Thank you so much for providing such a thorough, well executed and very informative educational demonstration. After watching this video in conjunction with the weld thru "primer" video, I have absolutely no questions left unanswered. Thank you Shawn for providing such a comprehensive demonstration! I am doing a small DIY repair to non structural components this week. Although I wish I had 3M branded tools and materials to complete the job, I am still able to apply your Pro tips and techniques with the materials I have to work with. After weeks of searching the internet for articles and videos, I have finally found answers to all the questions that keep coming to mind as I have progressed through this repair. Shawn, you have really earned my respect and I am blessed to have come across these videos. It I could afford to repurchase all new materials for my project or had come across these demonstrations sooner, I would definitely go with your recommendations in this video. I wish there was some way for me to help share your knowledge and hopefully save others like me from being lead in so many different directions. Although I can not personally vouch for the quality of the 3M products used, since I have not had the opportunity to use them, I can still confidently recommend anyone to come check out these incredible videos. Thanks again Shawn and 3M!
Taken from, www.twi-global.com/ - MAG stands for Metal Active Gas. Active gas mixtures have been developed primarily for welding steels. Typical shielding gases are mixtures of argon, carbon dioxide and oxygen e.g. CO2 , Ar + 2 to 5% O2 , Ar + 5 to 25% CO2 and Ar + 10% CO2 + 5% O 2 . - MIG stands for Metal Inert Gas. Only inert gases or gas mixtures are used for the shielding gas when MIG welding. Typical inert gases used for MIG welding are argon and helium. These gases are usually used for MIG welding of aluminium and other non-ferrous metals.
@Terry Pullen - Buddy, I want to give you a virtual internet based handshake for clearing up. I am not sure if the guys/gals/questioning at my weld supplier would be able to give me a quality paragraph of explanation as you did in comments. After decades of diagnosing the root cause of someone’s complaint, if asked a question I did not know, I said so! It’s kinda like the old saying; “If you can’t dazzle them with diamonds, then baffle them with BS.” I admit, after owning a new 150 Amp MIG in 1984, I have used straight CO2, but used 25%co2 / 75% Argon, all for general purpose mild steel welding. I don’t know if it would be cheaper after retirement to go back to straight co2 or stay with what I have. Too many back surgeries have slowed me down but family, friends and me still fabricate non-structural parts from mild steel. I have a MIG from Italy which according to the website has been manufacturing welders since 1913 and was trying hard to get market share. Besides most of Europe has 220 at the wall socket! Lol. Thanks, I wanted to give a shout out to anyone who makes the complex understandable and interesting. In my eyes after teaching auto tech on the road for one of the big 3, that rhymes with M&M, I enjoy learning, regardless. I hope 2022 finds you well and is good to you! ASE master tech since 1978, retired.
MAG weld?...its MIG weld (Metal.Inert.Gas). You could have used a reciprocating saw and had that section of the panel removed with little to no heat in less than half the time it took you to screw around with the belt grinder.
@TheTotaled1 >That is using to much common sense! Air saw cutter in corners. The special 3M tool only uses the their belts and abrasives. So $489 or $48 at HF. I have a MIG & you have a MIG, but they use a top-secret Magnetic Anechoic (Sound Waves) Welder. Called a spot welder everywhere else. You can fix it right unless the “Spot Welder” that weighs 560 pounds & counter weighted from the ceiling, like tools the UAW uses. Use it wrong and you can chip or break a finger nail! You are ever thinking the body repair process. $6,300 in tools and $900 of 3M materials. Don’t forget the cavity wax! It’s all fun, until someone puts an eye out! ASE Master Tech since 1978, using a MIG and plug welding holes.
Apparently you're wrong; there seems to be a difference between MIG and MAG - that being Inert Gas and Active Gas. It seems each designation depends on the different gasses that can be used.
MIG welding has been incorrectly used in the collision repair industry for decades and the OEMs are starting to correct it. We use active gas, 75%-25% mixed gas which is Active, not Inert. I’m demonstrating as if there is a reinforcement close behind the top panel which is typical. In that case a saw will not be feasible. Thanks for watching.
@@deankay4434 how did they put an eye out ? Weren't they wearing their 3m safety glasses? Or for extra style points get the tinted ones and score with the ladies ! I got a pair of the tinted ones ,and look at me now I gotta beat the women back with a stick!
I guess I am old school, but butt welding on a repair like that is bad form. There should be a sleeve panel put in behind the joint. I would really like to see a video on using a bonded sleeve. I do that on door skins and sail panels all the time and it works great. Also, I force cure 8115 all the time and it makes a bonding repair super fast. Thanks for the video.
Many OEMs have gotten away from using backers especially on outer non- structural panels because they are a moisture/corrosion trap. Toyota is a good example but it’s becoming prevalent. Bonded joints are very time consuming and can lead to mapping or read-through of the joint line after months of heating and cooling cycles. Coefficient of thermal expansion issues.
If you can afford to use your body hammers to pound on a wedge, you can either a. afford to pay someone else to do the work or b. whatever panels you plan to beat later are going to look like shit.
Thank you so much for providing such a thorough, well executed and very informative educational demonstration. After watching this video in conjunction with the weld thru "primer" video, I have absolutely no questions left unanswered. Thank you Shawn for providing such a comprehensive demonstration! I am doing a small DIY repair to non structural components this week. Although I wish I had 3M branded tools and materials to complete the job, I am still able to apply your Pro tips and techniques with the materials I have to work with. After weeks of searching the internet for articles and videos, I have finally found answers to all the questions that keep coming to mind as I have progressed through this repair. Shawn, you have really earned my respect and I am blessed to have come across these videos. It I could afford to repurchase all new materials for my project or had come across these demonstrations sooner, I would definitely go with your recommendations in this video. I wish there was some way for me to help share your knowledge and hopefully save others like me from being lead in so many different directions. Although I can not personally vouch for the quality of the 3M products used, since I have not had the opportunity to use them, I can still confidently recommend anyone to come check out these incredible videos. Thanks again Shawn and 3M!
Great comprehensive video & excellent presenter !
Can the person editing this stop the annoying loud rock music. I feel like a millennial who needs to be constantly entertained. Let the man teach.
Taken from, www.twi-global.com/
- MAG stands for Metal Active Gas.
Active gas mixtures have been developed primarily for welding steels. Typical shielding gases are mixtures of argon, carbon dioxide and oxygen e.g. CO2 , Ar + 2 to 5% O2 , Ar + 5 to 25% CO2 and Ar + 10% CO2 + 5% O 2 .
- MIG stands for Metal Inert Gas.
Only inert gases or gas mixtures are used for the shielding gas when MIG welding. Typical inert gases used for MIG welding are argon and helium. These gases are usually used for MIG welding of aluminium and other non-ferrous metals.
@Terry Pullen - Buddy, I want to give you a virtual internet based handshake for clearing up. I am not sure if the guys/gals/questioning at my weld supplier would be able to give me a quality paragraph of explanation as you did in comments.
After decades of diagnosing the root cause of someone’s complaint, if asked a question I did not know, I said so!
It’s kinda like the old saying; “If you can’t dazzle them with diamonds, then baffle them with BS.” I admit, after owning a new 150 Amp MIG in 1984, I have used straight CO2, but used 25%co2 / 75% Argon, all for general purpose mild steel welding. I don’t know if it would be cheaper after retirement to go back to straight co2 or stay with what I have.
Too many back surgeries have slowed me down but family, friends and me still fabricate non-structural parts from mild steel.
I have a MIG from Italy which according to the website has been manufacturing welders since 1913 and was trying hard to get market share. Besides most of Europe has 220 at the wall socket! Lol.
Thanks, I wanted to give a shout out to anyone who makes the complex understandable and interesting. In my eyes after teaching auto tech on the road for one of the big 3, that rhymes with M&M, I enjoy learning, regardless.
I hope 2022 finds you well and is good to you!
ASE master tech since 1978, retired.
Don't know why I am looking at this, but it is so cool
There's those who teach and those who can do!
Hi. Very interesting video but I hate when the music is louder than your voice. I have to keep turning you up and down.
I simply stopped watching.
The music is out of control! Good video, you will hold your audience better if you keep your hands busy doing the work from the beginning.
MAG weld?...its MIG weld (Metal.Inert.Gas). You could have used a reciprocating saw and had that section of the panel removed with little to no heat in less than half the time it took you to screw around with the belt grinder.
@TheTotaled1 >That is using to much common sense! Air saw cutter in corners. The special 3M tool only uses the their belts and abrasives. So $489 or $48 at HF. I have a MIG & you have a MIG, but they use a top-secret Magnetic Anechoic (Sound Waves) Welder. Called a spot welder everywhere else. You can fix it right unless the “Spot Welder” that weighs 560 pounds & counter weighted from the ceiling, like tools the UAW uses. Use it wrong and you can chip or break a finger nail!
You are ever thinking the body repair process. $6,300 in tools and $900 of 3M materials. Don’t forget the cavity wax!
It’s all fun, until someone puts an eye out! ASE Master Tech since 1978, using a MIG and plug welding holes.
Apparently you're wrong; there seems to be a difference between MIG and MAG - that being Inert Gas and Active Gas. It seems each designation depends on the different gasses that can be used.
MIG welding has been incorrectly used in the collision repair industry for decades and the OEMs are starting to correct it. We use active gas, 75%-25% mixed gas which is Active, not Inert.
I’m demonstrating as if there is a reinforcement close behind the top panel which is typical. In that case a saw will not be feasible. Thanks for watching.
@@deankay4434 how did they put an eye out ?
Weren't they wearing their 3m safety glasses?
Or for extra style points get the tinted ones and score with the ladies !
I got a pair of the tinted ones ,and look at me now I gotta beat the women back with a stick!
What’s the adhesive used for squeeze spot welding ?
I guess I am old school, but butt welding on a repair like that is bad form. There should be a sleeve panel put in behind the joint. I would really like to see a video on using a bonded sleeve. I do that on door skins and sail panels all the time and it works great. Also, I force cure 8115 all the time and it makes a bonding repair super fast. Thanks for the video.
Many OEMs have gotten away from using backers especially on outer non- structural panels because they are a moisture/corrosion trap. Toyota is a good example but it’s becoming prevalent. Bonded joints are very time consuming and can lead to mapping or read-through of the joint line after months of heating and cooling cycles. Coefficient of thermal expansion issues.
okay so what is that tool called he used in the beginning? i NEED one of those.
Excellent teacher. Just subscribe!!!
He pop one out of the oven like on the cooking videos
Soo what's the point of WELD THROUGH PRIMER If you can't WELD THROUGH
the presentation is instructive but the camera angles are wrong and the music headache inducing
Cuando puedo ver los videos con audio latino?
What is the point of “weld through primer”? (Sorry I had to yell over the music)
Rust prevention
Let's play really loud annoying music to distract viewers. And place a face shield in the way do people can't see what we are doing. Great job - not!
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And what the hell is a mag weld??
I loved the lesson but the music was a little nerve-racking. Sorry just trying to offer a little constructive criticism. That’s my opinion anyway.
If you can afford to use your body hammers to pound on a wedge, you can either a. afford to pay someone else to do the work or b. whatever panels you plan to beat later are going to look like shit.
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stupid! could have used a reciprocating saw! nice and clean into the corners.
He explained! This was a demo. In a real car, there is structure under the skin that PREVENTS using a saw. Try paying attention next time.