The Best Chords to Follow Chord III (in Major Keys) - Music Composition

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  • @realchrisma
    @realchrisma 2 месяца назад

    In most popular music I see the third chord as a minor chord (iii). I came upon a few songs with a major third chord (III), and I really liked it. Glad to see it works on so many levels. Thanks.

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  • @cstaeger
    @cstaeger 2 года назад +1

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  • @Ziel23987
    @Ziel23987 2 года назад

    This is one of those things that completely baffle me. It seems that there are two school of thought about chord progressions. Some people say that anything goes, and if it sounds good, it probably makes sense. The other insists on strictly following V-I, or maybe II-V-I. If there is a VI, it's only used to progress a fifth down. And if there are any other chords, you are probably tonicizing via secondary dominants. It's very restrictive, but I have no clue how to connect those two methods. I'd love to see more on this topic

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Basically if it sounds good do it! There’s not really a prescriptive method insisting on V-I or anything else but there are things that work well in certain situations if you want to use them.

  • @pathaks1
    @pathaks1 Месяц назад

    Class creative progression ❤

  • @annettesomers7463
    @annettesomers7463 2 года назад +1

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  • @abagatelle
    @abagatelle 2 года назад

    I *used* to be one of those (intimidated by iii), but not anymore! Thanks a heap Gareth 👍

  • @TomBelknapRoc
    @TomBelknapRoc 2 года назад

    These videos where you play through chord progressions are just hugely helpful because instead of randomly poking around, I'm able to walk through it more deliberately with a huge number of notes along the way about voice leading! I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing minor keys as well? Which begs a question: how do you know you're playing, say, iii-vi-I in major and not vi-i-iii in the minor key, harmonically speaking? This question came up when I realized that picking through chord progressions I liked in various modes, I realized I'd actually just found I-IV-V in the major key!

    • @BinaryBard64
      @BinaryBard64 2 года назад +1

      It's mainly about context. In terms of a Cadence, you'd probably consider it iii - vi - I, because the final chord is usually your tonic.
      VI - i - III would be an odd Cadence, since those chords all have a tonic function, but it could be a cool progression in the right context!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      😀Minor key videos on their way.

  • @Algoritmarte
    @Algoritmarte 2 года назад +1

    An important role is playef by how the "high" part of the progression moves (and how inversions are used) ... I bet everything could sound good in the right context and with a careful choice of the inversions/movement. And probably it's because when you start chaining chords without a melody/context the mind starts building/imagining a "melody* and also the expectation/surprise process begins

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Some things work better than others but sure the art is in working out all those details of positions/ inversions/ voice leading.

  • @amusicveteran
    @amusicveteran 2 года назад

    Strangely enough this gives me the permission to try any progressions without feeling guilty of transgressing musical rules! There are some sequences I like but don’t use because it’s not the prescribed and traditional ones. Context I suppose. Thanks again for opening my musical mind.

  • @NinjaSheepa
    @NinjaSheepa 2 года назад

    thank you nice vid

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  • @ephjaymusic
    @ephjaymusic 2 года назад +1

    I always start with chord III but then repeat it as the dominant 7th of the relative minor key...😝 Aha!!! Cheap modulation unlocked lol!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      Good thought

    • @martinbennett2228
      @martinbennett2228 2 года назад

      Do you add a ♯ in the 7th chord e.g. (in C) G natural to G♯ plus an added D?

    • @ephjaymusic
      @ephjaymusic 2 года назад +1

      @@martinbennett2228 Yes you can if you want... E G# B D = E7
      My cheeky comment was about playing Em, E7, Am then whatever else you fancy... You can even slip in the E7 when playing a chord progression in C major. It brings an interesting flavour to sometimes exchange certain triads for their minor/major counterparts. Especially if you play the 7th chord of those counterparts.
      Eg: C - A7 - Dm - F - C - Fm6 - C 🙂
      Pay attention to voicings!

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      😀

  • @MiNDFREAK371379
    @MiNDFREAK371379 2 года назад

    These are by far some of my favorite videos ever! Is there one for minor scales? If not, is it coming soon? 🙂

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      All on their way.

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      @MiNDFREAK371379 2 года назад

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    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      😀

  • @jeremiahlyleseditor437
    @jeremiahlyleseditor437 2 года назад

    Great Job
    Is there a reason you posted the same video twice?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      It’s a different video as part of a series covering every diatonic chord in both major and minor keys

  • @robinmartini7968
    @robinmartini7968 2 года назад

    That was a lot fun! But funny how whenever a 3 chord sequence starts with a III and ends with a II or IV it needs completion. I’m sure you could explain this.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Hi. The reason for this is that II and IV are not moments of repose in the way that I and V are. I and V are the closing chords of cadences and therefore feel like chords of completion.

    • @robinmartini7968
      @robinmartini7968 2 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB thanks for your reply, I thought as much but it’s nice to have it confirmed 😃

  • @JoelLaviolette
    @JoelLaviolette 2 года назад

    As a jazz fan, I’m surprised to not see what I consider the two most common uses: a turnaround iii iv ii V and descending chromatically iii biii dim ii

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      It’s good to hear additions from jazzers.

  • @the_eternal_student
    @the_eternal_student Год назад

    I saw you move by hidden fifths at least once in the iii I progressions, is there anything to say about this? Is it one of those cases of things being resolved by implied outer-inner voice crossing ( the b has an implied movement up to c from sopr. to alto in the motion from iii up to I)?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      If you were writing the harmony you could easily do this without 5ths

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    @javierh.d.9626 2 года назад

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  • @Trash-Beats
    @Trash-Beats 2 года назад

    Young man pls when will you do minor chords btw thanks for this one watching from Zimbabwe

  • @SquidKing
    @SquidKing 2 года назад

    Do these all work for Bach chorales? My teacher said never to end with plagal cadences

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      These often work in Bach Chorales but it all depends on the context. Plagal cadences are indeed rare in Bach Chorales.

  • @josephinebrown6631
    @josephinebrown6631 Год назад

    1 is the chord progression in “All of Me.”

  • @stephenbashforth8257
    @stephenbashforth8257 2 года назад

    Hi Gareth,
    you didn't mention chord vii - would a iii - vii7b - IV work? (SATB notes E G B E/ F A B D / F A C F?

  • @the_eternal_student
    @the_eternal_student Год назад

    Are you basically using iii as a tonic substitute? You seem to be alluding to it at 5:34. If so, are you ever using it as a V substitute?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      In the sense that two notes of iii belong to I and that two notes of iii belong to V, yes. Any chord a 3rd below or a 3rd above can substitute in this way so it’s a useful way to think about it.

    • @the_eternal_student
      @the_eternal_student Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Is there anything to say about the modal mixture of bIII and the chromatic use of III (major triad), except that it happens? Can we assume that it was a common feature since Baroque times, if not the Renaissance?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      III major followed by vi obviously functions as a secondary dominant. BIII is less common, particularly in relation to earlier music.

    • @the_eternal_student
      @the_eternal_student Год назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Does a chromatic major III coming from major I and going to V and chromatic major VI from I and going to IV function as a tonic, predominant, or both? Is it neot essential to the development of music that there be a publication or piece of software that lists the melodies of all of a major composer's works, from solo instrumental to dramatic vocal music, categorized by the accompanying chord progresssions such as these? Is there already such resources?, because I do not have time to create them myself.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  Год назад

      Those chord progressions are all possible. I’m not aware of such a resource.

  • @martinbennett2228
    @martinbennett2228 2 года назад

    Why have you left out VII? Is it because you are not using second inversions? I think IIIb - VIIb - Ib makes a strong cadence with a V IV III base line.

  • @ahknown2755
    @ahknown2755 2 года назад

    Does this same sequence of chords work the same for different modes?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Some do. Some don’t. Work with what sounds good

  • @FernieCanto
    @FernieCanto 2 года назад

    I believe the main reason why there's this "terrorism" against the iii chords is because of this dreaded obsession with classical music. In traditional classical music, the iii chord is pretty much never used in major keys, mainly because it features the leading tone, and the leading tone implies dominant function. So, the only chord that's built on the third degree of the scale is I6.
    And then, because some teachers think that *all* music has to behave like classical, they expand this "lesson" into every style of music out there, despite the fact that iii is *quite* common and ordinary in popular music. Yeah, it's not one of the most common chords, but it's super easy to find it out there in the wild. And when we're talking about popular music, then this concern about parallel octaves and fifths ceases to be a concern at all, because popular music _does not care_ about parallels. So, planing down from iii to ii, for example, is fair game in most popular music.
    Those 15 examples are pretty good for debunking the "fear" of iii, but, when we get into more chromatic examples, things become even better. iii can lead very nicely into III, or III7, working as a secondary dominant of vi, or for actually modulating to the relative minor. And then, there's that classic passing diminished chord to make a nice iii - biii° - ii motion, which can sound really lovely. And you can also throw in some modal mixture by going iii - bIII - bVII, for example. There just so much to do with that chord. However, thanks to the tyrants of classical, you get this idea that the chord is "rare" or "forbidden". Imagine being unfamiliar with Adele's Someone Like You, whose *second* chord is an inverted iii?

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      I don’t want to be partisan and support the anti-Classical argument but I’m certainly with you in campaigning for the liberation of iii.

    • @FernieCanto
      @FernieCanto 2 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB Oh, by all means, it's not about being anti-classical! In fact, studying classical theory is one important way of understanding how pop harmony turned into its own thing, and what are its own differences.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      😀

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  • @rockychieng88
    @rockychieng88 2 года назад

    In jazz chord 3 is basically chord 1 with added 7th.

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад +1

      III is I7 without the root.

    • @rockychieng88
      @rockychieng88 2 года назад +1

      @@MusicMattersGB my apologies

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      No reason to apologise. What’s interesting is that the two chords have three notes in common so they’re very close and interchangeable.

    • @rockychieng88
      @rockychieng88 2 года назад

      @@MusicMattersGB 3 and 4, 3 and 5 chord sounds awesome. For jazzy, Ab dominant 7 or Ab Diminished sounds ok to chord 3. A lot of possibilities

    • @MusicMattersGB
      @MusicMattersGB  2 года назад

      Absolutely