RetroTech: Play vinyl records with CD functionality - Sharp RP-117

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  • The most technologically advanced record players were made over 30 years ago. The example demonstrated here, the Sharp RP-117 from 1983, let you navigate records using features you would expect to find on a CD player.
    The demonstration part starts at 08:58
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    1. It cost $8000 for the budget model the last time they published the prices (they took the prices off their website a couple of years ago and made it POA). It also has to be imported from Japan and you pay the postage and the duty charges.
    2. It can't read coloured, clear or picture disc vinyl
    3. As it converts the analogue record to digital, dust is a big issue. Rather than a small crackle or a pop it's now a dropout in the audio.
    4. It has been out for years (decades) and yet still appears to be seen as a silly novelty by the HiFi press. That's worrying for a $8000+ product.
    7+TRACKS PER SIDE
    Most frequently repeated question:
    What do you do if there are more than 7 tracks on one side of an LP?
    The obvious and predictably boring answer:
    Press play & you can listen to your entire 15+ track vinyl record
    You can still also navigate directly to any of the first 7 tracks on either side, and play both sides without getting up to flip the record.
    If you were expecting it to blow up and set on fire...sorry for the disappointment.
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  • @LycanWitch
    @LycanWitch 7 лет назад +159

    I always found it weird how unlike Cassettes, CDs, etc.. when they came out with new technology for the players, it became a common feature that moment forward including eventually being adopted by the cheap budget brands (i.e. anti-skip on CD, program memory, etc) or with casettes, highspeed dubbing (if dual deck, etc).. However vinyl, they come out with the greatest record playing feature, the ability for the player to reconize and skip tracks, and it's only limited to a few models and completely disappears after a couple years and most record owners (especially ones who got into it during the 90s and after) are totally unaware it ever existed.

    • @cnsmooth
      @cnsmooth Год назад +5

      To be fair to "skip" forward a track on a standard record player, isnt really that hard a feat to do. Also a record player is a fairly straightforward simple device, the extra cost of making and purchasing this contraption wouldn't be worth it for most people.

    • @MrDuncl
      @MrDuncl Год назад +10

      The issue was that by the time this came out CD was the future and playing records just became something manufacturers half heartedly offered in order to keep the people who already had records happy. Look at the cheap, all plastic decks offered with 1990s systems to see what I mean.

    • @rossco7214
      @rossco7214 8 месяцев назад

      if im listening to vinyl im listening to the whole album, if not i just connect to the bluetooth function on my studio monitors. plus i cant deny myself dropping that tone arm down and hearing the lovely pops and crackles as it settles in to the grooves.

  • @salemcripple
    @salemcripple 7 лет назад +58

    have one of these, was my parent's when I was a kid in the 80's. I love the sound, and look of classic Hi-Fi so much

  • @LGR
    @LGR 7 лет назад +746

    Fascinating as always! Good point with the whole mid-range record player no longer being common. I see so many '80s machines in thrift stores with extraneous features, but can't remember the last time I saw a modern one with such doodads.

    • @hellogoato
      @hellogoato 7 лет назад +62

      The modern record player market is just a huge beginners trap. Most people will just fall into buying a cheap Crosley from Target and then proceed to spend 20, 30, or even 40 dollars on nice vinyl releases that are done no justice on such cheap built-in speakers. If they just ponied up a little of that money into their player budget, they can get a decent mid-end Audio Technica turntable or even find a decent used one on Craigslist. Heck, I see decent old turntables at thrift stores almost every time I go, cheaper and better than any Crosley you'll ever buy.

    • @Malvictis
      @Malvictis 7 лет назад +6

      Fuck right off.

    • @Nobody59300
      @Nobody59300 7 лет назад +43

      Do all tech youtubers watch each other?

    • @DannyJonesUK
      @DannyJonesUK 7 лет назад +11

      Only the good ones

    • @pauljs75
      @pauljs75 7 лет назад +18

      Seems like a good segment of consumer electronics completely disappeared after the "bad caps era" and around the time portable MP3 players were just getting established. It's as if they all forgot how to make good stuff closer to the budget range. So now it seems it's either super crap-tastic, or overpriced for what you do get.

  • @SailorLoonie
    @SailorLoonie Год назад +8

    This video was invaluable in helping me repair my own RP-117! I had to replace that second belt as well, but I'm so happy with the result. Thank you Techmoan!

  • @sirp0p0
    @sirp0p0 7 лет назад +54

    I'm always so happy when you have a problem but some guy somewhere makes that specific part. It's so satisfying.

  • @momatt
    @momatt 7 лет назад +49

    I love how you're a golden era hip hop fan. Can never get enough Eric B & Rakim.
    I remember being really impressed with the stack of awesome hip hop tapes you put in that multi-changer too.

  • @EffectOneProductions
    @EffectOneProductions 7 лет назад +58

    techmoan , you remind me of my dad who passed away many years ago. He was an electronics engineer and i used to run around his attick between old technology in the 80's . Tv's everywhere for repair and the good old free/pirate radio he used to have. Man those were the years. I just wanted to thank you for bringing back a piece of nostalgia in my life. good memories. I am happy i subscribed many months ago. Still watching , keep up the good work !

  • @margin606
    @margin606 5 лет назад +18

    Wonderful video! Must admit that I'd had my fill of vinyl (scratches, warping etc) by the time musicassettes came out, so I was happy to migrate to that new format. I have never had any nostalgia for vinyl, but it was great to see you bringing this machine back to life!

  • @JacGoudsmit
    @JacGoudsmit 7 лет назад +88

    10:35 It may be meant for stacking but it doesn't look too happy with the other equipment on top of it :-)

  • @DimentiaOfficial
    @DimentiaOfficial 7 лет назад +12

    Please never stop making these retro reviews. I've become quite fond of them.

  • @BasBoyRC
    @BasBoyRC 7 лет назад +59

    A bit concerned as it does not look that stack-able as the top is bowing.

    • @AttilaTheHun333333
      @AttilaTheHun333333 7 лет назад +2

      Basildon Trail Blazing Buddies
      It also looks like that without anything on it.

    • @BasBoyRC
      @BasBoyRC 7 лет назад

      That's not so bad that is just a plastic warp with age then.

    • @robinsonsmay
      @robinsonsmay 7 лет назад +11

      Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that issue

    • @YS_Production
      @YS_Production 7 лет назад +4

      Looks more bowed when on the shelf than in the previous shots.

    • @evilutionltd
      @evilutionltd 7 лет назад +8

      A lot more stackable than a normal top loading record player.

  • @mikeonfreeserve2926
    @mikeonfreeserve2926 4 года назад +58

    You just know that somewhere in the Sharp building a manager said 'it can't be done', only for some boffin engineer to prove it can. Props to the company for putting it into production!

    • @markm0000
      @markm0000 3 года назад +4

      The group of engineers that made this masterpiece knew it would be the best.

  • @Techmoan
    @Techmoan  7 лет назад +97

    FAQs are located in the video description text box. If you want to ask the number one most asked question about LPs with more than 7 tracks on one side...there's no need, the answer is already there.

    • @tempersne
      @tempersne 7 лет назад +2

      There is another option for a vinyl record player you may not have notice: www.kickstarter.com/projects/pinkdonut/rokblok-a-new-spin-on-vinyl

    • @TheRealSasquatch
      @TheRealSasquatch 7 лет назад

      does the manual list the tracking weights of the styli? i'd be worried esp. about the lower one damaging the vinyl...

    • @InfinityDIY
      @InfinityDIY 7 лет назад +10

      Techmoan if you give me an Adress i could send you an LP for free that thats not gema listed or anything else, it's from an rather unkown band from germany but the mastering and recording Qualität is pretty decent!
      If you are interested, just contact me and i'll ship it to you for free ;) would love to hear some devices in comparison, keep up the great work

    • @PlonkapplePrequel
      @PlonkapplePrequel 7 лет назад +1

      Techmoan What about the Custom Vinyls people make. You can have youtube audio library songs on a vinyl for just $60.

    • @PlonkapplePrequel
      @PlonkapplePrequel 7 лет назад +1

      ᏳᏫᏜᏡᎦᏈᏜᏫᏳ I guess cuz they look nice. You can still buy film soundtracks like starwars on vinyl. I think it's more of a collector thing.

  • @texas2cv
    @texas2cv 5 лет назад +6

    Blast from the past! I actually owned one of these and it was excellent to take back and forth to college (university) and stack with my Kenwood cassette player and then my Magnavox CD player (once I got one of those) :). I would like to add one thing (two actually). (1) - if you played a record with a great deal of bass and you had your volume too high on your amplifier, the reverberations would cause the record to vibrate, in accordance to whatever wavelength of sound was pummelling the case. This would ultimately end your listening experience and the unit would lift the arm off the record and you would be done. (2) @ everyone who commented about the "bend" in the case - this is how mine came out of the box and, despite it being annoying, was something I came to live with. I wonder where my turntable ended up. I may have to ask my younger brother ...

  • @spacefolder
    @spacefolder 5 лет назад +9

    What a lovely machine. And being able to stack it is so convenient! Glad you could bring it back to life. Cheers!

  • @GotthilftIMMER
    @GotthilftIMMER 2 года назад

    Bought in 1984, we still got these one in our guest bedroom. Works just perfect, although many children have played with it. First Set of belts. Don't forget to mention, this is a tangential turntable: A tangential tone arms needle is always exactly tangential to the groove. There is less distortion because the stylus scans at the same angle as the cutting tool that forms the groove when the record is made.

  • @TurboLazer007
    @TurboLazer007 5 лет назад +26

    My Lord I never knew these existed!! That's absolutely amazing and exactly what I need :) Fab video as always dear Sir,

  • @KhalidNaseem
    @KhalidNaseem 7 лет назад +1

    When I was a student, I bought an Optonica (posh version of Sharp ;-)) RP7100 turntable. That had two arms, one of which had the same sensor tech I suspect to the Sharp that you've demonstrated.
    Thanks for another entertaining review.

  • @nightw4tchman
    @nightw4tchman 7 лет назад +23

    1:29 Good to see you're still wearing the HP watch. ;)

  • @dansassenberg1438
    @dansassenberg1438 4 года назад +2

    Thanks to you I figured out I could fix the sensor on my old automatic turntable with just some compressed air! I've had it for years and just got it working right for the first time. Thanks!!!!

  •  7 лет назад +68

    I think that $10 cog would be my ultimate push in the direction to buy a 3D printer :D

    • @Crlarl
      @Crlarl 7 лет назад +2

      +Jessy Landry
      3dprintingindustry.com/news/now-can-print-metal-3d-printer-85255

    • @jelteklaswijnja4055
      @jelteklaswijnja4055 7 лет назад +16

      If you use a metal cog on a plastic rail, the rail will wear out a LOT faster than if you were to use a plastic cog. Also, plastic is self-lubricating, as opposed to metal. There's a reason why it's plastic in the first place, not only the cost.

    • @Crlarl
      @Crlarl 7 лет назад +2

      *****
      I don't think there are steel filaments for plastic FDM printers. You'd need a _real_ metal 3D printer for that.

    •  7 лет назад +1

      so let's see your logic. You would have to spend time (which is money ) to design the cog. Then you need the printer which how does a couple thousand dollars and equipment and materials justify making a shitty plastic cog? I could literally and have done so, manufactured hard to find parts like cogs with my bare hands, even that cog he had was still useable if he spent more time fixing it it was not broken into a million pieces.... That still takes time but you don't need to invest in a pile of garbage which will just break down / or run obsolete in time anyways. Terrible logic dude.

    •  7 лет назад +3

      a metal 3-d printer? You mean a milling machine?

  • @stclairstclair
    @stclairstclair 5 лет назад +2

    I'm was a GM auto technician for 20 years, I dont know how you have the energy to lead a normal life and still manage to do all this, I'm amazed at the huge amount of ground you have covered! Well Done!

  • @mclaine33
    @mclaine33 7 лет назад +34

    Wow now that's a really smart record player! Very cool especially for 1983-1984!

  • @wintrockg8265
    @wintrockg8265 7 лет назад +1

    Great video! I also have one of these, it's model RP-107 if I remember correct. Only difference I know is that 107 has a synchro button in it. My mother bought it new back in the 80's. It had same problems: broken belt and gear. I glued the gear back together with epoxy and it has lasted almost 4 years now, works great. But yeah, it is really nice to see that someone else is repairing these too, thanks for the video!

  • @silversurfergamer
    @silversurfergamer 7 лет назад +35

    you know what surprises me about Techmoan.. his taste in music.. Somehow doesn't seem the type for heavy rap. Must be a ghost from his youth from the 80s.. My ghost is ACDC and Motorhead and Judas priest from the late 70s :)

    • @beetooex
      @beetooex 7 лет назад +19

      Silver Surfer Gamer I'm waiting for the day when he takes us through his record collection. From what we've seen over the years I really want his recommendations. Weirdly I also seem to share his tastes in cars.

    • @BoyAditya
      @BoyAditya 7 лет назад +1

      Silver Surfer Gamer I'm surprised too, he got Eminem on his collection! and I'm even surprised Eminem release a vinyl LOL

  • @fiream773
    @fiream773 7 лет назад +1

    A friend of mine had one of these in the 80's. We used to stack two singles in it and set it to play sides A and B so we could hear both hits without having to open the drawer and switch the records. I do recall the styli collecting huge wads of dust and having to open the access covers on the sides to brush them off and restore function. Great video as always!

  • @BaconMinion
    @BaconMinion 7 лет назад +27

    That's a serious case of the 80s you have there ma'am at 0:17.

    • @lemonslice2233
      @lemonslice2233 7 лет назад +7

      She got that costume from The Institute! The Institute!!!!!!!

  • @filmdyret
    @filmdyret 6 лет назад +1

    Very interesting! You obviously know what you do when dismantling and putting together these devices👍🏻👍🏻I got an old Beocord 5000 from 74 with 3 heads still working and a TCD330 . Like music on vinyl !!

  • @yorickhunt3371
    @yorickhunt3371 7 лет назад +164

    9:06 Ouch! I hope you moved the 8-track & minidisc players off the top of it; there's a hell of a bend in the top of the turntable case!

    • @dalebills9470
      @dalebills9470 5 лет назад +20

      Before I seen your comment I was looking at the same thing and started scrolling to specifically find a comment like this and found it. We are observational..

    • @CT-vm4gf
      @CT-vm4gf 5 лет назад +20

      Not observational enough or you would have observed that the bend is there BEFORE anything is placed on top.

    • @PAULLONDEN
      @PAULLONDEN 5 лет назад +8

      *@chris toey* ......Yeah at 1:28.....not as pronounced though with the 8-track & minidisc players on top....which still was far from "a hell of a bend" that wouldn't prevent me from using the stack place.....it might be advisable to put a firm plastic or iron plate on top to prevent it from becoming "a hell of a bend".....
      Anyway...it stood there for "demonstration purposes" as Techmoan stated......

    • @kolinevans9127
      @kolinevans9127 5 лет назад

      chris toey plot twist !

    • @thesmiffable
      @thesmiffable 4 года назад

      @@CT-vm4gf hero

  • @TheHoss4145
    @TheHoss4145 7 лет назад +1

    My dad had one of those upstanding Sharp turntables that you showed in the beginning. He had the ghetto-blaster version with tuner, tape and speakers. I loved that thing as kid. Remember you could crank up the volume for each channel individually.

  • @Mario-yk7ej
    @Mario-yk7ej 4 года назад +6

    This is an amazing and fascinating piece of engineering. Though, I wonder if anyone had ever asked for the so called "program" feature to play tracks in a dedicated order. When CD players came up, it seemed to be a plain demonstration of what could be achieved with this new medium. And it actually was fun to use two or three times assure oneself of extra control. But I never saw a point in consequently programming my favourite play order for each medium I had just inserted. Since play time was limited by the medium, I was either willing to listen to all tracks or I copied the desired ones to another medium.
    Nevertheless, the "shuffle" feature was a useful innovation and has for good reason survived in nowadays MP3 players.
    I suppose hardly anyone missed this "program" feature when it had almost disappeared by the end of the 1990s. Therfore, Sharp's well engineered "computerized turntable" reminds me of a cartoon I also came across in the 1980s: Sure they do have the Know-How. But do they also have the Know-Why?

  • @erwingvargas2272
    @erwingvargas2272 5 лет назад +1

    That was awesome, now that vinyl it's back, I wonder if they have a modern version of this machine

  • @ds99
    @ds99 4 года назад +4

    I’ve never seen anything like that. It’s quite an amazing record player. I have a huge record collection from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. It was the biggest thrill of the CD player to skip directly to a track. Never knew it existed for records.

  • @larrylarry1
    @larrylarry1 4 года назад +2

    I had a more basic version. It looked like a standard player but was linear tracking one side at a time. The tone tone arm would sweep one side then play tracks in any order. You have to manually flip the record to play the other side. It was basically a CD player type player for vinyl, one side at a time. Great info in your video!

  • @Sheepy007
    @Sheepy007 7 лет назад +428

    How come modern Turntables are so freaking expensive when they are basically nothing more than a disc, an arm and a motor?

    • @Pauldjreadman
      @Pauldjreadman 7 лет назад +80

      Sheepy007 like a lot of the vinyl at the moment, over inflated prices. In some cases like direct drives they are worth the price and better quality parts

    • @Liam3072
      @Liam3072 7 лет назад +147

      Mass-production has stopped, so, economy of scale has been lost. It's become kind of a craftsman work again (that's a bit of an understatement but you get the idea).

    • @VinylRescue
      @VinylRescue 7 лет назад +29

      Turntables with less bells and whistles are of higher quality giving you better sound quality. More tricks on a turntable only degrade the overall quality. Those manufacturers use higher quality materials that pay off in the end. But, not everyone can afford the better high end turntables like me! I've just had to modify mine to a higher standard to please my ears.

    • @mescko
      @mescko 7 лет назад +35

      A really good turntable has *never* been inexpensive. As technology of record payback improved, the market widened considerably, creating more gap between the extremes. If you were to study the actual mechanics and the effects of physical influences on the process of playback, anyone of reasonable intelligence could readily see the advantages of higher-quality construction (diminishing returns principles notwithstanding). A really good vinyl playback system would simply stun most people at it's sound.

    • @jeffmassey4860
      @jeffmassey4860 6 лет назад +35

      People with lots of money want things that cost lots of money. We,the common-sense citizen,want long lasting quality at a price that doesn't fund small countries.

  • @willyappel7722
    @willyappel7722 3 года назад +1

    There never has been any cd functionality to play a track from the other side. So this record player has even more functionality than a cd player. Wish i had one back then. Great video. Love the way you can fix it.

  • @Jingleboy14
    @Jingleboy14 7 лет назад +3

    Love the restoration parts in your videos, so nice to watch.

  • @allglorytogod12
    @allglorytogod12 3 года назад +1

    I had one of these. The seek function was useless on some records if the gap between songs was to small. One thing I loved was the ability to place it anywhere in my "stack" of components and not having to place it on top of everything else.

  • @Helderhugo
    @Helderhugo 7 лет назад +92

    The weight of your 8 track are bending the top of the Sharp turntable!

    • @therandomthink
      @therandomthink 6 лет назад

      Yeah, that's only a thin sheet there. I used to sit a Realistic 10-band Graphic EQ on top of mine.

  • @warriordrum
    @warriordrum 4 года назад +1

    I love the repair sections more than the functional descriptions....but both are full of geek joy, especially if you remember this wonderful period of audio tech.

  • @CandyAppleBlue
    @CandyAppleBlue 6 лет назад +3

    That was great! Thanks for the information! Your channel has got me hooked! So informative, educational and sometimes amusing! Bravo Techmoan!

  • @BrBill
    @BrBill 6 лет назад +1

    A contemporary of my still-working Technics SL-5 linear tracking turntable, which has been a beast since I bought it in 1983, largely due to its direct drive. It's amazing that it still works so well 33 years on.

  • @julien2983
    @julien2983 7 лет назад +4

    Was not expecting Eric B and Rakim! All around awesome video

  • @forestsoceansmusic
    @forestsoceansmusic 4 года назад +1

    I had one of these! In 1984-85, a mate talked me into accompanying him to a Hi Fi expo. They had a door prize and my mate won it, which was quite a lot of good hi fi gear. He kept the high end stuff and sold me this turntable, WITH its matching cassette deck, and its matching amp and speakers for a pretty low price. It worked pretty good (remember, mine was brand new), but not so good for albums with more than 7 tracks per side, or those albums with even a slight bit of music segueing (connecting) one track to another (Sgt. Pepper's for example). Also not so good for being able to lift the needle off and move it easily and quickly around within a track for: 1. working out how to play bits of the track on your instrument (guitar, piano, bass, etc); and 2. making a cassette recording of only parts of the track. Still, I kept it until it started playing up which was after about 10-15 years (so we're talking mid-late 1990's) and couldn't find anyone game to repair it. And around that time (or just before) I got into CD players which give you total freedom for stopping, skipping, fast-forwarding & fast-reversing through tracks, and later with iTunes, able to record just parts of one track.

  • @gorfodemensagem4135
    @gorfodemensagem4135 7 лет назад +76

    You can also replace that cog with a Raspberry Pi

    •  7 лет назад +16

      or you could bake a real apple pie and have real vinyl as well without having to enter the matrix.

    • @VinchVolt
      @VinchVolt 7 лет назад +17

      But you have to replace the caps first.

    • @gorfodemensagem4135
      @gorfodemensagem4135 7 лет назад +5

      game4brains ' Probably the source of the problem was just bad caps.

    • @LaTortuePGM
      @LaTortuePGM 6 лет назад

      *FUCK YEAH NICHIJ-* _* c o u g h s *_ sorry

  • @camarykaren
    @camarykaren 6 лет назад +1

    Absolutley love this device. I love the repeat and playing both sides. I will love to have this right now with a better sound like my current lp player. Great vid. Thanks

  • @skatcat743
    @skatcat743 7 лет назад +337

    now find a cd player that acts like a vinyl.

    • @SMGJohn
      @SMGJohn 7 лет назад +30

      There is actually but its such a silly thing that my God, just why? Also they still have protective casing on them but transparent because lasers not good for your eyes at all

    • @stefankoopmans2200
      @stefankoopmans2200 7 лет назад +10

      Yeah it instead reads from the inside to the outside... but again, is there some device that plays cd's where you have to manually put the laser in position like a needle on a vinyl ? Somehow I like the idea though it is rather silly I agree ;)

    • @corncobjohnsonreal
      @corncobjohnsonreal 7 лет назад +5

      Chevy Monsenhor gee whiz it's a joke

    • @scottjacko87
      @scottjacko87 7 лет назад +6

      If you hold up a professionally pressed CD to the light correctly you can indeed see the tracks on a CD.

    • @BastetFurry
      @BastetFurry 7 лет назад +2

      And then there are special DJ CD Players where you can actually move the CD around by hand if you insist. No clue about actual brands, just saw one once.

  • @MattKrogmeier
    @MattKrogmeier 7 лет назад +1

    I have learned so much about defunct and alternative tech from your channel in the last couple weeks - and it all started when I searched for the RCA-TCR100 video deck. Thorough and informative - cheers!

  • @ynjlky7121
    @ynjlky7121 7 лет назад +12

    Sharp also created the gigantic VZ-V2, the vertical full-automatic turntable boombox.

  • @LexterminateFlamejob
    @LexterminateFlamejob 3 года назад +1

    Awesome! I'd lob my modern turntable for that one any day! Top review!!

  • @RadioKilla07
    @RadioKilla07 5 лет назад +3

    Sip the Juice, I Got Enough to Go Around / and the Thought Takes Place Uptown ~ RAKIM CLASSIC. Techmoan keep that record in good shape man. Thats Holy Grail classics

  • @SVHome
    @SVHome 5 лет назад +1

    I love these videos which are very informative and well done, mixing the technical with the practical and adding in great humor at the same time.
    On this one, I had one of these that I bought new as surplus and really liked it. As described here, its gear eventually broke and that was pre-Internet where looking online for a replacement wasn’t possible but fortunately I was a Journeyman prototype machinist so I simply made a new one from an aluminum blank that already had the proper teeth so it was a simple matter of putting the proper center hole in it. Since the mate rack gear was plastic, it was still very quiet when opening and closing. Now I have a Stanton STR8 digital turntable and have used it for the digitization of a series of 1943 78 rpm disks from South America which was then released onto CD and I’m thinking of a vinyl release too.

  • @StormcloudLive
    @StormcloudLive 7 лет назад +4

    Another amazing video, love the positive attitude and your genuine love of the electronics you're working with shines through in your videos. Subbed for more of this awesome content.

  • @Kochiha
    @Kochiha 4 года назад +2

    Well, I did it! I finally bought one of these, secondhand for AN AMOUNT OF MONEY. All it needs is a new belt, and thanks to this video I know more or less what it takes to change that, and what to look out for as I continue to use this thing! Thanks so much for introducing me to this wonderful piece!

  • @knoppenkearl
    @knoppenkearl 3 года назад +5

    Philips was one step further,they developed a record player with a laser instead of a needle.

    • @Chungustav
      @Chungustav 3 года назад

      Well at that point the sound is analog not digital correct?

    • @semuta2752
      @semuta2752 3 года назад

      Are you maybe thinking of ‘Finial Technology?’ Coming a few years after William Heine’s paper in 1977, ‘An Optical Turntable’ concept in 84 and working prototype in 86 blew minds.
      The massive problem aside from high cost in a newly present recession was that they were simply too accurate and had no mass to push dust from the track. This was a boon to those who cherished the idea of never degrading their vinyl, but it also meant no dust could be cleared naturally like a needle would be doing and it indiscriminately amplified any materials just like the intentionally recorded grooves. Wet wiping immediately prior to playing or a system that acted like a cleaning head was necessary for any enjoyable experience.
      After Finial failed and investors sold it to BSR, it eventually turned into ELP’s LT-1XA in 1997 for the meager price of ~$20,000. Though the price has thankfully dropped in modern times to a more modest price between $13,000 and $16,000 for the LT-Basic. I have no idea what the LT-Master goes for though

    • @autogolazzojr7950
      @autogolazzojr7950 3 года назад

      @@semuta2752 Pretty sure he's making a joke about CDs

  • @jotceka77
    @jotceka77 7 лет назад +1

    Hello Techmoan, I just wanted to tell you, this is one of the most interestic Channels, I've ever seen. The stuff that you're showing here is totally wicked.
    Please NEVER Stop, Enjoyinng it so much.

  • @nakedflames
    @nakedflames 7 лет назад +4

    great way to spend my afternoon

  • @TheMrMarkW
    @TheMrMarkW 6 лет назад +1

    My next door neighbour used to have this exact turntable. It worked perfectly, but occasionally it would start skipping. I would have to open the little side access doors once a year and clean the stylus and optical sensors - then it would work perfectly for a while. Apart from that it was brilliant.

  • @audiocrush
    @audiocrush 6 лет назад +7

    try superglue, that stuff actually welds the plastic kind of together.
    Epoxy resin just relies on adhesion, and since the cog is under tension it just flies apart again.

    • @deanwhiteside6339
      @deanwhiteside6339 6 лет назад +3

      audiocrush super glue repairs these fine i have repaired some myself with super glue and works perfect. as you say you shouldnt use epoxy on a item like that.

    • @westelaudio943
      @westelaudio943 5 лет назад

      Super glue + acetone applied on surfaces before gluing...

  • @Wilson84KS
    @Wilson84KS 7 лет назад +1

    This channel is just perfect, not only because you show this wonderful pieces of technology, creativity and just a lot of abilities, like physical understanding, that gets lost because now you just write a program into a microcontroller, but more because you open the things. Thank you a lot!

  • @DonDiesel885
    @DonDiesel885 7 лет назад +10

    really interesting, i was pumped for ya when you got it running!

  • @JamesJohnson-ok1hn
    @JamesJohnson-ok1hn 4 года назад +2

    i really love the pioneer 8 track recorder. my dad had one and i had a panasonic 8 track recorder. i still have the tapes but like a fool i let the machines go when i was younger so... this turntable was the one i had the hots for too. but here in the states it was not cheap so no way did i get one back then. its real nice to see a few have survived.

  • @drwisdom1
    @drwisdom1 5 лет назад +7

    This reminds me of run-flat tire technology. In an effort to solve minor problems, the end result is a product that introduces greater problems than it solves.

  • @adamweb
    @adamweb 4 года назад +2

    RUclips recommended this to me in 2020 so I'm a bit late here but this is an awesome video! I never knew these things existed, thank you!

    • @EpicKieran
      @EpicKieran 3 года назад +1

      Recommends it to me in 2021

  • @jetegtmeier71
    @jetegtmeier71 7 лет назад +5

    what an amazing unit it reminds me of the "linear tracking " turn tables :)

    • @jasonbehm3081
      @jasonbehm3081 7 лет назад +13

      jetegtmeier71 That's not surprising considering it is a linear tracking turntable.

  • @skay9443
    @skay9443 3 года назад +1

    Thanks for the trip down memory lane. We had one of these for years and the linear tracking was fantastic!

  • @therealjammit
    @therealjammit 7 лет назад +31

    That damn cog. I'd probably loose my mind after a few days and enlist my machinist friend to mill me a new one out of steel.
    And then replace all the caps...

  • @ThomasGrillo
    @ThomasGrillo 7 лет назад +2

    God! I miss those big, easy to see, and use buttons! Thanks for sharing this. That's an amazing turntable.

  • @pesiuber
    @pesiuber 7 лет назад +48

    Can you show us your vinyl collection?

    • @rustykoehler2789
      @rustykoehler2789 4 года назад +2

      Can you show us your vinyl collection.

    • @aerodynamicpunk
      @aerodynamicpunk 3 года назад

      Watch the video, 4 sets of records are shown!
      Random Access Memories is there 🤖

  • @Robertcowart
    @Robertcowart 6 лет назад +1

    I remember the two sided approach, with a tone arm (so to speak) first being used in the jukeboxes of the 60s and probably 70s as well. The only difference was it was only for 45 RPM records and the record was held vertically rather than horizontally. All the mechanics of the record selection (robotic arm fetching the disk), the disk being clamped to the motor, and then the tone arm bringing the needle and cartridege into contact with the vinyl were visable to those of us gathered around this miracle music-making machine. A bit like a pin-ball machine, half the fun of putting your quarter into the machine was watching it work through the transparent glass case! I had no idea that this Sharp double-sided LP player existed even though I sold hi-end audio at the time. Well, I didn’t know about this probably because I was selling ‘high-end’ stuff and this was cool but not high-end. What we need now is a gadget like this that will couple with Gracenote online music database (or other) to look up all the metadata on each track, convert the analog to uncompressed WAV files, output over USB to good software on a desktop computer, save on local hard drive or cloud-based drive. Voila! Instant archiving and use of all those vinyl LPs we don’t bother to dig out of the basement closets!

  • @viking_wolf
    @viking_wolf 5 лет назад +5

    Fantastic video. I certainly would love to add this player to my stereo setup.
    What happens if the record has more than 7 tracks per side?
    What are other models of the CD style record player?

  • @bubbamcgullicutty8966
    @bubbamcgullicutty8966 2 года назад +1

    Your videos are incredible. At the time this player came up i was in my early twenties, very interested in HiFi, even built a lot of speakers by my one. Anyhow, until today I had no idea that such a device ever existed. Thanks very much for the enlightenment !!

  • @fritzcolburn
    @fritzcolburn 7 лет назад +8

    We as creators need to get on RUclips/Google to back off their copyright gestapo campaign. Your use of copyrighted material here is well within the "fair use" protections of the DMCA.
    I'm very serious about this because their selective enforcement of other corporation's copyright is stifling users ability to continue producing quality product.
    I know several musicians. I'll see if we can put together some vinyl and CD products for you to use.

  • @jayvee2163
    @jayvee2163 4 года назад

    Nice demonstration! Thanks for showing it, Especially The Juice Soundtrack Record, I was shocked and wasnt expecting it! That was an awesome move!!!

  • @djelielcroce
    @djelielcroce 6 лет назад +3

    30 years and the Japanese already had a laser disc player for vinyl records. This proves two things: First - Japanese love vinyl records. Second - The Japanese are extremely intelligent.

  • @AudioFileZ
    @AudioFileZ 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I really see how this thing works and the repair was excellent as it addressed the likely culprits if you have this unit. Though from an audio quality standpoint a turntable like this isn't a true audiophile device it is an electronic tour de force in making a LP play more like a CD mechanically. I love the engineering brought to the market at a reasonable price making this a bit amazing that it exists at all.

  • @leopold7562
    @leopold7562 5 лет назад +3

    Damn it! You've made me want a front loading turntable. I've not wanted one of those for a quarter of a century.

  • @robertcartier5088
    @robertcartier5088 5 лет назад +1

    Thanks for this stroll down memory lane!
    Saw this machine in a store just before they were discontinued... I was obsessed with getting one!
    I never did, however, because someone convinced me that being able to play the underside was dependent on some spring-loaded mechanism that would surely end up damaging my records! Which was a serious consideration back then, as I was still convinced that my record collection would have to last for my lifetime... How cute! Now I carry more music in my phone than I had in my whole album collection at that time! Ok, maybe not THAT much... still have over 500 vinyls! I own a USB turntable now, to rip them all to MP3, but after all these years, I'm way too lazy for that monumental task! ;-)

  • @toku7319
    @toku7319 7 лет назад +11

    I feel your pain with disintegrating rubber. I have a stack of floppy disks and they were being held in a rubber band and when I went to get one the band fell apart and the floppy disks were all over the floor.

    • @elephystry
      @elephystry 6 лет назад +2

      awesomesauce296
      I had a rubber band around a tube of lip balm, and in a span of a few years, it gunked itself to the tube.

    • @orkhepaj
      @orkhepaj 6 лет назад

      maybe time to throw them out?

    • @fordtechchris
      @fordtechchris 6 лет назад

      gasp! what will you use for a coaster at the computer desk!? an america online! sample cd?! LMFAO

    • @jasonmurawski126
      @jasonmurawski126 6 лет назад +1

      Oh gosh, at least they were not hard drives with lots of important info

  • @sbbinahee
    @sbbinahee 7 лет назад +1

    As always very interesting man. I love the practical dialog approach with no bullshit. Nicely explaining everything for us non techies. Great voice and easy to listen to you. I love watching you fixing up old gear and always keeping the viewer fully engaged..THUMBS UP!

  • @IllPropaganda
    @IllPropaganda 7 лет назад +11

    "I do work with these, like Hercules" apt motto for you!

  • @MarcusTDM
    @MarcusTDM 7 лет назад

    Good review mate, enjoyed watching that. What a great machine.

  • @CoolDudeClem
    @CoolDudeClem 7 лет назад +4

    I'll take vinyl over CD any time, if it gets scratched it will still play, albeit with a pop or crackle, any CD can get to a state where is doesn't play at all. Trouble with those old plastic parts, such as that cog, is that they shrink over time, that's why it snapped.

    • @orkhepaj
      @orkhepaj 6 лет назад

      easier just to download

  • @levan1616
    @levan1616 7 лет назад +1

    One of the best channels out there. Great job!

  • @amacleod457
    @amacleod457 5 лет назад +4

    I just saw this demo, and it sounds like a really neat machine. I am totally blind, and have little experience dropping the needle as it were. I’ve worried about damaging records by trying to locate a track by repeatedly picking up and dropping the arm. This machine would have solved that problem for me.
    Excellent work as always. Although I missed this vid for three years, I’m generally listening to all your content.

  • @ryanandrade1225
    @ryanandrade1225 7 лет назад +1

    Love your videos. Since I can't afford them, I love to watch them in action.

  • @virustwin
    @virustwin 7 лет назад +4

    Brilliant video as usual mate. thanks for this!

  • @MrHal44
    @MrHal44 2 года назад +1

    Great video as I was looking to fix mine I had bought in Germany in the 80's. It was the cog gear but it was not until 2022 as you did saw it on Ebay. Long story short got the new belts and cog gear and it works great. Thanks for your video.

  • @Sadlander2
    @Sadlander2 7 лет назад +5

    I was born in 1979, so I grew up with CDs. I had no idea this existed and it makes me wonder: how come didn't this kind of turn tables become the standard, the norm? I remember, with cassettes, when the auto-reverse function came out, everybody adopted that function! How come didn't everyone buy this kind of turn tables? Was it too expensive? Or did people prefer the regular way of playing records, even though this offers "skip function" and you can program the tracks you want to listen to and then just press play and leave it alone....?

    • @brokenscart7989
      @brokenscart7989 7 лет назад +1

      Sumido S. probably cost and demand

    • @Sadlander2
      @Sadlander2 7 лет назад

      Indeed.

    • @Sadlander2
      @Sadlander2 7 лет назад

      I think you're right. I would have bought a CD player, too, instead of this in the early 80s. Nowadays, people are buying records because it's "old" and I guess because it's hip (I'm not talking about the few people who genuinely love records for the vinyl sound) but back then, CDs were new and modern, it was the new best thing (even though some people, even back then, were suspicious). Nowthat we have both, like you said, for convenience, there are digital formats.

    • @JohnDoe-qx3zs
      @JohnDoe-qx3zs 7 лет назад

      It seems a very fickle and failure prone design, and it can't do the specific vinyl tricks that became extremely popular at the same type. ("Scratching" etc. aka Rap and Hip-hop DJ-ing). Some players with motorized linear arm mechanisms vere rumored to damage your favorite records (don't remember the details, just remember being told not to buy those players). Besides, with a minimum of practice, old school record players can be moved to any position with basic hand-eye coordination.

    • @alexhaws2377
      @alexhaws2377 7 лет назад

      similar to cassette players - by the end of their time, they had some really cool features. I had a little portable panasonic with an OLED remote that the headphones plugged into, track skip, li-on battery, magnesium shell and it was really small - this was late 90s. I skipped CD and went to MD then as they'd become way better than anything else and MP3 players were still in their infancy.

  • @ttarst149
    @ttarst149 7 лет назад +1

    Love watching your reviews on all of the products that you obtain. Thanks for sharing with all of us. Take care.

  • @lain328
    @lain328 5 лет назад +3

    Honestly if I ever get into collecting vinyl, I would want a player like this.

  • @edifyguy
    @edifyguy 3 года назад +1

    I remember seeing this type of player promoted, and while I have never owned one, though I do own many players and records, I always thought this was a very cool idea. Thank you for sharing this! I always wanted to see one.

  • @JohnDoe-qx3zs
    @JohnDoe-qx3zs 7 лет назад +109

    I believe the Soviet Union published a lot of uncopyrighted vinyl before 1989, because they didn't believe in the capitalist copyright system. Most were classical music performed by state employed musicians and orchestras. Unless they were somehow retroactively copyrighted, it should be possible to find them used, as they were incredibly cheap in the tourist shops.

    • @Agoodguy77
      @Agoodguy77 6 лет назад +3

      I have some)

    • @randomstuff-cu4of
      @randomstuff-cu4of 6 лет назад +47

      Imagine techmoan blasting Soviet anthem over some record player he found

    • @michaelmartin9022
      @michaelmartin9022 5 лет назад +6

      By contrast I've seen pre / during WW2 Japanese music getting copyright striked all the time. Even the land of capitalism, America, lets you have 50's radio dramas for free.

    • @samkinison2375
      @samkinison2375 5 лет назад +4

      @sbcontt YT no shit Sherlock, because Communism IS a religion. To quote Jewish Rabbi Harry Waton
      "Judaism is Communism"

    • @samkinison2375
      @samkinison2375 5 лет назад +2

      @sbcontt YT "Islam says it was there" < Islam can't "say" jack shit!

  • @foldvary_laszlo
    @foldvary_laszlo 4 года назад +1

    retrotech is a fantastic initiative, I really like and appreciate this kind of entertaining.

  • @AsellusPrimus
    @AsellusPrimus 7 лет назад +6

    You know you've been watching this channel too much when you get disappointed by the lack of puppets.

  • @ColinsCity
    @ColinsCity 5 лет назад +1

    this is a really cool invention even today, being able to play side a and b without having to get up and physically change it is great especially with the newer vinyls that are 2 LPs and only have 2-3 tracks per side

  • @RALF0691
    @RALF0691 7 лет назад +7

    I always wondered why 2Pac wasn't on the Juice soundtrack.

    • @Savage-ih5il
      @Savage-ih5il 7 лет назад +5

      because he literally died at the end

  • @mikegross6107
    @mikegross6107 6 лет назад +1

    Very interesting and informative, never heard of this type of turntable before this!

  • @nestorgonzalez
    @nestorgonzalez 7 лет назад +4

    seriously awesome video of this great machine!

  • @Olltymer
    @Olltymer 7 лет назад +1

    This channel is simply amazing. Being a teenager in the 80's there is so much nostalgia AND loads of things I've never seen. Oh and production quality is awesome!