Excellent review, xp-pen is really stepping up their game. interesting that Adam Duff did a review on the Artist Pro19 Gen 2. I have the 16 Pro Gen 2 and really like it.
Nice review! I've used my XP-Pen 22E Pro for years, and I love it. In fact, I tried going back to an Intuos drawing pad and can't do it. I also like that in this new generation of XP-Pen that the parallax is so good. This is the only complaint I have about my monitor. I have to re-calibrate it often. Otherwise, it is perfect.
seems like a good improvement over the past models =) Just one advice, if you can spend 1-200 more for the 4k version go for it! With screens so big the resolution has to be high if you want to make any kind of precise linework (like inking). I'm not a concept artist, I'm a comic book artist and in my experience with many different tablets I realized that resolution is the top priority for us! =)
I have the xppen 16 pro and I really like it. I think the colors are not very accurate but it seems like Xppen is upping their game and making their tablets better
Hey, on the note about touch screens. Windows tends to have a "feature" turned on by default that usually messes with people when using a touchscreen tablet. Windows pen and touch uses the pen as a 11th finger letting you operate with touch and pen at the same time. A better way to use it would be for touch not to register when the pen is touching the screen (meaning for zooming or other features you lift the pen slightly). Just wanted to throw it out there because a lot of people turn touch off instead of changing this function (that makes almost all touch enabled tablets much smoother to use).
Tyler, You mentioned the option of VESA mounting larger (and heavier) display tablets like this new XP Pen Pro 24 on an “arm”. Have you much experience with arm-mounted displays? My main question is “stability” of the tablet while drawing (with arm-mounted tablet), or while lightly leaning the forearm on the bezel of the tablet while drawing on the tablet. I guess the question is: have you found any arms that are stable (ie. don’t move around, wobble, or sag) for extended drawing sessions (even if a forearm lightly leans on the tablet)? I’d like to be able to swing the arm w/tablet out of the way (when not needed, or if I need to get out of the chair), and then when needed, swing it in front of me (just hanging over the edge of the desk), with a keyboard under it, slightly above my lap, on an under-desk, slide-out shelf (like in your desk/keyboard setup).
@@pdfpdf1984 it’s def better especially if you use this as a full secondary monitor. and even play games on it. To just paint or draw I don’t thinks it’s totally necessary
@@TylerEdlin84 Oh thanks for the reply, frankly, I am a hard-note taker as a teacher. And I am so sensitive between 60hz tablet and 120hz tablet like iPad Pro and iPad mini. I can tell the former from the latter very very well. I have 60hz screen tablet like Wacom Cintiq pro 24 and Huron kamvas pro 24. So don;t hesitate for telling the thing as you' ve experienced sir. I am really appreciative for your telling me. Could you say that when we use this 165hz tablet as a note-taking, we can experience the difference from 60hz screen tablet even a little more? Does 165hz screen tablet give us the difference even very a little from 60hz one? I use very big screen tablet for note taking, So I think if there is a little difference, it really turns me on. I hope your answer for these. Thx
Does 165Hz actually feel a lot different compared to 60Hz? I don't see high refresh rate so beneficial in 2D/3D work, but I might be wrong. In gaming it is useful.
I have sworn off Wacom because of expensive issues, but I have been using XP Pen for years tho. This looks like a good upgrade for my current tablet, ty for the review
Wacom is super expensive yes, but sadly still the only ones that offer high end specs in one package so they have no reason to lower the price. Their pro line is definitely aimed at top-class studios where true 10bit and certified top color accuracy are important. On top of that it also has multitouch and 120hz refresh 10ms response time. Stuff like that does come at a price and when there's no direct competition they can slap extra price too. If xppen made ONE display that was 4k, 10bit (8bit+FRC), 120-165hz, at least some color certification (like skintone, pantone or something) and instead made a second model a multitouch too, then they would be a more direct competition but the price would definitely be in the 2-3k range. For what they offer with both 4k and 165hz models, they're actually pricey too.
Nice video! How good is the pen tilt compensation? I have the 16 inch one and there is a lot of cursor offset when tilting. I also heard that the glass is thicker than in the 16 inch one.
@@TylerEdlin84 Thanks for the response. If you can make a Short showing the performance of the pen tilt compensation, I'm sure many would appreciate it. This issue is what keeps me undecided between this tablet and the huion kamvas pro 27.
@@jamesbullo I haven’t used that first model but spec wise this has decent upgrades. Unless your tablet is dead or malfunctions I’d keep it if you like it till it’s time to upgrade
Was your screen actually set to 165Hz? That doesn't look like anything above 60Hz tbh, can literally see dabs during longer strokes and the brush shape cursor is definitely visibly stuttering and lagging behind as well.
@@quanozoga8508 wacoms are always technically superior but I don’t recommend them 98% of the time. It’s the cost to me and most it’s not worth the minor differences
Based on people's complains and reviews, cintiq 24 pro has more haze(rainbow) in their anti glare coating but feels more paper-like. Both are 4k screens with good color accuracy. Cintiq is true 10bit where Artist 24 gen 2 4k is 8bit + FRC. Cintiq is heavier and has fan cooling while Artist is lighter and fanless. And iirc cintiq has a multitouch model as an option while artist does not. If you find a cintiq at similar price it all depends on what might bother you or what you find more important. For non professional use, xppen will always be a better choice especially if you wait for some discount.
I wouldn't go with a used pen display unless it's in pristine condition. Cintiq offers higher end specs but you might not want the noisy fan, and if you don't have the need for true 10bit color depth the XP Pen is a better choice (unless you are sensitive to FRC, but you could turn it off at the cost of losing fake 10bit capability). Also worth mentioning, the Cintiq has better pen tilt support if that's what you rely on. It's a hard decision but in the end, unless you have a need for specific feature, you'll be happy with either choice.
@@don-dori but do these differences really change anything in the drawing experience? is it really something that makes a difference? especially judging by the price gap
@TylerEdlin84 I had the previous 24-inch model and with the DSR in envidia panel I forced the resolution to 4K, this way I had more Canva size and smaller panels or interface.. ofc this is not the best way to do that kind of stuff Cuz the font get blurry.. but for painting works fine.. now a good ips monitor 24" at 4k native look crisp AF, is just gorgeous and once you try that you don't want to go back to 2k.. the problems with the cintiq 24 and 32 pro models was the rainbow effect in the glass.. something like when you create a filter layer with noise in overlay mode and set to 5-7% opacity.. super annoying imo i know the price will go higher if they make it 4k.. but still under the 2k it would be a great deal plus the 165hz ofc.. I really hope they release a 27 4k version or 24 with high refresh rate.. but for digital art mainly, the 4k beat the 165hz Cuz the image looks really amazing.. anyways it is just my opinion and nothing more.. sry for my ugly English and thanks for review Tyler, you're the man! edited: i just saw they have 2 versions, this one with 165hz qhd and another one 4k but no 165hz, if you can, try the 4k version and then let me know if you prefer the qhd version
This is PC's display, procreate don't have pc version yet.... PC have lots of good painting software imo, csp, krita, sai, corel painer, photoshop, etc so, uhh, I think your comment in the wrong place or something
I'm a big fan of procreate but... Most of the main PC digital art softwares offer better functions for digital painting 😅 Maybe procreate does like, pencils and pastels and some certain types of textured brushes a little better than CSP and Photoshop, but procreate is nothing near Corel Painter and Rebelle 7. Do you prefer Procreate for the minimal UI?
@@radattk3145 Not with their new Adobe-style subscription scheme, licensing paranoia, and privacy/security issues. I no longer recommend CSP at all. Which is a shame, they used to be a very good, pro-consumer company with an awesome product for it's time. Krita is free, open source, and customizable almost to a fault. It doesn't handhold you in some areas like CSP, but it doesn't spy on you and steal your work, either. It has surpassed CSP in some areas, and continues to grow.
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Excellent review, xp-pen is really stepping up their game. interesting that Adam Duff did a review on the Artist Pro19 Gen 2. I have the 16 Pro Gen 2 and really like it.
"Eat it WACOM" - Phrase of the year 😂
Nice review! I've used my XP-Pen 22E Pro for years, and I love it. In fact, I tried going back to an Intuos drawing pad and can't do it. I also like that in this new generation of XP-Pen that the parallax is so good. This is the only complaint I have about my monitor. I have to re-calibrate it often. Otherwise, it is perfect.
Awesome review! I'd love to see a comparison between this and the Huion Kamvas Pro 24
seems like a good improvement over the past models =) Just one advice, if you can spend 1-200 more for the 4k version go for it! With screens so big the resolution has to be high if you want to make any kind of precise linework (like inking). I'm not a concept artist, I'm a comic book artist and in my experience with many different tablets I realized that resolution is the top priority for us! =)
@@IMKatar I believe you. Not having used a 4k display myself I just have to increase the file resolution if I want those crisp lines.
165 hz sounds amazing and the color looks great!!
I just realized your gaming library in the background is insane
@@Davidv91 yeah I may have a problem. More of it can be seen in the previous room update video
I have the xppen 16 pro and I really like it. I think the colors are not very accurate but it seems like Xppen is upping their game and making their tablets better
Hey, on the note about touch screens. Windows tends to have a "feature" turned on by default that usually messes with people when using a touchscreen tablet. Windows pen and touch uses the pen as a 11th finger letting you operate with touch and pen at the same time. A better way to use it would be for touch not to register when the pen is touching the screen (meaning for zooming or other features you lift the pen slightly). Just wanted to throw it out there because a lot of people turn touch off instead of changing this function (that makes almost all touch enabled tablets much smoother to use).
Tyler, You mentioned the option of VESA mounting larger (and heavier) display tablets like this new XP Pen Pro 24 on an “arm”. Have you much experience with arm-mounted displays? My main question is “stability” of the tablet while drawing (with arm-mounted tablet), or while lightly leaning the forearm on the bezel of the tablet while drawing on the tablet. I guess the question is: have you found any arms that are stable (ie. don’t move around, wobble, or sag) for extended drawing sessions (even if a forearm lightly leans on the tablet)? I’d like to be able to swing the arm w/tablet out of the way (when not needed, or if I need to get out of the chair), and then when needed, swing it in front of me (just hanging over the edge of the desk), with a keyboard under it, slightly above my lap, on an under-desk, slide-out shelf (like in your desk/keyboard setup).
great review! Sir, could you feel what 165hz gave you as a high resolution tablet? Is it valuable to buy this 165hz tablet instead of 60hz tablet?
@@pdfpdf1984 it’s def better especially if you use this as a full secondary monitor. and even play games on it. To just paint or draw I don’t thinks it’s totally necessary
@@TylerEdlin84 Oh thanks for the reply, frankly, I am a hard-note taker as a teacher. And I am so sensitive between 60hz tablet and 120hz tablet like iPad Pro and iPad mini. I can tell the former from the latter very very well. I have 60hz screen tablet like Wacom Cintiq pro 24 and Huron kamvas pro 24. So don;t hesitate for telling the thing as you' ve experienced sir. I am really appreciative for your telling me. Could you say that when we use this 165hz tablet as a note-taking, we can experience the difference from 60hz screen tablet even a little more? Does 165hz screen tablet give us the difference even very a little from 60hz one? I use very big screen tablet for note taking, So I think if there is a little difference, it really turns me on. I hope your answer for these. Thx
Does 165Hz actually feel a lot different compared to 60Hz? I don't see high refresh rate so beneficial in 2D/3D work, but I might be wrong. In gaming it is useful.
I have sworn off Wacom because of expensive issues, but I have been using XP Pen for years tho.
This looks like a good upgrade for my current tablet, ty for the review
Wacom is super expensive yes, but sadly still the only ones that offer high end specs in one package so they have no reason to lower the price. Their pro line is definitely aimed at top-class studios where true 10bit and certified top color accuracy are important. On top of that it also has multitouch and 120hz refresh 10ms response time.
Stuff like that does come at a price and when there's no direct competition they can slap extra price too.
If xppen made ONE display that was 4k, 10bit (8bit+FRC), 120-165hz, at least some color certification (like skintone, pantone or something) and instead made a second model a multitouch too, then they would be a more direct competition but the price would definitely be in the 2-3k range.
For what they offer with both 4k and 165hz models, they're actually pricey too.
I can’t seem to get your discount code to work at checkout. Could you please check if you’ve written it down correctly? Great review by the way!
@@hannahdeards9652 ok will look into that today when I get home
Nice video! How good is the pen tilt compensation? I have the 16 inch one and there is a lot of cursor offset when tilting. I also heard that the glass is thicker than in the 16 inch one.
@@caebo it’s def better but not as accurate as say Wacom l. The surface itself really is fantastic
@@TylerEdlin84 Thanks for the response. If you can make a Short showing the performance of the pen tilt compensation, I'm sure many would appreciate it. This issue is what keeps me undecided between this tablet and the huion kamvas pro 27.
I'm still using the Artist Pro 24 with the shortcuts and dials. Curious to hear your thoughts on this Gen2.
@@jamesbullo I haven’t used that first model but spec wise this has decent upgrades. Unless your tablet is dead or malfunctions I’d keep it if you like it till it’s time to upgrade
Damn i never seen that game collection!
Was your screen actually set to 165Hz? That doesn't look like anything above 60Hz tbh, can literally see dabs during longer strokes and the brush shape cursor is definitely visibly stuttering and lagging behind as well.
Is USB type C enough to power it alone when connected to laptop?
Hi
What is the refresh rate of the XP pen artist 24 gen 2 4k screen, 60 hz or 165 hz?
@@nassirabdu84 not sure. I think it’s 60
Would you recommend a Cintiq 24 pro or a xp pen gen 2 4K?
@@quanozoga8508 wacoms are always technically superior but I don’t recommend them 98% of the time. It’s the cost to me and most it’s not worth the minor differences
Based on people's complains and reviews, cintiq 24 pro has more haze(rainbow) in their anti glare coating but feels more paper-like. Both are 4k screens with good color accuracy. Cintiq is true 10bit where Artist 24 gen 2 4k is 8bit + FRC. Cintiq is heavier and has fan cooling while Artist is lighter and fanless. And iirc cintiq has a multitouch model as an option while artist does not.
If you find a cintiq at similar price it all depends on what might bother you or what you find more important.
For non professional use, xppen will always be a better choice especially if you wait for some discount.
@@don-dori would you recommend a used Cintiq or the new xp pen?
I wouldn't go with a used pen display unless it's in pristine condition. Cintiq offers higher end specs but you might not want the noisy fan, and if you don't have the need for true 10bit color depth the XP Pen is a better choice (unless you are sensitive to FRC, but you could turn it off at the cost of losing fake 10bit capability). Also worth mentioning, the Cintiq has better pen tilt support if that's what you rely on.
It's a hard decision but in the end, unless you have a need for specific feature, you'll be happy with either choice.
@@don-dori but do these differences really change anything in the drawing experience? is it really something that makes a difference? especially judging by the price gap
I knew this was a newer version...
it can run fortnite?
@@dodgesegen certainly
dude this is just a screen that u hook up with a pc or laptop.
@@HUN44TER yeah it’s just a screen there is no computer here I was making a joke that anything can run Fortnite
only missing the 4k....
QHD is good enough + 165 Hz
@@c0sm1c-b0y would be nice but it would jack the price up and honestly never have used a 4k screen to draw on yet in my life.
@TylerEdlin84 I had the previous 24-inch model and with the DSR in envidia panel I forced the resolution to 4K, this way I had more Canva size and smaller panels or interface.. ofc this is not the best way to do that kind of stuff Cuz the font get blurry.. but for painting works fine..
now a good ips monitor 24" at 4k native look crisp AF, is just gorgeous and once you try that you don't want to go back to 2k..
the problems with the cintiq 24 and 32 pro models was the rainbow effect in the glass.. something like when you create a filter layer with noise in overlay mode and set to 5-7% opacity.. super annoying imo
i know the price will go higher if they make it 4k.. but still under the 2k it would be a great deal plus the 165hz ofc.. I really hope they release a 27 4k version or 24 with high refresh rate.. but for digital art mainly, the 4k beat the 165hz Cuz the image looks really amazing..
anyways it is just my opinion and nothing more.. sry for my ugly English and thanks for review Tyler, you're the man!
edited:
i just saw they have 2 versions, this one with 165hz qhd and another one 4k but no 165hz, if you can, try the 4k version and then let me know if you prefer the qhd version
@@c0sm1c-b0y I've used both the Cintiq 27qhd and 24 pro (4k) for work and can honestly say that there is a big difference.
165hz??? Damn
@@syedshakaibanwar2698 yeah they really wanted me to stress that new feature
shame there’s still no good painting software other than procreate.
CSP
This is PC's display, procreate don't have pc version yet....
PC have lots of good painting software imo, csp, krita, sai, corel painer, photoshop, etc
so, uhh, I think your comment in the wrong place or something
I'm a big fan of procreate but... Most of the main PC digital art softwares offer better functions for digital painting 😅 Maybe procreate does like, pencils and pastels and some certain types of textured brushes a little better than CSP and Photoshop, but procreate is nothing near Corel Painter and Rebelle 7. Do you prefer Procreate for the minimal UI?
@@radattk3145 Not with their new Adobe-style subscription scheme, licensing paranoia, and privacy/security issues.
I no longer recommend CSP at all. Which is a shame, they used to be a very good, pro-consumer company with an awesome product for it's time.
Krita is free, open source, and customizable almost to a fault. It doesn't handhold you in some areas like CSP, but it doesn't spy on you and steal your work, either. It has surpassed CSP in some areas, and continues to grow.
Procreate is a toy.