Could “Cheat Codes" be a PERFECT rap album? Danger Mouse & Black Thought review
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- Опубликовано: 15 авг 2022
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I know it's tough to go back and listen to old stuff, but MF DOOM not being with us anymore, definitely deserves your deep dive man. It may or may not be for you but if it is, you'll be in for a treat man. I was truly saddened when I heard of his passing. I'm 33 but when I was 16 I was introduced to MF DOOM and have been a huge fan since. He help me see all the different avenues in hip-hop. I'm from California so I grew up on that west coast sound, but man I loved New York/East coast hip-hop. its such a smooth vibe.
Yeah, since he admits to having been "dead" musically in the 2000's, I suggest he revisit some classics and perhaps even earlier classics by the greats of hiphop. MF Doom, Lupe Fiasco, Andre 3k, Jay, Wayne etc
he needs to drop everything and listen to madvillainy
Even if he did a separate series where he revisits music he missed. I’d pay good money to watch that!
@@stephenmcmanus7984 agreed.
I never understood why it's hard to go back. A great albums a great album, no matter when it came out
By far, the strongest supporting evidence of the "Black Thought is the GOAT" claim is his legendary Funk Flex Hot 97 freestyle. Almost uncontestedly the greatest radio freestyle of all time, it is dense, literary, allusion-heavy, and flawlessly, thrillingly delivered. To truly understand why people clamour in support of Black Thought and his excellence, drop everything and watch that on RUclips, if you haven't already. His mastery of the rap fundamentals, which he demonstrates over those 10 minutes, cannot be overstated. Seriously
Wowww. I went and watched it.
...
Wow.
Real talk. That freestyle is unf*ckwitable.
Saw The Roots at a jazz fest for free this summer, and Black Thought is the best MC that I've seen rock the stage, his concert ability is even wider than his recorded verses had led me to believe. He's a monster in every facet.
Loaded Lux's freestyle is something to behold as well.
Agree the freestyle solidified the argument, but don't think one can say it's "by far" the strongest evidence. It absolutely is an encapsulation of many of the myriad of GOAT criteria BT is either at the top or in the argument of top ex. live performance, breathe control, cadence, vocal quality, social commentary, references, metaphors, composition, braggadocio, etc. But these are centered on the rapping itself, whereas other career-centered criteria like longevity, popularity, record sales, peer endorsements, collaborations w/ other elites, etc. are crucial to the GOAT claim. For example, wouldn't say locksmith and mysone are GOATs based on the strength of their FUNK freestyles even though those are also incredible on many of the same criteria as BTs). The freestyle is the greatest documented 10mins of rap ever; it is definitely a cornerstone but there are many other cornerstones and many other important rocks in the wall of BTs status as GOAT
@@behtashbahador6588 Record sales as criteria? Really? I don't think so, son.
DOOM is a rabbit hole that could be fun diving down at a slow pace, just because there's so much. He's a big piece of underground hip hop history and almost all of his albums are growers.
That being said: I'll say what most DOOM fans say. Listen to Madvillainy. It flows easily and never gets old.
As for posse cuts: I'm not hugely informed either but I like Scenario from Low End Theory and Really Doe by Danny Brown, Kendrick, Earl Sweatshirt, and Ab-Soul
That Danny brown album was awesome. Really doe was a fantastic posse cut for that album. Each verse felt like a new spicy ingredient to the soup. But the posse cut from cheat codes brings a whole other element to the table. The beat itself sounds so formidable. It’s like the only way the rappers kept up with it was through their combined efforts. Real edge of your seat shit.
Professor,
you say you don't know MF DOOM, you don't really like Danger Mouse...
But you love Adult Swim.
You should check out Danger DOOM; maybe even for the channel, even tough it's an older album...
I think you might be suprised 😉
there are plenty of great posse cuts! my favorites are Really Doe by Danny Brown (feat. Ab-Soul, Kendrick Lamar, and Earl Sweatshirt) and 1Train by A$AP Rocky (feat. Kendrick Lamar, Joey Bada$$, Yelawolf, Danny Brown, Action Bronson, and Big K.R.I.T.)
EL-P seems to find himself in some great posse cuts
True, and he always brings it.
@@professorskye PS: RE: MF DOOM, there's a lot but you have to listen to Madvillainy, it's another perfect hip-hop album
His verse on The Last Huzzah remix continues to live rent free in my mind
This intro was really enlightening, I honestly adore the way you have a journey of introspection about how grew to love music more is really invigorating. Thank you for that.
The Beethoven Sample is Impossible by Wu-Tang Clan. So the award goes to RZA
That’s Beethoven sample 🤖
@@giordanobruno7943 Thanks
Danger Mouse and DOOM have worked together before on an album called The Mouse and the Mask. This was made in collaboration with Adult Swim, with many lyrics referencing popular shows, hence the references on the DOOM verse here.
P.S. Rahzel has a pretty wild career himself. He was involved with Ultramagnetic MCs in their early days, became a member of the Roots for a few years (although mostly just for live shows), and eventually found himself on a Björk album! Funny how those dominoes fall. (Thanks for reading these way too long paragraphs!)
The DOOM/Adult Swim ties are numerous with their former creative director, he narrated that whole decade long story in a write up.
Can't believe Prof hasn't done a DOOM deep dive... and, yes, Rahzel is amazing!
This album shook my current AOTY list. It's currently number 2 but may slip to 3 not sure. I really enjoy the production. Dangermouse did great with catering to the artist. Especially the one with Conway. Black thought delivers as well, but the features shine. The DOOM feat. Gave me chills.
What else is in your top 5 albums this year? Numbered please.
@@thevinyltruffle #1 Billy woods aethieops, #2Black thought&dangermouse cheat codes, #3 Quelle Chris deathfame #4Conway the machine God don't make mistakes,#5 E l u c I d I told Bessie.
@@thevinyltruffle you got a top five?
@@poopymcpoop9945 Ooooh yeah Deathfame is really dope!
@@ariabrown6779 such a good one
The first 4 minutes of this video is the biggest roller coaster of emotion I've ever had on a Prof Skye video.
0:00 - 0:50 Prof Skye defending what is denigrated as 'low-class' Hip Hop is why I love this channel. Shout outs to Megan Thee Stallion!
1:15 Don't worry, the title isn't provocative. I thought it was from the preview in the side bar, but then I clicked, because I know you'd never lie to or mislead me and the full title had Black Thought in it. "Perfect Rap" and "Black Thought" go together like Harry and Ron, like Ash and Pikachu, like Fantano and Hating on Nav. It's just meant to be
1:33 "-my long history of being insanely disappointed with Black Thought"
... You've never seen a human being's face transform from happy to "....What did you just say?" as quickly as mine did. I really thought about unsubscribing for a microsecond. But he saved it with the explanation.
DOOM and Danger Mouse have an entire Adult Swim album which is why those references you spoke about are on that song. It's not (just) because he's "getting high". Also I totally disagree with your Raekwon comment and it's borderline offensive but I don't think that was your intention so I'll get over it.
I know, right?!? Method Man, Inspectah Deck, Ghostface, Rae, RZA, GZA, are still killin it regularly... Meth & Deck alone have put some great projects in recent yrs.
Been waiting for this review! Masterful album, it feels like a continuation to the BlacRoc album from years ago but with black thought and Danger giving a masterclass on the art that is known hip hop. Thank you 🙏🏾
Can you please review an atmosphere album? Preferably “When life gives you lemons, you paint that shit gold”
It was so much fun to watch this live!
I rarely agree with anything you say but both our roads lead to loving this album and I find that entertaining and fascinating. I think I made almost the same comment on another one of your reaction videos.
Haven't commented for a long time but you're my favourite channel right now. Enjoyable content as always, thank you.
DOOM is my favourite artist, I heavily suggest you check out madvillainy. Also the adult swim lines are probably referencing his project "the mouse and the mask" which was a collab between danger mouse and him under the name dangerdoom which they did with adult swim. It's a really nice goofy record that I love! Be good mate and peace
10:42 the collab I didn't know I needed. I am a fan of this channel and kenjis channel and love cooking. 10/10 never saw this coming.
As for some of the best posse cut tracks I'll go with ATCQ "Scenerio" off the The Low End Theory album. Juice Crew "The Symphony", Native Tongues "Buddy".
I'd also add Danny Brown - Really Doe, ASAP Rocky - 1Train and Lupe Fiasco - Chopper for some more modern choices
Kool G Rap "Two To The Head" is another classic.
Don't forget T3ch N9ne's "Worldwide Chopper" series and that banger "Speedom." Or Mr. Muthafuckin' Exquire's "Last Huzzah" remix.
@@Jimmy1982Playlists Word! Headbanger by The Hit Squad is another good one.
A list of my personal favorite posse cuts:
Big Drum - Conway The Machine & Big Ghost Ltd
Hold Mine - The Orphanage
98 Sabers - Westside Gunn
Peruvian Cocaine - Immortal Technique
Monster - Kanye West
Ain't No Way - Denzel Curry
4th Chamber - GZA
Jason & The Czargonauts - Czarface & MF DOOM
Really Doe - Danny Brown
Pinata - Freddie Gibbs & Madlib
Oldie - Odd Future
Da Mystery of Chessboxin' - Wu Tang Clan
Scenario - A Tribe Called Quest
Da Graveyard - Big L
1Train - A$AP Rocky
Strangers - Danger Mouse & Black Thought
That is some damn fire bruh nice !!!!!!!!
This album is great. Black Thought is The GOAT in rapping. For another masterpiece in rapping check out The Sharecroppers daughter album by The Goddess MC Sa-Roc. She is something special and it has a display of rapping at its finest with a feature from Black Thought.
I cannot believe you mentioned Ishkabibbles! Not sure of that spelling, but that was one of my favorite cheesesteak spots on South St. Lived there back in the early 2000s. Great review here....lovin' this record! Also, do yourself a favor and dive into Doom! I was introduced to him back in my Philly days (around the time the Madvillany album was released). I didn't get it. I liked some of the songs, but didn't get it. Now in my late 40s, it hit. You'll know the right time to listen to it.
19:00 Opens up with a track called sometimes
which is a lead from the sample
I love the way the beats mix together with the rhymes
All this listening to Hip Hop might be making Prof Skye better at rhyming
Really Doe off of "Atrocity Exhibition" from Danny Brown, that whole album is unreal!
one posse cut from the 2020s I would highly recommend is Pravda by Your Old Droog (featuring Mach-Hommy, Tha God Fahim, El-P, & Black Thought)
Great video again!! Two things.. I don't think there is a much sampling going on as you think, Danger Mouse is pretty much a one man band, he plays drums, keys, bass, guitar.. And second, please stop postponing, listen to Madvillainy, best rap album ever. Its another world..
Absolutely... he's gotta listen to _Madvillainy_ and _MM... Food!_ I expect a breathless video of endless praise when he does.
“It has that sour cream in it” 😂 That line took me out! Great review and go back and listen to Jagged Little Pill. I loved the album. Also go listen to his Funk Flex free style (which you’ve probably already heard by now).
Man plays the horn is a great album and I would love to hear your thoughts.
Great video as always prof, also, I reckon Really Doe by Danny Brown with Earl, Kendrick, and Ab-Soul might be the best example of a posse cut done right.
The chorus kills me in that song, I think one of my favourite posse tracks from modern times is 1 train by asap rocky, most songs by beast coast (left hand is good) and a lot of dreamville songs r really good.
some great posse cuts - elucid's "sardonyx" , your old droog's "pravda" , jadakiss' "welcome to d block" , danny brown's "really doe" (my personal favourite)
great picks
Also The Last Huzzah remix (the El-P verse is up there with the all times)
Dan the Automator? I’m going on a limb but I know he samples that in Handsome Boy Modeling School album. Plus he’s an amazing sampler. Not sure if that’s who you meant though.
Few things make me so nostalgic as the cover to _Fear Of A Black Planet..._ 🥰🥰🥰
12:24 Both of my dogs are sleeping on the dog bed over there
*pans to his dogs being CLEARLY AWAKE*
In a previous comment, I said that Prof Skye would never lie to or mislead me. This statement has been revealed as false. I require an immediate apology from Professor Skye and I will not be smashing the like bucket.
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
this was my first experience with Black Thought and it couldn't have gone better. From first listen it's clear that he's a rapper that's refined his craft to a point of faultlessness, making it easy to look past the technicality and just get lost in how amazing it sounds. Same goes with the production from DM, just flawless.
Check out streams of thought volume 1 and 2
I loved the album
Handsome boy modeling school, but, sampler? Prince Paul?
Yes! Handsome Boy Modeling School is what I was thinking too
Yes! Handsome Boy Modeling School is what I was thinking too
Yes! Handsome Boy Modeling School is what I was thinking too
You got it. Lou Rawls x Bach
What are those other 2 artists mentioned from Philly that was great so I can listen? I caught moor
J DILLA!! 🤔 maybe Q-Tip, or Prince Paul. Everything he did for De La Soul is Awesome and his the Opera he did that featured BDK and Chubb Rock...👍🏿👏🏿✊🏿
Its crazy to see the amount of effort he puts in these videos. 30 minutes. damn.
I agree with the opinion on the album but not with your take on the Wu-Tang members. :-) Ghostface Killah, Method Man, Raekwon, GZA & Inspectah Deck are still great imo. You hear that they get a little older but they're still good. Great review tough.
They're still amazing! Prof kills me with some of his takes... HipHop is an older man's game now, imo. Even the best of the newer generations (Griselda, Armand Hammer, Mach-Hommy, etc etc) are in their 30s and 40s.
RZA was the unifying creative force behind the Wu-Tang. There were discussions where RZA put together songs that the members did not know they were on. They ended up hearing them for the first time after they were complete. RZA’s disciples never really rose to the challenge, RZA focused on movies, and a general lack of discipline due to times not being as hard led to them not producing anything great in a while.
The Finale (Red Death) on the new Westside Gunn album is the best posse cut ever! (You coulndt know obviously ;))
Danny Brown - Really Doe is an amazing posse cut
it is a flawless album. perfect in every way. just magical beauty and art
Yoo professor, you should definitely react to Lloyd banks new album course of inevitable 2. That’s a another contender for rap album of the year. Lyrical masterpiece
YES!
Phrenology is solid. The Seed is an all time classic and Thought@Work is amazing.
my favourite posse cut is Danny Brown's Really Doe featuring Ab-Soul, Kendrick Lamar and Earl Sweatshirt.
Awesome thumbnail. Awesome video. Cool to hear you talking about the roots and stuff. Phrenology has some super interesting tracks, by the way.
Anyway thanks. This got me through the last 40 minutes of work today, pulling weeds.
Dude. Scenario by Tribe Called Quest as a posse cut?
Other great posse cuts are Oldie by Odd Future and the Flava In Ya Ear remix with Biggie and Busta Rhymes
really doe by danny brown and oldie by odd future are both posse cuts i love. obviously gotta mention wu tang too
I would encourage to revisit “Things Fall Apart” “Game Theory” and “illadelph halflife” by The Roots. Those albums are certified CLASSICS!!!!!!
phrenology and tipping point are much much better than the three you listed.
@@fizzlebomber674 respect Illadelph halflife
Also it's a pittty you'd miss the fact that, at least in Europe, the album was simultaneously released on streaming as available on vinyl, which is pretty old skool and involved a lot of planning, bought and spinned it the same day
Have you listened to undun for the roots? Avaa
As for the posse cuts: Let's start with the two greatest IMO, both belonging to ATCQ; Scenario and The Scenario (REMIX ). Then we move on to Verbal Intercourse - Only Built for Cuban Links then the Symphony by Marley Mal and the Juice Crew, Triumph and damn near anything in the Wu-Tang. catalog. I Got My Mind Made Up - Tupac; I Shot Ya andb4,3,2,1 - Uncle L; Straight Outta Compton; Off The Books - The Beatnuts and Big Pun, Trevor Leches - Big Pun, you get the point, now go make some pancakes! I was loving this review until said that Blasphemous Nonsense...my Goodness!!
29:45 MF DOOMs Tcik Tick With MF Grimm constantly slows and speeds up, check it out
Vanillaroma - I love this dream
DOOM and DM made an album for aduult swim if you didnt know. Would love a review of that
20:20 Black Thought is interpolating (referencing?) the first line of the title track of Eric B and Rakim’s Paid in Full.
Favorite posse cuts: 1train (ASAP Rocky, Kendrick Lamar, Joey Badass, Yelawolf, Danny Brown, Action Bronson, and Big KRIT); Fuckin Problems (ASAP Rocky, 2 chainz, Drake, and Kendrick Lamar); Forever (Drake, Kanye West, Lil Wayne, and Eminem); Really Doe (Danny Brown, Schoolboy Q, Kendrick Lamar, and Earl Sweatshirt)
Two of the best posse cuts of the last decade have to be The Last Huzzah and Really Doe
First Posse Cut off the top of my head is Really Doe off Danny Brown's Atrocity Exibition.
There are different kinds of Hip-Hop and there is as well higher Hip-Hop.
Liisten to The Holocaust's "Bliue Sky Black Death", it is definitely in that category.
Yo, nice shout out to j. Kenji. He is the man.
CLASSIC POSSE CUTS;
DE LA SOUL FT. THE JUNGLE BROTHERS ~ BUDDY
(ALBUM VERSION AND REMIX WITH QTIP/QUEEN LATIFAH AND MONIE LOVE)..
A TRIBE CALLED QUEST FT.LEADERS OF THE NEW SCHOOL~SCENARIO (AND THE REMIX FT. MC HOOD)..
MARLEY MARL FT. BIG DADDY KANE/KOOL G RAP/CRAIG G/MASTA ACE~THE SYMPHONY..
EPMD FT. K SOLO AND RED MAN~ HEAD BANGER..
2 PAC FT. DAZ DILLENGER RED MAN AND METHOD MAN (INSPECTA DECK ON UNRELEASED VERSION)~
I GOT MY MIND MADE UP..
I recommend Grip Snubnose!
Madlib is the best sampler in hip-hop history. Great review!
*J Dilla has entered the chat*
I was really expecting more beat boxing.
Larry’s next to Saint joes in the wynnefield section of west philly is the best
Please review Marciano & The Alchemist’s new album, “The Elephant Man’s Bones.”
You need to hear DangerDoom bro
Best sampler in hiphop gotta be Jay Dee, RZA and Madlib up there too
best posse cut: "Triumph" - Wu-Tang Clan
14:35 I don't think it's so much that we're letting rappers age and moreso that Hip Hop is now a 50 year old genre, so of course it would become more open to having older artists excel.
It's just my hypothesis that young art forms will force older artists out and prefer the young, but the older it gets the more accepting it becomes of age.
I'm open to being disproven, but I'm excited to hear other people's perspective on it.
Method Man hits the gym hard and stopped cursing in his rhymes a few years ago.
'..this is the best thing he (danger mouse) has ever done, i dont think its even close, of course, i havent heard most of the stuff hes done' haha love this
Check out Danger Doom which is MF Doom and Danger Mouse collabed and flooded with Adult Swim clips.
Top Posse cut hands down is Scenario‼️
Hell yeah it is ..
Aquamarine is perfect
Sirius Black - the prisoner of Azkaban thinking of a master plan
hm i'm not sure who the best sampler is but for me its madlib
Top 3 album of 2022
I’m curious if you’ve not listened to Black Thought’s EP and albums with 9th Wonder. You are doing yourself a disservice if not. Highly recommend.
You definitely should listen to Phrenology.
Just listen to MM..FOOD you’ll love it
The best sampler in hip hop in my books is Madlib
Admittedly, the organ on the song Cheat Codes is aCTUALly playing eighth notes, not quarter notes😂 I’m such a stickler for this comment☠️☠️☠️
I get you probably won't read this given the amount of time since you made this video but on the off chance you read this comment, you're doing yourself a massive disservice if you don't go back and look at Black Thought's earlier work with The Roots, he's a top 5 MC of all time for me. As others have mentioned, MF DOOM deserves a deep dive also and if you like El-P's work with Run the Jewels, his peak in the late 90s, early 00s was just extraordinary.
MF DOOM Pleaaaaase I’d start with Operation : Doomsday to really get a feel for his artistry
1 train by Asap Rocky is the best posse cut in the last 20 years easily
Sheesh. AtLeast play the jams.
This album made up for the absolute shit show the game released on the same day
.......your ex-girlfriend gave you Jagged Little Pill, after y'all broke up?! I'm sorry my guy.
Listen to Madvillainy, Born Like This, MM Food, and Take Me to Your Leader these are the best DOOM albums imho!!!!
Viktor Vaughn - Vaudeville Villain
@@Kabullo76 that one cool but I literally said in my honest opinion☠️ don’t be stupid bruh
@@njmtrumpet Relax "bruh", I have not denigrated your choice and I have not even said that you were wrong to list them, I just allowed myself to add another album that ACCORDING TO MY OPINION, helps to understand DOOM better, I mean is the album where he invents his alter ego. Why are you all so defensive in this comment section? do you think you are all better than the others? You called me stupid without NO reason
Black Thought & Danger Mouse "Cheat Codes" vs MF Doom & Madib "Madvilliany"?
Madvillainy is LEGENDARY, cheat codes is a good album
A comical comparison
@@Kabullo76 Madvilliany till this day is still one of the most original,unorthodox albums I've heard between a producer and rapper. In my top 10 albums of all time. Listening to Cheat Codes gave me that feeling when I first heard Madvilliany and it's an amazing album but Madvilliany is a lightning in a bottle moment for me.
Lol sorry that's not even a discussion. Cheat codes is great in this time we are in hip-hop is pretty stagnant at times. Madvillany is a hip hop classic and will always be. Cheat codes just came out the other day dude chill lol.
@@poopymcpoop9945 nah i think you need to relax G! Lol..I only brought these two albums up because listening to Cheat Codes gave me the similar feeling when hearing Madvilliany for the first time and how both production is quirky and unorthodox imo as i mentioned already. Im not saying Cheat Codes is a classic, I'm comparing both albums based on the production and the skills although the themes of the album are different.
You should really do yourself a favor and check out Madvilliany at least to get the DOOM importance, not only because it's a great album, but it will put DOOM's impact on hip-hop as a whole into perspective for you.
MF DOOM and Adult Swim actually had a long working partnership.
Absolutely a digression, but Jim's is the best steak--or was before they burned down. May they rise again.
If Your Mother Only Knew
Mouse Is A Made Man
The Grey Album is a classic. You’re a lunatic. Meg thee Stallion? Lol