My Two -way radio repairman used to tell me , if a house nearby gets new aluminum siding ( 1980"s) or new gutters and downspouts, it might change the reception of our business radio and he might need to come out and adjust my output antenna slightly to compensate. He was an ex military radio repairman and he said everything metal moving or stationary changes the way radio waves move , so frequent adjusting is a normal part of his work. He was very good at his craft, his office looked like a mad scientist laboratory.
Over the years I've learned anything can get in the way of a TV signal. A LED light bulb, fluorescent light, HVAC system, or your friendly neighborhood CB user will make your OTR TV world a living hell.
Yep, even a small nail in a specific place in a wall. Sounds far fetched, but wasn’t a thought until I tried everything. Ended the flickering pixels on some channels.
My experience: I have trees between my antenna and most broadcast towers. Most of the time reception is fine, but on windy days when trees are swaying in the wind, some channels are unreliable.
I have "seasonal channels" that I only get in winter when the trees are bare. Rural areas got shafted by the switch to digital, then shafted even worse by the most recent repack.
In my area, the company that owns the wind farm will pay for paid satellite television (with locals included) to people affected by the signal chop by the turbines.
We have an air national guard which do manuvers on Thursday nights with their Blackhawk helocopters. Trust me this impacts reception, usually you hear a chopper and the TV starts cutting out. I imagine it is the same thing with the turbines.
Wind Turbines can interfere with reception primarily if your signal is weak and the Turbines are directly between your home and the TV towers. Other things like trees between your home and TV towers and also neighborhood power lines and some home electronics can also interfere with OTA TV reception.
Tyler, actually a solar power system can be very detrimental to TV reception. It's not the panels but the power inverter they connect to. Some aren't too bad. But others make massive amounts of interference. Many things in the modern home make radio interference, coffee maker, furnace blower controller, battery charger, you name it, a modern device, including the TV set, contains a switching mode power supply and they make gobs of radio energy. Some are much quieter than others, designed & filtered well. Others are horrible. TV frequencies are normally far enough away to be affected but for an especially bad or higher power device such as a solar power inverter, they can wipe out TV reception.
Is this the first time the video was kept running and posted while taking down the rabbit ears and turning off the background TV? I wonder if it was just a fluke and he didn't catch it, or if it's a sign about the coming major changes.
I was about to comment the same thing. Looks like Tyler wanted people who saw to the very end to comment about this or something. Whatever the changes are, I hope they benefit the channel for the better.
I was in Lake Wallenpaupack, PA & absolutely no signals detected on 1.0 or 3.0. I was surprised Scranton stations did not make it there. I also went o Milford, PA & barely got one junk station from Sussex, NJ.
For people north of Jim Thorpe, Pa. Windmills are scheduled to be installed, so that's what the talk is, on the mountain next to Jim Thorpe which will affect signals coming from Allentown and Philly stations. Those that live in Hazleton, Beaver Meadows, Freeland, White Haven and surrounding communities that use an over the air antenna will probably be affected. Voice your concern.
A friend of mine lives about a mile and a half away from a helicopter training facility. The copters are always messing up her signal. So it makes sense that wind turbines will do the same.
I remember NASA building a wind turbine on a mountaintop in Boone, NC in 1979 and it not only negatively interfered with the TV reception there but also made a loud "whoosh" sound that could be heard all over town. Given that many people there didn't have cable TV and relied on whatever they could receive with TV antennas for TV reception during that time (which in general is very bad unless you're on a mountaintop given that the terrain is mountainous in Northwestern NC), it was more of a nuisance than an asset that incited many complaints from area residents and the wind turbine ended up being a failure and an example of a serious waste of money.
also I remembered that wind turbines also existed in philippines like bangui in ilocos norte. as a result, analog and digital tv signal may affect reception near bangui in ilocos norte 🤣🌬️
Reception has always been strange sometimes they antenna has to be high. Sometimes it has to be low. I put my outside antenna in weird places and it gets better reception like it's some type of reflection
What about low altitude airplane traffic, if you live near local airports? I live near Harrisburg Capital Airport and Middletown HIA commercial airport and the planes fly between us and the TV station's towers to our north. We see infrequently signal breakup, monetary picture freezing and sometimes no signal for very brief periods.
No trouble with EMI? Electro magnetic Interference? Inverters, micro inverters, power conditioners, transfer switches are all capable of causing EMI if not designed, built and maintained correctly.
I never noticed any problems with wind turbines interfering with a signal. Maybe if you use a very directional antenne and those things are directly in your signal path. But solarpanel inverters are a completely different story. There is alot of bad inverters from china out there and they sometimes cause major interference on the entire spectrum. I use SDR so i see this frequently. This will definately impact the reception of TV and Radio especially if you use an indoor antenna.
Have huge array west of me directly between me and transmitters 45 miles away. Been here 60 years . Reception is unaffected here so I’m guessing it’s something else. There are countless things to blame today
When I turn on the kitchen lights, the FM radio reception is obliterated in my whole house. There is nothing but Noise now from all kinds of devices, not just solar panels and wind turbines!!!
At this point I don’t understand why TV broadcasters bother with big antennas and transmitters when they could EASILY broadcast their content via free streaming services worldwide. They could easily double or triple viewership, all sponsor supported. Hopefully more people will push for this and we won’t have to deal with crappy reception and/or antennas and various contraptions just to pull in TV stations.
If you don't broadcast a signal you aren't really a broadcaster. Also the FCC can hand the channel over to someone else who wants to broadcast. When I do watch TV it is with an antenna. It works fine.
An awful lot of rural people don’t have decent internet bandwidth available to them. You’d be surprised how much of the country doesn’t have adequate bandwidth for streaming. Fix that problem first, then let’s talk about unplugging broadcast television.
Dear Tyler: IMO, it's doubtful that windmills will effect TV reception of HD television by any ghosting effect. HD television is designed to ELIMINATE the ghosting of earlier NTSC System M (analog) television. Convince me otherwise. As far as Solar, if you have a JUNK solar controller, it can put out all kinds of RF and effect EVERYTHING. All the Best! 73 DE W8LV BILL
Isn't that the last line of an old Hank Williams Sr. tune usually called, "Everything's Ok" or, sometimes ,"Uncle Bill", but I suspect was originally titled, "Depression Blues" (the writing of which won him a contest and started his career)? (I'm pretty sure too the "Uncle Bill" in the lyrics was a reference to noted Democrat Will Rogers.)
We have a wind farm about 15 miles out, but so far the reception is solid as the turbines are in a narrow gap. Its usually the stormy weather that causes some interference.
Very important information that people need to know. Digital signals even with ATSC 3.0 are poorly impacted by multipath. This is going to be a greater issue in the future I suspect.
At a technical level, this can easily be mitigated by using ATSC 3.0 or 5G Broadcast instead of ATSC 1.0. But, if a utility company is forced to set up repeaters, I'm all for that.
I remember attending an SBE meeting. The discussion was on ATSC adopting 8VSB or COFDM for Hi Def transmissions. The ATSC adopted 8VSB and not COFDM. Although COFDM was better modulation type for handling multipath issues. There were SMPTE white papers on this issue at the time. Keep in mind that both modulation types along with WiFi and Bluetooth are still RF. They are all still subject to any type of RF attenuation and not bullet proof. But, RF is free and cable is not..... Tyler thanks for keeping us informed and another excellent video.
It's pretty obvious how waving around giant RF reflectors in the sky could be an issue but ATSC 3.0 should handle it better then ATSC 1.0 if our TV overlords can be believed. Speaking as a solar enthusiast, Ham radio operator, and OTA viewer I can say solar has not been a problem for me though. I had a small issue once but it was easily fixed and only effected transceivers directly attached to solar power.
Bring back NTSC analog and all these concerns will stop. Grid-tie solar circuitry creates a lot of radio interference. Normal panel use doesn't. Wind turbines are very useful even if they belong to the wrong people. Try a few solar panels, a pair of golf cart batteries, and a 12 volt chest freezer. Never wire lead batteries in parallel.
No, and sorry to disagree with you, but I don't want to go back to snowy or half-snowy and ghosty color-fringing TV reception from the analog days. I like my crystal clear HDTV with my outdoor roof-mounted antenna, thank you.
Tylar, I never thought that rotating propellers would affect the reception of free to the air signal. What puzzles me is the blades are made of fiberglass. Why would glass cause this problem Sir ??? Thanks fella too. v 😀😀
We went solar 18 months ago and it did slightly lower reception but a good amplifier compensated. AM and Shortwave reception however, suffered greatly. Noise during daylight hours and diminished reception all around.
I have wind turbines all around me I was getting some local channels. My bet channels in the 10.1-10.6 just quit working those are networks are they updating here in North east Nebraska. Is there a way to check on that? I’ve not heard anything about it.
The issue with solar is that its not just the panel, a lot has to do with the inverter. If the inverter is cheaply made they can produce a lot of RF interference which will interfere with the TV signal.
Thanks for the info. I want to install solar pannels this summer and I also have antennas for FM/VHF/UHF reception, I was wondering how the TV/Radio reception will be impacted.
in other words too much multipath cause the tuner gets too much confused than can't deal even with the guard interval set up by the broadcaster. the multipath caused by the turbines and the heavy impulsive electrical noise destroy the signals based on QAM/structure.
I remember the analog days where a prop plane would fly above my parent house and cause the signal to be choppy and wavy. Did a cool effect but also annoying when watching simpsons.
Out at my summer camper we only get about four stations and to be honest only one reliable one. The wind turbines have in fact made things worse. On the upside I really don't sit around watching TV when I am out in the country.
My Two -way radio repairman used to tell me , if a house nearby gets new aluminum siding ( 1980"s) or new gutters and downspouts, it might change the reception of our business radio and he might need to come out and adjust my output antenna slightly to compensate. He was an ex military radio repairman and he said everything metal moving or stationary changes the way radio waves move , so frequent adjusting is a normal part of his work. He was very good at his craft, his office looked like a mad scientist laboratory.
I stuck around until the end. Woah, hopefully no bad changes happening and that its more for the better.
I agree. Change happens, but I just hope we aren't losing one of the most educational and entertaining channels on YT.
Me too!!!
Over the years I've learned anything can get in the way of a TV signal. A LED light bulb, fluorescent light, HVAC system, or your friendly neighborhood CB user will make your OTR TV world a living hell.
All this progress is going to be the death of me
Yep, even a small nail in a specific place in a wall.
Sounds far fetched, but wasn’t a thought until I tried everything. Ended the flickering pixels on some channels.
All the things you've mentioned have killed indoor AM reception for all but the strongest stations.
I live under a common approach path of an airport. Each plane passing by temporarily messes with my signal on most channels.
@@impossiblescissors Who the hell uses AM these days.
My experience: I have trees between my antenna and most broadcast towers. Most of the time reception is fine, but on windy days when trees are swaying in the wind, some channels are unreliable.
Ours too.
I have "seasonal channels" that I only get in winter when the trees are bare. Rural areas got shafted by the switch to digital, then shafted even worse by the most recent repack.
In my area, the company that owns the wind farm will pay for paid satellite television (with locals included) to people affected by the signal chop by the turbines.
Very interesting!
one day they can just say no.
Thanks for informing us about this topic.
We have an air national guard which do manuvers on Thursday nights with their Blackhawk helocopters. Trust me this impacts reception, usually you hear a chopper and the TV starts cutting out. I imagine it is the same thing with the turbines.
Repeaters are cheap to set up and maintain but you're right. They won't go to the trouble if people do not request they do so.
COFDM is immune to this type of multipath. I used it when I was working at Fox 32 TV in a ENG truck downtown Chicago.
Nothing is immune, some technologies handle it better. MIMO B uses it to an advantage
Wind Turbines can interfere with reception primarily if your signal is weak and the Turbines are directly between your home and the TV towers. Other things like trees between your home and TV towers and also neighborhood power lines and some home electronics can also interfere with OTA TV reception.
Thanks! your channel is very helpful and appreciated :)
Tyler, actually a solar power system can be very detrimental to TV reception. It's not the panels but the power inverter they connect to. Some aren't too bad. But others make massive amounts of interference. Many things in the modern home make radio interference, coffee maker, furnace blower controller, battery charger, you name it, a modern device, including the TV set, contains a switching mode power supply and they make gobs of radio energy. Some are much quieter than others, designed & filtered well. Others are horrible. TV frequencies are normally far enough away to be affected but for an especially bad or higher power device such as a solar power inverter, they can wipe out TV reception.
100%. And VHF, especially low-VHF signals are affected the most by these things.
Good quality inverters tend to radiate a lot less. Remember that the FCC set limits that they claim they are following.
Antenna man🇺🇸👍🏻
Major changes coming to Antenna Man? what the heck
Is this the first time the video was kept running and posted while taking down the rabbit ears and turning off the background TV? I wonder if it was just a fluke and he didn't catch it, or if it's a sign about the coming major changes.
Thanks for watching the video to the very end. Yes, a major change will take place on my RUclips channel next week.
I was about to comment the same thing. Looks like Tyler wanted people who saw to the very end to comment about this or something.
Whatever the changes are, I hope they benefit the channel for the better.
For a second there I thought you were going to smash something. 😅
Well I'm curious as to your changes.But it's hard to change success!
Thanks!
I was in Lake Wallenpaupack, PA & absolutely no signals detected on 1.0 or 3.0. I was surprised Scranton stations did not make it there. I also went o Milford, PA & barely got one junk station from Sussex, NJ.
For people north of Jim Thorpe, Pa. Windmills are scheduled to be installed, so that's what the talk is, on the mountain next to Jim Thorpe which will affect signals coming from Allentown and Philly stations. Those that live in Hazleton, Beaver Meadows, Freeland, White Haven and surrounding communities that use an over the air antenna will probably be affected. Voice your concern.
Thank you for informing
A friend of mine lives about a mile and a half away from a helicopter training facility. The copters are always messing up her signal. So it makes sense that wind turbines will do the same.
How would repeaters work in an area like Philadelphia PA where the TV band is chock full of stations already?
I looked away for a second and looked back on you taking antenna off etc..lol..thought I was looking at a gag reel or something..lol..
Yes, it's to symbolize a major change on my RUclips channel this coming week.
@@AntennaManyeah I got that…can’t wait to see!
I remember NASA building a wind turbine on a mountaintop in Boone, NC in 1979 and it not only negatively interfered with the TV reception there but also made a loud "whoosh" sound that could be heard all over town. Given that many people there didn't have cable TV and relied on whatever they could receive with TV antennas for TV reception during that time (which in general is very bad unless you're on a mountaintop given that the terrain is mountainous in Northwestern NC), it was more of a nuisance than an asset that incited many complaints from area residents and the wind turbine ended up being a failure and an example of a serious waste of money.
Thank you!
My HVAC system keeps messing up my channels on my indoor antenna. Is there anything I can do to fix that?
Thanks for sharing
also I remembered that wind turbines also existed in philippines like bangui in ilocos norte. as a result, analog and digital tv signal may affect reception near bangui in ilocos norte 🤣🌬️
Thanks
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2:45 I just . . . w0t!?!?
Devastating cliffhanger, man 🥺
turbines screw with ham / cb radio also
Reception has always been strange sometimes they antenna has to be high. Sometimes it has to be low. I put my outside antenna in weird places and it gets better reception like it's some type of reflection
HAD A ROOF ANTENNA FOR 10+ years. Added Solar Panels last year. No issues...
What about low altitude airplane traffic, if you live near local airports? I live near Harrisburg Capital Airport and Middletown HIA commercial airport and the planes fly between us and the TV station's towers to our north. We see infrequently signal breakup, monetary picture freezing and sometimes no signal for very brief periods.
That could do it. Planes are giant metal things that can block/absorb/reflect RF.
No trouble with EMI? Electro magnetic Interference? Inverters, micro inverters, power conditioners, transfer switches are all capable of causing EMI if not designed, built and maintained correctly.
I never noticed any problems with wind turbines interfering with a signal. Maybe if you use a very directional antenne and those things are directly in your signal path. But solarpanel inverters are a completely different story. There is alot of bad inverters from china out there and they sometimes cause major interference on the entire spectrum. I use SDR so i see this frequently. This will definately impact the reception of TV and Radio especially if you use an indoor antenna.
That ending scared me…
Have huge array west of me directly between me and transmitters 45 miles away.
Been here 60 years .
Reception is unaffected here so I’m guessing it’s something else.
There are countless things to blame today
You might've gotten lucky where the signal path happens to not go through a wind turbine. Otherwise there would certainly be issues.
Teaming up with TheCableGuy?
Perhaps maybe Robbie Strike The Happy Satellite Nerd 🧐
Cliffhanger
When I turn on the kitchen lights, the FM radio reception is obliterated in my whole house. There is nothing but Noise now from all kinds of devices, not just solar panels and wind turbines!!!
Good luck living near a large railroad bridge especially when the train passes over.
Clean energy is more important than TV
At this point I don’t understand why TV broadcasters bother with big antennas and transmitters when they could EASILY broadcast their content via free streaming services worldwide. They could easily double or triple viewership, all sponsor supported. Hopefully more people will push for this and we won’t have to deal with crappy reception and/or antennas and various contraptions just to pull in TV stations.
True that. It's increasingly archaic but the major broadcasters don't want to mess with the existing revenue stream until it's no longer profitable.
TV broadcasters will never do this for reasons explained in the video: ruclips.net/video/qovBjplUF6w/видео.html
If you don't broadcast a signal you aren't really a broadcaster. Also the FCC can hand the channel over to someone else who wants to broadcast.
When I do watch TV it is with an antenna. It works fine.
An awful lot of rural people don’t have decent internet bandwidth available to them. You’d be surprised how much of the country doesn’t have adequate bandwidth for streaming. Fix that problem first, then let’s talk about unplugging broadcast television.
I'm not exactly sure how the cellular system would handle it, but in theory the cellular telephone network could be made to handle dedicated TV data.
It's wind POWER PLANT, not a farm
I think that missing Judge Judy for clean energy is worth it.
The blades are made of fibreglass .......you're starting to sound like trump on this channel blaming wind turbines for nonsense
Doesn't matter TDS sufferer. Any solid moving object effects TV reception.
Dear Tyler: IMO, it's doubtful that windmills will effect TV reception of HD television by any ghosting effect. HD television is designed to ELIMINATE the ghosting of earlier NTSC System M (analog) television. Convince me otherwise. As far as Solar, if you have a JUNK solar controller, it can put out all kinds of RF and effect EVERYTHING. All the Best! 73 DE W8LV BILL
If you have no power, you won't need to worry about antenna reception.
Want to be happy?
Throw your tv in the garbage.
And those poor whales!
@@MichaelTheophilus906 Being chopped up by wind turbines (per Trump).
@@tomsmith2013If you're referring to birds, then yes, wind turbines do chop them up.
There are a crap ton of wind turbines in the thumb area of Michigan. I think they are monstrosities.
I’m still voting democrat
Isn't that the last line of an old Hank Williams Sr. tune usually called, "Everything's Ok" or, sometimes ,"Uncle Bill", but I suspect was originally titled, "Depression Blues" (the writing of which won him a contest and started his career)? (I'm pretty sure too the "Uncle Bill" in the lyrics was a reference to noted Democrat Will Rogers.)
You're a clown.
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Sad the wind turbines can't blow the signal further
This comment deserves more love 😂
Interesting and good information
We have a wind farm about 15 miles out, but so far the reception is solid as the turbines are in a narrow gap. Its usually the stormy weather that causes some interference.
Probably the wind farm is not in the path the TV broadcast tower. If it was, you'd see it... well not see the picture on TV.
My guess about the "major changes" is that Tyler is moving or maybe adopting a new studio to make his videos. I'm all for it.
Tyler is always fighting the good fight, keeping TV free and over the air!
Very important information that people need to know. Digital signals even with ATSC 3.0 are poorly impacted by multipath. This is going to be a greater issue in the future I suspect.
At a technical level, this can easily be mitigated by using ATSC 3.0 or 5G Broadcast instead of ATSC 1.0. But, if a utility company is forced to set up repeaters, I'm all for that.
I remember attending an SBE meeting. The discussion was on ATSC adopting 8VSB or COFDM for Hi Def transmissions. The ATSC adopted 8VSB and not COFDM. Although COFDM was better modulation type for handling multipath issues. There were SMPTE white papers on this issue at the time. Keep in mind that both modulation types along with WiFi and Bluetooth are still RF. They are all still subject to any type of RF attenuation and not bullet proof. But, RF is free and cable is not.....
Tyler thanks for keeping us informed and another excellent video.
It's pretty obvious how waving around giant RF reflectors in the sky could be an issue but ATSC 3.0 should handle it better then ATSC 1.0 if our TV overlords can be believed.
Speaking as a solar enthusiast, Ham radio operator, and OTA viewer I can say solar has not been a problem for me though. I had a small issue once but it was easily fixed and only effected transceivers directly attached to solar power.
I like how you ended that! 😎
Bring back NTSC analog and all these concerns will stop. Grid-tie solar circuitry creates a lot of radio interference. Normal panel use doesn't. Wind turbines are very useful even if they belong to the wrong people. Try a few solar panels, a pair of golf cart batteries, and a 12 volt chest freezer. Never wire lead batteries in parallel.
No, and sorry to disagree with you, but I don't want to go back to snowy or half-snowy and ghosty color-fringing TV reception from the analog days. I like my crystal clear HDTV with my outdoor roof-mounted antenna, thank you.
@@ebinrock That's OK. It's a good thing you have an unpopular opinion. My snowy pictures were when I watched Baltimore.
I made it to the end of your video. Does this mean you’re getting a new studio?
Tylar, I never thought that rotating propellers would affect the reception of free to the air signal. What puzzles me is the blades are made of fiberglass. Why would glass cause this problem Sir ??? Thanks fella too. v 😀😀
Just about any type of solid material will impact TV reception, especially if moving.
Now I know Tylar.. Would the same thing happen with the old analog system ??Thanks. @@AntennaMan
@@victoryfirst2878 Yes. Analog would show changing ghosts and static
Thanks AntennaMan. @@AntennaMan
We went solar 18 months ago and it did slightly lower reception but a good amplifier compensated.
AM and Shortwave reception however, suffered greatly. Noise during daylight hours and diminished reception all around.
I have wind turbines all around me I was getting some local channels. My bet channels in the 10.1-10.6 just quit working those are networks are they updating here in North east Nebraska. Is there a way to check on that? I’ve not heard anything about it.
The issue with solar is that its not just the panel, a lot has to do with the inverter. If the inverter is cheaply made they can produce a lot of RF interference which will interfere with the TV signal.
That was quite the ominous ending 😳
Indeed.
Im not surprissed at all if there on or near the same RF .frequencies as TV this could be a problem
So far wind and solar have not been proven to be reliable and viable because of cost
Good information
Is it the same with radio antennas? I noticed radio's has been bad since a neighbor installed a solar panel.
Change? I fear change.
Yes, a major change is coming to the RUclips channel next week
Dude..
April fool is still 3 days away😒
Thanks for the info. I want to install solar pannels this summer and I also have antennas for FM/VHF/UHF reception, I was wondering how the TV/Radio reception will be impacted.
he explains in the first one minute.
There's one thing to consider- some solar installations don't do a good job shielding radios and TVs from the battery charging apparatus.
Really interesting information
Thanks Tyler
in other words too much multipath cause the tuner gets too much confused than can't deal even with the guard interval set up by the broadcaster. the multipath caused by the turbines and the heavy impulsive electrical noise destroy the signals based on QAM/structure.
I remember the analog days where a prop plane would fly above my parent house and cause the signal to be choppy and wavy. Did a cool effect but also annoying when watching simpsons.
Out at my summer camper we only get about four stations and to be honest only one reliable one. The wind turbines have in fact made things worse. On the upside I really don't sit around watching TV when I am out in the country.
Another great Video !
No Fred, NO!
thank you ☕
My man Tyler.
I have a busy railroad close by.Moving trains scramble OTA tv.Worthless while a train is going by (most of the time). Any suggestions?
The same suggestion I made in the video - a larger antenna and/or an ATSC 3.0 tuner.
Is this true of next gen TV. Or does it just happen on 1.0.
ATSC 3.0 or NextGen TV is less prone to the multipath interfere issue from moving objects like wind turbines and trees blowing in the wind