Said it from day one Jade is the best character, his argument with Jim has pushed my respect for this character through the roof. If they killed him off I would be devastated😭
I think Boyd will eventually reach a breaking point. After constant criticism and pressure, he’ll finally say, 'If you think you can handle this without me, here’s your chance,' and walk away. The growing resentment from others, fueled by his cop stirring up the crowd, will push him over the edge. Tired of the relentless stress of leading without support, he’ll decide to let them experience life without him at the helm.
My theory, after watching Julie’s scene, is that the main characters we know are somehow apart of a paradox that has existed for generations. The only way to escape the town without returning is to stop it from existing in the past. We know that Julie was the one to give Boyd the rope to climb up the well, but what if things were to be changed? (ex. stopping Victors mom from going into the tree). Also, it would make sense that the screaming that Julie says she hears all the time is the screams of herself, randall, and marielle. Her experience in the future, which is unavoidable, is a result of herself looking into the past and altering events. It makes my brain hurt and I wonder if she is the only one with this ability.
Is this where I leave my conspiracy theory? I think whatever is growing in Fatima is the replacement for Smily, the monster that Boyd killed. I suspect their numbers never diminish. Also, why the hell did they ever abandon that story line? Sara still has worms.
I just gotta say, I LOVED the scene where Tabitha is the one to calm Victor down, almost like his own mother. Really starts to enforce the reincarnation idea and it was just nice to see. I also felt the very same when Henry was talking to Jim with the “I’ve been in your shoes” and “my father was also an alcoholic”. I just loved these parallels
Not sure if anybody picked this up...but there is a discrepancy in Victor's and Henry's story....way back in episode 2 Henry said Miranda got the visions and knew she had to save the children....but in Victor's story, Victor was the one who told her that she had to go thru the tree to save the children. But according to Victor, Miranda told him that the tree would bring her to the tower. These stories dont add up. Is it just Victor's memory being jumbled or is this a clue to something going on with Henry?
I think you're exactly right. The story does not add up. Either Victor's memories are wrong (we know there's still more he needs to remember about that night) OR somethings up with Henry. This was a great point to make and I think you definitely could be on to something!
Could it be that she knew she had to save the children, and then with the information victor found out about the tree, she finally knew how? And then when the bottles were on the tree she knew which tree it would be because she had already made an art installation like that?
@@waltzingmatilda9092 This is very possible. And this is why I love this community...we communicate....lol. I just noticed that their version of events didnt quite add up after Victor's revelation
@@Jason-ot6jv Jim is in denial and he is always leaving his kids, Tabitha too. But Ethan might as well be raising himself at this point. Jim is protective but doesn't protect his family
@@moniquem3738the only thing Jim is protective of is his fragile masculinity and whatever is left from his shattered ego when he realized he couldn’t swoop in and save the day so they could pretend their family is fine. I’m convinced they made him so insufferable so there would be at least one general consensus among the viewers 😂
This might be a stretch, but have you ever considered the connection between 'Ankh'-the ancient Egyptian symbol for life or eternal life-and the word 'Anghk-ooey'? The Ankh, often called the 'key of life,' is a cross with a loop at the top, symbolizing life, the afterlife, and the gods' power. Now, what if 'Anghk-ooey' carries a hidden meaning, like Hodor’s “Hold the Door” from Game of Thrones? Imagine blending ‘Ankh’ (life) with ‘kooey’ (a call that echoes back), suggesting 'Anghk-ooey' could mean an echo of life, like a spirit's lingering call. Just a thought! 🗝👻
@@URU123 🤯 this is why I love having so many perspectives try to solve this mystery with us! I don’t think I would’ve thought to look into the etymology of it. I’m going to keep that tool in my back pocket for future shows!
I haven't seen anyone discuss this previously (although I've only started watching breakdown videos for this show with the current season) but there's a drawing in the opening credits that depicts what looks like Ellis and Fatima as Adam & Eve. "The answers are at the beginning" - temptation, copulation, creation. I think Fatima's pregnancy is setting up the next cycle. I'm sure we're leading up to a massacre at the end of the season, as the end of the current cycle, along with the town turning away from Boyd. I think that From is a cyclical battle between good and evil (just like Lost). When characters have faith and act boldly, they are rewarded. Each side's ultimate goal is to ensure that their avatars persist in the next cycle. Victor was the continuation of good from the previous cycle, perhaps Ethan will be that person next time. But will Fatima's baby be the perpetrator of the massacre this time? And will the residents be able to prevent it being completed and stop the next cycle beginning? 🤷🏻♂️🫦😜
Would love to see a deep dive into Xander's theory at the 22:00 min mark about the whole story possibly coming from Ethan's book. I think you're really onto something here! Amazing video as always!
If we are sticking to the reincarnation theory then victor is the only one who can truly escape. Everyone's soul is tied to this place and caught in a never ending cycle. Victor has survived for decades alone in the forest and he is currently in between 2 cycles maybe hinting at this is his soul's first time there. Since his soul hasn't been caught in the loop yet he would be able to go home and stay there unlike Tabitha who was called back after saying she was done playing its game. Victor recalls the conversation between the boy in white and Christopher saying that the angkooey kids were betrayed by the ones they loved and trusted. I believe those people are the same souls being trapped in a cycle. I feel victor is different. He wasn't really a target all those years because he isn't one of the reincarnated souls. When he goes in the tunnels to look for jasper the monster comes out and threatens him saying if he keeps coming down there she'll make him stay. I don't think this monster was referring to him staying in the tunnels rather to keep his soul in the loop like the rest of them. But even if victor was the only one who could leave I don't think he will
@@christrarback9748 I mean…did they ever specifically say they tried to slowly back that ass up outta there to try to trick it? Feels like a silly childish loophole that would fit right in with the storybook idea lol
I saw the trailer for the next episode and victor is attempting to chop the bottle tree down....what if that's the tree they all come to in the beginning which traps them in the town, if they stop the tree from getting cut down it stops people being trapped there, some sort of time travel/displacement must be involved if its victor who cuts it down in the first place though, just a weird thought after he himself said it starts at the beginning
I have a strange theory that the kimono woman is a prison inside a talisman, that's why we only see her inside houses and not outside. I have a feeling that at some point the talisman would no longer work and they would no longer be protected at night.
So Julie didn’t disappear from where Ethan was right? Just fell unconscious and was having a Fit something, then appeared where she was in her dream shackled up then the important bit, the rope. What the writers did with the rope is super important to the show I think. Someone from now interacting with the past Hodor style….and just a random guess that Angkhoowii is a sentence like Hold the door is Hodor.
I thought the question on the visions had already been answered. the visions of Pastor Katrii being negative and talking down to Boyd is the negative spirits or the bad evil, and all of the good visions like the bartender cleaning the glass are from the boy in white.
I think the town has manipulated Victors memory to stop him from remembering specific things. I find it odd that he didn’t remember the boy in white telling Christopher what happened. I think even some of the monsters are probably people he lived with in the town and because he has significant trauma and suppressed memories he doesn’t remember them. It seems like with certain objects, like Jasper, and places ,like the basement, he was able to make the connection and reach the memory. I’m sure there’s a lot more that he isn’t aware he knows.
Now that we know for sure time acts weird in the show I feel like we have to revisit all the scenes with characters talking to people from the past. Specifically Abby and Boyd in the threshold. What if that really was Abby, "past Abby" and "future Boyd" both in the present talking to each other. Abby had a dream we haven't seen and was CERTAIN Boyd couldn't have made it so what if she had seen this "future Boyd" unknowingly leading her to make incorrect judgements since time travel and all the weird stuff from later seasons hadn't happened to her, thus giving her no real reason to assume it wasn't a random dream. Hard theory to put together but definitely an interesting idea they've introduced with Julie going back in time
Here is one issue for me, this is why fans complain about people not talking. We don't mean like a town meeting, we mean like when you have Jim, Jade and Victor's dad all in the same room and we don't discuss the bottle tree in the park that he was driving Tabitha to go see? That's what is frustrating. That was the perfect time for that discussion.
Jim sucks but Ellis is worse. Yes, I thought that the way they setup The Crominockle story that Ethan has reading in the RV is related to the story of Fromville.
Last post...no one called mom when Tabitha went into the caves with Victor. Also, whoever said the shirt, on that dead guy in the secret shack, matched Ellis' when Boyd was stuck in that chimney thing, it does not match.
I'm thinking something will happen to Elgin and Tilly's death will be blamed on him. I'm sill thinking (hoping) he's trying to help Fatima with what he's doing.
That's interesting about Jim being afraid to lose his family but everything hes done pretty much has resulted in him pushing them away I dont think he dies I think he starts to actually listen to Tabitha
I definitely agree about the Ethan story in episode 1 being the story of this show. On re-watch the first five episodes of season 1 give so many clues. You just have to take the dialogue very literally. I still wonder if something happened to Ethan when he had a seizure after the accident in episode 1
Disappointed Boyd was going to cover it up because it's basically how people in positions of authority behave in real life. Enforce the laws on people they don't care about and protect the people do care about from those same laws
I’m starting to believe the theory of Tabitha being Miranda, they both never watch their kids. Why the hell is Victor and Eloise wandering around playing hide and seek with no adult supervision? Smh Miranditha is her new name 😂
I think that the symbol the kids were looking at lying on the rocks was the tree that fell in the road that stops people from crossing because they need help, a lot of people have came to that tree in the road but failed or died trying.
Did anyone catch what song Marielle was humming right before that guy ran out of greenhouse yelling help? She was walking along humming.... I thought it was the theme song for show but now I think it could have been the nursery rhyme that the bus driver said her g'ma used to sing to them as children.... I tried to play it back but just could not make it out. thanks for any clarity with that part. cheers
I thought that too! I couldn't figure out a song but I did catch all the notes. The melody I caught was 3 bars in the the Key of F ( ' = quarter notes, " = eight notes): A' 'A' C' Bb" A" | G' G' A' rest | Bb' C' A' F'
Ok. I'm mad. So WHY is everyone in this town trying to handle things like they would in the real world. Everyone that matters knows that the town can mess with your mind, body, and cause you to see and do crazy stuff. You cant handle Tilly's killing like normal. CLEARLY Tillys killing is a result of the town messing with someone (Fatima). Kennys dad's death was a result of the town messing with Sarah. Like...stop having real world rules in a nightmare!!!!! And Acosta is heading this up. That chick needs to have a crazy experience so she can get off her real world high horse!!! I ride with Boyd all the way!!!!
What if the phrase "angkhoeey" represents all the sounds the children were hearing in the tunnels: the screams of Julie, Randall, and Marielle "ahh" and "Julie". "ahh" + "julie" together might sound like "angkhoeey" to a kid. In this episode, we hear the screams and then the scene cuts to Ethan saying Julie. You guys also mentioned Julie saying "mom?" and that scene where Tabitha turns back like she heard something. I just looked at a scene from S3 EP 6 where the three angkhoeey kids come to Tabitha in her house. You can hear them slip a "Julie" in when they're speaking. And Ethan scared comes and says "mom?". What if the "angkhooey" kids were trying to show Tabitha a reenactment of what happened?
I also thought the story Ethan told about the Cromenockle and The Lake of Tears had something to do with Fromville. Maybe the lake by the cabin has something to do with it.
Julie & the rope? When Boyd was down the well, Tabitha & Victor are in the tunnels - at the same time Julie was in the diner (wearing a different outfit)! I don't think this is time travel. I think she slept in the diner and was dreaming, and this is her remembering the dream, triggered by the ruins. But it still makes no sense. The producers said the whole answer to the show is in the first few episodes.
It makes me think Boyd’s wife was right about all this being a “dream” or a figment of the imagination hmm….I think the town is real but anything underneath/underground ie the monsters are not real ??? Hmmm Also btw i definitely don’t look at the spoilers, this is a show where it needs to be experienced as is or you’ll ruin the fun
@@4lawsofattraction-ov9zr YESSSSS it’s been bothering me so much cause time travel didn’t feel right. Time displacement felt closer but off still. The astral projection makes sense with the blatant theme of nightmares, focus on Elgin & Miranda’s dreams, and reality vs something magical or unnaturally conceptual being the driving force. I’d love to dive deeper into this concept, I’ve always thought it interesting but never took time to sit and read about it
Henry said he was standing where Jim was standing 40 years ago really had me thinking was he there before because he’s getting too comfortable, plus I think Maranda left with the kids because he was a drunk
I think so too. And to be honest, he only just saw his son after 40 years thinking he is dead, and instead of wanting to be with Victor, he is drinking at the bar
In the 1st episode when Julie and Nathan are talking in the that RV they mention Faeries. I believe these monsters and even the boy in white are the Fae
I don't think it's time travel in the dungeon. There was some lines from Emily Dickinson poems on a board in the diner. The last like was "forever is composed of nows". So it's more like everything that happens is folded into now. That's why Julie saw the 3 screaming, saw Martin, threw the rope to Boyd and heard Tabitha and Victor. All of the "nows" forever. There was also another line of poetry from Dickonson's poem "Hope is a Thing with Feathers". The line is "and sings the tune without the words". Hope is a word thrown around often in the show. And, we'll crows have feathers. And, no I didn't remember the full poem. I had to do a deep Google search because I remembered the the part about forever being nows. Took a bit, but finally found a photo of the sign un the diner.
@ElizRued it was season 1, an early episode but I don't remember which one. The sign itself is one of those kind that the user can change the signs with letters that stick onto the black background. The sign is to the right of the door that leads to the kitchen. There was some discussion of it because the framing of the shot gave a clear view of the sign. But that was early days so it didn't make sense at the time.
Inside that hidden room there’s a dead body, Fatima has a ghost baby, and Elgin prepared a blood bag… That’s a stretch, but what if that’s how the slow walking monsters are made?)
Just a theory Julie is telling the story she told to ethan. Norman is her baby brother that tabitha killed during a fit of postpartum depression. She is a steven king in that world.
What I don't get is that Henry talked about how she was supposed to save the children at the beginning. However, Chris was supposed to do it. Then Victor told him mom what he overheard. So something doesn't entirely add up with that.
I agree honestly. She wasn't able to save the children because it wasn't supposed to be her saving them, but rather Christopher? Why would she dream about them and see them before she even entered fromville?
So when Boyd looked down the hole where he was trapped he saw Ellis looking up saying it's getting dark you said you wanted to take the boat out. The shirt Ellis is wearing has patterns on that look almost identical to the dead body in the cellar.
Jade is my favourite 🤣 I also love Victor! I don’t think Fatima will end up in the box, I think she will either become one of the creatures OR she will die in childbirth and the child will be a creature!
Pretty sure Tilly is Julie. Either Julie is reincarnated as Tilly (or vice versa) Or, just old Tilly changed her name from Julie to Tilly to hide that she’s old Julie.
@@ITS_ALL_LlES how can reincarnation live in the same space and time? Reincarnation is when someone dies and comes back as that person in another form? What connects Tilly and Julie? Maybe Tilly was just there as a distraction because we all thought she was sus and then she died.
I think it is likely that the boy in white is who everybody sees when they see dead people or visions or whatever. .remember Elgin said on the bus he had the dream of the boy in white, then he is caught up in the kimono situation .. Its not a coincidence .. the boy in white is evil, and like Sara already said I don't think he is a little boy.
So has anyone noticed tht there are a couple of people who have not been fucked with in the village: Kenny, Kristi,the bus driver, and Donna. Tilly might have been messed with but that is off screen. Makes you wonder if the ones who have not been messed with in the town are apart of something.
Okay, so back to the nightmares/ fears idea and PLS HEAR ME OUT: each season focuses on the fears our nightmares of SOME of the people in town Ellis: Having to kill Fatima/ ending up like his father Boyd: a repeat of what happened to him/ loss of moral compass Julie: having to raise her brother again Tabitha: Returning to Fromville Kenny: losing his parents Victor: Trauma, suppressed memories (developing) Jim: Losing his family (undeveloped)
19:47 no offense, but no way I'm ever turning my back on this guy 😂 I mean kill someone for telling the truth and doing the right thing? It never even crossed my mind Boyd would even think of doing that.
Why does the Kimono woman needs Elgins Blood. Is it for the Kimono woman? Is it for Fatima to drink or transfuse, will it be for the baby to drink. Cant wait to see what happens in that cellar. I just hope Elgin is good and Kimono woman is good and that Fatima will be ok. I also hope the 'baby' is something that will help the town.
I'm for Jim. Poor man was just as ambitious as Jade and he got punished by almost losing his family. He is scared and is prioritizing the safety of his family. Yes Tabitha is grown and Jim's anger is misplaced but it is not unfounded. What I'm starting to see is we can't fully trust Victor's memories he is too traumatized
I understand, but Jim also doesn't seem to understand the gravity of the situation. Why is he trying so hard to keep his family in check, but he leaves his children to roam around the town which we know is also unsafe during the day. Ontop of that, he seems too comfortable not questioning the whole existence of fromville. His dead child literally called him and he tells Tabitha she is making things up. I think he is scared to go home in a way, their family is broken. But the more he tries to pull his family close, the more they resist
Could the tree they poured the hope into be the tree they see in the road? It was in the 1st episode, its bringing back the original town decendants, Abby line, Tabithas Line Randall and Marielle, also Donna.....could someone in the town be her sisters child? to help the children move on from the eternal pain that they feel. Maybe the boy in white needed Victors Dad to unlock something in Victor to help the people solve the cycle puzzle, awaken memories, and remind them how much power they have together to defeat the monsters, and the bad entity thats looming over fromville. Theres deffo a battle of good and evil going on we just dont know which is which.
Y’all are Jim haters. The writers have you in the palm of their hands. Honestly he hasn’t really done anything over-the-top to warrant the negativity. He is trapped with his family there & they were already falling apart before they arrived. He’s trying his best..he’s not perfect. Who is?
@ exactly. Jim is purposefully being portrayed so badly in very specific scenarios. It looks like most viewers are just going along with it and concluding he is a trashy person overall without there being a real basis for it. Idk why the writers decided to just tarnish his character..😞
@@muncherluncher They are probably about to kill Jim off. I'm not falling for the hate Jim trick. He messed up when he dealt with Randall, but even then he didn't want to hurt ppl.
After what Victor told in this episode about the sacrificed children . If the trees were created by the blood of the sacrificed children, if they go back to the original timeline to stop it and actually save the children like Tabitha's plot been showing us... That means that there would be no trees cause there would be no blood to create them, how would they go back home????? Dilemma comings Tabitha 👀👀
You’re right, so really when Victoria told her to get in the tree she ended up in the place where martin. Do you think the boy in white was one of children since they were also wearing white ?
Definitely not Time Travel. Julie was still physically with Ethan. Probably something closer to what guy says in the bar about Dimensional Rifts. *wrinkle in time style
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Said it from day one Jade is the best character, his argument with Jim has pushed my respect for this character through the roof. If they killed him off I would be devastated😭
Same here 🙏🙏
I think Boyd will eventually reach a breaking point. After constant criticism and pressure, he’ll finally say, 'If you think you can handle this without me, here’s your chance,' and walk away. The growing resentment from others, fueled by his cop stirring up the crowd, will push him over the edge. Tired of the relentless stress of leading without support, he’ll decide to let them experience life without him at the helm.
We'd all probably like Jim if he drank some booze lol
😂 😂 😂
@@ryanhooper4587 right?
Same could be said about Tabitha. The way people dislike Jim is how I feel about Tabitha. I wish Jim left her in that ambulance.
That part. He is probably a nice drunk. You are usually the opposite of your sober self. 😆
Julie's scenes were giving "Dark" and I am here for it!❤
Mannnn I need to watch that show
One of the greatest shows ever!
My theory, after watching Julie’s scene, is that the main characters we know are somehow apart of a paradox that has existed for generations. The only way to escape the town without returning is to stop it from existing in the past. We know that Julie was the one to give Boyd the rope to climb up the well, but what if things were to be changed? (ex. stopping Victors mom from going into the tree).
Also, it would make sense that the screaming that Julie says she hears all the time is the screams of herself, randall, and marielle. Her experience in the future, which is unavoidable, is a result of herself looking into the past and altering events. It makes my brain hurt and I wonder if she is the only one with this ability.
There seems to be time travel because Julie traveled back in time to throw the rope to save Boyd. Martin seems to be a vision and isn't real.
I think your pretty spot on! That's a great thoery.
Is this where I leave my conspiracy theory? I think whatever is growing in Fatima is the replacement for Smily, the monster that Boyd killed. I suspect their numbers never diminish.
Also, why the hell did they ever abandon that story line? Sara still has worms.
I just gotta say, I LOVED the scene where Tabitha is the one to calm Victor down, almost like his own mother. Really starts to enforce the reincarnation idea and it was just nice to see. I also felt the very same when Henry was talking to Jim with the “I’ve been in your shoes” and “my father was also an alcoholic”. I just loved these parallels
@@zcole6859 great observation 👍👍
I loved how Henry sat and just observed and listened to Jim and jade arguing casual as fuck he played that well the old boy
i went back to s2 ep 1 to fact check, tabby doesn't hear julie. she never once asks "did you hear that?"
I wonder how Julie is in 3 different places at the same time. In fromville, in the ruins and also chained to the wall.
@@ChozenOne8110 some wild time displacement going on
Quantum entanglement. There is a theory that every moment in time occurs at the same time.
It's her consciousness that is jumping through time. Also, time doesn't exist.
I immediately thought of Interstellar
@@cpmow831oh no it’s Dark Matter all over again. My brain is going to be soup if that’s the case 😂
I think Elgin is acting like Sara was in the first season
Not sure if anybody picked this up...but there is a discrepancy in Victor's and Henry's story....way back in episode 2 Henry said Miranda got the visions and knew she had to save the children....but in Victor's story, Victor was the one who told her that she had to go thru the tree to save the children. But according to Victor, Miranda told him that the tree would bring her to the tower. These stories dont add up. Is it just Victor's memory being jumbled or is this a clue to something going on with Henry?
I think you're exactly right. The story does not add up. Either Victor's memories are wrong (we know there's still more he needs to remember about that night) OR somethings up with Henry. This was a great point to make and I think you definitely could be on to something!
Could it be that she knew she had to save the children, and then with the information victor found out about the tree, she finally knew how? And then when the bottles were on the tree she knew which tree it would be because she had already made an art installation like that?
@@waltzingmatilda9092 This is very possible. And this is why I love this community...we communicate....lol. I just noticed that their version of events didnt quite add up after Victor's revelation
"Victor would draw a picture and you'd get caught" big Desperate Housewives Susan vibes here lmao
I think Elgin feeds the baby his blood so it doesn't hurt Fatima anymore. I still think Elgin is helping Fatima.
Agreed!
I Rewatched the tunnel scenes and there is no voice that calls out mom. But we're entering Desmond territory now 😂
Which episodes did u watch? I think I remember they did hear "mom" once when Tabitha and Victor were in a tunnel one time.. but I wanna check
I liked Jim in the beginning, but after the radio tower failed he just kinda gave up and became annoying lol
@@Jason-ot6jv Jim is in denial and he is always leaving his kids, Tabitha too. But Ethan might as well be raising himself at this point. Jim is protective but doesn't protect his family
@@moniquem3738the only thing Jim is protective of is his fragile masculinity and whatever is left from his shattered ego when he realized he couldn’t swoop in and save the day so they could pretend their family is fine. I’m convinced they made him so insufferable so there would be at least one general consensus among the viewers 😂
You know a series is soo good when ppl start releasing leaks.
Great episode even With the spoilers a lot of big reveals and just flat out surprises.
This might be a stretch, but have you ever considered the connection between 'Ankh'-the ancient Egyptian symbol for life or eternal life-and the word 'Anghk-ooey'? The Ankh, often called the 'key of life,' is a cross with a loop at the top, symbolizing life, the afterlife, and the gods' power.
Now, what if 'Anghk-ooey' carries a hidden meaning, like Hodor’s “Hold the Door” from Game of Thrones? Imagine blending ‘Ankh’ (life) with ‘kooey’ (a call that echoes back), suggesting 'Anghk-ooey' could mean an echo of life, like a spirit's lingering call. Just a thought! 🗝👻
@@URU123 🤯 this is why I love having so many perspectives try to solve this mystery with us! I don’t think I would’ve thought to look into the etymology of it. I’m going to keep that tool in my back pocket for future shows!
I haven't seen anyone discuss this previously (although I've only started watching breakdown videos for this show with the current season) but there's a drawing in the opening credits that depicts what looks like Ellis and Fatima as Adam & Eve. "The answers are at the beginning" - temptation, copulation, creation. I think Fatima's pregnancy is setting up the next cycle. I'm sure we're leading up to a massacre at the end of the season, as the end of the current cycle, along with the town turning away from Boyd. I think that From is a cyclical battle between good and evil (just like Lost). When characters have faith and act boldly, they are rewarded. Each side's ultimate goal is to ensure that their avatars persist in the next cycle. Victor was the continuation of good from the previous cycle, perhaps Ethan will be that person next time. But will Fatima's baby be the perpetrator of the massacre this time? And will the residents be able to prevent it being completed and stop the next cycle beginning? 🤷🏻♂️🫦😜
Would love to see a deep dive into Xander's theory at the 22:00 min mark about the whole story possibly coming from Ethan's book. I think you're really onto something here! Amazing video as always!
Elgin freed the kimono lady spirit when he open the door that's how she can appear to Fatima
For what it's worth, the "kimono lady" is played by a different actor than the actor who plays Fatima.
I was begging for Henry and Jade to talk about the bottle trees in the bar and in walks in Jim lmao...
If we are sticking to the reincarnation theory then victor is the only one who can truly escape.
Everyone's soul is tied to this place and caught in a never ending cycle. Victor has survived for decades alone in the forest and he is currently in between 2 cycles maybe hinting at this is his soul's first time there. Since his soul hasn't been caught in the loop yet he would be able to go home and stay there unlike Tabitha who was called back after saying she was done playing its game. Victor recalls the conversation between the boy in white and Christopher saying that the angkooey kids were betrayed by the ones they loved and trusted. I believe those people are the same souls being trapped in a cycle. I feel victor is different. He wasn't really a target all those years because he isn't one of the reincarnated souls. When he goes in the tunnels to look for jasper the monster comes out and threatens him saying if he keeps coming down there she'll make him stay. I don't think this monster was referring to him staying in the tunnels rather to keep his soul in the loop like the rest of them. But even if victor was the only one who could leave I don't think he will
Poor Jim, people are so mean about him. He is trying to protect his family. Obviously not very well but....
Elgin tries to help Fatima via a blood transfusion. Locks her in root cellar. Elgin gets killed and no one knows where Fatima is.
Maybe they have to drive backwards to get put of town 😂
😂 😂 😂 worth a shot!!
@@christrarback9748 I mean…did they ever specifically say they tried to slowly back that ass up outta there to try to trick it? Feels like a silly childish loophole that would fit right in with the storybook idea lol
Throughout the three seasons, whenever two people are discussing what's going on in town and how it can be resolved, Danna always interrupts.
@@joseffernandez1243 she always happens to come at a perfect time! SUSSSS
I saw the trailer for the next episode and victor is attempting to chop the bottle tree down....what if that's the tree they all come to in the beginning which traps them in the town, if they stop the tree from getting cut down it stops people being trapped there, some sort of time travel/displacement must be involved if its victor who cuts it down in the first place though, just a weird thought after he himself said it starts at the beginning
I have a strange theory that the kimono woman is a prison inside a talisman, that's why we only see her inside houses and not outside.
I have a feeling that at some point the talisman would no longer work and they would no longer be protected at night.
So Julie didn’t disappear from where Ethan was right? Just fell unconscious and was having a Fit something, then appeared where she was in her dream shackled up then the important bit, the rope. What the writers did with the rope is super important to the show I think. Someone from now interacting with the past Hodor style….and just a random guess that Angkhoowii is a sentence like Hold the door is Hodor.
I like that pitch of the blood being a transfusion but I also think it’s nutrients kind of like pre natal demon baby vitamins
I thought the question on the visions had already been answered. the visions of Pastor Katrii being negative and talking down to Boyd is the negative spirits or the bad evil, and all of the good visions like the bartender cleaning the glass are from the boy in white.
I think the town has manipulated Victors memory to stop him from remembering specific things. I find it odd that he didn’t remember the boy in white telling Christopher what happened. I think even some of the monsters are probably people he lived with in the town and because he has significant trauma and suppressed memories he doesn’t remember them. It seems like with certain objects, like Jasper, and places ,like the basement, he was able to make the connection and reach the memory. I’m sure there’s a lot more that he isn’t aware he knows.
Plot twist! Elgin is a freak … and he is ready to get funky
I met a girl on a dating app recently who "liked spoilers". Never have i ever met anyone like that before. Didnt even know they existed.
Makes no sense to me either
Now that we know for sure time acts weird in the show I feel like we have to revisit all the scenes with characters talking to people from the past. Specifically Abby and Boyd in the threshold. What if that really was Abby, "past Abby" and "future Boyd" both in the present talking to each other.
Abby had a dream we haven't seen and was CERTAIN Boyd couldn't have made it so what if she had seen this "future Boyd" unknowingly leading her to make incorrect judgements since time travel and all the weird stuff from later seasons hadn't happened to her, thus giving her no real reason to assume it wasn't a random dream.
Hard theory to put together but definitely an interesting idea they've introduced with Julie going back in time
Here is one issue for me, this is why fans complain about people not talking. We don't mean like a town meeting, we mean like when you have Jim, Jade and Victor's dad all in the same room and we don't discuss the bottle tree in the park that he was driving Tabitha to go see? That's what is frustrating. That was the perfect time for that discussion.
Jim sucks but Ellis is worse.
Yes, I thought that the way they setup The Crominockle story that Ethan has reading in the RV is related to the story of Fromville.
Last post...no one called mom when Tabitha went into the caves with Victor. Also, whoever said the shirt, on that dead guy in the secret shack, matched Ellis' when Boyd was stuck in that chimney thing, it does not match.
I'm thinking something will happen to Elgin and Tilly's death will be blamed on him. I'm sill thinking (hoping) he's trying to help Fatima with what he's doing.
I think he believes he's helping her for sure
@@sceneinvadersyeahhhhh it’s feeling very Sarah
That's interesting about Jim being afraid to lose his family but everything hes done pretty much has resulted in him pushing them away
I dont think he dies I think he starts to actually listen to Tabitha
I definitely agree about the Ethan story in episode 1 being the story of this show. On re-watch the first five episodes of season 1 give so many clues. You just have to take the dialogue very literally. I still wonder if something happened to Ethan when he had a seizure after the accident in episode 1
Disappointed Boyd was going to cover it up because it's basically how people in positions of authority behave in real life. Enforce the laws on people they don't care about and protect the people do care about from those same laws
I’m starting to believe the theory of Tabitha being Miranda, they both never watch their kids. Why the hell is Victor and Eloise wandering around playing hide and seek with no adult supervision? Smh Miranditha is her new name 😂
I think that the symbol the kids were looking at lying on the rocks was the tree that fell in the road that stops people from crossing because they need help, a lot of people have came to that tree in the road but failed or died trying.
Did anyone catch what song Marielle was humming right before that guy ran out of greenhouse yelling help? She was walking along humming.... I thought it was the theme song for show but now I think it could have been the nursery rhyme that the bus driver said her g'ma used to sing to them as children.... I tried to play it back but just could not make it out. thanks for any clarity with that part. cheers
I thought that too! I couldn't figure out a song but I did catch all the notes. The melody I caught was 3 bars in the the Key of F ( ' = quarter notes, " = eight notes): A' 'A' C' Bb" A" | G' G' A' rest | Bb' C' A' F'
Ok. I'm mad. So WHY is everyone in this town trying to handle things like they would in the real world. Everyone that matters knows that the town can mess with your mind, body, and cause you to see and do crazy stuff. You cant handle Tilly's killing like normal. CLEARLY Tillys killing is a result of the town messing with someone (Fatima). Kennys dad's death was a result of the town messing with Sarah. Like...stop having real world rules in a nightmare!!!!! And Acosta is heading this up. That chick needs to have a crazy experience so she can get off her real world high horse!!! I ride with Boyd all the way!!!!
What if the phrase "angkhoeey" represents all the sounds the children were hearing in the tunnels:
the screams of Julie, Randall, and Marielle "ahh" and "Julie". "ahh" + "julie" together might sound like "angkhoeey" to a kid.
In this episode, we hear the screams and then the scene cuts to Ethan saying Julie. You guys also mentioned Julie saying "mom?" and that scene where Tabitha turns back like she heard something. I just looked at a scene from S3 EP 6 where the three angkhoeey kids come to Tabitha in her house. You can hear them slip a "Julie" in when they're speaking. And Ethan scared comes and says "mom?". What if the "angkhooey" kids were trying to show Tabitha a reenactment of what happened?
So someone found a translation for Angkhoeey from a Native American dialect. Supposedly it means Remember.
I also thought the story Ethan told about the Cromenockle and The Lake of Tears had something to do with Fromville. Maybe the lake by the cabin has something to do with it.
Man let’s start seeing more ghost and monsters like the military man nd the spider
Julie & the rope? When Boyd was down the well, Tabitha & Victor are in the tunnels - at the same time Julie was in the diner (wearing a different outfit)! I don't think this is time travel. I think she slept in the diner and was dreaming, and this is her remembering the dream, triggered by the ruins. But it still makes no sense. The producers said the whole answer to the show is in the first few episodes.
Time travel seems like that of Interstellar movie.
Astral projection not time travel. Since we see all this happened in Julie’s mind
It makes me think Boyd’s wife was right about all this being a “dream” or a figment of the imagination hmm….I think the town is real but anything underneath/underground ie the monsters are not real ??? Hmmm
Also btw i definitely don’t look at the spoilers, this is a show where it needs to be experienced as is or you’ll ruin the fun
Thank you foer this critically important clarification. We were really falling down the wrong path there for a while.
@@4lawsofattraction-ov9zr YESSSSS it’s been bothering me so much cause time travel didn’t feel right. Time displacement felt closer but off still. The astral projection makes sense with the blatant theme of nightmares, focus on Elgin & Miranda’s dreams, and reality vs something magical or unnaturally conceptual being the driving force. I’d love to dive deeper into this concept, I’ve always thought it interesting but never took time to sit and read about it
Do you guys think when Martin said "Julie" and his facial expression softened, do you think that's a future or past version of Randall?
What if it's the priest? They look similar!
Henry said he was standing where Jim was standing 40 years ago really had me thinking was he there before because he’s getting too comfortable, plus I think Maranda left with the kids because he was a drunk
I think so too. And to be honest, he only just saw his son after 40 years thinking he is dead, and instead of wanting to be with Victor, he is drinking at the bar
In the 1st episode when Julie and Nathan are talking in the that RV they mention Faeries. I believe these monsters and even the boy in white are the Fae
i'd love it for them to send fatima into the box but they'd never find her body and then one night she just shows up at boyd's window as a monster
I don't think it's time travel in the dungeon. There was some lines from Emily Dickinson poems on a board in the diner. The last like was "forever is composed of nows". So it's more like everything that happens is folded into now. That's why Julie saw the 3 screaming, saw Martin, threw the rope to Boyd and heard Tabitha and Victor. All of the "nows" forever.
There was also another line of poetry from Dickonson's poem "Hope is a Thing with Feathers". The line is "and sings the tune without the words". Hope is a word thrown around often in the show. And, we'll crows have feathers.
And, no I didn't remember the full poem. I had to do a deep Google search because I remembered the the part about forever being nows. Took a bit, but finally found a photo of the sign un the diner.
Hi, Which episode did you see that? What area of the diner?
@ElizRued it was season 1, an early episode but I don't remember which one. The sign itself is one of those kind that the user can change the signs with letters that stick onto the black background. The sign is to the right of the door that leads to the kitchen. There was some discussion of it because the framing of the shot gave a clear view of the sign. But that was early days so it didn't make sense at the time.
@ElizRued made me curious so I scrolled through the epis. It is season 1 epi 3 at around the 12:30 mark
What if Fatima eventually ends up in the box but the monsters stay away from her because she is actually more evil than them 🤔
Fatima is having an angkouy kid and needs the blood to eat. Eljin is the new Chris
Who is Chris?
I think we will find out that what happens now in Fromville is what started the massacre during Victor's childhood
Isn't Elgin's blood for Fatima to eat?
Jim reminds me of Jerry from Rick and Morty.
Spot on 🎯
Inside that hidden room there’s a dead body, Fatima has a ghost baby, and Elgin prepared a blood bag… That’s a stretch, but what if that’s how the slow walking monsters are made?)
Feels awful tedious to do that for all of them but I could totally see this being how whatever is worse than those monsters are made
@@SceneInvadersJules Yeah... Totally, that's a lot of ghost babies needed)))
@@thearthematix which probably isn’t terrible if you can overlook the benevolent entities slurpin down your fluids like you’re a human capri sun haha
Just a theory Julie is telling the story she told to ethan. Norman is her baby brother that tabitha killed during a fit of postpartum depression. She is a steven king in that world.
What I don't get is that Henry talked about how she was supposed to save the children at the beginning. However, Chris was supposed to do it. Then Victor told him mom what he overheard. So something doesn't entirely add up with that.
I agree honestly. She wasn't able to save the children because it wasn't supposed to be her saving them, but rather Christopher? Why would she dream about them and see them before she even entered fromville?
@@svn2770 so do you think it was actually Christopher protecting them from Miranda then?
Did Julie travel through time, or did she just remember?
said that too!!! ITS TIME TRAVEL BUT ITZ NOT
So when Boyd looked down the hole where he was trapped he saw Ellis looking up saying it's getting dark you said you wanted to take the boat out. The shirt Ellis is wearing has patterns on that look almost identical to the dead body in the cellar.
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Jade is my favourite 🤣 I also love Victor!
I don’t think Fatima will end up in the box, I think she will either become one of the creatures OR she will die in childbirth and the child will be a creature!
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Martin looks like Henry
Pretty sure Tilly is Julie.
Either Julie is reincarnated as Tilly (or vice versa)
Or, just old Tilly changed her name from Julie to Tilly to hide that she’s old Julie.
@@ITS_ALL_LlES how can reincarnation live in the same space and time? Reincarnation is when someone dies and comes back as that person in another form?
What connects Tilly and Julie?
Maybe Tilly was just there as a distraction because we all thought she was sus and then she died.
I think it is likely that the boy in white is who everybody sees when they see dead people or visions or whatever. .remember Elgin said on the bus he had the dream of the boy in white, then he is caught up in the kimono situation .. Its not a coincidence .. the boy in white is evil, and like Sara already said I don't think he is a little boy.
So has anyone noticed tht there are a couple of people who have not been fucked with in the village: Kenny, Kristi,the bus driver, and Donna. Tilly might have been messed with but that is off screen. Makes you wonder if the ones who have not been messed with in the town are apart of something.
Kenny's parents were both killed, if that's not fucking with him I don't know what is.
I hope my theory from the Tabitha "dreams" or memories video makes it into the next video ;)
Okay, so back to the nightmares/ fears idea and PLS HEAR ME OUT: each season focuses on the fears our nightmares of SOME of the people in town
Ellis: Having to kill Fatima/ ending up like his father
Boyd: a repeat of what happened to him/ loss of moral compass
Julie: having to raise her brother again
Tabitha: Returning to Fromville
Kenny: losing his parents
Victor: Trauma, suppressed memories (developing)
Jim: Losing his family (undeveloped)
19:47 no offense, but no way I'm ever turning my back on this guy 😂
I mean kill someone for telling the truth and doing the right thing? It never even crossed my mind Boyd would even think of doing that.
Don’t worry, he’ll have to get through me first and that ain’t happening babe 😂😂😂
I really hope this show is renewed for season 4. Starting to have my doubts.
Why does the Kimono woman needs Elgins Blood. Is it for the Kimono woman? Is it for Fatima to drink or transfuse, will it be for the baby to drink. Cant wait to see what happens in that cellar. I just hope Elgin is good and Kimono woman is good and that Fatima will be ok. I also hope the 'baby' is something that will help the town.
I agree it goes with Ethan and his story
I just watched that episode where Tabitha and Victor are in the tunnels but didn’t see where she heard someone say mom, maybe a different episode?
Ahh dang!
@sceneinvaders a bit of a Mandela effect because I thought it happened too
@@ashleyrebecca3991 so true I really did I was convinced
So is Fatima birthing a new anghkooey child????🤯🤯
Either way she is most likely going to die giving birth, which is really sad
Also the totems in from look like the ones from the watchers: fairies
I'm for Jim. Poor man was just as ambitious as Jade and he got punished by almost losing his family. He is scared and is prioritizing the safety of his family. Yes Tabitha is grown and Jim's anger is misplaced but it is not unfounded. What I'm starting to see is we can't fully trust Victor's memories he is too traumatized
I understand, but Jim also doesn't seem to understand the gravity of the situation. Why is he trying so hard to keep his family in check, but he leaves his children to roam around the town which we know is also unsafe during the day. Ontop of that, he seems too comfortable not questioning the whole existence of fromville. His dead child literally called him and he tells Tabitha she is making things up. I think he is scared to go home in a way, their family is broken. But the more he tries to pull his family close, the more they resist
i think the time travel will be within the insidious films theory
Julie throwing the rope, is it a flashback or time-travel kind of experience?
Get those theories in!!! NO LEAKS PLEASE
I want Kenny and Acosta to get together and no more deaths
Could the tree they poured the hope into be the tree they see in the road? It was in the 1st episode, its bringing back the original town decendants, Abby line, Tabithas Line Randall and Marielle, also Donna.....could someone in the town be her sisters child? to help the children move on from the eternal pain that they feel. Maybe the boy in white needed Victors Dad to unlock something in Victor to help the people solve the cycle puzzle, awaken memories, and remind them how much power they have together to defeat the monsters, and the bad entity thats looming over fromville. Theres deffo a battle of good and evil going on we just dont know which is which.
Jim reminds me of Ant-Man
WOW how dare you compare Jim to Zaddy Rudd
The answers in the begining could be key parts of S1 and not only E1
Y’all are Jim haters. The writers have you in the palm of their hands. Honestly he hasn’t really done anything over-the-top to warrant the negativity. He is trapped with his family there & they were already falling apart before they arrived. He’s trying his best..he’s not perfect. Who is?
I soooo agree. I've been saying that Tabitha has been more annoying and LEAVING HER KIDS just like Jim....but everyone is all on Tabitha's side.
@ exactly. Jim is purposefully being portrayed so badly in very specific scenarios. It looks like most viewers are just going along with it and concluding he is a trashy person overall without there being a real basis for it. Idk why the writers decided to just tarnish his character..😞
@@muncherluncher They are probably about to kill Jim off. I'm not falling for the hate Jim trick. He messed up when he dealt with Randall, but even then he didn't want to hurt ppl.
I dislike Tabitha because after Jim rescues her from the ambulance, defends her in the meeting she turns on him and pushed his buttons in that fight.
Agreed, I don’t think Jim has done badly under the circumstances.
Have you guys seen "Teacup" on Peacock? I feel like y'all would like it.
I've been told to watch it, now I def will
After what Victor told in this episode about the sacrificed children .
If the trees were created by the blood of the sacrificed children, if they go back to the original timeline to stop it and actually save the children like Tabitha's plot been showing us... That means that there would be no trees cause there would be no blood to create them, how would they go back home????? Dilemma comings Tabitha 👀👀
Weren't the faraway trees created by the childrens hope?
@svn2770 I thought it's the same thing, blood or hope, they were created by their deaths
I don’t think Julie dropped the rope, I think it was Eloise
They literally showed Julie dropping the rope? And Eloise would've also had to have survived for 40 odd years too and avoid Victor during that time
You’re right, so really when Victoria told her to get in the tree she ended up in the place where martin. Do you think the boy in white was one of children since they were also wearing white ?
Definitely not Time Travel.
Julie was still physically with Ethan.
Probably something closer to what guy says in the bar about Dimensional Rifts. *wrinkle in time style
Yea i dont recall tabitha hear anyone say mom when she was in the tunnels
I think Jasper does matter 😂