13 Ways to Spot Fakes: www.silvercoins.com/fake-silve... Simple ping test to detect fake silver coins and bars. Pay special attention to the pitch/tone and the length of the sound.
The ping test only works when comparing the same coin. I have many different 1 ounce silver coins from different country mints and they sound different. Example the american eagle sounds different than the canadian maple.
Bro thank you... I was getting concerned that my coins sounded different. I bought from a reputable dealer in my area, but honestly that doesn't mean much nowadays.
That might explain why my known, guaranteed silver bullion coin sounds like the fake, and the coin I'm pretty darn sure is fake sounds real! Honestly, I've tried the ping test a few times and never found it as reliable even as the ice test.
Yes and size and thickness will change the ping as well. Most of my 90% silver has a higher pitch than most of my 999 rounds. Its only a sure thing if you already know what the coin is supposed to sound like.
Old cash registers - yeah, I worked with those - had a marble shelf. The purpose was to check the validity of coins. The merchant would tap the coin on the marble. It was easy to tell a real coin from a fake. I use a small marble slab and drop the coin. PING!
Too good, thanks a ton! But does the shape and thickness of pure silver emit different sound i.e. a pure silver coin of 10g v/s pure silver rectangular bar you have there? Or will it all still have the high pitch, melodious, longer lingering sound to it
i propose that we stop calling 90% silver 'junk' silver when it's not junk and it's real silver. i propose that we call the common quarters today 'junk' quarters. why don't we call things as they are?
I couldn't agree more. The only junk silver that is real is a Chinese coin with a Chinese sail boat that is called a junk. 1 Yuan - Sun Yat-sen 1933-1934, 88% silver. Some call it the Junk silver dollar. But for some mystical reason people are calling all silver coins junk silver.
@@nielsjensen1918, well, *i think* the reason 90% silver coins are called junk silver is *i think* due to their lower silver content than other silver. either that or because they are the best value for one's cash, so maybe dealers decided to call it a worse name. or maybe because the 90% coins are commonly dirty, since most are old & dirty circulated coins. several possibilities.
Seriously there's a couple reasons for the "junk silver" title. 1. It's called junk silver because it's not 99.9999 silver. It's mixed with other metals. 2. Collectors call it junk silver because it has no collector added value, it's only worth its melt value. Pretty much all silver coins with a collector value equal to or lower than melt value would be "junk silver" also. A "stacker" is not a "collector" a "stacker" is an "accumulator". Condition doesn't really matter to them as long as it still weighs what it's suppose to. You can be a collector and a stacker but they wouldn't mix the two together and treat them the same. I have my stack and I have my collection. My collection is archived and protected from damage, my stack I don't care about much except to make sure it's still all there. Of it tarnishes or gets banged up... meh. If that happens to my collection I'll lose my shit.
My mexican silver libertads have a higher sounding pitch than your real silver eagles, they do sustain the sound for about 1.5 seconds and it does melt ice very quickly, is it possible i have a fake?
Using an audio spectrum analyzer on your smart phone you can have reported to you the composition of the sound as the analyzer will display the frequencies in Hz (cycles per second). Each coin may have it's frequency cataloged. My Morgan & Peace dollars pretty much ring out with two frequencies composing their ringing sound 4350Hz and 10KHz. I have one Peace Dollar ringing out at 4308Hz and just under 10KHz, the edge of the coin is just a shade thicker and more squared than the others, they all stop a pendulum magnet.
Excellent suggestion. I had questions about a few generic rounds that didn't pass my own ear ping test but did pass the audio spectrum analyzer. Thanks!
sorry the audio for the ping is not the best, it's a high frequency of 6145 so the sound when pinging real silver lasts longer than it sounds. The audio just doesnt completely pick it up ...
SilverCoins.com I have to say, I could not hear any difference at all in the length of the ringing. It may be an artifact of the audio production (as you say). I did hear differences in pitch, but no pattern to that (because even the real ones had pitch differences).
Every bullion coin/round/bar will sound different depending how it was made and if it is truly 999 or 9999 also the size in which it was minted will make a difference. The ping test is no conclusive by far. Sorry.
I got the same noise as the ones you said were fake one my silver rounds. I actually cut one in half to find out it was all sliver. So that test is not accurate.
Absolutely correct - this test also doesn't really work, since if you hold a clad coin in the same way and strike it, it rings only slightly differently to a 90% silver - I'm quite sure that someone familiar with the sound would spot it as not being silver in a heartbeat though :) I've found that a more reliable test (at least with 90% half dollars) that doesn't do nearly as much damage to the coin is to have it spin on its side - 90% silver halves make a much more distinct sound when spinning that's a bit easier to recognise.
Our application "Precious Coin Tester" takes geometry into account. You need enter weight, diameter and fineness to do the test. Don't hesitate to have a try ;)
Hi I saw your video and I like it very much, I have a question for you, I noticed that the sound of gold coins looks the same as the sound of silver coins. Is it really like that or is it just my impression? Thank you.
Like using Sigma Metalytics Precious Metals Verifier but you need to be aware that older gold and silver coins like from pre-civil war aren't always accurate in it's content and may be out of the range area on the Sigma Metalystic Precious Metals Verifier.
Don't do this to coins, you will only damage them. And if you have a really rare, expensive coin, you're going to devalue that coin considerably. The first thing you should do is weigh the coin, and check to see if it's magnetic (use a neodymium magnet; silver has a very, very slight attraction otherwise it's practically non-magnetic). If you still suspect that the coin is a counterfeit, then check for die markers and see if they designs match up. There are references all over the 'net as well as in books to help you look for specific die markers.
They just silver plate copper and it reacts almost identical to silver... You need to weigh the coin, find the diameter, ping test, and magnet test if you wanna be sure anymore.
hi, for the fake coin next to the fake bar, does it contain silver at all? Although its sound doesn't last long, its sound frequency seems to tell it is made of silver.
not all eBay is automatically 'fake'. buy from a reputable dealer who has done this for a while and go over the feedback, and still be cautious. Now i am worried too, LOL.
Many viewers didn't understand it right. It's not enough that the coin rings some sound. It should be the exact right sound (in many cases lower pitch than a fake) and it should last noticeably longer than a fake. Of course any coin, including fakes, makes a ding sound, but not the right sound. If it pings, that doesn't mean that it passed the test. It has to ping the correct pitch and last long, like piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing. If your ears cannot hear the difference, then there is an app on the phone that tests the silver and gold bullion. And if you test silver bars, then you have to test a real one too, otherwise the test is useless.
The thickness is a big factor... generic silver rounds are thicker and won’t ring like that... I hope your not only relying on the ping test to determine if they are real.... you should always do a magnet slide test and acid test on any pieces in question
It depends on the geometry of the coin, a round is different than a Morgan, a silver bar is a completely different shape so it's going to be a completely different frequency. Some bars have raised markings which caused a different frequency, the Ping test is only good for Peace dollars and Morgan dollars in my estimation
Too late I just cut in half one of my silver rounds because it wasn't making the same tone as the eagle he was comparing it too. It was all silver when I cut it.
so someone in comments said that a copper coin sounds the same , to you it may , but not to me , i use this test quite frequently when buying silver in person, if its from lets say JM bullion then i dont bother cause they are a mega trusted company , but i did this to a 1898 o date minted morgan , and before you all get triggered at me for it , a , the coin is in very worn condition, b, because i dont plan to sell that one any time soon cause i got it for 20$ and its worth like 65$ currently, and c , because when i pinged it it was light , you dont have to strike it hard to get a noise.
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A bar is not going to make that sound because even if it's pure bullion it is a different configuration, also rounds are not going to make the same frequency. I tested all of my bars and they are all pure silver using a stigma analytics Silver and Gold Detector and they all sound different, frequency is not a 100% guaranteed authentic test
Yep. Main reason drum cymbals are round and not retangular or square. Also what they have different sizes and thicknesses, for different tones. This guy's just telling people to damage their coins. Which is fine if you are only concerned with melt value. Collectors are cringing watching this.
Pretty easy to distinguish 90% from post 64 coins just spinning them on a table and letting them fall, the 90% ones have a distinctively different tone. Of course you have to compare like denominations but a 90% quarter has a very different sound than a post 64 one, same with dimes, halfs and dollars. I am just getting into this game and very much enjoy these types of video's, I found the difference in sound by mistake.
I just got a bunch of silver Maple Leaf from a reputable dealer and they don't sound like your real coins, my ones actually don't chime that long like yours.........on the other hand i used 2 ping test app and after several attempt they said the coins are real.........not sure what would be the most trusted method to do this (i really don't want to scratch / bleach / acid them.
Who said this doesnt work? Maybe time for you to clean your ear, the fake coin dont have the same ping like silver. Its very noticeable if you are familiar with the sound.
Nick Giorgio every coin or round with a different geometry or minting method will sound different. Some will not ring long, others will have a slightly variable pitch. A neodymium magnet and a SG test are far more reliable.
Geometry of silver will produce different tones. Real maples are flat in tone, fakes have a higher tone. Its reversed for ASE. Beside the ping test, you'll need the magnet test, and probably a scale. Or spend 1K for a verifier. Good luck. A caliper would also help.
Can you do wothout talking too much between pings pleases so i can compare the fake bar and the real coin? Also does that second real coin have the same sound? Im sure its close but is it identical?
Good video! Thank you! It's a shame that the mic is not picking up all the sound. Real silver has a very deep, rich and creamy ( almost buttery ) chime to it. Fake coins will have a nasty ear piercing shrill. This test is pretty reliable if you train your ear.
Because the maples are a different geometry, the Ping test will sound different for every piece, if you really want to know if your silver is pure or not go to a reputable dealer that has a stigma analytics Silver and Gold Detector, usually the bigger dealers will have one. If you walk into a higher-end jewelry store I'm sure they will be happy to check your coins for you
I use the previous coin tester to do the ping tests, it works pretty well both for old coins and new ones. You can find more info on their website preciouscointester.com/
A simple Ice Cube is the best way to test if your silver is real, put a small chip of ice, or a piece of ice that's relative to the size of your coin, round, bar or whatever. If that ice melts very quickly then you have pure silver
Be careful with the ice test as a stand alone test because copper that's silver plated will melt ice just as quick. I agree that it's an acceptable test but it should be used in conjunction with other tests.
@@pwalms65I appreciate that, a simple ice Cube is still the best way for me to verify if silver is absolutely real, not the melting test but the ice stick test. If ice sticks to a piece of silver then you have a solid piece of silver
Yeah and water on your coins will leave spots on them if you don't use distilled water. So who knows what might be in your ice from chlorine to acidic to alkaline to other chemicals. Yeah ice test. As long as you are a stacker and you don't care about collector value, hell polish it with comet and a brillo pad for all I care.
You can ping the coin using a wooden pencil or plastic knife. This will save the coin from nicking or scratchs. Fisch makes a coin ringer and you can use an app called Coin Bullion to test the ring of most precious metal coins
The video is six years old so I hope you know this by now, but silver bars don't ping. Thats why you gotta know all the tests. There's the ping test, the magnet test and the ice test. And then of course chemical and electric tests. But yeah.. Your bar in tbe video was probably real haha
Junk silver is a term meaning two things to most people. 1. The silver is less than .9999 silver. Although I don't ever her people calling gold that's less than .9999 "junk gold" but people use that term for silver. It's silver that's less than pure and part of it is another metal. 2. Junk silver are coins that could be collected but because of condition don't have any collector value and sell for the melt value. Silver coins with no collector value above melt value would be "junk silver" this definition makes much more sense to me as both a stacker and a collector.
Remember, silver is the best conductor of heat of any metal on Earth, when the ice melts the coin should be ice cold. Be smart and stick to Middle denominations such as half dollars, Walking Liberty half dollars, silver quarters and Mercury dimes. The only reason we buy silver is for when the black market emerges, and it will. Garbage paper money will be gone soon, if you don't have a good amount of silver you will be fucked
Sorry but the "ping" test is not reliable. I bought some 1973 Greek Drachma that ring as sweet as any silver bell you can bring to bear. I purchased a dozen for less than $1.50 because I liked them. Lovely coin, but NOT silver.
Can you believe my grandfather bought my son a birth date liberty eagle 1oz silver coin and i went through a divorce and his mom died and my son recently died at 25 i had to go through his belongings because i was evicted and found the coin . I went through some hard times and wouldn’t cash it in for no amount, its not worth anything even real in perfect condition. Then i seen this and either my grandfather got ripped or my x sold the real and replaced it with a fake I don’t know which but the coin I have sounds like a damn rock when pinged Whats it worth 20 to 30 bucks in perfect non circulated condition? I mean it was his great grandfather for christ sake man what a world. Now my dead sons birthday coin his great grandfather gave him is a fraud piece of manure what a phucking world man geez. Id really like to know what happened did my grandfather buy a fake or did my x do something or wtf happened. I can’t believe this horse fertilizer . I looked at the mint mark it is JW i said wait a minute. Then weight and diameter were perfect but the edges were suspect and the ping sealed its fakeness.
Very useless test because every coin sounds different. The maple leaf for example sounds different from the ping of the american eagle. I already thought it was a fake coin and even damaged it a little bit.
"It doesn't really damage the coin that much". Hahaha haha Yeah it does. If your a stack who cares, if your a collector your screwing the value of your collection.
The ping test only works when comparing the same coin. I have many different 1 ounce silver coins from different country mints and they sound different. Example the american eagle sounds different than the canadian maple.
Bro thank you... I was getting concerned that my coins sounded different. I bought from a reputable dealer in my area, but honestly that doesn't mean much nowadays.
That might explain why my known, guaranteed silver bullion coin sounds like the fake, and the coin I'm pretty darn sure is fake sounds real! Honestly, I've tried the ping test a few times and never found it as reliable even as the ice test.
@@HangingWithEpstein Yup same, I bought some Morgan rounds from my LCS and was concerned because some other rounds I have sound different. 🤔
Yes and size and thickness will change the ping as well. Most of my 90% silver has a higher pitch than most of my 999 rounds. Its only a sure thing if you already know what the coin is supposed to sound like.
hmm.. that fake silver bar still rang...
Old cash registers - yeah, I worked with those - had a marble shelf. The purpose was to check the validity of coins. The merchant would tap the coin on the marble. It was easy to tell a real coin from a fake. I use a small marble slab and drop the coin. PING!
Too good, thanks a ton! But does the shape and thickness of pure silver emit different sound i.e. a pure silver coin of 10g v/s pure silver rectangular bar you have there? Or will it all still have the high pitch, melodious, longer lingering sound to it
i propose that we stop calling 90% silver 'junk' silver when it's not junk and it's real silver. i propose that we call the common quarters today 'junk' quarters. why don't we call things as they are?
I couldn't agree more. The only junk silver that is real is a Chinese coin with a Chinese sail boat that is called a junk.
1 Yuan - Sun Yat-sen 1933-1934, 88% silver. Some call it the Junk silver dollar. But for some mystical reason people are calling all silver coins junk silver.
@@nielsjensen1918, well, *i think* the reason 90% silver coins are called junk silver is *i think* due to their lower silver content than other silver. either that or because they are the best value for one's cash, so maybe dealers decided to call it a worse name. or maybe because the 90% coins are commonly dirty, since most are old & dirty circulated coins. several possibilities.
Seriously there's a couple reasons for the "junk silver" title.
1. It's called junk silver because it's not 99.9999 silver. It's mixed with other metals.
2. Collectors call it junk silver because it has no collector added value, it's only worth its melt value.
Pretty much all silver coins with a collector value equal to or lower than melt value would be "junk silver" also.
A "stacker" is not a "collector" a "stacker" is an "accumulator".
Condition doesn't really matter to them as long as it still weighs what it's suppose to. You can be a collector and a stacker but they wouldn't mix the two together and treat them the same. I have my stack and I have my collection. My collection is archived and protected from damage, my stack I don't care about much except to make sure it's still all there. Of it tarnishes or gets banged up... meh.
If that happens to my collection I'll lose my shit.
It's because junk silver is 3 syllables and constitutional silver is 7 and most people take the path of least resistance.
@@sparkyjones560 omg thank you. I was just about to say the same thing but you did it for me lol
My mexican silver libertads have a higher sounding pitch than your real silver eagles, they do sustain the sound for about 1.5 seconds and it does melt ice very quickly, is it possible i have a fake?
Using an audio spectrum analyzer on your smart phone you can have reported to you the composition of the sound as the analyzer will display the frequencies in Hz (cycles per second). Each coin may have it's frequency cataloged. My Morgan & Peace dollars pretty much ring out with two frequencies composing their ringing sound 4350Hz and 10KHz. I have one Peace Dollar ringing out at 4308Hz and just under 10KHz, the edge of the coin is just a shade thicker and more squared than the others, they all stop a pendulum magnet.
Excellent suggestion. I had questions about a few generic rounds that didn't pass my own ear ping test but did pass the audio spectrum analyzer. Thanks!
sorry the audio for the ping is not the best, it's a high frequency of 6145 so the sound when pinging real silver lasts longer than it sounds. The audio just doesnt completely pick it up ...
SilverCoins.com I have to say, I could not hear any difference at all in the length of the ringing. It may be an artifact of the audio production (as you say). I did hear differences in pitch, but no pattern to that (because even the real ones had pitch differences).
@@tjmmz9843Almost Impossible to spot by sound..
@sheparddog117 Just go along with the specific gravity test.
@@joejingojack u can tell the differece i try it the fake has a tud.as he explanins
Do you have additional testing on the first fake coin? Any magnet or density data?
Does this also work for silver ring ?
Every bullion coin/round/bar will sound different depending how it was made and if it is truly 999 or 9999 also the size in which it was minted will make a difference. The ping test is no conclusive by far. Sorry.
Please answer me,1799 silver dollar, access all tests it's silver,but it's weight is 30, 12 g, is that real or fake?
The only piece of silver I have that didn't ring is the .999 1 ounce I got from the bank. Weird.
I got the same noise as the ones you said were fake one my silver rounds. I actually cut one in half to find out it was all sliver. So that test is not accurate.
1:38 a sweet sound
1:59 sounds like my paycheck all day
perfect video for this explanation. thank you my friend!
You can also use a short 3/8 or 5/16th dowel and get very similar (almost these exact results) results with way less of a chance of damage to a coin!
The time doesn’t matter, the tone does... and even that can vary based on geometry. The ping test really isn’t very reliable.
Correct
I agree, I have American eagles that have slight variations and some that ring for days!
Absolutely correct - this test also doesn't really work, since if you hold a clad coin in the same way and strike it, it rings only slightly differently to a 90% silver - I'm quite sure that someone familiar with the sound would spot it as not being silver in a heartbeat though :)
I've found that a more reliable test (at least with 90% half dollars) that doesn't do nearly as much damage to the coin is to have it spin on its side - 90% silver halves make a much more distinct sound when spinning that's a bit easier to recognise.
@@hugostiglitz4215 Ping test is very reliable on two of the same coin.
Our application "Precious Coin Tester" takes geometry into account. You need enter weight, diameter and fineness to do the test. Don't hesitate to have a try ;)
Hi I saw your video and I like it very much, I have a question for you, I noticed that the sound of gold coins looks the same as the sound of silver coins. Is it really like that or is it just my impression?
Thank you.
Like using Sigma Metalytics Precious Metals Verifier but you need to be aware that older gold and silver coins like from pre-civil war aren't always accurate in it's content and may be out of the range area on the Sigma Metalystic Precious Metals Verifier.
Thanks brother, I appreciate the video.
So for those that don’t know if it’s real silver it sounds like a bell
Thanks for the info!
Don't do this to coins, you will only damage them. And if you have a really rare, expensive coin, you're going to devalue that coin considerably. The first thing you should do is weigh the coin, and check to see if it's magnetic (use a neodymium magnet; silver has a very, very slight attraction otherwise it's practically non-magnetic). If you still suspect that the coin is a counterfeit, then check for die markers and see if they designs match up. There are references all over the 'net as well as in books to help you look for specific die markers.
Kovacs Kovacs So dose copper.. if it’s silver plated copper it will do the same
a damaged silver coin is still a silver coin, a damaged fake coin will still be worthless after the test
It just bullion dude.
Better to use a pencil or hard plastic to produce the ring... nothing hard like another coin.
A damaged silver coin is still ounce ounce silver coin
For those hard of hearing like myself, look up the silver magnet test. I personally find it much more conclusive 👍🏻
Copper reacts almost same as silver to magnetic test. It seems that unless it's iron or steel, magnet test is Not reliable. 👎
They just silver plate copper and it reacts almost identical to silver... You need to weigh the coin, find the diameter, ping test, and magnet test if you wanna be sure anymore.
it can be faked with copper though
Does this work for 5 oz coins?
how much. the trade dollar 1876..
However, it also beats up a legit coin and lowers coin collecting value. Dropping onto a sheet of thick glass instead can produce similar affects.
Hi - mind telling us where you bought the fake one? Is it ebay again?
Martin M top hatter probably.
Chards
hi, for the fake coin next to the fake bar, does it contain silver at all? Although its sound doesn't last long, its sound frequency seems to tell it is made of silver.
has to be drilled to confirmed or melted
I have the same question
Thank God, mine passed the ping test, got them all off Ebay, was a little nervous.
Specific gravity
Also lookup xrf if you want non destructive but accurate tests
not all eBay is automatically 'fake'. buy from a reputable dealer who has done this for a while and go over the feedback, and still be cautious. Now i am worried too, LOL.
good job.
What I do is flip the coin, from the flick it will make the coin ping
Many viewers didn't understand it right. It's not enough that the coin rings some sound. It should be the exact right sound (in many cases lower pitch than a fake) and it should last noticeably longer than a fake. Of course any coin, including fakes, makes a ding sound, but not the right sound. If it pings, that doesn't mean that it passed the test. It has to ping the correct pitch and last long, like piiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiing. If your ears cannot hear the difference, then there is an app on the phone that tests the silver and gold bullion. And if you test silver bars, then you have to test a real one too, otherwise the test is useless.
Very goood my freind from Morocco
The real silver sounds great, like a chime, that fake one hurt my ears :/ Great tip, thanks.
How the hell do you keep the coin on your finger???
The thickness is a big factor... generic silver rounds are thicker and won’t ring like that... I hope your not only relying on the ping test to determine if they are real.... you should always do a magnet slide test and acid test on any pieces in question
It depends on the geometry of the coin, a round is different than a Morgan, a silver bar is a completely different shape so it's going to be a completely different frequency. Some bars have raised markings which caused a different frequency, the Ping test is only good for Peace dollars and Morgan dollars in my estimation
Too late I just cut in half one of my silver rounds because it wasn't making the same tone as the eagle he was comparing it too. It was all silver when I cut it.
Keep knocking it off my finger. Lol
Interesting! What does a silver plated copper round sound like?
Even better. This is why the ping test is not a conclusive test.
Sterling silver coins (UK ) also have a high pitch ring that last for a bit
so someone in comments said that a copper coin sounds the same , to you it may , but not to me , i use this test quite frequently when buying silver in person, if its from lets say JM bullion then i dont bother cause they are a mega trusted company , but i did this to a 1898 o date minted morgan , and before you all get triggered at me for it , a , the coin is in very worn condition, b, because i dont plan to sell that one any time soon cause i got it for 20$ and its worth like 65$ currently, and c , because when i pinged it it was light , you dont have to strike it hard to get a noise.
Thank you so much
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A bar is not going to make that sound because even if it's pure bullion it is a different configuration, also rounds are not going to make the same frequency. I tested all of my bars and they are all pure silver using a stigma analytics Silver and Gold Detector and they all sound different, frequency is not a 100% guaranteed authentic test
Yep. Main reason drum cymbals are round and not retangular or square. Also what they have different sizes and thicknesses, for different tones.
This guy's just telling people to damage their coins. Which is fine if you are only concerned with melt value.
Collectors are cringing watching this.
Thank you!
Pretty easy to distinguish 90% from post 64 coins just spinning them on a table and letting them fall, the 90% ones have a distinctively different tone. Of course you have to compare like denominations but a 90% quarter has a very different sound than a post 64 one, same with dimes, halfs and dollars. I am just getting into this game and very much enjoy these types of video's, I found the difference in sound by mistake.
Thanks, it helped I liked it
I just got a bunch of silver Maple Leaf from a reputable dealer and they don't sound like your real coins, my ones actually don't chime that long like yours.........on the other hand i used 2 ping test app and after several attempt they said the coins are real.........not sure what would be the most trusted method to do this (i really don't want to scratch / bleach / acid them.
Real maples do not have a high ping tone. You are probably ok
Kind of wish you would r compared the silver bar to a real bar 😐
silver bar sounded pretty good to me.
@@mustaffa1611 It sounded like a nice ping however he said it was a fake. 🤷♀️
Who said this doesnt work? Maybe time for you to clean your ear, the fake coin dont have the same ping like silver. Its very noticeable if you are familiar with the sound.
Chinese counterfeit terrifies Chinese too
Do silver eagles and 1 oz buffalo rounds sound different
Nick Giorgio every coin or round with a different geometry or minting method will sound different. Some will not ring long, others will have a slightly variable pitch. A neodymium magnet and a SG test are far more reliable.
Also the magnetic test is good, I have uploaded a video on my page about how to see if a coin is fake
I have a fake that passes magnet test.
Your 2nd fake coin rings nice at about 3800 hz. Lil low. Not easy to spot by ear.
Will a silver plated 1 oz bar or coin pass the ping test?
Geometry of silver will produce different tones. Real maples are flat in tone, fakes have a higher tone. Its reversed for ASE. Beside the ping test, you'll need the magnet test, and probably a scale.
Or spend 1K for a verifier. Good luck.
A caliper would also help.
Can you do wothout talking too much between pings pleases so i can compare the fake bar and the real coin? Also does that second real coin have the same sound? Im sure its close but is it identical?
Ok, so now I know how the ping test is done. I'll be sure to weigh my coins first, tyvm. Good video though, ty.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!
Good video! Thank you! It's a shame that the mic is not picking up all the sound. Real silver has a very deep, rich and creamy ( almost buttery ) chime to it. Fake coins will have a nasty ear piercing shrill. This test is pretty reliable if you train your ear.
Can I use a non silver coin to do a ping test?
I don't think it matters what the striking coin is made of.
I use ballpen, hard materials can damage your coin.
Buffalo coin sound different than American eagles as well though
Thanks!!
Can someone tell me how the fuck can u get a fake silver coin or bar in your hands if you buy them directly from mints. like apmex or us mint.
Not going to work for me. Thought the first fake silver sounded real and the real sounded fake. Gotta be a better method.
My Canadian maples do not make the sound. Why?
Because the maples are a different geometry, the Ping test will sound different for every piece, if you really want to know if your silver is pure or not go to a reputable dealer that has a stigma analytics Silver and Gold Detector, usually the bigger dealers will have one. If you walk into a higher-end jewelry store I'm sure they will be happy to check your coins for you
@@hugostiglitz4215 Mine does.
Silver Maple Leafs don’t ping like this. I thought all my Maple Leafs were fake until I did more research.
My maple pings like that.
@@pow9606 mine as well.
I use the previous coin tester to do the ping tests, it works pretty well both for old coins and new ones. You can find more info on their website preciouscointester.com/
A simple Ice Cube is the best way to test if your silver is real, put a small chip of ice, or a piece of ice that's relative to the size of your coin, round, bar or whatever. If that ice melts very quickly then you have pure silver
Be careful with the ice test as a stand alone test because copper that's silver plated will melt ice just as quick. I agree that it's an acceptable test but it should be used in conjunction with other tests.
@@pwalms65I appreciate that, a simple ice Cube is still the best way for me to verify if silver is absolutely real, not the melting test but the ice stick test. If ice sticks to a piece of silver then you have a solid piece of silver
@@pwalms65 you should also look at a stigma metaalytics machine, that is a 100% failsafe way to detect fakes and real silver and gold
@@pwalms65 I appreciate your comment
Yeah and water on your coins will leave spots on them if you don't use distilled water. So who knows what might be in your ice from chlorine to acidic to alkaline to other chemicals.
Yeah ice test. As long as you are a stacker and you don't care about collector value, hell polish it with comet and a brillo pad for all I care.
The bar made a ping
Thanks
You can ping the coin using a wooden pencil or plastic knife. This will save the coin from nicking or scratchs. Fisch makes a coin ringer and you can use an app called Coin Bullion to test the ring of most precious metal coins
The video is six years old so I hope you know this by now, but silver bars don't ping. Thats why you gotta know all the tests. There's the ping test, the magnet test and the ice test. And then of course chemical and electric tests. But yeah.. Your bar in tbe video was probably real haha
How much for silver coins ?
Yes I have
Thanks.
Silver its pretty and sounds nice
What is a junk silver pieces mean? Compared to real or fake
It means it is 90% silver and 10%copper or other metal...Still collectible in my opinion and theyre beautiful to look at
Junk silver is a term meaning two things to most people.
1. The silver is less than .9999 silver. Although I don't ever her people calling gold that's less than .9999 "junk gold" but people use that term for silver. It's silver that's less than pure and part of it is another metal.
2. Junk silver are coins that could be collected but because of condition don't have any collector value and sell for the melt value. Silver coins with no collector value above melt value would be "junk silver" this definition makes much more sense to me as both a stacker and a collector.
Wow I bought a a silver coin for 54 dollars and it's fake i got so scam
They all sound the same to me
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There is a app for that now
i wish you compared a real silver bar.
Listen to 1:20 then 1:50. Sounds like a silver stacker's doorbell.
@ 1:15 90% Morgan
@ 2:00 Fake
I can tell real and fake using my metal detector.
the real one was lower pitched
The Buffalo doesn't ping well at all.
NZ fern doesn't ring much at all, less than a buffalo. I have one, wondering if it's fake.
Remember, silver is the best conductor of heat of any metal on Earth, when the ice melts the coin should be ice cold. Be smart and stick to Middle denominations such as half dollars, Walking Liberty half dollars, silver quarters and Mercury dimes. The only reason we buy silver is for when the black market emerges, and it will. Garbage paper money will be gone soon, if you don't have a good amount of silver you will be fucked
Sorry but the "ping" test is not reliable. I bought some 1973 Greek Drachma that ring as sweet as any silver bell you can bring to bear. I purchased a dozen for less than $1.50 because I liked them. Lovely coin, but NOT silver.
1 drachma 1973 is brass (golden yellow). No way could you have mistaken it for being silver (white).
Ended up here by accident while trying to jam to some LCD Soundsystem.
Turns out I ended up learning something and I'm not disappointed.
I think ur top right one is real partner
Can you believe my grandfather bought my son a birth date liberty eagle 1oz silver coin and i went through a divorce and his mom died and my son recently died at 25 i had to go through his belongings because i was evicted and found the coin .
I went through some hard times and wouldn’t cash it in for no amount, its not worth anything even real in perfect condition.
Then i seen this and either my grandfather got ripped or my x sold the real and replaced it with a fake I don’t know which but the coin I have sounds like a damn rock when pinged
Whats it worth 20 to 30 bucks in perfect non circulated condition?
I mean it was his great grandfather for christ sake man what a world.
Now my dead sons birthday coin his great grandfather gave him is a fraud piece of manure what a phucking world man geez.
Id really like to know what happened did my grandfather buy a fake or did my x do something or wtf happened.
I can’t believe this horse fertilizer .
I looked at the mint mark it is JW i said wait a minute.
Then weight and diameter were perfect but the edges were suspect and the ping sealed its fakeness.
I have one pesos 1907 / fifty centavos 1903 Real silver
so.... by this test that silver bar is real..... even tho you can look at it and tell it is totally fake...... maybe get some acid...
Very useless test because every coin sounds different. The maple leaf for example sounds different from the ping of the american eagle. I already thought it was a fake coin and even damaged it a little bit.
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Won’t use it .
Oooh
"It doesn't really damage the coin that much". Hahaha haha
Yeah it does. If your a stack who cares, if your a collector your screwing the value of your collection.
Doesn't damage my maple and I done it hundreds of times. May damage those fake proofs tho.
I brought three 90% silver coins, It passed the ping test but when I got home, I test it with a magnet. The magnet picked right up.
Im using earphones and high volume, the real coins sound for 2 seconds , the fake ones last one second, the silver bar es real
haha thats cool!