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Hello, I'm Nicholas Di Lorenzo, Studio Owner, Mixing and Mastering engineer at Panorama Studios.
I'm an Italian-Australian born and raised in Melbourne. I've been a creative professional for 10 years managing some pretty awesome projects for artists, labels and producers all around the globe.
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A thing I never understood about the lowpass the side channel: If your song ends up playing in from a mono speaker or from a stereo set but listening from a far or whatever. You will only hear the mono sub/bass frequencies anyway. Because the side low stuff cancels itself out. But in headphones you will most definitely hear the sub side information. So by putting a highpass on the sides on the master effectively just makes the experience worse for the headphone user. The user listening on a mono speaker will not hear the low side stuff anyway. Then an argument could be made that you will gain headroom by cutting out side low information, but whenever i test it it doesnt always create more headroom, but often times creates less headroom because of the phase shift in the filter.
I agree with you foe the most part. The biggest issue with anti-phase low frequency info (especially when it has lots of transients) is that it’s difficult / potentially impossible to cut to a lacquer.
It’s a great plugin. I don’t buy many plugins but after using it for 3 weeks it’s a keeper
Bang on; did some absolute life-saving work yesterday on an album where the mixes were printed back in 2013 and couldn't be recalled!
Bought this excellent plugin few months ago and it was my first ever plugin i bought after demoing for less than a minute………… it fixed my low end problems I couldn’t fix any other way in my mix! Am i wrong that it addresses and fixing “Phase Rotation shifts” at multiple low band frequencies independently?😊😅 anyway Great vid guys! Thanks a lot!
To be honest; I'm not sure exactly how it addresses and fixes it; !
Thanks for watching mate :)
Extremely curious what “other plug ins” were being discusssed for fixing the anti phase nature of certain samples. And echoing the curiosity of the phase rotation shift execution.
Overall, extremely sick session here and as a Unisum owner, made this purchase that had been on the consideration list an instant must have. Thank you both x
What you guys talk about around the 20 minute mark was shown on Illangelo's Mix With the Masters, it was a sound he was after for The Weeknd's After Hours song.
Nice! Thanks for sharing!
I love your presentation face. If you were a pilot on an airline I would be confused, but it's strangely entertaining in the context of learning music mixing.
Definitely an incredible conversation. Thank you both
Glad you enjoyed it! Our pleasure!
A must have for quick effective results.
Bang on!
Got this plugin, it dose what they say…
But if I use it in Cubase 12 … Cubase will not close, must force quit. But it dose not crash the program…. Just annoying.
But a great tool like no other.. It just works….👍
Thanks for sharing; I'll flag this with Rune and Ian!
we're moving bits of data in audio because digital is math. This problem that occurs in the low end, like an aliasing that happens with samples themselves in audio, whereas analog does not have those artifacts. This is a real find.
Please elaborate!
I love and use all the Tone Project plugins, but isn't the linear phase causing pre-ringing ?
In this circumstance no; the filters aren't hyper steep OR agressive; because mid-side processing is a result/process of rotating the polarity of the phase in order to encode and decode the signal which is manipulated; it's important that the phase of the two signals L/R & M/S always remain accurate so when they fold back down to L/R the image isn't shifted;
@@panorama_mastering aha yes i get it. Excellent, thanks for the response 👍
A high pass filter does not flip the stereo image. Surprising a mastering engineer thinks that’s how phase works. I agree with what he’s saying about minimum phase filters and mid/side processing, but geez take a bit to understand what phase is.
If it’s minimum phase and it’s only on the side channel it absolutely does. If it’s stereo it does not. If it’s linear phase it does not. Take a bit to understand what mid/side is and how important polarity, and ergo phase, is in that setup :)
Btw, this isn’t some speculation on my part: you can easily test and demonstrate this for yourself! I encourage you to try it.
Let's go.
THANKS MATE!
What’s that third party software he’s using to analyze/test the phase relation in PRO-Q3?
plugin doctor
Even the freeware is awesome. It doesn't save mixes, it makes them!
BANG ON!
One does not simply blurs the Basslane xD
haha ! Damn! This is a killer interview with one of the minds behind this plugin! So many great nuggets!
@@panorama_mastering Great stuff... Paired with DrMS it's a sprinkle of Gold dust. Can't wait to hear the interview 😁👍
I just wish someone could teach me this plugin in details
Ian and Rune are planning a series of indepth wallthroughs on it!
NEVER LOL
Cus I never do that dumb ass trick
haha clam down;
Its what happens when mixing is no longee part of the art and the mastering engineer becomes the mixer. Mastering used to be simply a check/tweak and constraining the final finished mix into the intended final medium eg vinyl/tape/cd/stream etc.
Now the mastering engineer waves a magic wand. Polishing a turd is never the same wiping the dust off gold...send the tracks back and get the mix engineer to go back to school...summing/bass in mono throughout the mix process is 101. I havent tried the plug...im sure its great..but something is missing in the workflow dont u think???
i definitely see where you’re coming from, and as an artist as well as a mixing/mastering engineer, it also comes from being isolated creatively and not having a pair impartial and educated ears to bounce songs off of. even if people can master themselves, the biggest value in a mastering engineer is those ears and the critiques that lead to mix revisions. it definitely took me longer to progress to where i am now as an engineer because for a long portion of that time i didn’t have ears around me i could trust
that being said, im interested in this plugin for mix purposes, i think it would be a little heavy handed for mastering duties but for sound design in the mix? this looks amazing.
@@kenny6105 True...I will give it a go...but seriously though...anything below 100 is sensory/kinetic energy and you dont want to be making it working against itself; look at the percentage of >sub listeners (0.05%)? and despite that...the psychoacoustic next order harmonic is far more directional and worthwhile mastering for "phat" and spread bass 🙂
@@kenny6105 Absolutely...its a long road and we only have 24hrs in a day...music is the important thing, the rest supports that but I remember very early on, Bob Katz had a couple of references that he said onlly needed compliance (my paraphrase) which enlightened me a lot...hence my rave above. I did some projects with eg Bernie Grudmann etc. TBH...I was hoping they would wave a magic wand...but they didnt. I then did projects where I used Paul Frindle (SSL/Oxford mastermind and absolute nicest helpful guy) and learnt way more from 1 track than the previous project. He was straight up, told me the issues; and schooled me on some basic mix engineering. Worth his weight in gold!
Mono bass IS 101. Adding width to bass is for the experts...