The thing is, when stolas chose to save blitz, at what he believed would be at the cost of his own life, he did technically speaking, willingly choose blitzes life over being alive to raise his daughter. From a kids perspective, that's very understandable, in addition to his promise to Octavia to never leave her.
I love how Octavias song is a a version of you will be ok that Stolas sang in that episode when they went to looloo land, which was the same episode he promised he wouldn't run away from her
I like the nuance of Octavia's feelings Obviously she still loves her father, otherwise she wouldn't have saved him But she can no longer trust him, which, from her perspective, is understandable
It's also possible that she's pushing him away because she thinks he was suffering for her sake and she wants him to happy. Even if that's only her feelings deep down I still think it's part of it.
Even from the outside it's understandable. Remember the stars episode where Via went to LA? Stolas cared more about his hatred for Stella than Via. Sure it was a mistake, but one he must own up to. His decision to go through with the divorce effected Octavia. His decision to defended the imp that was the catalyst of the divorce and the subsequent punishment because of that was a choice Stolas made. It's bad enough to have your family fighting. It's bad enough to have one parent make choices that hurt you. But for that parent to be the one you don't want leaving you making decisions that leads to them leaving you hurts. The betrayal of trust and the feeling that the love they showed you may have been false. Oof.
It's really worth mentioning that Octavia has seen so very little of both Stolas and Blitz's character arcs that her reaction is pretty normal. Even in the bit just before her song she has her earbuds in and may not have even heard them say Stolas has been trying to contact her the whole time. It's primarily a misunderstanding but with what she's aware of it all adds up. I think they'll actually talk about things down the line.
21:04 The fanfiction-to-novel path is similar to how "The Forgotten City" went from an award-winning game mod to a standalone award-winning game. I personally love seeing the fanwork-to-original dynamic happen.
The food themed outfits of Loona and her friends, is because hellhounds are all naturally birthed in the Gluttony ring, M&M are both denizens of Wraith, and while I believe Blitz is also born a wrathian, he believe he was raised in the Greed ring, hence the Mammon cap on top of the tree.
Episode 5 of season 1 ("Wrath ... I've never really been" and episode 4 of season 2 ("I'm not from Wrath") tell us Blitz is not from Wrath but we don't know what his birth sin is but someone pointed out he said you can celebrate whichever sin you like and he did set his home and coat on fire (maybe meaning his greatest sin in his eyes is the fire in the circus he caused)
With regards to Octavia, I experienced a nasty divorce between my parents and it was right around Octavia's age that I had nothing but trust issues and one parent was like Stolas, suffering in silence while the other was willing to "give everything" I wanted, but what that meant was giving me free reign, so of course that parent feels like a free vacation, the problem was how much one sided lies I was fed by said "vacation' parent, it took from the time I was 18 until almost 23 to realize just how awful of a mistake I was making and coming to my senses allowed me to reconcile with the other parent what amazed me was how the one parent I treated so poorly and said so many awful things because of the lies I was fed, they still forgave me and welcomed me like I had never left that house. It's basically a lack of true understanding and perspective, (also why the episode made me tear up because It was like watching my early adult years play out via another character)
Regardless of how fucked up it is, stolas did ultimately choose blitz over octavia, he went and saved blitz knowing full well he would be punished, hell he thought he was gonna be executed meaning he would never see octavia again, so either A he thought about octavia and still chose to (in his mind) die for blitz and leave octavia all alone, or B the thought of octavia never even entered his mind and he was solely focused on blitz.
Funny fact about the horse thing: The reason Blitz is so into horses is because Brandon (Blitz's VA) HATES horses, so its become an in-joke at his expense
Loved this episode, also mybe I'm remembering earlier episodes wrong but I remembering Octavia being there when Solis and her mom would argue aggressively and threaten each other
She was around when Stella confronted Stolas about sleeping with an Imp. In the same episode where Stolas swore he would never leave her behind to be with Blitzo. Yeaaaaaah, Stolas done fucked up. All hope is not lost, but it will take great effort to fix this.
Octavia has known that stollas has suffered and been miserable with Stella, but because he chose happiness instead of the fake happiness he gets from pills, Octavia views it as leaving her, when he's never chosen to do, other around him have pushed him to be exiled or killed. Octavia has accepted blitzo and stollas' relationship before, but it's now again a problem because Stella is keeping her away from her father, but instead of blaming Stella, she blames stollas... yeah, Octavia is always one step forward 3 backward.
Not only are those cookies sort of meant to be modeled after Blitz, M&M and Stolas. But I like to think they're also modeled after the Horses of the Apocalypse
Specifically she labels Blitzo as Stolas's "Shitty" or "Slutty" boyfriend. Too unclear to tell, but both of those fit. She doesn't seem to hold any specific animosity towards Blitzo, so I'm going with slutty.
Octavia’s PoV of the story is that her mom and dad would fight a lot, he eventually cheated on her with an imp, divorced mom for that imp, and then gave up his status and house to live with the Imp. Of course the poor teen is hurt and angry at her father, even without her mother’s influence.
it seems to me like Octavia is not liking any of her parents, her mother is doing herself no favors by acting so petty, Octavia has truly become alone, it would not surprise me if she just takes her birthright by force and kicks everyone out, she the only strong one in that house so they really would not be able to stop her.
for an example of super successful fanfiction isn't there the wicked novel the musical was based off of. it was written by a different person and is basically a whole series of AU novels
@demonic_myst4503 ah sorry, to clarify the wicked musical was based off the novel but he did write a series of books about the wicked witch, her son and his daughter.
Ahh yes we love the bittersweet ending and now we wait for the bittersweet start for the next season. Also merry Christmas my fellow bastardos i love ya all.
This has been a thing for ages now but has anyone else noticed how often people doing reaction videos. (vtubers in particular) Will always pause to ask a question or point something out. Right before the characters literally answer their question or say the exact same thing they did when they unpause.😂
In fairness to Octavia, she was right in that Stolas prioritized Blitzo over her. Boy literally didn’t hesitate to give up EVERYTHING including her in order to save Blitzo.
Abandoning your child especially when you know the other parent sucks like that just shows where stolas’s priorities are and for a parent they are certainly in the wrong place
normally I used it referring to monsters in monster hunter literally turning sideways and hitting you with the entire side of their body, but everyday hipchecks are like, bumping someone with your hip while you are walking by or some sht normally to knock someone off balance. cute pfp btw.
@1:23 Why is he so excited to talk about his whole horse thing? As if you don't bring up COD fanfiction every time anyone shows the slightest interest.
The thing is, when stolas chose to save blitz, at what he believed would be at the cost of his own life, he did technically speaking, willingly choose blitzes life over being alive to raise his daughter. From a kids perspective, that's very understandable, in addition to his promise to Octavia to never leave her.
I love how Octavias song is a a version of you will be ok that Stolas sang in that episode when they went to looloo land, which was the same episode he promised he wouldn't run away from her
I like the nuance of Octavia's feelings
Obviously she still loves her father, otherwise she wouldn't have saved him
But she can no longer trust him, which, from her perspective, is understandable
It's also possible that she's pushing him away because she thinks he was suffering for her sake and she wants him to happy. Even if that's only her feelings deep down I still think it's part of it.
Even from the outside it's understandable.
Remember the stars episode where Via went to LA? Stolas cared more about his hatred for Stella than Via. Sure it was a mistake, but one he must own up to.
His decision to go through with the divorce effected Octavia. His decision to defended the imp that was the catalyst of the divorce and the subsequent punishment because of that was a choice Stolas made.
It's bad enough to have your family fighting. It's bad enough to have one parent make choices that hurt you. But for that parent to be the one you don't want leaving you making decisions that leads to them leaving you hurts.
The betrayal of trust and the feeling that the love they showed you may have been false.
Oof.
Bit weird she seems to be a-ok with Stella, though.
@@Mare_Man she may have gotten used to it. So it's normal to her that Stella acts this way because she grew up knowing her like that.
@Mr.Inktail Octavia isn't an idiot, and Stella isn't subtle about how terrible she is.
3:14 it says under the name "Calling from his shitty boyfirend's phone"
Oh, I hadn't noticed before lol.
It's too blurry and small to be sure, but that MIGHT also say slutty. Which does fit as well.
It's really worth mentioning that Octavia has seen so very little of both Stolas and Blitz's character arcs that her reaction is pretty normal. Even in the bit just before her song she has her earbuds in and may not have even heard them say Stolas has been trying to contact her the whole time.
It's primarily a misunderstanding but with what she's aware of it all adds up. I think they'll actually talk about things down the line.
I love your Christmas hat
Yee Merry Christmas!!!! 🎄🎄🎄🎁🎁🎁
@ Merry Christmas
21:04 The fanfiction-to-novel path is similar to how "The Forgotten City" went from an award-winning game mod to a standalone award-winning game. I personally love seeing the fanwork-to-original dynamic happen.
38:00 "talk to your husband" that would be way too logical and well written for modern audiences
The food themed outfits of Loona and her friends, is because hellhounds are all naturally birthed in the Gluttony ring, M&M are both denizens of Wraith, and while I believe Blitz is also born a wrathian, he believe he was raised in the Greed ring, hence the Mammon cap on top of the tree.
Episode 5 of season 1 ("Wrath ... I've never really been" and episode 4 of season 2 ("I'm not from Wrath") tell us Blitz is not from Wrath but we don't know what his birth sin is but someone pointed out he said you can celebrate whichever sin you like and he did set his home and coat on fire (maybe meaning his greatest sin in his eyes is the fire in the circus he caused)
If you look closely at the screen when stolas calls Via she makes it clear that he's calling from Blitzø's phone.
27:06 i love the tiktok edits of this with the spongebob sound "wait where did you get that piano" XD
With regards to Octavia, I experienced a nasty divorce between my parents and it was right around Octavia's age that I had nothing but trust issues and one parent was like Stolas, suffering in silence while the other was willing to "give everything" I wanted, but what that meant was giving me free reign, so of course that parent feels like a free vacation, the problem was how much one sided lies I was fed by said "vacation' parent, it took from the time I was 18 until almost 23 to realize just how awful of a mistake I was making and coming to my senses allowed me to reconcile with the other parent what amazed me was how the one parent I treated so poorly and said so many awful things because of the lies I was fed, they still forgave me and welcomed me like I had never left that house.
It's basically a lack of true understanding and perspective, (also why the episode made me tear up because It was like watching my early adult years play out via another character)
Regardless of how fucked up it is, stolas did ultimately choose blitz over octavia, he went and saved blitz knowing full well he would be punished, hell he thought he was gonna be executed meaning he would never see octavia again, so either A he thought about octavia and still chose to (in his mind) die for blitz and leave octavia all alone, or B the thought of octavia never even entered his mind and he was solely focused on blitz.
Funny fact about the horse thing:
The reason Blitz is so into horses is because Brandon (Blitz's VA) HATES horses, so its become an in-joke at his expense
That's pretty amazing. I am actually hiring Brandon Rogers in February, lol.
@chelzorthedestroyer yoo i cant wait to see what for
he doesn't hate them I think he is just scared of them
Loved this episode, also mybe I'm remembering earlier episodes wrong but I remembering Octavia being there when Solis and her mom would argue aggressively and threaten each other
She was around when Stella confronted Stolas about sleeping with an Imp.
In the same episode where Stolas swore he would never leave her behind to be with Blitzo.
Yeaaaaaah, Stolas done fucked up. All hope is not lost, but it will take great effort to fix this.
Club sandwich.
Luna going feral was a surprise.
Octavia has known that stollas has suffered and been miserable with Stella, but because he chose happiness instead of the fake happiness he gets from pills, Octavia views it as leaving her, when he's never chosen to do, other around him have pushed him to be exiled or killed. Octavia has accepted blitzo and stollas' relationship before, but it's now again a problem because Stella is keeping her away from her father, but instead of blaming Stella, she blames stollas... yeah, Octavia is always one step forward 3 backward.
Not only are those cookies sort of meant to be modeled after Blitz, M&M and Stolas.
But I like to think they're also modeled after the Horses of the Apocalypse
Specifically she labels Blitzo as Stolas's "Shitty" or "Slutty" boyfriend. Too unclear to tell, but both of those fit.
She doesn't seem to hold any specific animosity towards Blitzo, so I'm going with slutty.
3:39 bro got that woody the woodpecker ahh jawline💀
and a yee yee ahh haircut, lol
Chelzor I love that Christmas hat you got on merry Christmas
11:03 the immaculate foreshadowing with your comment lol
Merry Sinsmas everyone!
Merry Sinsmas!
Octavia’s PoV of the story is that her mom and dad would fight a lot, he eventually cheated on her with an imp, divorced mom for that imp, and then gave up his status and house to live with the Imp. Of course the poor teen is hurt and angry at her father, even without her mother’s influence.
40:17 Loona is dressed like a bucket of popcorn :P
Oh yeaaaa. Popcorn Pupper!
"the fan fiction gets realy realy popular" yah a good example on the bad end is twilight and on the good end is eragon
it seems to me like Octavia is not liking any of her parents, her mother is doing herself no favors by acting so petty, Octavia has truly become alone, it would not surprise me if she just takes her birthright by force and kicks everyone out, she the only strong one in that house so they really would not be able to stop her.
I'm currently eating airfried chicken nuggets with barbecue sauce and drinking Mountain Dew
for an example of super successful fanfiction isn't there the wicked novel the musical was based off of. it was written by a different person and is basically a whole series of AU novels
Not a series it a book yes then made into a musical
@demonic_myst4503 ah sorry, to clarify the wicked musical was based off the novel but he did write a series of books about the wicked witch, her son and his daughter.
@ its all cool mate
Ahh yes we love the bittersweet ending and now we wait for the bittersweet start for the next season. Also merry Christmas my fellow bastardos i love ya all.
Merry Christmas
26:42 You like that sampler? Well, here a 12- piece combo with a side of kicks and large cup of ice gravel.
Makes me wonder how heavy that desk was if Stolas could lift and smash with that ice.
@chelzorthedestroyer It was nailed to the floor yo prevent Loona destroying it.
This has been a thing for ages now but has anyone else noticed how often people doing reaction videos.
(vtubers in particular) Will always pause to ask a question or point something out. Right before the characters literally answer their question or say the exact same thing they did when they unpause.😂
yeah its awesome. proof its engaging.
Millie is Pergenant?
That's what i said
Is she Pregertended?
@@chelzorthedestroyer Yep
@@chelzorthedestroyer She is Pregante
@@chelzorthedestroyer nah she's obviously Gregnat.
1:23 supposedly the reason Blitz loves horses is because his VA hates them.
YIPPEE
I didn't pick up on the detail that the llama cookie is Stolas cuz LONG
I know get us in more troible but moxie did poket that carmine crafted angelic riffle cant we just you know bang head shot
fun fact owls do eat other birds
30:00 I think you forgot how unintelligent Blitzo is.
In fairness to Octavia, she was right in that Stolas prioritized Blitzo over her. Boy literally didn’t hesitate to give up EVERYTHING including her in order to save Blitzo.
Yep. He went there fully expecting to die when he saved blitz. He didn't think about Via until after realizing he wasn't getting killed
To also be fair to him it was oh no my very 1st friend is going to die because of my book
he choose nothing. the man he loves was about to die and he decided to save him.
@@kumorizora2507imma be real bro if your a parent and you go to save someone your inlove with thinking your going to die doing it you suck as a parent
Abandoning your child especially when you know the other parent sucks like that just shows where stolas’s priorities are and for a parent they are certainly in the wrong place
marry sinsmas chelzor and to all a sinfull night lol
That was my same react when he ate whatever he ate 36:16 .
When was this stream ?
It’s the pills
30:00 they cant hurt him without a divine weapon
38:12 makes no sense why shed think he would be against a baby
Drinking somr gatorade zéro
Welp I cried lol and raisnets
I like the raisnets afterthought.
Well Stolas is like 42 I think so you can see the math
There such a thing as hip-checking? Never heard of that before
normally I used it referring to monsters in monster hunter literally turning sideways and hitting you with the entire side of their body, but everyday hipchecks are like, bumping someone with your hip while you are walking by or some sht normally to knock someone off balance. cute pfp btw.
I’m eating Christmas dinner
YEEE! Get some grub!
33:16 "we"?
you should react to Season 1 😊
I've already seen it, kind of hard to do an authentic reaction, lol
@1:23 Why is he so excited to talk about his whole horse thing?
As if you don't bring up COD fanfiction every time anyone shows the slightest interest.
33:47 feels so forced