Extra little tip. If the "paper like" surface of your Intuos gets too worn out or scratched, a tablet screen protector works well. I bought a smooth glass Galaxy tab protector for like 10$ to extend my intuos' lifespan. It also protects the nibs from wearing out so quickly as well :-)
It's awesome that I got to see this video today because I took down my XP pen 24 pro the other day and started using my intuos pro because I would catch myself leaning over a lot and my back starting to hurt while using the cintiq but now i'm able to sit upright while I work! Great video Trent!
Trent you’re a genius! I just got an Intuos and it feels so much better! Years ago as a teenager with her first paycheck I went out and got a Bamboo with the intention of learning how to draw. Armed with a knowledge of Photoshop but no drawing skills, it basically became a fancy mouse. Now that I’ve learned how to draw, I bought into the hype about screen tablets only to have neck pain from hunching over it. The driver on my Bamboo are too outdated, so I decided to try the Intuos. It’s so great! Thank you!
I still use a Bamboo Connect that I bought in my second year at university (if I remember correctly they're from Wacom) and then didn't use for several years. I would go back to drawing every few years and it always worked perfectly. This year I've come back to digital drawing seriously, I thought of buying a new one, even found some cheap ones but decided that I was just fooling around, waiting until having a proper professional assemble to start taking it seriously. So I took back my Bamboo and kept practicing. Now I feel fully confident in my skills and realized how little it maters to have a big ass screen tablet. I'm happy with mine and won't consider change it until it stops working. And probably still would buy a similar one instead of with screen.
Intous pro is still my favorite. Had the x pen pro because it was cheaper than cintiq but I realized I was still using it like a tablet and looking at my monitor rather than the tablet screen and I found it easier to draw and paint looking at the computer monitor. So I’m just sticking my with my old intous tablet and I have my iPad Pro for when I’m out and about.
im a graphic designer and digital retoucher and I've been using the xpen artist pro for the last couple of years and i love it. I changed My artista pro for the new 2nd gen 16 early this year and is an increíble upgrade.
I have an XP-PEN Deco Pro Medium for my everyday work as a graphic / product designer / photography editing. I got it baised on your review back in 2020 i think it is and love it! About 6 months a go I bought myself a Wacom Intuos Pro small so that i could work a bit more portably as the Deco Pro Meduim was taking up too much room when i was out and about. Like you say in the video, you can get used to whatever tools you use and I can feel a difference between the Deco Pro m and the Intuos Pro i can jump between the no problems. And I dont think i would say i prefer one over the other, they both fulfill the roles i have them for. Keep on being Rad Trent, your content is always great!
Yes!!!! I bought mine (I have the large version) back in 2017, and it's still just as good!! I use it for everything from 2D to 3D! My prof has been telling me to get a screen tablet, but I love my intuos pro too much 😅 I don't feel like I need to upgrade at the moment, especially since it works so well.
I’m a computer science major and do drawing and 3d modeling as a hobby but I bought a Wacom cintiq 16 back in like 2018-2019 and it’s been amazing for me. I use it as a 3rd monitor when I’m not working on a model or drawing.
Funny enough, I'm the same as you as exactly, yet I do not own a Wacom cintiq, and debating on what tablet to get, and I was looking at the intous pro medium.
Went full circle on this. Use the tablet I started out with. Invested in a "professional pen display after graduating. After about 2 years I strained my muscles around the shoulder blade severely. Looking back I think I must have had the posture of a shrimp over that thing & if you're a tall guy, I do not recommend. Frankly, I'm stunned when I see coworkers who seem just fine. A bonus tip is to get a keyboard shelf. It's dirt cheap & a really nice solution for keyboard & tablet getting in each others way. Edit; Don't be a dummy like me. I didn't think I'd have to deal with these overuse injuries as I stay fit. They sneak up on you & hits harder than one might think. Appreciate you Trent, Cheers!
I’ve had a Huion Kamvas Pro 16 for a few years now and it’s been great. I picked it up for $300 and it came with everything out of the box (glove, extra stylus tips, stand). I love the programmable quick keys it has. I also recently bought an XP Pen Artist 13 Pro. I haven’t used it as much but it’s been pretty good so far. If I’d recommend anything it would be the Tourbox Neo Controller. It’s become by favorite piece of gear and it’s really increased how fast I can make stuff. It’s been great using it with Maya, Unity, Photoshop, and Storyboard Pro since I made custom profiles for each software. I want to pick up the new version that works with the iPad Pro.
When I had a lot of pain the most relieving posture was standard tablet in my lap and with controller for shortcuts. Remapped joycon is amazing for shortcuts untill it starts to drift 😅. I also have a cintiq hd 22 and a huion kamvas pro 13 and I must say I prefer the huion for the feel. Huion has Less parallax and I also have a felt tip pen which is really nice! I hope every enjoy their drawing and don’t forget to go analog every now and then and shot off all possible distractions. Take care ❤Thank you for a great video!!!
I think the biggest point you did make was the posture thing. I prefer looking at the screen of the tablet but dang is that looking down at the tablet a horrid deal for the posture.
When I was trying out screen tablets I ran into the same issue + neck pains. After about a week of working like that it got bad enough that I couldn't work. So I kinda went back to the screenless tablet. Until then I used to hold that belief that screen tablets might just be an upgrade since you don't have to worry about your hand eye coordination the moment you move slightly in one direction. But yeah trying out one cleared up that really quickly
I personally prefer screen tablet and had terrible neck pain with it. Nowadays I keep it almost vertical when I draw. it took a bit getting used to but I dont feel any pain anymore. I think best combo would be both. Screen tablet for sketching and regular for paintnig
I have a Kamvas 22 hooked up to my pc setup that I don't even have plugged on half the time because I end up just going back to my graphics tablet. My regular display is a big honking 27" Asus Proart, having both on is just.... a lot of display on one table. I end up just wanting to use my Huion Dial 2 to draw on the ProArt screen, I like being able to lean back in my chair while I draw and the Dial 2 is an absolute joy to use. Its honestly my favorite tablet I've ever owned, screen or otherwise.
Perfect timing. My Wacom Bamboo just kicked the bucket. Well, it is a driver issue actually. No longer compatible with Windows. So I'm now in the market for a newer tablet and this is right in my price range.
I have two XP Pens, a 24inch display tablet and a non-screen one. I use the display tablet as a second monitor and rarely use it the last few years.. Its def more comfortable to just draw normally and not have to lean over (and I use a tourbox elite on the side). So now my more expensive tablet collects dust.
I do have an XP-Pen Pro and I used to be the biggest XP-Pen fanboy, but my weapon of choice is now Procreate on the iPad Pro with an iCarez matte protector, but my secret ingredient is the Pro-Draw Apple Pencil Grip that I learned about from BeeJay Del, also the Pro-Draw's artist glove quality is second to none and they made it fit better to accommodate four finger gestures!
I believe it was Adam Duff who said he used some kind of foam pen/pencil sleeve which gives added thickness to stylus. downside is you can't use the buttons, but if you don't then that helps with skinny styluses I use xp-pen pro 16 gen 2 cuz it fits my hobbyist budget
I use a Wacome One too. I had Intuos before, but always wanted one with a screen. My issue with the One is that it is too small for a comic artist. You can't really zoom out and see your entire panel to draw from the shoulder. So all your lines will be coming from the wrist. That's a style limiting choice, imo. I started using vector layers only (for outlines), but that means I have to go in manually and adjust anchor points. I think it's fine for coloring and doing detail work, but there is a reason artists choose larger screens. For the price however and for how it feels to draw with, this is an unbeatable option, imo. Also software is cheaper (because it is full version PC software) whereas getting the same software on a standalone tablet often requires a subscripton. I use CSP and am very happy with it all in all. But I do want a larger screen. I also really like the pen, as I'm used to drawing with pencils and this resembles one, whereas the Intuos pen is like a chonky brush. The only thing I dislike is the lack of felt tips for the One pen, as those are only available for Intuos+Cintique pens. My tablet's surface is full of microscratches, which imo shouldn't happen at all. It's not like I am applying much pressure. It doesn't influence the workflow or change lines, but it is annoying to see a display dulled down like that.
I've been using Huion HS610 since 2019 and then I bought an iPad 9 in 2022, but because I really like using a pen tablet rather than a screen, I use it for almost every part of my work and only use the iPad for coloring on my bed, because coloring is relaxing part so should be done in as relaxed a position as possible
I've been using a Huion 16 since 2021, which I got during their yearly back-to-school sale. Best digital art purchase I've made yet. Before that and when I left it in the classroom of a school I was going to, I used a Wacom Intuos 3 that a friend gave me.
was using regular tablet for 5 years, and oh boy, how happy i was when i first got my graphic monitor) much easier to draw on the monitor, but you also need a table with hight regulation and a good adjustable stand so you can work with monitor comfortably without consiquences for your neck.
6:40 - oh, I can tell alright, I see the top of the screen and the apple logo and the macos menu bar is there. Love the video, I'm sold on getting a Wacom Intuos Pro M. So much so I already got one quite a few years back!
I got a 16" huion with a screen and I use it mostly with the screen off as a regular tablet, sometimes I turn it on to do some more "sketchy" stuff :) but yeah basically the same as in the video but with only one tablet and it was cheaper than wacoms. Pen feels pro, I do miss the eraser on the other side, but I heard a lot of people at work never ever turn their pen around to erase stuff. Ipad though its great for on the go fun sketches and you can hold it up like a sketpad.
I may try to go back to my old INTUOS just because I got injured on my cervical and now drawing on my pen display tablet is painful after an hour... But first I will try to adapt a mount with one of these metal arms for these kinds of tablets and hopefully that way I'll be able to still use my pen display tablet while keeping an upright position more favorable to my bad neck
Me too Trent. After many screen tablets I just always go back to my Intuos Pro but I use a large. Working all day my neck and shoulder just can't keep up when I use a screen tab. The Intuos is battle tested and always comes through.
I had no idea this thing existed. Funny I just sold my Cintiq 24 Pro because I'm moving and it wouldn't fit in my new place. I use an Ipad Pro 12.9 now, but I will for sure consider buying this to use with my Macbook Pro. Thanks Trent!
If you're already rockin the ipad, youre probably already set. The only reason to use something like what I use is if you want that portability and a laptop OS
This is great, because I was looking at it, and debating whether to get it or not! So this video came in a clutch as the cool kids like to say, and now, you know what, I might get it and start using it! Great video, and I love how to down to earth it is and just keeping it real! My only gripe, I would have loved to see you go in further depth, but overall, thanks!
“I’m lifting your momma’s wig and drawing on the back of her head” THAT SHYT TOOK ME OUT 😂 I honestly wish I could use a set up like that but I tried it one time at a convention and I just did NOT have the coordination whatsoever to work like that. So I am by all means a display tablet kind of person and one day I want to get a big size display for my dream set up. Still very informative though so I appreciate this very much! Edit: Yo that wacom one looks like something up my alley when I eventually switch from my ipad cuz I’m looking for upgrades 👀
Your ipad is better by the way, and if you are using a mac, you can use your ipad, the same as the wacom one. Yet, if you want something to connect to a PC, and also use something like photoshop with it, then the wacom one is a great choice, and also the huion kamvas pro 13 2.5k is great as well, and I would argue it is better than the wacom one as well, for the same price.
@@AtomLabX Ok so where I want to debate you on is storage. Ipad storage is annoying as hell to deal with given I do not own an ipad pro or ipad air and I really do want to get away from dealing with that to be real with you, and by all means I’m still eying the huion too cuz I’m mad impressed with what they got
For a pen tablet, 300$ is not cheap at all. I would recommend the XP Pen deco pro 2nd gen, the Huion Inspiroy 2 L(H1061P) or the Xencelabs medium tablet. They're all below 300 $ and perform well.
i understand that its not cheap for everyone. But for a pro level tool, its pretty cheap compared to the 3500 dollar displays that all of my friends buy.
@@TrentKaniuga All of your friends... 3500 $ display(literally the price of a car). Seems like you guys are probably wealthy. 300 $ is not cheap for most people.
I don't know if its preferred cause its the only one I own. But when I started learning I shopped around and got an Yiynova MSP22u for like $700... or "one summer job." I've used the non-screened tablets before and and I just couldn't get used to it, even being a gamer. I also knew I wanted a screen with no parallax. I've played around with a few tablets with terrible parallax and it drove me crazy. Also have a big dome that makes looking down exhausting, but that's how I always drew at the school desk so it felt more natural...
the new xp magic drawing pad is good for the price, but its really lacks processing power so large files are going to be painful. i had a lot of lag doing slightly larger pieces at 300 dpi. that said, it can do most of the jobs you throw at it. the screen texture is nice. the pen is good, although other xp pens not being compatible is a huge bummer. it does anything you want a tablet to do. works well with clip studio, though a procreate clone would be ideal for the devices power. the price point IS the point here, youre saving 400 to 800 dollars by buying something not as professional. i personally bought it because i have a 4k xp tablet and it's incredible, but i need to draw more casually most of the time, so i jumped at this when it went on sale. not disappointed, needed a cheaper tablet than my ipad on the go, but im surprised theres not more here, especially considering the brand. good, effective sketchbook, but not good enough yet for professional use. are you going to beat a portable screen tablet for $400 to $500 bucks? no, and thats why youd get it.
I’ve said quite a bit about my preferred way of digital art but.. I will comment on something you mentioned about tools / costs I get a lot more use out of a cheap sketchbook than a nice one, just gotta find what works for u.
I had a cintiq 13, and an old intuos 5 pro (if you go for intuos dont go for pro, the touch is annoying, I disable forever, just makes more expensive and irritate you when drawing)... I used more my old intuos than my cintiq (only one cable, not a bunch of cables and batterie to plug on pc), was faster to put and the screen of the cintiq wasnt color range same as the screen, so I always had to look to the pc screen and turn off the cintiq visual for coloring (making no use of watching the cintiq screen)
I love the simplicity that you maintain in this video but yet show quality work using the simply tools. What are your thoughts on the Wacom Movink 13???
I have a Huion Kamvas 13, I'm pretty new to drawing tablets and haven't used it much. The only issue I have is the cable is bonkers but when it's set up it's pretty neato. I believe it can function both as a draw on the screen or as a pad like you showed. Ultimately, what it came down to was price, Wacom has the name brand premium and I got my Kamvas 13 on a great prime day deal.
Hey Trent, what was it like back in the early days of making art digitally? Things have changed so much I just the time I’ve been experimenting with digital, I can’t imagine the differences between then and now.
Interesting, it's similar to the set of tablets I have. I started with Intuos (a cheaper version) and moved on to Wacom One later. I still use Intuos with my laptop though as it's easier to carry around and I don't want to unplug and plug three cables every time I switch between my PC and laptop.
I don't know if it works the same way in mac but on windows you can set both your wacom one and drawing screen to duplicate and then the third monitor can work as usual. That way you can use your wacom one like a screen and screenless tablet at once. That's what I would do with my old screen tablet but it has a rechargeable pen and that has become a deal breaker 😅
Wish I could use these tablets but the experience has always felt disconnected/awkward to me for years. Finally felt right when I bought a huion cintiq. Tablets are so much cheaper though so I wish they worked for me 😅
Im trying to imagine the complete disconnect between the artist and their digital tools in 1996. Can you do a for fun video that shows us what things were like when you first got into digital? Edit: also, my favorite tablet has been my Cintiq 16. It has survived several moves and outlasted two of my PCs. Definitely recommended.
Got my first tablet around 2008, a wacom intuos 3. And still havent bought a new one. The displays in the buttons dont light or show anymore. But, hey its still rocking like in the first days!
Do you find that that get used to looking at the screen as you make the lines and then it is difficult to draw on something like paper or directly on a screen ? I can't seem to switch back and forth.
I had the same issue. After using the tablet for some time, trying to draw with pen and pencil was a bit weird due to my hand covering per of the paper! I started drawing more on an iPad and on sketchbook again at least 20-30 min every other day and that helped.
not at all. I jump around between my normal graphic tablet, my ipad, and regular paper and pencils all the time, never had any issue. The same way using a mouse does not make drawing on paper suddenly difficult
Always a pleasure to see you Trent! Looking for an affordable tablet/graphic tablet that doesn't require a computer to be used, anyone of you guys has any suggestions? Anyway I've been using a 50$ huion for 5 years now and I'm extremely happy with it, haven't tried any other brand though so I wouldn't know if there's something better out there.
i loved the intuo's it's very comfortable to use doesn't lag but for me it broke within a year. then had to get it send back to the factory for repairs which took almost 2 months and when i got it back it broke again within a week. so I'm glad to hear that's just a me problem and not an everyone problem because the tablet really is a joy to draw on. personally been using the huion hs610 for the past 4 years. it was my first and I think it'l be my last. it's not pretty but goddamn is it durable
Trent, do you use this style of tablet for your line work. I would love to be ablet to go from a screen to a tablet / monitor for the sake of my back and neck's future. is there any specific videos you have done of linework with the intuos? Thanks for all you do.
I have the Xencelabs. It's good. The focus of it is really on the accessories and it turns out that I mostly don't use those. The sensor technology is Ugee, same as XP Pen(in the device listings, it shows up as "HANVON UGEE" - these companies are making products that are substantially different, but they are owned by the same parent). I think the newer generation XP Pens are also good. As it is, I don't do that much digital drawing. I have a few different tablets and I just don't like digital as a data entry method, screen or no. I prefer the hybrid of starting in traditional, then editing that after.
i use nowadays a intuos pro large (2013) that i got from marketplace for 110 bucks. before i had a couple of huions mediums hs611 and the first model of the h610 pro, the one with batteries. I tried a pen display 20'' for a couple of years , but it was a ergonomic shitfest: bad neck/back posture , terrible keyboard placement, sliperry glass with NO friction... in the end i went back to screenless. I went from a 24'' dell ultrasharp to a 32'' LG 1440p 10bit display, but the size difference made line control tough, so i went back to 1080p 24'' just for the better ratio btween the screen size and the tablet size.In the end 2 24'' 1080p display was better and still seems to be the best choice, since displays went to 27'' 2k and 32'' for 4k, and im not self-scaming with imac prices.
I currently work using clip studio on my ipad, but am getting a computer next year and need a drawing tablet to go along with it. I never really considered the intuos pro because I've always worked on a screen tablet and am worried about the learning curve of the intuos. Is the learning curve too intense?
Hi! It really depends on your style. I would say doing lineart is the most complicated aspect, even more so if you use Procreate and got used to it's easy shape tool. But for drawing and d painting you can get used to it in a couple of days tops. Your back and neck will be thankful!!
Third? Also it's nice to relate to someone about the beauty of the disconnect of a standard tablet. My head is also big and likes to sit back rather than hunch up. 🎉
Ah. Validation. Posture is so important than any gimmick you put on a screen tablet. Marco Bucci has the same reasons. I hope those pen tablet company executives don't use this as a reason to jack up these models' prices! But then i've never had to replace mine for almost 10 years now. lol
I use a large intuos 4 with a 28 inch monitor. Can you get used to do final lineart with a medium with this size of a screen, or just smaller screens? I'm asking because I preferer the medium size for portability but am afraid I won't be able to control my lines and spend money in vain
Couldn't agree more with this. I have also tried it all, and now I have a similar setup where I am drawing with a very ergonomic setup, it makes drawing even more satisfying and not a workout.
This day and age there are much better choices than a Wacom one tablet at that size, resolution and price. I would buy a standard iPad over a Wacom one any day of the week. With third party software you can utilize the iPad as a regular tablet as well if you wish. It's better quality, cheaper and more versatile than the Wacom One. Even if you have to buy the apple pencil.
I have a Wacom Intuos Pro M, but it's started having some problems. I still don't know if it's really the tablet, or the laptop I used to work with (or both). The tablet hasn't been able to turn on for a while, and doesn't react when connecting to devices (although bluetooth still works) Been considering buying a S620 from GAOMON in the future, but wanted to ask here first if anyone has experience with it
wacom is trash because they don't have laminated displays in their cheapest tablets. That you can get that with the lowest end XP Pen and Huion makes them vastly better
@@TrentKaniuga Personally I like what wacom has done to start the industry but their current line of products are so ludicriously priced for the value they bring that I have a tough time recommending them to anyone. Apple destroyed their margins and now competitors offer better products in the same price classes
LUL ''cheap". almost nobody needs anything more than the most basic cheap chinese tablet. 1024 degrees of pressure is technically more than enough for basically everything because everyone most likely works with 8bit color depth so that means that youll never need more than 256 levels of pressure for things like opacity, flow, saturation etc. the only time that could be slight issues is if you use dynamic size brushes with min-max difference larger than 1024px, which basically nobody ever uses and would barely ever be noticeable even at double the difference. the only worthwhile upgrade from a basic tablet is pen tilt feature which most tablets already come with today. and thats if your workflow even benefits from tilt.
Huion HS610 is a cheaper clone of Wacom Intous Pro : A4 size, touch ring, 12 buttons, android tablets\phones (no driver needed) support, pen does not need charge or batteries, 8192 pressure sensitivity and 60 degrees rotation sensor on pen. Works on Mac, Windows, Linux. Price for it is shockingly low🙃
I'm still on my first one, a Huion Inspiroy. It's about $40, and only requires one cord.
Hey, same here, it's really good, that's my first tab
I've been using a huion too for 5 years now and I'm really happy with it
the great part is it just works in linux
Not just posture and arm benefits, but also tablets feel more responsive than graphic displays
Extra little tip. If the "paper like" surface of your Intuos gets too worn out or scratched, a tablet screen protector works well. I bought a smooth glass Galaxy tab protector for like 10$ to extend my intuos' lifespan. It also protects the nibs from wearing out so quickly as well :-)
It's awesome that I got to see this video today because I took down my XP pen 24 pro the other day and started using my intuos pro because I would catch myself leaning over a lot and my back starting to hurt while using the cintiq but now i'm able to sit upright while I work! Great video Trent!
Trent you’re a genius! I just got an Intuos and it feels so much better! Years ago as a teenager with her first paycheck I went out and got a Bamboo with the intention of learning how to draw. Armed with a knowledge of Photoshop but no drawing skills, it basically became a fancy mouse. Now that I’ve learned how to draw, I bought into the hype about screen tablets only to have neck pain from hunching over it. The driver on my Bamboo are too outdated, so I decided to try the Intuos. It’s so great! Thank you!
I still use a Bamboo Connect that I bought in my second year at university (if I remember correctly they're from Wacom) and then didn't use for several years. I would go back to drawing every few years and it always worked perfectly. This year I've come back to digital drawing seriously, I thought of buying a new one, even found some cheap ones but decided that I was just fooling around, waiting until having a proper professional assemble to start taking it seriously. So I took back my Bamboo and kept practicing. Now I feel fully confident in my skills and realized how little it maters to have a big ass screen tablet. I'm happy with mine and won't consider change it until it stops working. And probably still would buy a similar one instead of with screen.
Intous pro is still my favorite. Had the x pen pro because it was cheaper than cintiq but I realized I was still using it like a tablet and looking at my monitor rather than the tablet screen and I found it easier to draw and paint looking at the computer monitor. So I’m just sticking my with my old intous tablet and I have my iPad Pro for when I’m out and about.
im a graphic designer and digital retoucher and I've been using the xpen artist pro for the last couple of years and i love it. I changed My artista pro for the new 2nd gen 16 early this year and is an increíble upgrade.
I have an XP-PEN Deco Pro Medium for my everyday work as a graphic / product designer / photography editing. I got it baised on your review back in 2020 i think it is and love it! About 6 months a go I bought myself a Wacom Intuos Pro small so that i could work a bit more portably as the Deco Pro Meduim was taking up too much room when i was out and about. Like you say in the video, you can get used to whatever tools you use and I can feel a difference between the Deco Pro m and the Intuos Pro i can jump between the no problems. And I dont think i would say i prefer one over the other, they both fulfill the roles i have them for.
Keep on being Rad Trent, your content is always great!
Yes!!!! I bought mine (I have the large version) back in 2017, and it's still just as good!! I use it for everything from 2D to 3D! My prof has been telling me to get a screen tablet, but I love my intuos pro too much 😅 I don't feel like I need to upgrade at the moment, especially since it works so well.
I’m a computer science major and do drawing and 3d modeling as a hobby but I bought a Wacom cintiq 16 back in like 2018-2019 and it’s been amazing for me. I use it as a 3rd monitor when I’m not working on a model or drawing.
Funny enough, I'm the same as you as exactly, yet I do not own a Wacom cintiq, and debating on what tablet to get, and I was looking at the intous pro medium.
Went full circle on this. Use the tablet I started out with.
Invested in a "professional pen display after graduating. After about 2 years I strained my muscles around the shoulder blade severely.
Looking back I think I must have had the posture of a shrimp over that thing & if you're a tall guy, I do not recommend. Frankly, I'm stunned when I see coworkers who seem just fine.
A bonus tip is to get a keyboard shelf. It's dirt cheap & a really nice solution for keyboard & tablet getting in each others way.
Edit; Don't be a dummy like me. I didn't think I'd have to deal with these overuse injuries as I stay fit. They sneak up on you & hits harder than one might think.
Appreciate you Trent, Cheers!
I’ve had a Huion Kamvas Pro 16 for a few years now and it’s been great. I picked it up for $300 and it came with everything out of the box (glove, extra stylus tips, stand). I love the programmable quick keys it has. I also recently bought an XP Pen Artist 13 Pro. I haven’t used it as much but it’s been pretty good so far. If I’d recommend anything it would be the Tourbox
Neo Controller. It’s become by favorite piece of gear and it’s really increased how fast I can make stuff. It’s been great using it with Maya, Unity, Photoshop, and Storyboard Pro since I made custom profiles for each software. I want to pick up the new version that works with the iPad Pro.
When I had a lot of pain the most relieving posture was standard tablet in my lap and with controller for shortcuts. Remapped joycon is amazing for shortcuts untill it starts to drift 😅. I also have a cintiq hd 22 and a huion kamvas pro 13 and I must say I prefer the huion for the feel. Huion has Less parallax and I also have a felt tip pen which is really nice! I hope every enjoy their drawing and don’t forget to go analog every now and then and shot off all possible distractions. Take care ❤Thank you for a great video!!!
I think the biggest point you did make was the posture thing. I prefer looking at the screen of the tablet but dang is that looking down at the tablet a horrid deal for the posture.
When I was trying out screen tablets I ran into the same issue + neck pains. After about a week of working like that it got bad enough that I couldn't work. So I kinda went back to the screenless tablet. Until then I used to hold that belief that screen tablets might just be an upgrade since you don't have to worry about your hand eye coordination the moment you move slightly in one direction. But yeah trying out one cleared up that really quickly
I personally prefer screen tablet and had terrible neck pain with it. Nowadays I keep it almost vertical when I draw. it took a bit getting used to but I dont feel any pain anymore.
I think best combo would be both. Screen tablet for sketching and regular for paintnig
I have a Kamvas 22 hooked up to my pc setup that I don't even have plugged on half the time because I end up just going back to my graphics tablet. My regular display is a big honking 27" Asus Proart, having both on is just.... a lot of display on one table. I end up just wanting to use my Huion Dial 2 to draw on the ProArt screen, I like being able to lean back in my chair while I draw and the Dial 2 is an absolute joy to use. Its honestly my favorite tablet I've ever owned, screen or otherwise.
Perfect timing. My Wacom Bamboo just kicked the bucket. Well, it is a driver issue actually. No longer compatible with Windows. So I'm now in the market for a newer tablet and this is right in my price range.
I have two XP Pens, a 24inch display tablet and a non-screen one. I use the display tablet as a second monitor and rarely use it the last few years.. Its def more comfortable to just draw normally and not have to lean over (and I use a tourbox elite on the side). So now my more expensive tablet collects dust.
I too, have a melon noggin. Hats are a few and far between for me. I feel your pain!
I do have an XP-Pen Pro and I used to be the biggest XP-Pen fanboy, but my weapon of choice is now Procreate on the iPad Pro with an iCarez matte protector, but my secret ingredient is the Pro-Draw Apple Pencil Grip that I learned about from BeeJay Del, also the Pro-Draw's artist glove quality is second to none and they made it fit better to accommodate four finger gestures!
the movink is like a fancy version of that one
I believe it was Adam Duff who said he used some kind of foam pen/pencil sleeve which gives added thickness to stylus. downside is you can't use the buttons, but if you don't then that helps with skinny styluses
I use xp-pen pro 16 gen 2 cuz it fits my hobbyist budget
I use a Wacome One too. I had Intuos before, but always wanted one with a screen. My issue with the One is that it is too small for a comic artist. You can't really zoom out and see your entire panel to draw from the shoulder. So all your lines will be coming from the wrist. That's a style limiting choice, imo. I started using vector layers only (for outlines), but that means I have to go in manually and adjust anchor points.
I think it's fine for coloring and doing detail work, but there is a reason artists choose larger screens. For the price however and for how it feels to draw with, this is an unbeatable option, imo. Also software is cheaper (because it is full version PC software) whereas getting the same software on a standalone tablet often requires a subscripton. I use CSP and am very happy with it all in all. But I do want a larger screen.
I also really like the pen, as I'm used to drawing with pencils and this resembles one, whereas the Intuos pen is like a chonky brush. The only thing I dislike is the lack of felt tips for the One pen, as those are only available for Intuos+Cintique pens. My tablet's surface is full of microscratches, which imo shouldn't happen at all. It's not like I am applying much pressure. It doesn't influence the workflow or change lines, but it is annoying to see a display dulled down like that.
I've been using Huion HS610 since 2019 and then I bought an iPad 9 in 2022, but because I really like using a pen tablet rather than a screen, I use it for almost every part of my work and only use the iPad for coloring on my bed, because coloring is relaxing part so should be done in as relaxed a position as possible
I've been using a Huion 16 since 2021, which I got during their yearly back-to-school sale. Best digital art purchase I've made yet. Before that and when I left it in the classroom of a school I was going to, I used a Wacom Intuos 3 that a friend gave me.
was using regular tablet for 5 years, and oh boy, how happy i was when i first got my graphic monitor) much easier to draw on the monitor, but you also need a table with hight regulation and a good adjustable stand so you can work with monitor comfortably without consiquences for your neck.
6:40 - oh, I can tell alright, I see the top of the screen and the apple logo and the macos menu bar is there.
Love the video, I'm sold on getting a Wacom Intuos Pro M. So much so I already got one quite a few years back!
I got a 16" huion with a screen and I use it mostly with the screen off as a regular tablet, sometimes I turn it on to do some more "sketchy" stuff :) but yeah basically the same as in the video but with only one tablet and it was cheaper than wacoms. Pen feels pro, I do miss the eraser on the other side, but I heard a lot of people at work never ever turn their pen around to erase stuff.
Ipad though its great for on the go fun sketches and you can hold it up like a sketpad.
I may try to go back to my old INTUOS just because I got injured on my cervical and now drawing on my pen display tablet is painful after an hour... But first I will try to adapt a mount with one of these metal arms for these kinds of tablets and hopefully that way I'll be able to still use my pen display tablet while keeping an upright position more favorable to my bad neck
Me too Trent. After many screen tablets I just always go back to my Intuos Pro but I use a large. Working all day my neck and shoulder just can't keep up when I use a screen tab. The Intuos is battle tested and always comes through.
I had no idea this thing existed. Funny I just sold my Cintiq 24 Pro because I'm moving and it wouldn't fit in my new place. I use an Ipad Pro 12.9 now, but I will for sure consider buying this to use with my Macbook Pro. Thanks Trent!
If you're already rockin the ipad, youre probably already set. The only reason to use something like what I use is if you want that portability and a laptop OS
This is great, because I was looking at it, and debating whether to get it or not!
So this video came in a clutch as the cool kids like to say, and now, you know what, I might get it and start using it!
Great video, and I love how to down to earth it is and just keeping it real!
My only gripe, I would have loved to see you go in further depth, but overall, thanks!
“I’m lifting your momma’s wig and drawing on the back of her head” THAT SHYT TOOK ME OUT 😂
I honestly wish I could use a set up like that but I tried it one time at a convention and I just did NOT have the coordination whatsoever to work like that. So I am by all means a display tablet kind of person and one day I want to get a big size display for my dream set up. Still very informative though so I appreciate this very much!
Edit: Yo that wacom one looks like something up my alley when I eventually switch from my ipad cuz I’m looking for upgrades 👀
Your ipad is better by the way, and if you are using a mac, you can use your ipad, the same as the wacom one.
Yet, if you want something to connect to a PC, and also use something like photoshop with it, then the wacom one is a great choice, and also the huion kamvas pro 13 2.5k is great as well, and I would argue it is better than the wacom one as well, for the same price.
@@AtomLabX Ok so where I want to debate you on is storage. Ipad storage is annoying as hell to deal with given I do not own an ipad pro or ipad air and I really do want to get away from dealing with that to be real with you, and by all means I’m still eying the huion too cuz I’m mad impressed with what they got
Thank for the H-D reference. I can really ride with that. Actually wanna get another bike. I miss cruisin.
Thank you for sharing Trent. $300 to draw on a screen is amazing.
Haha! The Wacom One has been actually my travel table for over a year and I love it.
For a pen tablet, 300$ is not cheap at all.
I would recommend the XP Pen deco pro 2nd gen, the Huion Inspiroy 2 L(H1061P) or the Xencelabs medium tablet.
They're all below 300 $ and perform well.
Same
i understand that its not cheap for everyone. But for a pro level tool, its pretty cheap compared to the 3500 dollar displays that all of my friends buy.
@@TrentKaniuga All of your friends... 3500 $ display(literally the price of a car).
Seems like you guys are probably wealthy.
300 $ is not cheap for most people.
I had a lot of trouble with xp pen and huion tablets
@@VishalNamani Trouble like what? And why do you have trouble while others don't?
I don't know if its preferred cause its the only one I own. But when I started learning I shopped around and got an Yiynova MSP22u for like $700... or "one summer job."
I've used the non-screened tablets before and and I just couldn't get used to it, even being a gamer.
I also knew I wanted a screen with no parallax. I've played around with a few tablets with terrible parallax and it drove me crazy.
Also have a big dome that makes looking down exhausting, but that's how I always drew at the school desk so it felt more natural...
the new xp magic drawing pad is good for the price, but its really lacks processing power so large files are going to be painful. i had a lot of lag doing slightly larger pieces at 300 dpi.
that said, it can do most of the jobs you throw at it. the screen texture is nice. the pen is good, although other xp pens not being compatible is a huge bummer. it does anything you want a tablet to do. works well with clip studio, though a procreate clone would be ideal for the devices power.
the price point IS the point here, youre saving 400 to 800 dollars by buying something not as professional. i personally bought it because i have a 4k xp tablet and it's incredible, but i need to draw more casually most of the time, so i jumped at this when it went on sale. not disappointed, needed a cheaper tablet than my ipad on the go, but im surprised theres not more here, especially considering the brand. good, effective sketchbook, but not good enough yet for professional use.
are you going to beat a portable screen tablet for $400 to $500 bucks? no, and thats why youd get it.
I’ve said quite a bit about my preferred way of digital art but.. I will comment on something you mentioned about tools / costs
I get a lot more use out of a cheap sketchbook than a nice one, just gotta find what works for u.
Thanks for the video... I use my Wacom One ( 45£) every day on the past 8 months , I love it . However I will consider an upgrade
i understand you , i myself prefer my intuos 4 xl over my other 13.3 inches xp pen
I had a cintiq 13, and an old intuos 5 pro (if you go for intuos dont go for pro, the touch is annoying, I disable forever, just makes more expensive and irritate you when drawing)... I used more my old intuos than my cintiq (only one cable, not a bunch of cables and batterie to plug on pc), was faster to put and the screen of the cintiq wasnt color range same as the screen, so I always had to look to the pc screen and turn off the cintiq visual for coloring (making no use of watching the cintiq screen)
I think i'm going to design and 3d print a little pen sleeve for this pen so i can thicken it up and make it feel better to hold i think.
I love the simplicity that you maintain in this video but yet show quality work using the simply tools. What are your thoughts on the Wacom Movink 13???
Still can’t get used to seeing Trent as a middle aged man. That’s just crazy to me. Also try the iPad and a program called “Comic Draw”.
I have a Huion Kamvas 13, I'm pretty new to drawing tablets and haven't used it much. The only issue I have is the cable is bonkers but when it's set up it's pretty neato. I believe it can function both as a draw on the screen or as a pad like you showed. Ultimately, what it came down to was price, Wacom has the name brand premium and I got my Kamvas 13 on a great prime day deal.
Hey Trent, what was it like back in the early days of making art digitally? Things have changed so much I just the time I’ve been experimenting with digital, I can’t imagine the differences between then and now.
You nailed it, brother! I miss you man! You crushed this! I live and breath on the same tablet!
Thanks Joe!
I like to work in a vertical format, so I concocted some jank arm setup for my One.
Interesting, it's similar to the set of tablets I have. I started with Intuos (a cheaper version) and moved on to Wacom One later.
I still use Intuos with my laptop though as it's easier to carry around and I don't want to unplug and plug three cables every time I switch between my PC and laptop.
Intous pro is my favourite as well, tried using a Cintiq for years, but never liked it.
I don't know if it works the same way in mac but on windows you can set both your wacom one and drawing screen to duplicate and then the third monitor can work as usual. That way you can use your wacom one like a screen and screenless tablet at once. That's what I would do with my old screen tablet but it has a rechargeable pen and that has become a deal breaker 😅
bought huion kamvas 22 and oh man it's super big for my comfort but it does help to prevent my shoulder from hurting so i guess it's still worth it.
Wish I could use these tablets but the experience has always felt disconnected/awkward to me for years. Finally felt right when I bought a huion cintiq.
Tablets are so much cheaper though so I wish they worked for me 😅
1:55 I think ive seen online that they are considering doing a desktop version. Only for mac ofc.
Im trying to imagine the complete disconnect between the artist and their digital tools in 1996. Can you do a for fun video that shows us what things were like when you first got into digital?
Edit: also, my favorite tablet has been my Cintiq 16. It has survived several moves and outlasted two of my PCs. Definitely recommended.
Tablets for a large cranium? What kind of dosage are talking here?
Got my first tablet around 2008, a wacom intuos 3. And still havent bought a new one.
The displays in the buttons dont light or show anymore. But, hey its still rocking like in the first days!
Do you find that that get used to looking at the screen as you make the lines and then it is difficult to draw on something like paper or directly on a screen ? I can't seem to switch back and forth.
I had the same issue. After using the tablet for some time, trying to draw with pen and pencil was a bit weird due to my hand covering per of the paper! I started drawing more on an iPad and on sketchbook again at least 20-30 min every other day and that helped.
not at all. I jump around between my normal graphic tablet, my ipad, and regular paper and pencils all the time, never had any issue. The same way using a mouse does not make drawing on paper suddenly difficult
Thanks! Ty master!
Thanks to you! Much appreciated.
huion is amazing! i have also a wacom and there is no difference
I’ve got an iPad Pro 12.9 inch and the Wacom intous pro and prefer the Wacom.
Always a pleasure to see you Trent! Looking for an affordable tablet/graphic tablet that doesn't require a computer to be used, anyone of you guys has any suggestions? Anyway I've been using a 50$ huion for 5 years now and I'm extremely happy with it, haven't tried any other brand though so I wouldn't know if there's something better out there.
Drew before on huion, then tried apple pro and then back on huion couse its beter and more comfortable.
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i loved the intuo's it's very comfortable to use doesn't lag but for me it broke within a year. then had to get it send back to the factory for repairs which took almost 2 months and when i got it back it broke again within a week. so I'm glad to hear that's just a me problem and not an everyone problem because the tablet really is a joy to draw on. personally been using the huion hs610 for the past 4 years. it was my first and I think it'l be my last. it's not pretty but goddamn is it durable
Trent, do you use this style of tablet for your line work. I would love to be ablet to go from a screen to a tablet / monitor for the sake of my back and neck's future. is there any specific videos you have done of linework with the intuos? Thanks for all you do.
yip, Wacom Intuos Pro M is all I need. The only thing I would switch to is a Xence labs Medium tablet.
I havent heard of that one before. Will check it out.
I have the Xencelabs. It's good. The focus of it is really on the accessories and it turns out that I mostly don't use those. The sensor technology is Ugee, same as XP Pen(in the device listings, it shows up as "HANVON UGEE" - these companies are making products that are substantially different, but they are owned by the same parent). I think the newer generation XP Pens are also good.
As it is, I don't do that much digital drawing. I have a few different tablets and I just don't like digital as a data entry method, screen or no. I prefer the hybrid of starting in traditional, then editing that after.
i use nowadays a intuos pro large (2013) that i got from marketplace for 110 bucks. before i had a couple of huions mediums hs611 and the first model of the h610 pro, the one with batteries. I tried a pen display 20'' for a couple of years , but it was a ergonomic shitfest: bad neck/back posture , terrible keyboard placement, sliperry glass with NO friction... in the end i went back to screenless.
I went from a 24'' dell ultrasharp to a 32'' LG 1440p 10bit display, but the size difference made line control tough, so i went back to 1080p 24'' just for the better ratio btween the screen size and the tablet size.In the end 2 24'' 1080p display was better and still seems to be the best choice, since displays went to 27'' 2k and 32'' for 4k, and im not self-scaming with imac prices.
I got an XP Pen Artist 15.6 Pro
I like it. 😊
How does the difference in size between drawing tablet & PC screen feel?
this video comes at me just as my 8yo Intuos dies
I currently work using clip studio on my ipad, but am getting a computer next year and need a drawing tablet to go along with it. I never really considered the intuos pro because I've always worked on a screen tablet and am worried about the learning curve of the intuos. Is the learning curve too intense?
Hi! It really depends on your style. I would say doing lineart is the most complicated aspect, even more so if you use Procreate and got used to it's easy shape tool. But for drawing and d painting you can get used to it in a couple of days tops. Your back and neck will be thankful!!
Third? Also it's nice to relate to someone about the beauty of the disconnect of a standard tablet. My head is also big and likes to sit back rather than hunch up. 🎉
Ah. Validation.
Posture is so important than any gimmick you put on a screen tablet.
Marco Bucci has the same reasons.
I hope those pen tablet company executives don't use this as a reason to jack up these models' prices!
But then i've never had to replace mine for almost 10 years now. lol
iPad Pro & Procreate Dynamite combination ✅
I use a large intuos 4 with a 28 inch monitor. Can you get used to do final lineart with a medium with this size of a screen, or just smaller screens?
I'm asking because I preferer the medium size for portability but am afraid I won't be able to control my lines and spend money in vain
I am still on my Intuos 3 Medium :D
Intuos 4 medium still going strong for 12 years of pro work.
I stop using my cintiq 24 because my neck is broken
❤ u 😊 pls post more often. Ty ❤
Couldn't agree more with this. I have also tried it all, and now I have a similar setup where I am drawing with a very ergonomic setup, it makes drawing even more satisfying and not a workout.
Also, I use a 16 inch Huion with Medibang Pro in a similar way and it has only been absolutely fantastic, in my opinion. Happy drawing, y'all!
I have a tablet with a screen. I don't like it. Intuous pro is the way. :D
how deep is your table? thx
This day and age there are much better choices than a Wacom one tablet at that size, resolution and price. I would buy a standard iPad over a Wacom one any day of the week. With third party software you can utilize the iPad as a regular tablet as well if you wish. It's better quality, cheaper and more versatile than the Wacom One. Even if you have to buy the apple pencil.
An ipad apple pencil for under 300 dollars?! where are you shopping?!
art gramps back at it again with a solution for better posture while drawing lol
I have a Wacom Intuos Pro M, but it's started having some problems. I still don't know if it's really the tablet, or the laptop I used to work with (or both).
The tablet hasn't been able to turn on for a while, and doesn't react when connecting to devices (although bluetooth still works)
Been considering buying a S620 from GAOMON in the future, but wanted to ask here first if anyone has experience with it
Uh.... weird question. But what's the name of the song playing at the background.
What did you "draw" on the back of my mammas head with though? that is the real question.
Ergonomics
still using my ol' intuos 😂
maybe this will be good
Ty for your great work 💯 Master!
wacom is trash because they don't have laminated displays in their cheapest tablets.
That you can get that with the lowest end XP Pen and Huion makes them vastly better
Some folks don't like that laminated display though. So it's really your preference. XP pen makes some good stuff too!
@@TrentKaniuga Personally I like what wacom has done to start the industry but their current line of products are so ludicriously priced for the value they bring that I have a tough time recommending them to anyone. Apple destroyed their margins and now competitors offer better products in the same price classes
LUL ''cheap". almost nobody needs anything more than the most basic cheap chinese tablet.
1024 degrees of pressure is technically more than enough for basically everything because everyone most likely works with 8bit color depth so that means that youll never need more than 256 levels of pressure for things like opacity, flow, saturation etc. the only time that could be slight issues is if you use dynamic size brushes with min-max difference larger than 1024px, which basically nobody ever uses and would barely ever be noticeable even at double the difference.
the only worthwhile upgrade from a basic tablet is pen tilt feature which most tablets already come with today. and thats if your workflow even benefits from tilt.
PC tablet limited me, because my PC processor couldn't handle it.. Annoying lag not helps.
Ipad pro is the way.
Huion HS610 is a cheaper clone of Wacom Intous Pro : A4 size, touch ring, 12 buttons, android tablets\phones (no driver needed) support, pen does not need charge or batteries, 8192 pressure sensitivity and 60 degrees rotation sensor on pen. Works on Mac, Windows, Linux. Price for it is shockingly low🙃
But how many years will you get out of it?
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What, am I possibly first?
How awesome. I love Trent Kaniuga videos. Stoked to get here so early. :]
First! Hahahaha