. You check-call with KK precisely in order to induce people to bluff. I don't know how Andy normally plays but I'm guessing he didn't get to this table by being passive. If you aren't going to call here with KK, then you should have just come out firing on the flop. There's just no way that a guy in Andy's spot is going to be checking behind with air on the river after betting on the flop and turn. You gotta call and if you're beat, you're beat.
people just don't randomly decide to 3 barrel no matter what comes on the turn and river. those that do are losing players. also, top level analysis 'you gotta call and if you're beat you're beat'. beats doug's analysis definitely
@@vlada_janjanin I've watched Andy a few times & someone at this table was going to 3 barrel with air its Andy... Not an easy call here but he should have called
Which kind of defeats the point of folding in that spot. If the commentator is giving away knowledge like Andy is a big time bluffer who isn't afraid of 3 barrelling then SURELY you know it's a call.
You even have to fold AA preflop if it's for too much money.... ...I've been told before. But I never fold them cause I love the heart break when getting cracked.
Doug, so glad you're still making poker hand videos, thanks for clearing that up! I agree with comments below, if you're going to check call to induce the bluff, you must call that river jam. I think Gary played the hand poorly.
"I wouldn't mind a check in this spot, but a min raise would work too, also folding is a great option as well, don't forget to balance in some all-ins here, you can also elect to check raise and check fold i could argue works also." -doug polk
Jeff no disrespect at all cause I'm a fan and subscriber but you really should colab with me it'd be good for your channel to colab with bigger youtubers than yourself.
Yo, Doug I really appreciate all of your videos and analysis. It’s really really helped my online game as of late. I’ve been able to move up limits and mistakes I used to make all the time are very limited now. Just wanna say that man. Keep doing what you do. Much respect
I call a reraise with KK dependent on the opponent stack, big stack is a fold. Opponent can have as AK AA AQo AQ s medium to small stack call. cash and tourney
So glad to hear Polker hands is still in business.👍 I've learned a lot from watching your breakdowns. In this hand I don't think I'm ever folding black Kings here. As played, Andy has all the PP's 10's thru QQ's + all Ax of diamonds + some AK, AQ and AJ. That's a whole lot of combos we beat. I'm just never folding black KK's here. I was watching this hand live and could not believe Gary folded. Then again, Gary's very public about his cannabis consumption... maybe he was just really high.🤪😞😑
i think sometimes a conventional player would slow down with jacks and 10s, but its a good point that he might shove queens here, which kind of makes calling with kings a lot easier.
@@yeahh5829, you're probably right. But, main point I was trying to make is when Gary checks three times and Andy goes bet, bet, shove I believe he has AT LEAST as many Bluffs as value hands....I'm calling 100%. If he flopped a set or occassionally has AA... pay the man his money.
When watching these players squirm in tough spots, I like to pretend Doug's rambling sophisticated analysis is the voice inside their heads. Try it sometime. It can be hilarious. This is a good one. Pretend Doug is the voice inside Gary's head while you watch Gary tank on the river.
I'm glad you're still making videos Doug! Since you're retired from poker now, I was thinking now might be a good time to rebrand the show? Perhaps, you could change the name to Polker Hands, since it kinda sounds like poker, and given that it makes sense seeing that your name is Polk.
This is a call on the river, you are good here 75% of the time. 8T missed 68Missed Diamonds missed A3 missed 35(picked up equity on the turn for addionatal bet) missed we sucked out on 97 for higher 2 pair We're good here 75% of the time, bad fold.
SilverShrimp TX exactly this... how do you fold Kings here... if they flopped a set you’re just gonna lose but the way the hand went you have to call that river
Doug, thank you for all your time spent making these videos. I wanted to know if you could analyze a hand of the ''ETP Barcelona 2018 - Day 5 Highlights''. Marques vs Tang, the hand starts about 5:57. Interesting hand if you take a deep analyze and I want to have an opinion of a real pro like you.
It was easily to see on flop (check/call) that he was going to drink a bluff on river. Before watching this, I thought I was terrible in poker. . This was a great lesson how to put yourself in inferior position beyond the point of no return, with a monster hand. Thanks for posting this, Polk. Big time.
If the stakes are a bit high for your bankrool, its a pretty bad idea to sit with a 550 BB stack at the table. If Gary had started the hand with 25k rather than 55k, he could just get it all in on the turn and not even worry about it.
Doug missed something here. Black KK is actually the best overpair calling hand (slightly better than black/non-diamond AA) Of all overpairs AA is the most likely one to c/c flop and c/c down rather than cbet because it needs the least protection. Andy is aware of this and will therefore use Ax hands as a significant portion of his bluffing range (one combo of which we see in this hand obviously) because he then blocks an important part of Gary's calling range when Gary takes this line. Due to this Gary should prefer to call river with KK over AA because it does not block Ax bluffs. Black kings don't really block any bluffs.
That's one of the reasons I watch your videos it's because how you analyze things in between streets and you're hilarious LOL But, if you don't mind me asking why are you not going to be playing anymore?
Best bluff on the river would be T8cc blocking T9cc, 98cc and 87cc which are the best call down hands in Gary’s range. After T8cc also bluff T8ss and JTcc which also block 9x hands. that way we have 3 bluffs and 7 valuebets and are well balanced
You do you Doug. Couldn’t blame you not wanting to play any more poker. Can only imagine how stressful lmao keep the content pumping whatever the kind!
I think the way to think about these situations is not, "how do I win this hand", but rather, "how do I maximize my equity across all hands in this range?"
Horrendous fold IMO. Andy could have 86suited, 810suited on flop even 56suited as he turned double guted. He can even have 79suited, turning his hand into a bluff as he is counterfeit on River. In this spot when Gary gets to the River the 2h is the most perfect card to call down with ESPECIALLY since he has two black Kings(doesn’t block turn diamond draw) as Andy could even have a hand like A7dd & A9dd and even A10dd through AKdd. Plus how often does Andy polarize his full houses? I think he would go for value 1/3-1/2 size pot on River a lot of the time.
Ffs you just wasted time typing that bs when polk has already just spent 15 mins telling us the exact same as you have u plank!! Stop making out your an expert u douche
I'll give you a good one Doug Polk... On BB with 17,000 chips in a tournament with blinds at 600-1200. Look down at KK & it's a dream. Action folds to mid position & player raises to 3500. SB micro stack all-in, back to me on BB. I look up at the guy in mid position & tell him he has AA & after several seconds of banter & harassment towards me, I fold KK face up. He shows AA & player all-in has 99. He spikes 9 & wins the pot. No K on the board. This is called Hellmuth white magic I believe. It was a pure instinct play.
Brilliant A1 Content & you’re teaching us Doug for free on your poker Hands. People who moan that you talk too long per hand are the losing players who have not reached the great high stakes poker like Doug has. If people moan about Dougs channel then don’t keep watching it. Me & many others learn for free how to play or not to play a poker hand. Keep up the good work Doug 👍🏻
Every once in a while Doug makes a comical video like this one by accident. As Doug is droning on and on about various configurations of intersecting ranges on this river, we get to watch Gary squirm while he tanks as if Doug's analysis are the exact words going thru Gary's head. Anybody else pick up on that poker comedy or is it just me?
i am one of those guys who said you talk too much in previous videos.. i liked this one though. thumbs up. To be clear, NOT because of what you said, but because i was still able to watch the hand and you weren't talking during the hand.. i can't stand that... there is so much going on, i like to hear, see, and "smell" the hand... get a feel for it myself. I couldn't have folded here on the river with KK, he set it up to be played like that, he could have bet the flop and controlled the pot size, but he didn't. he put himself in this position, and didn't have the foresight to plan for what he was going to do when he got there.
guys, Ii would like to take this moment to say that Ii really appreciate that a sometime high-stakes player actually takes time out and makes these videos..maybe his time as that player is up..but thats OK..ill take this I guess..thanks Doug
Can you go into why you would mostly bet the flop here with Kings. What other hands would you bet flop with? And if you do check, what other hands would you check it with. What are the pros and cons of each line.
I'm personally a fan of checking most of my range out of position as the aggressor on a dry board like 972 rain, the main reasons being overpairs are usually only good for two streets of value anyways and I don't want to have to cbet all my AK and AQ on boards that favor my opponents. If someone has a counter argument I'd love to hear it.
Doug, I have only one piece of advice for you when it comes to your poker “semi retirement” ... no matter what happens, make sure that you always, always ..... keep a lookout for water bottles that are placed near your keyboard
Good review but you forgot to mention what they personally know about each other - remember, they’ve played together a lot. Andy may know something about Gary that we don’t ie. He folds too much
Based on how Feldman thought Andy was incapable of bluffing 3 streets in big pots, that is maybe a good fold in the long run. I ship it there for sure though unfortunately. Of course in a 100k pot I would probably piss myself in terror before I shipped it.
a very disciplined fold there, dont know if i couldve made it myself. Talking about the J4 of course
Adam Hare disciplined or horrible ? Lol
Junior Ferg you missed the joke bud
Reading comprehension Lol
Cowtymsmiesznego +1 for reading comprehension, people are fucking idiots.
I can't believe he folded KK there with that run out. Can't believe he made that mistake at those stakes. His strategy worked perfectly and yet it make him puss out when what he wanted to happened occurred.
I passionately hate the way, this hand was played. If you are going to check KK on this board, its to induce bluffs. And when you then hit pretty much the best possible runout with no draws getting there, two pair getting counterfeited, and sets getting reduced in combos, you just HAVE to call it down. If you dont have the balls to go with your plan, then just bet the flop and take it down.
He can’t bet into the pre flop aggressor. That would be a bad play. Maybe check raise. Definitely check raise. But he usually has to pay it off on the river.
Checking every street was definitely the wrong move, IMO, because there's so little information gained from that. Check the flop, see what happens, sure. But then put in a big bet on the turn and see if that changes things.
@@FocusedAndMotivated100 But KK was the last preflop aggressor, he 3-bet from the straddle.
Not Enough Golds I didn’t realize that
Yup. 100% agree. When you get the action you are looking for on every street, you can't fold on the river.
I haven't seen a bluff like that since my girl told me she was still on the pill.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
she going for the full house bruh
That would be funny if it weren’t true for me....
Pug Darclay best reply I’ve ever seen, stone cold nuts
Sounds more like a value play to me
For me this is just a clear cut case of ‘scared money’.
Thank you for listening to my Polker analysis.
DP
Exactly! This guy was not willing or able to drop another $30K on this hand. He does have some folds here as a percentage, but you cannot let your bankroll dictate your decision. If it does, you are playing too high of stakes. You really should have a $1.5M poker bankroll minimum to be playing at those stakes. 50/100/200 + Ante.
excellent analysis what's your estimate on Andy & Garrett's bankroll 8-10 mill
@@MAXIMATTZ Your misconception is that it matters what your bankroll is..
Scared money isn't necessarily about bankroll / net worth, it is much more of a mindset..
why is this micro stakes player commenting on a $100k pot?
whocareslol222222 The stakes are almost irrelevant unless you’re playing above your means. The decision process is the same.
@@datsumcrzysht he is joking..referencing on the challenge Doug did.
@@datsumcrzysht people play above their means all the time especially at high limits
Lol, my mistake.
refer to savedbygrace for all future questions
What's up guys, retired Polk here
MulliganGambler ahhhh and he’s back.
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lol'd
Thank you thank you for putting the title as 102k dilemma. This avoids calling it a 102k pot and spoiling the last decision. Polker content best content!
This hand in general is an interesting analysis, but this specific hand barely needs any at all because the entire result is based on Gary playing with scared money. All he was worried about was losing, he spent the entire time bank talking about how much money was involved and counting his own stack. Every player knows how much is in their stack at any time, at least within 10%. He really didn't think about what hands Andy could have except for the briefest comment about having 56. He was doing the nervous laugh people do when they are scared of losing a big stack. Andy must have seen indicators that Gary was playing scared and knew he would only get called by 77 or 99, otherwise the bluff will work every single time. I think this specific hand would be better suited to an exploitative analysis over a GTO one.
Lets see how much you think about how much money you'd lose on a call when it's for about 2/3rds of an Americans average annual salary.
I know I could never play at the highest stakes, cause even if I had the money and game to sit down at these games, I'd be like he just raised me my mortgage payments for an entire year, he just pushed all in for the price of a car, I wouldn't be able to play properly at these stakes as I would play scared.
@@24magiccarrot I'm not sure what you're trying to say in that first sentence, but whatever it is, I think you answered it yourself. Nobody should ever play in these games if they can't afford it and will play scared. It's all relative to how big your bankroll is. The average American salary has nothing to do with it. Losing a couple of buy-ins in a game like this shouldn't have any long term impact on these guys, and if it does there is no way they should be playing.
24magiccarrot if the stakes are going to dictate how you play you shouldn’t be playing
@@evzstreaming631 I agree, but almost every good poker player at some point in their life has played in a game in which the stakes were higher than they were used to and made bad decisions because they were scared.
Doug talks about how Willhasa talks players into playing at higher and higher stakes until he can bluff his opponent with impunity because they are too scared to call for an amount that would hurt them.
It's easy to say if you are scared to play at the stakes you shouldn't be playing, but for most normal people having to make a call for £30,000 is intimidating, even for people who have the bankroll to play those stakes many the first time they are calling or making bets for $1000s it does get to them.
@@24magiccarrot And again, if it gets to them/you, they/you shouldn't be playing... It's not that hard of a concept.
bad fold by J4, it could have come T, 8
It came, turn 4, and he seems to wonder, am I actually ahead right now?
J4 suited or not is trash. Should have folded preflop. Abe likes to play alot of trash. You can make money off donkeys like abe.
@@jimmybroughton2956 jim this is cash game and tom dwan plays trash card but i bet u dont wanna be same table with him
@@hihiihihihi8408 , Uncle Abe is NO Tom Dwan. Tom picks his spots. This would not be one of those spots. He also plays High Stakes, not low stakes which is a looser game. Listen to Doug Polk again, he called this a garbage hand as well. Have a great day dude.
@@jimmybroughton2956 This is a high stakes game the big blind is $100 there aren't too many games bigger than this outside of private game. You still get loose play at high stakes.
I love Abe hes fkn awesome did u see the obvious level of tilt on his face when the 4 peeled on the turn.. hes thinking fk I knew it..
lol I had to watch Daniel negranu ad to watch doug Polk video. Wtf is this?
Same LOL
Didnt you know, if the rake is high its actullay better
Haha, oh the irony!
I saw that commercial and it's super lame.
Cant be loosey goosey
Look at it this way. Someone paid Doug Polk money, to put a video of Daniel Negreanu, on a channel, where Doug Polk trolls Daniel Negreanu regularly.
That more rake is better man child came up in an ad before this. ...tilted.
Lmao I got him too for a master class
I wonder if he tells people to look for the highest raked games in his masterclass.
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I click on a Doug Polk Poker video and an ad for DNegs poker training plays, classic! #morerakeisbetter
7:35 At this point jack four suited makes a "very disciplined lay down on the nine seven deuce flop." hahahha
hahahahahaha
The only possible reason for him folding is that he didn't check the flop for balance or to induce but rather that he thought "ugh, low board, someone can have a set".
That's the perfect runout, I can't really see a reason for folding any made hand on that river, folding flushdraws is plenty. You only need to find 4-5 combos of river bluffs to break even. And that's from a range of 40+ hand combos that are very reasonable to bet on the flop and turn. Pretty much every player who can spell "bluff" will be overbluffing that spot.
Theoretically, this simply isn't a spot where there should be very many bluffs available. The river is a brick to so many of the thin value and semi-bluff type hands in hero's range when he fires the large turn bet. A lot of those hands will have to check back this river or we're going to get caught over-bluffing.
As a result, when facing this shove we should also be considering that we will have to fold some of the made hands in our range or we're going to stack off too often against a very strong value range, even if it is a very polarizing spot. I don't think we are ever folding QQ+ with no diamond, but T9s, JJ, or QQ with a diamond are going to sweat.
Also, I think we should recognize the creativity and balls it takes to get to the river with Andy's exact hand in this spot. To me, it demonstrates he has a strong awareness and understanding of his perceived table image and how different types of players at these stakes will react in this spot.
That's the beauty of live poker for me. It's a format where a lot of useful information is available that can be overlooked by more theory. You see so many less hands and have so much less hand data on your opponents that other factors play a larger role, including a strong understanding of the psychological tendencies of players, an ability to quickly identify patterns and leaks in our opponent's play while adjusting to plug our own, and the ability to improvise exploitative lines to apply the pressure to our opponents and take them out of their comfort zone.
It's a cruel game where good play is often punished and bad play rewarded that really takes strong mental fortitude to overcome, especially when we don't have software and a computer screen to give us that little extra dose of confidence and assurance.
I think Gary should have just anticipated the uncallable river bluff shove and simply folded KK pre-flop.
Doug, I have learned a ridiculous amount from you over the last 2 years, and I respect you tremendously, but I think you really missed the mark here with your analysis. I think black KK is a CRYSTAL clear call 100% of the time. Besides hands containing a 9 in them, which it’s hard to know how many Gary has, this is your absolute best bluff catcher. No diamond, and I even like it better than AA in a lot of ways since some of Andy’s bluffs might be A3 and A5s.
Also, from a slightly exploitative standpoint...Andy really only has like 7-9 combos here. 99, 77, and I’ll give him credit for the occasional A2s hand or maybe a weirdly played AA. That’s it. And with a ~pot sized bet, anything more than 4 bluff combos is gonna be over bluffing, which frankly, is very easy to do. If I’m in Gary’s shoes, I think Andy is WAY more likely to be over bluffing than underbluffing, and I’m snapping with black KK here for sure
Lol you brought exactly the same points as I did... love it
They're talking about him showing up with it in these spots all the time, but like you said, there is just so little value.
If you fold KK here when you put it in your check back range, then what the fuck are you calling three streets with? Andy can just print money by following through with his cbets.
Feels like game theory wise you just can't ever fold KK. Even exploitatively you'd have to be playing against someone who basically never bluffs three streets.
doug sad it he should call with some overpairs esp. without a diamond.
Zack Ryan was asking
This is “blockers” logic.
Hey Doug, this is Monacle. Played with you a bit during the BR challenge. We had some good times. I'm working on building a brand and building a stream following. I'm really happy you are still making poker related content. Will be on the lookout for more. Thanks
Guy: "I really can't see what he's working with here" , said mike postle never
I just don't get it. You check-call with KK precisely in order to induce people to bluff. I don't know how Andy normally plays but I'm guessing he didn't get to this table by being passive. If you aren't going to call here with KK, then you should have just come out firing on the flop. There's just no way that a guy in Andy's spot is going to be checking behind with air on the river after betting on the flop and turn. You gotta call and if you're beat, you're beat.
people just don't randomly decide to 3 barrel no matter what comes on the turn and river. those that do are losing players. also, top level analysis 'you gotta call and if you're beat you're beat'. beats doug's analysis definitely
@@vlada_janjanin I've watched Andy a few times & someone at this table was going to 3 barrel with air its Andy... Not an easy call here but he should have called
Which kind of defeats the point of folding in that spot. If the commentator is giving away knowledge like Andy is a big time bluffer who isn't afraid of 3 barrelling then SURELY you know it's a call.
Glad you're still making these videos for us to enjoy. Oh... and thanks for leaving in that "oops" moment.
You even have to fold AA preflop if it's for too much money....
...I've been told before. But I never fold them cause I love the heart break when getting cracked.
yeah, seems like you have to fold some of your aces preflop, some call and some reise
If you have to fold AA preflop because it’s for too much money, you’re in the wrong game...
r/woosh
Exactly.
well to maintain balance you need to fold AA at least 10% of the time.
Doug, so glad you're still making poker hand videos, thanks for clearing that up! I agree with comments below, if you're going to check call to induce the bluff, you must call that river jam. I think Gary played the hand poorly.
"I wouldn't mind a check in this spot, but a min raise would work too, also folding is a great option as well, don't forget to balance in some all-ins here, you can also elect to check raise and check fold i could argue works also."
-doug polk
All options are good / Doug Polk
Welcome back Polker hands!
Jeff no disrespect at all cause I'm a fan and subscriber but you really should colab with me it'd be good for your channel to colab with bigger youtubers than yourself.
Im much smaller now but Im COMING......!!!!
Ok contact me with details. ICuRaRook on twitter.
OH FUCK YEAH lol wasnt sure THAT WOULD WORK! I will come up with some ideas to pitch to you. Sweet! talk in a bit
Wow history in the making...
For some weird reason I find the "what's up guys" intro so soothing and comfortable.
Keep up the great work 👍
yeah man, i was worried you was going to stop with these video's. thx man, really appreciated !!
Yo, Doug I really appreciate all of your videos and analysis. It’s really really helped my online game as of late. I’ve been able to move up limits and mistakes I used to make all the time are very limited now. Just wanna say that man. Keep doing what you do. Much respect
WHAT'S UP DOUG,
Daniel Negreanu MasterClass 2 minute ad here -- not joking, that's what just played for this video for me! X-D
Thank you for keeping the content coming. We enjoy it!
J-4 Hearts is the Ultimate Degen Call on the fucking Button lmao
At this point the guu with J4 suited makes a very disciplined lay down 😂
Making these videos ... makes my life better, Thank you Doug ....(and they are so fun to watch)
Just like a pro footballer. Quits then turns to commentating.
I call a reraise with KK dependent on the opponent stack, big stack is a fold.
Opponent can have as AK AA AQo AQ s medium to small stack call. cash and tourney
So glad to hear Polker hands is still in business.👍 I've learned a lot from watching your breakdowns. In this hand I don't think I'm ever folding black Kings here. As played, Andy has all the PP's 10's thru QQ's + all Ax of diamonds + some AK, AQ and AJ. That's a whole lot of combos we beat. I'm just never folding black KK's here. I was watching this hand live and could not believe Gary folded. Then again, Gary's very public about his cannabis consumption... maybe he was just really high.🤪😞😑
i think sometimes a conventional player would slow down with jacks and 10s, but its a good point that he might shove queens here, which kind of makes calling with kings a lot easier.
Problem is, he very rarely cold calls the 3bet pre with queens, especially when a third player behind is involved, so queens isn't really in his range
@@yeahh5829, you're probably right. But, main point I was trying to make is when Gary checks three times and Andy goes bet, bet, shove I believe he has AT LEAST as many Bluffs as value hands....I'm calling 100%. If he flopped a set or occassionally has AA... pay the man his money.
Was that Vodka in you cup? Did you give up poker to start drinkin?
Doug, the first step is the hardest. Just admit you have a problem.
The only drink problem anyone can have is not having enough drink. Given Doug is filthy rich I doubt he has that problem.
The Daniel Negranu ad running before Polk's video is something else. LOL
Funny, coincidentally I've watched two poker videos today both have Gary folding KK.
Ad for Daniel’s “Masterclass” course on Doug’s video . Oh the irony
When watching these players squirm in tough spots, I like to pretend Doug's rambling sophisticated analysis is the voice inside their heads. Try it sometime. It can be hilarious. This is a good one. Pretend Doug is the voice inside Gary's head while you watch Gary tank on the river.
I'm glad you're still making videos Doug! Since you're retired from poker now, I was thinking now might be a good time to rebrand the show? Perhaps, you could change the name to Polker Hands, since it kinda sounds like poker, and given that it makes sense seeing that your name is Polk.
This is a call on the river, you are good here 75% of the time.
8T missed
68Missed
Diamonds missed
A3 missed
35(picked up equity on the turn for addionatal bet) missed
we sucked out on 97 for higher 2 pair
We're good here 75% of the time, bad fold.
SilverShrimp TX exactly this... how do you fold Kings here... if they flopped a set you’re just gonna lose but the way the hand went you have to call that river
Doug, thank you for all your time spent making these videos. I wanted to know if you could analyze a hand of the ''ETP Barcelona 2018 - Day 5 Highlights''. Marques vs Tang, the hand starts about 5:57. Interesting hand if you take a deep analyze and I want to have an opinion of a real pro like you.
Doug we really miss your videos, no matter the topic, they're always funny. My family and I support you man!!
It was easily to see on flop (check/call) that he was going to drink a bluff on river. Before watching this, I thought I was terrible in poker.
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This was a great lesson how to put yourself in inferior position beyond the point of no return, with a monster hand. Thanks for posting this, Polk. Big time.
Glad that you still makes this kind of movies. Like your comments !
I love how you keep the bottle spill in there 😂😂
Thank god that you are going to keep videos. Keep it up Doug!!!
Yeah the real problem here is bankroll.
agree, if you're ballin you call that
The guy clearly knows he needs to make this call, he just can’t afford the odd change villain tables a house on him.
If the stakes are a bit high for your bankrool, its a pretty bad idea to sit with a 550 BB stack at the table. If Gary had started the hand with 25k rather than 55k, he could just get it all in on the turn and not even worry about it.
You’re retired and not allowed to talk about poker anymore.
I’m kidding this upload is a welcomed surprise.
Doug missed something here. Black KK is actually the best overpair calling hand (slightly better than black/non-diamond AA)
Of all overpairs AA is the most likely one to c/c flop and c/c down rather than cbet because it needs the least protection. Andy is aware of this and will therefore use Ax hands as a significant portion of his bluffing range (one combo of which we see in this hand obviously) because he then blocks an important part of Gary's calling range when Gary takes this line.
Due to this Gary should prefer to call river with KK over AA because it does not block Ax bluffs. Black kings don't really block any bluffs.
Good to see you back on the Channel! : D
That's one of the reasons I watch your videos it's because how you analyze things in between streets and you're hilarious LOL
But, if you don't mind me asking why are you not going to be playing anymore?
Isn't KK a slightly better call than AA since you don't block A5s?
Glad to hear your still going to make the poker videos.
Best bluff on the river would be T8cc blocking T9cc, 98cc and 87cc which are the best call down hands in Gary’s range. After T8cc also bluff T8ss and JTcc which also block 9x hands. that way we have 3 bluffs and 7 valuebets and are well balanced
You do you Doug. Couldn’t blame you not wanting to play any more poker. Can only imagine how stressful lmao keep the content pumping whatever the kind!
I laughed so hard at the water spill. Great video as always Doug!
Classic
love this stuff, thank you doug, hope this will be more than once a month thing for you...love your poker hand videos...
The fact that you don't edit your farts out is why I still watch this channel. Cheers mate!
I think the way to think about these situations is not, "how do I win this hand", but rather, "how do I maximize my equity across all hands in this range?"
Good stuff Doug keep it up and do all the talking you like (more education for us), don’t worry about the neigh sayers, appreciate the content!
Hilariously ironic ad preceding Doug's video is for Negreanus Masterclass lol
Its actually amazing that RUclips plays ads for Negreanu's master class on this video...
Fucked up
What's up Polk, Guys Doug here!
Keep playing dude.. what the heck man.. im gonna miss you streaming! you give me hope in my game. At least scoop or wcoop!?!?
jeez Doug, the clip from Joey's "music video" had me f'in rolling dude..
Horrendous fold IMO.
Andy could have 86suited, 810suited on flop even 56suited as he turned double guted. He can even have 79suited, turning his hand into a bluff as he is counterfeit on River.
In this spot when Gary gets to the River the 2h is the most perfect card to call down with ESPECIALLY since he has two black Kings(doesn’t block turn diamond draw) as Andy could even have a hand like A7dd & A9dd and even A10dd through AKdd.
Plus how often does Andy polarize his full houses? I think he would go for value 1/3-1/2 size pot on River a lot of the time.
Ffs you just wasted time typing that bs when polk has already just spent 15 mins telling us the exact same as you have u plank!! Stop making out your an expert u douche
Betting 1/3 on this river given this action is still very polarizing
I'll give you a good one Doug Polk... On BB with 17,000 chips in a tournament with blinds at 600-1200. Look down at KK & it's a dream. Action folds to mid position & player raises to 3500. SB micro stack all-in, back to me on BB. I look up at the guy in mid position & tell him he has AA & after several seconds of banter & harassment towards me, I fold KK face up. He shows AA & player all-in has 99. He spikes 9 & wins the pot. No K on the board. This is called Hellmuth white magic I believe. It was a pure instinct play.
Good to have you back, Doug.
Brilliant A1 Content & you’re teaching us Doug for free on your poker Hands. People who moan that you talk too long per hand are the losing players who have not reached the great high stakes poker like Doug has. If people moan about Dougs channel then don’t keep watching it. Me & many others learn for free how to play or not to play a poker hand. Keep up the good work Doug 👍🏻
Why are you quitting poker, Doug? You've been one of the best! Not to mention being actually the best at HU.
Did anyone hear Doug isn't playing poker anymore?!
This auto loaded after Ingram's and I assumed it was old, glad I watched it, great hand and thanks for the analysis!
Every once in a while Doug makes a comical video like this one by accident. As Doug is droning on and on about various configurations of intersecting ranges on this river, we get to watch Gary squirm while he tanks as if Doug's analysis are the exact words going thru Gary's head. Anybody else pick up on that poker comedy or is it just me?
I love how daniels masterclass was the ad on this video. 😂
I can just pray to god people not buying it.
I know you give Ryan Feldman a bit of a hard time but I think he is a pretty great poker commentator! Thanks for the awesome video!
i am one of those guys who said you talk too much in previous videos.. i liked this one though. thumbs up. To be clear, NOT because of what you said, but because i was still able to watch the hand and you weren't talking during the hand.. i can't stand that... there is so much going on, i like to hear, see, and "smell" the hand... get a feel for it myself. I couldn't have folded here on the river with KK, he set it up to be played like that, he could have bet the flop and controlled the pot size, but he didn't. he put himself in this position, and didn't have the foresight to plan for what he was going to do when he got there.
Abe with the very standard call with J4 suited here
Keep going Doug. The content you produce is insightful and very useful. Don’t worry about the haters bro.
guys, Ii would like to take this moment to say that Ii really appreciate that a sometime high-stakes player actually takes time out and makes these videos..maybe his time as that player is up..but thats OK..ill take this I guess..thanks Doug
Can you go into why you would mostly bet the flop here with Kings. What other hands would you bet flop with? And if you do check, what other hands would you check it with. What are the pros and cons of each line.
Why are the older guy's arms two different sizes?
I dont get it. Did he drew to a king on the turn or what? got prolly his best card and went into tank.
LMAO THIS VIDEOS AD WAS DANIEL NEGREANUS MASTER CLASS
gotta love clicking on one of dougs videos and watching an add from dnegs before it starts.
I'm personally a fan of checking most of my range out of position as the aggressor on a dry board like 972 rain, the main reasons being overpairs are usually only good for two streets of value anyways and I don't want to have to cbet all my AK and AQ on boards that favor my opponents. If someone has a counter argument I'd love to hear it.
“At this point, J4 suited makes a very disciplined lay down on the 972 flop”
Doug, I have only one piece of advice for you when it comes to your poker “semi retirement” ... no matter what happens, make sure that you always, always ..... keep a lookout for water bottles that are placed near your keyboard
My man dougie would probably just call. 100k aint no thang
Guys Doug’s back already! I knew he wouldn’t leave us
Good review but you forgot to mention what they personally know about each other - remember, they’ve played together a lot. Andy may know something about Gary that we don’t ie. He folds too much
I certainly don't think I am an expert but look at Andy's face at 13:21! Does that facial expression connote confidence?
The more rake is better king himself is advertising on your youtube ads for his masterclass haha
Algorithms on youtube simply advertise toward your interests.
Thought doug would have more to say on the end. Way to leave us hanging.
You forgot to change the description from the previous video!
Doug suggesting exploitatively raising Kings more in loose games???? What is this madness, next you’ll tell me Hellmuth won another bracelet
Based on how Feldman thought Andy was incapable of bluffing 3 streets in big pots, that is maybe a good fold in the long run. I ship it there for sure though unfortunately. Of course in a 100k pot I would probably piss myself in terror before I shipped it.
7:05 Abe needs to balance his right arm vs left arm sizing