Jim Cornette on CM Punk & Cody Rhodes In WWE Instead Of AEW
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- Опубликовано: 10 дек 2023
- From Episode 512 of the Jim Cornette Experience
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"I'm not here to make money. I'm here to make friends."
-Tony Khan probably
"Thanks Guys (Creepy smile)"
"White residue around his nostrils."
in his defence he already has the money. 😅
Facts Its just a pathetic vanity project for this awful booker and money mark
And that's the only reason they are his "friends"..........
Tony chose the Elite, their backstage buddies, and Luke Perry's son over Cody and Punk and he's paying the price for it 😂 this really is an all time bag fumble. Imagine Vince letting go Austin in '99, but twice within a 2 year period.....
Austin wasn't causing drama and making himself out to be the victim
@@kyleday5026uncle Dave do you have a burner?
@@JustinK6664 less about the comparison and more about how over they are with the fans and Tony's stupidity in not retaining them
@@Sansri16761More like Vince losing TRIPLE H or something in 99'. Cause he was over but he wasnt AUSTIN over at rhat time. Hell noone cared about Trips. He was the LEAST cool DX member. Shawn was the coolest and X-Pac was the second coolest and then Chyna and then NAO.
@@coreyhall1150 the comparison isn't really austin to punk/cody, it's more of hiw valuable either of those 2 were to the company. Your hhh comparison doesn't work (maybe in 2000) because in '99 vince still had austin. Tony doesn't have anyone close to that over. He had punk and no one was as over as he was with the mainstream.
If Tony Khan was running WWF, he’d have let go of Stone Cold Steve Austin and The Rock in order to keep Essa Rios and The Oddities.
No lies TOLD
And Tony would've let the Owen Hart incident happen multiplied times 3
Holy crap haven't heard those names in forever
Lmaooo
😂😂😂Savage.
I just love the simple fact that the AEW fanboys keep getting proven wrong LOL.
The meltdowns they have been having on twitter have been hilarious haha
Come on guys, Tony stills has mox and pockets that's the real heart of AEW 😂
in here too, their comments are very cringey and delusional
Such good shit pal 😂😂😂
I know "Tribalism" is ...well BAD.....but I don't care. I want WWE to destroy AEW.
Punk and Cody in the Rumble.... Edge on his way to a match with Nick Wayne.
Um, Nick what??
With a legendary promo battle build with Nick Wayne's mom !
Bro…. Edge should’ve stayed. Edge gonna do damage to his career being put in the ring with a jobber like that. Yes…. I said jobber!
Were his brothers in White Chicks and Little Man?
@@codiwebb6145"damage to his career" only weirdos like you see it this way. What he's doing now doesn't negate all that he's done up until now. He's with his best friend and making bank. He doesn't give two shits about anything that youre attempting to say here. He'll get paid on possibly a lesser schedule and finish out his deal, then make a return to WWE and go in the Hall of Fame. All the obsessives out there worried about his "legacy" or whatever nonsense will be laughing about all this like we all are now rather than caring.
"The biggest match in AEW history's gonna be Cody Vs. CM Punk ... Still is."
This has so many damn layers to it now, being the most important match AEW could have made... being put on WWE programming, the EVP and biggest star of AEW... in the same WWE ring, 2 individuals who went to AEW with an axe to grind against WWE... appearing together on WWE TV.
Some food for thought.
Shit, send Mercedez Mone there and she'll be back in WWE mendi g fences in a year. Hell send Vince there and he'll be back in an hour and forgive them from trying to retire him
Cody definitely knew the perfect time to jump ship from AEW. He used them to help build himself as a potential top star when he went back to WWE. But once AEW couldn't do anything more for him it was time to move on. I just hope that MJF isn't dumb enough to stick around AEW when his contract runs out also.
@joemckim1183 hopefully jolly ol Saint nick answer's his Christmas wish this year for the bidding war of 2024😂
@@joemckim1183I believe mjf is TK's friends and is deep done a nerd. He won't want to hurt Tony's feelings.
The equivalent of Hogan/Flair in WCW
Tony Khan cried a river at Jacksonville and feared for his life when he saw CM Punk and Cody Rhodes shake hands. When these 2 guys face Seth and Roman at WM 40, he will be on suicide watch.
Meanwhile, the Young Bucks trying to trademark "Super Di*k". XD
Cody and Punk are going to Main Event Wrestlemania 40. Jade Cargill could win the Royal Rumble. Hell, even Lexis King is looking 100x better in NXT. But if you as the AEW diehards, AEW is "winning" because they have Ospreay and Jack Perry might be the Devil. Oh, and they might get to see Ric Flair die in the ring as he ruins Sting's retirement.
I live in Jacksonville I can confirm rivers were cried by the Khans…
Just wait until MJF makes the smart move and leaves for WWE. TK will be in a straight jacket.........
@@SunshineStateCoasters They can turn the Jaguars stadium into the biggest pool ever, with Tony, the Elites, and Meltzer's tears. It might be the best thing for that trash fire anyway.
@@matthewhostetter8974 nah the Jags aren’t trash. We’re injured to hell and back right now but we’re not trash. However I don’t want that to happen to the Jags cause they were here before the Khans. All Duval natives know the Jaguars real owners is the Weaver family!
I think the line that also referenced aew was when he said “I’ve been at home with my feet up getting the mud off my shoes”
He called it a mudshow without anyone clicking it
💯%
That one was a little more subtle.
well the term of mudshow isn't exacttly common. I know because of Jim Cornette program and his explanation.
Oh wow, I totally missed that reference! Definitely a more subtle jab.
yet when he was in aew he took shots at wwe during his first promo. The line how his career ended in ROH and started in AEW.
Punk really knows how to play people.
I'll be honest, I've never heard that term before.
I was there in person for Full Gear 2021 in Minneapolis (November 2021). After that, Omega was gone with injuries, shortly after it was Cody who completely left the company (January 2022). Forbidden Door focused TV bored people away(June 2022), a slew of injuries plagued the PPV from it's intended form, including CM Punk. Injuries continued throughout the rest of the year, severely impacting the strength of its roster. What was supposed to be the new summer of Punk was Punkless entirely. Meanwhile MJF held the company hostage and was off TV for months. Several backstage altercations took place involving Sammy Guevarra. Punk came back in September, won the title but had the scrum situation and physical altercation afterward which resulted in his suspension along with several key AEW figures, and Moxley went to rehab in November. Or as I like to call it: 'How To Kill a Wrestling Promotion in 12 months or less.'
Punk was supposed to have a feud with max, which was the way I think they they wanted mjf to win the title (cause they are still tied 1-1). That would have still kept a little bit of people still watching aew, but obviously they dipped. Now mjf is left there as a champ without any real opponents, moxley is bleeding every match, sammy is missing, kenny is taking golden showers with jericho and bucks are going to become more goofy than before with their new gimmick probably. I just hope they bring jack perry back as the devil under the mask so aew can go bankrupt by 2025…
August 2021 to February 2022 AEW was on the up, then it self destructed
I went to two AEW shows that were a complete disaster.
I live next to a large arena in the Northeast and try to catch as many shows as possible.
So I've been to many WWE shows and now AEW shows in the same arena.
I know Corny calls AEW a mudshow and to be honest, it totally is.
The production quality was terrible.
So many pipsqueak nobodies flippy floppin all around mindlessly.
Not to mention half filled arenas.
It was just embarrassing for all involved.
And this is when they HAD Punk and Cody!!!
Mox went into rehab in late 2021, but yeah, you're right. Sadly.
@@ajmurtagh27 That's right, bc Miro replaced him at Full Gear. 👍👍
Seeing Cody and Punk main eventing next year's Wrestlemania, the 40th one no less, will have Tony fearing for his life.
Jade having a marquee match also
Tony Khan will have Wembley Stadium to crow about
Imagine WM Sasha vs. Jade too lol.
Be prepared to see little Cawdy embarrased and jobbed out for the second year in a row then. 😂
@@linewalkeryes, I guess people need a beer and piss break.
People say it everytime but the AEW documentary is going to be bigger than anything aew has produced from 2021 - present day.
@TeddyKGB12 The Plateau and Fall of AEW
@@chrisdavis245 It'll be called "The Self-Destruction of Tony Khan"
People used to say that about TNA but I dont think it would be as interesting as an AEW one. It would be spectacular cause its not just one thing or one person who fucked it up like with TNA
@@exiaR2x78 TNA is like a God damn cockroach. And I'm not saying that as an insult. Fucker can not will not die
The stories from the people who were there will be legend.
It's funny how TK backed The Elite and Jack Perry, yet Perry hasn't been brought back to TV, The Bucks seem to never be on TV period so they're not contributing, and he's reduced Kenny to a tag team with Jericho. All while his company is treading water.
I think Jericho is a species of parasyte, if you have STRONG personality, he will kill you.
Tony Khan just want to book dream match after dream match,never cared about bussiness side of wrestling(he has a lot of money)
Tony is being smart keeping Jack Perry of TV. Tony is supposed to be in charge and there needs to be consequences for talent that go into business for themselves, especially minor league talent messing about with the stars. If Tony doesn't put his foot down this stuff will keep on happening.
Cody was the brains and Punk was the money and now neither are there and it's causing chaos
And I'm here for it.
It’s okay…they have Colt Cabana. 😂😂😂
Cawdy the brains?
Lmao, if he had brains he wouldn't have allowef getting his back set on fire going through a table. 😂
@@ValiantWrestlingbrains is relative
100％.
AEW was the place to be and now it's the place to run from.
It was the place to be, now it’s the place to flee.
@@wilcee238 And went those contracts are up they are out.
@@MyGodzilla10 Yeah, a lot of people want to go back.
Still is the place to be if you want to collect a check without doing anything.
@@RandalfElVikingo or get into fights backstage.
Punks line about having mud on his boots was underrated
Outlaw mudshow reference?
👀 you might be on to something
Ye it clearly was because he started chuckling as soon as he said it, probably because it was a direct line at Cornette who famously calls AEW a mudshow
Triple H having both CM Punk and Cody holding world titles at the end of Wrestlemania would be the biggest fuck you to Tony Khan and AEW.
Why would he care if pink got a title he fired him ? He probably doesn't care what he does. And Cody left as far as I know in good terms. So don't think Tony Khan will care
@@davidcwajgenberg6185 Of course he cares.
@@davidcwajgenberg6185 the guy picks fight with random twitter tards. Has never once said a negative thing about aew. TK cares, he 100% cares.
And I would luv EVERY FUCKN MINUTE OF IT 😂, 🖕the SNOWMAN and AEW and his DADDY'S MONEY
And to the WWE fans
Brian hit the nail on the head. That AEW shot got NOOOO reaction and I noticed it immediately. That audience has little to no clue about anything AEW related or what the internet fans drool over all day.
The brand is so big and the fact that aew won't go head to head are big factors. Tony doesn't want to compete against them because that means TNT is competing against USA. If that happens and the viewership gets smaller for aew then tony has a real problem
That and Providence and Nashville aren’t exactly “smart” cities. In New York, Chicago or LA, that line would have gotten a big pop.
@@Jeff_Pryceand I feel like that was lucky they did do it there. AEW wants fans to think they’re at war, while WWE wants fans to think they’re too big for a war.
There were troops at there and frankly, they have no time to give a shit about AEW
That line was not for WWE fans, that was for AEW, Tony Khan and it's fans🤔😂
Last night on Raw, the Seth Punk segment was so good. Its like the Hangman Page-Punk feud, but in an environment with real professional adults who want to make money
Punk and Rollins already are giving Bret vs Shawn energy on RAW tonight. I’ll say it again…Punk (&Cody) belong with the STARS! They deserve WWE treatment,merch and respect for their tenure. An environment where your stars are treated like jobbers for a tag team who cant draw flys to a piece of 💩 is insane.
A tag team that tucked their tail in between their legs, after realising they would be bombarded with punk chants, What a bunch of Wanks
i said the same thing and him wearing a hitman hoodie on nxt ppv saturday was such foreshadowing
That was completely evident when I saw that in person on Monday
You know what is clearly becoming the number one problem is that AEW started with the idea that Tony was ONLY supposed to be the money man and now he’s the guy pulling the strings as a guy with no prior experience with wrestling besides being a fan prior to AEW. This guy is doing the booking with zero experience prior.
We are truly at the real point of the joke “millionaire kid fan gets to play with his toys”.
It’s clear Tony can’t run/organize a wrestling promotion as a boss as much as he runs it as a fan which is a fatal issue.
AEW definitely should hire someone like Dutch Mantell to take over booking. Not sure who else that they can hire to take over creative that is currently a free agent.
I think he could be a great promoter, not the booking. He should just said to the booker " I want A to have a much with B on TV in 2 weeks". Yes that seems to close and probably not a compelling matches, but at least there would be something.
Its fantasy wrestling. He's booking the matches he wants to see, surrounded by talent he is overpaying to work him rather than the fans, and media who are giving him booker of the year and 5 star matches. It would all be a lot easier if he could just pay the fans off as well.
@@James-bi4jz Lol I agree with you but I also think it’s worse than that as well. Not only is it fantasy wrestling but it’s not even fantasy *booking* or rather storytelling. I feel like the fans in the comment sections come up with better storylines and feuds than Tony from a story perspective. I feel like Tony will throw together a match last minute just because he think it will be a good x minute performance by both competitors, give it minimal to no story, and just be done with it. I think the story telling is severely lacking which SUCKS because imo over the years they’ve had tremendous potential to tell great stories with the roster and changing landscape around them but ultimately a lot of these programs and feuds feel lifeless and uninspired. Any time Tony has had a decent storyline fall into his lap he either plays it out in the least ambitious/imaginative way possible or gets bored with his food halfway through the meal and gets working his ice cream next.
And like at the same time the matchups on some of these weekly tv cards feels lopsided and they have for a long time.
As a fan ideally I love to go into a match not entirely knowing who’s going to win. Predictability is a killer. So when I see Bryan Danielson vs Daniel Garcia main eventing Dynamite I’m like “I love Danielson but I have work tomorrow and I don’t need to stay up to watch Danielson ultimately beat the brakes off of this kid” which is what happens and that’s the case with a lot of the weekly tv cards I feel. I know I’m in the minority in a field of of fellow Cornette fans but I like Kenny Omega and will typically watch his matches when I can. If I have work I have to get done on a Saturday night I’m not super excited to squelch on it to watch Omega vs Ethan Page when I know Page’s character isn’t in the same stratosphere as Omega’s in the AEW-verse and I just know Kenny is going over.
I’ve tuned into Raw and Smackdown lately and like a lot of their shows’ matchups have me like “this guy could win OR the other guy. I want to see who beats who, you have me interested”.
I don’t see as many people complain about the lack of story telling, the ADHD-ness of it all and the lopsided matchups on weekly TV but imo they’re a problem.
In other news. Triple H is doing God’s work right now.
Cody leaving AEW, a company he helped concept and create, for WWE, a company where he is just another talent on the roster, is such a tell to how awful working for Tony Khan and alongside man children Kenny Omega and the Bucks must be.
Yes it’s pretty obvious now after what happened with C M Punk, that Cody must have got the same treatment there, being undermined and sabotaged and their internet fanbase getting turned against him by “the Elite”. But unlike Punk, Cody kept his temper and didn’t publicly blow up, just took the high road out of there. I just can’t believe this would happen, by and for people who just shouldn’t even be pro wrestlers to begin with!
He’s not just another talent tho bro is the definition of a top guy
Right! Jade ran off and literally said it was because of AEWs management! 😂
@@Myleslambeth but not an executive vice president like he was in AEW and that’s my point.
Vince is genius for this reson he let bryan rusav keeth lee adam cole go to aew because he already made his mind he want Cody aew feed them money but let Cody go vince went to his house to get him back to WWE
And you know what's even more hilarious? Both of them are more than likely going to main event the first and second night of the 40th anniversary of wrestlemania. 😂😂😂😂
"But Wembley"
40th edition. The 40th Anniversary is March 31, 2025.
AEW at Wembley is gonna look pretty empty next year. There's no way they'll sell it out
@@sjdrifter72 The company will have no buzz behind it at that point and no big draws either. Sting will be retired, Punk is gone, MJF's contract might've run out before Wembley, Copeland is kind of floundering in AEW.
Both are main eventing against the 2 members of the SHIELD that didnt flunk out. While the plumber bleeds for free tv
Maybe a fight will happen backstage and people can talk about AEW again 😂
If this were AEW, he'd have been in a couple of trios matches by now
Tony chose Poorly. Now WWE is making bank and setting up the biggest match in 2024 with Punk/Rollins. Hell, we are looking at Seth/Rollins and Cody/Roman main-eventing both Nights of Wrestlemania. Meanwhile, Kenny Omega just wrestled Ethan Page in an empty arena and Charisma Vacuum Perry might be the Devil. The AEW faithful's only excuse is "But...but...Wembley." Once Jade debuts, and sees how Punk is handled you really have to wonder how many people in AEW are going to jump ship. I expect Hobbs, Stark, Wardlow, FTR, and Thunder Rosa if not more. All of this is thanks to Elite and Jack Perry, Thanks Guys.
Tony Khan probably gave up on his PPVs and shows and decided to focus on Wembley PPV every year.
Don't forget Mjf
😮
Only Starks and MJF are worth anything to the WWE. Everyone else will be out of a job. Even FTR, as good as they are, won’t be welcomed.
MJF just posted photos with John Cena also. John Cena had a bit of a conversation with him also lol
I'm probably in the minority in this comment section, but as much as I'm enjoying Punk and Cody in WWE, it saddens me that AEW fumbled the ball with them so badly. Wrestling is better with competition, and Tony had the chance to really put it up to WWE with Punk as his main guy, but he instead chose the Counterfeit Bucks and Jungle Jack over two of the biggest stars in the business. Hard to see anyway AEW recovers their credibility.
Yes, l find it hard to believe how another promotion with huge money and network TV backing, which could have started off with years of killer main event matches with Punk, Cody, Danielson, Moxley, Jericho for a couple of years, Cesaro, Samoa Joe, Miro, that most pro wrestling fans would want to see, has been so atrocious. But the problem is, that it isn’t really a real promotion, it’s one man and his hangers on’s fantasy land vanity project, and they have fought pretty viciously against and ran off people who tried to make it a real promotion. So really, it isn’t something that real pro wrestling fans should support.
I’m with you guys.
I don’t necessarily relish at the issues with AEW.
In fact, I am more disappointed.
Because of so much wasted POTENTIAL.
I see the MJF/Punk feud and I see what is ideal Professional Wrestling, in my mind.
I see AEW bringing in Danielson and Miro, and Malakai Black, and Cesaro, and Swerve, and I think of how these guys are STARS in their own right and how they could have been positioned in proper feuds with proper motivation against guys like Jericho, Omega, Cody, and even Plumber Moxley who were already there.
Instead… it’s become on big, unfunny, ridiculous, sketch comedy show. With terrible commentary from Excalibur and Schiavone.
Just SO much wasted opportunity.
Tony really thinks the bucks and kenny are his friends
I've seen AEW fanboys tweeting that Punk is the biggest carny in wrestling. That is obviously the elite they tricked this money mark into thinking they were his friends and give them and their friends/family millions of dollars
It's worse than that Tony thinks they are a draw and legends
@@avalond1193 Omega can be (when his talking and video game geekery is held back) but not a chance for the Chuckle Bucks!
@@3DBrawlChannelThey are from California (bad people).
Tony keeping Jack Perry over CM Punk is like if WWE fired Roman Reigns over front face locking JD Mcdonaugh
Disrespect to JD
@jovanss2361 yeah jd is 10 times the wrestler to jack perrry
He was just the first low card person that came to mind@@jovanss2361
Maybe AEW can broadcast from the Wrestling Observers RUclips page after Zazlov and One Bill Phil give us RAW is TNT 😭😭😭😭
If that happens I'd die laughing.
Agree with Brian at 5:53, one of AEW's biggest mistakes with Punk was overexposing him (which they seem to be repeating with Edge). And yes, this whole thing really just brings home how much AEW fucked up. WWE looks like a professional production getting stars over, meanwhile AEW has Edge, Christian, Sting & Flair. Which as nostalgic as it may be, won't be sustainable.
AEW is WCW 2.0 which did the same thing in bringing over washed-up WWF wrestlers who were past their prime and had a very dysfunctional locker room and massive egos causing it to go under.
Bryan is hurt more often then he's not and he doesn't have the same momentum as he did in the Yes Movement in WWE.
If aew was run like tna in 2007 wwe could have still had punk and Cody but you knew tna would produce more stars.
That's aew main issue.
Christian is the best heel in business at the moment. That feels pretty sustainable to me.
@@TheGreatVivek7A 50 year old WWE midcarder who went 10 years without wrestling walked into AEW and became their top guy. And you find that to be a positive.
Dave Meltzer said Cody wouldn’t work with Punk as he hates him. Like most of Dave’s reports, that’s aged like milk
Like all of Dave’s reports since 2019, it’s Bitcharoo bullshit.
They might and can hate each other, but the money that it could generate might be a worthwhile endeavour.
Dave also says that AEW fans are better educated, have more money, & are more intelligent than any other wrestling fans... Next time you watch an AEW show, check out the crowd and see if it's true...
@@ezstreeteI agree with the more intelligent part but everything else is just..........., and I don't even like aew
I think Punk will be a lot happier now. WWE is a well-oiled machine, so Punk doesn’t have to try to steer the ship away from the iceberg while a bunch of indie wrestlers turned VPs try to undermine him. He doesn’t have any responsibility, he can just worry about his own stuff and know that management is in capable hands.
And it’s crazy to see the reactions he’s getting from little kids who were too young to see him in WWE 10 years ago. They might not have even been born yet. But they know he’s a big deal and they seem so hyped to see him.
Exactly. He doesn’t have to try to change the world or fight the machine or anything like that. All he needs to do at this stage in his life and career, and where WWE is at now, is enjoy a huge main event level run, with Rollins, Cody Rhodes, Orton, Roman Reigns, and do business for 2-3 great years.
It’s going to become even more clear that the problem at AEW was not Punk, but the soft and entitled EVPs and Tony himself.
Except that Punk wasn't happy in WWE last time and even sued them.
Eh, Punk has had issues nearly everywhere he's been. AEW, WWE, RoH, TNA, Chikara, IWA Mid South, etc. He can change the narrative if he can hold it together for a few years and retire.
@@mattb.2740 I have always said that Punk is immensely talented but he is his own worst enemy.
His attitude is what needs fixing. He needs to sometimes bite his tongue or just do the job, or walk away from potential conflicts. He also needs to own his parts in fights and not get sucked into fights (like he did in AEW).
Punk can be as big a star as he wants to be but needs to be more respectful and not get upset when things don't go 100% his own way.
Congratulations for AEW another 5 seasons of content for “dark side of the ring”
Might be 10 seasons at this rate.
Ugh, I hope you’re right! I love that show and as much as I’m over AEW, I’d watch every episode lol. Seriously… can’t believe the steady decline of AEW. It’s only getting worse, it’s like Vince is running it with how it’s seemingly the same show week after week. Both Wednesday and Saturday.
Pink Side of the Ring.
Soft Side of the Ring
Bischoff didn't make these kinds of mistakes with WCW. Eric would've just kept Punk under Contract, until he couldn't anymore. He wouldn't fired him, just to see him go back to Vince. Austin wasn't AUSTIN yet. Jericho wasn't JERICHO yet. Waltman wasn't seen by anyone as being THAT SIGNIFICANT of a loss, but Eric did make a mistake, because Waltman was a prominently featured Performer, and letting him go back was perceived as a major move by the WWF at the time. It was the first time WWF had taken away a Star in the Monday Night War Era.
for example, Diesel wasn't KEVIN NASH in 1995. it works both sides.
He let him rot just to punish the Kliq but these days Eric said it was a mistake for him to lose Waltman.
Tonyis the most clueless guy in the world and doesn't grt he business he's a rich kid in a position he has no right being in..anyone could do better than TK ..anyone
@@johnnyskinwalker4095 not really at the time waltman or xpac six. Whatever didn't really make ratings that. High it was the other nWp members. Or the group in general .
Diesel was still WWF Champ Diesel....it doesnt work both ways lol
@@SETstudio9000
AEW do have Skye Blue in short shorts though. So they still have a fighting chance…
Sky Blue’s booty is carrying AEW! Facts!
Bruh no one that isnt a virgin cares about her, yall act like big ass means better sex or something 😂
Wait for Tiffany Straton main roster debut
They have the simp market cornered, at least AEW has that going for them
@@azhadmallick1113 Tiffany doesnt have the amount of ass Skye Blue does haha
WWE is another level especially, when right creative and talent are highly motivated. Punk's comeback is cooking while the Elite are nowhere to be seen or in trash angles.
No one cares about the excreet
😂😂Damn.
I can’t wait to hear them review Seth Rollins promo. It sounds like he did a “workers rights” promo but better and within the context of the story that Punk and WWE is telling
He did the Hangman promo but BETTER. And without being a bitch about it
I also suspect he said it with approval-from both WWE and Punk himself-and didn’t go into business for himself, unlike the “empty-headed” original.
@@Teletheusso far I'm loving the slow burn story they're telling, Punk didn't have to say a damn word to retort Rollins, Punk reacted facially, so much emotions both men were giving off, it was deeply personal as this two had a brotherly relationship over a decade ago, he will definitely have his say in the coming weeks, unlike Hangmaam who accused Punk of something he never did, Rollins made valid points against Punk.
Cody was THE ONLY reason I even gave AEW a chance. Like literally. I stopped watching wrestling in 02 but the match with Dustin had me supporting them early on then when he went 20Mins with Sonny Kiss,I was DONE!
I also gave up watching in 2002, because of was sick of it. Even though CM Punk is back, I still won't watch it. It's more entertaining listening to Corny and Brian and find out what's happening.
The punching people in the back line popped me, I got a good kick out that. Nothing wrong with a layered promo that can reach different sections of the audience in different ways.
And it works either way...
Rhea Ripley is bigger than all of AEW
She’d have Tony fearing for his life and then some.
It really is wild that Cody Rhodes and CM Punk are in the WWE again. Thanks, Tony.
And are now bigger stars coming back then when they left lmao
Only Tony Khan could have got the WWE and CM Punk back together. That’s some real Booker of the Year shit there.
heck one of them or both will be wwe guys forever now. 10-15yrs from now cody and punk will be trainers.
Sinclair’s ROH died for AEW. If there is ever a documentary I would love to hear from ROH talent about how they felt about the demise of ROH, the rise of aew, purchase of ROH, and then the burial of ROH talent in Tony’s system.
Yeah, One of the main reasons that Ring of Honor is failing besides the fact that it's to much like AEW Dark, is that their TV show is streaming on a subscription streaming service that costs $119 a year and ROH stand alone PPV's are $39.99... Next to nobody is going to pay that much for a product that is a shell of it's former self... If they really want to make ROH great again, they need to have a seperate roster from AEW, keep their championships and talent seperate from Dynamite, Rampage, Collision, & AEW Pay Per Views except maybe for special occasions... Also, seeing as Bryan Danielson is nearing the end of his active career, He could book the promotion and run it with maybe Jerry Lynn and then get a legit TV deal and maybe it could be worthwhile again...
Cary Silkin I think last month commented in an interview how disappointed he is in how Khan is handling ROH. As someone who was a day one ROH fan since 2002 it breaks my heart to see what they've become. Should've kept Deirious as booker, kept the roster totally separate, and run the same arena circuit as the old ROH instead of taping it after Collision. Plus there's no way I would pay for Honor Club except to see all the old ROH stuff (fortunately I still have a lot of those old DVDs).
Hell froze over and Brian defended Cody
I’ve said it many times; the majority of AEW fans watch WWE and complain about it, the majority of WWE fans don’t watch AEW at all.
In fairness, it wasn't the usual audience. It was mostly soldiers and airmen.
Get Tony a life alert band!
"I've fallen, and I fear for my life!"
Tony Khan is FREAM. Friends rule everything around me
Wwe is basically telling Tony, “This is how you run a business, kid”.
Mania night 1: Punk vs Seth, WHC
Mania 2: Cody vs Roman, Undisputed WWE UNIVERSAL Championship
Jade in a high profile match, and King getting a high profile match and S&D would killed Tony and sending messages to whoever they wants in AEW
Just wait til Tony signs the next Japanese Indy star…then we will allll be sorry!
Tony could sign Okada to a full time AEW contract and nobody would care. It would not turn AEW's fortunes around.
Remember, that smackdown crowd was 75% military that night.
Regardless of opinions about the companies in question, you can't argue that AEW has a big problem. It's not just Tony Khan being Tony Khan, it's an overall lack of focus, and if they're trying to be serious about being competitive, building stars.
A simple question for anyone, how many of the so called pillars of AEW have actually been world champions? How many of the people that they could have built up as legit homemade talent (Powerhouse Hobbs, Daniel Garcia, Wardlow) have been looked over constantly every time Tony sees a new shiny bauble in the form of ex WWE talent come through the door? It's old TNA and WCW all over again, where the booking is nonsense, the talent is wasted, and the people behind the scenes seem straight up delusional.
I honestly doubt Tony is having any regrets. He doesn’t live on a place called earth.
He smack his head one time when one his "friend" reporters asked what he thinks if WWE got punk
Has the full story on how/why Cody got run out of AEW ever been revealed? It was odd how after he left a bunch of "AEW sources" immediately started going after his wife with vicious personal attacks.
The fact that the crowd couldn’t give a shit about that AEW sneak diss really lets you know how insignificant AEW really is. They literally don’t exist to many wrestling fans.
With CM Punk and Cody Rhodes in WWE, now Tony Khan should fear for his life.
WWE adding some of the older talent has made for a more complete show. It's improved a ton
TK has to be raging seeing how well Cody & Punk are doing in WWE…
How he didn’t see them as his biggest stars is ridiculous ..
The snowman took over the booking when cody left and it went to shyt lmao 🤣😂
Biggest middle finger,
WWE audience Have no idea what happened in AEW .
GREAT Job in running the business TK
Tony really didn’t go after Cody after WBD begged for him to come back
who's WBD?
@@sjdrifter72Warner Bros?
Without Cody there would have been no AEW.
Tony bet on the wrong horse and he has no one to blame but himself
He didn't even know he was betting, just frolicking around with his "friends."
Speaking of Equestrian topics, He should’ve backed Aubrey. Especially over designing the video game since she IS a game developer and Twinkletoes is a gaming MARK.
I saw on facebook that a guy was mad about someone posting a video of an AEW event and said that they need to stop and show the crowd from floor level and not the empty seats.
The Great Antonio Khanoki.
Cody didnt move the needle because he came with the needle and he had to work with the people that he started the company with
They're failing to account for the fact that the Smackdown audience consisted of military veterans who probably got the tickets for free and don't watch wrestling on the regular.
I think Tony is gonna have a hard time retaining his Booker of the year award. If Meltzer gives it to him again, then he will have lost whatever little credibility he has left.
Punk and Cody gonna be the top champions after mania it’s hilarious and now Punk and Rollins just got holy shit chants from staring at each other
Cm punk delivered as expected no one cuts a promo like cm freaking punk.
That "Punch in the Face" comment was for fans like myself who tried so hard to hang with AEW, but left when Punk showed up on at WWE.
Can also add jade Cargill who will have the biggest future
If she actually gets decent in the ring shes going to be a big star, she has the look and the way she carries herself
Yeah idk I'm still skeptical if they can make her a good performer. Charlotte has had like 3 good matches in the last three years so it's not the end all be all goal that Jade makes Dave ejaculate stars but it would really help if she could get better
I figure she'll debut at Royal Rumble. She can get a reaction, do a few prepared moves lobbing some out, then get eliminated.
@@randomlynamed3353 that's fine but she HAS to be eliminated. HHH can not let her win and treat her like she's Andre the giant going into WM. I have no idea who her first feud should be with though
Lash legend in NXT is bigger and better than Jade already IMO.
If you can’t get along with Tony Khan, you have a large potential in WWE lol
WWE gad gained Cody, Randy and punk in the past 14 months. They also pulled a nice net while introducing Bronson Reed, making TJD a big deal ans keeping the draw of Bloodline. AEW hasn't just lost fans, WWE took them. If this continues, it'll be a very bad imbalance bc AEW will suddenly be sans TV deal.
It would be funny if Raw ended up on TNT next year and AEW was on a Destination America level channel.
Funny part is he referenced ko punching people who is friends with the Bucks lol😂
I think the fact that it didn’t get a reaction is even better imo . This just goes to show you how much of a cult AEW is . People outside the cult don’t know and don’t even care .
CM Punk has loads of potentially great feuds in WWE. CM Punk vs. Seth Rollins at WrestleMania 40 is where it's all gonna start. A feud with Damien Priest, Drew McIntyre, Gunther, Jay Uso, Sami Zayn, Shinsuke Nakamura, Dirty" Dominik Mysterio, The Miz, Then, onto SmackDown, possibly for feuds with Kevin Owens, Roman Reigns, Randy Orton, AJ Styles, Bobby Lashley, Sheamus, Solo Sikoa, LA Knight, Karrion Kross. Anyone else who could pop up like Brock Lesnar!
Seth and Punk, killed it. i'm loving wrestling again.
John Cena and MJF were just pictured together and caught on video having a personal conversation, what do you all think Cena said to him?
I'll put in a word, you would be treated like a big deal in wwe
“I got you, dawg.”
Probably praise him for his work and hopefully he get to see him in WWE soon
Probably: “If you want to be a real star, Get the f**k out of AEW.”
There's #30 in the Rumble.
The pop or reaction for the punk promo on the bucks wasn’t big because it was in front of the troops who don’t follow the business like hardcore fans, you guys missed that part lol
That cm punk line didn’t get a response in my opinion because it was a tribute to the troops show, it wasn’t a normal wwe crowd, military people who probably got to go to a free show
If i was Tony Khan, in the moment of the handshake, i would made a Phone Call for Adam Page and said: "You're fired...just stay away from my promotion forever!"
It's interesting that Punk hasn't mentioned the Shield at all. Not only was it one of the greatest teams in WWE history, but Punk himself started the Shield both in kayfabe and backstage. In fact, Punk himself wanted Rollins to be apart of the Shield. Maybe Dean's absence is stopping them...I hope that's not the case.
He's waiting until the build up to Wrestlemania with Seth. He doesn't need to blow his load like Seth just did.
Its definitely part of it. Especially the backstage bit since Kassius Ohno I believe was supposed to be the 3rd and not Roman. So that’s half the players missing on that end with him and Dean in other companies.
If Punk ever gets into the ring with a mic at the same time he's also in there with Rollins and Reigns he might mention it then.
Fans who were at the show said they did react. They laughed and enjoyed what Punk said. It came across louder in person than on tv. But also it was referencing what KO had done recently backstage during a segment.
It’s tragically simple; Tony chose ‘friends’ over business and that’s why 5 years in, his product isn’t making huge profits, pulling in great ratings or showing market growth. Meanwhile, people like Cutler, Nakazawa, Sabian, 40 Luchadors, and a host of others get to keep bilking the Snow Man and get TV time. 🙄
40 nondescript 7th grade sized white guys posing as luchadores you mean. They are Chikara/PWG funded by a coke head.
To be honest, I only knew the young bucks and Hangman through this podcast 😂
Lmao I am a WWE fan who has never watched AEW outside of a few short clips on RUclips. I have the distinct pleasure of not even knowing what the young cucks look like. I just get to hear about their bullshit through Corny and Last, and in a happier person for it!
They’re hard to see given they could kill themselves by jumping off a curb.
Think Colin Delaney, but half the height, weight, and even less muscle.
Just wait until Jade Cargill wins the women’s royal rumble.
Triple H and his team is just better at this than Tony Khan is. With no Vince holding him back, it’s over.
I love how this thumbnail accurately depicts everything going on in wrestling with four characters.
Can you imagine what AEW's roster would look like now if they still had CM Punk & Cody Rhodes? They might actually be beating Raw in the ratings. Now they're approaching TNA 2.0 terrirory
I finally get it now. AEW being around DOES make WWE better. Thanks guys 😂
Which is why we pray they are a lot longer to be around 😂
Brian is 100% coorect. A lot of WWE fans won't know AEW at all. My brother had no clue who Ric Flair was until he turned up owning half the company with Vince in WWE. This is VAST majority of WWE fans
Hope we get an omnibus of all this eventually.
And SOON to be MJF.
Can’t wait for it 🎉
Jim loves Punk so much,he’s missing Brian’s point. Its not an indictment of the promo,its an indictment of AEW. The no reaction isnt Punk’s fault…its Tony Khan’s promotion style.
Losing Cody, Punk and Jade are gonna end up being the death blow
Cody is the total package, the perfect entrance theme, great on the mic, becoming an expert in in-ring psychology. I just wish that man had a different finisher, because the Cross Rhodes looks so incredibly lame.
It depends who he does it to. Seth always sells it well
Chad Gable sold the Cross Rhodes like a boss
It would be fine to pull out once in a while but doing it every match and having to hit it multiple times has kinda taken the shine off it. Would like him to start using the scorpion deathlock after sting retires.
All moves these days look lame, because they don’t get sold or guys just kick out of everything. As Cornette has mentioned several times, it’s numbed people to moves. The DDT now is a joke. Back in the day, if a guy hit it, the match was over. They sold it as if they’d been legit knocked the fuck out. Which people bought because it’s a damn awesome move that looked dangerous. Now they do it as a transition, and get but a two count. The guy is up and running around doing shit back to the guy who almost killed him. There’s no psychology anymore, no working the fans, a nicely paced match. Now it’s all about volume, move after move after move to get cheap pops. Wrestling is really boring now. This is to say nothing of how the business has been completely exposed.
On the other hand Cody Cutter is awesome.
I actually discovered AEW because of Cody Rhodes. My Dad mentioned he was joining AEW so I kinda got back in the loop with wrestling then.
I hope WWE is ready to buy the tape library for the eventual "Rise and Fall of AEW" documentary.
Including the footage of Punk and Jerk-Off Perry at All In!!!
Ol King Khan looking like the red face demon from Insidious lol...
They should switch it up and have these 2 have a match at mania