Attempt number 51 at getting Spookston to play any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging targets. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
There are a real Panther II and Tiger II 105 fully functioning prototypes located near Pleiskircher, Germany, Gaijin doesn't want you to know but it was revealed to me in a dream that they exist, they just wanted to prevent German mains from taking over war thunder.
The Panther II only existed as a fully completed hull which the the Americans recovered and brought back to the states to test. The Tiger II with the 10.5cm gun only ever existed has a proposal. Which was impractical and pointless, while the 8.8cm gun in the shmaltrum turret was a different project.
@@derpiestderp325 Well to be fair the coelian kinda existed I was the Panther hull with a wooden Prototyp turret And If i remember correctly the ho Ri was completely Out of Wood as a "Prototyp" Based on that If the Ho Ri is allowed to stay in Game, then the coelian should be too
@@Sturmi05 Late to the party. but i think the prototype should stay. But the *production* variant should go. THat seems like a fair way to deal with it imo
This isn't common knowledge so I don't blame you for not knowing, however, the Ho-Ris were added due to misinformation purposefully fed to Gaijin by the former Japanese Ground Consultant. That consultant no longer works with Gaijin. The Type 99 being at the same BR as the Ho-Ri Production is a pretty clear sign of the end times for it so make sure to snag it before it gets banished to the Shadow Realm.
A major reason why they were removed is also because the game started adding more modern vehicles that could start roughly replacing their role and BR in the tech tree. For Japan this took longer, but with the presence of the Type 99 I wouldn't be surprised if the Ho-Ri is next on the chopping block.
i heard you hate british vehicles, vehicles that do no damage and vehicles that are basically CAS magnets, so i think you should play the ratel 90; a gigantic british light tank with no armor, that only gets 90mm HEAT with a 7 second aced reload and that somehow always gets strafed by planes before it's even allowed to leave spawn (day 78)
gaijin: adds 1 million objects into soviet tree: totally fine also gaijin: a wooden mockup of an AA-panther?: no way. totally not real. cant be in our game any longer
the coelian existed only as a wooden mockup and blueprints. meanwhile the vehicle that replaced it, the ostwind 2, wasnt even that. It didnt exist and was never even conceived of. It's a fair argument for all but that
Everytime I see these tanks I get sad because I used to play the game when they were about to removed but I still only had Pz 3s and 4s unlocked so I couldn't get them.
Yea but gajin unfortunately removed them for not being real. Meanwhile a good majority of the Russian tank prototypes just don't exist or barely exist.
@@aiedenoldstien9751are you even heard what spookstoon said? Both KT105 and Panther II are straight up fictional, unlike russian one off prototype that exist as a functional vehicles.
the tiger 105 causes the kind of fear factor in my teammates that make them treat it like its a maus despite only having slightly more firepower than the normal tiger 2
Sometimes it feels like the maus when it was much lower in br. The imaginary tiger will just soak up tankshells for seemingly no reason at all and one shot everything.
Considering its frontal armor making it almost imposible to pen even with sabot shots and that sometimes the barrel dosen't get destroyed (even when i hit it head on only turned yellow) so yeah, that tiger in a bottle neck position its a nightmare if there is no way to flank it
@@Kuschel_K what balance reasons Its a 105 tiger 2 With a quicker reload than the t29 That used to have a range finder if it doesnt still And when the t29 got moved to 7.0 it stayed at 6.7 for along while Wheres the balance here
You have to play the Sturer Emil, 243 mm of pen at 4.3 makes KV-1's cease to exist, it also has great gun depression and like a 15 sec reload with expert Crew
CURSE YOU, BAYLE! I HEREBY VOW, YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY! BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR, AND I, IGON! YOUR FEARS MADE FLESH! SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE, FOUL DRAGON, BUT I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN HIDE! WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS, WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!
im convinced you made a bot and put down code words spookston always puts in his titles like, "forbidden" or something dude because you posted this within a minute of this video being made dawg
@@dr.airsoft I do not believe this. It all follows one steady pattern and doesn't make mistakes. But to be fair he does consistently upload at a semi-consistent time.
I had a really shitty day today and was about to go to bed depressed as shit. But then I decided to open RUclips and saw this on my recommended. Clicked on it and I don’t regret doing so. Your vids bring spirits up man. Subscribed.
Honestly seeing these tanks is pretty nostalgic for me. My dad and I used to play WT together a lot and my dad got these tanks just before they were removed from the tech tree. I remember trying them out on his account. I wish you could still somehow get them cuz I didn't reach them back then.
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I was just about to start researching the Panther two, logged off, a week later when i came back they removed it💀
You should give the Coelian its own video, it is the hidden gem of the removed lineup. It plays like a pseudo IFV, but more importantly CAS 'players' think you are an Ostwind II which leads to some very funny moments when strafing turns into certain death, followed by screeching and coping in chat.
The Panther II hull does exist, it's just that after mounting multiple different turrets (including the one seen on the Panther F), it was realised it would solve a few problems but would result in basically a completely new tank, so they scrapped the project, kept the hull, and put the finalised design turret on a regular Panther G chassis as the Panther F. Even that project couldn't be completed because the war was over by that point. Still, have the Panther II chassis, give it a Panther F turret, and it should be good. You just have a slightly fatter Panther now
I would like it to have the panther g turret as the f turret in game is technically worse as it's a flat plate. Also, the f turret is probably the worst looking tank turret ever made. In my opinion, it just looks gross.
We're you got this nice fairytale from ? 😅 The Panther 2 was rejected , cause simple side skirts solved the problem with Soviet 14,5mm AT rifles . The new turret called Schmalturm used to be on the Panther F , wich also was never completed . The F had a better hull and they put some G turrets on F hulls , that's it . There was no real F version with the Schmalturm .
@@5co756 I don't think you understand what happened. Panther F is nothing more than a Schmallturm on a Panther G chassis. The Panther II was not just about side skirts, but about a better engine (HL234), increased front armour and a new transmission/gearbox, as well as sharing as many parts as possible with the Tiger II. The Panther II had a specially designed turret, which was the "schmale Blendenausführung Panther", but it was rejected for the Schmallturm, which was then kept for the Panther F project, which as I stated in the comment, never went anywhere. The Panther II was a project that already started in early 1943, but continued on until mid 1944 due to differing ideas on what the Panther II was going to be.
You all need go back to historical facts school because neither of you got it completely right. The project was canceled in 1943 and a sort of Schmalturm was planned but never constructed.
@@shockblaster1201 the Panther II in real life doesn't have either the HL234 engine or Tiger II transmission. This is because it was not meant to have those improvements. The real project was just meant to have improved protection due to experiences on the Eastern front, specially from the 14.5 anti tank rifles that the Soviets used. When it was cancelled, the HL234 engine didn't even exist yet.
Spook your style of humor is precisely my brand. The text, the sound effects, and the Halo OST synergize so well with your commentary and footage. Great job!
you can TECHNICALLY still play the Panther 2 in one of those training tutorial missions, i forget which one. just a neat way to look at the model, even if you can’t do a whole lot
I love the panther 2. I can still remember it being one of germanys top tier vehicles and for the time they were added, they did their part. I absolutely prefer the 10.5cm Tiger. For some reason I have really good dumb luck with big guns and I’ve made some ridiculous shots with it
Nah the panther 2 started at 6.7 and got moved to 7.0. Personally I believe that was completely unnecessary and undeserved because now the panther 2 is almost unplayable especially when uptiered.
@@steakinbacon8593 It's a singular BR step up for a vehicle new players literally can't use or see in game to look for weak spots in the hangar man it's not that bad
my favorite running joke is Spookston constantly complaining about blinding himself with NVD's while trying to scout but refusing to rebind the key and instead either just suffering or now just disabling NVD's all together
This is just my most used lineup except for the flakpanzer since I stopped researching SPAAs with wirblewind and wasnt able to research flakpanzer on time. I was unaware of anything that happens in wt at that time. Though I was able to get the Maus and it was my favorite tank to play.
Panther II on display at the U.S. Army Armor & Cavalry Collection, Fort Moore. It simply doesn't have the proto-type "slim-turret", and instead has a Panther Aus-G turret as a place holder.
Panther 2 actually exists. It was a prototype but it was found without a turret so the allies put a panther g turret and now its in a museum. The tiger 2 105 was only a proposed upgrade for tiger 2.
The fact that I have this lineup is the only reason I still come back to this game. These three right here are it. Panther II is so very rewarding to play. Coelian tend to do the best with against air vehicles compared to any other AA, and the 105 tiger is just way to much fun to play. If it weren't for these three, I'd have stopped playing long ago.
The Panther 2 does exist, ive seen it, touched it and have pictures of it. Its in Fort Moore or Fort Benning if your old school. The goofy Schmallturm was supposed to be on it however there wasnt an existing prototype until after the Panther 2 was cancelled so its host hull was switched to your old school panthers.
@@Thehackofzwerg It had a unique turret designed by Rheinmetall-Borsig called the Schmale Blendenausführung that was basically the rear of a normal Panther turret but with a narrow front and redesigned mantlet, it was never built and when the US captured the Panther II hull it was only fitted with weight simulators. The Panther II was fitted with an Ausf G turret post US testing to make the vehicle look more complete for display purposes only.
Your ability to detect exactly what kind of tank you’re fighting just by the sound of its engine it impressive. I’ve only learned to recognize the low rumble of Russian and German engines as being something that I usually can’t kill. I still can’t distinguish what it actually is without seeing it. Lol
panther 2 exist, its just have a original hull with a turret from panther G ( Americans put it on hull to doing range target shooting ) and its in general George Patton museum in Fort Knox now.
Day 90 You should play a tank with hydropneumatic suspension (recommend the MBT-70) But the catch is you have to drop the suspension as low as it can go for the whole match.
If I recall correctly, the hull of panther 2 was made. But someone discovered that welding plates to the side of panther's hull rendered the crew mostly safe from 14.5mm at rifles so they canned panther 2 in favor of developing panther A then G
Not really. The Panther II was supposed to be the successor of the Panther and improve it in many ways, even though Panther 1 production just started. This whole story makes no sense since making the side armor thicker by 5mm would have rendered the vehicle immune to the 14.5mm anyway. It was simply not possible to start producing the Panther II when they just set up production for the Panther 1 and also not necessary since the vehicle was on paper quite capable compare to any allied tank of the time. Thus the project was canceled and instead improvements were implemented in iterations.
11:59 Cope cages are in reference to ‘copium’ memes and jokes about the ineffectiveness of the Russian tanks. It’s fairly apt given its origin. Sure, silly name, but it has its purpose, but the correct term is slat armour.
the german 7.0 lineup is just so much fun, that 105 on the tiger rips through most targets with some aiming, and the engine and transmission upgrades for the panther absolutely make it one of my favourite tanks at 7.0. honestly they could add a more real panther 2, i think it was drawn up to be more like a panther F with the engine and transmission upgrades and with the 75mm not the 88, but im not entirely sure. considering how the snail adds many fictional configurations, and mods for russian tanks i feel like the collien is just as real as those
Day 31 of asking for the Churchill VII Daily fun fact: There were three lesser known versions of the Churchill known as the Churchill IX, X and XI. They were attempts to bring older Churchill variants like the mk. III, mk. IV, V and VI to the level of the Churchill VII mostly by upgrading the mobility and the turret.
When others drive through Spookston's shot and eat it: Grrr.. When Spookston drives through someone else's shot and eats it: Oopsie mistah I'm not sowwy.
The Panther 2 did have one hull that was produced but never went beyond just the single hull, eventually after it was captured it was given a Panther G’s turret and I think it’s on display somewhere in the US
Yeah its on display at FT.Moore , i have a picture of it in a motor pool after it was restored before thet moved it to the National amor and calvary musuem, also have a pic of the jagtiger, a Panther A and jagdpanzer 38t
Day 24 of asking for the italian AB 43. it's like a mini italian Puma, and the only downsides are the gun depression and turret traverse. I find it to be my workhorse even at a full br above where it sits. quite the silly goober, would play again 10/10
You just make it look so seamless. That said, I redownloaded this game to look if I had these vehicles. AND I DO. I'm going to suck at this but I'll give this game a try again.
Absolutely lovely topic. Would love you to talk about late war german tanks and complications of their implementation based on their sources. Great vid! 🎉
I expected spookston to have more hours but i have a friend who has 27600 hours and he has all the strats to the game and he is an excellent teacher in WT he helped me when i started playing and now helps me with suppirt
The Panther II's hull exists in the US. It was captured in Germany and it is pretty much identical to the regular Panther except I believe the main armor plate in the front is 2cm thicker along with interlocking armor plates to make the hull more resilient. As well as having the exact same road wheels as Tiger II. That is literally pretty much all the main differences lol.
Query 1: How often do you go shooting? Question 2: If you ever end up doing a face reveal, will you show us how good your aim is? Inquiry 3: Will you do some sim battles?
I was not expecting to see Igon from Shadow of Erdtree screaming Snail here. I can't escape that dialogue. It follows me everywhere, like Igon follows Bayle the Dread.
Playerbase: why are these tanks in the game, they don’t exist snail: but they do? Playerbase: can you source where it says they exist? snail: *opens up a mark-felton video*
As a German main, the complaining about vertical stabilizers isn't with shooting on the move. It is the gun bounce when stopping. The vertical stabilizer practically gets rid of that gun bounce, allowing you to shoot accurately faster.
I know it is never going to happen but I would love to see those vehicles as a reward for a certain amount of years played. Biggest regret not grinding these back then.
(Attempt #1) Now that every tech tree in the game has a Sherman, you should have a video where you use a lineup consisting of one Sherman variant from each tech tree.
Very tired but managed to get this done
No I don't actually have that many hours in WT, over half of those are from falling asleep with WT open
Rest dear Spookston, we adore you.
Hey spookston
How’s ya day going?
Real bro
Pls play the Shturm-S as a SAM (attempt #71)
Attempt number 51 at getting Spookston to play any tank with a dozer blade, the catch is, he has to dig in before engaging targets. Movement around the map is allowed, but he has to dig in again before reengaging.
I love he keeps liking your comment, but not doing it.
Ehh… let’s limit his movement even more. T72 TURMS
@@elgalletita_1366He does the same thing for the Concept 3
@@elgalletita_1366For real, I was about to say this is atleast the 5th time I’ve seen this comment heart’d
Bro this is the most cancerous thing
>brings a full lineup
>plays exclusively two of the 4
Still a WT youtuber
Who doesn't do this?
yeah its disappointing i was trying to see all 4
To be fair the Coelian is dogshit
@@tigersympathiser2265the coelian can survive a heat round from the m47
Favourite sounds in Spookston Videos:
- seismic charge
- cat getting smacked
- calling someone a „goober“
- steel pipes falling
I'm fond of the HL2 fast zombie sounds. It's perfect for gremlin behavior.
@@Chopstorm. Right, a classic. Forgot that one.
Mines the halo sound effects
Fart with reverb 1:56
The bayle one on this video might be my favorite😂
There are a real Panther II and Tiger II 105 fully functioning prototypes located near Pleiskircher, Germany, Gaijin doesn't want you to know but it was revealed to me in a dream that they exist, they just wanted to prevent German mains from taking over war thunder.
There is a real panther II hull but the wacky schmallturm with a range finder and kwk43 is completely fake
@@waterdotzable Nice try fed
@@waterdotzable entonces podrian agregar un nuevo panther a la rama con ese chasis y sacar el F jaja
The Panther II only existed as a fully completed hull which the the Americans recovered and brought back to the states to test. The Tiger II with the 10.5cm gun only ever existed has a proposal. Which was impractical and pointless, while the 8.8cm gun in the shmaltrum turret was a different project.
@@riccardoricci937 They exist and should be in game. It was revealed to me in a dream.
Spookston: has full lineup
Also Spookston: Uses the Panther II 95% of the time
THE REAL FORBIDDEN IS THE SEMOVENTE 75/46 M43, GIORNO 216, NEVER SURRENDER.
KEEP THE PRESSURE UP, HE CANT IGNORE IT FOREVER
Dawg is gonna get you to 365
VAI UOMOOO
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@@olafrohwer3482 MAI
Gaijin: removed panther 2 and tiger 2 105 because they don’t exist.
Also Gaijin: Hori production go purrrr!
replacing the fake coelian with the fake ostwing 2.... classic gaijin
@@derpiestderp325 Well to be fair the coelian kinda existed
I was the Panther hull with a wooden Prototyp turret
And If i remember correctly the ho Ri was completely Out of Wood as a "Prototyp"
Based on that If the Ho Ri is allowed to stay in Game, then the coelian should be too
@@Sturmi05 Late to the party. but i think the prototype should stay. But the *production* variant should go. THat seems like a fair way to deal with it imo
This isn't common knowledge so I don't blame you for not knowing, however, the Ho-Ris were added due to misinformation purposefully fed to Gaijin by the former Japanese Ground Consultant. That consultant no longer works with Gaijin. The Type 99 being at the same BR as the Ho-Ri Production is a pretty clear sign of the end times for it so make sure to snag it before it gets banished to the Shadow Realm.
A major reason why they were removed is also because the game started adding more modern vehicles that could start roughly replacing their role and BR in the tech tree. For Japan this took longer, but with the presence of the Type 99 I wouldn't be surprised if the Ho-Ri is next on the chopping block.
i heard you hate british vehicles, vehicles that do no damage and vehicles that are basically CAS magnets, so i think you should play the ratel 90; a gigantic british light tank with no armor, that only gets 90mm HEAT with a 7 second aced reload and that somehow always gets strafed by planes before it's even allowed to leave spawn (day 78)
Your persistence is legendary. Even as a Brit main and a fan of most of the SA vehicles I loathe the Ratels.
@@b.c.2281 Same lol
I love the ratels
@@CamFurey-to1gdHEATFS at 6.3 on a semi-mobile platform and scouting is very goated indeed
I actually love my Ratel 90, thing is a fucking beast
gaijin: adds 1 million objects into soviet tree: totally fine
also gaijin: a wooden mockup of an AA-panther?: no way. totally not real. cant be in our game any longer
the coelian existed only as a wooden mockup and blueprints. meanwhile the vehicle that replaced it, the ostwind 2, wasnt even that. It didnt exist and was never even conceived of. It's a fair argument for all but that
The ostwind 2 did exist in descriptions but even that was not as it appears in game
@@_EllieLOL_ the configurations of the 20mms are wrong
@Smokey348 the Ostwind uses a single 37mm, the Ostwind II uses a dual 37mm set up. You're thinking of the Werbelwind, quad 20mm.
@@cq4538r yea i meant 37 sorry
@@Smokey348 np, least you were civil and didn't spout racial epithets at me. Have a nice day :)
The "CURSE YOU SNAAAIILLLL" is now officially my new favourite Spookston bit
Everytime I see these tanks I get sad because I used to play the game when they were about to removed but I still only had Pz 3s and 4s unlocked so I couldn't get them.
Real
Yea but gajin unfortunately removed them for not being real.
Meanwhile a good majority of the Russian tank prototypes just don't exist or barely exist.
@@aiedenoldstien9751 unlike this comment, which is real
@AidenColson This was never real. Your meds haven't kicked in yet.
@@aiedenoldstien9751are you even heard what spookstoon said? Both KT105 and Panther II are straight up fictional, unlike russian one off prototype that exist as a functional vehicles.
Video number 6 of me asking Spookston to play his main/favorite lineup of every nation but this time with 15 euro.
Donated 15 and not even a reply damn🕊️
Ouch.........Herr Spookston ignored you. GG good sir. GG
Stay strong king
15$ and not even a reply, sad
the tiger 105 causes the kind of fear factor in my teammates that make them treat it like its a maus despite only having slightly more firepower than the normal tiger 2
Sometimes it feels like the maus when it was much lower in br.
The imaginary tiger will just soak up tankshells for seemingly no reason at all and one shot everything.
Im surprised its reload is so low
It should take longer to load then a t29 at least with its turret being much more cramped
Considering its frontal armor making it almost imposible to pen even with sabot shots and that sometimes the barrel dosen't get destroyed (even when i hit it head on only turned yellow) so yeah, that tiger in a bottle neck position its a nightmare if there is no way to flank it
@@dozergames2395It was reduced for „balance“ reasons.
The reload of a lot of vehicles doesn’t make any sense.
@@Kuschel_K what balance reasons
Its a 105 tiger 2
With a quicker reload than the t29
That used to have a range finder if it doesnt still
And when the t29 got moved to 7.0 it stayed at 6.7 for along while
Wheres the balance here
You have to play the Sturer Emil, 243 mm of pen at 4.3 makes KV-1's cease to exist, it also has great gun depression and like a 15 sec reload with expert Crew
not getting these three is the largest regret i ever have
mine is not getting the Moderna (I was so close but gave up)
Me who started to play 1 month ago : pumas ;-;
I have the Pamther and Tiger, I never played SPAA and still seldom do, so I never considered even getting the Coelian
I at least got the Coelian and it's very funny when planes come to strafe you, thinking you're an Ostwind. Free kills!
"Forbidden tank lineup" plays only Panther II, never change Spookston XD
Spookston trying not to play just one tank challenge
You are, without a doubt, one of my favourite War Thunder content creators.
Keep up the excellent work.
1:18 The Igon scream had me rolling when i realised it said "snail" and not Bayle LOL
CURSE YOU BAYLE WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS
CURSE YOU, BAYLE! I HEREBY VOW, YOU WILL RUE THIS DAY! BEHOLD, A TRUE DRAKE WARRIOR, AND I, IGON! YOUR FEARS MADE FLESH! SOLID OF SCALE YOU MIGHT BE, FOUL DRAGON, BUT I WILL RIDDLE WITH HOLES YOUR ROTTEN HIDE! WITH A HAIL OF HARPOONS, WITH EVERY LAST DROP OF MY BEING!
Imagine having a huge night vision device on top of your turret and not even have night vision.
It does get night vision
@@germanshepherddog732 oh shit ur right
@@germanshepherddog732doesnt matter because you cannot get night battles in it lmao
wanna know a tank that isn’t forbidden and everyone can play? the AB-43
i’m so consistent i’m being accused of being AI😭🙏🏻
im convinced you made a bot and put down code words spookston always puts in his titles like, "forbidden" or something dude because you posted this within a minute of this video being made dawg
@@WarLightning042 nah i just happen to be on RUclips every time he posts😭🙏🏻
@@dr.airsoft I do not believe this. It all follows one steady pattern and doesn't make mistakes. But to be fair he does consistently upload at a semi-consistent time.
@@WarLightning042 i never make mistakes because i’m different
@@WarLightning042 i promise i’m real tho
I had a really shitty day today and was about to go to bed depressed as shit. But then I decided to open RUclips and saw this on my recommended. Clicked on it and I don’t regret doing so. Your vids bring spirits up man. Subscribed.
11k HOURS?
What did you expect this is spookston
@@aydenno1012 He mentioned that a lot of his hours are from falling asleep with the game open
@@Skykid3307 bruh I didn’t know that
Brother, he could have been playing since 2013 like me. 11k actually isn't that insane after you play this for years or over a decade like me.
@@marshallhenry6174 I have been playing since mid 2014 and have 17k
Honestly seeing these tanks is pretty nostalgic for me. My dad and I used to play WT together a lot and my dad got these tanks just before they were removed from the tech tree. I remember trying them out on his account. I wish you could still somehow get them cuz I didn't reach them back then.
I was just about to start researching the Panther two, logged off, a week later when i came back they removed it💀
If you started research you got to keep it
@@bassbusterx i didnt though. Still regret it
Damn all that required was 1 rp and you would've got it. Sad
I know you from somewhere...
@@MaceJones-nf2cs probably seen my comments under one of these videos
You should give the Coelian its own video, it is the hidden gem of the removed lineup. It plays like a pseudo IFV, but more importantly CAS 'players' think you are an Ostwind II which leads to some very funny moments when strafing turns into certain death, followed by screeching and coping in chat.
9:17 this might've stopped short 88, but long 88 would've gone clean through his UFP
They should all be added back for events. It’s bs that they are gone when there are other nations that still have vehicles don’t make sense.
I've said the same thing regarding the IS7
The Panther II hull does exist, it's just that after mounting multiple different turrets (including the one seen on the Panther F), it was realised it would solve a few problems but would result in basically a completely new tank, so they scrapped the project, kept the hull, and put the finalised design turret on a regular Panther G chassis as the Panther F. Even that project couldn't be completed because the war was over by that point.
Still, have the Panther II chassis, give it a Panther F turret, and it should be good. You just have a slightly fatter Panther now
I would like it to have the panther g turret as the f turret in game is technically worse as it's a flat plate. Also, the f turret is probably the worst looking tank turret ever made. In my opinion, it just looks gross.
We're you got this nice fairytale from ? 😅
The Panther 2 was rejected , cause simple side skirts solved the problem with Soviet 14,5mm AT rifles . The new turret called Schmalturm used to be on the Panther F , wich also was never completed . The F had a better hull and they put some G turrets on F hulls , that's it . There was no real F version with the Schmalturm .
@@5co756 I don't think you understand what happened. Panther F is nothing more than a Schmallturm on a Panther G chassis. The Panther II was not just about side skirts, but about a better engine (HL234), increased front armour and a new transmission/gearbox, as well as sharing as many parts as possible with the Tiger II. The Panther II had a specially designed turret, which was the "schmale Blendenausführung Panther", but it was rejected for the Schmallturm, which was then kept for the Panther F project, which as I stated in the comment, never went anywhere. The Panther II was a project that already started in early 1943, but continued on until mid 1944 due to differing ideas on what the Panther II was going to be.
You all need go back to historical facts school because neither of you got it completely right.
The project was canceled in 1943 and a sort of Schmalturm was planned but never constructed.
@@shockblaster1201 the Panther II in real life doesn't have either the HL234 engine or Tiger II transmission.
This is because it was not meant to have those improvements. The real project was just meant to have improved protection due to experiences on the Eastern front, specially from the 14.5 anti tank rifles that the Soviets used.
When it was cancelled, the HL234 engine didn't even exist yet.
Spook your style of humor is precisely my brand. The text, the sound effects, and the Halo OST synergize so well with your commentary and footage. Great job!
you can TECHNICALLY still play the Panther 2 in one of those training tutorial missions, i forget which one. just a neat way to look at the model, even if you can’t do a whole lot
I love the panther 2. I can still remember it being one of germanys top tier vehicles and for the time they were added, they did their part. I absolutely prefer the 10.5cm Tiger. For some reason I have really good dumb luck with big guns and I’ve made some ridiculous shots with it
I find it funny how the Panther II and 105 Tiger got moved down to 6.7 and now they’ve moved back up to 7.0
Nah the panther 2 started at 6.7 and got moved to 7.0. Personally I believe that was completely unnecessary and undeserved because now the panther 2 is almost unplayable especially when uptiered.
@@steakinbacon8593 It's a singular BR step up for a vehicle new players literally can't use or see in game to look for weak spots in the hangar man it's not that bad
@@TAM1906 brs got reworked and a lot of the post war tanks got moved to 7.7 or 8.0
WT need an event thats all just vehicles like this or something that people make in sprocket.
Like "Fake Front" or something
Coelian crying in the corner with only 4 frames of screen time of its vehicle card
my favorite running joke is Spookston constantly complaining about blinding himself with NVD's while trying to scout but refusing to rebind the key and instead either just suffering or now just disabling NVD's all together
Love your vids, Spook God Bless✝️
Attempt 49 of asking Spookston to play the worst spaa in game, the M19/42 dusters
the chieftain mk10 is a hidden gem you should give it a shot spookston
This is just my most used lineup except for the flakpanzer since I stopped researching SPAAs with wirblewind and wasnt able to research flakpanzer on time. I was unaware of anything that happens in wt at that time. Though I was able to get the Maus and it was my favorite tank to play.
Panther II on display at the U.S. Army Armor & Cavalry Collection, Fort Moore. It simply doesn't have the proto-type "slim-turret", and instead has a Panther Aus-G turret as a place holder.
The Panther II was never planned to have the Schmalturm and 8,8 cm either as shown in the game
@@Kalashnikov413 True, but with Herr Führer meddling who knows what might have been.
Panther 2 actually exists. It was a prototype but it was found without a turret so the allies put a panther g turret and now its in a museum. The tiger 2 105 was only a proposed upgrade for tiger 2.
i'm surprised gaijin hasnt tried to kidnap this man yet... he's too good.
I like how the bulldog penned the turret of a tank that has a literal sardine can for said turret, and killed no one...
"Forbidden Tank Lineup"
*Looks inside*
*Almost exclusively Panther 2 Gameplay lol*
The fact that I have this lineup is the only reason I still come back to this game. These three right here are it. Panther II is so very rewarding to play. Coelian tend to do the best with against air vehicles compared to any other AA, and the 105 tiger is just way to much fun to play.
If it weren't for these three, I'd have stopped playing long ago.
Can you just imagine being an L3 and seeing an entire lineup of forbidden German tanks?
The Panther 2 does exist, ive seen it, touched it and have pictures of it. Its in Fort Moore or Fort Benning if your old school. The goofy Schmallturm was supposed to be on it however there wasnt an existing prototype until after the Panther 2 was cancelled so its host hull was switched to your old school panthers.
-Panther II is historical for WT
-Source?
-It was revealed to me in a dream
(c) Gaijin employees, probably
A Panther with proper reverse speed is terrifying. Change my mind
We love WT casually adding and removing tanks just because
"why are so many guys targeting me at once"
now hold up there, pal.
moving this thing up to 7.0 was a crime
And I thought i had an issue with my 3k hours in War Thunder. Thank you for your sacrifice Spooks, its very much appreciated.
Gaijin: Wait, that's illegal
Over a year of play time( give or take)Thats incredible. All the hard work is paying off. You gots to be over the moon bro! Enjoy. Love the content
Well the Panther 2 existed, but not with a 8,8cm nor the Schmallturm
A hull doesn’t make a tank
@@Kuschel_K there where a turret, but they didn‘t use it often
The turret was form what I know the one of a Panther A
@@Thehackofzwerg It had a unique turret designed by Rheinmetall-Borsig called the Schmale Blendenausführung that was basically the rear of a normal Panther turret but with a narrow front and redesigned mantlet, it was never built and when the US captured the Panther II hull it was only fitted with weight simulators. The Panther II was fitted with an Ausf G turret post US testing to make the vehicle look more complete for display purposes only.
@@STHV_ that‘s the schmalturm. And yes there was a test turret. The turret you mean was the turret used on the Panther F
Your ability to detect exactly what kind of tank you’re fighting just by the sound of its engine it impressive. I’ve only learned to recognize the low rumble of Russian and German engines as being something that I usually can’t kill. I still can’t distinguish what it actually is without seeing it. Lol
LVT(A)(4) video please Spook!?
panther 2 exist, its just have a original hull with a turret from panther G ( Americans put it on hull to doing range target shooting ) and its in general George Patton museum in Fort Knox now.
Metal gear rising reference, lets gooooo
Day 90 You should play a tank with hydropneumatic suspension (recommend the MBT-70) But the catch is you have to drop the suspension as low as it can go for the whole match.
Spookton got my dream tanks of the german tech tree😂
If I recall correctly, the hull of panther 2 was made. But someone discovered that welding plates to the side of panther's hull rendered the crew mostly safe from 14.5mm at rifles so they canned panther 2 in favor of developing panther A then G
Not really.
The Panther II was supposed to be the successor of the Panther and improve it in many ways, even though Panther 1 production just started.
This whole story makes no sense since making the side armor thicker by 5mm would have rendered the vehicle immune to the 14.5mm anyway.
It was simply not possible to start producing the Panther II when they just set up production for the Panther 1 and also not necessary since the vehicle was on paper quite capable compare to any allied tank of the time. Thus the project was canceled and instead improvements were implemented in iterations.
11:59 Cope cages are in reference to ‘copium’ memes and jokes about the ineffectiveness of the Russian tanks. It’s fairly apt given its origin. Sure, silly name, but it has its purpose, but the correct term is slat armour.
the german 7.0 lineup is just so much fun, that 105 on the tiger rips through most targets with some aiming, and the engine and transmission upgrades for the panther absolutely make it one of my favourite tanks at 7.0.
honestly they could add a more real panther 2, i think it was drawn up to be more like a panther F with the engine and transmission upgrades and with the 75mm not the 88, but im not entirely sure.
considering how the snail adds many fictional configurations, and mods for russian tanks i feel like the collien is just as real as those
Day 31 of asking for the Churchill VII
Daily fun fact: There were three lesser known versions of the Churchill known as the Churchill IX, X and XI. They were attempts to bring older Churchill variants like the mk. III, mk. IV, V and VI to the level of the Churchill VII mostly by upgrading the mobility and the turret.
Spookstoon calls the video "Germany's forbidden line up" and proceeds to only use the Panther 2.
When others drive through Spookston's shot and eat it: Grrr..
When Spookston drives through someone else's shot and eats it: Oopsie mistah I'm not sowwy.
The Panther 2 did have one hull that was produced but never went beyond just the single hull, eventually after it was captured it was given a Panther G’s turret and I think it’s on display somewhere in the US
Yeah its on display at FT.Moore , i have a picture of it in a motor pool after it was restored before thet moved it to the National amor and calvary musuem, also have a pic of the jagtiger, a Panther A and jagdpanzer 38t
Day 24 of asking for the italian AB 43. it's like a mini italian Puma, and the only downsides are the gun depression and turret traverse. I find it to be my workhorse even at a full br above where it sits. quite the silly goober, would play again 10/10
You just make it look so seamless. That said, I redownloaded this game to look if I had these vehicles. AND I DO.
I'm going to suck at this but I'll give this game a try again.
Absolutely lovely topic. Would love you to talk about late war german tanks and complications of their implementation based on their sources. Great vid! 🎉
I expected spookston to have more hours but i have a friend who has 27600 hours and he has all the strats to the game and he is an excellent teacher in WT he helped me when i started playing and now helps me with suppirt
The "radwagen90" is just a tub onto which a tower has been flanged to make it look better. It never existed like that.
9:26
“Omg the depression is gonna ruin us.”
-The World, 1929
The Panther II's hull exists in the US. It was captured in Germany and it is pretty much identical to the regular Panther except I believe the main armor plate in the front is 2cm thicker along with interlocking armor plates to make the hull more resilient. As well as having the exact same road wheels as Tiger II. That is literally pretty much all the main differences lol.
Query 1: How often do you go shooting? Question 2: If you ever end up doing a face reveal, will you show us how good your aim is? Inquiry 3: Will you do some sim battles?
I was not expecting to see Igon from Shadow of Erdtree screaming Snail here. I can't escape that dialogue. It follows me everywhere, like Igon follows Bayle the Dread.
Playerbase: why are these tanks in the game, they don’t exist
snail: but they do?
Playerbase: can you source where it says they exist?
snail: *opens up a mark-felton video*
As a German main, the complaining about vertical stabilizers isn't with shooting on the move. It is the gun bounce when stopping. The vertical stabilizer practically gets rid of that gun bounce, allowing you to shoot accurately faster.
Throws me out for a loop fighting the Panther II, never expected a panther to REVERSE out of trouble.
I know it is never going to happen but I would love to see those vehicles as a reward for a certain amount of years played. Biggest regret not grinding these back then.
Spookston the type 60 sprg will never forgive, never forget
Spookston should play the Fiat 6614. It's such a gremlin at it's BR, especially when you can find perfect cover where only your gun is exposed.
Gayjin- “We don’t want fake tanks in the game”
Japanese Jets Zerstoher and Ostwind II Exist
Gayjin- “I’m gonna pretend that I didn’t see that”
11 THOUSAND HOURS, that is a next level amount of playtime dear god
Wasn’t a hull of the panther 2 made? I thought it was the at the American armor and cavarly collection.
9:25
"Oh my god! The depression's gonna ruin us!"
-Everyone in the 1930's
that curse you snail was epic... nice elden ring reference bro caught me off guard
funfact about t25 bug report:
it was "fixed"
literally within a day of report being introduced
Here's a fun challenge idea: SAPHEI only in the M22 Locust. Not much pen, but all of the damage.
Video 72 of asking Spookston to play the LAV-AD with HEAT
I just realized I have more playtime then spooksten at 14167 hours played btw love the vid
(Attempt #1) Now that every tech tree in the game has a Sherman, you should have a video where you use a lineup consisting of one Sherman variant from each tech tree.
The panther 2 in sim battles is straight diabolical
The thing is...they're so much fun to play
I also remember the Panther 2 having NVD
SPOOKS: *shows WT played hours*
ME: *slowly closes entire played-hours Steam catalog in shame*