I'm no Lonzo fan, but the media (and Lavar through the media) made Lonzo into this great rookie sensation. Now, the media is tearing him down. Looks like Lonzo is just trying to figure it all out.
kanimo24 But the media didn't have to entertain him. I certainly understand why they would, but they basically helped Lavar build his brand. Stephen A., Skip, Cowherd, Chris Broussard...all those guys were hyping up Lonzo before he ever set foot in the NBA. Now, they're calling him a bust for not living up to the hype they helped build up.
Lavar sacrificed Lonzo's natural development to promote their brand. Because he talked so much trash, his brand got a lot of exposure, but Lonzo is now suffering the consequences.
My 2k player started out as a 65 and avg 8.ppg on 32% shooting, 1.1 apg and 5 rpg. It took me 2 days to realize I need 20 dollars from my paycheck to get my player on track. If my player can get out of it than Lonzo can get out if it
Awesomiser D O I don't think he'll be a bust but the question will he be a potential hall of framer and that's looking like a no. SAS right I see no fire nothing just going though the motions
NBA Snapchat & Instagram you sound utterly stupid the lakers are the worst three point shooting team in the league I would say them assists are much harder than you think
Still how many players can you averaging 9 Points, 7 assists and 7 rebounds or higher? Russell Westbrook, LeBron, Ben Simmons. Scoring is the most important aspect of basketball and he's trash at it so obviously he's gonna look bad. Lonzo is special. Just give him time.
Mind of the North Star you sound so dumb you know how many players get the same amount of mins as Lonzo but not even close to him in rebounding and assists
rofl why should the players love him? Do you even know why this show keeps going? Coz this is a joke but we need some entertainment around here coz it's all about entertainment anyways. so OF COURSE HIS GONNA TALK some SHIT DRAMA
Lord Frieza Christ Resurrected That's his personality. You want him to be something that he's not. You should know this reference that I'm about to say. This is like when gohan was getting his ass whooped by cell, and piccolo, & others was telling goku, he's not a fighter like you. This is just like that. Everyone thinking lonzo is weak, and aint built for this. But Watch when lonzo snaps and goes super saiyan 2 on the league. Lol
SAS needs to stop calling everyone class personified. Curry is, sure, but Durant can’t have that label after the whole burner account shit talking situation.
The Viper Of Death how is curry any more cocky than LeBron or Westbrook. On the court they get cocky but who cares, off the court they are class act citizens
127-123 Overtime. Lonzo 15 points, 10 assist. 3/7 for 3s. cough cough. Max actually knows what he's talking about. I think Stephen A hates Lonzo. Every single time he talks about Lonzo, it's always negative followed with "I don't hate him but....."
"who cares about the statline the only stats that matter are the W's at the end, as long as he gets the W i dont care if he scores 0" - Lavar Ball when Lavar talks that shit, you guys ride his dick..however when Lonzo gets dealt an L but puts up 15 points, you guys still wont get off Lonzo dick.............i just dont get it
v2 Shifty fox only plays like a few more minutes less than lonzo and he has a higher usage rate than lonzo. Plus he's started a few games. His shooting is barely better than lonzo's and he's not putting up lonzo's numbers other than scoring. They'll be alright just chill tf out.
Does anyone else have this feeling that Steph is just going to play against Lonzo like he would anyone else. Like he doesn't really care about all the hype around this match up
Ingram’s rookie season was trash D Lo’s rookie season was trash Embiid was injured his rookie season Oladipo has a trash rookie season Michael Kidd Gilchrist had a trash rookie season All of these guys are 2nd picks. Lonzo is playing like a 2nd pick
Max was on point...GS just won in OT. Lonzo's defense is getting better by the week. He was a little more aggressive tonight but still not enough. He's gonna get better.
I'm sorry SAS but 9 7 7 isn't a bust. Yeah his scoring percentage is shit but he stuffs the stat sheet offensively. in his first 20 games he has more triple doubles than most players who play for 10 years.
Triple doubles are an overrated stat and is a terrible argument to support lonzo not being a bust. Lonzo plays I believe 33+ minutes a game and for those minutes plus the fact that he’s 6’6 with a 40 inch vertical and running the point he should be able to get triple doubles.
He's not a bust, just not a good player. He's painfully average. He's averaging those numbers but is shooting horribly and lacks the proper aggression. You look at other rookies right now and a better half of them are putting up great numbers as well but the thing that separates them from Lonzo is that they look like they want it every night. Lonzo just plays like meh.
Tripple doubles are not that impressive when they are not correlating with wins. Even Westbrook's TDs last year weren't that impressive to me when he was winning and so says others. And also 9/7/7 would be alright if his shooting percentages weren't garbage. He misses so many times that his inefficiency is just as bad as how well he passes. So possessions Might as well cancel each other out. If those were an efficient 9 points, I think there would definitely be less complaining and most would be more patient. But regardless, in no world should this ⬇⬇⬇ ______________________ MPG | FG% | 3P% | FT% 32.9 | 30.9 | 24.5 | 42.9 ------------------------------------- be acceptable. At least if he misses shots, he should be able to make free throws. Those are FREE POINTS!
Ok I get y’all don’t like Lonzo but come on now his shooting percentage is utterly garbage but he’s a top 30 defender and he’s averaging 9 points 7 rebounds and 7 assists that’s not a bust if you ask me now if your comparing his expectations to his stats then you have more than a solid reason to call him a bust but if your strictly looking at him as a rookie his stats are better than a dude in Memphis getting 100 million and if I recall Stephen A called BI a bust last year now look at him I’m just saying chill out with the bust comments because he’s not everyone’s path to greatness is different
Lil Dagga chandler parsons b4 his injuries was really good hes 6'10 with leg issues. Lonzo ball will mever be as good as a gealthy chandler parsons b4 the injuries. N he is a bust being the 2nd pick in the draft n wont start in the rookie soph game thats bad
Lil Dagga take a look back at the box score against the bulls n tell me u dont see a bust. The bulls are damn the worst team in nba n he didnt put up any stats
I’m still wondering why the media is talking about a rookie who got hyped up by his biased father lmaoooo Let my mans live, he’ll figure it out once he gets his feet wet
Steven a acts like lonzo isn’t a rookie 😂😂😂people act like he’s a 5 year vet playing like his. When his stats r better then draymond green this year. But no one talking about that lol
But Draymond actually wins, and contributes to those wins. Draymond Green is 100% better than Lonzo regardless of statistics. You can average 50/20/10 but if you don't win, it won't be as appreciated. Draymond can get a triple double every single night if he wanted to, but he knows his role.
I have no idea how people thinking you can just easily fix a shot. Especially a shot as mechanically bad as ball. Some players never become good shooters.
im tired of people like stephen a smith calling STeph Curry just a shooter and not a pure point guard... STeph Curry averaged 6 assists in his rookie year and Lonzo is averaging 7 assists this year.. Steph Curry is just as much of a point guard as Lonzo, even if shooting his still his best skillset..
Currys real position is SG, its what he played in college....his first 2-3 years in the NBA, Golden State tried to use him as an SG but he was too small so they moved him to PG........hes a SG thats forced to play PG because of his size....he only racks up those 6 APG because the Warriors are so damn hard to defend
immag530 You said: 'he only racks up those 6 APG because the Warriors are so damn hard to defend' .. Stop embarrassing yourself. You sound foolish. Curry is averaging 6.8 assists for his career, has the highest usage rate on his team and is clearly the primary ball handler for that team and has above average playmaking ability.. He averaged 9 assists in the Finals for God's sakes... On the depth chart, it states: Starting POINT GUARD: Stephen CUrry... Of course, Curry can play offball too and having Draymond and Iguodala as secondary ball handlers makes the offense less predictable and more dangerous.. Curry could bring up the ball every possession too like Lebron, Westbrook and CP3 but that defeats Kerr's team philosophy and the offense wouldn't be as lethal. Just because Curry has a different style than a traditional point guard does not mean he is not a point guard. That's like saying Cam Newton is more of a running back than a quarterback just because he runs more effectively than he passes..
I really want Lonzo to go out there and BALL the FUCK out against the warriors. I ain't no bandwagon I got the raptors on my mind, but it pains me to see Lonzo underperforming game after game after game.
I think all this scrutiny and struggle is good for him. Keeps him humble. If he overcomes, he’ll have a great career. I mean, Michael Carter Williams is still in the league right?
Lonza is a great playmaker and passer. He just needs to learn how to efficiently use his skills and learn when it's time for him to step up and lead the team
Why are you talking about him everyday? he is a 20 year old kid. I'm tired of Stephen A talking about a 20 year old every single day, and to the people hating in the comments, Lonzo makes more in a year, than you will make you're whole life, so who's the real winner?
What does another man income have to do with anything? Lmao are you really that insecure bruh. If the man is not playing up to the hype then he’s gonna get called out. Its that simple
Peter Barker I agree that he is subject to criticism, I am just saying that the criticism has taken overhand, I mean is Stephen A going to criticize him every time the lakers lose or lonzo has a bad game? I just don't get why Stephen A and so many others feel that it's necessary to hate on a 20 year old every single day
Kobe came off the benchfor two years(Lonzo starts), and the coach didnt play Kobe 32 minutes a game like Luke does with Lonzo.........nice try though, there is no comparison
immag530 I’m saying he’s a rookie they’re expecting him to be jordan in his first year that’s why I used Kobe as an example Kobe had high expectations as a rookie and overtime he developed into a one of the greatest to play no one judged him off his rookie season
There was no expectations for kobe . He aint get no burn , even got traded on draft day . Lonzo gotta work on his conditioning . 2 more years he will be like a rondo type point gaurd . Possibly better
Curry & Durant understand what it's like being a rookie in the NBA and knows how if feel to be shot down by sports reporters. Encouraging words is best here.
Some of yall wildin, this is Zo's FIRST season. You can't call a bust this early...... What were they saying about Curry when he first entered the NBA? Give him time 😴
Love how everyone is quick to criticise lonzo ball when he shot just under 50% from the field against the warriors whilst dearron fox shoots 2-10 fg against bucks and doesnt hit a 3...
Finally someone was objective about Lonzo... Thank you Max. All people focus on is negatives, so what if he can't shoot? His shot will eventually fall, but how about all the other things he's doing? He's pushing the tempo, rebounding, defending, getting guys lots of shots... People seem to forget he's a rookie
Lonzo can't score to save his life, but his overall game is nice. If he could improve that jumper and learn to score the ball decently he'll have a nice career as a backup PG for some good teams.
Robert Berguer that is the weirdest thing because he makes like what 100 3pts a day when he was home in Chino Hills so i don't get it..Lavar said they did that all his life..unless he's lying
he could be exaggerating, but that's beside the point. Making 100 3pts a day in your backyard isn't really gonna translate to successful shooting in the NBA. Especially with that broken jump shot form he's got.
+Christopher Christie making "100 3 pointers a day at home in Chino Hills" dont mean shit man....you do know Shaq used to force himself to make 200 a day for a while right?????? how did that work out for him???? lol
At this point I've heard every excuse. Yall don't want to accept that he's overhyped sooo bad that yall are willing to say scoring doesn't matter, lmao wow. The Lakers did not sign him for $30 million, hand him the keys to the franchise and playing him 35 mins a game for this level of production having the worst shooting% in the league.
Phaze-1 Fab in college he was an average scorer. I don't watch college basketball and even I knew that. They knew what his game was when they got him. People not in the know, like yourself, just scream bust at first chance. Ingram was supposed to be the #1 scorer this season
BTG First of all I nvr called him a bust. I said he's overhyped which isnt even a discussion. 2nd If he was average and everybody knew that, then he wouldn't have beeen the #2 overall pick. How stupid is that. You don't select a rookie #2 for being fucking average, you select them in hopes they can lead your franchise which is what the Lakers did because they got dooped by Lavar like the rest of Lonzo stans. Yall act like Lonzo not scoring is the only problem he has. He's doesn't play defense and he has no aggression. These are not the expectations the Lakers and everybody had for him to be playing like this Idc about college this is the NBA get your head out Lonzo's ass and watch the games bruh
Phaze-1 Fab He is ranked 29th in defensive consistency rating. 29 out of the 450 players in the NBA right now. Also, he was drafted that high to be a facilitator. Magic clearly said he wanted a pass first guard and not a score first. That’s one of the reasons he packaged Russell with Mozgov in the trade. Also, Lonzo has a double double and Ingram dropped 32 against GS and took them to overtime without Kuzma.
Phaze-1 Fab I agree he’s over hyped but he’s got a lot on his shoulder and he doesn’t want to disappoint he’s never struggled like this before so it’s a learning process but when he figures it out he’s going to one hell of a player let’s not for get he’s 1 point 3 rebounds and 3 assists away from averaging a triple double
Funny, as im watching this, the game goes to overtime and Lonzo is playing better and shooting better then Steph. Who would have thought that before the game lol. Lonzo will get it together in the end and Kellerman is right. Stephen A becomes more of a drama queen with his concerns. He aint a bust, his shot is just awefull and not falling. If it was that his shot was awefull and he shot over 50% Stephen A would be in love with this kid. Smh
Trenton Thomas he did the first 3 quarters. And a fact is they all say he is a bust, wich he isnt. Lakers just lost by 4 points in OT against a 3 time finalist and 2 time champs. Lmao
I don't know, the last 3 years everyone has said the Lakers will lose their first game against the Warriors and then somehow manage to win anyway lol. Kerr called it last season their annual beat down at the staples center. I don't think they will win with that said, but I didn't think they'd win any of those games before either.
Lonzo will outperform Curry tonight. Lonzo has been shooting poorly so far on purpose, he's been waiting until he faced off against Curry to show he can really hoop in this league. Lonzo is bigger than Curry so he can easily bully him. Lonzo will drop at least 35 tonight
+Jalen Woolfolk Agree. When he just came into the league he was the best passer on the warriors team as a rookie. After Steve Kerr established the off ball system his passing role became insignificant...
Stephen A Smith is so right on this and has always been. Max is just trying to hold to his position as always. Max is totally unwilling to admit he's wrong on anything no, matter what, he continues to hold his wrong analysis. The problem with Lonzo ball is his "motor," he doesn't seem to have the consistent drive and willingness to win that he needs in the NBA.
This baby should still be at UCLA playing ball and going to class this is all his greedy ass father's fault he is just not ready for the NBA yet in Mind, Body, nor Spirit!
Dwahn Denson finally someone is saying. Lavar declared him for the draft, he never wanted to leave that first year. That's what even pushed TJ Leaf to declare, they were gonna stay.
we agree the hype clouded his judgement hes just not ready for the nba mentally and his shot needs to be adjusted he should havee stayed in the ncaa for a few seasons if he doesnt show up soon he gonna be benched and eventually wont have a job but it was his choice to sign a nba contract
He already made history with 2 triple doubles... Chris Brousard threw out Jason and Gary Payton 1st 2 seasons stats... And they are legends... He's keeping pace, younger, and will get a lot better... He's a rookie and is younger than both of them were... The hype from his pops is where all the heat is coming from... Max is right on this 1... I wasn't impressed by Ingram stats last year either for a 2nd pick but he improved this year... Ball is the face of the Lakers hate it or love it...
Dlo had a better rookie season n he had the Kobe tour n that hole swaggy p thing there at no excuse 4 lonzo he’s going 2 be a bust n this is all going 2 blow up in Magic’s face cuz he mess up in trading dlo n not drafting Dennis Smith Jr or any one else we could of played dlo at the 2 n got Dennis Smith or another good rookie that came n worked out 4 them shit DSJ recorded he’s 48 inch vertical at the Lakers workout what more do u need 2 see that there were other players coming in that we’re better lonzo is going 2 get worse they need 2 bench him n start clarkson asap!!!
Amen Xavier ski Dlo averaging over 20 a game . He couldn’t do that shit in LA , the system over there in Brooklyn works for him . Brooklyn is actually decent this year with him better than most teams
TheKDogBrand You guys said the same thing about Wall and Kyrie. Players don't give a fuck about trying to show him up like the media thinks. It would have happened already.
I promise you, give Lonzo one year... once his first season is over with and he's comfortable in the NBA we're going to see a whole new beast. The mind is a very powerful thing and Lonzo possesses that. Patients, are you all forgetting that he's only 20?
Max has a way higher bball IQ than Steven A... Great, sensible insight. Lonzo can be a more athletic J. Kidd if he works on his game. His skill is exceptional
Why is everyone hating on Lonzo? Just cause his dad hyped him up dont mean you gotta hate him. Come on,he hasnt even completed his rookie season yet. Give him some time he might impress in the future
Wow, I'm actually on Max's side on this one. Lonzo really needs to fix that shot and we've been seeing that from day one that he"s been in a Laker uniform.
I'm no Lonzo fan, but the media (and Lavar through the media) made Lonzo into this great rookie sensation. Now, the media is tearing him down. Looks like Lonzo is just trying to figure it all out.
Trey Evans exactly
His dad did that.
kanimo24 But the media didn't have to entertain him. I certainly understand why they would, but they basically helped Lavar build his brand. Stephen A., Skip, Cowherd, Chris Broussard...all those guys were hyping up Lonzo before he ever set foot in the NBA. Now, they're calling him a bust for not living up to the hype they helped build up.
Lavar sacrificed Lonzo's natural development to promote their brand. Because he talked so much trash, his brand got a lot of exposure, but Lonzo is now suffering the consequences.
Megumi I agree.
My 2k player started out as a 65 and avg 8.ppg on 32% shooting, 1.1 apg and 5 rpg. It took me 2 days to realize I need 20 dollars from my paycheck to get my player on track. If my player can get out of it than Lonzo can get out if it
Michael Jokedan Not My Goat lmfao
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Michael Jokedan Not My Goat you're garbage if u buy vc 😂😂
Michael Jokedan Not My Goat oh why you really compared 2k to real life pro basketball 😂 I’m done
Imagine spending money on 2k
I'm sorry although his shooting% is beyond awful. He's still averaging 9 Points, 7 assists and 7 rebounds. There's no way he's a bust
Awesomiser D O I don't think he'll be a bust but the question will he be a potential hall of framer and that's looking like a no. SAS right I see no fire nothing just going though the motions
NBA Snapchat & Instagram you sound utterly stupid the lakers are the worst three point shooting team in the league I would say them assists are much harder than you think
I fuck with lonzo but the Lakers playing 4 on 5
Still how many players can you averaging 9 Points, 7 assists and 7 rebounds or higher? Russell Westbrook, LeBron, Ben Simmons. Scoring is the most important aspect of basketball and he's trash at it so obviously he's gonna look bad. Lonzo is special. Just give him time.
Mind of the North Star you sound so dumb you know how many players get the same amount of mins as Lonzo but not even close to him in rebounding and assists
And this is why NBA players don't like Stephen A Smith. He's always putting words in players mouths.
exactly they meant what they said
TripleX2600 no bs
rofl why should the players love him? Do you even know why this show keeps going? Coz this is a joke but we need some entertainment around here coz it's all about entertainment anyways. so OF COURSE HIS GONNA TALK some SHIT DRAMA
TripleX2600 For real
Even though they're looking out for him or throwing shade at him, they ain't admitting he sucks
Lonzo is washed because his attitude is nonchalant, he's playing like it's just a dead end job working at McDonald's
Facts😂😂😂
right LMAO
Lord Frieza Christ Resurrected
That's his personality. You want him to be something that he's not. You should know this reference that I'm about to say. This is like when gohan was getting his ass whooped by cell, and piccolo, & others was telling goku, he's not a fighter like you. This is just like that. Everyone thinking lonzo is weak, and aint built for this. But Watch when lonzo snaps and goes super saiyan 2 on the league. Lol
Mike Tank Brown ll that's a damn lie this nigga be hype as hell with his homeboys
Bkc 14
some people can turn up with stranger's, and some only turn up with people that they are close to.
SAS needs to stop calling everyone class personified. Curry is, sure, but Durant can’t have that label after the whole burner account shit talking situation.
Quire Sultan is the GOAT
Nicholas Williams and curry shouldn't have it after throwing his mouth guard at a ref 2 times, and ignoring that kid.
Or after calling westbrook a pussy
Scott Bennici - ehhhh Lebron shouldn’t have it for cursing at that ref last night. Basically what you are saying
The Viper Of Death how is curry any more cocky than LeBron or Westbrook. On the court they get cocky but who cares, off the court they are class act citizens
127-123 Overtime. Lonzo 15 points, 10 assist. 3/7 for 3s.
cough cough. Max actually knows what he's talking about. I think Stephen A hates Lonzo. Every single time he talks about Lonzo, it's always negative followed with "I don't hate him but....."
"who cares about the statline the only stats that matter are the W's at the end, as long as he gets the W i dont care if he scores 0" - Lavar Ball
when Lavar talks that shit, you guys ride his dick..however when Lonzo gets dealt an L but puts up 15 points, you guys still wont get off Lonzo dick.............i just dont get it
The Lonzo Ball Sports Network. LBSN.
People really need to look at some of these other rookies and actually see how their playing because they ain’t playing that much better than Lonzo
trevion sewell fax that nigga fox has been utterly GARBAGE
fox comes off the bench and he still puts up good stats lonzo starts and plays 33-35 mins will Fox plays 20-23 mins so dont start with fox
Ben Simmons is way better lonzo not even the best on his team Kuzma and Ingram are both better right now then zo
v2 Shifty fox starts now where tf have you been that’s not an excuse anymore and who cares Kuzma is playing better there both on the same team lmao 😂
v2 Shifty fox only plays like a few more minutes less than lonzo and he has a higher usage rate than lonzo. Plus he's started a few games. His shooting is barely better than lonzo's and he's not putting up lonzo's numbers other than scoring. They'll be alright just chill tf out.
Lonzo pisses me off it’s like he doesn’t care
Or maybe you just don't know what your talking about.
Does anyone else have this feeling that Steph is just going to play against Lonzo like he would anyone else. Like he doesn't really care about all the hype around this match up
Jemila Momoh why would he lol dudes a champ on a championship team
This draft class has so much talent but we talk about one rookie who is not playing like a number 2 pick
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National attention. Watch local sports shows for other rookies.
Chris Bard. Because lonzo bring in views you think Donovan Mitchell gonna bring in views?
Ingram’s rookie season was trash
D Lo’s rookie season was trash
Embiid was injured his rookie season
Oladipo has a trash rookie season
Michael Kidd Gilchrist had a trash rookie season
All of these guys are 2nd picks. Lonzo is playing like a 2nd pick
Wym fultz is shit cause his shoulder and Josh Jackson and fox aren't even starting so who really needs the coverage no one is playing as expected
Max was on point...GS just won in OT. Lonzo's defense is getting better by the week. He was a little more aggressive tonight but still not enough. He's gonna get better.
Damn this man Max was 100% accurate
I'm sorry SAS but 9 7 7 isn't a bust. Yeah his scoring percentage is shit but he stuffs the stat sheet offensively. in his first 20 games he has more triple doubles than most players who play for 10 years.
why didnt u add how many minutes hes average...cause he a bust
Big Ro -why are triple dbl the end all be all. Guy makes the shot his the hero. He's not shooting it well
Triple doubles are an overrated stat and is a terrible argument to support lonzo not being a bust. Lonzo plays I believe 33+ minutes a game and for those minutes plus the fact that he’s 6’6 with a 40 inch vertical and running the point he should be able to get triple doubles.
He's not a bust, just not a good player. He's painfully average. He's averaging those numbers but is shooting horribly and lacks the proper aggression. You look at other rookies right now and a better half of them are putting up great numbers as well but the thing that separates them from Lonzo is that they look like they want it every night. Lonzo just plays like meh.
Tripple doubles are not that impressive when they are not correlating with wins. Even Westbrook's TDs last year weren't that impressive to me when he was winning and so says others. And also 9/7/7 would be alright if his shooting percentages weren't garbage. He misses so many times that his inefficiency is just as bad as how well he passes. So possessions Might as well cancel each other out. If those were an efficient 9 points, I think there would definitely be less complaining and most would be more patient. But regardless, in no world should this ⬇⬇⬇
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MPG | FG% | 3P% | FT%
32.9 | 30.9 | 24.5 | 42.9
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be acceptable. At least if he misses shots, he should be able to make free throws. Those are FREE POINTS!
Ok I get y’all don’t like Lonzo but come on now his shooting percentage is utterly garbage but he’s a top 30 defender and he’s averaging 9 points 7 rebounds and 7 assists that’s not a bust if you ask me now if your comparing his expectations to his stats then you have more than a solid reason to call him a bust but if your strictly looking at him as a rookie his stats are better than a dude in Memphis getting 100 million and if I recall Stephen A called BI a bust last year now look at him I’m just saying chill out with the bust comments because he’s not everyone’s path to greatness is different
Lil Dagga chandler parsons b4 his injuries was really good hes 6'10 with leg issues. Lonzo ball will mever be as good as a gealthy chandler parsons b4 the injuries. N he is a bust being the 2nd pick in the draft n wont start in the rookie soph game thats bad
Lil Dagga take a look back at the box score against the bulls n tell me u dont see a bust. The bulls are damn the worst team in nba n he didnt put up any stats
Max has a great point, Lonzo has things you cant teach, But his shooting can be fixed
I’m still wondering why the media is talking about a rookie who got hyped up by his biased father lmaoooo Let my mans live, he’ll figure it out once he gets his feet wet
Steven a acts like lonzo isn’t a rookie 😂😂😂people act like he’s a 5 year vet playing like his. When his stats r better then draymond green this year. But no one talking about that lol
But Draymond actually wins, and contributes to those wins. Draymond Green is 100% better than Lonzo regardless of statistics. You can average 50/20/10 but if you don't win, it won't be as appreciated. Draymond can get a triple double every single night if he wanted to, but he knows his role.
I think they don't care lol who's worried about the Lakers?
Savanna Henry me.. I'm a Lakers fan
Lonzo 15 points 10 assist. Its a fuukin Double Double.
It ain't dat baaaad.
But when you shoot 20-30% percent, it IS bad. And Lonzo is a pass first point guard, he's always gonna get those assists
I have no idea how people thinking you can just easily fix a shot. Especially a shot as mechanically bad as ball. Some players never become good shooters.
I AGREE I was thinking the same when I heard them saying it
im tired of people like stephen a smith calling STeph Curry just a shooter and not a pure point guard... STeph Curry averaged 6 assists in his rookie year and Lonzo is averaging 7 assists this year.. Steph Curry is just as much of a point guard as Lonzo, even if shooting his still his best skillset..
Currys real position is SG, its what he played in college....his first 2-3 years in the NBA, Golden State tried to use him as an SG but he was too small so they moved him to PG........hes a SG thats forced to play PG because of his size....he only racks up those 6 APG because the Warriors are so damn hard to defend
immag530 You said: 'he only racks up those 6 APG because the Warriors are so damn hard to defend' ..
Stop embarrassing yourself. You sound foolish.
Curry is averaging 6.8 assists for his career, has the highest usage rate on his team and is clearly the primary ball handler for that team and has above average playmaking ability.. He averaged 9 assists in the Finals for God's sakes... On the depth chart, it states: Starting POINT GUARD: Stephen CUrry...
Of course, Curry can play offball too and having Draymond and Iguodala as secondary ball handlers makes the offense less predictable and more dangerous.. Curry could bring up the ball every possession too like Lebron, Westbrook and CP3 but that defeats Kerr's team philosophy and the offense wouldn't be as lethal. Just because Curry has a different style than a traditional point guard does not mean he is not a point guard. That's like saying Cam Newton is more of a running back than a quarterback just because he runs more effectively than he passes..
immag530 well that and he was the backup option for a prime monta Ellis
Don’t listen to what analysts say listen to players who have been through it and know what it’s actually like.
I really want Lonzo to go out there and BALL the FUCK out against the warriors. I ain't no bandwagon I got the raptors on my mind, but it pains me to see Lonzo underperforming game after game after game.
Continue speaking max
You got so much more to teach sas
he's just like his daddy gonna average 3 points lol
anthony cheesman double double
I think all this scrutiny and struggle is good for him. Keeps him humble. If he overcomes, he’ll have a great career.
I mean, Michael Carter Williams is still in the league right?
Rookie averaging 7 assists and 7 rebounds is a bust? 🤔
Lonza is a great playmaker and passer. He just needs to learn how to efficiently use his skills and learn when it's time for him to step up and lead the team
Why are you talking about him everyday? he is a 20 year old kid. I'm tired of Stephen A talking about a 20 year old every single day, and to the people hating in the comments, Lonzo makes more in a year, than you will make you're whole life, so who's the real winner?
alex gut 20 year old grown man
What does another man income have to do with anything? Lmao are you really that insecure bruh. If the man is not playing up to the hype then he’s gonna get called out. Its that simple
Walk in his shoes bitch, you cant lmao. Income does matter cuz he's living comfortable. When he fixes his shot talk shit after that lol
alex gut Lonzo is an athlete. Athletes are subject to criticism.
Peter Barker I agree that he is subject to criticism, I am just saying that the criticism has taken overhand, I mean is Stephen A going to criticize him every time the lakers lose or lonzo has a bad game? I just don't get why Stephen A and so many others feel that it's necessary to hate on a 20 year old every single day
ball had a good game, hustled a lot, defended. Good for him.
Kobe averaged 7.6 his rookie year was everybody calling him a bust because of the expectations put on him
Kobe came off the benchfor two years(Lonzo starts), and the coach didnt play Kobe 32 minutes a game like Luke does with Lonzo.........nice try though, there is no comparison
immag530 I get it but your missing the point.
immag530 I’m saying he’s a rookie they’re expecting him to be jordan in his first year that’s why I used Kobe as an example Kobe had high expectations as a rookie and overtime he developed into a one of the greatest to play no one judged him off his rookie season
immag530 just give him time to develop
There was no expectations for kobe . He aint get no burn , even got traded on draft day . Lonzo gotta work on his conditioning . 2 more years he will be like a rondo type point gaurd . Possibly better
Curry & Durant understand what it's like being a rookie in the NBA and knows how if feel to be shot down by sports reporters. Encouraging words is best here.
real question is will lonzo score 100 points this season
Max is on point. Totally agree
Some of yall wildin, this is Zo's FIRST season. You can't call a bust this early...... What were they saying about Curry when he first entered the NBA? Give him time 😴
Exactly this shit it getting old.
What were they saying about Curry? They were calling him ROY lol. Point taken tho
Lovy B Called him a bust because he wasn't quick or didn't have great court vision, but look at him now
Play Thomas Beats curry averaged over 15 points a game his rookie year 😂
FreshPrinceShaun nigga he averaged 11
Love how everyone is quick to criticise lonzo ball when he shot just under 50% from the field against the warriors whilst dearron fox shoots 2-10 fg against bucks and doesnt hit a 3...
lonzo 15+ tonight
Brian Hamilton Lonzo 15/10/2
Good call!
Very accurate
-8 +/-
Finally someone was objective about Lonzo... Thank you Max. All people focus on is negatives, so what if he can't shoot? His shot will eventually fall, but how about all the other things he's doing? He's pushing the tempo, rebounding, defending, getting guys lots of shots... People seem to forget he's a rookie
Lonzo can't score to save his life, but his overall game is nice. If he could improve that jumper and learn to score the ball decently he'll have a nice career as a backup PG for some good teams.
Robert Berguer that is the weirdest thing because he makes like what 100 3pts a day when he was home in Chino Hills so i don't get it..Lavar said they did that all his life..unless he's lying
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he could be exaggerating, but that's beside the point. Making 100 3pts a day in your backyard isn't really gonna translate to successful shooting in the NBA. Especially with that broken jump shot form he's got.
+Christopher Christie making "100 3 pointers a day at home in Chino Hills" dont mean shit man....you do know Shaq used to force himself to make 200 a day for a while right?????? how did that work out for him???? lol
Does muscle memory not mean anything then?
15 points, 3 for 7 from 3. Lonzo was not bad at all tonight. Ingram with 32 also.
Lonzo gonna ball out Tonight and watch SAS be on his nuts tomorrow
Even if it’s not tonight whenever he gets a good shooting night they will
Emmanuel James they didntt talk about him after his triple doubles because it takes away from sas's bust narrative.
Emmanuel James he's a bust
That would be interesting...
Emmanuel James lol he always does
He's a rookie that ain't aggressive, he just needs that certain player to get in his ear and motivate him
At this point I've heard every excuse. Yall don't want to accept that he's overhyped sooo bad that yall are willing to say scoring doesn't matter, lmao wow. The Lakers did not sign him for $30 million, hand him the keys to the franchise and playing him 35 mins a game for this level of production having the worst shooting% in the league.
Phaze-1 Fab in college he was an average scorer. I don't watch college basketball and even I knew that. They knew what his game was when they got him. People not in the know, like yourself, just scream bust at first chance. Ingram was supposed to be the #1 scorer this season
BTG Nigga That's College Lol. Way More Different Than The NBA
BTG First of all I nvr called him a bust. I said he's overhyped which isnt even a discussion. 2nd If he was average and everybody knew that, then he wouldn't have beeen the #2 overall pick. How stupid is that. You don't select a rookie #2 for being fucking average, you select them in hopes they can lead your franchise which is what the Lakers did because they got dooped by Lavar like the rest of Lonzo stans. Yall act like Lonzo not scoring is the only problem he has. He's doesn't play defense and he has no aggression. These are not the expectations the Lakers and everybody had for him to be playing like this Idc about college this is the NBA get your head out Lonzo's ass and watch the games bruh
Phaze-1 Fab He is ranked 29th in defensive consistency rating. 29 out of the 450 players in the NBA right now. Also, he was drafted that high to be a facilitator. Magic clearly said he wanted a pass first guard and not a score first. That’s one of the reasons he packaged Russell with Mozgov in the trade. Also, Lonzo has a double double and Ingram dropped 32 against GS and took them to overtime without Kuzma.
Phaze-1 Fab I agree he’s over hyped but he’s got a lot on his shoulder and he doesn’t want to disappoint he’s never struggled like this before so it’s a learning process but when he figures it out he’s going to one hell of a player let’s not for get he’s 1 point 3 rebounds and 3 assists away from averaging a triple double
great talk fellas
Funny, as im watching this, the game goes to overtime and Lonzo is playing better and shooting better then Steph. Who would have thought that before the game lol. Lonzo will get it together in the end and Kellerman is right. Stephen A becomes more of a drama queen with his concerns. He aint a bust, his shot is just awefull and not falling. If it was that his shot was awefull and he shot over 50% Stephen A would be in love with this kid. Smh
Lonzo was playing better, for three quarters
Steph was far better in the 4th and especially OT
salt is a way of life true true
You have lost your fucking mind if you think lonzo out played curry smh
Trenton Thomas he did the first 3 quarters. And a fact is they all say he is a bust, wich he isnt. Lakers just lost by 4 points in OT against a 3 time finalist and 2 time champs. Lmao
Curry was injured and gsw always lose to lakers some how lmao.
Steph 28 pts lonzo 15 pts and 10 assists. This game didnt get too ugly
Facts they are afraid to say that he’s trash smh
I don't know, the last 3 years everyone has said the Lakers will lose their first game against the Warriors and then somehow manage to win anyway lol. Kerr called it last season their annual beat down at the staples center. I don't think they will win with that said, but I didn't think they'd win any of those games before either.
They deadass always find a way to bring me up.... I'm finna patent my damn name
D'angelo is just chillin
Ricky rubio > lonzo
He played amazing against the warrior today
Lonzo will outperform Curry tonight. Lonzo has been shooting poorly so far on purpose, he's been waiting until he faced off against Curry to show he can really hoop in this league. Lonzo is bigger than Curry so he can easily bully him. Lonzo will drop at least 35 tonight
W as always for me
FACTS
DDG's Ass Eating Face #ImSavingMyselfForKennedy You're a dummy
Lakers played very well tonight.
#PrayForLonzo.
#EastAtlantaZ6 I’m praying for him to leave the nba 🙏🏽
Chris A We All Are 🙏🏽
Lonzo needs to improve immediately
Everytime yall want lonzo to get killed by a player, *THAT SHIT NEVER HAPPENS* 😂😂😂 why yall always want bull to fail
that nigga died first game of the season.....what Beverly did to him, many would call "murder"
had to pause in the beginning when KD and the phrase 'class personified' were in the same sentence
Damn molly you looking like a snack once again
*I remember when Stephen A got mad about Porzingis being drafted by the Knicks*
Switch Lonzo with Steph on the Warriors and they would be undefeated right now
#1 Thunder Fan
The Lakers, right?
#1 Thunder Fan noooo
Lmaoooo
#1 Thunder Fan warriors are that good I agree
Switch Steph and Russ and KD would've stayed in OKC
Y'all aint gonna mention that Max was pretty much on point with how the game went
STAY IN YO LANE
Max is right
Curry is a point guard as well lol what is he saying.
I guess he was talking about coming out of college, but Steph is an underrated passer, he could average 10+ assists if he wanted to
+Jalen Woolfolk Agree. When he just came into the league he was the best passer on the warriors team as a rookie. After Steve Kerr established the off ball system his passing role became insignificant...
Jalen Woolfolk right !! Curry courtvision is crazy good !
Stephen A Smith is so right on this and has always been. Max is just trying to hold to his position as always. Max is totally unwilling to admit he's wrong on anything no, matter what, he continues to hold his wrong analysis. The problem with Lonzo ball is his "motor," he doesn't seem to have the consistent drive and willingness to win that he needs in the NBA.
This baby should still be at UCLA playing ball and going to class this is all his greedy ass father's fault he is just not ready for the NBA yet in Mind, Body, nor Spirit!
Dwahn Denson L
Dwahn Denson finally someone is saying. Lavar declared him for the draft, he never wanted to leave that first year. That's what even pushed TJ Leaf to declare, they were gonna stay.
But he did want to go to the nba. I’m pretty sure that he said that he wanted to go to the nba while he was at college
Though it's still way too early in his nba career to call him a "bust," I agree with you. Another year or two in college could only have helped him.
we agree the hype clouded his judgement hes just not ready for the nba mentally and his shot needs to be adjusted he should havee stayed in the ncaa for a few seasons if he doesnt show up soon he gonna be benched and eventually wont have a job but it was his choice to sign a nba contract
He already made history with 2 triple doubles... Chris Brousard threw out Jason and Gary Payton 1st 2 seasons stats... And they are legends... He's keeping pace, younger, and will get a lot better... He's a rookie and is younger than both of them were... The hype from his pops is where all the heat is coming from... Max is right on this 1... I wasn't impressed by Ingram stats last year either for a 2nd pick but he improved this year... Ball is the face of the Lakers hate it or love it...
I wonder who will win 😈👿
Skeeter From Doug Lookin' Ass Nigga thanks for letting me know youre a horrible person.
Lakers have beat the warriors the last two seasons
Yung Slay but who will win tonight
Low-key the Lakers have beaten the warriors once every year or something like that but golden State obviously is favored and will most likely win
Raiders Cat i have the blazers in 6
Pressure bust pipes, his confidence is shook. Lavar needs to take a back seat, shot still broken but he'll overcome in my opinion.
Best Point Guard will exposed this Bust Point Guard
Anyone who can put up 9pts, 9rebs, and 9asts on any given night is no bust. I'm sure you have enough NBA knowledge to know this.
It's 9 7 7 dude, you creating ur own stats to Lonzo and there's so many rookies playing way better than this clown rapper
Kyle Crane. Bust I understand he shooting like shit but everything else is solid asf
Kyle Crane westbrook don't play him tonight
Randy H You meaning the guy whose team is under .500 & is shooting 40% from the field & 31% from the 3-point line? 🤣🤣
Can you give this man at least til the end of the season...
Dlo had a better rookie season n he had the Kobe tour n that hole swaggy p thing there at no excuse 4 lonzo he’s going 2 be a bust n this is all going 2 blow up in Magic’s face cuz he mess up in trading dlo n not drafting Dennis Smith Jr or any one else we could of played dlo at the 2 n got Dennis Smith or another good rookie that came n worked out 4 them shit DSJ recorded he’s 48 inch vertical at the Lakers workout what more do u need 2 see that there were other players coming in that we’re better lonzo is going 2 get worse they need 2 bench him n start clarkson asap!!!
The Villen DLo fits Better with Brooklyn tho
FreshPrinceShaun no he doesn’t gtfoh
The Villen So u want to bench lonzo and limit his growth.......make sense👌
Amen Xavier ski Dlo averaging over 20 a game . He couldn’t do that shit in LA , the system over there in Brooklyn works for him . Brooklyn is actually decent this year with him better than most teams
yo daddy lmfao🤣🤣🤣
LONZO WILL BE ONE OF THE GREATEST.
remember I told u that 💯
Lonzo Ball is a better athlete than Stephen Curry
I don't know what your smoking but mad look at whats happening to lonzo😂
Brandon McKnight Athletic not a better player
Your right lonzo can dunk Steph can't
Nah.
That’s not helping him score
George Hill 9pts 4rb 3ast 100 mil! Call me anything but broke!
Steph Curry dropping 60 points on Lonzo Ball tonight
other way around
Said he same about Wall
TheKDogBrand You guys said the same thing about Wall and Kyrie. Players don't give a fuck about trying to show him up like the media thinks. It would have happened already.
TheKDogBrand I hope he goes for 70 or 80+
Rene Perez Not happening.
obviously they are not going to say lonzo sucks. if they did that the media would crucify them
LaVar does the best marketing trick in history of sport ! They got theyrr signetures on tones of money ! And he just got in nba.
SAS debate % is lower than Lonzo's shooting % though.
Max's prediction came true haha except for the rebounds.
Simmons, Tatum, and DSJ are the best rookies by far
I promise you, give Lonzo one year... once his first season is over with and he's comfortable in the NBA we're going to see a whole new beast. The mind is a very powerful thing and Lonzo possesses that. Patients, are you all forgetting that he's only 20?
Lonzo at 1:11 got me dying 😂😂😂
Max has a way higher bball IQ than Steven A... Great, sensible insight. Lonzo can be a more athletic J. Kidd if he works on his game. His skill is exceptional
Aaron Campbell I legit was thinking this. SAS just be talking for no reason now.
Why is everyone hating on Lonzo? Just cause his dad hyped him up dont mean you gotta hate him. Come on,he hasnt even completed his rookie season yet. Give him some time he might impress in the future
Cant wait to see what they say now
SAS is a bigger headache than Lavar. Give the rookie a break.
SAS never brought up that Lonzo has 2 triple doubles
Max spitting that real ish
Espn: Stephen a smith reacts to lonzo making 3 threes.
Stephen a: lonzo the next magic johnson
Man Max kellerman is on point!
KD would call Stephen A. Smith a liar.
Cool.... I can deal with constructive criticism instead of bashing of this young man...👍
Definitely not a bust. Lonzo looking pretty good against the NBA champs.
Wow, I'm actually on Max's side on this one. Lonzo really needs to fix that shot and we've been seeing that from day one that he"s been in a Laker uniform.