Thanks for the video! Do you have any insights yet as to how this little guy performs out in the open? humidity? temperature cycling? I couldn't find a link to a manual to look up specs. or is it perhaps even specified to be operable in outdoor conditions? thanks!
Specs and users reviews can be found on their website: store.mele.cn/products/mele-fanless-mini-pc-quieter3q-n5105-windows-11-pro-micro-computer-8gb-ddr4-256gb-rom-small-desktop-computers-for-office-home-dual-hdmi-4k-60hz-bt5-2-wi-fi-6-usb3-0-ethernet-port-vesa-mount In my experience it performs better outside because of cooling. When I was doing a lot of windows updates at my desk I noticed it was running very slow, Windows Task Manager showed the CPU at 100% but only 200MHz (0.2GHz) and then I felt the case and it was very hot. I put one of those lunchbox blue ice blocks on it from my freezer and within seconds it had sped up to over 3.4GHz. I've never noticed that behavior outside where there is better airflow around it. For Astro use it's been rock solid, so much so that I recently purchased a second one, the newer Quieter 4 to run a second rig.
Thanks for the quick reply! @@JethroXP I couldn't find any environmental guardrails on the company's site for the model, like you would sometimes read in a manual (Operating conditions: -40 to +50 degrees C, up to 80% rel humidity... such a thing). But thanks for sharing your experience! Seems that any humidity or cold temperature that might get inside would be handled by the unit warming itself up 🙂
@@drfritz142 it will definitely be running above ambient temp when powered on, so the internal environment of the device will always be above the local dew point. As a related anecdote, the MiniPC I have on my permanent pier telescope recently stopped working due to a power spike (not a MeLE, this was a Beelink with a fan). It had been outside for nearly three years (inside a SkyShedPod dome) so when I opened it up to harvest SSD drive for use elsewhere I was shocked to see the internals were pristine, not a spec of dust or debris anywhere, like it was brand new. I’ve assembled and maintained my own PCs for 30 years and I’ve never seen a PC in use that long be that clean on the inside. Gave me the realization that for a PC, being outside is a cleaner environment than inside under a desk where things like dust and pet hair collect. Made me realize there is really very little to worry about with these miniPCs for Astro use because in the conditions we use our telescopes are also good for these devices.
Good alternative to Zwo since you can only use their cameras. Planning on running something like this with svbony cameras with Nina, since they are a little more affordable.
Thanks for sharing. I hope the set up has worked well in practice. Have you any guidance for those needing to control such a mini pc via wired Ethernet rather than wi-fi? Good luch usingbthe equipment. Have subscribed. 👍
What I’ve done at remote locations is bring a small 5-port Ethernet switch and cat5 cables. I then use my laptop to connect to MeLE using Windows Remote Desktop. I power it all using an Anker Powerbank 535 which has 512Wh and can usually power my gear for two nights on a full charge.
Thanks Jason. I have one arriving today, so good to find this. One question though, you don't explain how you access the PC at 7:46. I assume you plugged a keyboard and mouse into one of the USB slots and then an HDMI monitor?
Thank you for the great video. Have you had the chance to use it under the stars? That proprietary USB C connector is a big hurdle for Pegasus powerbox users.
@@hael8680 Good luck! I've been very pleasantly surprised. Makes me think Win11 is more of a visual update than any sort of major change under the hood. So far everything has just worked.
Hello Jason, very nice video, thanks for sharing. I am new on this, this setup is just to control all the astrorig remotely? Or can I control the mini pc with Nina from my tablet/phone?...is there any app to do it?...I am always in the field and just want to replace my laptop. Thanks for any help. Clear skies
Do you mean "Wake on LAN"? Yes it does, and it's "On" by default in the BIOS. It also has an "Auto-On" power option so that it will automatically restart after an unexpected power outage.
Actually now that I re-read your question I think you were asking about the second part. Yes, it has that, but it's "Off" by default. In the BIOS it's found under "ADVANCED" -> "Customer Exclusive Functions" -> "Auto Power On".
How do you get it to fully boot up in the field without a monitor hooked up to it? I find it stops to a logging screen if it goes headless even if it doesn't have any password.
For the initial powering on, I used an HDMi cable form the mini PC to a monitor, and wireless keyboard and mouse that used USB dongles and a wired ethernet connection. After I got the windows updates installed, I enabled Wi-Fi and Remote Desktop access. Then for the rest of the video as I was installing and using CPWI, NINA, and PHD2 I was doing it all over remote desktop via Wi-Fi.
Hi Jason, thanks for sharing this video. One question, thou: The MeLe appeared to perform very fast when uploading windows/software. Was that the case or it was because you speeded up things to short the video? I’ve my eyes in this mini-pc. Thanks! Diego
There were a few places I sped it up, and I tried to mention that when I did. In general I did find it snappy and responsive, and I did most of the video over a Remote Desktop session using Wi-Fi.
What is a better choice, the Quieter 3 or the Quieter 2? I want to buy one of those silent pc for only: web browsing, watching anime and youtube - no gaming. I'm worried the Quieter 3 gets too hot? what do you recommend more? thank you very much.
@@earlteigrob9211 Based on my experience so far in astrophotography usage I don't think any additional cooling is needed, particularly since the conditions in which it's used are outside and at night, so ideal conditions for ambient heat dissipation.
@@JethroXP Even in my case it was probably fine without heat sinks but for those that feel more comfortable this is a very simple and cost effective choice.
@@JethroXP I have the ASIAIR as well, got this PC to try out NINA. Will probably dedicate it to my SCT and still use the ASIAIR for my other scopes. Thanks for the nice review!
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Thanks for the video! Do you have any insights yet as to how this little guy performs out in the open? humidity? temperature cycling? I couldn't find a link to a manual to look up specs. or is it perhaps even specified to be operable in outdoor conditions? thanks!
Specs and users reviews can be found on their website:
store.mele.cn/products/mele-fanless-mini-pc-quieter3q-n5105-windows-11-pro-micro-computer-8gb-ddr4-256gb-rom-small-desktop-computers-for-office-home-dual-hdmi-4k-60hz-bt5-2-wi-fi-6-usb3-0-ethernet-port-vesa-mount
In my experience it performs better outside because of cooling. When I was doing a lot of windows updates at my desk I noticed it was running very slow, Windows Task Manager showed the CPU at 100% but only 200MHz (0.2GHz) and then I felt the case and it was very hot. I put one of those lunchbox blue ice blocks on it from my freezer and within seconds it had sped up to over 3.4GHz. I've never noticed that behavior outside where there is better airflow around it. For Astro use it's been rock solid, so much so that I recently purchased a second one, the newer Quieter 4 to run a second rig.
Thanks for the quick reply! @@JethroXP I couldn't find any environmental guardrails on the company's site for the model, like you would sometimes read in a manual (Operating conditions: -40 to +50 degrees C, up to 80% rel humidity... such a thing). But thanks for sharing your experience! Seems that any humidity or cold temperature that might get inside would be handled by the unit warming itself up 🙂
@@drfritz142 it will definitely be running above ambient temp when powered on, so the internal environment of the device will always be above the local dew point. As a related anecdote, the MiniPC I have on my permanent pier telescope recently stopped working due to a power spike (not a MeLE, this was a Beelink with a fan). It had been outside for nearly three years (inside a SkyShedPod dome) so when I opened it up to harvest SSD drive for use elsewhere I was shocked to see the internals were pristine, not a spec of dust or debris anywhere, like it was brand new. I’ve assembled and maintained my own PCs for 30 years and I’ve never seen a PC in use that long be that clean on the inside. Gave me the realization that for a PC, being outside is a cleaner environment than inside under a desk where things like dust and pet hair collect. Made me realize there is really very little to worry about with these miniPCs for Astro use because in the conditions we use our telescopes are also good for these devices.
@@JethroXP 😎 interesting!
I just bought this machine. Looking forward to it!
Nice Jason. I've decided to pick up a mini PC for one of my rigs and this is one of the models I've been looking at. Thanks for the video.
nice. I just set mine up. excited to get my first light this weekend.
Good alternative to Zwo since you can only use their cameras. Planning on running something like this with svbony cameras with Nina, since they are a little more affordable.
Good vidéo. I have the same configuration. But for me the guide camera as120mm not work in Phd2 with windows11!! Mandatory to change this camera.
Thanks for sharing. I hope the set up has worked well in practice. Have you any guidance for those needing to control such a mini pc via wired Ethernet rather than wi-fi? Good luch usingbthe equipment. Have subscribed. 👍
What I’ve done at remote locations is bring a small 5-port Ethernet switch and cat5 cables. I then use my laptop to connect to MeLE using Windows Remote Desktop. I power it all using an Anker Powerbank 535 which has 512Wh and can usually power my gear for two nights on a full charge.
Thanks Jason. I have one arriving today, so good to find this. One question though, you don't explain how you access the PC at 7:46. I assume you plugged a keyboard and mouse into one of the USB slots and then an HDMI monitor?
no worries, just saw your answer below.
Yes, Patriot Astro rocks!
Thank you for the great video. Have you had the chance to use it under the stars? That proprietary USB C connector is a big hurdle for Pegasus powerbox users.
I haven't yet, but I did pick up these for that purpose:
www.amazon.com/gp/product/B096LNJB1F/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
@@JethroXP What OS is on your main computer? Win10?
I ordered the computer. Still wary of Win11 compatibility...
@@hael8680 Yup, Win10 Pro
@@hael8680 Good luck! I've been very pleasantly surprised. Makes me think Win11 is more of a visual update than any sort of major change under the hood. So far everything has just worked.
Hello Jason, very nice video, thanks for sharing. I am new on this, this setup is just to control all the astrorig remotely? Or can I control the mini pc with Nina from my tablet/phone?...is there any app to do it?...I am always in the field and just want to replace my laptop. Thanks for any help. Clear skies
Hi, does it have a "boot ob power" option in the bios? it is important for remotely use for me.
Do you mean "Wake on LAN"? Yes it does, and it's "On" by default in the BIOS. It also has an "Auto-On" power option so that it will automatically restart after an unexpected power outage.
Actually now that I re-read your question I think you were asking about the second part. Yes, it has that, but it's "Off" by default. In the BIOS it's found under "ADVANCED" -> "Customer Exclusive Functions" -> "Auto Power On".
@@JethroXP yes, auto power on sounds good😃 thank you
Cool setup!
How do you get it to fully boot up in the field without a monitor hooked up to it? I find it stops to a logging screen if it goes headless even if it doesn't have any password.
I use a laptop or my desktop in the house to access it over Wi-Fi using Windows Remote Desktop.
Great video.
I just bought one of these to replace my 7-year-old computer. Looks like it will be a big improvement. That is one big-ass safe... Gun safe?
Did you need To connect anything in the HDMI port to see the mini PC screen on your laptop?
For the initial powering on, I used an HDMi cable form the mini PC to a monitor, and wireless keyboard and mouse that used USB dongles and a wired ethernet connection. After I got the windows updates installed, I enabled Wi-Fi and Remote Desktop access. Then for the rest of the video as I was installing and using CPWI, NINA, and PHD2 I was doing it all over remote desktop via Wi-Fi.
I use Windows Remote Desktop over WiFi or LAN to see the PC screen. Works like a champ.
Hi Jason, thanks for sharing this video. One question, thou: The MeLe appeared to perform very fast when uploading windows/software. Was that the case or it was because you speeded up things to short the video?
I’ve my eyes in this mini-pc.
Thanks! Diego
There were a few places I sped it up, and I tried to mention that when I did. In general I did find it snappy and responsive, and I did most of the video over a Remote Desktop session using Wi-Fi.
What is a better choice, the Quieter 3 or the Quieter 2? I want to buy one of those silent pc for only: web browsing, watching anime and youtube - no gaming. I'm worried the Quieter 3 gets too hot? what do you recommend more? thank you very much.
The specifications for the CPUs have the same thermal performance, so I'd go for the Q3 since it's using the faster CPU.
As I posted, add stick on heat sinks and your heat concerns are over.
@@earlteigrob9211 Based on my experience so far in astrophotography usage I don't think any additional cooling is needed, particularly since the conditions in which it's used are outside and at night, so ideal conditions for ambient heat dissipation.
@@JethroXP Even in my case it was probably fine without heat sinks but for those that feel more comfortable this is a very simple and cost effective choice.
Mine is working great with Nina, ascom and everything else
Awesome! It's definitely a nice, compact option and a great alternative to a proprietary solution like the ASIAIR.
@@JethroXP I have the ASIAIR as well, got this PC to try out NINA. Will probably dedicate it to my SCT and still use the ASIAIR for my other scopes. Thanks for the nice review!