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Disagree. Landing spot is very important in fantasy, especially if you’re competing this season. For example, I watched ppl take QJ cause he’s a “freak athlete” while I smiled and took addison next pick. Addison is a WR2 forever, but he had immediate value and PT
I don’t agree with every single position, but I think these tiers are 100% correct with what we know now. Great tool to figure out what range of picks to trade up or down to try to get your guy
Dionte just a jag? I guess everyone forgets about him having a top 10 WR season the last time he had good QB play and commands targets like crazy because he gets open like crazy
The fact that you said Bowers can help them with the offensive line says a lot, bowers is not an in line TE that can help you on the blocking, he is small, that’s actually something Mayer can do. Bowers is going to be a big slot, so him and Mayer will co exist on the field at the same time
I can’t believe how everyone has just forgot about Troy Franklin, especially with the landing spot he got with Bo Nix. Injured or not, in dynasty he might be a big time player.
When you thinking Troy Franklin gonna go in drafts? I only have first round picks and a fourth. Feel like I need to draft up into a 3rd rounder to get him
@@ktet15 If we’re talking rookie drafts I’d personally rather have him than Burton, Corley, or Adonai Mitchell. I might even stretch as far as saying I like him better than Legette or Wilson. He was ranked 4th in most peoples WR mock draft. I don’t understand if we’re just riding hype trains or what’s going on? For him to go from Top 5 to Top 20 seems like people are riding nothing but a hype train and listening to the media.
@@semaj345 He ranked 6th overall amongst all receivers at the combine. Considering their we're around 34 WR's at the combine, I wouldn't say that's terrible.
Brian thomas will honestly be the steal of the draft. 217 vacated targets! Lets freaking roll. Pass heavy offense and if trevor is what the comunnity hyped him up to be then youll have a 87-97 catches with 975-1150 6 touchdown season as a rook! IMO he is a similar build to D.K and in a pass heavy offense. Not a 10/10 route runner but sheer physicals traits will take this guy far! I'm taking him at the 1.06 in my draft. Hopefuly his ADP dont rise too much by September.
Bowers in the slot and coming out of the backfield with Mayer as the inline tight end is going to be really interesting and I hope it works out well the way I see it happening
I've already started one of my rookie drafts yesterday, 12 team SF full PPR TEP, traded up from 2.06 to 2.04 for Bo Nix who was still on the board!! 2.06 & 2025 3rd for Nix & 2025 4th. Very happy 😌
Just finished my rookie draft earlier. Had 1.05 and was going Nabers fell to me. He did as the order went Caleb, MHJ, Daniels, Odunze(guy moved up from 1.06 to 1.04 for Daniels and then missed on him and liked Odunze’s situation better), and I got Nabers at 1.05. I then traded 2.08, 2.10, and 2.11 in draft to get the 1.10 and took Brooks over BTJ because I was stacked at WR and needed a long term young RB with Gibbs and Roschon as my only two young RB’s.
Any value bump for Pitts (and London) with the short term production we should see from Kirk and the longer term insurance with Penix in place behind him? 🤔
That Penix pick caused a domino effect. That's why the Raiders ended up with Brock. The Raiders needed a QB, but they were all gone, so they took the best available.
I have Murray Borrow and Jayden Daniels my biggest weakness is TE with having engram and Musgrave. At 1.6 do I take bowers over Maye because of positional need?
what if you're in 8-team, 2 QB, 4 WR; and you're in a pretty good situation at both QB and WR and have the 1.01? have not been able to swing a trade, and my co-owner and I are at a bit of an impasse. (Burrow, TLaw, Purdy, Bryce | Jefferson, Puka, Kupp, Aiyuk, DK, McLaurin)
Where do you rank Marshawn Lloyd? I have pick 2.01 wondering if I should go rb or qb 1 qb league dynasty Qbs: dak,Carr and fields Rbs: kyren,rhamondre,zeke, Ford and foreman
I have the first and 2nd pick in a 1Qb league. Qb: Stroud; Wrs: Jefferson, St.B, and Chase; Rbs: cmc, saqian, achane and Hall. Do I go MHJ and Williams or Nabers. League 8yrs old.
I’m in a 12 team SF best ball format half PPR, start 12. After getting Maye at the 1.05, I now have Herbert, Caleb, Drake, and Bryce Young. Who do I ship off to get more talent on my squad? I’m essentially lacking at every position
With Herbert, Love, and O'Connel in SuperFlex, is it worth it to take Caleb at the 1.01 or should I go with Marvin Harrison to pair up with AJ Brown? (Other WRs Juju, Bateman, Treylon, QJohnston, Wan'Dale, and Ross) Thanks
I have the 1.03 in my rookie draft of a dynasty superflex format and am debating between Jaden Daniels or Malik Nabers. I have Purdy, Lawrence and Levis and Garapolo at qb and Puke, Waddle, Addison Demario Douglas, Dotson and Cedric Tillman at WR. I could probably get Bo Nix or Penix at the 2.03 if I take Nabers. Who would you advise taking?
I am in a 12 team. I only have baker and Russ… bc everyone snagged qbs hella early. Should I try to trade up to the third pick in the rookie draft and try to get Daniels? Or try to get a vet? I have a lot of rb and wr depth
Mason I’m surprised you don’t have brooks higher😭(hook em horns) I love the guy and think with the scarcity of the rb market he could definitely go in the late first round. Plus he would be going to a newly formed offense that wants to prioritize the run (the new panthers’ hc said at the combine and now after the draft how important running is and that he wants to run the ball a lot) once brooks gets healthy he’s going to boom! I’ll pick him as high as the 1.08-1.09
If you want to make sure your team stays "good" you always take the QB in SF. But if you like to win take Marv. Im not adding a player to my bench (if i already have great QBs) when i could add a player to start
Bowers higher than the receiver? Curious about your thought process here as the receivers have higher value ceilings than TEs and are in better situations
planting my flag on Jermaine Burton now, higgins has 1 year left so it will be chase and burton and he was wayy better than a round 3 talent he's the 4th best receiver in the class talent wise. just no one wanted to draft him because of his character issues. he will be a beast in the league i'm calling it now
I appreciate the hard work and player analysis but my 12 team dynasty auction league with a rookie draft, some longterm contacts, and a salary cap is so different that the rankings aren’t close for my league. Single qb and nobody is taking Caleb ahead of Herbert fir example. Rookie picks seldom go above a second rounder for a quarterback.
JSN was averaging 6+ targets per game in his rookie year (give or take), he just wasn't catching the balls as much/doing much atc. That's not the coaches fault. Also, Odunze only eats if Allen stays for only one year. Allen works the slot mostly. I can see Allen being an escape valve for Caleb in panic situations. If Allen leaves Chicago after one year, Odunze might be able to eat off the extra attn that's being put on DJ Moore. Wait & see
I’m at the 1.08. I can’t decide who to take. I’m between Ladd and worthy. Brooks is also on the board. Only reason I’m leaning towards Ladd is bc I also have qj, but is worthy just the move??
10tm SF start 9. Drafting at the 1.09 and I'm stuck between B. Thomas and X. Worthy. I have Mahomes so i could potentially stack them but Thomas looks like a stud too. Which way do i lean?
Jags just released zay Jones so that’s good for Thomas. But I’d go worthy. Chiefs like this speedy kid. I mean, they traded up to draft him. I assume worthy will have a significant role. Both are fine options, but I lean worthy based on what the chiefs did to acquire him
Caleb is 1.01 in SF even if you don't need the QB. I was 50/50 when I assumed MHJ was going to chargers or zona. Bears convinced me over this off-season by adding keenan, swift, and drafting odunze. Even little things like adding everett. It's such a fantastic spot for an upside play to land in. That being said - I'm not calling someone stupid if they went marvin 1.01. Anyone else - yeah I'm saying that lol.
Not watched yet so interested to hear your reasoning for Brooks being a tier above Benson. I like Benson the player a lot more, he's healthy and I don't see much difference in the situations. Look forward to watching!
I don’t have them in separate tiers but I do have brooks over benson. One thing I would say brooks has over benson would be he would get more targets out for he backfield with Bryce young rather than benson with Kyler. I did take benson over brooks in a league I got marv in to stack
First 6 picks in my SF 10 team league 1. (Me) Harrison Jr (I have Mahomes & Burrow) 2. Caleb Williams (Guys loaded at WR) 3. Xavier Worthy (Guy loved the KC fit) 4. Malik Nabers (Guy needed QB2 desperately but has 1.10 and is banking on Maye/Daniels falling) 5. Keon Coleman (Another guy who loves the fit, also has Allen, Richardson, and another decent QB) *This guy was new to SF as well* 6. (Me) Brock Bowers 7. (Me) Traded Kelce, Juedy and 1.7 for Pittman and 2.2, guy is either taking Rome Odunze or doing a package deal as we speak for Laporta. 8. Guy has Jackson, Stroud, Purdy, Murray so he doesn’t need QB. He probably takes the 1st RB in Brooks or Benson here 9. Guys going thomas jr if pick 8 doesn’t grab him 10. guy gets Maye or Daniels while getting Nabers at pick 4 and hoping they fall
@@drewmac12 I would’ve taken Coleman at 6 tbh, it is noteworthy that majority of this leagues are irl friends and we are either bills or steelers fans so we have some bias 😂
@@ALswampfox I traded back up from 2.02 to get him at 1.08, we are now at like pick 2.04 and it’s went like this: 7. Rome Odunze 8. (Me) Jayden Daniels 9. Brian Thomas 10. Trey Benson Round 2. 1. (Me) Jonathon Brooks 2. Ladd McConkey
I feel like people are underrating Nabers because of his situation. I think this year he has a 1000 yard season atleast. And then for the years following the Giants will either move on from Daniel jones or if he plays we’ll stick with him. People are acting like Daniel Jones will be his qb forever. When you’re playing dynasty and you have a 21 year old receiver prospect like Nabers, he has so much time to develop and he gives the giants time to find their qb. I also think he might get the saquon treatment this year since the Giants run game isn’t special and neither are there other receivers.
I mean I didn’t draft Troy Franklin and he has bad capital- but we really gonna pretend he’s not gonna get triple the targets year 1 than half these round 1 receivers
@@Dynastyflock Mason, I love your perspective on things, but let’s revisit this in November I don’t think Sean Peyton cares about our view on draft capital He just watched Nix and Franklin put up 1400 yards
Definitely see him out targeting Ricky and worthy and possibly rome too due to the crowded wr room. Troy is Bo’s guy and the Denver wr room is lacking. Outside of Sutton there’s Mims who has potential but the connection Troy already has with nix would put him over Mims and Tim Patrick and dulcich can’t stay on the field
I’m new to dynasty so I am a bit confused on why anyone would rank Maye higher than J.J. McCarthy. The situation is so much better and will probably stay better for a while
@cletus3078 Because Maye is a waaay better prospect than McCarthy, sometimes landing spots blind people, sometime a great combine blinds people, the tape is the most honest but even that can blind people, anyways Maye also got some rookie sleeper WRs as well. So it’s not the worse situation.
Mhj is guaranteed to excel! Caleb’s ceiling can be high but I’m banking on a miserable 2024 season for bears and company… I took the future hall of fame wr mhj 1.1
I’m in that position where I have 2 really good QBs already (plus it’s a 10 man league) and I have the 1.01. I am trying HARD to trade down for the 1.02 and 1.08, I could take MHJ and then McCarthy/Bo nix. And then I still have the 2.01 and 2.07 to take Ladd and Adonai hopefully
Way, way too low on bowers. Without position value he’s the #3 most talented player in this draft. Stetson Bennett was his QB for two natties. Truly generational talent
idk how anyone can watch Mitchell do what he does on the field and then say he's bad because of metrics which miss 99% of every given play and are almost completely affected by external factors like QB, scheme, OC/playcalling.. switch Odunze and Mitchell's situation and their "metrics" would be inverted, but yet they're the same player and talent.. hmm.. he'll be one of top WR's of this class and it's not even close
Mason how come pearsall is going so low everyone cool with grabbing a qb like penix and letting him simmer on your bench but bumps down a first round wr that went to a good team in San Fran, where would he go today if there was no aiyuk/deebo there. San Fran wouldn't have taken him in the first ahead of all those other high caliber wrs just for him to be a role player or return punts
I think you gotta go Caleb there at 1.03 for the ceiling since the rest of those guys you have are never gonna get you to top 5 QB production… Strong set of high floor backend QB1’s and some QB2’s for Superflex, but feels like lower ceilings and you’ve got a chance to draft for talent over need… and then trade some of that depth to go get other help at other positions…
makes qb’s more valuable, 1 qb leagues for the most part shove them to the side and make it alot more competitive to snag the other positions while in sf everything is valuable
MHJ will be the top target for murray. He'll get heavy targets. I have the #1 pick in my league and I plan to trade it. .. I know someone will be thirsty for MHJ Tj hokenson is coming off a serious kneee injury (want be back until around mid szn) and has to go back in the middle of the field once healthy. So JJ Macarthy has only 2 options until u see if TJ can return to what he was when he was healthy. I have TJ and Laporta as my TEs, and i plan to draft another TE because im not sure about TJs future. TJ not being there means defenders can put more pressure on their 2 WRs (because they dont have much of anything outside of JJ & Addison). 3:55 Out of all the rookie QBs, for year 1, Caleb is landing in a better spot/has the best receiver group, and its not even close. Also, i had JJ Macarthy ranked lower than maye, daniels, caleb and penix. I dont see the talent others see in him. Landing spot mean nothing if u lack talent in certain areas Odunze is only worth ranking that high if Allen doesnt sign an extension. If stays just 1 year, Odunze eats off the attn DJ Mooore gets.on the oposite side
I don’t understand how anyone can think Penix is gonna have a chance to start in the next two years. How many times in the past 20 years has a team permanently sat a QB they are paying $27.5 million (2025) and $35 million (2026) that also has a no trade clause? Kirk is gonna take up 20% of their entire cap in 2026. Yeah, the Falcons spent soooo much draft capital on Penix but it doesn’t apply here like other does in other situations. All-around weird situation and is bring a lot of weird opinions out of fantasy talking heads.
Just out of curiosity, how do you predict Ladd McConkey as the chargers WR1? I don’t see it, Joshua Palmer should still be concidered their WR1 imo don’t see McConkey being anything other then a slot receiver in the NFL
That's like saying travis kelce isn't top dog in KC or Wes walker or Julian edelman weren't top guys for Brady just because they played slot or tightend.
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I think in dynasty you go talent over landing spot. Things change so fast in the NFL. Injuries, trades, coach firings you name it.
Yes but as time goes on, there is more and more talent and depth with these incoming players and they can’t all be good in fantasy. What are we to do?
There's a balance point in the middle basically.
Yessir. Maye > JJ
Disagree. Landing spot is very important in fantasy, especially if you’re competing this season. For example, I watched ppl take QJ cause he’s a “freak athlete” while I smiled and took addison next pick. Addison is a WR2 forever, but he had immediate value and PT
QJ is an argument against your point, people took him because of the “elite” landing spot with herbert, and injury prone wrs
I don’t agree with every single position, but I think these tiers are 100% correct with what we know now. Great tool to figure out what range of picks to trade up or down to try to get your guy
Did I cook?
1.02 - MHJ
1.06 - Odunze
1.07 - BTJ
1.12 - Brooks
2.02 - Benson
2.06 - Legette
(12tm SF, .5TEP, QBs are Allen/Murray/Love)
Big time cook sesh man
No doubt
No your league sucks
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I don't understand, you had 4 first round picks?
Dionte just a jag? I guess everyone forgets about him having a top 10 WR season the last time he had good QB play and commands targets like crazy because he gets open like crazy
Just a just a guy?
Yep people forgot about him since the last time he had a good QB cause he doesn’t have a good QB.
@@brendanrobb5642 you knew what I meant 😂
@@MrCjalex1 thanks for repeating what I said I guess?
28 year old WR who has declined for 3 straight seasons & just got traded for nothing
The fact that you said Bowers can help them with the offensive line says a lot, bowers is not an in line TE that can help you on the blocking, he is small, that’s actually something Mayer can do. Bowers is going to be a big slot, so him and Mayer will co exist on the field at the same time
I think Troy Franklin needs to be somewhere on the bottom of both lists
I can’t believe how everyone has just forgot about Troy Franklin, especially with the landing spot he got with Bo Nix. Injured or not, in dynasty he might be a big time player.
When you thinking Troy Franklin gonna go in drafts? I only have first round picks and a fourth. Feel like I need to draft up into a 3rd rounder to get him
@@ktet15 If we’re talking rookie drafts I’d personally rather have him than Burton, Corley, or Adonai Mitchell. I might even stretch as far as saying I like him better than Legette or Wilson. He was ranked 4th in most peoples WR mock draft. I don’t understand if we’re just riding hype trains or what’s going on? For him to go from Top 5 to Top 20 seems like people are riding nothing but a hype train and listening to the media.
@@dinero8069 terrible combine
@@semaj345 He ranked 6th overall amongst all receivers at the combine. Considering their we're around 34 WR's at the combine, I wouldn't say that's terrible.
Draft capital matters
Brian thomas will honestly be the steal of the draft. 217 vacated targets! Lets freaking roll. Pass heavy offense and if trevor is what the comunnity hyped him up to be then youll have a 87-97 catches with 975-1150 6 touchdown season as a rook! IMO he is a similar build to D.K and in a pass heavy offense. Not a 10/10 route runner but sheer physicals traits will take this guy far! I'm taking him at the 1.06 in my draft. Hopefuly his ADP dont rise too much by September.
TLaw -> BTJ!!! Gimme that stack! 🥞
You spelled DJ Chark wrong. That’s all BTJ is, DJC in disguise…..
Bowers in the slot and coming out of the backfield with Mayer as the inline tight end is going to be really interesting and I hope it works out well the way I see it happening
In my rookie draft I got Nabers at 1.06 and Nix at 1.11 super happy about that
12 team sf
I heard you say "Caleb Harrison" and thought I completely forgot a highly drafted player. Haha
Haha re watching I realized how weird it sounded
he said it like they’re running for office together. Caleb-Harrison 2024.
@Dynastyflock all good. Haha, you're WAY in the positive side of things.
I've already started one of my rookie drafts yesterday, 12 team SF full PPR TEP, traded up from 2.06 to 2.04 for Bo Nix who was still on the board!! 2.06 & 2025 3rd for Nix & 2025 4th. Very happy 😌
I hate JJ McCarthy but with KOC as a head coach and the weapons he has I think he should be ahead of Daniels and Maye. Not to mention he can run
Maye got sneaky good help with pats drafting Polk and Baker.
Just finished my rookie draft earlier. Had 1.05 and was going Nabers fell to me. He did as the order went Caleb, MHJ, Daniels, Odunze(guy moved up from 1.06 to 1.04 for Daniels and then missed on him and liked Odunze’s situation better), and I got Nabers at 1.05. I then traded 2.08, 2.10, and 2.11 in draft to get the 1.10 and took Brooks over BTJ because I was stacked at WR and needed a long term young RB with Gibbs and Roschon as my only two young RB’s.
I have a Vikings fan who needs a QB in my SF league. Should I bank on him taking McCarthy at the 1.05? He already has both Jefferson and Addison.
Any value bump for Pitts (and London) with the short term production we should see from Kirk and the longer term insurance with Penix in place behind him? 🤔
Already seeing it
That Penix pick caused a domino effect. That's why the Raiders ended up with Brock. The Raiders needed a QB, but they were all gone, so they took the best available.
Dynasty startup mock soon? 🤔
If you want!
I have the 1.01 and 1.04. Would you rather have Caleb and Nabers or Caleb and Odunze for the stack?
Go nabors and trade him for Odunze+
I have Murray Borrow and Jayden Daniels my biggest weakness is TE with having engram and Musgrave. At 1.6 do I take bowers over Maye because of positional need?
what if you're in 8-team, 2 QB, 4 WR; and you're in a pretty good situation at both QB and WR and have the 1.01? have not been able to swing a trade, and my co-owner and I are at a bit of an impasse.
(Burrow, TLaw, Purdy, Bryce | Jefferson, Puka, Kupp, Aiyuk, DK, McLaurin)
I recall jordan love going for 3rd round picks or dropped in SF after year 2.
Will you do start-up rankings for superflex?
Should I trade the 1.11 and QJ for 1.08 in a 1qb 12 man
yes. get rid of QJ as quickly as you can.
The Bryce young takes from you kill me ❤😂
Where do you rank Marshawn Lloyd? I have pick 2.01 wondering if I should go rb or qb 1 qb league dynasty
Qbs: dak,Carr and fields
Rbs: kyren,rhamondre,zeke, Ford and foreman
I have the first and 2nd pick in a 1Qb league. Qb: Stroud; Wrs: Jefferson, St.B, and Chase; Rbs: cmc, saqian, achane and Hall. Do I go MHJ and Williams or Nabers. League 8yrs old.
I’m in a 12 team SF best ball format half PPR, start 12. After getting Maye at the 1.05, I now have Herbert, Caleb, Drake, and Bryce Young. Who do I ship off to get more talent on my squad? I’m essentially lacking at every position
None and trade your first of the 2025 rookie draft with a rebuilder
10 team PPR super flex. I got Daniels with the 1.03 and i got Penix at 3.08. I was absolutely shocked
Was offered Christian Watson and 25' 1st for Rashee Rice. Thoughts?
just a HU, I was using your trade calculator and didn't see Sam Darnold available in the player pool.
Because he's worthless lol
Thanks for the heads up!
With Herbert, Love, and O'Connel in SuperFlex, is it worth it to take Caleb at the 1.01 or should I go with Marvin Harrison to pair up with AJ Brown? (Other WRs Juju, Bateman, Treylon, QJohnston, Wan'Dale, and Ross)
Thanks
Would you ever entertain the idea of moving Herbert for 1.01? Maybe even giving more. I don’t trust Herbert in a Harbaugh run first offense. Thoughts?
I have the 1.03 in my rookie draft of a dynasty superflex format and am debating between Jaden Daniels or Malik Nabers. I have Purdy, Lawrence and Levis and Garapolo at qb and Puke, Waddle, Addison Demario Douglas, Dotson and Cedric Tillman at WR. I could probably get Bo Nix or Penix at the 2.03 if I take Nabers. Who would you advise taking?
I am in a 12 team. I only have baker and Russ… bc everyone snagged qbs hella early. Should I try to trade up to the third pick in the rookie draft and try to get Daniels? Or try to get a vet? I have a lot of rb and wr depth
I have picks 1.09 and 1.12- looking for Thomas/Worthy and then McConkey/Coleman to start!
Mason I’m surprised you don’t have brooks higher😭(hook em horns) I love the guy and think with the scarcity of the rb market he could definitely go in the late first round. Plus he would be going to a newly formed offense that wants to prioritize the run (the new panthers’ hc said at the combine and now after the draft how important running is and that he wants to run the ball a lot) once brooks gets healthy he’s going to boom! I’ll pick him as high as the 1.08-1.09
If you want to make sure your team stays "good" you always take the QB in SF. But if you like to win take Marv. Im not adding a player to my bench (if i already have great QBs) when i could add a player to start
Bowers higher than the receiver? Curious about your thought process here as the receivers have higher value ceilings than TEs and are in better situations
Bowers is a much better prospect
I will probably have to choose between BTJ and Worthy in a 1QB 10 man league, any suggestions?
BTJ easily for me. But I have a type at WR and Worthy ain't it 😅
Thoughts on Jordan Travis?
Can we get a livestream with some rookie draft mocks?
Did I cook
1.03 Nabers
1.05 Brock Bowers
1.10 BTJ
2.05 Penix
3.01 Ricky Pearsall
Hey Mason, I traded the 2.04 and the 2.09 for the 1.12 because Thomas JR fell to the 1.12. Is this a good trade?
Eh kind of a reach. But it’s not a bad move whatsoever
where would Jaylen Wright fall? isn't there potentially much more fantasy upside for Wright than there is for some of these bottom tier WRs listed?
planting my flag on Jermaine Burton now, higgins has 1 year left so it will be chase and burton and he was wayy better than a round 3 talent he's the 4th best receiver in the class talent wise. just no one wanted to draft him because of his character issues. he will be a beast in the league i'm calling it now
Are you talking about Jermaine Burton or Javon Baker??
I appreciate the hard work and player analysis but my 12 team dynasty auction league with a rookie draft, some longterm contacts, and a salary cap is so different that the rankings aren’t close for my league. Single qb and nobody is taking Caleb ahead of Herbert fir example. Rookie picks seldom go above a second rounder for a quarterback.
Are we afraid for Odunze now that Chicago has the OC from Seattle for JSN's rookie season?? Same situation where he just doesn't get the target share
JSN was averaging 6+ targets per game in his rookie year (give or take), he just wasn't catching the balls as much/doing much atc. That's not the coaches fault. Also, Odunze only eats if Allen stays for only one year. Allen works the slot mostly. I can see Allen being an escape valve for Caleb in panic situations. If Allen leaves Chicago after one year, Odunze might be able to eat off the extra attn that's being put on DJ Moore. Wait & see
I’m at the 1.08. I can’t decide who to take. I’m between Ladd and worthy. Brooks is also on the board. Only reason I’m leaning towards Ladd is bc I also have qj, but is worthy just the move??
Coleman
Do we think Keon Coleman can be a star with the bills?
10tm SF start 9. Drafting at the 1.09 and I'm stuck between B. Thomas and X. Worthy. I have Mahomes so i could potentially stack them but Thomas looks like a stud too. Which way do i lean?
Jags just released zay Jones so that’s good for Thomas. But I’d go worthy. Chiefs like this speedy kid. I mean, they traded up to draft him. I assume worthy will have a significant role. Both are fine options, but I lean worthy based on what the chiefs did to acquire him
Im 5th and on the clock now... 3 wr league... i need wrs... thomas jr or worthy? Leaning worthy but hes so small
Would you send JSN for the 1.09? And then flip the 1.09 for the 1.11 and 3.01?
You're giving away JSN to move down 2 picks in the 1st and add a third? No way.
Luke McCaffrey just got traded for a 25 2 and a 26 2, should this be vetoed?
If you had Hurts, Stroud, and Trevor Lawrence would u still take Caleb Williams? I’m not im taking GOLD JACKET JR (my nickname for Harrison)
Being a little nit-picky here but Jordan Love didn't get the starting job until year 3 and he was a 1st rounder. But still, your point stands.
Late first
Caleb is 1.01 in SF even if you don't need the QB. I was 50/50 when I assumed MHJ was going to chargers or zona. Bears convinced me over this off-season by adding keenan, swift, and drafting odunze. Even little things like adding everett. It's such a fantastic spot for an upside play to land in.
That being said - I'm not calling someone stupid if they went marvin 1.01. Anyone else - yeah I'm saying that lol.
Not watched yet so interested to hear your reasoning for Brooks being a tier above Benson. I like Benson the player a lot more, he's healthy and I don't see much difference in the situations.
Look forward to watching!
I don’t have them in separate tiers but I do have brooks over benson. One thing I would say brooks has over benson would be he would get more targets out for he backfield with Bryce young rather than benson with Kyler. I did take benson over brooks in a league I got marv in to stack
First 6 picks in my SF 10 team league
1. (Me) Harrison Jr (I have Mahomes & Burrow)
2. Caleb Williams (Guys loaded at WR)
3. Xavier Worthy (Guy loved the KC fit)
4. Malik Nabers (Guy needed QB2 desperately but has 1.10 and is banking on Maye/Daniels falling)
5. Keon Coleman (Another guy who loves the fit, also has Allen, Richardson, and another decent QB) *This guy was new to SF as well*
6. (Me) Brock Bowers
7. (Me) Traded Kelce, Juedy and 1.7 for Pittman and 2.2, guy is either taking Rome Odunze or doing a package deal as we speak for Laporta.
8. Guy has Jackson, Stroud, Purdy, Murray so he doesn’t need QB. He probably takes the 1st RB in Brooks or Benson here
9. Guys going thomas jr if pick 8 doesn’t grab him
10. guy gets Maye or Daniels while getting Nabers at pick 4 and hoping they fall
Please remember in 10 Man SF QB values are still valuable but it’s not hard to get QBs, Stafford and O’connell are in FA for example
Guys 3 and 5 are drunk
@@drewmac12 I would’ve taken Coleman at 6 tbh, it is noteworthy that majority of this leagues are irl friends and we are either bills or steelers fans so we have some bias 😂
Wtf is this 😂 Jayden Daniels fell to 10?
@@ALswampfox I traded back up from 2.02 to get him at 1.08, we are now at like pick 2.04 and it’s went like this:
7. Rome Odunze
8. (Me) Jayden Daniels
9. Brian Thomas
10. Trey Benson
Round 2.
1. (Me) Jonathon Brooks
2. Ladd McConkey
I feel like people are underrating Nabers because of his situation. I think this year he has a 1000 yard season atleast. And then for the years following the Giants will either move on from Daniel jones or if he plays we’ll stick with him. People are acting like Daniel Jones will be his qb forever. When you’re playing dynasty and you have a 21 year old receiver prospect like Nabers, he has so much time to develop and he gives the giants time to find their qb. I also think he might get the saquon treatment this year since the Giants run game isn’t special and neither are there other receivers.
I have a question, in dinasty why qbs have more value?
They don’t but most dynasty league people play superflex which means you can start 2 qbs
I mean I didn’t draft Troy Franklin and he has bad capital- but we really gonna pretend he’s not gonna get triple the targets year 1 than half these round 1 receivers
Triple the targets of the round 1 guys? I'm sorry I want Franklin to do well but that's not happening
@@Dynastyflock Mason, I love your perspective on things, but let’s revisit this in November
I don’t think Sean Peyton cares about our view on draft capital
He just watched Nix and Franklin put up 1400 yards
@@TheCheff93triple the targets would likely have him setting an nfl record
@@Soggylemonz triple the targets than half. I’m not saying nabers or mhj
Im saying for instance worthy or Ricky
Definitely see him out targeting Ricky and worthy and possibly rome too due to the crowded wr room. Troy is Bo’s guy and the Denver wr room is lacking. Outside of Sutton there’s Mims who has potential but the connection Troy already has with nix would put him over Mims and Tim Patrick and dulcich can’t stay on the field
Traded my 1.02 and 2.8 for 1.01 before the draft 😢 how badly did I lose?
U didn’t
@@kendyllhall6087 feels like a big overpay based. On the talent at 2.8
You didn’t loose get your guy
@@patrickpascal1225bro, 2.8 is a dart throw even if you like the player, it’s not an overpay by any stretch that’s a bargain to me
Do I take Caleb if he falls far in a 1QB league and sell Mahomes for a ransom?
I have the 1.01 and 1.03 need a qb and wr taking willams at 1 should I take nabers at 3 or pair odunze with williams at 3?
Lol take marvin at 1 then Daniels at 3 tbh
Agree with stigboi
Where is Sinnott was taken 2nd round super athlete with a good opportunity
In most post draft boards I’ve seen him go around the 3.04 pick
What part of McConkey’s analytical profile was bad?
Pretty much all production measures
Should I trade the 1.7 in my upcoming dynasty rookie draft for Tua? Solid team except for QB. Only QB is Fields.
If you're contending then probably. But if McCarthy is there at 7 then snag him.
Not a Steelers fan but if the Steelers draft a wr he typically end up being pretty solid
Can't wait for everyone to see that Caleb WIlliams aint that guy. His improv work aint gonna cut it in the NFL.
This guy is fire !
Much love my guy
I’m new to dynasty so I am a bit confused on why anyone would rank Maye higher than J.J. McCarthy. The situation is so much better and will probably stay better for a while
@cletus3078
Because Maye is a waaay better prospect than McCarthy, sometimes landing spots blind people, sometime a great combine blinds people, the tape is the most honest but even that can blind people, anyways Maye also got some rookie sleeper WRs as well. So it’s not the worse situation.
Mhj is guaranteed to excel! Caleb’s ceiling can be high but I’m banking on a miserable 2024 season for bears and company… I took the future hall of fame wr mhj 1.1
Im waiting for 2 draft to start today. Im taking marvin at 1.1
I’m in that position where I have 2 really good QBs already (plus it’s a 10 man league) and I have the 1.01. I am trying HARD to trade down for the 1.02 and 1.08, I could take MHJ and then McCarthy/Bo nix. And then I still have the 2.01 and 2.07 to take Ladd and Adonai hopefully
McConkey or Brooks in ppr dynasty start 2rb / 3wr?
depends on team need, i have them neck and neck
I have Kyler and Richardson.. I have 1.01.. am i really taking Caleb??\
I wouldn't. Especially with the stack of Kyler and Marvin
Way, way too low on bowers. Without position value he’s the #3 most talented player in this draft. Stetson Bennett was his QB for two natties. Truly generational talent
Two 26 1st’s for the 1.02 this year, go get Caleb Williams. Is that too much to ask? Seems like it might be worth it.
idk how anyone can watch Mitchell do what he does on the field and then say he's bad because of metrics which miss 99% of every given play and are almost completely affected by external factors like QB, scheme, OC/playcalling.. switch Odunze and Mitchell's situation and their "metrics" would be inverted, but yet they're the same player and talent.. hmm.. he'll be one of top WR's of this class and it's not even close
Polk is gonna be so good
Mason how come pearsall is going so low everyone cool with grabbing a qb like penix and letting him simmer on your bench but bumps down a first round wr that went to a good team in San Fran, where would he go today if there was no aiyuk/deebo there. San Fran wouldn't have taken him in the first ahead of all those other high caliber wrs just for him to be a role player or return punts
Exactly, been taking him early to mid 2nd
So if you had Russ, Fields, Watson and Love and the 1.03, would you draft Caleb or Nabers? Caleb is gonna fall to me I’m pretty certain
I should add that myself and my league mates are all skeptical of Caleb, I don’t wanna be the one with egg on my face if I draft him and he busts
I think you gotta go Caleb there at 1.03 for the ceiling since the rest of those guys you have are never gonna get you to top 5 QB production… Strong set of high floor backend QB1’s and some QB2’s for Superflex, but feels like lower ceilings and you’ve got a chance to draft for talent over need… and then trade some of that depth to go get other help at other positions…
@@andrewbracht7939 I secured the 1.01 as well. I’m grabbing MHJ at 1.01 and Caleb at 1.03!
I’m taking Troy Franklin over anyone in the F tier
Who is that behind you 🤔
Im so curious why superflex is so popular. I think it's way lamer than 1 qb
makes qb’s more valuable, 1 qb leagues for the most part shove them to the side and make it alot more competitive to snag the other positions while in sf everything is valuable
@@kolbers19 yeah I like WR and RB being more valuable. Using both picks in the first two rounds on QBs sounds lame to me
You should do more redraft stuff
Wym he has a redraft channel that’s more popular and he posts on way more then this
Remember this comment in two years when you see marshawn Lloyd as the running back 1 in the nfl
I’m at 1.01, 1.04, 1.10 who do I pick community?!
Does he understand the that worthey broke records
doesn't matter
MHJ will be the top target for murray. He'll get heavy targets. I have the #1 pick in my league and I plan to trade it. .. I know someone will be thirsty for MHJ
Tj hokenson is coming off a serious kneee injury (want be back until around mid szn) and has to go back in the middle of the field once healthy. So JJ Macarthy has only 2 options until u see if TJ can return to what he was when he was healthy. I have TJ and Laporta as my TEs, and i plan to draft another TE because im not sure about TJs future.
TJ not being there means defenders can put more pressure on their 2 WRs (because they dont have much of anything outside of JJ & Addison). 3:55 Out of all the rookie QBs, for year 1, Caleb is landing in a better spot/has the best receiver group, and its not even close. Also, i had JJ Macarthy ranked lower than maye, daniels, caleb and penix. I dont see the talent others see in him. Landing spot mean nothing if u lack talent in certain areas
Odunze is only worth ranking that high if Allen doesnt sign an extension. If stays just 1 year, Odunze eats off the attn DJ Mooore gets.on the oposite side
I don’t understand how anyone can think Penix is gonna have a chance to start in the next two years. How many times in the past 20 years has a team permanently sat a QB they are paying $27.5 million (2025) and $35 million (2026) that also has a no trade clause? Kirk is gonna take up 20% of their entire cap in 2026. Yeah, the Falcons spent soooo much draft capital on Penix but it doesn’t apply here like other does in other situations. All-around weird situation and is bring a lot of weird opinions out of fantasy talking heads.
who would you rather have on a keeper league\keeper league? : Drake London or Brian Thomas
penix is 23yo.. bo nix is older than him, why doesnt anyone say that?
Because Penix won’t see the field for a minimum of two years and a max of 4?
@silverknight876 even before he was drafted his age was a knock on him..
Yeah because if I have a 25 year old starting QB I'm sad😂. Could easily get 10 years out of him
Wow no burton? Boyd replacement and maybe tee higgns he will be one of the best rookies wait and see
Should be ranking jj over Daniel’s and Maye
Just out of curiosity, how do you predict Ladd McConkey as the chargers WR1? I don’t see it, Joshua Palmer should still be concidered their WR1 imo don’t see McConkey being anything other then a slot receiver in the NFL
That's like saying travis kelce isn't top dog in KC or Wes walker or Julian edelman weren't top guys for Brady just because they played slot or tightend.
Do I trade Bijan for Marvin? I have breece and Gibbs, but I have chase and Davante adams at wr