Great video, love seeing the unvarnished opinions with the different strengths that make each board suitable for different riders, their needs, and budget considerations. I'm eagerly awaiting the Enduro for my XR and all the new goodies that you excellent humans will be dreaming up for the GTs (can we get a Kush already please? OMG). In the meantime, I'll be waiting to ambush the poor UPS guy when they arrive with the TAC gear that I just ordered from you guys the other day. Float on!
@@staticboss4029 for some, sure. I cannot manage a remote for one, not reliably, as I have nerve damage in my dominant hand and other issues in my offhand. This means that I'm relegated to either an EUC or Onewheel and using my body movement for control over direction and speed.
I bought a Pint X in March 2022. At only 5-foot-7, with a men's size 8 shoe, I have so much more control on the Pint X than when I ride my XR. Super sharp turns, nimble dodging around potholes and big roots, and light weight with torque for crazy carves and unreal hill climbs. My XR is a relaxing cruiser best on long flat stretches of pavement where I don't need to react quickly and can open up the higher top speed. My Pint X is a rocket on dirt trails, uneven sidewalks, and up the steep hills of my town.
I would personally only recommend the Pint to either give to small children or to be used explicitly as a tool-- the doubling of range and slightly higher top of the Pint X makes the board feel more capable keeping up in the bike lane in busy cities and being used for transportation in general. The range anxiety on the original Pint is real and without the ability to upgrade the battery on the newer models very easily it's difficult to justify not saving up a few hundred more to splurge on something you won't feel the need to upgrade from in the first month or two! Another note is that the GT (aside from battery management system drama) is an absolute beast of a machine! I use it to commute and it gets me from central Brooklyn to the UWS in Manhattan and back with decent battery to spare! It is pretty heavy so it's a pain to carry around, but it seems to fit in the large lockers at most gyms I've been to and I have had no trouble putting a cheap bike lock around the handlebars while at work/ other semi-supervised places :) Getting into Onewheels is honestly about the most fun and refreshing decision I've made in my life and I can't wait to see how much it grows in the coming years!
I bought my first board about 2 months ago (Pint X) and absolutely love this thing! I had zero board experience or anything. I'm a very short and light rider (5'2'' 105 lbs) so its a perfect fit for me. I can go a bit faster and longer than the advertised speed and range without any problem. I use it for exploration and mostly commute to work since I live in a big city. Its super versatile. Even tried some small trails and I had the time of my life! After constantly hitting pushback I was already thinking about the GT but now that I've crashed twice in 3 days, I'm kinda happpy it was not at higher speed hahaha I think I'm gonna stick to it for a while! GT seems too big and heavy for me. Added Kush Nug Lo after a month and thinking about swapping for an Enduro tire if one for Pint X is available in the future :)
You know how every once in a while, restaurants will discontinue a fan-favorite, leaving everyone shaking their heads, and then bring it back years later? Calling it now, they’ll bring back a proportionally similar, updated board in a few years and call it the XR 2.0 or something, to everyone’s delight. They’d make a killing.
@@barnabasseadog7660 dude idk what you're talking about my XR is Beautiful, full wooden deck, wooden fender deletes, white carbon fibre fender, burgundy side rails done in automotive paint, the GT is ugly AF
I have Pint, XR and GT and agree with this vid. The Pint is great fun, very manoeuvrable and light. I don't use the XR as I find it less carvy and difficult to dismount. The GT really is good, feels much safer than the XR and has all that range. I was worried about the cost of the GT but am very happy with it and will try to sell the XR. GT feels much the safest and nearly as carvy as the Pint (but the Pint is still the most fun tbh).
I feel like if the Pint X gets some more aftermarket love (BANG Bumpers, Aftermarket rails, etc.), the thing could be a total beast. Hopefully we can get some more Pint X accessories from TFL soon! 🤙🏼
This makes me more likely to buy another board than any Onewheel advertisement, maybe because it actually mentioned negatives… unfortunately I already have all three 😆
Proud owner of a Pint here. About 1k miles, still on the stock tire, here's my 2 cents: - Reliability: Had to change a few parts, broken front sensor after about 700 miles, probably because I didn't notice some small rocks stuck in the grooves of my shoe and messed it up, but could just be wear, not sure. Maghande let itself go last week, broke in half as I was picking it up, easy fix. Overall I'd say it's really sturdy and can withstand pretty much anything you throw at it, but do yourself a favor and buy a float plate. And probably the charge plug, maybe it's not necessary but gives some peace of mind when it rains. - Maintenance: little to none required, just some clean up after rough weather or trails. - Cons: The pads are too small, both my heels and toes stick quite a bit out of the board on either side (size 43 EU, I think it's 9 US), and you don't have that much space to adjust. The front sensor is a bit "touchy" at times, sometimes when mounting it doesn't activate if you don't press your foot down enough (and precisely), so you jump up and the front just flops down very anti-climactically, and you look like a fool 😂. Battery lasts less than you'd expect, 8 miles run by really fast, but it just depends on your needs, for me is more than enough to go back and forth from work. -Pros: FUN. It's all that matters really. All the cons mean nothing once you mount and start carving around. The city literally transforms when you are on a Onewheel, it becomes your personal playground. I'm a very lazy person, but when I wake up and realize I'm about to mount my Pint I daresay I'm even happy to go to work. What board you buy isn't really changing that, it's like the difference between buying a Ferrari or a Mclaren, one maybe faster, better looking or more reliable than the other, but you are still on a very fast supercar, it's not like one would work and the other one wouldn't. As long as the board you choose is capable of bringing you where you need to go mileagewise, you're good to go. The looks people give you are hilarious. I live in Rome, and I may very well be the only one with a Onewheel in the whole city, I haven't seen another one in 2 years, and I'm ready to bet 99% of the people don't even know what a Onewheel is. The looks of shock/surprise/disbelief people throw at you never get old. (Cons to that is no group rides for me 😥) Just do yourself a favor and get one, any model will do.
I was about to buy a GT and learned about all the bug, ghosting etc.. The price is too high as well. And the fact that we have to send it back to FM in case of issue and the lack of 3rd party made me bought an EUC instead. So I am waiting for a GT fix and FM to loose a little bit on the right to repair + 3rd party. Once that fixed, I'd glably buy one. I will just rent one from time to time while waiting!
I can understand the reasons for the hate on FM, but no one makes anything in America anymore. I like the idea of supporting a guy who created a great PEV in California and instead of manufacturing it in China, started his own factory in his own home town, providing great jobs for fellow Californians. I got my GT last week so my journey continues. New production line, new firmware installed, no issues.
@@barnabasseadog7660 I have no hate for FM actually and really think the OW is great. It's just that I don't want to spend that much money on something I might not able to enjoy sadly... I can repair any parts of my EUC, change the tire, even changing the motherboard is not an issue. As a risk/reward I choosed EUC but if we speak about fun only. I would have bought the OW. And I am really sad about that.
@@DarikStone Future motion is doing allot of anti consumer moves like bringing 3rd party accessory manufacturers to court so that they can have a monopoly on not only the OW design itself but also what goes on it. They are the sole reason why most advancements with the sport are stifled. Their current stance on independent repair is a bit more relaxed compared to how they have been. It's not hard to see their corruption either "with asking owners to black out labels on their box so that transportation companies such as FedEx cannot tell there are hazardous fire risks shipping in sensitive storages such as planes or ships inorder to save money on shipping costs and lets not even talk about the ridiculous reasons why they deny people for warranty repairs."
I have two 4208 XRs, which I love and can still swap batteries etc between boards because it was before F.M. ramped up their anti-repair anti-customer policy... 👎 fFM Next onewheel I put money into will be a DIY board because that is where the future stoke will be. Build the product youself, reject the company. 👍
@@TheDIYFilmmaker hi, I think if the hardware version is 4209 or earlier, you can still swap batteries and controllers. From 4210 and up, the battery and controller are paired.
Why wouldn’t you think it will be dethroned it’s way more powerful as way more range it goes faster the design is better The ride feels better the headlights on it is brighter it’s like saying you wouldn’t think the XR would dethrone the plus when the XR and plus were closer in spec and look while the difference between the GT and XR are way more significant
For me it depends on two things: 1. if aftermarket parts become easy to source. 2. If my current XR outlasts the GT and they bring out a new board. Personally I'd love to see them work with someone like TFL and produce a slightly lighter board designed to be ridden like a skateboard. BANGS as stock, TFL grip, sidekicks, concave pads, a lighter battery pack, that's fairly quick to swap out, saves weight for tricks, but bring a spare in the backpack if you want a long ride, Street pro tyre, maybe Varials? Between FM and TFL they could make boards that bring people into the culture, which they both do already, but I think together it'd be easier for people to just jump straight in with a board that can session street spots.
Lewwy Lately said; the XR aftermarket is well established and I think the weight of the XR comes into play when compared to the GT (almost a 10lbs difference). I think if you put CBXR batteries in the XR…your getting pretty damn close to parody. Sure, maybe in a year or two the GT will have the aftermarket support that the XR has now…then I’d say the GT is the real king of the hill. IDK, there is just something about the XR that makes it pretty epic
@@Coolae450not everybody wants to send their board to California to get it fixed. Plus the community around onewheel places a heavy emphasis on customization right to repair issues are not very in line with this.
@@FacelessBuilder this was before my gt broke and now yes I fully agree with you but I’m broke and my gt has been broke for almost now. I wanna ride sooo bad
I do agree with the ppl saying buy used, not to support FM's practices.. look into it if you're not aware of why this is being said about Future Motion..
Got my XR since last August. Revision 4212. Thanks to the JWFFM chip "no cut" I've just setted up an CBXR Chi Battery few weeks ago. Works like a charm : more punchy, better tork and got same, if not more range than the GT now (50-60 km). Magnetic carbon C&R fender, Air pad rear foot pad, ultra reflective side kicks from Float life. Got a pair of ceramic grizzly bearing too (now I just have to find a place or someone to install this ^^' Stock life service in France just does not exist, and I don't have proper tool for that -like a 3 tonnes press....-). Looking to change my stock Vega tire for a sweet Enduro FL ones ;-P. Got Float Plats and Fangs V.3 too. I don't see any reasons to switch for the GT. Perhaps the next Onewheel generation will be ok but now my XR do same, if not better than the GT.... And Futur Motion really fucked up with their anti right to repair moves. They gonna have to change before they deserve my money again.
From a safety standpoint if we put ourselves in FM's shoes doesn't your comment say it all? With "right to repair" you made a more dangerous unregulated modded version of their board with their name on it. If you get seriously injured bc the XR software was designed to allow modding then who's at fault? I'm not arguing really it's more of a what if stand point. Just a thought.
@@YBG_DAG I don't buy that argumet at all. If he gets in an accident the fact that it's modded and souped up will be front and center. Besides his reason for upgrading the battery is an unusual one, the vast majority of people just want to extend the range of their ride, especially as the boards get older. Companies have used the "we're fucking you for your own good" argument forever, and it's almost always bogus.
They forgot to mention the the bigger front bumper on the pint x can be switched with an original pint front bumper to restore it’s clearance. There is also the fangs v2 bumper you can buy.
I scored a pint in Aus for 950 dollars which is 500 USD, it;s such a sweet board, just keep a charger with you that thing charge so fast the range is easy 10km. No way I would spend 4k on a board you can buy 4 pints for one GT that crazy
All I know is, later today I’ll put a whisper 6 on my 4212, that has kush lo front and rear, while continuing to wait and dream about the enduro coming soon(I hope)for my 4209 that also has kush lo front and rear! I mean, I’ve ridden both GT’s, but unless I can put THE MOST IMPORTANT PART on there, no thanks FM. Great review!
I was ready to drop $2700 on an upgraded GT package. After hearing about all the GT issues, I found a local shop that still had 2 brand new XRs. I bought both of them for $1400 a piece since they were discontinued. Couldn’t be happier. My two boys and I fight over them since we are riding them all the time. Wish I could’ve bought a third, still not sold on a GT. I think the range and speed of a Pint is pointless. I what to go fast and I want to ride far.
I found a Gt for a really good price and only has 44miles on it the board is from November 2022 and I’ve heard of them ghosting. Does anyone know anything about this or if one from this year would ghosting
The GT is my first board and I'm absolutely loving it, haven't had any of the issues I've seen floating around so that's definitely a plus 😂 can't wait to see what aftermarket support comes out, hopefully FM will back off a bit on the the anti right to repair though...
G'day from Australia. I am looking at getting an onewheel GT because of more range and regenerating the battery. For on the trail and long distance shopping but mainly because i can put it on my kayak and go into town with it. As I live on a sailing boat. Gerard on board, SV GEMSTAR.
Honestly I think the XR with a CBXR battery can compete with a GT. Maybe doesn’t have the torque and climbing. But it’ll be same or better range, close to same top speed, doesn’t push back as aggressive, and won’t ghost on you and hit cars, people, and get you sued.
Let the customer know that if they remove the battery connector from the GT the board will brick itself. And they are not supporting legacy boards. They are also not 3rd party repair friendly
I saw a dude riding one of these for the first time. I thought I'd check it out. I didn't think they'd be over 2g's tho. If I lived in a bigger city I'd want one tho
i feel it would have been good, to cover the flaws of the boards aswell. Like Ghosting on GT`s and the Overheating problem thanks to the Powdercoating of the Rails. Or that it is less repairable than any other board before the GT.
I kinda hope they come out with a mid-board between the pint and the gt. Maybe they will call it the Xr, lol. But really, is it just weight that is different from the Xr to gt? Or is it length or width? Seems like it got some more junk in its trunk.
I think the XR should have been included in the main comparison since It is a great board and it is easy to find used. And can be a good middle ground between the pint x and gt.
I have the Pint X and have no regrets, but lets not pretend that 18MPH is the top speed. You will get pushback as soon as you hit 16MPH and you'd have to push through pushback to get to 18MPH which is not recommended.
I have a pint and I can get 20.5 mph on flat and I weigh 240 idk what happened but at 400miles it broke in and started rippin and still get about 6-7 miles on a charge
If youve got one kid, one wifey with so-so balance but wants to ride with you, and yourself, then start at the Pint, then Pint X, both which you pass down to them, then a GT for yourself cus now you ride every day, that's what I did hahaha
I did exactly that. I started with a used OG Pint off Craigslist as a last mile solution to work. In the six months since, I have logged some 750 miles. Up until my GT arrived last week. Now my journey really begins as I learn to carve all over again. I have since passed my Pint on to my nephew.
The pint is great for people up to 140 lbs maybe 150 lbs, and the GT is ideal for people over 250lbs, but without the XR there isn't a new onewheel for everyone in between. So 80% of the addressable market isn't addressed by the current lineup...
I cant believe FM discontinued the board that made the brand great. Sorry, but I have to say, this is the stupidiest decission FM made so far. I will get a second XR when I have the money for it and there is one to buy. If not, I mostlikely go for a Vesc as soon my XR stops working.
FM sabotage boards worse than ever before, sue anyone offering enhancements smh! Increasing numbers of previous customers are building GT killer diy boards. There are such better options out there now. FM have squeezed too tight, now its all slipping out between their fingers. D'Oh!
What options? .. im an e-longboard AT (evolve gtrs) rider , Looking to buy a onewheel, but thinking about alternatives (because the GT bricking seems stupid, specially if im from across the world) ... But cant find any alternatives
@@svenmaesalu6917 Funwheel with VESC is a very viable option now, There's the potential to build whatever style board you like with a huge range of aftermarket options for rails, batteries, footpads, controllers, tires, the list goes on. Its easy now to build boards that will not only out perform a GT but be cheaper and more reliable and more rideable around a 6" hub.
If the Pint/PintX/XR/ and GT all have same size motor. couldn't you but a high volt (or higher something else) battery in a pint and vesc it and essentially have a GT in a pint body? is that possibly the "safety" thing FM doesn't want people messing with so someone doesn't blindly follow a few RUclips videos and Now they are going over 30mph with no pushback and sue FM when they start breaking bones? Since this is the OW community I expect you to tell me how stupid I am ect but please elaborate on why I am stupid and not just "FFM"
My struggle is xr or pintx. I keep going back and forth on them. Pintx because it’s light and zippy, xr because of the amount of accessories and bigger size. I’m worried that since I have bad shoulders the xr will be too heavy.
The GT is too big. We want a pint but wider (not thicker) to accommodate normal human sized feet. The GT puts the board plane higher on the wheel which doesn't seem attractive. Which is why I still think the final form is a GT slim.
But as usual TFL BARLEY mentions the open source VESC. Why does it seem like this is some big secret? You're always doing things "for the culture" but never mention the very real alternative. I get that you're getting some perks and a big influence to onewheel riders but how can we trust what you're saying if you're completely ignoring a huge part of the community?
It’s not a huge part of the community yet. It’s getting there though. The average person looking at onewheels doesn’t have the wherewithal to immediately jump into VESC. I rode a VESC a long time ago and it’s definitely getting better in its current form! We get ours in about a week so I’m sure you’ll be seeing more.
@@TheFloatLife I get it's not the easiest thing to wrap your head around without even knowing what a onewheel is but I think everyone should be aware of it as an option. Can't believe I had a onewheel for over a year and had never even heard of VESC. Just seems strange to me that it's barely even mentioned by the top onewheel influencers like yourselves. I hope we see some VESC vids from you guys soon tho. The future is exciting and thanks to guys like Kaettz aka vesc.mann the future is now!!
None don’t support a sleazy company called future Motion will wait till future lotion Patton runs out then I will buy one wheel that’s made to be a one wheel GT and pint are overpriced pieces of shit
Great video, love seeing the unvarnished opinions with the different strengths that make each board suitable for different riders, their needs, and budget considerations. I'm eagerly awaiting the Enduro for my XR and all the new goodies that you excellent humans will be dreaming up for the GTs (can we get a Kush already please? OMG). In the meantime, I'll be waiting to ambush the poor UPS guy when they arrive with the TAC gear that I just ordered from you guys the other day.
Float on!
just get an electric skateboard, quite literally better in every way
@@staticboss4029 for some, sure. I cannot manage a remote for one, not reliably, as I have nerve damage in my dominant hand and other issues in my offhand. This means that I'm relegated to either an EUC or Onewheel and using my body movement for control over direction and speed.
I bought a Pint X in March 2022. At only 5-foot-7, with a men's size 8 shoe, I have so much more control on the Pint X than when I ride my XR. Super sharp turns, nimble dodging around potholes and big roots, and light weight with torque for crazy carves and unreal hill climbs. My XR is a relaxing cruiser best on long flat stretches of pavement where I don't need to react quickly and can open up the higher top speed. My Pint X is a rocket on dirt trails, uneven sidewalks, and up the steep hills of my town.
I would personally only recommend the Pint to either give to small children or to be used explicitly as a tool-- the doubling of range and slightly higher top of the Pint X makes the board feel more capable keeping up in the bike lane in busy cities and being used for transportation in general. The range anxiety on the original Pint is real and without the ability to upgrade the battery on the newer models very easily it's difficult to justify not saving up a few hundred more to splurge on something you won't feel the need to upgrade from in the first month or two!
Another note is that the GT (aside from battery management system drama) is an absolute beast of a machine! I use it to commute and it gets me from central Brooklyn to the UWS in Manhattan and back with decent battery to spare! It is pretty heavy so it's a pain to carry around, but it seems to fit in the large lockers at most gyms I've been to and I have had no trouble putting a cheap bike lock around the handlebars while at work/ other semi-supervised places :)
Getting into Onewheels is honestly about the most fun and refreshing decision I've made in my life and I can't wait to see how much it grows in the coming years!
One of the best all rounded video when it comes to sharing the thoughts on the Pint, Pint X and GT. Great job TFL!
I bought my first board about 2 months ago (Pint X) and absolutely love this thing! I had zero board experience or anything. I'm a very short and light rider (5'2'' 105 lbs) so its a perfect fit for me. I can go a bit faster and longer than the advertised speed and range without any problem. I use it for exploration and mostly commute to work since I live in a big city. Its super versatile. Even tried some small trails and I had the time of my life! After constantly hitting pushback I was already thinking about the GT but now that I've crashed twice in 3 days, I'm kinda happpy it was not at higher speed hahaha I think I'm gonna stick to it for a while! GT seems too big and heavy for me. Added Kush Nug Lo after a month and thinking about swapping for an Enduro tire if one for Pint X is available in the future :)
This was like one long video expressing the unspoken: XR is really the best, they should have just beefed up the range and torque on the XR frame.
It would still look like a science project from your garage. Some riders looking to get into the sport have no interest in owning an XR.
You know how every once in a while, restaurants will discontinue a fan-favorite, leaving everyone shaking their heads, and then bring it back years later? Calling it now, they’ll bring back a proportionally similar, updated board in a few years and call it the XR 2.0 or something, to everyone’s delight. They’d make a killing.
@@nateburnie400 I want some new batteries that will get it back to plus thickness!
let me help everyone who watches this video: dont buy these garbage things. get an euc
@@barnabasseadog7660 dude idk what you're talking about my XR is Beautiful, full wooden deck, wooden fender deletes, white carbon fibre fender, burgundy side rails done in automotive paint, the GT is ugly AF
I have Pint, XR and GT and agree with this vid. The Pint is great fun, very manoeuvrable and light. I don't use the XR as I find it less carvy and difficult to dismount. The GT really is good, feels much safer than the XR and has all that range. I was worried about the cost of the GT but am very happy with it and will try to sell the XR. GT feels much the safest and nearly as carvy as the Pint (but the Pint is still the most fun tbh).
Are you still looking to sell your XR?
I feel like if the Pint X gets some more aftermarket love (BANG Bumpers, Aftermarket rails, etc.), the thing could be a total beast. Hopefully we can get some more Pint X accessories from TFL soon! 🤙🏼
Facts, I got 1600 miles on my pint x and would totally love some more love
This makes me more likely to buy another board than any Onewheel advertisement, maybe because it actually mentioned negatives… unfortunately I already have all three 😆
X'-D
If you dont know what to buy, buy XR. Its cost 50% of last year price with all upgrades, or even less.
Proud owner of a Pint here. About 1k miles, still on the stock tire, here's my 2 cents:
- Reliability: Had to change a few parts, broken front sensor after about 700 miles, probably because I didn't notice some small rocks stuck in the grooves of my shoe and messed it up, but could just be wear, not sure. Maghande let itself go last week, broke in half as I was picking it up, easy fix. Overall I'd say it's really sturdy and can withstand pretty much anything you throw at it, but do yourself a favor and buy a float plate. And probably the charge plug, maybe it's not necessary but gives some peace of mind when it rains.
- Maintenance: little to none required, just some clean up after rough weather or trails.
- Cons: The pads are too small, both my heels and toes stick quite a bit out of the board on either side (size 43 EU, I think it's 9 US), and you don't have that much space to adjust. The front sensor is a bit "touchy" at times, sometimes when mounting it doesn't activate if you don't press your foot down enough (and precisely), so you jump up and the front just flops down very anti-climactically, and you look like a fool 😂. Battery lasts less than you'd expect, 8 miles run by really fast, but it just depends on your needs, for me is more than enough to go back and forth from work.
-Pros: FUN. It's all that matters really. All the cons mean nothing once you mount and start carving around. The city literally transforms when you are on a Onewheel, it becomes your personal playground. I'm a very lazy person, but when I wake up and realize I'm about to mount my Pint I daresay I'm even happy to go to work.
What board you buy isn't really changing that, it's like the difference between buying a Ferrari or a Mclaren, one maybe faster, better looking or more reliable than the other, but you are still on a very fast supercar, it's not like one would work and the other one wouldn't. As long as the board you choose is capable of bringing you where you need to go mileagewise, you're good to go.
The looks people give you are hilarious. I live in Rome, and I may very well be the only one with a Onewheel in the whole city, I haven't seen another one in 2 years, and I'm ready to bet 99% of the people don't even know what a Onewheel is. The looks of shock/surprise/disbelief people throw at you never get old. (Cons to that is no group rides for me 😥)
Just do yourself a favor and get one, any model will do.
A second hand XR of course
Not a bad choice!
I love u guys and what you do keep doing it. Bless up & Float on.
I was about to buy a GT and learned about all the bug, ghosting etc.. The price is too high as well. And the fact that we have to send it back to FM in case of issue and the lack of 3rd party made me bought an EUC instead. So I am waiting for a GT fix and FM to loose a little bit on the right to repair + 3rd party. Once that fixed, I'd glably buy one. I will just rent one from time to time while waiting!
I can understand the reasons for the hate on FM, but no one makes anything in America anymore. I like the idea of supporting a guy who created a great PEV in California and instead of manufacturing it in China, started his own factory in his own home town, providing great jobs for fellow Californians. I got my GT last week so my journey continues. New production line, new firmware installed, no issues.
@@barnabasseadog7660 I have no hate for FM actually and really think the OW is great. It's just that I don't want to spend that much money on something I might not able to enjoy sadly...
I can repair any parts of my EUC, change the tire, even changing the motherboard is not an issue.
As a risk/reward I choosed EUC but if we speak about fun only. I would have bought the OW. And I am really sad about that.
Buy used. Don't support FMs practices. JW batteries won but FM wants to re open the case draining JW batteries until they can't afford to win anymore.
What exactly are you talking about?
@@DarikStone Future motion is doing allot of anti consumer moves like bringing 3rd party accessory manufacturers to court so that they can have a monopoly on not only the OW design itself but also what goes on it. They are the sole reason why most advancements with the sport are stifled. Their current stance on independent repair is a bit more relaxed compared to how they have been. It's not hard to see their corruption either "with asking owners to black out labels on their box so that transportation companies such as FedEx cannot tell there are hazardous fire risks shipping in sensitive storages such as planes or ships inorder to save money on shipping costs and lets not even talk about the ridiculous reasons why they deny people for warranty repairs."
I have two 4208 XRs, which I love and can still swap batteries etc between boards because it was before F.M. ramped up their anti-repair anti-customer policy... 👎 fFM
Next onewheel I put money into will be a DIY board because that is where the future stoke will be.
Build the product youself, reject the company. 👍
Are all XR free of anti-repair policy or only before an specific revision?
@@TheDIYFilmmaker hi, I think if the hardware version is 4209 or earlier, you can still swap batteries and controllers.
From 4210 and up, the battery and controller are paired.
@@wizrom3046 Thank you so much!
@@TheDIYFilmmaker youre welcome.
Also, you can see the onewheel's hardware ver number when it connects to the onewheel phone app.
Man I think I just need to get the GT. Thanks for this video.
Still love my XR…and I didn’t think the XR will truly be dethroned by the GT, especially given the ability to upgrade the battery with some Chi love.
Why wouldn’t you think it will be dethroned it’s way more powerful as way more range it goes faster the design is better The ride feels better the headlights on it is brighter it’s like saying you wouldn’t think the XR would dethrone the plus when the XR and plus were closer in spec and look while the difference between the GT and XR are way more significant
For me it depends on two things: 1. if aftermarket parts become easy to source.
2. If my current XR outlasts the GT and they bring out a new board.
Personally I'd love to see them work with someone like TFL and produce a slightly lighter board designed to be ridden like a skateboard. BANGS as stock, TFL grip, sidekicks, concave pads, a lighter battery pack, that's fairly quick to swap out, saves weight for tricks, but bring a spare in the backpack if you want a long ride, Street pro tyre, maybe Varials? Between FM and TFL they could make boards that bring people into the culture, which they both do already, but I think together it'd be easier for people to just jump straight in with a board that can session street spots.
Try out the CBXR Stunt Pack (Custom 15s3p @ 45A with Samsung 30Q cells)
It really juices you up, hit 27.1 mph slightly uphill yesterday
Lewwy Lately said; the XR aftermarket is well established and I think the weight of the XR comes into play when compared to the GT (almost a 10lbs difference). I think if you put CBXR batteries in the XR…your getting pretty damn close to parody. Sure, maybe in a year or two the GT will have the aftermarket support that the XR has now…then I’d say the GT is the real king of the hill. IDK, there is just something about the XR that makes it pretty epic
@@chrischeshire3867 I think it’s just cause it’s been the flagship for 4 years with no upgrade till now so that’s all we had
I'm glad you posted this, but can we also get another video talking about the XR and why buying a used one can be great too?
9:13
@@TheFloatLife *finishes watching the video*
Me: Imma keep comments till finishing videos djxnensuxhr😅
The answer is that you buy NONE until they fix their right to repair issues.
Can’t you just send the board back to fm?
@@Coolae450not everybody wants to send their board to California to get it fixed. Plus the community around onewheel places a heavy emphasis on customization right to repair issues are not very in line with this.
@@FacelessBuilder this was before my gt broke and now yes I fully agree with you but I’m broke and my gt has been broke for almost now. I wanna ride sooo bad
Sweet video! Waiting on my front porch as I type this awaiting my new GT!
Used onewheel XR for the win!
I do agree with the ppl saying buy used, not to support FM's practices.. look into it if you're not aware of why this is being said about Future Motion..
FFM!
A VESC
VESC!
Got my XR since last August. Revision 4212. Thanks to the JWFFM chip "no cut" I've just setted up an CBXR Chi Battery few weeks ago. Works like a charm : more punchy, better tork and got same, if not more range than the GT now (50-60 km). Magnetic carbon C&R fender, Air pad rear foot pad, ultra reflective side kicks from Float life. Got a pair of ceramic grizzly bearing too (now I just have to find a place or someone to install this ^^' Stock life service in France just does not exist, and I don't have proper tool for that -like a 3 tonnes press....-). Looking to change my stock Vega tire for a sweet Enduro FL ones ;-P. Got Float Plats and Fangs V.3 too.
I don't see any reasons to switch for the GT. Perhaps the next Onewheel generation will be ok but now my XR do same, if not better than the GT.... And Futur Motion really fucked up with their anti right to repair moves. They gonna have to change before they deserve my money again.
From a safety standpoint if we put ourselves in FM's shoes doesn't your comment say it all? With "right to repair" you made a more dangerous unregulated modded version of their board with their name on it. If you get seriously injured bc the XR software was designed to allow modding then who's at fault? I'm not arguing really it's more of a what if stand point. Just a thought.
@@YBG_DAG I don't buy that argumet at all. If he gets in an accident the fact that it's modded and souped up will be front and center. Besides his reason for upgrading the battery is an unusual one, the vast majority of people just want to extend the range of their ride, especially as the boards get older. Companies have used the "we're fucking you for your own good" argument forever, and it's almost always bogus.
I've had the GT for 3 months just picked up an old used pint for my kids it's perfect
I have 2 XRs and a GT. I love the power of the GT.
Unplug the battery and see what happens with the GT...
Great video as always, the Pint is a great entery board. For new risers, stay safe, repect the board and Float on - o - !
They forgot to mention the the bigger front bumper on the pint x can be switched with an original pint front bumper to restore it’s clearance. There is also the fangs v2 bumper you can buy.
Yeah, but then you have the same issue with the Pint which is an exposed controller box.
I’ve never heard about this, what do you mean?
I scored a pint in Aus for 950 dollars which is 500 USD, it;s such a sweet board, just keep a charger with you that thing charge so fast the range is easy 10km. No way I would spend 4k on a board you can buy 4 pints for one GT that crazy
Love the level of detail. Can’t wait to share this with all of my buddies who’re interested in floating
All I know is, later today I’ll put a whisper 6 on my 4212, that has kush lo front and rear, while continuing to wait and dream about the enduro coming soon(I hope)for my 4209 that also has kush lo front and rear! I mean, I’ve ridden both GT’s, but unless I can put THE MOST IMPORTANT PART on there, no thanks FM. Great review!
i think the pintx is the best bet for the money they offer right now without a doubt!
I was ready to drop $2700 on an upgraded GT package. After hearing about all the GT issues, I found a local shop that still had 2 brand new XRs. I bought both of them for $1400 a piece since they were discontinued. Couldn’t be happier. My two boys and I fight over them since we are riding them all the time. Wish I could’ve bought a third, still not sold on a GT. I think the range and speed of a Pint is pointless. I what to go fast and I want to ride far.
They issued a recall and fixed the ghosting issues on the GT
I have a regular pint for some time now, great way to get to work in a busy city, but I'm starting to lust over the GT, so I can really go offroad...
Awesome video as always keep up the fantastic work guys🤙. Also have a GT on the way it should be here Thursday cant wait for my first onewheel.
Where is the XR
I found a Gt for a really good price and only has 44miles on it the board is from November 2022 and I’ve heard of them ghosting. Does anyone know anything about this or if one from this year would ghosting
The GT is my first board and I'm absolutely loving it, haven't had any of the issues I've seen floating around so that's definitely a plus 😂 can't wait to see what aftermarket support comes out, hopefully FM will back off a bit on the the anti right to repair though...
Julian needs to do audiobooks. Dope video
Broke my elbow 2 weeks ago on my one wheel pint. It’s up for sale on fb market place lol
Dangit!
If I had unlimited money I would buy the GT but as of now the pint x is just fine
Team XR for me rn. Got my eye on that gt tho.
This was a great video with a lot of info! 💯💯💯
Glad it was helpful!
G'day from Australia.
I am looking at getting an onewheel GT because of more range and regenerating the battery. For on the trail and long distance shopping but mainly because i can put it on my kayak and go into town with it.
As I live on a sailing boat.
Gerard on board,
SV GEMSTAR.
Great overview of current options.
Great reviews and overview of all boards.
great video!
Honestly I think the XR with a CBXR battery can compete with a GT. Maybe doesn’t have the torque and climbing. But it’ll be same or better range, close to same top speed, doesn’t push back as aggressive, and won’t ghost on you and hit cars, people, and get you sued.
I’m about 6 ft 200 pound, will pint X be too small?
Let the customer know that if they remove the battery connector from the GT the board will brick itself.
And they are not supporting legacy boards.
They are also not 3rd party repair friendly
I saw a dude riding one of these for the first time. I thought I'd check it out. I didn't think they'd be over 2g's tho. If I lived in a bigger city I'd want one tho
The guy talking is very physically attractive wow
I agree
Would love to buy the GT for it's range and going uphill with no problems
i feel it would have been good, to cover the flaws of the boards aswell. Like Ghosting on GT`s and the Overheating problem thanks to the Powdercoating of the Rails. Or that it is less repairable than any other board before the GT.
Once we have sensors available it's happy days!
I always recommend a pint x,😁
I kinda hope they come out with a mid-board between the pint and the gt. Maybe they will call it the Xr, lol. But really, is it just weight that is different from the Xr to gt? Or is it length or width? Seems like it got some more junk in its trunk.
Was gonna get a GT but i got a Grizzly e-bike instead my XR will work for now
Nice work Julian!
Im lovin these videos. Good stuff float
All of them!
Damn, he's pretty cute :)
Don't forget the used market. You can get a nice low mileage XR for ~$1100
I think the XR should have been included in the main comparison since It is a great board and it is easy to find used. And can be a good middle ground between the pint x and gt.
We mention that at the end of the video.
Yes this is
I have the Pint X and have no regrets, but lets not pretend that 18MPH is the top speed. You will get pushback as soon as you hit 16MPH and you'd have to push through pushback to get to 18MPH which is not recommended.
Love my XR. but this will be my last. My next wheel will be an EUC. Cant support FM any more.
I'm looking at the Kingsong 16xs. It"s 1500 bucks and has better specs than the GT.
I have a pint and I can get 20.5 mph on flat and I weigh 240 idk what happened but at 400miles it broke in and started rippin and still get about 6-7 miles on a charge
Well done, my guys
That looked like it was shot in sacramento! Where are the trails you were riding? I notice the river but couldn't tell where it was.
West sac river trails typically
Perfect timing
Not going to buy FM One Wheel because FM is crappy company with no right to repair, warranty issues, one wheels getting bricked, quality issues.
At over 250 I only had one choice but I'm not mad about that lol
Solid video brother
If youve got one kid, one wifey with so-so balance but wants to ride with you, and yourself, then start at the Pint, then Pint X, both which you pass down to them, then a GT for yourself cus now you ride every day, that's what I did hahaha
Solid plan!
I did exactly that. I started with a used OG Pint off Craigslist as a last mile solution to work. In the six months since, I have logged some 750 miles. Up until my GT arrived last week. Now my journey really begins as I learn to carve all over again. I have since passed my Pint on to my nephew.
WWWOOOO Sacramento Ya!!!!
The pint is great for people up to 140 lbs maybe 150 lbs, and the GT is ideal for people over 250lbs, but without the XR there isn't a new onewheel for everyone in between. So 80% of the addressable market isn't addressed by the current lineup...
I cant believe FM discontinued the board that made the brand great. Sorry, but I have to say, this is the stupidiest decission FM made so far.
I will get a second XR when I have the money for it and there is one to buy. If not, I mostlikely go for a Vesc as soon my XR stops working.
FM sabotage boards worse than ever before, sue anyone offering enhancements smh! Increasing numbers of previous customers are building GT killer diy boards. There are such better options out there now. FM have squeezed too tight, now its all slipping out between their fingers. D'Oh!
What options? .. im an e-longboard AT (evolve gtrs) rider , Looking to buy a onewheel, but thinking about alternatives (because the GT bricking seems stupid, specially if im from across the world) ... But cant find any alternatives
@@svenmaesalu6917 Funwheel with VESC is a very viable option now, There's the potential to build whatever style board you like with a huge range of aftermarket options for rails, batteries, footpads, controllers, tires, the list goes on. Its easy now to build boards that will not only out perform a GT but be cheaper and more reliable and more rideable around a 6" hub.
If the Pint/PintX/XR/ and GT all have same size motor. couldn't you but a high volt (or higher something else) battery in a pint and vesc it and essentially have a GT in a pint body? is that possibly the "safety" thing FM doesn't want people messing with so someone doesn't blindly follow a few RUclips videos and Now they are going over 30mph with no pushback and sue FM when they start breaking bones?
Since this is the OW community I expect you to tell me how stupid I am ect but please elaborate on why I am stupid and not just "FFM"
1:05 Hey, that's Wren from @CorridorCrew, he got me interested in onewheeling. Cool seeing him appear here.
My struggle is xr or pintx. I keep going back and forth on them. Pintx because it’s light and zippy, xr because of the amount of accessories and bigger size. I’m worried that since I have bad shoulders the xr will be too heavy.
The Pint X is roughly the same weight as the XR
Do you have a Onewheel discount code?
I am looking to grab one soon.
Over 1600 miles now on stock GT slick... Still hanging tough🤙🏼
Love this tire.. unpopular opinion I know but don't care. I rip on this thing🔥
GT all day everyday 💯 picking up another GT. I want to see what the slick is about 🔥
The Pint X has poor battery housing design that can lead to damaged BMS balancing wires and main battery leads.
Im a pretty big guy at 275-280, is it worth to get a pintx or should I try go for a gt? Mostly just want to use this for commuting in the city.
Exactly the question I have as well...
The GT is too big. We want a pint but wider (not thicker) to accommodate normal human sized feet. The GT puts the board plane higher on the wheel which doesn't seem attractive. Which is why I still think the final form is a GT slim.
Growler is the move.
Sounds like you really want an XR 😜
Brand new latest hardware and firmware ghosted In the first 4 miles.
Bummer! Sounds like a bad footpad.
That sucks- nice to see they have no clue- Sorry for your issues
Do they still make XR’s?
Is it like skateboarding?
More like skateboarding's cousin, twice removed. similar to snowboarding and surfing
Get the vesc .
But as usual TFL BARLEY mentions the open source VESC. Why does it seem like this is some big secret? You're always doing things "for the culture" but never mention the very real alternative. I get that you're getting some perks and a big influence to onewheel riders but how can we trust what you're saying if you're completely ignoring a huge part of the community?
It’s not a huge part of the community yet. It’s getting there though. The average person looking at onewheels doesn’t have the wherewithal to immediately jump into VESC. I rode a VESC a long time ago and it’s definitely getting better in its current form! We get ours in about a week so I’m sure you’ll be seeing more.
@@TheFloatLife I get it's not the easiest thing to wrap your head around without even knowing what a onewheel is but I think everyone should be aware of it as an option. Can't believe I had a onewheel for over a year and had never even heard of VESC. Just seems strange to me that it's barely even mentioned by the top onewheel influencers like yourselves. I hope we see some VESC vids from you guys soon tho. The future is exciting and thanks to guys like Kaettz aka vesc.mann the future is now!!
i hate that they discontinued the xr
Ghosting, unable to repair your board without bricking it... no longer a fan of FM
Buy an XR
Uhhh..I got 1800 miles out of my stock pint
None don’t support a sleazy company called future Motion will wait till future lotion Patton runs out then I will buy one wheel that’s made to be a one wheel GT and pint are overpriced pieces of shit
800miles a tire?! 😂