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This is just way to much hassle for gear... sure it might be BiS gear but it requires a lot of gold to craft one piece either that or a decent amount of hours gathering materials only to be relevant till next patch. This should be simplified and especially not behind a paywall...
That's not the worst thing about it, either. Everything's time-gated for a period of a few months, and you're forced to sink a lot of gold for completely useless sh!t.
So after several hours of research I found out that I need 90 Crests from m+9 or mythic raid to have the 636 weapon crafted. Although everyone says "super easy and early on" all the time.
Oh yea , SUPER EASY, i got that map only 3 times since early access has been opened, and i did over 140 tier 8 delves also you get like 2 crests from the tier 8 delve. Stop saying easy, please be realistic dont be a blizzard shill and give players the fake optimism that they can do it. It is incredibly slow and tedious
The fact that you and other content creators make so many tutorial videos about crafting shows just how convoluted and stupidly over complicated the system is now.
For real though. I mean I spend 3-5 hours playing it 4-5 days a week and I can tell I’m falling behind 😂 That mmo grind is real. It wants all your free time, every day.
@@Scuuurbs well, of course you will fall behind some no lifers, thats how time works, but thats just with every game out there and shouldnt hold you back on enjoying a great game
@@appearr7611 oh I’m still enjoying myself. To be clear though, it’s not that I’m looking at people and feeling like I’m falling behind *them,* it’s that I feel like the devs have tuned the game so that anyone who isn’t no-lifing it, is falling behind. The pace of the game feels centered around no-lifers, despite trying to be casual friendly.
@@Scuuurbs How are you falling behind then? You got months to do the raid, delves m+ or pvp however little time you have you should be able to complete whatever you intend to unless its some unreasonable thing like rank1 m+ or pvp.
I put 50 knowledgepoints in wrong thing. First time trying to craft. Could not reset points, deleted the profession and ragequit. Atleast let me reset once as a new crafter..
@@nmc400I think that's stupid because that doesn't let you try out new things or to adapt to the market. Maybe let us restart our trees and in return we lose all our points but not letting us to restart is an inconsiderate feature.
@@elodrecsanyi7622 I think thats kinda the point, the market would be all over the place if people were swapping about but it don't feel good thats for sure
@@warlock3691 that's not how this works/the system works... if people need quality 5, they are now inconvenienced and need to seek out crafters. they are not just going to drop it in a public order so some random can craft it rank 1 and waste tons of gold of the person putting up the order. the less skilled crafters do not get the craft regardless, if they can't actually max rank it (or at least go for rank 4). you don't have a single crafter and actually don't interact with the systems outside of buying your crafts, do you? don't talk crap if you're absolutely clueless. thank you.
@@warlock3691 We have patron orders now. NPCs will give you plenty of work to level up your professions plus you will get KPs and Acuity from doing them. Easy peasy.
with the new crafting system. you can require a certain quality for your item in public orders and if the crafter cannot craft it at the quality you choose, the system wont still craft it.
Hey, can you do a video on how to get the most knowledge points? like i know from various videos that you can find some, buy some off vendors, etc. but would be a good reference the next time i go to look it up, cause i did it for one of my crafters then promptly forgot, and i know i missed some things on it even
Can’t upgrade any of the omen gear past 619 without 9s or mythic raid. Most people can’t even clear 5s. I’m stuck trying to get past 7s let alone getting in 9s
I am convinced he is being sponsored by blizzard and blizzard wants to make us believe things are way easier to get than they actually are. in reality blizzard needs to keep us grinding much much longer to keep playing the game.
Question about re-crafting. If i would got an Inscriber to craft a omen quality staff (which is 606), how can i go about re-crafting it to a higher tier with those enchanted runed crests?
Good luck. That's what I was hoping to find out here. I used max level reagents, spark and enchanted runed crest and the crafter made me a rank 5 - 606 ilvl piece. The text on the runed harbinger crest says it's for 606-619. How can I get it to be 619 when it's already a rank 5? Shit is so confusing.
maybe I am missing something but running the quick maths and it looks like this would cost me nearly 80K to make a two handed weapon unless I invest significant time into my own professions, which seems really not worth the time or the gold unless you were already doing the crafting for your own enjoyment - am I crazy?
@@ShadowsOfThePast in either regard, iit sounds extremely not worth the investment. Crafting seems extremely cost prehibitive unless you're already ballin.
@@soranyix2879 Yeah well ofc it depends how much gold people have. If one has 200k and it costs 80k then it's a lot but if someone has like 4 million then not that much. Also people sold the crafted legendary base items in SL for way more than 80k and that was just the base item. I wouldn't pay 80k if I was buying it for some alt but for my main I could if I felt like it was a good deal. Prices will keep going down though the further we go into the season and ofc you can get good gear free too. Just that all the enchants etc are costly now too. Like I'm an alchemist and I sold health potions (r3) for 400+ gold.. It's crazy to me but I don't complain as long as I do the selling..
@@ShadowsOfThePast I guess what I am getting at is that it's pretty disengenous to label all this stuff as easy. It's like celebrity rich kid easy, if you're already rich nbd.
@@soranyix2879 I wasn't saying it's easy I just tried to point out that the expensiveness of things is related to the funds that are available. If I started to play WoW now from scratch I'd have to buy a WoW token for gold for sure or even more than one. But because I've played so long and haven't spent absurd amounts on random things I have accumulated a hood chunk of gold. I also have alts for professions and I always tried to be self sustained..that became hard when they made professions feel a bit too much like an actual job
im specialising in other stuff as an engineer, but I want my engineering googles, so I'm going to try and get those, and hopefully, not to use head tier set, if not, the bracers as an engineer, is algo good :)
I returned to retail last week, and managed to get my 4th spark yesterday, I wondered how I'd managed to gain so many so quickly, makes more sense now knowing about that catchup mechanic!
Quick questions.. Is it possible to get an item crafted higher than ilvl 606 through crafting order? If that is so, do I need to specify that I want them to use enchanted gilded crest? I just got a rank 5 with the correct materials crafted, but its only 606. I told him I wanted the highest ilvl possible
So im in limbo. My ilvl is 591. I can't do delves at T8 anymore. I just die. Yesterday i was able to clear 5 T8'swithout any bigger problems. They must have hotfixed delves cuz now its impossible, as solo and as group with healer and tank. Heroic dungeons dosent give me any upgrades. So that leaves me to just farm valor.... Spamming world quest and Heroics. Very boring imo.
I had a problem: as dk, I need to reforge my weapon from 619 to 636 but the forged mate, say me that is a problem with runeforge enchant. As I know, there is no way to remove it but just overwrite. Do u have any solution I can try for that?
Lol super easy, ya the fractured sparks maybe 2 or so a week, have not converted any 9 weeks after launch and only have 11 on my main, so to make a 597 base weapon will cost me 4 fractured sparks, 500 valorstones and acquiring 2 rare items from leather working but I can upgrade a 597 item to 610-613 with the same amount of valorstones. The profession route for attaining viable usable gear has never been and probably never will be a key way to get gear. Hey guys look at the 636 item I have while all my other slots are at 580 and my GS is 584 cause I spent all my stones making sparks for this one awesome piece.
@_Travey this is anything but basic compared to classic style. Professions dont need to have 13 systems inside one prof. Its clunky. Its ugly. Its stupid af.
Well that's just your opinion man. For others this is pretty easy, I even learned how this works back in dragonflight just playing the game, no explanation needed. Is super intuitive
So you can get the delve maps from the regular blue chests at the end of delve runs ? Besides running into the random (butcher ) like boss in the delve, Cause I did find one that way .
That's normal. The base spark craft at rank 5 is 606. You need to recraft the item with an Enchanted Crest (optional reagent) to get it to 626 (Runed) or 636 (Gilded). Right now these are hard to acquire, but once M4+/M9+ and Heroic/Mythic raids become more accessible, you'll have plenty
The blue world quest wont show up if your campaign isn't done. So so incredibly stupid I cant catch up in lvl 80 gear while doing the campaign. I hit lvl 77 before i even made it to hallowfall.
936 crafted gear are not designed for casuals. You will need to farm tons of gilded crest which you can only get at the end of heroic raid, mythic raid, mythic+ 8 above. Yes you can get 2 pieces by doing delves only "IF" you are lucky to get a delvers map which rarely drops and yet you only fucking get 2 pieces of gilded crest while you need 90 to craft one piece of 936 gear
Professions are useless unless you spam trade chat all day. Im 100 enchanting and alchemy, and ive burned hundreds of thousands of gold leveling them, and the mats are more expensive than the final enchant/potion/flask. Absolute waste.
That almost certainly means you are not yet optimally crafting the thing you are trying to make. You need to specialise, use the correct (and upgraded) profession tools and gear, and possibly finishing reagents. Also thanks to things like Resourcefulness and Multicraft, Its also not as easy as Cost to make 1 item < sale value of 1 item. The true profit is often derived from the average of 100's or even 1000's of crafts.
@@DjinnWraith Bro that sounds like tons of hours of farming, playing the ah, min maxing, not to mention alll those knowledge points require AA for the books which they trickle to you through rep and patron orders which are skyhigh.
@@richiepipes8960 You do not need to "MAX" out all the tree's, only the parts of the tree that affect what you are trying to craft. And yes, the system is purposely designed like that to FORCE you to specialise in early/mid-game into 1 or 2 types of crafts per profession per character. And YES, I 100% agree, it is a LOT of work, a lot of reading, a lot of understanding what affects what. Blizz making lots of work for content creators to make guides for us mere mortals who maybe don't have 20 hours a day to throw at the game :D All I was really saying before was that, just because its not profitable for you, doesn't mean its not profitable for anyone else. It just means you need to put more effort into making it profitable. (Or do something else to make your gold). Sadly thats the best I can offer you. I agree, it's a bit of a horrible system, especially with how complicated and confusing it has become. I personally am not a fan at all. But there is no shortage of guides and youtube videos walking you through how to do a particular thing profitably.
You are so articulate at breaking down these professions and while you are one of the best at it, it still confuses me. That’s how complicated the system is now.
no. nononononono. Wait for mythic week, get a decent good track mythic non-tier tier slot piece, and flip it to a maxed out myth track tier piece. This is the way.
If you wnat Crests from Delves it will take you AGES. I did 8 lvl8 delve so far and got exacly 2 Runed Harbinger Crests.... What do i need for 619? 45?
I made 590 gear from crafting (use the nascent weathered crests, not sparks) then did T8 delves and got some 606 gear from there. I'm now doing m0 (597)
You can get up to 590 without any Sparks! You just need to convert those crests and have them crafted into a special crest material by an Enchanter (use the crafting order) and then you can have a crafter make the item with your crest material included, and at max crafting Tier, it should be 590 (sounded a little more simple in my head lol)
I don’t even know where to get the recipes for these epics. I have found a few vendors and bought what I could but now I’m just sitting on recipes for weapons my paladin can’t use.
Just focus bountiful delves and farming keys for them. And farm mythic instance not as hard as it use to be i just came back from BFA. And always do your weekly quest.
Guild crafts are cross server so if you find someone in your guild or otherwise find someone on another server you can join their guild to get the crafting order filled. It's still dumb u have you do this for a workaround but at least it's there until Blizz gets their shit together
@@Michaelkayslay I was convinced by watching some content creators. I think just the fact you can choose the "best" stats for your char is really good. And basically if one would need to change the stats or craft the item on a higher ilvl they could just do a re-craft order for which u need way less mats than the actual craft.
Nah, honestly this is madness. This could just show the item and required mats. So for 636 you need these items ETC. And easy second auction house. Its madness to run around trying to understand the persons profession of whom is going to craft!. MADNESSS!
I like the gear crafting and slots but if it takes months to get a hold of. It's pretty much useless. Nobody wants to farm that long, by the time the new update rolls around.
i wish i could play all the time so i could have all the time to do even the leveling of all the characters let alone do the crafting building.....to bad im lucky to get a couple hours a night to do anything....
5:07 lol what realm is this? Max pop? I'm on Shu'halo and spotting a crafter lfw is like spotting BigFoot. I will never understand why Blizz doesn't allow for min quality on public orders. People have said it's because "everyone will always ask for tier 5 quality." Ofc. Why wouldn't they? "That will keep others from getting work." Blizz introduced patron (NPC) orders so everyone is able to get work. I have had some success with putting in public crafting orders, not including _any_ mats or tip, and then in the "note to crafter" section, I tell them to send me an in-game mail if they can make max level and what their commission is. This way I don't have to spam trade looking for a crafter. I can post my message where they will see it and then go play the game.
Why would someone waste a Sparkle of Omens, a Item that you get twice a month, to create a 606 item? You can get one 603 on tier Delve and upgrade it if you want an 606 so badly. But you can say ''Oh, you can upgrade later on this item to a 619 with 45 Harbinger''. Dude, with 45 Harbinger you can upgrade a Heroic or even a Champion gear. Just dont waste your Sparkle yet.
I don't even know where those sparks come from exactly. they are like deeply hidden in the 1000 quests this game has (my questlog is full and i regularly need to remove a few quests from it to make room for some quest i cant accept because it is full). and you can perfectly play for months without ever seeing any.
This crafting system is the worst thing they added in a while.. you literally have to waste 100K gold for nothing. Idk why we have this when we have set items already. Should be just removed all together.
I understand that this may not be your fault, but this is just so confusing. Why do they have to make it so hard to do things. You have to get these special sparks to build your clothes/armor. Then you have to get more sparks to make one spark and you need lot of them to build what you want. You also have to get the parts of a spark from special quests. If you do not have the skills to make what you want you then have to find someone to build it for you or ask somebody in your guild. About then I gave up listening to what you were saying, as I was overwhelmed already. I understand that I am old, so I am guessing that being old is my problem. I almost always learn at least one thing from your video's so I will stay subscribe to them, I guess I wish that there was somebody out there that could explain some of this to people that do not learn as fast as others. I know that there are a lot of older people that play this game. By older I am talking 60's and 70's and up. We have been playing this game from almost to beginning.
Man I haven’t played War Within since I finished the campaign , I logged in last night and got completely overwhelmed within 5 mins and logged right back out.
I just kinda feel like I don’t know what to do, I was deep in dragon flight , heroic raiding and mythic plus, doing my weekly’s, I just don’t really know where shit is at this expan, all the weekly quest and stuff
@@zachrogersss to me DF felt like that, every npc in the main city has a quest, every building looks the same shitty navigation for the new flying style. dont even think I made it far enough to unlock fligthstones as a currency
@@zachrogersss If you played DF then it's all the same, there is nothing new except for the addition of delves which are stupidly overtuned and unbalanced especially their reward this early on. Just follow the big quest markers to do weeklies you will catch up, and go play dungeons, raid just like before. I skipped DF completely so image what it felt like seeing all these systems at once, but it's all pretty straight forward once you get started.
Not sure how you all get overwhelmed.. If you care about PvE look at your vault and pick a category and complete it: Dungeons or Delves or Raid If you like PvP then do PvP get honor gear and hit arenas, If you want to level your profession then do that look up a guide it took me like 5 min to understan. Comissioning Crafting is a bit convoluted but before I took a long break from wow all professions ever did was that each spammed their best options on the market at least now you have to make some friends in the "business" because not everyone will have maxed crafting for everything
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As a returning player (played a bit of Shadowlands, then Wrath Classic), this crafting system is really inaccessible and a mindfuck.
This is just way to much hassle for gear... sure it might be BiS gear but it requires a lot of gold to craft one piece either that or a decent amount of hours gathering materials only to be relevant till next patch. This should be simplified and especially not behind a paywall...
@@Freakwolfje and Blizzard always put in catchup gear towards the end of the season.
is so retarded
Yeah super easy my ass, ill stick to farming pvp
That's not the worst thing about it, either. Everything's time-gated for a period of a few months, and you're forced to sink a lot of gold for completely useless sh!t.
So after several hours of research I found out that I need 90 Crests from m+9 or mythic raid to have the 636 weapon crafted. Although everyone says "super easy and early on" all the time.
No shit it's gonna be difficult to craft literally the best gear in the game ....
@theedude2207 screwed over?? if you're a casual doing pugs there's no reason you'd even need gear beyond like 610 ilevel.
You can do it on 8+ now
as usual.. getting to like 600/603 is actually easy (fast), afterwards progress gets way slower.
Oh this is the MMO special. Everyone likes to say some of the hardest stuff in the game is "easy" and talk about it like it's no big deal. Welcome.
Crafter is the secret hidden class.
Oh yea , SUPER EASY, i got that map only 3 times since early access has been opened, and i did over 140 tier 8 delves also you get like 2 crests from the tier 8 delve. Stop saying easy, please be realistic dont be a blizzard shill and give players the fake optimism that they can do it. It is incredibly slow and tedious
636 EASY! Just run 100 mythic 8’s! Easy!
The fact that you and other content creators make so many tutorial videos about crafting shows just how convoluted and stupidly over complicated the system is now.
Oh, don't fool yourself. These videos would be made regardless. Gotta get that $.
Crafting is a very annoying process. The only positive spin is that it forces you to collaborate directly
… have you met our lord and savior PoE?
exactly. wtf are sparks
Not gonna lie, couldn't get into the first one. But that second one has my eye @@napalmsteak
Many thanks for you time and knowledge on helping others.
Maybe make the gilded crests lootable from bountiful 10 delves.
I look in my bag and have 7!! wohoo glad i tuned in
Think blizzard needs to be reminded that this game is not my job like it is for them. I can't commit 8 hours a day to it.
It is a way friendlier expansion already though.
For real though. I mean I spend 3-5 hours playing it 4-5 days a week and I can tell I’m falling behind 😂
That mmo grind is real. It wants all your free time, every day.
@@Scuuurbs well, of course you will fall behind some no lifers, thats how time works, but thats just with every game out there and shouldnt hold you back on enjoying a great game
@@appearr7611 oh I’m still enjoying myself. To be clear though, it’s not that I’m looking at people and feeling like I’m falling behind *them,* it’s that I feel like the devs have tuned the game so that anyone who isn’t no-lifing it, is falling behind.
The pace of the game feels centered around no-lifers, despite trying to be casual friendly.
@@Scuuurbs How are you falling behind then? You got months to do the raid, delves m+ or pvp however little time you have you should be able to complete whatever you intend to unless its some unreasonable thing like rank1 m+ or pvp.
Yeah, I’m still super confused…..
Thank you so much Kelani ♥ I really appreciate the way you teach and explain, very thorough, not condescending, very friendly. Much love
'Super Easy'
The most confusing part for me is pricing... Idk what to charge others and I don't know what pay others for items. What if all mats are provided?
You missed the part of lvling your prof to get it
always such a big help kelani! thanks !
which addon tells the reagents value at 12:25 ?
Great content per usual and I love that the video is 13:37 minutes long. 😊
Elite 😂
I put 50 knowledgepoints in wrong thing. First time trying to craft. Could not reset points, deleted the profession and ragequit. Atleast let me reset once as a new crafter..
Theres literally a giant warning saying you wont be able to reset.
One of the big reasons why I hate the revamped professions with a passion.
@@nmc400I think that's stupid because that doesn't let you try out new things or to adapt to the market. Maybe let us restart our trees and in return we lose all our points but not letting us to restart is an inconsiderate feature.
The warning doesn't make the thing you're being warned about any better. @@nmc400
@@elodrecsanyi7622 I think thats kinda the point, the market would be all over the place if people were swapping about but it don't feel good thats for sure
Why doesn’t Blizz just add the “required rank” dropdown to public orders, like is there when placing personal and guild orders?
probably because they want personal orders to still be a thing. I imagine most people would just always public order if you could set quality
Because they want everyone to have a chance for crafting orders and not just the best skilled. So the newbie who started late can do something.
@@warlock3691 that's not how this works/the system works... if people need quality 5, they are now inconvenienced and need to seek out crafters. they are not just going to drop it in a public order so some random can craft it rank 1 and waste tons of gold of the person putting up the order. the less skilled crafters do not get the craft regardless, if they can't actually max rank it (or at least go for rank 4). you don't have a single crafter and actually don't interact with the systems outside of buying your crafts, do you?
don't talk crap if you're absolutely clueless. thank you.
Because that would make too much sense :)
@@warlock3691 We have patron orders now. NPCs will give you plenty of work to level up your professions plus you will get KPs and Acuity from doing them. Easy peasy.
Great guide it helps! thanks mate
Is it possaible to use sparks from alts to make gear for your main?
nope :x
with the new crafting system. you can require a certain quality for your item in public orders and if the crafter cannot craft it at the quality you choose, the system wont still craft it.
Great video!!
Hey, can you do a video on how to get the most knowledge points? like i know from various videos that you can find some, buy some off vendors, etc. but would be a good reference the next time i go to look it up, cause i did it for one of my crafters then promptly forgot, and i know i missed some things on it even
Can’t upgrade any of the omen gear past 619 without 9s or mythic raid. Most people can’t even clear 5s. I’m stuck trying to get past 7s let alone getting in 9s
Have a solid guild to do these with good luck. Im definitely not going to put myself through that Hassel
I have done 10+ T8 Delves (different characters) and gotten 0 Runed Harbinger Crests what am i doing wrong to get them?
Ive done 8 and got 2, They are just extremly rare. You need 45 to upgrade to 619 xD This video should be called SUPER EASY ilvl 606
I am convinced he is being sponsored by blizzard and blizzard wants to make us believe things are way easier to get than they actually are. in reality blizzard needs to keep us grinding much much longer to keep playing the game.
I've never seen then drop and ive done 8 Tier 8s on 4 toons, The Hidden Troves from the map gave me gilded crest however. lol
@@thoriv420 if you want to pay 80-100k for crafted gear that's already out of date since the raid is open now.
It’s not rare I always get 2 doing 8s
Is there a catch-up mechanic for the keys you need for the delve chests?
Question about re-crafting. If i would got an Inscriber to craft a omen quality staff (which is 606), how can i go about re-crafting it to a higher tier with those enchanted runed crests?
Good luck. That's what I was hoping to find out here.
I used max level reagents, spark and enchanted runed crest and the crafter made me a rank 5 - 606 ilvl piece. The text on the runed harbinger crest says it's for 606-619. How can I get it to be 619 when it's already a rank 5? Shit is so confusing.
maybe I am missing something but running the quick maths and it looks like this would cost me nearly 80K to make a two handed weapon unless I invest significant time into my own professions, which seems really not worth the time or the gold unless you were already doing the crafting for your own enjoyment - am I crazy?
Only 80k? That sounds quite cheap to me. Depends ofc on what ilvl
@@ShadowsOfThePast in either regard, iit sounds extremely not worth the investment. Crafting seems extremely cost prehibitive unless you're already ballin.
@@soranyix2879 Yeah well ofc it depends how much gold people have. If one has 200k and it costs 80k then it's a lot but if someone has like 4 million then not that much. Also people sold the crafted legendary base items in SL for way more than 80k and that was just the base item.
I wouldn't pay 80k if I was buying it for some alt but for my main I could if I felt like it was a good deal. Prices will keep going down though the further we go into the season and ofc you can get good gear free too. Just that all the enchants etc are costly now too.
Like I'm an alchemist and I sold health potions (r3) for 400+ gold.. It's crazy to me but I don't complain as long as I do the selling..
@@ShadowsOfThePast I guess what I am getting at is that it's pretty disengenous to label all this stuff as easy. It's like celebrity rich kid easy, if you're already rich nbd.
@@soranyix2879 I wasn't saying it's easy I just tried to point out that the expensiveness of things is related to the funds that are available.
If I started to play WoW now from scratch I'd have to buy a WoW token for gold for sure or even more than one. But because I've played so long and haven't spent absurd amounts on random things I have accumulated a hood chunk of gold.
I also have alts for professions and I always tried to be self sustained..that became hard when they made professions feel a bit too much like an actual job
im specialising in other stuff as an engineer, but I want my engineering googles, so I'm going to try and get those, and hopefully, not to use head tier set, if not, the bracers as an engineer, is algo good :)
Thanks for the video
How do u find someone to craft for you? I post in trade chat but no one ever replys
I returned to retail last week, and managed to get my 4th spark yesterday, I wondered how I'd managed to gain so many so quickly, makes more sense now knowing about that catchup mechanic!
you actually have 2, not 4 - read the tooltip on the item ;)
You have four fragments that can turn into two. Everyone should only have two sparks right now
Bro got 4 sparks already💀
Quick questions.. Is it possible to get an item crafted higher than ilvl 606 through crafting order? If that is so, do I need to specify that I want them to use enchanted gilded crest? I just got a rank 5 with the correct materials crafted, but its only 606. I told him I wanted the highest ilvl possible
Mister super easy, how many 636 itrems do you have after 4 weeks?
Question, do i NEED to get gear crafted/craft gear to keep up? Or can running m+ and raids be just as good?
If i do a weekly on my main but then do same weekly on an alt will that alt also be able to get a shard of omen or no?
What is the fastest way to acquire knowledge points for crafting?
So im in limbo. My ilvl is 591. I can't do delves at T8 anymore. I just die. Yesterday i was able to clear 5 T8'swithout any bigger problems. They must have hotfixed delves cuz now its impossible, as solo and as group with healer and tank.
Heroic dungeons dosent give me any upgrades. So that leaves me to just farm valor.... Spamming world quest and Heroics.
Very boring imo.
What you mean u can't do delves with a group? They're not that hard at all
@@boretyy Blizz hot fixed them for groups and over buffed mobs/damage. Last i heard they are working on fixing it, soon :D
They broke them yesterday and fixed them this morning, about 80% of attacks are toned down now. I cleared up through 11 today.
Do m0 lol
just chill and wait for m+ no need to rush
I've done many bountiful delves and have yet to get a single delve map.
I had a problem: as dk, I need to reforge my weapon from 619 to 636 but the forged mate, say me that is a problem with runeforge enchant. As I know, there is no way to remove it but just overwrite. Do u have any solution I can try for that?
i cant change my fractured spark of omens to spark of omens, says im missing valorstones
My strategy is to get cloaks or jewelry crafted, because I never win the roll off for those in LFR lol
I always do neck, ring, and cloak first as a crafting order. Then weapons, equipment.
Lol super easy, ya the fractured sparks maybe 2 or so a week, have not converted any 9 weeks after launch and only have 11 on my main, so to make a 597 base weapon will cost me 4 fractured sparks, 500 valorstones and acquiring 2 rare items from leather working but I can upgrade a 597 item to 610-613 with the same amount of valorstones. The profession route for attaining viable usable gear has never been and probably never will be a key way to get gear. Hey guys look at the 636 item I have while all my other slots are at 580 and my GS is 584 cause I spent all my stones making sparks for this one awesome piece.
I tried. Honestly. Tried to understand how professions works. But this is just way too complicated.
Skill issue
I just got back into wow and it’s pretty basic 😂
PROFESSIONS HAVE NEVER BEEN MORE SHEIT
@_Travey this is anything but basic compared to classic style. Professions dont need to have 13 systems inside one prof. Its clunky. Its ugly. Its stupid af.
Well that's just your opinion man.
For others this is pretty easy, I even learned how this works back in dragonflight just playing the game, no explanation needed. Is super intuitive
So you can get the delve maps from the regular blue chests at the end of delve runs ? Besides running into the random (butcher ) like boss in the delve, Cause I did find one that way .
Dunno why they made the light blue question marks so hard to see, there was no reason to change them from last season
Think you might have a vision impairment.
The max I can get from a crafted order with sparks is 606, not 636.
because you are using weathered crests and not runed or gilded
That's normal. The base spark craft at rank 5 is 606.
You need to recraft the item with an Enchanted Crest (optional reagent) to get it to 626 (Runed) or 636 (Gilded).
Right now these are hard to acquire, but once M4+/M9+ and Heroic/Mythic raids become more accessible, you'll have plenty
I love how the vids just happens to be 13:37
Soulsobreezy's latest is also that long, I suspect a content creator in-joke
Super easy, barely an inconvenience. Only have to deal with the massive toxicity that comes with +8 keys. Or you know, run 90 delves
so the catch up shards, can you get the same amount of them as someone who's been playing every week from release?
I would like to know
Also wanna know if it’s even worth it to invest in this gear so late
if you drop your proffession after you put the knowledge points, what happens when you go back to it? does anyone know?
The blue world quest wont show up if your campaign isn't done. So so incredibly stupid I cant catch up in lvl 80 gear while doing the campaign. I hit lvl 77 before i even made it to hallowfall.
only has to be done on 1 char. and the campaign really doesnt take long. you dont have to do all the side quests. just the main story line
936 crafted gear are not designed for casuals. You will need to farm tons of gilded crest which you can only get at the end of heroic raid, mythic raid, mythic+ 8 above. Yes you can get 2 pieces by doing delves only "IF" you are lucky to get a delvers map which rarely drops and yet you only fucking get 2 pieces of gilded crest while you need 90 to craft one piece of 936 gear
Daily quests are from 80 ? I'm 73 lv now and Brann doesn't have q for me .
Also , is the Toy remembrance stone, ( once made ) soulbound ? I want to make it for my best friend.
Can you craft a 636 piece and then transform it into a tier set item with the transform guy/machine? Or is craftable gear not transformable?
I think you can
Professions are useless unless you spam trade chat all day. Im 100 enchanting and alchemy, and ive burned hundreds of thousands of gold leveling them, and the mats are more expensive than the final enchant/potion/flask. Absolute waste.
That almost certainly means you are not yet optimally crafting the thing you are trying to make. You need to specialise, use the correct (and upgraded) profession tools and gear, and possibly finishing reagents. Also thanks to things like Resourcefulness and Multicraft, Its also not as easy as Cost to make 1 item < sale value of 1 item. The true profit is often derived from the average of 100's or even 1000's of crafts.
@@DjinnWraith Bro that sounds like tons of hours of farming, playing the ah, min maxing, not to mention alll those knowledge points require AA for the books which they trickle to you through rep and patron orders which are skyhigh.
@@richiepipes8960 You do not need to "MAX" out all the tree's, only the parts of the tree that affect what you are trying to craft. And yes, the system is purposely designed like that to FORCE you to specialise in early/mid-game into 1 or 2 types of crafts per profession per character.
And YES, I 100% agree, it is a LOT of work, a lot of reading, a lot of understanding what affects what. Blizz making lots of work for content creators to make guides for us mere mortals who maybe don't have 20 hours a day to throw at the game :D
All I was really saying before was that, just because its not profitable for you, doesn't mean its not profitable for anyone else. It just means you need to put more effort into making it profitable. (Or do something else to make your gold). Sadly thats the best I can offer you.
I agree, it's a bit of a horrible system, especially with how complicated and confusing it has become. I personally am not a fan at all. But there is no shortage of guides and youtube videos walking you through how to do a particular thing profitably.
You are so articulate at breaking down these professions and while you are one of the best at it, it still confuses me. That’s how complicated the system is now.
no. nononononono. Wait for mythic week, get a decent good track mythic non-tier tier slot piece, and flip it to a maxed out myth track tier piece. This is the way.
If you wnat Crests from Delves it will take you AGES. I did 8 lvl8 delve so far and got exacly 2 Runed Harbinger Crests.... What do i need for 619? 45?
I swear the drop rate is either bugged or tied to your overall ilvl.
yup, 45 runes to get the nascent, and 90 (???) gilded
Crests drops much more in raids and m+.
In 1 month you will have tons without using them
We need to be able to respec the craft talentd
Where can you see the sparks ? I did the quest and received 100 , now after turning it in l see no sparks . I am a lvl 100 JC Ty
You need a shitload of gold tho right ? 😁 thanks that was the most understandable one i watched !
I honestly dont know what to do..
Stuck on 576.
Done 10+ heroic dungeons, nothing..
Did lfr, nothing..
No lfg groups accept people under 590.....
Same on my ww monk, my rogue is 606. It seems if you miss the boat in the beginning its torture to catch up. 😊
I made 590 gear from crafting (use the nascent weathered crests, not sparks) then did T8 delves and got some 606 gear from there. I'm now doing m0 (597)
Just start your own group?
@@affirazer i did, people just left after inspecting, saying to get more gear first instead of dragging them down. Before even 1 fight
@@Zepulchure then you could try Something Like "575 slow group". Fact is you are behind right which is really punishing for dps
You can get up to 590 without any Sparks! You just need to convert those crests and have them crafted into a special crest material by an Enchanter (use the crafting order) and then you can have a crafter make the item with your crest material included, and at max crafting Tier, it should be 590 (sounded a little more simple in my head lol)
I don’t even know where to get the recipes for these epics. I have found a few vendors and bought what I could but now I’m just sitting on recipes for weapons my paladin can’t use.
The acquisition of these gilded and rune crests via delves is morbidly slow. You’d have to run them at nauseating pace to get anything substantial.
Easy as Pay to WIN!
Just focus bountiful delves and farming keys for them. And farm mythic instance not as hard as it use to be i just came back from BFA. And always do your weekly quest.
This crafting system is so garbage, how did it make it into the next expansion
The worst thing about professions is the fact that the crafting order system is not cross realm. If you play on a low pop server you’re screwed
Guild crafts are cross server so if you find someone in your guild or otherwise find someone on another server you can join their guild to get the crafting order filled. It's still dumb u have you do this for a workaround but at least it's there until Blizz gets their shit together
Is any crafted gear actually better than free bop gear?
Probably because you can customise the stats and add embellishment to it and soulbound gear you can't.
@@ShadowsOfThePast you convinced me. I'll make it next reset
@@Michaelkayslay I was convinced by watching some content creators. I think just the fact you can choose the "best" stats for your char is really good. And basically if one would need to change the stats or craft the item on a higher ilvl they could just do a re-craft order for which u need way less mats than the actual craft.
@ShadowsOfThePast yeah gonna make couple of weapons for my main and alt
did you not say a word about PVP ? can I use this spark for PVP gearing ? all in groups I see alot of " SPARKS FARM" is it that what they talk about ?
Sparks farming is for the pvp quest, it's not the same as crafting sparks
@@Jyrgeeni ahh .. retail is so confusing
Nah, honestly this is madness. This could just show the item and required mats. So for 636 you need these items ETC. And easy second auction house. Its madness to run around trying to understand the persons profession of whom is going to craft!. MADNESSS!
I like the gear crafting and slots but if it takes months to get a hold of. It's pretty much useless. Nobody wants to farm that long, by the time the new update rolls around.
How do I reset my tailoring crafting points?
You don't.
i wish i could play all the time so i could have all the time to do even the leveling of all the characters let alone do the crafting building.....to bad im lucky to get a couple hours a night to do anything....
Hey kelani, this is folks
5:07 lol what realm is this? Max pop? I'm on Shu'halo and spotting a crafter lfw is like spotting BigFoot. I will never understand why Blizz doesn't allow for min quality on public orders. People have said it's because "everyone will always ask for tier 5 quality." Ofc. Why wouldn't they? "That will keep others from getting work." Blizz introduced patron (NPC) orders so everyone is able to get work.
I have had some success with putting in public crafting orders, not including _any_ mats or tip, and then in the "note to crafter" section, I tell them to send me an in-game mail if they can make max level and what their commission is. This way I don't have to spam trade looking for a crafter. I can post my message where they will see it and then go play the game.
Can you put crafted gear in catalyst?
Unfortunately no. He mentions that at 12:26
How many sparks r available atm I’m stuck on 1.5
Should have 2 with this weeks fragment, there’s a quest that requires two delves to be completed and that rewards a weekly fragment
i love how the vid takes 13:37 good one ❤
Why would someone waste a Sparkle of Omens, a Item that you get twice a month, to create a 606 item? You can get one 603 on tier Delve and upgrade it if you want an 606 so badly. But you can say ''Oh, you can upgrade later on this item to a 619 with 45 Harbinger''. Dude, with 45 Harbinger you can upgrade a Heroic or even a Champion gear.
Just dont waste your Sparkle yet.
I don't even know where those sparks come from exactly. they are like deeply hidden in the 1000 quests this game has (my questlog is full and i regularly need to remove a few quests from it to make room for some quest i cant accept because it is full). and you can perfectly play for months without ever seeing any.
They come from the weekly blue spikey quest. You get 1 a week, so every 2 weeks you can make a spark
This crafting system is the worst thing they added in a while.. you literally have to waste 100K gold for nothing. Idk why we have this when we have set items already. Should be just removed all together.
The market is a mess, there's no legit return of investment atm. Maybe for pro players who have all the time to gather and farm mats
I understand that this may not be your fault, but this is just so confusing. Why do they have to make it so hard to do things. You have to get these special sparks to build your clothes/armor. Then you have to get more sparks to make one spark and you need lot of them to build what you want. You also have to get the parts of a spark from special quests. If you do not have the skills to make what you want you then have to find someone to build it for you or ask somebody in your guild. About then I gave up listening to what you were saying, as I was overwhelmed already. I understand that I am old, so I am guessing that being old is my problem. I almost always learn at least one thing from your video's so I will stay subscribe to them, I guess I wish that there was somebody out there that could explain some of this to people that do not learn as fast as others. I know that there are a lot of older people that play this game. By older I am talking 60's and 70's and up. We have been playing this game from almost to beginning.
"Just find the recipe" 😂😂😂
Man I haven’t played War Within since I finished the campaign , I logged in last night and got completely overwhelmed within 5 mins and logged right back out.
Just pick something to do and do it.
I just kinda feel like I don’t know what to do, I was deep in dragon flight , heroic raiding and mythic plus, doing my weekly’s, I just don’t really know where shit is at this expan, all the weekly quest and stuff
@@zachrogersss to me DF felt like that, every npc in the main city has a quest, every building looks the same shitty navigation for the new flying style. dont even think I made it far enough to unlock fligthstones as a currency
@@zachrogersss If you played DF then it's all the same, there is nothing new except for the addition of delves which are stupidly overtuned and unbalanced especially their reward this early on.
Just follow the big quest markers to do weeklies you will catch up, and go play dungeons, raid just like before. I skipped DF completely so image what it felt like seeing all these systems at once, but it's all pretty straight forward once you get started.
Not sure how you all get overwhelmed.. If you care about PvE look at your vault and pick a category and complete it: Dungeons or Delves or Raid
If you like PvP then do PvP get honor gear and hit arenas, If you want to level your profession then do that look up a guide it took me like 5 min to understan.
Comissioning Crafting is a bit convoluted but before I took a long break from wow all professions ever did was that each spammed their best options on the market at least now you have to make some friends in the "business" because not everyone will have maxed crafting for everything
This is another job (but in game) lmao....
awesome
Just wish blizzard would scrap the hole crafting system sux so bad all I do now is just have gathering to sell because it’s so sucky
thats if you can complete a lvl 8 delve, im getting smashed in 7s
"Super easy just do like 30 +9 dungeons"
And all it'll cost you is one wow tokens worth if gold!
Struggling find world bosses 😅
I love that the vid is 13:37 😉