1:52 Fun fact: Chile's victory deprived Bolivia of any coastline, but rather than reconcile itself to this loss, the Bolivian government maintains a navy to this day in the hope that they will one day regain access to the sea.
Well they have massive lake and some rivers so they keep fluvial naval force. Although if they had money they could lease Peruvian naval bases and make a real Navy.
Because James Bisonette thought it would be funny to block most of Argentina’s access to the Pacific. He also created Croatia for the same purpose with Bosnia.
Chile in 1902: I got the Strait of Magellan to the south! And I got the nitrate deposits to the north! My future as a regional power is assured! Narrator: In 1914 the United States opened the Panama Canal, making the Strait of Magellan strategically unimportant. After World War One, Germany revealed to the world how to turn nitrogen from the air into fertilizer, making the price of natural nitrate plummet. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
But then it turns out they got a shit ton of copper and lithium on the north too so they did become a regional power, with worldwide strategic importance.
Regional power? lol there are like 10 countries in South America, Brazil and Argentina have always, and still are, regional powers there, how many more regional powers can there be? lol
This thing of Chile being a "regional power" is propaganda nonsense from the Pinochet dictatorship which many Chileans believe to this day. Chile is more like the Netherlands, a country which is regionally above-average in many metrics, but too small to have any significant influence
@@RodrigoDavy what are you even on about? Mentioning the dictator? No, Chile is for a fact a regional power, entirely because of its economy. You cannot export like a quarter of the entire world copper supply and not be considered a regional power lmao. That's an enormous influence, not only on SA but the entire world. People don't realize Chile have such power because they're not belligerent, but it's not like the US, Europe and China are running to get treaties going every other year because they're irrelevant lol. So yeah, that would make Chile and Brazil the "regional powers". Argentina being a power thiese days is laughable lmao.
@@Joaquin-rd3kmbeing a regional power is not just about the size of the economy or having natural resources, it's about projecting power to the region We're talking like Germany and France in the EU kind of influence Chile doesn't do that at all, because diplomatically it has pretty bad relations with most of its neighbours and, economically, it's only slightly bigger than Portugal, so it just doesn't have the means to project their influence Even only considering South America alone, Chile is only the 5th largest economy, after Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Peru And if we're talking about natural resources, Venezuela should be considered a regional power because it has the biggest petroleum reserves in the entire world. But that's not how it works, is it?
also North America, there where people like the founding father Aaron Burr who tried to establish a kind of monarchy in Texas, then there's one of the founders of an "alternative" (at least compared to the Utah-based LDS) Mormon Church who said he was king of an island in Michigan. there are several other examples of not so famous people. it was a time of minimal access to information, mostly hearsay even in newspapers, long distances, still mostly wild-west type of law enforcement, a cult of personality, a territory with low population density and vast federal (unclaimed) lands... it was bound to happen
The history of South America is direly underrepresented in general discourse. What you learn as a European boils down to "there were natives, then there were Spaniards, then there were countries; they like football".
Yeah. And a tiny bit about Pinochet, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Frida Kahlo and Evita Peron. Even Bolívar only rings a bell. And that’s mostly recent history.
The asymmetry is concerning. In South America the bulk of our history studies is focused on Europe. Of course we are a product of our time, and I can see things changing over time. I hope so. Both for us and for people all over the world who are missing out on very interesting history from many interesting places and cultures!
Speak for yourself. I had to learn the whole history of South America as of the 16th century in detail. If anything, we didn't go very deep into the so-called pre-columbian societies.
If I had a nickel for every time a French guy tried to become king of a random tribe in the middle of nowhere, id have at least 2 nickels, which isn't alot but it's weird it happened twice.
@@mrterp04Charles-Marie David de Mayréna, who convinced some tribes in the Vietnamese highland to form a kingdom under his rule, then tried to sell his kingdom to French colonial authority.
2:13 The frontier to the south with Argentina wasn't completely well defined by the treaty (1881), which became a source of tension later on. A better division had to be made later with British arbitration (1902).
I remember it took them several tries because Argentina would demand arbitration by a neutral third party, including Queen Liz 2 and literally the Pope himself, and every time would denounce the decision as unfair. Only when Argentina lost to the UK in the Falklands War did it sign a treaty with Chile recognizing the border.
There's still a portion of the border in Santa Cruz/Magallanes (close to El Chaltén) that still isn't defined. There's no line in most maps, including the one Google uses.
Exactamente! I love this channel and it both surprised and made me really happy to see a video about my beautiful country. So far, I´m quite sure there had only been mentions (f.e. Military Junta and Dictatorship), but never this much.
Chile made shit ton of money back then by mining nitrate which was used make gun powder and fertilizers. They would have been a major world power until Germany chemists find a way to sintesize it in the lab.
@@diegob798 Chileans killed 2 American sailors from USS Baltimore in a bar fight in Valparaíso. The US Government and the Chilean Government were in bad terms, because the US had backed the loosing side in the Chilean Civil War of 1891. The US made demands and threatened with war if they weren't met, but Chile didn't budge. At the time, the US Navy was definitely more powerful than the Chilean Navy, but not 100 times more powerful. It was something around twice as powerful. The US Government came to the only logical conclusion: fighting a naval war far from home against a force that, though inferior, was capable of dealing considerable damage, only for reasons of national prestige, was moronic. So they backed down from their war threats and instead accepted an apology and some money. This was seen as a shameful diplomatic blunder by the American public.
Happy to hear you covering South American history, it's something I've always been interested in but isn't covered very thoroughly by general history classes.
They were actually finalized in 1776 with the creation of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate. The Bourbon Reforms granted Buenos Aires Intendencia the nominal administrative responsibility of all lands below Buenos Aires, settled an unexplored. Then called Terra Magallanica (nowadays Patagonia). And actually several forts and seasonal settlements and ports were erected all the way down to San Julián in the very south. Chile never had official documents about it as it was a military district without civilian administration, ruled directly by Lima's viceroy. It's limits ended in the Chiloe island and all southern lands were never ever mentioned as part of it's territorial responsibility. The Bourbon Reforms implicitly include the southern Pacific coast as Buenos Aires responsibility because it said all lands below the parallel ( don't temern number now). Between the Atlantic and Pacific, known or to be known further south. In fact the known or to be known also includes the Antarctic continent. Spaniards were aware of the existence of a land mass in the southern sea and by the 1800s Spanish then Argentine sealing and whaling ships visited the antarctic peninsula in summer, then lied keeping the secret to avoid newcomers finding the area.
@@a2falcone yes and no. They were written down. The Spanish were obsessed with legal documents and bureaucracy. They were detailed in most parts. The vague ones were always on frontier unexplored lands. So they made broad definitions. In the case of Chile it was strictly written down. Chile was a Captaincy, a military district with set borders, dependent directly under command of the viceroy. The River Plate Viceroyalty had vague limits on the north and south, but the writing said all lands south of the parallel are administrative responsibility of the Intendecy of Buenos Aires.
@@galaxspace1 Middle East and Africa issue is they have dozen of ethnic groups living right next to each other or untop of each other. so unlike europ which already mano ethnic groups through conversion (like how Italian identity did not exist until extremely late made so by government actoions) or straight genoicde, as late as WW2. (much of Poland and a lot of russia had germans in it. which all killed after WW2 including some major cities) Middle East and Africa never did this. So it was impossible to create ethnic borders.
As a chilean, I've been waiting for this video for a very long time! Thank you for covering our beautiful strand of a country. It has a fascinating history and I believe the South American wars of independence, as well as some other conflicts like the war of the pacific between Chile, Perú and Bolivia that you glossed over in this video or the war of the triple alliance could well be 10 minute long videos. Another short one could be Why does Uruguay exist, which is quite a fascinating story too
Same, I've been following this channel since a long ago and I always found it odd how are there so few videos about South America as a whole, since there haven't been videos about this region since the Gran Colombia video I think, which came out years ago. This video was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Another Chilean here, and I agree! This video has been a long time coming! Glad he covered it, although he forgot to mention that Chile also got Rapa Nui in 1888. I hope he does a 10 minute in the future on the Guerra del Pacifico more in depth then here, and one about the Beagle Conflict where Argentina almost invaded us, then we helped the British in 1982 as revenge. And you're right: he should do videos on why Uruguay exists, but also why Paraguay STILL exists.
@@christopherwilson1305 Dude! You know your goverment denied any help in the Falklands war. And here you are just admitting you sided with the British against Argentina. I'm starting to doubt if you're a real chilean.
I like to think that in a timeline where Argentina annexed Chile, their version of Spanish influenced the entire region making it so more people are not understandable
The funny thing about the chunk returned to Peru, it was meant to be returned after about 10 years I think, but due to other problems the territory remained under Chile until the 20th century
it was a 30 year, maybe a bit less, concession, and a referendum was to be made for the people of Tacna to decide if remain as chileans or returning to peru, but for a series of political problems the referendum was never made and the dispute was decided by the Umited States
Chilean here. Delaying the elections until the southern area was chileanized was the plan from the start. We even forbade the celebration of peruvian holidays and legend says women wearing black would circle the plaza of Arica in protest for 10 years.
@inconformista8534 Imagine being so pathetic you only try getting the land AFTER someone else puts in all the effort to cleanse it from invasive mapuches.
@@inconformista8534 Today we have to talk about Chilean victimhood. Desert campaign (reclamation of Argentine Patagonia) 1878. War of the Pacific 1879. Was it so difficult to just look for a date?.
The story of Jose De San Martin taking a rogue Argentinian Army and liberating Chile and Peru from the Spanish is one of my favorite stories. During the wars against Spain, warlords like De San Martine ignored borders and fought the Spanish wherever they could be found.
@@balak1 it's become a meme, indeed: A few years ago, Chile won the America soccer cup against Argentina (twice). After the game, a fan in live tv said that "We are the best country of Chile" when he clearly meant "We are the best country of the world/of America". People think this frase is too funny to be forgotten, so we use it for everything 😁
This makes me think that there should be videos on why Brunei is divided in two and why Ethiopia is currently landlocked despite being so close to the Indian Ocean.
Simple, political issues and political divisions between the Bolivian people. Aldo that one is the constitutional capital and the other has everything else
Thanks for the info. My youngest brother married a Chilean lady, Monica. She is such a sweetheart, everybody loves her. She also straightened out my ner' do' well brother like a piece of wire😁. Thanks again for the history lesson.
Chilean here. Amazing video! Very well reaserched and explained easily, I have zero complains. Great work as always. *Alsowearekeepingthecoastnomatterwhat*
Emperor Tigerstar did a good video on the wars of Chile. It included the Mapuche conflict. It's weird learning history when you've been out of school for over a decade.
discovered this when i was making some research about the argentine confederation... still wondering why they never taught it to me in school (argentina hablando ingles a un chileno jsjs)
Hola compañero chileno. "El Rey de la Patagonia" is not often mentioned to basically being a loon and trying to carve up a kingdom for himself (like other franchutes do) in land that was not his.
Cool video imagine if Chile became an empire today it would take the coastline of all countries and just make itself long as a tradition keep up the good work
Before I watch: because of the Andes. After watching: okay, it was a little more complicated than that, but I was right. And that story about the French king of Patagonia deserves a video in its own right.
I’m guessing this video came out because of the new hearts of iron DLC drop in a few days. And hats off for that because I was actually really curious about this lol.
Fun fact, Chile hired Prussian military advisors to modernize it's army. They have kept those Prussian military traditions ever since, so if you want to see what Bismarck's army looked like on parade, Chile is the best acting example
Yes but that only happened in the 1890s after winning the war against Peru and Bolivia in 1883. Practically no foreign war was fought with the prussianized Chilean Army. They became a great deterrent.
You can't traverse Chile by road. If you go south, the roads stop at one point and then start again later. You can move between these areas through Argentina, though.
@@2712animefreak I know Punta Arenas is quite isolated. You can travel to Argentina/Tierra de Fuego I think, but the very south is it’s own ecosystem I think.
I once saw a Bolivian saying he will volunteer in the next Serbo-Croatian war because they took all the coast and that made him feel personally attacked.
Because mountains make great natural borders, duh! Also, does Chile have like one super long railroad or highway reach from one end to the other? That'd be a fun road trip 😅
There is the Panamericana Highway, which covers most of the country, but it stops at a point in the south because the coastline becomes a maze of fjords and gulfs. If you want to get to Punta Arenas by land, you actually need to pass through Argentina as there is no roadway that connects directly to the rest of the country,
Oddly enough no, we don't have one. There are railroads in the north, south and Central parts of the country, but these are not connected between eachother.
You can travel just by car from arica to puerto montt, but in puerto montt youd have to take a ferry to get to the carretera austral (which only gets to villa o'higgins), from then the rest of the country is accesible by crossing to argentina, then back to chile
Basically, Argentina always wanted to get all of the southern cone, that belonged to Chile. So, they claim ownership of 3 islands, and designed Queen Elizabeth as the arbitrator. She ruled in favour of Chile, Argentina was salty and denied the ruling, and almost went to war against Chile in 1978, but chickened out when they realised they weren’t going to win easily. Then in 1982 in the Falklands War, Argentina claimed ownership of the island because they believed the UK wouldn’t fight for it, becoming the perfect distraction to then declare war on Chile with the massive wave of support from the other South American countries for sticking it to the UK. So Chile was in a position of the Enemy of my Enemy is my friend, and historically the UK has been always chill with us. So it was or supporting UK or aiding Argentina in declaring war on us, and the Argentinians has been hilariously calling us traitors with no reason
Because argentina wanted war with Chile but somehow argentinos omit and ignore that fact and proceeded to call Chile traitor for pure looser resentment. The end
Chile and Argentina had long been rivals ever since they got their independence so "enemy of my enemy is my friend" and also Pinochet had a good personal relationship with Thatcher. After Pinochet was arrested for human rights violations, Thatcher publically defended him as a friend of Britain and the charges as politically motivated.
@@VR36030 Chile does not consider Argentina as an historical rival, that tittle goes to perú. It is Argentina the one that was desperate to go to battle against Chile for pure hegemony.
Long story short, Argentina attempted to invade Chile 6 years earlier and so its stupid to aid a nation that tried to invade you less than a decade earlier
As an American who only took a single semester of Spanish (which didn't stick), I find South American history fascinating. Being a part of the new world, its major formative events were all going on at the same time as those of the U.S..
Not at the same time. The independence of South America was certainly inspired by the American Revolution . That’s why most countries have presidents and not prime ministers. Much of what happened south echoed what happened north.
On of the best parts, for me, of these videos is it explains why some of the land claims exist in Kaiserreich. Very helpful. Now if you will excuse me I think I need to go start a new game to reclaim Chile's righful lands. For peace.
Finalmente un video preciso, dinámico y neutral desde varios puntos de vista. Como chileno quisiera agradecer tu contribución a la difusión de nuestro país y a la historia sudamericana. Como dato extra, poco se suele hablar sobre el conflicto de la puna de Atacama, y valoro mucho tu mención de la misma 🇨🇱
I'm a descendant of Charles Miller Norton, an Irish/English man (we're not entirely sure), who was part of the crew of the Goleta Ancud, the ship that took claim to the Magellan Strait in behalf of the Chilean government. Also, my grandpa was part of the team of lawyers who negotiated a border dispute with Argentina in the 70s. He met the Pope!
@benjaminprietop. I knew the Pope was involved, but doubted myself when other comments mentioned Queen Elizabeth. Great "claim to fame". That name sounds English, but my girlfriend's Irish ancestors had an English sounding name. Back when they came to England, it was all part of the UK and people moved about within it and round the world to work in the empire and elsewhere, as they did before settling here.
@@alansmithee8831there were 2 mediations. The first one in 1972 if i'm not mistaken. Queen Elizabeth ruled in favor of Chile and 4 years later in 1976, Argentina rejected the mediation. This led to the 1978 Beagle Crisis that almost ended in a war between Chile and Argentina, in the Christmas of 1978 both countries were in the route to attack each other but the pope intervined in the right moment. This mediation led to the 1984 treaty who solved almost all territorial disputes
Also, Chile looks like that because of their natural borders. Very nice country, incredible and underrated food, i always visit Ranwater, a small town near Santiago in the Ohiggins Province
When I was a student living on Guan taking World Geography back in 1968, the mention of the country Chile always brought a round of snickers from my Guamanian classmates, because Chile was their name for the male organ. True story.
That’s another can of pickles. In 1888 their people conceded their sovereignty in exchange for the protection from the state of Chile as they were ravaged by slave trade and diseases.
0:01 Little mistake there The southern edge of chilean territory shown here (tierra del fuego) actually belongs to argentina and it's disputed between the 2 countries to this very day, but like i said it's argentinian territory Still later in the video you seem to correct it
I probably won't remember much of anything about this, but really cool video. I love learning the interesting and odd history of how countrys ended up with their borders.
@@OjalaTeFusilen De hecho me lo estaba esperando, quede sorprendido cuando explicó que era una reclamación y no un territorio bajo control soberano Que mucha gente o no entiende la diferencia, o simplemente necesita algo de nuestra historia para jodernos, aunque sea falso. Nosotros ni siquiera necesitamos mentir para joder XD
3:00 you got that part wrong, it was supposed that Chile would held elections in the Tacna province (the chunk of land mentioned on the video) and Arica province if they wanna be chilean or return to Peru, sadly after the war Peru fall in a civil war making chile holding the land until the situation was resolved in Peru, afterwards chile fell on a civil war too making both country busy and forgetting abt the elections in the Peruvian territory that was occupied long time after in 1929 Chile and Peru settle this matter with the Andes Treaty where Chile just decided if will keep Arica and give Tacna to Peru instead of the elections
La Patagonia estaba internacionalmente aceptada como parte del Virreinato del Río de La Plata, entiendo. Ergo, cuando se independizan las Provincias Unidas del Río de La Plata, ese territorio estaba internacionalmente aceptado como parte de ese nuevo Estado.
1:52 Fun fact: Chile's victory deprived Bolivia of any coastline, but rather than reconcile itself to this loss, the Bolivian government maintains a navy to this day in the hope that they will one day regain access to the sea.
Well they have massive lake and some rivers so they keep fluvial naval force.
Although if they had money they could lease Peruvian naval bases and make a real Navy.
austria moment
Also, Bolivia is the only country in the Americas which doesn't have a formal diplomatic representation in Chile.
@@theduckyduck27actually, austria isn't allowed to have a navy by the treaty of versatile after ww1
@@cloudyfromtpotrealit was a very versatile and flexible treaty. Everytime Germany went against the point of the treaty, everyone said it was ok!
The irony of turning my phone landscape mode for this
i only do that for p0rn, in this case geography porn.
Sometimes that helps .
Underratedly clever
lol
Because James Bisonette thought it would be funny to block most of Argentina’s access to the Pacific. He also created Croatia for the same purpose with Bosnia.
Nah
@@jamesbissonette8002can u give me small loan of 1 billion dollars?
Damn it you Beat me to it
@@jamesbissonette8002It's him
Actually, Kelly Money Maker is the one who created Bosnia
Chile in 1902: I got the Strait of Magellan to the south! And I got the nitrate deposits to the north! My future as a regional power is assured!
Narrator: In 1914 the United States opened the Panama Canal, making the Strait of Magellan strategically unimportant. After World War One, Germany revealed to the world how to turn nitrogen from the air into fertilizer, making the price of natural nitrate plummet. One must imagine Sisyphus happy.
But then it turns out they got a shit ton of copper and lithium on the north too so they did become a regional power, with worldwide strategic importance.
Regional power? lol there are like 10 countries in South America, Brazil and Argentina have always, and still are, regional powers there, how many more regional powers can there be? lol
This thing of Chile being a "regional power" is propaganda nonsense from the Pinochet dictatorship which many Chileans believe to this day. Chile is more like the Netherlands, a country which is regionally above-average in many metrics, but too small to have any significant influence
@@RodrigoDavy what are you even on about? Mentioning the dictator? No, Chile is for a fact a regional power, entirely because of its economy. You cannot export like a quarter of the entire world copper supply and not be considered a regional power lmao.
That's an enormous influence, not only on SA but the entire world. People don't realize Chile have such power because they're not belligerent, but it's not like the US, Europe and China are running to get treaties going every other year because they're irrelevant lol.
So yeah, that would make Chile and Brazil the "regional powers". Argentina being a power thiese days is laughable lmao.
@@Joaquin-rd3kmbeing a regional power is not just about the size of the economy or having natural resources, it's about projecting power to the region
We're talking like Germany and France in the EU kind of influence
Chile doesn't do that at all, because diplomatically it has pretty bad relations with most of its neighbours and, economically, it's only slightly bigger than Portugal, so it just doesn't have the means to project their influence
Even only considering South America alone, Chile is only the 5th largest economy, after Brazil, Argentina, Colombia and Peru
And if we're talking about natural resources, Venezuela should be considered a regional power because it has the biggest petroleum reserves in the entire world. But that's not how it works, is it?
I love how "random European turns up and briefly becomes king" is a running trope of 19th century Latin America
Or random American bussinessman *William Walker* becomes dictator of Nicaragua
Or random British becoming rajah of Sarawak ( Borneo )
@chinsaw2727 The Austrian Emperor made sure that his brother renounced the Austrian Throne.
@chinsaw2727Cinco de Mayo is an artificial holiday albeit. It’s not celebrated in México and most celebrating don’t know the context.
also North America, there where people like the founding father Aaron Burr who tried to establish a kind of monarchy in Texas, then there's one of the founders of an "alternative" (at least compared to the Utah-based LDS) Mormon Church who said he was king of an island in Michigan. there are several other examples of not so famous people. it was a time of minimal access to information, mostly hearsay even in newspapers, long distances, still mostly wild-west type of law enforcement, a cult of personality, a territory with low population density and vast federal (unclaimed) lands... it was bound to happen
“No ocean for you!” - Chile
"Fine! No Atlantic Ocean for YOU then! ... wait..." - Argentina
"I don't like that" - Bolivia (landlocked, but with a navy)
One ocean for you. We called dibs on the pacific
Bolivia: where ocean
"Dude, Uncool..." - Bolivia
"One long boi"
Perfect description of chile
I prefer "Chile's very very very very very long and thin"
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on
Chile is the definition of that Japanese commercial for a candy called Long Long Man
@@morbidsearch Monaco so small you can see the piers within!
SHUT UP
1:29 "He became their ruler with one simple tactic. He lied."
Pretty much sums up all of world history.
Except Canada and Norway's.
Well there is a long history of using sharp pointy things too.
@@recoil53 Don't forget those exploding barrels, shooting round metal stones. Those were kind of a big deal too.
@@cashewnuttel9054 Castro Jr.
Also, when Arnold Schwarzenegger in _Commando_ promised to kill Sully last.
The history of South America is direly underrepresented in general discourse. What you learn as a European boils down to "there were natives, then there were Spaniards, then there were countries; they like football".
and drugs and beef, you forgot the drugs and beef*
Yeah. And a tiny bit about Pinochet, Fidel Castro, Che Guevara, Frida Kahlo and Evita Peron. Even Bolívar only rings a bell. And that’s mostly recent history.
The asymmetry is concerning. In South America the bulk of our history studies is focused on Europe. Of course we are a product of our time, and I can see things changing over time. I hope so. Both for us and for people all over the world who are missing out on very interesting history from many interesting places and cultures!
History of eastern hemisphere is known beginning from ancient Egypt, history of Americas started like yesterday.
Speak for yourself. I had to learn the whole history of South America as of the 16th century in detail. If anything, we didn't go very deep into the so-called pre-columbian societies.
If I had a nickel for every time a French guy tried to become king of a random tribe in the middle of nowhere, id have at least 2 nickels, which isn't alot but it's weird it happened twice.
What’s the other example?
@@mrterp04Charles-Marie David de Mayréna, who convinced some tribes in the Vietnamese highland to form a kingdom under his rule, then tried to sell his kingdom to French colonial authority.
The Kingdom of Sedang
C'est ce que je veux faire quand je serai grand.
And then you have France supporting a Habsburg monarch becoming Emperor of Mexico
Chile's shape can be described as tall and lean - everything I wish I was
Mr. Steal Your Girl, Chile
'Cause I'm long, and I'm strong
And I'm down to get the friction on!!!
Feel that
@@timmccarthy9917 Mr. steal your coastline
Being a tall and lean "bean pole" (whatever that is) isn't the greatest either, from past experience.
Mountains: the greatest barrier to expansionists everywhere.
But also the best defense to have
@@benjaminaraya8073 you betcha.
* Hannibal has left the chat *
@@ThePsiclone I don't think you can call Hannibal. An expansionist.
He is basically a glorified raider.
god save the bigger chili
Lets not forget that, Chile its the first country of Chile.
And the best country of Chile
And of course, the first country in the world
Chile is the best country in Chile only behind Chile
What?
@@zerocool5395it's a national joke we have in chile, don't think too much about it
I love how you can tell that he's trying his hardest to not pronounce Chile too similarly to "chilly"
my dude that's how Chile is pronounced in Spanish
@@timmccarthy9917arabic too "El Chilly"
@@timmccarthy9917 Yeah, no sh!t genius. But it is the standard pronunciation in the UK, which he's carefully trying to avoid
Yeah, his pronunciation is spot on actually
Chdydufjc
As a Chilean, this is a pretty good summary of Chile's land history. Kudos to you!
2:13 The frontier to the south with Argentina wasn't completely well defined by the treaty (1881), which became a source of tension later on. A better division had to be made later with British arbitration (1902).
ahhhh that's why the south is so squarish
I remember it took them several tries because Argentina would demand arbitration by a neutral third party, including Queen Liz 2 and literally the Pope himself, and every time would denounce the decision as unfair. Only when Argentina lost to the UK in the Falklands War did it sign a treaty with Chile recognizing the border.
@@onodera3964Chile shouldn't even exist to begin with
There's still a portion of the border in Santa Cruz/Magallanes (close to El Chaltén) that still isn't defined. There's no line in most maps, including the one Google uses.
@@onodera3964 yeah calling england there is like calling your grandma to arbitrate as a neutral party. Moral of the story is, never involve britain.
As a chilean i've been following your channel for years and i'm really happy to see a video about my countty
Weird seeing a fellow Chilean on these lands. Greetings from High Bridge, Stockholm
Saludos desde Valdivia
Saludos desde buin😊🎉
Saludos desde Kulmbach!
Exactamente! I love this channel and it both surprised and made me really happy to see a video about my beautiful country. So far, I´m quite sure there had only been mentions (f.e. Military Junta and Dictatorship), but never this much.
Recently visited the country and was curious to why this was the case. Thanks for explaining!
Did u come to valparaiso?
Holy shit, I didn't realize how amazingly militarily compentent Chile was in the past
The Prussians of south america
Chile made shit ton of money back then by mining nitrate which was used make gun powder and fertilizers. They would have been a major world power until Germany chemists find a way to sintesize it in the lab.
@@diegob798 Chileans killed 2 American sailors from USS Baltimore in a bar fight in Valparaíso. The US Government and the Chilean Government were in bad terms, because the US had backed the loosing side in the Chilean Civil War of 1891. The US made demands and threatened with war if they weren't met, but Chile didn't budge. At the time, the US Navy was definitely more powerful than the Chilean Navy, but not 100 times more powerful. It was something around twice as powerful. The US Government came to the only logical conclusion: fighting a naval war far from home against a force that, though inferior, was capable of dealing considerable damage, only for reasons of national prestige, was moronic. So they backed down from their war threats and instead accepted an apology and some money. This was seen as a shameful diplomatic blunder by the American public.
@@a2falcone Can’t be worse then Russia’s blunder in the Russo-Japanese war with the Baltic fleet.
What you thought the Prussijan army uniforms where joke?
Happy to hear you covering South American history, it's something I've always been interested in but isn't covered very thoroughly by general history classes.
Excited to see how this is somehow my doing…
You and Kelly money maker drafted the treaty
@@Theonlyrealonethereis Spinning 3 Plates and Maggie Paskowski are in on it too
THE MAN HIMSELF
OMG HES HERE
NO WAY
Gotta love those South American border disputes that emerge from the Spanish cartographer going on siesta and not finalizing the boundary lines.
They were actually finalized in 1776 with the creation of the Viceroyalty of the River Plate. The Bourbon Reforms granted Buenos Aires Intendencia the nominal administrative responsibility of all lands below Buenos Aires, settled an unexplored. Then called Terra Magallanica (nowadays Patagonia). And actually several forts and seasonal settlements and ports were erected all the way down to San Julián in the very south.
Chile never had official documents about it as it was a military district without civilian administration, ruled directly by Lima's viceroy. It's limits ended in the Chiloe island and all southern lands were never ever mentioned as part of it's territorial responsibility.
The Bourbon Reforms implicitly include the southern Pacific coast as Buenos Aires responsibility because it said all lands below the parallel ( don't temern number now). Between the Atlantic and Pacific, known or to be known further south.
In fact the known or to be known also includes the Antarctic continent. Spaniards were aware of the existence of a land mass in the southern sea and by the 1800s Spanish then Argentine sealing and whaling ships visited the antarctic peninsula in summer, then lied keeping the secret to avoid newcomers finding the area.
@@Argentvs Spanish administrative borders were defined very vaguely. "Chile ends at the Andes" was good enough for them.
@@a2falcone yes and no. They were written down. The Spanish were obsessed with legal documents and bureaucracy.
They were detailed in most parts. The vague ones were always on frontier unexplored lands. So they made broad definitions.
In the case of Chile it was strictly written down. Chile was a Captaincy, a military district with set borders, dependent directly under command of the viceroy.
The River Plate Viceroyalty had vague limits on the north and south, but the writing said all lands south of the parallel are administrative responsibility of the Intendecy of Buenos Aires.
Ironically that resulted in better border lines than the British in the Middle East and Africa
@@galaxspace1 Middle East and Africa issue is they have dozen of ethnic groups living right next to each other or untop of each other. so unlike europ which already mano ethnic groups through conversion (like how Italian identity did not exist until extremely late made so by government actoions) or straight genoicde, as late as WW2. (much of Poland and a lot of russia had germans in it. which all killed after WW2 including some major cities) Middle East and Africa never did this. So it was impossible to create ethnic borders.
As a chilean, I've been waiting for this video for a very long time! Thank you for covering our beautiful strand of a country. It has a fascinating history and I believe the South American wars of independence, as well as some other conflicts like the war of the pacific between Chile, Perú and Bolivia that you glossed over in this video or the war of the triple alliance could well be 10 minute long videos. Another short one could be Why does Uruguay exist, which is quite a fascinating story too
Same, I've been following this channel since a long ago and I always found it odd how are there so few videos about South America as a whole, since there haven't been videos about this region since the Gran Colombia video I think, which came out years ago. This video was a surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
Another Chilean here, and I agree! This video has been a long time coming! Glad he covered it, although he forgot to mention that Chile also got Rapa Nui in 1888. I hope he does a 10 minute in the future on the Guerra del Pacifico more in depth then here, and one about the Beagle Conflict where Argentina almost invaded us, then we helped the British in 1982 as revenge. And you're right: he should do videos on why Uruguay exists, but also why Paraguay STILL exists.
+1 on the 10 min vids. Would love it!
@@christopherwilson1305 Dude! You know your goverment denied any help in the Falklands war. And here you are just admitting you sided with the British against Argentina.
I'm starting to doubt if you're a real chilean.
@@TheRangerNacho the truth is that european history is simply more profitable to make, but i agreed that we need more SA content
Thanks for doing content on Chile. 🇨🇱
Un chileno llego y dijo: toma 2 lucas pal tocomple
@@323DBZ exacto 💯
This feels rather perfectly timed with the new HoI4 expansion
It is :) I hope HM makes a video next about the Smoking Snakes or the Naval Arms Race between Argentina, Brazil, and Chile.
You know, Argentina tried to annex Chile, but it was to spicy…
You win Dad joke of the day award! 🎉🎉🎉
I like to think that in a timeline where Argentina annexed Chile, their version of Spanish influenced the entire region making it so more people are not understandable
Good one
Oh I thought it was that they found it too cold.
Just Think Argentina Coast if Chile is part of Argentina 💀💀
History Matters is the channel that answers questions that no one really asks, but they definitely want to hear about it. Love this channel!
Those Prussians hired by Chile to train their army did a great job.
that was after the wars anyway, the prussian helped into the modernization and the discipline of the army
This. We were trained by the french, who still kicked ass back then. Prussian advisors came after they eclipsed France.
Ah yeah the prussians with their red pants.
I like how ignorant idiot on top has more likes than 3 comments straightening the record with actual facts combined...
Prussians arrived after the war with Peru and Bolivia
The funny thing about the chunk returned to Peru, it was meant to be returned after about 10 years I think, but due to other problems the territory remained under Chile until the 20th century
it was a 30 year, maybe a bit less, concession, and a referendum was to be made for the people of Tacna to decide if remain as chileans or returning to peru, but for a series of political problems the referendum was never made and the dispute was decided by the Umited States
Chilean here. Delaying the elections until the southern area was chileanized was the plan from the start. We even forbade the celebration of peruvian holidays and legend says women wearing black would circle the plaza of Arica in protest for 10 years.
@@korosuke1788 I'm also chilean, I just didn't remembered all the details
@@ArayaPancho what year?
@@ArayaPancho 50 years of chilean occupation
Chile: we want the patagonia
Julio Argentino Roca: keep wanting it then
Claiming only during war time. You gotta love argentinian bravery huh?
@inconformista8534 Imagine being so pathetic you only try getting the land AFTER someone else puts in all the effort to cleanse it from invasive mapuches.
@@inconformista8534 Today we have to talk about Chilean victimhood.
Desert campaign (reclamation of Argentine Patagonia) 1878.
War of the Pacific 1879.
Was it so difficult to just look for a date?.
Chile shouldn't even exist. It should be part of Argentina. In fact Chile was get free by Argentina.
@@musul-boy6379 1881 Tratado de Paz y Amistad. Giving me lessons huh?
The story of Jose De San Martin taking a rogue Argentinian Army and liberating Chile and Peru from the Spanish is one of my favorite stories. During the wars against Spain, warlords like De San Martine ignored borders and fought the Spanish wherever they could be found.
It's not De San Martine, it's San Martin
Warlord? Put some respect on the liberator of America
@@endraw_ I mean San Martin disobeyed the orders of Argentina and just left the country with an army. Perhaps a better term is Caudillo.
Did you really just call San Martin a WARLORD? That's like calling George Washington a warlord.
He was a General! Not a Warlord!
I was always fascinated by Chile when I saw it on the maps (globes).
Very cool and informative video.
I love how this video already has over 100 likes despite being a minute old
The supporters get to watch it early.
i was here when it released 7 minutes ago and i was the 998th like which means it took 7 minutes for it to reach 1000 likes
Or, 20,000 views within 30 minutes of being available. There's a big fan club here!
I love how this comment has just over a hundred likes, despite not being a hundred days old.
I just came for the mandatory "Somo el mejor país de Chile"
Please explain 😂
@@balak1chile es el mejor país de chile
@@balak1we're the best country of Chile 😁
Ha ha ha! yeah baby!
@@balak1 it's become a meme, indeed:
A few years ago, Chile won the America soccer cup against Argentina (twice). After the game, a fan in live tv said that "We are the best country of Chile" when he clearly meant "We are the best country of the world/of America".
People think this frase is too funny to be forgotten, so we use it for everything 😁
This makes me think that there should be videos on why Brunei is divided in two and why Ethiopia is currently landlocked despite being so close to the Indian Ocean.
Well they did try really hard in the 20th Century.
I thought it was a good diet and exercise. Interesting topic I've never thought of. Thank you.
Bro 💀💀
Chile mentioned LETS GO
I’m not 100% sure if you’ve made a video on this or not, but on the topic of South America, you should explain why Bolivia has two national capitals
They have a spare in case Chile takes one.
Technically, Chile also has two capitals: Valparaíso is the seat of the National Congress.
Brazil has 3 and argentina almost had 2 as well
For a long while Russia would switched there Capitals between St Petersburg and Moscow.
Simple, political issues and political divisions between the Bolivian people. Aldo that one is the constitutional capital and the other has everything else
Fun fact: I love listening to the narrator list all the patrons. That's one of the highlights of each video for me. Love your videos!!
My whole family is from Chile, and I learned from this more than I ever did before. Great video!
Finally an episode about South America 💜 Cheers from Argentina 🇦🇷
As a chilean im happy to see info about us, most people around where i live dont know what or where chile is
Chile is a very beautiful country,saludos de Polonia
Thanks for the info. My youngest brother married a Chilean lady, Monica. She is such a sweetheart, everybody loves her. She also straightened out my ner' do' well brother like a piece of wire😁. Thanks again for the history lesson.
Chilean here.
Amazing video! Very well reaserched and explained easily, I have zero complains. Great work as always.
*Alsowearekeepingthecoastnomatterwhat*
hey, actual chilean here, this a supririsngly well researched video, so much, that i wish you had more videos about us, but that's fine :D
1:40 Napoleon III looks either "I told you so.", done with his nonsense, or just unsurprised.
Emperor Tigerstar did a good video on the wars of Chile. It included the Mapuche conflict. It's weird learning history when you've been out of school for over a decade.
Try doing a BA in History when you've been out of school for 3 decades...
life long learning only stops when you can no long dance through flowery fields, but take the long nap and become food for flowers.
Its not weird at all to learn no matter the age, wtf is that logic?
As a Chilean, I've never heard of Antoine King of Patagonia until this video and the release of the HOI4 DLC news
It was taught before, not anymore it seems... or your teachers sucked.
discovered this when i was making some research about the argentine confederation... still wondering why they never taught it to me in school (argentina hablando ingles a un chileno jsjs)
La educación empeoró tanto con los zurdos. Hace 20 años se enseñaba esto hasta en colegios humildes.
Hola compañero chileno. "El Rey de la Patagonia" is not often mentioned to basically being a loon and trying to carve up a kingdom for himself (like other franchutes do) in land that was not his.
It was taught in schools . Orelie Antoine de Tounens. Perhaps you weren’t paying enough attention in history class
My fav south america country love from 🇹🇷🤗🇹🇷🤗🇹🇷🤗
United States: "Our nation reaches from the Atlantic to the Pacific!"
Chile: "Okay and?"
Mexico: "Beat ya to it." 💅
So does Panama 😂
Also Canada, Nicaragua, Honduras, Guatemala and Colombia
Strangely enough, I was JUST thinking of this yesterday. Funny how History Matters randomly gave me the answer in the best way.
Cool video imagine if Chile became an empire today it would take the coastline of all countries and just make itself long as a tradition keep up the good work
Chile looks amazing! I would love to travel there someday. greetings from Tokyo-Piya - Japan
Thank you, this channel has helped me explain history to my young relatives in easy and concise way. Again, thank you for all your hard work!
You mentioned the Chileans, now we will arrive as a pack lol
Before I watch: because of the Andes.
After watching: okay, it was a little more complicated than that, but I was right. And that story about the French king of Patagonia deserves a video in its own right.
to this day, we still find french (and other europeans) supporting hostilities in araucania
@@G3rm4nc1t0Divide and conquer
Peru-Bolivia: "We can unite and be stronger together."
Chile: "NUH-UH"
I’m guessing this video came out because of the new hearts of iron DLC drop in a few days. And hats off for that because I was actually really curious about this lol.
You are a great teacher, HM. Hope you never get bored of making these videos.
Love your new style of videos HM! Thanks for making videos on so many different historical topics.
Chilean history mentioned 😳
Fun fact, Chile hired Prussian military advisors to modernize it's army. They have kept those Prussian military traditions ever since, so if you want to see what Bismarck's army looked like on parade, Chile is the best acting example
Yes but that only happened in the 1890s after winning the war against Peru and Bolivia in 1883. Practically no foreign war was fought with the prussianized Chilean Army. They became a great deterrent.
You misused a comma.
@@AwesomeHairo where?
@@robertoperezcastro6130 "Fun fact:"*
A roadtrip across Chile is like skydiving
You can't traverse Chile by road. If you go south, the roads stop at one point and then start again later. You can move between these areas through Argentina, though.
@@2712animefreak and through the sea in ships that can carry your car
@@2712animefreakhow long do you have to wait in the Chile-Argentina border, if you go back to Chile?
@@2712animefreak I know Punta Arenas is quite isolated. You can travel to Argentina/Tierra de Fuego I think, but the very south is it’s own ecosystem I think.
@@balak1it is pretty quickly to pass the borders between the two countries.
Awesome that Chile had such amazing military competence back in the day. Great video.
I think they still have the best south american army after brazil but im not sure.
@@dxd15-u1jno, 1st brazil 2dn argentina 3rd chile i think
@@dxd15-u1j no
Not just back in the day. You’re welcome.
It's like some guy punches a child and a guy in a wheelchair and you say he's a great fighter.
I once saw a Bolivian saying he will volunteer in the next Serbo-Croatian war because they took all the coast and that made him feel personally attacked.
JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJ
Oe k
Because mountains make great natural borders, duh!
Also, does Chile have like one super long railroad or highway reach from one end to the other? That'd be a fun road trip 😅
No, southern Chile is not connected by road to the northern half. The only way to reach the south by land is by driving through Argentina.
There is the Panamericana Highway, which covers most of the country, but it stops at a point in the south because the coastline becomes a maze of fjords and gulfs. If you want to get to Punta Arenas by land, you actually need to pass through Argentina as there is no roadway that connects directly to the rest of the country,
Oddly enough no, we don't have one. There are railroads in the north, south and Central parts of the country, but these are not connected between eachother.
You can travel just by car from arica to puerto montt, but in puerto montt youd have to take a ferry to get to the carretera austral (which only gets to villa o'higgins), from then the rest of the country is accesible by crossing to argentina, then back to chile
There is always the sea...
*VIDEO SUGGESTION:*
Why did Chile aid Britain during The Falklands War?
Basically, Argentina always wanted to get all of the southern cone, that belonged to Chile. So, they claim ownership of 3 islands, and designed Queen Elizabeth as the arbitrator. She ruled in favour of Chile, Argentina was salty and denied the ruling, and almost went to war against Chile in 1978, but chickened out when they realised they weren’t going to win easily.
Then in 1982 in the Falklands War, Argentina claimed ownership of the island because they believed the UK wouldn’t fight for it, becoming the perfect distraction to then declare war on Chile with the massive wave of support from the other South American countries for sticking it to the UK. So Chile was in a position of the Enemy of my Enemy is my friend, and historically the UK has been always chill with us.
So it was or supporting UK or aiding Argentina in declaring war on us, and the Argentinians has been hilariously calling us traitors with no reason
Because argentina wanted war with Chile but somehow argentinos omit and ignore that fact and proceeded to call Chile traitor for pure looser resentment. The end
Chile and Argentina had long been rivals ever since they got their independence so "enemy of my enemy is my friend" and also Pinochet had a good personal relationship with Thatcher. After Pinochet was arrested for human rights violations, Thatcher publically defended him as a friend of Britain and the charges as politically motivated.
@@VR36030 Chile does not consider Argentina as an historical rival, that tittle goes to perú. It is Argentina the one that was desperate to go to battle against Chile for pure hegemony.
Long story short, Argentina attempted to invade Chile 6 years earlier and so its stupid to aid a nation that tried to invade you less than a decade earlier
As an American who only took a single semester of Spanish (which didn't stick), I find South American history fascinating. Being a part of the new world, its major formative events were all going on at the same time as those of the U.S..
South America is basically Brazil and spanish people that could not form a single empire.
@@C0lon0no, it's Brazil vs argentina, the british in the middle and THEN countries that couldnt form a single empire
Not at the same time. The independence of South America was certainly inspired by the American Revolution . That’s why most countries have presidents and not prime ministers.
Much of what happened south echoed what happened north.
Glad to see something from my country after following this channel for a while. Great video.
Really enjoyed this one. Love seeing how the maps happened
Chile looks cool though. Thank you for the awesome video
1:16 This sounds like an amazing movie
On of the best parts, for me, of these videos is it explains why some of the land claims exist in Kaiserreich.
Very helpful. Now if you will excuse me I think I need to go start a new game to reclaim Chile's righful lands.
For peace.
Some say that Chile is a very beautiful place and I would like to travel there one day.
Greetings from Temuco, Sweden
Finalmente un video preciso, dinámico y neutral desde varios puntos de vista. Como chileno quisiera agradecer tu contribución a la difusión de nuestro país y a la historia sudamericana.
Como dato extra, poco se suele hablar sobre el conflicto de la puna de Atacama, y valoro mucho tu mención de la misma 🇨🇱
I'm a descendant of Charles Miller Norton, an Irish/English man (we're not entirely sure), who was part of the crew of the Goleta Ancud, the ship that took claim to the Magellan Strait in behalf of the Chilean government.
Also, my grandpa was part of the team of lawyers who negotiated a border dispute with Argentina in the 70s. He met the Pope!
@benjaminprietop. I knew the Pope was involved, but doubted myself when other comments mentioned Queen Elizabeth. Great "claim to fame".
That name sounds English, but my girlfriend's Irish ancestors had an English sounding name. Back when they came to England, it was all part of the UK and people moved about within it and round the world to work in the empire and elsewhere, as they did before settling here.
Mira vos, re cheto amigo, alta ascendencia tenes
@@alansmithee8831there were 2 mediations. The first one in 1972 if i'm not mistaken. Queen Elizabeth ruled in favor of Chile and 4 years later in 1976, Argentina rejected the mediation. This led to the 1978 Beagle Crisis that almost ended in a war between Chile and Argentina, in the Christmas of 1978 both countries were in the route to attack each other but the pope intervined in the right moment. This mediation led to the 1984 treaty who solved almost all territorial disputes
@@renex_g3915 Chile could in theory go back to the first proposed claim and say they now have a legitimate government then?
@@alansmithee8831 sorry I didn't get what are you are talking about. What do you mean with legitimate goverment?
*Chile:* "Hey Argentina, you want some Pacific access?"
*Argentina:* "Sure, I'll take some."
*Chile:* "Psych!!!"
To be fair it's a good trade to get 90 percent of Patagonia in exchange
Sike*
@redzard2015 Yes, that's the dumb way to spell it.
@@pzlabs1149ajjajajajaj nooooooo
@@pzlabs1149 Galtieri wasn't exactly the brightest was he
Also, Chile looks like that because of their natural borders. Very nice country, incredible and underrated food, i always visit Ranwater, a small town near Santiago in the Ohiggins Province
I'ma Chilean-American and I like how you hit all the high points! Thanks!
It’s amazing to see another Chilean-American, it feels so rare to see :D
So, estadounidense?
I was just wondering this a couple of days ago. Thanks for making this.
I'm from New Zealand and I think Chile just desperately wanted to be our neighbour.
En teoría lo somos desde Rapa nui
We are. We took Easter island to be closer to you
Part of Chile is in Oceania, so we are closer than you think mate.
In fact, we qualified for the Rugby World Cup for the first time to be able to play against you.
@@TunaBear64 yes, only 6750km away.
>Odd shaped border
>Look inside
>Mountains
Every time
As a chilean I appreciate your video and how accurate it is. Thank you
When I was a student living on Guan taking World Geography back in 1968, the mention of the country Chile always brought a round of snickers from my Guamanian classmates, because Chile was their name for the male organ. True story.
I think it’s about time we have a video on the history of James Bisonette.
Because mountains🇦🇫
Breaking news: Afghan knows about mountains
@@timmccarthy9917 You can't compare Afghan hills with the Andes mountain range.
Okay, but how did Chile get Easter Island?
That’s another can of pickles. In 1888 their people conceded their sovereignty in exchange for the protection from the state of Chile as they were ravaged by slave trade and diseases.
@@robertoperezcastro6130 thank you!
Fun fact chile was going to be even thinner but argentina agreed to give them some part of the andes so it could expand a little to the east
Norway called and asked why you thought Chile was so oddly shaped. Norway said: looks like a normal shape for a country to us.
“After some warring,…” The quiet understatement makes me bust out laughing!😂😂😂😂😂😂
Only OG's feel the pain of looking at the comments and only seeing lame something something james bissonette jokes.
Literally the worst thing about this channel.
Definitely and copy and pasted brainded jokes
0:01 Little mistake there
The southern edge of chilean territory shown here (tierra del fuego) actually belongs to argentina and it's disputed between the 2 countries to this very day, but like i said it's argentinian territory
Still later in the video you seem to correct it
Because, as chileans say, "we're the best country in Chile, bro".
This was one of those videos I swore you made already.
I probably won't remember much of anything about this, but really cool video. I love learning the interesting and odd history of how countrys ended up with their borders.
map mistake at 0:55. Peru wouldn't gain that northern border until after its war with ecuador in 1941
This is the best explained video I've seen about this topic in english.
Saludos desde el mejor país de Chile! 🇨🇱💪🗿💪🇨🇱
Si, realmente me sorprendió d que no dijera que la Patagonia era toda chilena y que argentina la robo o algo asi de estupido
@@OjalaTeFusilen
De hecho me lo estaba esperando, quede sorprendido cuando explicó que era una reclamación y no un territorio bajo control soberano
Que mucha gente o no entiende la diferencia, o simplemente necesita algo de nuestra historia para jodernos, aunque sea falso.
Nosotros ni siquiera necesitamos mentir para joder XD
3:00 you got that part wrong, it was supposed that Chile would held elections in the Tacna province (the chunk of land mentioned on the video) and Arica province if they wanna be chilean or return to Peru, sadly after the war Peru fall in a civil war making chile holding the land until the situation was resolved in Peru, afterwards chile fell on a civil war too making both country busy and forgetting abt the elections in the Peruvian territory that was occupied
long time after in 1929 Chile and Peru settle this matter with the Andes Treaty where Chile just decided if will keep Arica and give Tacna to Peru instead of the elections
Its called referendum btw
BRO HELL YEAH HE TOOK MY SUGGESTION FOR A VIDEO
La Patagonia estaba internacionalmente aceptada como parte del Virreinato del Río de La Plata, entiendo. Ergo, cuando se independizan las Provincias Unidas del Río de La Plata, ese territorio estaba internacionalmente aceptado como parte de ese nuevo Estado.