I'm testing them right now and I can see you were so right about them that for some tracks they are just so brilliant and heartmoving, while on others there is a huge freaking elephant in the room named Sssssssssss-sh. 😄 They are odd sometimes but they definitely have their sparkling magic which hooks you up
Well, fortunately my ears are a bit older now, so I'm no longer so overly sensitive to this kind of problems in the treble region. Maybe that's one of the reasons why I still love my HD 800S.
This is Romanian salt, don't eat it! :) Great review and I purchased because of it. Really love this headphone--it's a headphone for life for me. Really enjoy your reviews.
@@ConvinceMeAudio I think you nailed the characteristics of the frequency response and that's why I bought it too. I wanted a nice sound stage with some equality across the spectrum and some defined mid range (I love rock music/guitar). Love the ability to locate sounds in the mid range too. For what I listen to, I haven't had *too* many "honky" tracks (a couple--the vocals for "In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel seem to demonstrate that shrillness a bit) Thanks again! :)
I know mate, that’s why I said the Diana TC closed, if that’s what they will call it, But we have nothing to go on right now, and it seemed like the best logical guess LOL
Super specific question that I think you may be the only person qualified to answer haha: I was looking at these as I wanted to add a closed back planar to my collection, but I was recently also offered a DCA Stealth at a pretty good discount (still close to $1000 more than the Liric’s but still). Which would you choose? I’d be running them off of a iFi iCan Pro Signature. Both seem to be pretty amp dependent, but I feel like the iCan would be able to run them both well. Love me a nice soundstage, which the Liric seems to have, but I’ve heard the imaging of the Stealths is pretty incredible too. DECISIONS 😩 (The fact that this is a perfect example of a first world problem is not lost on me haha). Anyway thank you for your reviews and if you respond here, thanks in advance! *quick edit, I’d be doing most of my listening at home, although if I got the Liric’s I’d probably take them out very occasionally
Okay, if you go for the stealth, expect to be using it at your desk, only never been able to take it out due to the power requirements In fact, if it wasn’t for the chain you’re already planning to use it on I would discount it out right, this is a pair of headphones that requires speaker amplifiers to be driven properly Stealth are nice headphones, but they require very high and powerful chain to run properly the problematic and they change with every chain LIRIC, you can take on the go and at the desk I love this headphones. I personally would choose this one, but the tuning is a little odd. You either love it or it’s not for you,
@@ConvinceMeAudio Wow thanks so much for the quick response! I’m hoping I can get at least close to max performance out of the Stealth with the iCan, but you’ve got me questioning that. Only reason I’m slightly leaning towards the Stealth is because of how it might scale with better equipment. I’m not entirely sure how the Liric’s scale though, so that may not even be as big of a deal. I listen to a lot of different genres, so I’m also looking for something close to an all-rounder. Idk which would fit that description better haha.
@@JaviGCalderoni the stealth scales better and is more conducive to a rounded experience of a multitude of genres. Definitely, just don’t expect to take it on the go, otherwise I would go for stealth. If on the go is on your mind go for LIRIC
@@ConvinceMeAudio I appreciate this advice so much, man. Quite honestly you’re one of the best reviewers on RUclips, so this means a lot. Looking forward to a full review of the Stealths, if you’ve got one planned at least 😊 Thanks so much for helping me out. I think I’m going to try the Stealths out and see what happens
@@JaviGCalderoni my pleasure mate, and good luck, definitely drop back here and give us your impressions, I’m pretty sure it will come in for review at some point LOL If you have any further questions don’t hesitate to ask, or consider joining CMA telegram the public chat a lot more active there myself
Thank you. I very much wanted to know how they compared to the Stellias. I definately have to give them a run. Disappointed that it is very amp and gendre dependant. The nice thing about the Elite is that they sound great on everything. However, I do enjoy EDM and looking for a headphone that can bring that to life, so can't wait to try them.
Literally been edited now, it needs to be released ASAP, due to the Atrium release, with a bit of luck I’m trying to get hold of the atrium too, so keep an eye out in the next few days
I wanted to buy some. Luckily I tried them, I found them dull, lifeless. I compared them to the HIFIMAN ANANDA STEALTH MAGNET which was next to it. I bought HIFIMAN HE-1000 V4 STEALTH MAGNETS instead.
Currently own the Fiio btr7. Looking into getting the iFi Go Blu. Out of these 2 which do you think would drive the Meze Lyrics best? Appreciate your knowledge and the work you put into your vids bro
@ConvinceMeAudio I prefer Bluetooth because I physically have to move around a lot at work and it is easier to be able to set my phone down and do what I need to do.
@ConvinceMeAudio the Fiio Btr7 have been excellent for my focal elegia but idk how it would fair when we venture into the big boy sector of the Meze Liric
The sound isn't as full. I'm finding it too much perhaps. Because it has de-emphasized mid expression, it all this detail in the highs and doesn't let your relax. It was on a chord Hugo TT2 and they were brand new. Did you notice much difference new verses post burn in?
Thanks! Was comparing them with Aeon 2 Closed. The imaging isn't as great but they are more relaxing. They are closely matched actually considering Aeon is half the price. The Aeon Noire are selling like hotcakes, a review of those might attract some attention. As far as portible go is either them or the lirics.
There is one close at hand, I will bring it in for review, the imaging in regards to Meze really does seem to be a hit and miss for people it’s really strange, it has some of the best imaging in the industry, but only a handful of people seem to experience it versus the other half it’s odd as hell And it all comes down to where that spiral part of the driver sits near the ear canal or over
I've been having a huge dilemma. I've been offered the Focal Stellia (used excellent condition) for $1,700 and the Meze Liric (used excellent condition) for $1,300. I currently own the Audeze LCD-XC and the Sennheiser HD 800 S. Which would you add go for?
Ouch, a very difficult choice, but I think I might go for the STELLIA. LIRIC Tuning is very strange, but so transparent and high resolution and it’s an absolutely incredible pair of cans. I just re-purchased it actually, But the focal is safer bet And it scales up tremendously The MEZE I think has to be demoed 1st to see if it suits your music taste, because if you’re listening to badly recorded music, it’s going to tell you like Pop and hip-hop badly mixed general, consumer crap What is one of my favourite headphones genuinely and it’s right there on my table
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks for the quick and prompt reply! I went for the Stellia before asking the question. Your video review of the Liric had me second guessing if I made the right choice but your comment insures that I did. Cheers!
There will be a shootout video coming very shortly between all of the flagship closed backs But a quick summary portability is an issue with XC, stage is bigger on XE The rest this takes it
I have, but close to 56 years ago take it with a pinch of salt please Those headphones plus the HD820 or some of the worst headphones I have ever tried in the flagship category, not my favourite in the slightest. My apologies Sticky, GUI, soft, I don’t like it elite is much better
@@ConvinceMeAudio No need to apologize at all. The Z1R’s are probably the most polarizing cans in the flagship space. It is like the cilantro of cans, either you love it or hate it. I’m on the “love it” team, also with the cilantro, btw. I tried the HD820 and didn’t despise them, but would never buy one myself. I understand those who don’t like the Sony. It took me 20 hours until my brain finally understood its sound profile and presentation and clicked. Before that moment I was afraid I had done a bad choice. But from then on, it’s been listening bliss. It’s a shame hp’s like the Elite are so rare (and even more expensive) where I live. Would live to try those, but I guess they’d be on the fatiguing side to me, as I’m treble sensitive. The HE1000v2 is my second favorite headphones and on my wishlist. But one hour on them was enough to get me tired. Love your reviews. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Brazil. Oh, and I get a good bite from the Z1R using the BF2 or Mojo as a dac, and Burson Soloist mk2 amp.
@@moysesdecarvalho that’s the problem, you lay out the problem exactly I did not listen to it on my own chain. It was not longer than a couple of hours and those circumstances are always very dangerous to give full impressions on. I have loved and adored some of the most polarising headphones in the space LOL p9 signatures HD700 et cetera, I hope I come across it to do a thorough in-depth review
@@ConvinceMeAudio i hope you get the chance to review them with your setup. They are seemingly easy to drive but scale immensely with a good chain. On my iPhone dongle it sounds soft with bloated and very loose bass and almost no depth, albeit having a tall stage. With the Mojo 2 the transients are all sharper, the bass gets tighter and more precise (with less amount too). Imaging gets really good and with better depth. And with the Burson, oh boy, it gets glorious. Bass hits hard and very precisely (slams harder with bf2), the depth and tridimensionality is mesmerizing. It also gets wider with a black background. Mojo 2 + Burson: better imaging a and a tad more separation. BIfrost 2 + Burson (my favorite): more realism, lovely reverb decay and dynamics. I can only im
sound its pretty nice, but i have problem with putting them on my head, the cups constatly rotating or fliping around my ear, do you have also that problem?:)
Purchased bought sold deep regret selling Sadly, I can’t keep everything I love for longer than a couple of months even if I wanted to, but I think either of these or Stellia Will be coming back to stay permanently,
This is my first time on this channel. I honestly can't tell, but is this guy blind? He is so tactile and his head doesn't seem to follow all of his movements. Just curious.
2000, nought 4000 But the tuning does carry over, it’s just a little strange Don’t let this deceive you though, it’s a fantastic headphone and is still one of my favourite closedd back headphones
@@ConvinceMeAudio If you had to choose which Meze would you go for? Also heard a lot about the Raal SR1A headphones but not sure if they can be used with your phone outdoors as I heard they work with headphone amps. Can the Maze headphones be used outdoors with your phone without an amp or are they for indoor use only and need amp. I'm looking for a high end quality headphones that can be used both for outdoors without needing an amp, any recommendations?
@@nadergt1 oh nooo RAAL needs their own interface to connect to an amp, And they require a lot of power serious power My favourite MEZE is LIRIC, genuinely I think it’s the best MEZE check out the review
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks mate I appreciate that but I did watch this review that's why I'm making comments. So I can use the LIRIC outdoors with my phone without needing an amp? And for that price range is that the brand you'd buy or would you buy some other brand.
@@nadergt1 Between those and Stellia Are the two I would choose for outside usage, they are both easy to drive, LIRIC is more difficult obviously so I recommend a portable amplifier DAC genuinely You don’t want your flagship headphones to make sound you want to at least be able to enjoy the high performance they’re capable of at least So a mojo2 for both would be absolutely ideal for outside usage
OMG, what a review. Just ordered one. Will report back one it burns in. thank You
Thanks for the kind words
Hope you like it
Welcome to the fam 🐅
Great review as always, thanks a lot for putting in the effort!
I'm testing them right now and I can see you were so right about them that for some tracks they are just so brilliant and heartmoving, while on others there is a huge freaking elephant in the room named Sssssssssss-sh. 😄 They are odd sometimes but they definitely have their sparkling magic which hooks you up
this is an amazing review pal, thank you for the high quality, insta sub!
Thank you for the kind words, welcome to the fam 🐅
Thanks for the review!
On the road ..listening 😎
Well, fortunately my ears are a bit older now, so I'm no longer so overly sensitive to this kind of problems in the treble region. Maybe that's one of the reasons why I still love my HD 800S.
Thanks for the review. How about rock/metal with Liric? Epica, Icon for Hire, Evanescence, Flashgod Apocalypse, for example. :D
This is Romanian salt, don't eat it! :) Great review and I purchased because of it. Really love this headphone--it's a headphone for life for me. Really enjoy your reviews.
Very glad you enjoyed the review, excellent purchase.
There ultra comfortable excellent at the desk and you can walk out with it too, they’re superb
@@ConvinceMeAudio I think you nailed the characteristics of the frequency response and that's why I bought it too. I wanted a nice sound stage with some equality across the spectrum and some defined mid range (I love rock music/guitar). Love the ability to locate sounds in the mid range too. For what I listen to, I haven't had *too* many "honky" tracks (a couple--the vocals for "In Your Eyes" by Peter Gabriel seem to demonstrate that shrillness a bit) Thanks again! :)
The Diana Phi TC isn't closed back, just clarifying. Great review man!
I know mate, that’s why I said the Diana TC closed, if that’s what they will call it,
But we have nothing to go on right now, and it seemed like the best logical guess LOL
@@ConvinceMeAudio oh thanks for your help
I need to stop watching Liric videos before I hurt my savings
Super specific question that I think you may be the only person qualified to answer haha: I was looking at these as I wanted to add a closed back planar to my collection, but I was recently also offered a DCA Stealth at a pretty good discount (still close to $1000 more than the Liric’s but still). Which would you choose? I’d be running them off of a iFi iCan Pro Signature. Both seem to be pretty amp dependent, but I feel like the iCan would be able to run them both well. Love me a nice soundstage, which the Liric seems to have, but I’ve heard the imaging of the Stealths is pretty incredible too. DECISIONS 😩 (The fact that this is a perfect example of a first world problem is not lost on me haha). Anyway thank you for your reviews and if you respond here, thanks in advance!
*quick edit, I’d be doing most of my listening at home, although if I got the Liric’s I’d probably take them out very occasionally
Okay, if you go for the stealth, expect to be using it at your desk, only never been able to take it out due to the power requirements
In fact, if it wasn’t for the chain you’re already planning to use it on I would discount it out right, this is a pair of headphones that requires speaker amplifiers to be driven properly
Stealth are nice headphones, but they require very high and powerful chain to run properly the problematic and they change with every chain
LIRIC, you can take on the go and at the desk I love this headphones. I personally would choose this one, but the tuning is a little odd. You either love it or it’s not for you,
@@ConvinceMeAudio Wow thanks so much for the quick response! I’m hoping I can get at least close to max performance out of the Stealth with the iCan, but you’ve got me questioning that. Only reason I’m slightly leaning towards the Stealth is because of how it might scale with better equipment. I’m not entirely sure how the Liric’s scale though, so that may not even be as big of a deal. I listen to a lot of different genres, so I’m also looking for something close to an all-rounder. Idk which would fit that description better haha.
@@JaviGCalderoni the stealth scales better and is more conducive to a rounded experience of a multitude of genres. Definitely, just don’t expect to take it on the go, otherwise I would go for stealth. If on the go is on your mind go for LIRIC
@@ConvinceMeAudio I appreciate this advice so much, man. Quite honestly you’re one of the best reviewers on RUclips, so this means a lot. Looking forward to a full review of the Stealths, if you’ve got one planned at least 😊 Thanks so much for helping me out. I think I’m going to try the Stealths out and see what happens
@@JaviGCalderoni my pleasure mate, and good luck, definitely drop back here and give us your impressions, I’m pretty sure it will come in for review at some point LOL
If you have any further questions don’t hesitate to ask, or consider joining CMA telegram the public chat a lot more active there myself
Thank you. I very much wanted to know how they compared to the Stellias. I definately have to give them a run. Disappointed that it is very amp and gendre dependant. The nice thing about the Elite is that they sound great on everything. However, I do enjoy EDM and looking for a headphone that can bring that to life, so can't wait to try them.
Definitely, the elite just works with everything and on everything. But these headphones are truly fantastic, when the sauce is just right 🍬
Where is VC? I have been waiting for it. By the way, I love your review. Thank you.
Literally been edited now, it needs to be released ASAP, due to the Atrium release, with a bit of luck I’m trying to get hold of the atrium too, so keep an eye out in the next few days
Really weird interlude there at 19:50. Cuts right to goblu, talks about it, shows it. I mean, it looks like an ad. I think it is an ad.
Ok..to rich for my blood.
I’ll go S 12 on my IFI Go Blue 🥂
Great review!
I wanted to buy some. Luckily I tried them, I found them dull, lifeless. I compared them to the HIFIMAN ANANDA STEALTH MAGNET which was next to it. I bought HIFIMAN HE-1000 V4 STEALTH MAGNETS instead.
Currently own the Fiio btr7. Looking into getting the iFi Go Blu. Out of these 2 which do you think would drive the Meze Lyrics best?
Appreciate your knowledge and the work you put into your vids bro
Do you have to or do you need Bluetooth exclusively?
Questyle m15 how to write annihilates both of them
@ConvinceMeAudio I prefer Bluetooth because I physically have to move around a lot at work and it is easier to be able to set my phone down and do what I need to do.
@ConvinceMeAudio the Fiio Btr7 have been excellent for my focal elegia but idk how it would fair when we venture into the big boy sector of the Meze Liric
@@cppdee go blu will serve. Your purpose is very nicely, I like it a lot, especially when it warms up after 10 minutes.
@@ConvinceMeAudio THANK YOU! Really appreciate you taking the time to reply.
Hi, can you specific DSP settings with Mojo 2 and Liric? Thank you in advance!
The sound isn't as full. I'm finding it too much perhaps. Because it has de-emphasized mid expression, it all this detail in the highs and doesn't let your relax.
It was on a chord Hugo TT2 and they were brand new. Did you notice much difference new verses post burn in?
Make sure you’re getting a proper seal on the pads mate
I broke them in for 50h
Definitely helped with the treble somewhat
Thanks! Was comparing them with Aeon 2 Closed. The imaging isn't as great but they are more relaxing. They are closely matched actually considering Aeon is half the price. The Aeon Noire are selling like hotcakes, a review of those might attract some attention. As far as portible go is either them or the lirics.
There is one close at hand, I will bring it in for review, the imaging in regards to Meze really does seem to be a hit and miss for people it’s really strange, it has some of the best imaging in the industry, but only a handful of people seem to experience it versus the other half it’s odd as hell
And it all comes down to where that spiral part of the driver sits near the ear canal or over
Burnin isnt real
I've been having a huge dilemma. I've been offered the Focal Stellia (used excellent condition) for $1,700 and the Meze Liric (used excellent condition) for $1,300. I currently own the Audeze LCD-XC and the Sennheiser HD 800 S. Which would you add go for?
Ouch, a very difficult choice, but I think I might go for the STELLIA.
LIRIC Tuning is very strange, but so transparent and high resolution
and it’s an absolutely incredible pair of cans. I just re-purchased it actually,
But the focal is safer bet
And it scales up tremendously
The MEZE I think has to be demoed 1st to see if it suits your music taste, because if you’re listening to badly recorded music, it’s going to tell you like Pop and hip-hop badly mixed general, consumer crap
What is one of my favourite headphones genuinely and it’s right there on my table
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks for the quick and prompt reply! I went for the Stellia before asking the question. Your video review of the Liric had me second guessing if I made the right choice but your comment insures that I did. Cheers!
How do you compare these to the audience xc(with Delphi pads)?
*dekoni pads
There will be a shootout video coming very shortly between all of the flagship closed backs
But a quick summary portability is an issue with XC, stage is bigger on XE The rest this takes it
Thanks, keep it up!!!!
Have tou tried the MDR-Z1R? How would they compare to the Liric?
The Z1R are my favorite headphones nowadays.
I have, but close to 56 years ago take it with a pinch of salt please
Those headphones plus the HD820 or some of the worst headphones I have ever tried in the flagship category, not my favourite in the slightest. My apologies
Sticky, GUI, soft, I don’t like it elite is much better
@@ConvinceMeAudio No need to apologize at all. The Z1R’s are probably the most polarizing cans in the flagship space. It is like the cilantro of cans, either you love it or hate it. I’m on the “love it” team, also with the cilantro, btw.
I tried the HD820 and didn’t despise them, but would never buy one myself.
I understand those who don’t like the Sony. It took me 20 hours until my brain finally understood its sound profile and presentation and clicked. Before that moment I was afraid I had done a bad choice. But from then on, it’s been listening bliss.
It’s a shame hp’s like the Elite are so rare (and even more expensive) where I live. Would live to try those, but I guess they’d be on the fatiguing side to me, as I’m treble sensitive.
The HE1000v2 is my second favorite headphones and on my wishlist. But one hour on them was enough to get me tired.
Love your reviews. Keep up the good work. Cheers from Brazil.
Oh, and I get a good bite from the Z1R using the BF2 or Mojo as a dac, and Burson Soloist mk2 amp.
@@moysesdecarvalho that’s the problem, you lay out the problem exactly
I did not listen to it on my own chain. It was not longer than a couple of hours and those circumstances are always very dangerous to give full impressions on.
I have loved and adored some of the most polarising headphones in the space LOL p9 signatures HD700 et cetera, I hope I come across it to do a thorough in-depth review
@@ConvinceMeAudio i hope you get the chance to review them with your setup.
They are seemingly easy to drive but scale immensely with a good chain. On my iPhone dongle it sounds soft with bloated and very loose bass and almost no depth, albeit having a tall stage.
With the Mojo 2 the transients are all sharper, the bass gets tighter and more precise (with less amount too). Imaging gets really good and with better depth.
And with the Burson, oh boy, it gets glorious. Bass hits hard and very precisely (slams harder with bf2), the depth and tridimensionality is mesmerizing. It also gets wider with a black background.
Mojo 2 + Burson: better imaging a and a tad more separation.
BIfrost 2 + Burson (my favorite): more realism, lovely reverb decay and dynamics.
I can only im
Can your friend at web site make discount on these?
Reach out to Mimic and see what he says
Say you’re from CMA
sound its pretty nice, but i have problem with putting them on my head, the cups constatly rotating or fliping around my ear, do you have also that problem?:)
Absolutely not they were always very comfortable and secure on my head
@@ConvinceMeAudio weird.. my keep spinning around..
So the GO blu is not a good match? Or was it simply not as good as the other desktop set ups you use?
It’s okay, but it can’t drive it properly
So the base region becomes a little lacking and the TRBLE becomes too sharp
@@ConvinceMeAudio you're right 100%, just tested the pair at SG CanJam.
Danke!
Thank you so much for your support it’s very much appreciated ❤️🐅 welcome to the fam
@ConvinceMeAudio You're dearly welcome! 🐅
Maybe there's a connection, because I have my own personal thing going on with tigers.
@@techmed-rainer wild, cats, are a passion of mine, probably more than audio
@@ConvinceMeAudio Do you have some at your home?
@@techmed-rainer oh I wish, definitely not, you’re not allowed to keep Tigers in the UK
Did you buy these?
Purchased bought sold deep regret selling
Sadly, I can’t keep everything I love for longer than a couple of months even if I wanted to, but I think either of these or Stellia Will be coming back to stay permanently,
Will it work well with a ifi zen dac v2?
I used it regularly with a go blu and it’s great and they scale up
But be careful, they are a bright, hp and synergy can be problematic sometimes
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thank you
"Romanian salt,. please don't eat it"
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This is my first time on this channel. I honestly can't tell, but is this guy blind? He is so tactile and his head doesn't seem to follow all of his movements. Just curious.
Observant, indeed
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks for responding. I am really enjoying your channel.
@@vasocreta thank you very much, it’s very much appreciated, if you have any questions tag me,
welcome to the fam 🐅
Paying $4000 for a headphone which is really made for Romanian or certain Genre Only ???
2000, nought 4000
But the tuning does carry over, it’s just a little strange
Don’t let this deceive you though, it’s a fantastic headphone and is still one of my favourite closedd back headphones
@@ConvinceMeAudio If you had to choose which Meze would you go for?
Also heard a lot about the Raal SR1A headphones but not sure if they can be used with your phone outdoors as I heard they work with headphone amps.
Can the Maze headphones be used outdoors with your phone without an amp or are they for indoor use only and need amp.
I'm looking for a high end quality headphones that can be used both for outdoors without needing an amp, any recommendations?
@@nadergt1 oh nooo RAAL needs their own interface to connect to an amp,
And they require a lot of power serious power
My favourite MEZE is LIRIC, genuinely
I think it’s the best MEZE
check out the review
@@ConvinceMeAudio Thanks mate I appreciate that but I did watch this review that's why I'm making comments.
So I can use the LIRIC outdoors with my phone without needing an amp? And for that price range is that the brand you'd buy or would you buy some other brand.
@@nadergt1 Between those and Stellia
Are the two I would choose for outside usage, they are both easy to drive, LIRIC is more difficult obviously so I recommend a portable amplifier DAC genuinely
You don’t want your flagship headphones to make sound you want to at least be able to enjoy the high performance they’re capable of at least
So a mojo2 for both would be absolutely ideal for outside usage
Dude everything ain't superb with this headphone. Too much enthusiasm
If you watch the whole review, you will realise I never say it is lol