Element 14 Pi Desktop Overview And Assembly
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In this video I show off and assemble the new element 14 Raspberry Pi Desktop it supports mSATA ssd up to 1TB. Is it worth the price?
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Or just connect any regular SSD up to it through a USB to SATA connector.
Let's give you the option to mount an SSD and then run it through USB 2.0 port so we rob you of ANY speed benefit an SSD would bring to the party.
In their defense, there's no better way to do it-the USB 2.0 is the fastest interface the Pi has. Which of course means there is no reason for a product like this to exist in the first place.
I've been running a Pi based car media system for about a year now. I just use a 128GB SanDisk USB drive for media storage, and OpenElec media center, which is designed for rugged "appliance" like use. In this last year, I had one single SD card failure, but I made a disk image after configuration, so I simply had to clone that image to a new SD card and go from there.
My Pi, video signal amplifier (BOSS BVAM5), and a gutted USB car charger all sit under the center armrest, where I was able to steal some 12V and snug things in nicely. No case or anything, just some electrical tape for insulation on a few things. Took about 5 hours to get it all in and wired to a pair of cheap headrest monitors I bought on Amazon.
Good luck!
Nice! Can you tell me a bit more about the auto-resume script?
Mine was a bit on a budget, and I have an '08 Prius, so no good spaces in the trunk (hatchback, and we carry a bunch of stuff routinely, so I didn't want it beat up). I only keep semi-recent stuff on mine, so no need for all of my library. I use MediaElch to organize it and dump NFO files to the directories, so I don't have to bring the whole thing in.
There's definitely plenty of ways to skin this cat! :) I like the magnet quick-detach idea!
where did you get the msata for $40?
was talking about the one in the video he said it was $40 locally
It's rather pricey, but the advantage is that it is entirely self-contained.
I think it would make a really good Retropie console.
I have often wondered why nobody makes a console-style case with the ports broken out.
So many people are using the Pi for Retropie that I think a dedicated console case would sell well.
They have sold cases that look like a NES for ages.
the case looks nice but you could run your pi3+ on an usb flash drive or hdd/ssd (hdd is limited to 2.5 inch drive unless is a powered hdd) you just need a micro sd card for the first boot to run a couple of commandson the terminal and then remove the sd card and install the pixel image into the usb drive. From then on you'll boot into the usb drive normally.
Looks sick. I don't find myself needing more than a few gigs for retro games on the pi3 though.
Would make a good mini ps1 classic
Yeah, that's a cool case and all, I'm glad they make stuff like this... but after you spend that kinda money, you defeated the purpose of buying a $32 computer.
45 usd if ur not american/british, 10 for charger, 10-20 for sd's if you're lucky enough to buy an sd card that's compatible on the first try*, so it was never really 32 usd for the vast majority. And this is still a cheap and practical solution. It's still way cheaper then a chromebook and you're not forced to use a shitty laptop keyboard and trackpad, so it can be practical if you travel a lot for instance and only need to check your email and do some word processing. Or if you're just wanna do some coding and tinkering while traveling.
*personally I went through about 6 sd cards and 24 hours of troubleshooting, as a crappy sd card gives you a low power warning so you tend to replace adapters and adapter cables before sd cards. there is no support available apart from other users who also don't know how the thing is built
they come with their own sd card, and who doesnt have tons of phone chargers at this point?
98%+ of the time, we have no idea how much our PC motherboard costs. (I'm making exception for DIYers, but once they leave the scene, they lose track of what x86 boards casts, too) Would it somehow be better to spend $100 on a media center without knowing what board they use or what it costs?
What about the power button to turn off and on, was a script needed, did it work. What does it do?
+ETA PRIME said it's a HAT. All HATs have a small I²C EEPROM containing config information which Raspbian uses to identify them and automatically load any necessary software. It may not work out of the box with other distributions.
Very underwhelming. I was looking forward to this but the price is too high. I like the Flirc case too much and the idea of a western digital is much better since you can get really large size drives instead. Thanks for the vid!
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You don't need the SDCard in the Pi at all times to boot from the SSD. This is covered in the Pi Desktop user manual, also RaspberryPi.org covers how to set the bit on the Pi 3 to enable this to happen. If you've got a problem with booting from solely the SSD then the image probably hasn't been written to the SSD properly, you only need the SDCard on the first boot to set this bit.
+Christopher Stanton yep I did a video on it. ruclips.net/video/YxWzC5qWvvU/видео.html
Thanks for the overview. Any update on the powering mode does the kit include a script or firmware? Does the flirc case have an alternate power on/off method?
The msata attaches to the hat but connects externally to the USB? what a joke.
Alan Angel the same as network da fuk one usb to all devices ab u get a 2.2 mbps speed.... LOL
Great Video! :-) A couple of questions about it. 1. What about the operating temperature of the PI3 when stressed ? There is a official list of SSD supported? Thanks and my compliments about this video!
Always wanted to see this, very curious in buying one, thanks again ETA Prime!
very good, i have two of these BUT i have had to add a cooling fan otherwise my raspi 3 went too hot. Please add,in the next version of the case, a cooling fan! And another hint: let the user to add and remove the micro-sd card without dismantle all the raspi set-up... Many Thanks!
Hey nice video! I would be interested in seeing if the msata drive speed would increase the performance at all.
I wonder if there is any SDIO or MMC to SATA bridge chip. If so it may be a better idea to use the SDIO on the GPIO pins to access the SATA drive, or use a small ribbon cable that attaches to the microSD card slot on the Pi.
Wondering if the coller will have any benefit. Maybe you can produce a video measuring the temperatures using your scripts.
Just wondering if you know what size fan you are supposed to use?
I have an idea for a new video :-) What about using it as a server / web server ? Temp, performance and reliability ?
Is there a hard limit on how big th SSD can be? I'm thinking of buying either a 1TB or a 2TB Msata SSD, But if It can't do 2TB, Then the decision is over.
Tip: If your having cooling issues with this hat and case all setup, Then I suggest using a Pi 2. For some reason The Pi 2 doesn't sweat as much as The Pi 3, So it's works a lot better.
Hmm, since the data is only being transferred through USB then this should work with the Tinker Board right?
hey prime please check that case with your asus tinkerboard as its supposed to be fully cross compatible with the pi 3
Can this be used as a base to be hooked up to a camera, and router to send data to a base computer?
Does a dual fan heatsink fit in that pi case?
great video but what is a flir drive?
Awesome
look nice but what is whitch cooling? no fan?
does your power supply remain the same at 2500 or 3000Ma and 5v?
Don't need an 3a Adapter? I terrible shame of the PiDrive is that when you run Retropie on the PiDrive with their 3A adapter it's still giving the not enough power warning......
raspberry really really needs to do something about their sad slow io everywhere...and soon.
Nice videos. Helpt me a lot with the raspberry pie. Thanks man!
would you happen to know what the part number of the fan you can add to the pi desktop.
How does the Pi get power? The Micro USB is blocked off, and I didn't see a connector inside the case for it. Can the Pi be powered through the GPIO pins?
Joseph Still it's powered by the hat from the gpio
what and the dimension between the raspberry and the card or there is the ssd thank you
Can wait until usb c and faster network speeds are available on the pi.
I had so many issues trying to get berryboot to work, like every singleexteral drive or usb stick I tried it just dosn't want to touch, gives one erro or another
is it more viable to build a raspberry pi retro console or use an android tablet/ tv to emulate games?
Use retropie, way better than a tablet, cheap, easy to assemble, and all the games you want from atari to playstation 1
That's a good question. I'd say it depends on what is important to you. The biggest problem that comes to mind with the Pi 3 is CPU power. But if it emulates the stuff you want, then that's not a big problem. I don't know the real limitations of the Pi 3 as I don't have one(I have Odroids) Or you can look to the more powerful boards like the Odroids(which do both Linux and Android), Tinker Board(also Linux and Android) or the x86 boards like Up Board or a Chinese Atom computer.
I can tell you that emulation on Android using Retroarch works very well in my experience. I've used it on a tablet, on the Odroids, on a Mad Catz Mojo and a Razer Forge TV. I have run into issues getting things set up, such as it seeing controllers or the keyboard. I found that older versions(1.3.4, 1.3.6) were easier to set up than 1.4.x. I believe it wasn't recognizing my keyboard or something, but it's been a while. I also found that compatibility with wired USB controllers is not as good on Android. I have USB adapters that just don't work with Retroarch for Android 5 and up(they work on 4.4 and down for some reason). This is not an issue on Linux. If you don't plan to use wired controllers, then this is probably a non issue.
friend try it with Flint OS, it has some weird things but I love it
M.2 speed is let's say around 500 MBps and usb 2.0 have max speed at 60 MBps. Looks like pendrive is more worth it to use. From the other hand maybe this is for upcoming product with usb 3.0 ;) heh, good to have dreams.
+Konrad Wilusz let's hope the
Pi 4
From what i've read the pi 4 won't be coming out until 2019 so looks like the raspberry pi will be falling even further behind other items like the tinkerbox that is a 1.8ghz quad core cpu and 2 gig ram as of now. Just think where it will be by 2019
yeah, I was going to say that is an awfully fast drive to be running off of USB 2, it is a waste. Maybe the pi4 will have USB 3 or C and a SSD will be worth it.
This would be perfect if only we would be able to increase the RAM ourselves. Because with only 1 Gb you can do not many things.
a real honest review
assuming the samba services and nfs installed on this thing, its gonna be over kill.
does it come with the fan
Is this compatible with RPI4
Yeah but... once it's closed... how in heavens you open it up again? I'm afraid of breaking it :(
I don't get it. It connects the SSD to USB? What for?
This has to be the worst choice for an inexpensive desktop system. The pi really doesn't make a good every day computer regardless of what you add on to it, it was never meant to be. I actually tried to use a pi 3 as my main system for a week to see if it's viable and it drove me round the bend, especially when I just wanted to get some work done. The only positive is I spent less time on the computer! Sure the pi certainly has its uses, but for a an actual desktop computer on the cheap your a lot better off just getting a used PC. You can get those HP and Dell small form factor business systems such as the HP Elite 8200 for around £120, there's millions of them out there, since most organisations keep them for a few years then scrap them. I've found quite a few with an i5 ivy bridge cpu, 4gb ram and a 500gb - 1tb hard drive, and almost always have a Windows key stuck to the side. A lot of those corporate work station systems are built like tanks as well, so it will last a while. When you count the cost of the pi, this desktop kit, the MSATA drive, the micro SD card, and a power supply your really not that far off, and its just going to be so much more useful.
Great review thanks.
duuuude this video is soooo smooothh
but I have my pi drive the new version of rasbian pixel running on my pi no SD I just burn the image on my pi drive and I'm good to go I don't have to do nothing
Julio Feliu what image are you using? I cannot get it to work without configuring the drive first
ETA PRIME www.raspberrypi.org/documentation/hardware/raspberrypi/bootmodes/msd.md
ETA PRIME 04/10/17 image idk is because I'm use pi drive wd but work for me
Brianhoffman1 I was using a different Pi3 one that I haven't set this up on yet. I thought I set it up on all of them lol
so I followed that guide today and my retropie still needed a couple adjustmets to boot without the SD. It appears the FSTAB file in /ETC was still pointing at the default location. So I added the paths and I am good to go. wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Fstab
isn't direct boot from the mSATA SSD ?
Yes it can if you set the necessary bit on the Pi 3.
too much to get desktop working. it work just with raspberry pi lol. nobody know its raspberry pi when it inside cool case. what is good with that :)
Eta please check also Asus Tinker Board. It is identical with Raspberry PI. So can you do the test? Thx you doing great job!
1080p60 is nice but your video is very dark, I think you should improve the lighting.
I have two balls and the other thing reminds me of a carrot. Hm I wonder what that's about. 🤔
So what does this ad now?
What a disappointment... I was about to get this, thanks for reviewing it.
+SubMax SubRose I'll have a new video up tomorrow testing speed in Raspbian but it won't be any faster than the USB can fiction at.
A new fancy case with extra ssd certainly will not make it to desktop as long as the motherboard is the same rsp 3 it will never be even something close to desktop anyway nice try 😂
what an idiot device... when you sum the costs of all the components, you end up paying more than ANY cheap Z8350 mini pc, which has 2gb ram and at least 32gb emms/ssd... advantage of rpi, the gpio? Completely unusable here... they could have fit a power supply inside, instead you have to use an external, and worst you have to connect the rpi and the addon ssd card EXTERNALLY... meh!
squalazzo power supply would have been nice but I'd still be regretting the purchase.
Everyone's screaming how stupid this is... yes, but it's not element 14's fault. Pi just doesn't have any fast interfaces to attach storage to except the USB 2.0.
What you really should be doing is to yell at the pi foundation that their product is shit and should have proper SATA or m.2 interface or in general fast interfaces like PCIe... but that would cost a lot of money and take up board real estate and isn't the reason why Pi was even made.
There's a bunch of SBC's on the market that will allow you to use SATA or m.2 hard drives with proper fast interfaces... but they're lacking in software support since open source means: "if you're not going to do it, nobody else will..." and this is why Pi is so popular, because it has to software support and the community.
Pick your poison.
this is just stupid XD
sometimes manufacturers just want money XD
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Incredibly stupid product. The case is way bigger than it would need to be and then everything is actually connected via that adapter on the outside of the case...
So many wasted space
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You made a writing mistake in the beginning of the description! you wrote "msata sad"
freaky2xd thanks I'll fix it asap.
freaky2xd but the msata support is 'sad'...
Da Hai Zhu nice one ^^