Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2024
- Raspberry Pi 3 Model B+ review and demo, including processor speed and thermal performance tests compared to the previous Raspberry Pi 3.
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"It's not in an anti-static bag - that's a bit of a shock!" no pun intended? lol
Paul Feakins thats electric
a tip : you can watch movies on flixzone. Been using it for watching loads of movies during the lockdown.
@Maison Cayson Definitely, have been using Flixzone for years myself :)
Very nice vid Mr. Barnatt! I really enjoy each and every one of your vids. You are my favorite because you put humor in your vids which really makes my day. Thank you very much :)
My birthday today + New EC video about the Pi = Pretty good start for the day.
Happy Birthday! :)
Ah something to watch on my lazy sunday! Thanks!
Thanks for the comparison, it's not one giant leap for raspberry kind, more shuffle in the right direction
USB 3 and Gigabit is not a deal-breaker for me; doubt it is for the vast majority of users. Kudos on the heat tests, thank you! A much bigger concern for the average user.
I've been using my Pi 3 B+ since I got it the day after launch day and despite the small step up I'm really pleased with it. Add an USB SSD drive and change the boot from SD card to SSD and it's a very usable desktop computer for general purpose work.
Because of your reviews and a lack of technological progress with the Raspberry platform I just bought an ODROID-XU4. In your comparison review you contributed the performance differences with a less developed OS. The OS is much easier to modify and will develop rapidly due to the open source concept. I therefore bought the much more powerful ODROID-XU4. Thank you and keep the content flowing!
Enjoy your ODROID-XU4 -- certainly a very good SBC for anybody with the skill and time to tinker. And I will have another ODROID video in two weeks . . .
Thanks for this particular review. Your review is ‘spot on’ and I agree with you. Although it isn’t the Raspberry Pi 4 I wish for, I must say it is a step in the right direction. I look forward to any other videos on this SBC. The odds are pretty high that I may add it to my Pi collection. Thank you.
Perry, what would you wish for a Pi 4? In my opinion it only lacks USB3 and internal flash drive. From the OS perspective, I'd like a version of debian inmune to poweroffs. In that way, any arduino project could be improved by these boards.
I think the Pi 4 should have 2 GB memory, true 4K video and two of the four USB ports 3.0. Plus the improvements in the Pi 3B+. That would be the minimum. I would like it to have the specifications of the Rock 64 but with an added USB 3 port.
yes, true 4k is a must these days. Maybe we have luck next year with the new version!
Raul Rojas I am actually surprised that the Pi 3B was upgraded. I wasn’t expecting Pi upgrades anytime soon. I’d love to see a Pi 4 in a years time but I won’t hold my breath. I might just invest in a Pi3B+ just to support the Pi movement.
And with that, my dreams of entering narnia have been shattered... Guess i'm just going to have to occupy myself by tinkering around with the new pi3b+!
uroborous01 i
I was in the future and zapped right back here to tell you that you were reviewing Raspberry Pi 4 =)
"it's not in a anti-stacking bag, that's abit of a shock" .. thanks for making me choke on a chip lol
rickster4k yes so dry....... Even that causes static😏
Mine came from pihut only in an anti-static bag, and a generic box
Top tip
Don't eat chips... especially when they're silicon ones! 😉
Adafruit is selling them in the box without a bag.
I always enjoy your review's, thanks again.
Thank you for doing this video I know many of us have been pestering you for it , I know the gains they have made won't light the world on fire but they have managed to do all that at the same price .
Thanks for the review, Chris, glad Stanley the Knife made an appearance :) The feature I'm hoping for in the Pi 4 is 2 Gb of DD3 memory instead of the 1 Gb of DDR2.
Very good point. 2GB on a Pi 4 -- or 4GB! -- would be really nice, and would open up new areas of application.
A 4GB Pi, I would love to see it. Please keep Stanley, Mr. Scissors and the rest of the gang in the loop...the references are funny and are part of what makes your channel special.
I was waiting to see a video from you on this with regards to thermal performance vs the standard Pi 3, thanks for the info and that is an impressive improvement.
By the way was "It's not in a anti-static bag, that's a bit of a shock" an intended pun? :)
It actually wasn't an intended pun! My subconscious was clearly in gear when I shot this!
Thanks for the review.
They finally got a Metal Cap on the CPU like the Tinker Board.
Rpi 3 B+ brings us exceptionally superior quad 8-finger-crossing as well! I cannot do that yet.
Very good comments on the B+, let's hope they can adopt some of the higher performance of the Asus Tinker board before the Tinker board gets more traction in the hobby area, The Asus Tinker board did not workout so well with my attempt to get it to work with DireWolf as a TNC for APRS. However, I did turn it into a nice desktop PC for web, email, PCB design, and many other things that work around USB ports and Linux. One thing that the Tinker board excelled at that did work for me, was when I connect a SSD drive to it, and it just took off. I opened a mkv rip of a Blueray movie and the output to my 32" Samsung HDTV was blue ray quality, I was blown away by the great detail and sharpness of the image. It was the only thing I did that got the processor a bit hot to the touch. So I got a small 12v muffin fan and ran it with 5v, and stuck it on top. The small fan in the case I had would never keep that thing as cool as I would like it. The Tinker board audio control needs some work. I can get audio to my HDTV through HDMI, but not reliably to the self powered speaker connected to a 3.5mm jack on the Tinker board. I got the audio out of the 3.5mm jack once, and it was not so good, but then it stopped and I could not get it back again. The Tinker board needs more work, and their support is terrible. It's not that they are not responsive, and polite, it is that they are either idiots, or they don't understand English. It took me 5 or 6 return emails to get them to break down the 3.5mm jack to tell me what is one each ring. It was simple enough, but it is taking way to long for that, so I am afraid to ask them a really complicated question about GPIO control, which is required for DireWolf control of PTT on the radio it controls. I never got the audio to work, so I skipped going into anything more complicated.
No static bag, shocking! Right!
A D Tiddyboom-tish!
agreed, they should be in the antistat bag.
A D I know
Absolutely electrifying(!)
Better shape up! - l've got chills and they are multiplying.
Very tempted to buy one but im sticking with the Pi3 until Pi4 comes out, I mainly use it as a Kodi machine so it does well enough right now.
Good work! I enjoy the puns!
Thank You very much sir for your videos on raspberry pie. I also think that there's something genuinely charismatic in the way you speak, act etc.
Thanks.
Love the video Chris, always a pleasure to watch, i totally agree with the desires for specs at the end
Finally I was waiting for this review! :)
Same
Hello Mr Barnatt, I have the latest version of Raspbian running on my 3b+ with a fan and heat sink and while running RUclips at 1080HD it maintains 34C in a room with ambient temperature of 24C. I am thrilled with the performance and cannot wait to see the new hats coming for the board.
This sounds like an excellent cooling setup. Wonderful! :)
Now we can de-lid our Pis and replace the TIM with liquid metal!
yeah someone already did that
EDIT: its here: ruclips.net/video/4LtL9e7JqxE/видео.html
1024: That video was terrible to watch... The dude ripped a CAP off of the CPU PCB and didn't even notice.. I've delided a few CPU's and liquid metaled my GPU's.. But on this Pi, hell no man..
Another great video! Thanks yet again Chris! My kids have been running the new Pi 3B+ for a couple of weeks now and the improvements make the experience much better for them, specifically Scratch and Reading Eggs online. Like you I think it's time for USB3 and gigabit Ethernet. While I admire the ideal of a US$35 SBC I do think there is now a whole new place in the market for a new Pi at a higher price in parallel to the current Pi line, with at least 2GB RAM as well as a true 64 bit OS. We have the Pi Zero in parallel so it's not a new concept to have several models in parallel. Let's hope ....
Great video as all ways, 3b+ all ready configured to boot from usb.
I love this channel so many single board computer's.
Thanks! Next Sunday I am uploading a video that features 19 SBCs in one shot! :)
I ORDERED ONE THIS MORNING AND IT’S COMING ON MONDAY AND IM SO EXCITED I’VE JUST BEEN WATCHING VIDEOS ABOUT THE RASPBERRY PI ALL DAYYYYYYYYYYYY
HONESTLY I’M GOING BONKERS LIKE YONKERS FOR THIS THING
It sounds like you are doing to enjoy your new Pi! :) It will change you view of computing.
As an engineer I receive leads, plugs, sockets and all sorts of passive components in anti-static bags. It's comforting if nothing else. It's a no brainer. I hate seeing the Raspberry Pi arrive naked in a box. That was a poor decision by someone..
Thanks for the review including straightforward tests. I don't mind the shortcomings, since nothing I'm doing gets close to those performance edges. I am, though, very pleased that the RF box has come to fruition. It frees up some board real estate as well as eliminating a bunch of certification red tape.
Wow, it looks awesome in full screen!
@ 1:14 "it's not in an anti-static bag, that's a bit of a shock isn't it?" Hahaha
Excelent review and tests as allways. Thanks!
What is really needed, Chris, is DDR3 memory, even if it's only 1Gb. It was an opportunity missed, i think. Great review though, Chris...thanks!
Great Review. Thanks Chris, I was waiting to see your take on the RbPi 3B+. Can't wait to see the videos where you will test the 3B+ with some heath sinks. I bought mine last week... they charged me a little more than 40€ but I wanted to test the new ethernet port.
Great review. Thank you for taking the time to make this video.
OMG how did you do that 8 finger crossing?
I guess, that will bring the rpi4 in 2019 :)))
Again, a great video as usual.
All the best Chris!
Something that I have just realised about all the Raspberry modals is that they lack the standardised UART debug header (three pin serial interface).
I have recently been using Banana and Orange SBCs and their inclusion of a UART header has been essential for configuration purposes.
Great video Chris, always enjoy watching. :)
Yet another fantastic Raspberry Pi video. I really do like the way you test these SBCs what with the bench-marking and comparison tests. I was really impressed by the thermal performance of the RPi 3B+ and I totally agree with you that I would love to see a Raspberry Pi 4 sporting true gigabyte Ethernet and USB 3, plus an upgrade to the RAM. Perhaps 2Gb?
Great video! I know this is a lot off topic from single-board computers. It would be interesting to see a 'very simplified' explanation of Big O complexity and what its significance is in computers.
I will look into this then!
11:51 "it never throttled" Once the CPU reached 70 degrees, it did reduce the clock speed from 1.4 GHz (self-overclock) to 1.2 GHz (stock). Add vcgencmd measure_clock_arm to the bash script to see this adjustment in action.
I think I made it clear in the video that the CPU cuts back (mid throttles I guess) at 70, but (fully) throttles at about 80. :) I have posted a cooling video that looks at this in depth and Pi very cool.
Great review. I've just ordered one of these to replace my old 1st gen B+ which was struggling with MAME emulation.
You will see a big difference in performance!
Along with the 2 improvements you mentioned, I think a SATA interface would be very nice too but that's about it. As usual great video!
It is a good “facelift” for model 3B, thermal management etc. but I think we are getting near to the moment we need a bit bigger upgrade. Keeping lower spec memory isn’t that bad currently in still rising memory prices but second gig of memory would be good addition.
Facelift is a nice term for what they have done! :)
randy s the question is does Broadcom has a good ARM SoC with better GPU, USB 3.0 and quality kernel drivers working with DDR3 and is willing to share it with community?
WUT. THAT IS A MIG IMPROVEMENT. Can't wait for model B++ or A++ or C++ or the raspberry pi 4 model B+
Great review 👍👍, greetings from 🇫🇷
4:52 hopes of entering Narnia dashed 😔 If on offer I wouldn't have to think twice
Nice wallpaper of Marina Bay Singapore!
Indeed -- it comes as standard with Raspbian now. :)
Was hoping the + would be a credible omv box. Maybe the Pi4. Usb3, more ram, real gig lan, durable memory, all point to a complete redesign. Real open source would be nice to. Wonder how much they can cram in for 35 clams :) There's a lot of other boards but the community and support makes me kind of whish success for the pi.
Well balanced and informative
I’m puzzled with Raspberry Pi power supplies. I opted for a 5v 3A because I wanted that extra .5a though I’d rather have an official one the maximum they seem to offer is 2.5A. I’ve learned the hard way that some of the cables on sale just don’t deliver the power needed to the board specially the ones with a switch on eBay.
I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for all these amazing tutorial videos you do. Greetings from Gibraltar 🇬🇮 🇬🇧
"oooh oooh it opens that way! Excitement!" - so British
A great overview and review, thank you.
Hey. Great video. I love your SBC stuff.
How about a test with heatsinks on both so that we can see the raw performance, minus the effects of throttling and see if the extra clock speed equates to faster completion, or if there are other factors?
Also, you could add a couple of lines to your script and it'll print out how long it takes by itself without needing a stop watch. :)
I indeed intend to do some active and passive cooling tests. On the script, for the puposes of a video an onscreen clock I think is preferable. :)
Thanks for the review. Hope to get one this year
Another excellent and well put together review. Thanks.
I really hope you do a heatsink’ed comparison video in the near future. :-)
I will, I will ! :)
Awesome, thanks for the benchmarks too!!! :D
My weekly reward
Pi 4 needs...
USB3
1Gb Ethernet
8 Core CPU with heatsink
802.11 AC wifi with a connector for an external antenna
4K HDMI video out with H.264 and H.265 decoding
It might cost $10 or $20 more but people will pay for it, just keep the 3B+ in the range
Anything else ???
You can't power all of this using 2.5A 5V power supply
No wifi antenna or 8 cpu cores needed. Indeed usb 3.0 and GB DDR3 RAM are necessities. If you ask me, I would pay double the price of raspberry pi 3, regarding its amazing support and possibilities over other SBCs, so scaling the price up a bit for some highly desired features shouldn't be a big problem.
All this would be nice, but you can get alternative products for that. And I like my Pi costing 35€.
If you need an external antenna, the board has the pads, just solder in your connector and take the 0 ohm link out.
Michi Lo. Well I would buy an usb wifi adaptor with an antenna.
Defeats the object of a cheap single board.
Huge fan of the channel. I am working on a project to repurpose an old laptop shell to make my own RaspberryPi laptop. To get more "horsepower" I was considering using two RPi's in a cluster configuration. I have only seen people benchmark clusters by factoring prime numbers. I would like to see benchmark tests in real world desktop applications like you do when comparing SBC's. I would love it if you could make a video using a dual RPi cluster computer and run your benchmark tests to see if the gains are worth the trouble. What do you say? Thanks for the great channel!
Thanks for your positive feedback. Appreciated. Yes, I must cluster some Pis at some point! :)
Because the raspberry pi is absolutely bad at clustering since its network interface is only connected via usb2.0. Also good luck accelerating a desktop application with a cluster configuration!
Thanks for telling us about the Raspian update. I don't think I'm buying the B+ just yet. I will wait..
Please give Mr. Knife the same respect as Mr. Scissors.
I recieved one with around 18000 games on a micro sd 128gb with all the different consoles including Dreamcast.I can't believe how powerful
It is indeed amazing what you can do with a Pi. That's a lot of games! :)
@@ExplainingComputers i did have to pay extra though. Its an arcade stick (double) with the sfv graphics and plugs straight into tv. I just use xbox joypads (plugs straight in)and easy to map buttons.
It cost me 200 au dollars more than the cpu itself, but well worth the extra bucks :-)
@@fang.clarkec7584 Sounds like you've got some serious retro gaming to attend to! :)
USB3 will be a great addition to the RasPi but I still love my old RasPi3B. It is the most cost effective general computing solution I have ever seen.
Yes, it is still very hard to beat a Raspberry Pi. :(
Very nice video, your videos are alway interesting and I love watching them.
Thanks. :)
Hey there. Great run down and comparison. Thank you so much!
Your explanation of the maker boards are very nice. I do however wonder what else can be done with these boards in a usable for common cunsumer market?
I am wishful too about getting a Pi 4, but I have a strong feeling (mostly by the pattern) that an upgraded/updated PI-Zero will be launched in 2019 and in 2020 we will get the Pi 4.
You may well be right.
Well done ! Some details on the POE interface via the HAT board may have helped, because POE seems to be another key feature with this B+
If you are comparing thermals on the Pi 3B+, perform all tests with stock heat spreader as well as after delidding the SoC. As of the delid tests, I would suggest direct heatsink on chip, Arctic Silver under the IHS and Liquid Metal under IHS tests.
Thanks for sharing, this video explained alot for me.
Hi Mister Barnatt, Nice concise review. Like you, I would have preferred a Pi4, a true gigabit ethernet a USB 3 or better and to be rid of that overly frail power connector. As for the later, it is a power connector, why not just use an industry standard barrel connector? I can understand that the former would require a lot of other changes behind the scenes but I think that the results would be well worth it. Besides what Pi enthusiast wants to wait until another year?
Thank you, Chris!
I imagine the next step is to modify your Rπ3 by overclocking it and adding a large chunk of aluminum to see if it can outperform the 3+.
BTW I've been looking into the software options for programming micro controllers via ARM Linux. I know the Arduino IDE is ported over, but I've been casually looking for more advanced options. I've been learning STM8Flash on Ubuntu. I don't know if that or other options port over onto ARM Linux distros. I would like to see someone do an overview of different programming toolchains specifically for Linux and ARM Linux. The Arduino IDE is nice, but I think the future of any hobbyist IDE is centered around access to a basic debugging interface. I think we are already past the point where 32bit ARM M0's are officially displacing 8bit MCU's. Ideally I'd like to see someone explain how to get started with cheap and simple 32bit programming on an SBC platform. I've been looking into the STM discovery boards but soon realized the ST toolchain requires Windows. I'm totally over using Microsoft, or any company's product when said company tries to force me to use their products instead of building something that motivates me to want to use their products. Hopefully companies like ST, Microchip, NXP, TI and others will start designing toolchains for ARM Linux. The question I've been trying to figure out is what are all of my options for programming microcontrollers on ARM Linux and is it worth building a Rπ into a comprehensive breadboard station capable of experimentation AND programming/debugging multiple MCU's all in one?
-Jake
I really enjoy your videos. Especially this one as I was considering getting the RPi3+ as the RPi3 that I have is too slow in performance for my tastes. So have you noticed any improvement in boot up times with the newer Raspian?
I will buy it today as I have ordered it I will get it hope Pi 4 is more faster with more good and better specification
Enjoy your Pi! :)
@@ExplainingComputers due to flooding in South Kerala of India I did not get it 😭can you help e in a way I have a 3b pi old one but USB ports are not working four of then what to do ??
Please reply
Yours sincerely
Anil.v
Olde-School cooling achieves 35 C with an ambient temperature of 67 F, at thermal equilibrium at an idle Raspian desktop, with a CPU heat sink and a metal case.
This does not make the CPU go faster; it makes it go slower (I suspect because of the current-draw).
This is achieved with rubber feet (for thermal isolation), a 1"x1" Peltier device (thermocouple) smacked on the top of the metal case with a fan, both running on a Pi USB port (5v).
Thermal equilibrium with just a heat sink in a closed case was 44 C.
Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load
Thu Dec 27 10:33:32 PST 2018
temp=44.0'C
88 seconds
temp=60.1'C
93 seconds
temp=62.8'C
93 seconds
temp=64.5'C
94 seconds
temp=66.1'C
93 seconds
temp=67.1'C
Run time = 461
Thu Dec 27 10:41:13 PST 2018
Add a Peltier device and heat sink and you get 39 C - 40 C
Add a fan and rubber feet and you get around 35 C.
The case will be ice cold drawing heat from ALL the circuitry.
Operating temperature (like right now) about 37 C
Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load
Thu Dec 27 11:56:23 PST 2018
temp=35.9'C
188 seconds
temp=44.0'C
188 seconds
temp=44.5'C
189 seconds
temp=45.1'C
188 seconds
temp=45.1'C
188 seconds
temp=45.6'C
Run time = 941
Thu Dec 27 12:12:04 PST 2018
So, extra cooling DOES NOT necessarily translate into faster CPU speed.
Another informative video Chris. Of course yours was not out on Pi Day, it did have your comparison benchmarks and insight on whether the 3B+ is worth getting for those of us with the 3B's. "sudo apt-get install explainingcomputers" never fails... ;)
Great channel, very thorough analysis. Got a new subscriber.
Thanks. Welcome aboard! :)
I hope also for a bootable SATA III connector and more RAM ... if there will be a v. 4.
I am not concerned about speed, but about low energy consumption. The Raspberry 3 with 5V/1A = 5W is just the kind of consumption which allows easily be powered by a cheap solar system.
Anyway, thanks to keep us updated on "ancient" hardware 😋
If I may suggest a minor update to your sketch. Add timing. Both a timer outside the for loop to calculate total run time, and also a timer inside the loop to time each iteration. That second timer might be able to show throttling as the iterations that are throttled should display a longer execution time.
The external Peltier cooling solutions works wonderfully IFF you power the Peltier device and its fan by an external power source (i.e. powered USB hub).
However, once you pull too much current, you must power down and restart the Pi to regain your CPU voltage and speed, otherwise it's .6 Ghz and 1.2 V.
I modified temp_test.sh to show what the temperatures are after the test (how does it cool down i.e. what are the thermal properties of the cooling solutions).
Here are the data:
Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load
Thu Dec 27 14:01:25 PST 2018
temp=36.5'C
80 seconds
temp=54.8'C
80 seconds
temp=59.1'C
85 seconds
temp=60.1'C
87 seconds
temp=59.6'C
88 seconds
temp=60.1'C
Run time = 420
Thu Dec 27 14:08:25 PST 2018
Testing CPU temperature idle
60 seconds elapsed
temp=45.6'C
120 seconds elapsed
temp=41.9'C
180 seconds elapsed
temp=40.2'C
240 seconds elapsed
temp=38.6'C
300 seconds elapsed
temp=37.0'C
360 seconds elapsed
temp=36.5'C
420 seconds elapsed
temp=36.5'C
480 seconds elapsed
temp=35.4'C
540 seconds elapsed
temp=35.4'C
600 seconds elapsed
temp=34.9'C
Here is the modified temp_test.sh
#! /bin/bash
clear
# This is a nice little for loop
echo "Testing CPU temperature and speed under a load"
echo
start=$(date +%s)
date
for f in {1..5}
do
loopstart=''
loopstart=$(date +%s)
vcgencmd measure_temp
# vcgencmd measure_clock arm
# vcgencmd measure_volts
sysbench --test=cpu \
--cpu-max-prime=20000 \
--num-threads=4 run > /dev/null
loopend=''
loopend=$(date +%s)
looptime=$((loopend-loopstart))
echo $looptime seconds
done
vcgencmd measure_temp
# vcgencmd measure_clock arm
# vcgencmd measure_volts
end=$(date +%s)
runtime=$((end-start))
echo "Run time = " $runtime
echo
date
echo
echo "Testing CPU temperature idle"
echo
for f in {1..10}
do
sleep 60
echo $((f * 60)) seconds elapsed
vcgencmd measure_temp
done
Hello Ec in 1080p! 😊
Great video! 👍🏻🎥
Again, I was enjoying it! 🎥❤️
With or without Narnia chip on Rpi 3 b+! 👍🏻😁
Although no USB 3 /Gigabit Ethernet it makes my Pi 3 obsolete. 😬
Fingers crossed for 8core, 4K HDMI as well! 🤞🏻
Bleach
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jose gonzales The odroid is also a good alternative. But when comparing the price to a old PC, I think you may have more for your money with the old pc option.
One thing I wish they would do is add Data lines to the Micro USB connector.
I use mine with a LapDock, and it'd be much better to be able to connect everything with just a couple of adapters instead of having to solder/dessolder stuff, make custom cables, etc, not to say you could easily have a very low-profile build (removing headers, connectors, etc) while still having USB available via that connector, and it would likely be more reliable in the long run than any wire-up job.
To give you an idea of the "headache" I went through for my current RasPi3 LapDock, I removed the corner dual-USB connector, installed a single-USB connector, installed a 2-pin header for the data lines of the now unused USB, dismantled a Male USB-A to Female Micro USB adapter to make my connections, using 2x 2-pin female headers (salvaged from PC "reset button" cables and such), one going to the GPIO for 5v and GND pins, and the other going to my "Data" pins on the USB.
This allows me to remove the adapter, so I could setup my Pi before a build in the future.
If the Pi's Micro USB had Data, I'd only need a Micro USB Extension cable to do the same thing!
I don't know why they have not thought of doing that yet!
Wow! That is some serious modding you have done. Cool!
Here's some pics of it. It's not pretty, but it works:
drive.google.com/open?id=1EK7piFgR5jFgKLMDoj6ACszkv8sJKkK_
I like mods like this! :)
id quite like to see some plex benchmarks for all of your boards (how many transcoded streams it could handle) maybe a future video???
Thanks..... great review I Think Im waiting for "hopefully" a 2019 Pi 4 before I upgrade
Very informative review.... concise, to the point. Love watching your videos. Do you know of a site that shows what people have done with their Pi's?
Although I agree the addition of USB 3.0 would be good you have to be very careful of platform fragmentation. The raspberry pi 's primary function is a a teaching too not a media device. It's only a happy coincidence that it is capable of doing this. Adding a new version too soon could add issues with the material that has already been generated. As we already seen, the Rpi 3 B+ needs a better power supply.. As the old saying goes, be careful of what you wish for.
There is a lot of truth in this -- the Pi still serves its market very well, and the backwards compatibility is a really big part of that.
A small comparison between all tested SBCs would be quite nice!
And this is on my list!
Please look at the PCB traces close to the Ethernet connector. In RPi 3B, there are 2 pairs of wire go to the connector. In the new RPi 3B+, there are 4 pairs of wire go to the connector. And I saw there are 10 output pins on this connector on RPi 3B+. For 10/100Base-T, 2 pairs of data lines is enough. For GigaBit ethernet, 4 pairs data lines are needed. As the connector and the PCB traces are already designed for GigaBit ethernet, how come it is still 100Base-T on RPi 3B+. Something must be wrong on it. In this market, some ethernet connectors are 10/100Base-T only. Is this new RPi 3B+ uses this 10/100Base-T connector? For both 3B and 3B+, the integrated Magnetics in the ethernet connector are used. In this industry, people called it ICM or MagJack. Nowadays, there is no problem to make such connector for GigaBit. I think RaspBerry guy should come out and explain what happened.
Hey there Chris! Great video. The comparison was needed and it's awesome to see the new specs at the old pricing too which is wonderful. But as you were saying, they will be left behind for the enthusiast crowd but as something entry level it seems its not lacking in versatility. Anyway I have sent you an email regarding my request to be on a podcast. I hope to hear from you soon. Brett.
The problem is that Broadcom is slowly discontinuing the VidoeCore-IV SoC, and changing to a different one would mean to break some compatibility. We will get an RPi 4 once Broadcom either upgrades its SoC or sells the technology to someone.
looking forward to your next battle raspi 3 b+ vs asus tinker board :)
0:00 Yay! Christopher finally gets in the crowd of *this!!!!*
1:05 intresting! New way to open, *Innovative!!!*
1:18 no anti-static! I'm shocked, why?!
4:56 😂😂😂😂😂 what?! *Magic gate to Narnia?!?!* Who would've thought that? I think you are the only one, perhaps?! XD lololololololololololol!!!
14:20 yes, we are disappointed.
FYI, the same older pi with a heatsink (but no fan):
temp=47.2'C
92.486
temp=72.0'C
92.440
temp=78.4'C
93.985
temp=81.1'C
100.896
temp=81.1'C
104.995
temp=81.7'C
total time = 484.802s
You can see some throttling after the 3rd pass. If the temps could be kept below 80, the older pi could probably do this in 462.5s.
Good info to have -- thanks for sharing here.
If you add: "TIMEFORMAT=%R" at the start of your script, and "time" in front of your sysbench calls, you'll get run times for each sysbench pass.