Steve Edgington does such a great job with these interviews. They are always so interesting and I appreciate the lack of any discernable POV in his questions. It's almost impossible to find these kinds of straight interviews in American media.
Perhaps the greatest strength is that the EU German speaking culture’s intellectual and artistic history is much greater than it’s tragic political history. It is better to derive a culture from actual cultural geniuses rather than politicians.
Fabulous. I noticed how Frau Hoyer graciously avoided repeating the word Weimar so as not to embarrass her host on his pronunciation. Exactly opposite to how John Humphrys used to work.
Great interview from both sides. I'm looking forward to reading Katja's book Blood and Iron. Her descriptions of German history are fascinating. (My German ancestors, the Schultzes and Beyers, immigrated to the USA in 1882, just before the Statue of Liberty was erected.)
Great interview by Steven as usual. I've followed him since he first started his RUclips channel in the 6th form and knew he'd do well in journalism. He was the rare young brexiteer who saw where the EU was heading and didn't want the UK following. His interviewing technique is spot on as he asks his questions and _let's them answer in full_ without interrupting. Piers Morgan could learn a thing or two from him 😅😂🤣
I’m questioning the wisdom of letting a Germany still suffering from WWII quilt to lead a union of European nations. Years ago I worked at a German company and I remember the facial expression of a colleague when I told him I thought the uniforms of German soldiers during WWII were much better designed and beautiful compared to those of the Americans. That poor guy almost succumbed to involuntary bowel movements. I didn’t put much weight on it back then but throughout the years since I came to realize that this is a nation which was traumatized by WWII and isn’t psychologically of sound mind. Don’t tell a German “My farmer grandfather told me the German soldiers came to the village took part of his produce and handsomely paid for it”. They seem to expect the whole world to speak in negative terms about the past of Germany. Sick and sad!
The European Project is, was and always will be a Franco-German hegemony - Germany being the more reluctant member of the dynamic duo - and it remains to be seen how the rest of its membership ultimately acquiesces to that fact.
I also think it totally weird to clap for health workers as a Brit. They are doing their job, just as I am doing mine. Not my fault the NHS needs major reform instead of more money thrown at the black hole that it is.
After listening to that it's not difficult to see why France and more particularly Germany have a serious problem with the idea of nationalism more generally.
Kenne ihren Podcast (glaube ich zumindest) und bin leider kein großer Befürworter ihrer historischen Interpretationen. Eine eher angelsächsische Sichtweise, welche scheinbar nicht über das Jahr 1815 hinausgeht, fast immer negativ und gefüllt eher gleichgültig, emotional sehr kühl, und beinahe herablassend. "Viele sind hartnäckig in Bezug auf den einmal eingeschlagenen Weg, wenige in Bezug auf das Ziel." Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900), dt. Philosoph ABER..mir gefällt ihre persönliche Meinung zum aktuellen Gemütszustand innerhalb Deutschlands ganz gut, das ist denke ich eine realistische Einschätzung. Dafür gibt es von mir den Louisen-Orden verliehen, auch wenn das wahrscheinlich nicht erwünscht ist. ^^
'Knowing their podcast (at least I think so) and sadly not a big proponent of their historical interpretations. A more Anglo-Saxon view that doesn't seem to go beyond 1815, almost always negative and filled with indifference, emotionally very cold, and almost condescending.' Makes more sense of the disingenuousness Ms Hoyer spoke about constitutional monarchy...!!!!!!
In 2014 it was agreed that 2% target had to be archived by 2025, not sooner and not later. Military budget 2021: $63.8 billion -> seems to me more than enough! ;) The EU although provides the NATO Headquarter, and Germany for example still has the largest US Air Base outside of the US "Ramstein", and the US Army "Medical Center" in Landstuhl, although the biggest outside of the US. Germany although pays 1/3 of the cost hosting the 35.000 US troops stationed inside of Germany (outside of the NATO mandant) and they are not stationed because we want them stationed here. On top of that calculation comes the provision of Infrastructure and intelligence services, and other services and support. Most of it has nothing to do with the NATO mandant, but with national security interest of the US for example in the Middle East and North Africa.
So what? 2% GDP on defence is the AGREEMENT (the UK also has/had those other expenditures in ADDITION to our NATO spend). I’d be ashamed to be a German thinking that 2024 was an acceptable date to get to your contractual obligations of decades ago. Funny, in a different sphere it’s the same Germans who thump the table and remind all other members it is a “rules based “ organisation.
Helicopters that fall out of the sky and chancellors who have to cut their international trips short because two of the three Luftwaffe aircraft that are taking the entourage overseas have problems because of a refusal to budget enough for maintenance. Broomsticks masquerading as machine guns, a U-boat fleet down to one submarine, an army reduced in size to an effectively useless police force which pays more attention to integrating women into what is increasingly becoming a social serivces organization than it's ability to fight. I think there's a lot more to the situation than your analysis.
With the past and current Chancellor former Communists Russia needent worry. The Nord stream gas pipeline will go ahead and former Soviet now current EU countries will be starved of gas. Which incidently is at risk in green policies but Germany DEMANDS for it to be deemed green. A very confused EU.
Under Merkal there's been relative stability ?! What kind of stability are we talking about? Not outright war? So mass migration and terrorism , I'll leave it there.
"Or is it a doomed society?" A destabilising Force..." The Telegraph What the heck, a Brit should not talk about destabilising the West, after providing the biggest blow for European security, prosperity and undermining decades of peaceful cooperation. BREXIT = "British-Sonderweg"
How? The UK still has the second biggest defence spending in NATO and with bilateral agreement with Italy Germany France and a list of other bilateral cooperation Including the Tempest program with Italy and Sweden Sent troops to Ukraine and army engineers nto support border operations on Poland
If a state would like to base itself on rule of law Germany is yet to fulfill those rules as minimum pay actual reparations. I atest that in my city not a single street, house or ruined factories have been rebuilt by Germans or Australians, not in 50s, not in 60s, not in 70s, not in 80s not in 90s not in the last 23years either. Instead of taking responsibility they have chosen to transform from some sense of guilt to self pity, just the same kind of sentiment that occured after first WW. I remind that at no point German people gave up the war where asked to. They had to be completely defeated. They have not bought the criminals to justice but harboured them for many years and they lived forever after in confort. This suppose to be the greatest model of society in EU? As soon as they get to rebuild the mimitary we will return to scenario from 30s. Nothing cathargic happened to this nation for anybody to believe they can be trusted, namely doing business with Russia behind the back of EU easter border states. Rock and roll and Elvis are not enough to mask the narcicisstic nature of this natio n.
Given that France was largely responsible for a unified Germany I'd say France is easily one of the worst things to happen to Europe. The entire continent would be better off without France.
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Katja really knows her history & explains it so well. Brilliant!
What a brilliant interview. Amazed how these "youngsters" develope such an in depth knowledge of their subject and put it over so well.
The future is not dire if this is the standard of conversation going forward.
Absolutely brilliant 👏
Excellent interviewer-and(in the interviewer's own words)a tour-de-force on the part of Katja.
An excellent discussion reflecting well on both participants.
Stunning and brilliant piece of work.
Steve Edgington does such a great job with these interviews. They are always so interesting and I appreciate the lack of any discernable POV in his questions. It's almost impossible to find these kinds of straight interviews in American media.
Perhaps the greatest strength is that the EU German speaking culture’s intellectual and artistic history is much greater than it’s tragic political history. It is better to derive a culture from actual cultural geniuses rather than politicians.
Quite.
An economic giant, and a political dwarf.....as they used to say.
Absolutely fascinating discussion.
such interesting interviews! Thanks Steven.
Fabulous. I noticed how Frau Hoyer graciously avoided repeating the word Weimar so as not to embarrass her host on his pronunciation. Exactly opposite to how John Humphrys used to work.
Great interview from both sides. I'm looking forward to reading Katja's book Blood and Iron. Her descriptions of German history are fascinating. (My German ancestors, the Schultzes and Beyers, immigrated to the USA in 1882, just before the Statue of Liberty was erected.)
Try reading 'Germany 1848-1914' by B Whitfield (Heinemann). Keep an open mind.
Great interview by Steven as usual. I've followed him since he first started his RUclips channel in the 6th form and knew he'd do well in journalism. He was the rare young brexiteer who saw where the EU was heading and didn't want the UK following.
His interviewing technique is spot on as he asks his questions and _let's them answer in full_ without interrupting. Piers Morgan could learn a thing or two from him 😅😂🤣
Journalism ????😂
Totally agreed, Steven has got a great interviewing technique.
Superb discussion..... I enjoyed that tremendously!
God Bless the German people.
yes Hoyer legend of the game
Kaja for chancellor! Great segment.
Alas not so.
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How come she never uses the phrase, Far Left, and that speaks volumes. Moving past, does not mean forgetting.
I’m questioning the wisdom of letting a Germany still suffering from WWII quilt to lead a union of European nations. Years ago I worked at a German company and I remember the facial expression of a colleague when I told him I thought the uniforms of German soldiers during WWII were much better designed and beautiful compared to those of the Americans. That poor guy almost succumbed to involuntary bowel movements. I didn’t put much weight on it back then but throughout the years since I came to realize that this is a nation which was traumatized by WWII and isn’t psychologically of sound mind. Don’t tell a German “My farmer grandfather told me the German soldiers came to the village took part of his produce and handsomely paid for it”. They seem to expect the whole world to speak in negative terms about the past of Germany. Sick and sad!
That's not war trauma, it's the result of intentional and targeted socialisation
Thanks
Excellent!
The European Project is, was and always will be a Franco-German hegemony - Germany being the more reluctant member of the dynamic duo - and it remains to be seen how the rest of its membership ultimately acquiesces to that fact.
Why hasn't Steven got his own show on GB News?
Cause no one cares what he thinks
a lot of ordinary people are out there too - not even neo hippies etc. Why don't people like to say that? Or don't they know?!
Great interviewer
I also think it totally weird to clap for health workers as a Brit. They are doing their job, just as I am doing mine. Not my fault the NHS needs major reform instead of more money thrown at the black hole that it is.
No Wall Street Crash, no WWII.
After listening to that it's not difficult to see why France and more particularly Germany have a serious problem with the idea of nationalism more generally.
Kenne ihren Podcast (glaube ich zumindest) und bin leider kein großer Befürworter ihrer historischen Interpretationen.
Eine eher angelsächsische Sichtweise, welche scheinbar nicht über das Jahr 1815 hinausgeht, fast immer negativ und gefüllt eher gleichgültig, emotional sehr kühl, und beinahe herablassend.
"Viele sind hartnäckig in Bezug auf den einmal eingeschlagenen Weg, wenige in Bezug auf das Ziel."
Friedrich Nietzsche (1844-1900), dt. Philosoph
ABER..mir gefällt ihre persönliche Meinung zum aktuellen Gemütszustand innerhalb Deutschlands ganz gut, das ist denke ich eine realistische Einschätzung.
Dafür gibt es von mir den Louisen-Orden verliehen, auch wenn das wahrscheinlich nicht erwünscht ist. ^^
'Knowing their podcast (at least I think so) and sadly not a big proponent of their historical interpretations.
A more Anglo-Saxon view that doesn't seem to go beyond 1815, almost always negative and filled with indifference, emotionally very cold, and almost condescending.' Makes more sense of the disingenuousness Ms Hoyer spoke about constitutional monarchy...!!!!!!
In 2014 it was agreed that 2% target had to be archived by 2025, not sooner and not later.
Military budget 2021: $63.8 billion -> seems to me more than enough! ;)
The EU although provides the NATO Headquarter, and Germany for example still has the largest US Air Base outside of the US "Ramstein", and the US Army "Medical Center" in Landstuhl, although the biggest outside of the US.
Germany although pays 1/3 of the cost hosting the 35.000 US troops stationed inside of Germany (outside of the NATO mandant) and they are not stationed because we want them stationed here.
On top of that calculation comes the provision of Infrastructure and intelligence services, and other services and support.
Most of it has nothing to do with the NATO mandant, but with national security interest of the US for example in the Middle East and North Africa.
So what? 2% GDP on defence is the AGREEMENT (the UK also has/had those other expenditures in ADDITION to our NATO spend). I’d be ashamed to be a German thinking that 2024 was an acceptable date to get to your contractual obligations of decades ago. Funny, in a different sphere it’s the same Germans who thump the table and remind all other members it is a “rules based “ organisation.
Helicopters that fall out of the sky and chancellors who have to cut their international trips short because two of the three Luftwaffe aircraft that are taking the entourage overseas have problems because of a refusal to budget enough for maintenance. Broomsticks masquerading as machine guns, a U-boat fleet down to one submarine, an army reduced in size to an effectively useless police force which pays more attention to integrating women into what is increasingly becoming a social serivces organization than it's ability to fight. I think there's a lot more to the situation than your analysis.
Good
With the past and current Chancellor former Communists Russia needent worry. The Nord stream gas pipeline will go ahead and former Soviet now current EU countries will be starved of gas. Which incidently is at risk in green policies but Germany DEMANDS for it to be deemed green. A very confused EU.
Bring back the Republic of Baden.
Merkel was weak. Good luck cleaning up that mess.
Excuse please?! A golden era - the time between 1924 - 1929?! Ouch!!!!
Under Merkal there's been relative stability ?! What kind of stability are we talking about? Not outright war? So mass migration and terrorism , I'll leave it there.
There are literally shrine in the center of Tokyo commemorating Japanese war criminals lol
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What a weird Titel
"Or is it a doomed society?" A destabilising Force..."
The Telegraph
What the heck, a Brit should not talk about destabilising the West, after providing the biggest blow for European security, prosperity and undermining decades of peaceful cooperation.
BREXIT = "British-Sonderweg"
How?
The UK still has the second biggest defence spending in NATO and with bilateral agreement with Italy Germany France and a list of other bilateral cooperation
Including the Tempest program with Italy and Sweden
Sent troops to Ukraine and army engineers nto support border operations on Poland
If a state would like to base itself on rule of law Germany is yet to fulfill those rules as minimum pay actual reparations. I atest that in my city not a single street, house or ruined factories have been rebuilt by Germans or Australians, not in 50s, not in 60s, not in 70s, not in 80s not in 90s not in the last 23years either. Instead of taking responsibility they have chosen to transform from some sense of guilt to self pity, just the same kind of sentiment that occured after first WW. I remind that at no point German people gave up the war where asked to. They had to be completely defeated. They have not bought the criminals to justice but harboured them for many years and they lived forever after in confort. This suppose to be the greatest model of society in EU? As soon as they get to rebuild the mimitary we will return to scenario from 30s. Nothing cathargic happened to this nation for anybody to believe they can be trusted, namely doing business with Russia behind the back of EU easter border states. Rock and roll and Elvis are not enough to mask the narcicisstic nature of this natio n.
Terrible analysis
I would never clap the NHS ......they arent even good, my experiences of them have been appalling
Germany becoming a single nation is easily one of the worst things to happen to Europe entire continent would be better off without a unified Germany.
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I love Germany so much that I preferred two
Thank La Belle France for that .It was chipping away at the HRE long ,long,long before Napoleon was a twinkle in his mother's eye.
"Germany? I don't know how I can find it..."
Schiller
Given that France was largely responsible for a unified Germany I'd say France is easily one of the worst things to happen to Europe. The entire continent would be better off without France.
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They were making a FKING SOAP OUT OF A FKING PEOPLE, guilt is at least they should have for fk sake....
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She never answer the questions
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