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It's hard to tell, I like to believe that he started killing in revenge for the death of the crying child. But eventually he discovers Remnant and then begins to seek immortality to bring his child back
he's possessed by a Dark Remnant Entity, it creates pain, suffering, gloom, fear, and agony wherever it goes, as that's what it feeds on, it sustains it. this is why it kills. William Afton killed himself (as seen in FNaF World Update 2's ending) after Circus Baby killed his daughter, Elizabeth, allowing this Entity full control. it's why William is shown with white eyes of possession after her death, first in 1983 in FNaF 4, 1985 in FNaF 2's Save Them minigame, and lastly in 1995 in FNaF 3's Follow Me minigame.
What if the six monitors indicates the different ending of the base game, implying that, no matter how you ended your version Ruin is what happen after? No matter if gregory escape or not, if it burns or not, someome in the future will find the pizzaplex remains and start the story and its nightmares all over again.
Interesting connection. I feel like as for the two pairs of eyes, it can’t be Vanny or BURNTRAP because of how their eyes are. Vannys eyes would’ve been much bigger and not dots. BURNTRAPs would’ve been red. I think it’s more likely to be moon and an endo, mainly because of what’s described by steelwool
Gregory escape or not, if it burns or not, someome in the future will find the pizzeria remains and start the story and it's nightmare and it's nightmares all over again.
I actually think both sun and moon are going to be out to kill vanny cause it kinda looks like its their endoskeleton fingers that are reaching for her in one of the images plus I really want moon to secretly be a goodguy
I've thought the DLC will build off of Vanessa asking us (as Gregory) to go check the main stage. We end up dying to Moon if we stay at the stage for too long, so I think that would be a fitting way to build off of the DLC. Let alone we dont even know if Freddy is around, or even alive in the DLC teaser. He could be still around, we just don't know.
Also, Amelia is seen playing specifically Fruity Maze (apparently, i havent read the book yet lol).Which would mean nothing, but since Chica is in the poster, it almost makes me think maybe... I dunno, Suzie parallels? I dunno, I genuinely don't think it means anything. It's just a weird detail if Amelia ends up being our protagonist.
She's also called "a princess."(which if we connect to The Princess from PQ - is yellow,has yellow hair) and Susie had yellow hair... yeah,just minor details for now.
@@RyeToast don't forget that chica seems more important than we think Her plushies has a skull tag while the others has the fazbear entertainment logo Before the post-it notes room, there's what seems to be a small space dedicated for chica (literally after the chica chase)
A detail everyone seems to not notice is that there is a third pair of eyes under the ruin text upon brightening up the image. Don't know if it's ingdntional or just coincidental but it's there.
@@_Chxco_ Unfortunately, I think in canon, he's just gone. I don't really see how he would be around - he's out of commission, was last seen in Gator Golf, and it seems like Afton took some of his parts. I would think he'd be destroyed.
Hey RyeToast! i just wanted to say i love your videos so much! it makes fnaf so much more interactive if that makes sense. i love how the community always has theories and ideas. it forces critical thinking, and brainstorming, and in my opinion, i think it really draws more people in. Please keep up the good work and never stop making videos!!!
I love the part about forcing critical thinking!! I've never been quite sure how to describe how @RyeToast presents their content, but that hits the nail on the head perfectly! It's just a different means of communicating information than a lot of the other FNAF creators I've seen, and truly does make you think much more broadly & critically 😊
@@luceharrietf i agree! probably tmi, but a few years ago my little cousin was playing fnaf. at that point in time i had no idea about the game or the lore behind anything at all. i’ve seen the bear, and the chicken, and the bunny and the fox, but i just didn’t know the complexity of the game and the universe within it. i was a fool. anyways, we were talking about it a little and i mentioned how this game doesn’t even seem scary. it’s just a chuck e. cheese simulator or something lol. again, i was a fool. my little cousin then proceeded to say in the most calm, unbothered manner: “oh yeah those robot suits have the souls of dead children in them”… huh😀i was gagged, and indeed scared. i wasn’t expecting a what i thought to be some kids indie game, to be soooooo deep. (girl bye you have no idea) i then went upstairs and watched a 2 hour long lore video explaining the whole game, it’s past, and details. for 2 hours i unfolded so many layers about one single franchise game it was unbelievable. after that video i ended up crying. (i’m a baby) mainly bc i’m a sucker for a good story and i was just so impressed by scott’s ability to capture time like that. i never been so determined and excited to find out more about a game. it’s f*kd up, but it’s such a detailed story with so much interaction within and it’s very pleasing to follow along. fast forward a little bit, it’s a few years later and i’m still on the fnaf train. playing trying to find my own clues, watching a whole bunch of lore videos (thanks ryetoast😉) and getting deeper into this game i could’ve ever imagined. it’s 2023 and i still have so many unanswered questions! but it’s not over yet ladies n gents. we’re still here to crack this case, and it’s been so fun
If poster girl is the same as Amelia, then based on Scotts word, i think shes an Equivalent. Like game characters show up in the books usually as themselves but book characters dont carry over. Instead of Amelia we might get Amy or Melly or something different altogether. But theres always the chance that SteelWool will just import her as is cuz they Aren't Scott
>But theres always the chance that SteelWool will just import her as is cuz they Aren't Scott Scott still has final say on everything Steel Wool does, they have to get his approval, especially when it comes to lore.
I feel like tossing Moon out as a candidate for one of the red eyes is a bit unfair. He's also a treat, the eyes are relatively high up in the air which Moon is capable of flying, he only comes out in the dark, , and he is a bit more reclusive then the glamrocks. My bet is that the more visible pair of red eyes are Moon. And that interview mentioned they were going to model the dlc after the endo section and the daycare and both Sun & Moon have become extremely popular so why not feature them more. I know Afton and Venny are the main villains, I'm just tried of Moon being ignored and not given a chance.
But more reclusive than the Glamtrocks. My butt is that more visible Paradise are the Moon. And the interview mentioned they were going to model the dlc after the endo section and the daycare and both sun & moon have been extremely popular so why not feature them more
My biggest question is what happened to DJ Music Man. All MatPat memes aside, you can’t just have a 2 story robotic spider monster crawling on the loose. All the other animatronics are broken and trapped but the DJ is fully functional.
Great theory as always! I agree with pretty much everything here. I think it'd be super cool if the games and books started to play off each other more and I think that's what they're ultimately trying to do with Tales. Seems like sort of a comeback to what Silved Eyes and SL did (which I loved) but obviously way more prominent
Small thing but, it the Glamrocks could be the eye-pairs' owners, and the reason why one pair is dimmer is that Roxy's eyes got removed and she's got that FNAF 2 Bonnie glowing dots
Honestly my first theory on Ruin was precisely that Gregory on the monitors was not Gregory, but Glitchtrap disguising himself as a child he had seen. Especially since the most emphasized image of Greg is one where he’s looking directly at the camera with the words “HELP ME_” at the bottom. The underscore especially makes me think of sci-fi scenes where a computer begins typing out words on its own and they show up with a blinking underscore. It implies that the speaker isn’t physically trapped in the building, but their consciousness is trapped inside the computers there. It’s pretty good bait for a child. “Oh no help me I’m just a kid who got trapped please head deeper inside the building to save me :(((“
@@AeonKnigh432 yeah and then add funny emojis all over the map that kill you then put some text saying "thuglife 2pac forever" then give everyone MLG shades and a bunch of MLG memes and filters then reveal that glamrock freddy is illuminati confirmed then give everyone 1337 faz tokens
Love me some Toast videos. Found this page by accident and never left. I cook alot too so I might be checking out thise aprons. I love how Toast can take the same info Dawko and MatPat have, and make different theories. Also! I've noticed the upgrade happening the background. Went from little closet room. To green screen. Now it looks like a whole new house now. Hopefully not the FNAF 4 house. I see you Toast!! Loving the come up.
I genuinely thought for a second that you meant that the actual game itself was a trap. As in like, you download the game and Steel Wool personally breaks into your house and steals your light-up sketchers
I definitely find this take interesting, and genuinely possible. The likelihood? Unsure, cause that's just how FNaF is, it's hard to predict. My personal take on the leaked GGY story implying that Gregory himself has done bad things is an attempt to make a more dynamic character. It's very clear that Steel Wool is taking the more constructive criticisms to heart when making Ruin, trying to make it scarier for example by building off of the parts fans openly liked. Therefore, I think they've definitely heard the critique that people are generally getting bored of every evil/threat/villain basically being William over and over, and GGY seems like a result of that. However, like I said, I think it's to make Gregory dynamic, because with the info given in GGY, it's now implied that he's done both evil and good things, including petty stuff in between, with the connecting factor being what he does directly benefits him specifically, and I think this lines up with what we get out of him in the game. During the game he's generally careless about the crimes he commits and the damages he causes so long as the result benefits him, and he is generally deflective when information regarding him is brought up, even hesitating to say his name, suggesting to me he doesn't speak entirely what he's really thinking. Of course, as with any thought, it's merely a theory and there's plenty room for a great handful of other possibilities and explanations.
While it is a tad disappointing that we're Security Breach lore from the books instead of the game itself, it does feel like the pieces are starting to fall into place. Probably helps that I enjoy these books a lot anyway.
Ayy, wonderful new video! Just some things want to point out - Burntrap ending is canon one, it was mentioned in SB soundtrack on Spotify that was recently oficially released, next, I still believe that Yellow part on Chica on the poster - color reflection of the statue, because it's too warm color to be casually used on cold shading for her. Okay, so another thing to point out, we can really have Afton dead for DLC, his Glitchtrap virus was feeling alright without directional presence, so his body may rest and it'll explain why Gregory's still here (if he is), got again under control of virus, maybe even through Freddy, since they were together and Freddy was infected in book. Anyway, it's really good and now I'm waiting for Storyteller origins of Amalgam
I would say in regards to Amelia being the character, Chekov's gun is not that a detail that is focused on WILL come back. It is that it SHOULD come back. Amelia being there doesnt mean she will come back. It could just be that she was a random character that was described in detial because it was a book
I think with what we know now about the GGY story, I have a strange feeling the Arcade Conspiracy bags have been about Amelia. I'm trying find a way to put it in words but it fits. Especially the last bag where the person was pleading to stay and try to beat PQ
Couple things to consider, the new character book hints that the burntrap ending is most likely cannon and before decending into that battle freddy makes mention that the elevator is a one way trip. Meaning that Gregory could have run from being crushed by rubble, but couldn't have left. I think he would be found trapped in the old pizza place
Interesting theory. I came to the same conclusions about Amelia potentially being the main character. However, I think its possible the game will be a prequel instead showing how Glitchtrap infected the pizzaplex and how Gregory came to be in Freddy's hatch. I believe that the Pizzaplex has just reopened after a different disaster. It'd be very FNAF 2 and would set the scene for future dlc.
There's actually an alternate explanation using the Vanny ending and it's simple. When we see the two vanny's, the one at the fire was the representation of Vannesa, and Vannytrap finally took over. Catching Gregory and Freddy off guard, she captures the poor boy to continue glitchtrap's plans.
In the Afton ending, we don’t actually see Gregory escape, just Gregory with Freddy running for the elevator. Freddy tells us that the elevator can be used once, and Chica is in the main lobby in the teaser, so Chica must have used the elevator. If Chica did use the elevator, it seems like an extra trip for a barely-working elevator that apparently could and has been used only once is already enough for the elevator. What if Gregory has not escaped the boss fight section. I doubt that Gregory would have gone into the elevator with Chica, and if Gregory and Freddy went in the elevator before Chica, then how did Chica go to the lobby? Gregory and Freddy could be trapped in the old Freddy’s, hiding from the Afton Blob. Also, if MatPat is right about his Blob theory, then in the Afton ending, Afton does get what he wants. The theory says that Henry’s plan did work, but only for remnant, but not agony. Essentially, the souls of the MCI and Puppet have been saved, and even Afton’s remnant was burnt, but the agony wasn’t destroyed. The Blob is a gigantic mass of agony, drawn to objects that contain more agony, and that wants Afton dead. Vanny made the Burntrap suit so that the Blob would recognize Burntrap, attack Burntrap, and then Burntrap would take over the Blob, now having a massive, powerful body. If this is true, Vanny and Afton survive, the Pizzaplex is destroyed, and Gregory hasn’t escaped.
He got me with that bread bit. My brain was like “how did I miss that?? No matter, it’s clearly a reference to toast guy from FNAF 2 when people thought the purple guy was wearing a piece of toast”.
I feel like Susie is an important character and is going to appear in The ruin DLC or at least future games. Here’s why: In the ruin DLC poster we only see glamrock Chica and not the other glamrock animatronics, that’s odd isn’t it. Also if DLC girl is Amelia, that’s weird considering we see Amelia play fruity maze which is the game Susie played in Fnaf 6 Before her death. What I also realised was that Amelia has blonde hair just like Susie ( just wanted to point that out) But that’s not all. In the security breach game glamrock Chica isn’t like the others ( especially compared to Roxanne and Monty). Glamrock Chica in the game is heard crying, why was that left in if there is no significance behind it. Not only that but Glamrock Chica is the only antagonist to know Gregory’s name in the early game. Not even Vanessa knows that until around the middle of the game. I noticed how Glamrock Chica is not being aggressive and rude while trying to lure Gregory. Roxy and Monty are instead aggressive and rude when talking to Gregory. Chica is one of the only animatronics to not have an attraction dedicated to her. Roxy has Roxy raceway, Monty has Monty golf and Glamrock Freddy basically owns the place but I’m not sure if that counts. Why is glam rock Chica so different compared to the others. There’s got to be reason behind it. Scott and steel wool wouldn’t add that stuff in if it wasn’t of importance. The references of Susie and how glamrock Chica ( an Version of Chica, which is the animatronic Susie possessed in the games) has special tiny details is definitely telling us something. Susie is an important character. After all she was the only missing child to be officially shown and have some of her background told meanwhile the other four are left mysterious. AND I believe Susie is the only missing child to have an story in the fazbear frights dedicated too, correct me if I’m wrong. Is it just me that thinks Susie has some mega lore significance or something.
I think Susie is a girl William Afton adopted after he lost Elizabeth. The Candy Cadet stories have heavily implied that the five MCI children were adopted before all five of them were slaughtered in the MCI. Note that like Gregory and Vanessa, robots based on William's son and daughter, Amelia also appears to be a robot replication that's based on a formally living person, Susie. Security Breach and Princess Quest 1 heavily imply that the Wlliam Afton in the games hasn't been the evil bunny mastermind controlling everything. He is also a victim of getting possessed by the mysterious and evil force lurking inside Springtrap's body. Otherwise, he will be a lot less hesitant to hurt Gregory and Michael. Look at Scraptrap's lines in PS. He behaves more akin to a secondary entity that's forcing William to slaughter Michael, "Bittersweet, but fitting." Even Glamrock Freddy can be forced to kill Gregory by this evil monster we've seen in Princess quest 1.
@@justice8718 >The Candy Cadet stories have heavily implied that the five MCI children were adopted before all five of them were slaughtered in the MCI. ...no? There's several stories, one of which being the Orphans. A man adopts Five orphans to keep them safe, put them in one place. He left to buy food and returned to find a burglar broke in and killed all five of them. Affording only one coffin, he stitched them together to make one, and buried the kids. NONE of this relates to Afton's history aside from "5 children dead, a man" Then what about he Five Keys story? The Five Kittens? >Security Breach and Princess Quest 1 heavily imply that the Wlliam Afton in the games hasn't been the evil bunny mastermind controlling everything. He is also a victim of getting possessed by the mysterious and evil force lurking inside Springtrap's body. ?????what He isnt *in* springtrap's body, when we see him in FNAF 6, he's in *an entirely different suit*, this is not a redesign. From the books and 4, we get the idea he was a piece of shit before he started killing. He's pitting his Youngest Son against his Eldest via his Youngest's favorite toy. (He Hates you.) (He knows you Hate it here.) (He locked you in your room again.) He's outright slapped his daughter for interrupting his work. We know he DID, at one point, torment Michael with animatronics, possibly even outright Nightmares. Assuming the runaway is Michael in MM, William's outright slamming on the door and screaming at him, and this is a reoccurring deal... "the mysterious and evil force lurking inside Springtrap's body" is *straight up William Afton.* There IS a thing possessing Afton's Body/Springtrap, that's William himself. Much like Michael possessed his OWN body... And the MCI kids the withereds, Funtimes, and Ennard.
@@higueraft571 My God. Stop using the goddamn Books to characterize William, Henry, and Charlie. They're practically completely different characters in the games. Game William is overprotective of his kids and cheated life and death for them. He's a lot more like book Henry in how over obsessive they can be about their children. In comparison, Game Henry is physically abusive to William's creations and his own children (Charlie) by restraining them with "control shocks". Book Henry also hated the idea of tying himself to corruptive business practices while Game Henry took the wheel and blamed everyone, except himself, for the shit going on. We already have Golden Freddy being a clear example of an animatronic containing multiple souls into one package. We have seen what Springtrap looks like within his circuits, in Princess Quest. He is a literal amalgamation of souls that controls various victims to do its bidding. Considering that bringing the dead back to life takes a ton of love effort for Book Henry, it's questionable for why would William Afton kill his son when he did everything to bring him back. Silly Willy is honestly not the monster behind everything. What controls him is.
@@justice8718 Why does William pit his son against his other son. Why is he literally slamming on the door and screaming at his children. Why did he send Michael into a LITERAL deathtrap. Why does Michael know about the FNAF 4s. >Game William is overprotective of his kids and cheated life and death for them. The only case of this is Elizabeth in Sister Location. He tells her not to interact with Baby, and if the Encyclopedia is to be trusted... he VERY much didnt want her to die. (which you dont even really need that for, it simply reinforces that idea) Yet it doesnt mean he *wont* abuse her, simply he valued her life. >He's a lot more like book Henry in how over obsessive they can be about their children. Yet he doesnt treat Elizabeth like a precious child, or Michael, or CC. He uses them like Tools. Michael is sent to free Elizabeth from the bunker. CC is pitted against his older brother. Elizabeth he attempts to shape in his own image. The "Golden Child". Book Henry LASERFOCUSES on Charlie, at the expense of his family. He completely breaks down and goes off the deep end, pouring all his love, agony, tears, and so on into an Ella doll. Then creates 4 (or 5) versions of "Charlie" so she can have a life, realizing how far he's fallen and killing himself soon after. (Most likely realizing and accepting that Charlie, his Daughter, is straight up dead, he made a mimicry of her that's just another person.) Also, it's important to note: AGAIN the only one we know Afton may have possibly "cheated life and death for" is Elizabeth, and that wasnt intentional. >Book Henry also hated the idea of tying himself to corruptive business practices while Game Henry took the wheel and blamed everyone, except himself, for the shit going on. And... how are they separate? Henry has "separated" himself from Corruptive Business Practices He "was not at fault" for what William did, aside from "letting that wound fester", he showed up at the last minute to try and "fix" everything (with a poorly thought out plan). I'm REALLY curious how you'd say his practices are corrupt, he's creating a convincing Pizzeria to draw everyone back and trap them. If anything, if you point towards the Lawsuits and killing of people who know too much, that's another instance of his laser-focus. "Achieve the goal, at the expense of all else". Bring Charlie Back. End It All. >We already have Golden Freddy being a clear example of an animatronic containing multiple souls into one package. Yes, and as someone else has theorized... CC possessed the Endo, while TOYSNHK possessed the Shell. >We have seen what Springtrap looks like within his circuits, in Princess Quest. In Help Wanted you mean, Glitchtrap. Using the books again, which is again a clear sign when searching in the games too... The Dead Forget. While it could simply be a case of "This is the REAL me now" (again supported by the books)... We know the Dead, over time, forget parts of their past Life. To the point they forget they're anything more than the Animatronics, to the point they forget their "friend" is their own killer. A Boy being crammed into a female Animatronic (eg Chica) would begin to refer to theirself as "She", not "He". And if his name were "John", he'd begin calling himself "Chica." William Afton was stuck in that suit for *30* years in a damp, dark room. Trapped there in an Eternal Torment caused by Vengeful Spirits. >He is a literal amalgamation of souls that controls various victims to do its bidding. And your only evidence is via the Glitch in Security Breach. If i remember right, it's been SHOWN that it's possible to be "Split" into versions of the same person. The Funtimes are a prime example of this, several MCI souls blended together then split among several animatronics, that had the urge to become One again. >Considering that bringing the dead back to life takes a ton of love effort for Book Henry Love isnt what animated ""Charlie"" It certainly played a part in giving her a full Soul of sorts, but THE key part to every possession is Agony. Possibly with a connection/"cable" of Agony, other emotions can survive the transfer, or simply just Agony alone in some instances. But Agony is critical to every Posession. Charlie was left outside in the rain, then murdered, stabbed likely, possibly even still alive (barely) as the Puppet reached her? The MCI kids were likely crammed into the suits and died in the process, similarly to the player in FNAF 1 if they lost. TOYSNHK is likely a victim who was Springlocked, much like Afton, resulting in the MUCH stronger hate towards him. Afton was Springlocked, as well. If CC did possess an animatronic, according to the Logbook, then their Agony would be the immediate horror of being shoved in Fredbear's mouth, and being chomped down on. Henry's Agony was the crushing loss of his daughter, a loss that broke him mentally. We know Molten Freddy is comprised of at LEAST 5 whole souls as of FNAF 6, or "Remnant". Agony, a form of Dark Remnant, is part of a whole Soul/Remnant, and likely the other half given to Charlie (Love or such?) was Light Remnant. >it's questionable for why would William Afton kill his son when he did everything to bring him back. William, as far as we've seen, has NOT "brought back" the CC. William, as far as we've seen, has never brought back Michael. The CLOSEST point is when Ennard left his body, with *Baby* saying "You wont die". He has never brought back any of his children, Afton has only sent Michael off to (very likely) die intentionally. >Silly Willy is honestly not the monster behind everything. What controls him is. He's still a monster before the Springlocking, *unless you're saying he was "possessed" before he ever died* And the key question is: *What the fuck possesses him then?* It cant be Springlock, there's *Nothing* in him prior to his death, and there's been no killings with the suit after his death. THE closest you could come is, MAYBE, just "Oh the other suit he hopped into was mega haunted (why?) or he killed some kids or something and that possessed him", and that's both incredibly stupid and unsatisfying. And, THEN, why is it Purple. Purple is the Aftons' thing. Why wouldnt this "Other" be literally any other shade, to indicate it's an "Other"?
With Ruin Chica I'd like to point out the massive missing section on her head seems to line up with a major crack line on Shattered Chica. Same thing with how her right side of her torso seems smashed. It looks like the damage lines up to me.
The main problem i have with this theory is that it would mean Gregory being controlled by William would be completely pointless and add nothing to the story, he just eventually gets unpossessed for unexplained reason and is good now and now William wants another victim to take over, it just kinda makes it feel like Gregory's possession wouldnt be explored enough, i feel like it'd probably be more interesting especially with the gregory being taken over by william concept if the hidden mastermind eyes would be possessed Gregory actually one way or another, and itd also make the "hidden eyes being a hidden mastermind" make more sense cause the eyes being hidden doesnt really make sense cause the player already knows he exist so what would the point be in teasing him there if its so obvious that its him
What we need for the DLC Ruin are a great ending for both gregory, the glamrocks and Vanessa/Vanny, an ending which makes Afton gone for good then is replace by other antagonists like Eleanor, Ralpho the Bunny, Blackbird and others.
I agree, we need an ending that stops William for good. A straight up Gregory rescue is fine as long as ruin gives the honor of stopping William Afton for the final time.
I've uncovered evidence which I've been trying to get to Rye's attention in his Discord server that points to another possibility for the placement of Ruin in the timeline - it could, in fact, be a PREQUEL. I've found evidence that the Pizzaplex was ruined and evacuated in the past, then partially, and only partially, rebuilt and reopened. If the evidence from the books does translate to the games this time about GGY, AND Ruin is a trap, then GGY COULD be Gregory, not yet released from the control of Glitchtrap luring Ruin Girl into the Pizzaplex shortly after this earlier ruin of the building, while it's till closed and hasn't yet been repaired enough to reopen. We see evidence Ruin Girl WAS in the Pizzaplex at some point in the past, in the form of the shrine to Chica, and in that shrine, are the same kind of shoes as we see Ruin Girl wearing in the poster. But we see no sign she's still there nor that she's alive. She could be still there, but in a part we can't access, gone, dead, or escaped, we have no way of knowing.
@@higueraft571 The biggest bulk of it exists in the area where the Chica boss battle is. The area mistakenly all lumped together as "the sewers". I have footage I recorded that shows it's actually mostly the caved in ruins of the underground parking. A very tiny portion is legitimately sewers, but only a tiny part. The rest is not actually garbage from the Pizzaplex, but a mix of broken concrete, car parts, and other construction materials. All set in the remains of huge, rectangular rooms, the more intact of which, have yellow lines marking out parking stalls, with fences and walls added later blocking off caved in rubble. The rest is areas of the B1 and B2 floors, particularly in the eastern side, which would be the Utility Tunnel access to Monty Golf and the Daycare area. There's areas of indents in walls, where in the early development maps, showed hallways going through to the East side, or doors you can't open marked "out of order" also going to the same side you can't access. The rest is Freddy's voice line in Roxy Raceway about guests tending to leave things behind in emergencies, implying an evacuation at some point in the past, and the duffel note complaining about the place reopening and about something that happened to a group of kids that "everyone knows about". Almost nobody would know about anything ancient like the MCI as that would be over 50 years ago from the time when SB takes place, so it has to be something big, newsworthy and recent - like something doing major damage, enough to cave in major sections of the Pizzaplex, forcing an evacuation and closure for structural repairs, followed by a reopening, with something tragic happening to many kids during the emergency. (I'd share links to my video footage and still shots but RUclips doesn't like that anymore) If you're on Ryetoast's discord, you can find all this in the thread FEWOC in the theory crafting forum channel. I'm Seriously Unserious there.
I’ve considered Ruin a sequel, but now I don’t know if it’s a prequel to the game events. The balloon characters seem like they come from the balloon world arcade game. 🤷♀️ maybe like Vanessa, Gregory’s consciousness is trapped in one of arcade machines and needs the girl’s help to free himself.
Something to think about is before you go in the elevator it looks unstable and it’s the only was down he could be stuck down there if the elevator broke which has him still stuck Afton and canny alive and funnies pizza plex
The two eyes are most likely moondrop and the blob. Vanny’s eyes do glow red but are bigger compared to the one on the teaser and Burntraps eyes glow purple. The reason I think moon is one of them is because he has glowing red eyes and if the pizziaplex is ruined then it will most likely be dark which is seen in the poster. The glam rocks also cannot be one of the eyes so it just leaves the blob.
In the Afton ending, we don't actually see Gregory and Glamrock Freddy escape, just running trying to avoid the falling rubble. They could easily have been trapped by rubble. And Burntrap... Well, he always come back. Blob isn't going to kill him however hard it tries.
I'm going to say Ruin[DLC] is an "Alternate Timeline" that has nothing to do with the main story other then it being after one of the "Bad endings". Specifically either "The Fire escape one" or "The Shattered Freddy ending", both of which is where "Vanny dies" and "Glamrock Freddy stops working". the reason why is 2 fold 1: Afton would still be around even and have a body, if Vanny's gone and its clear he wants "Gregory" NOT "Vanny". Vanny is clearly just a pawn and Gregory is his TRUE APPRENTACE. and 2: it gets rid of Glamrock Freddy/Michael meaning as a kid you ARE FAR LESS SAFE. There is no hiding in Freddy this time. you will need to 'run" or "use the environment to your advantage". Much like how you could "hide in baby strollers" and "lockers" in the main game they will be WAY more usable now. also I think we WILL get Freddy/Michael back BUT only right at the end of the journey to save Gregory as a way of reminding him of good time with Freddy/Mike, and to snap him out of Afton's control. just my thoughts though. and when it comes out you can come back here and tell me how wrong I was, or don't. I don't really care tbh I'm just here to waste my time.
Gregory never escaped the pizzaplex on the Afton ending... The Elevator says it, once you go down you can't go back up. So he should be stuck down there, right?
Tbh there’s some parts in security breach that made me shit myself and it’s the weeping angel endos and and the destroyed glamrock chica part where u have to hide from her and the the Roxanne part was adrenaline pumping that it really.
Coming back to theories from 5before Ruin after the Scott interview 2.0 now makes me realize just how bad the Burntrap ending, and him being a final boss screwed us over in creating theories. It now makes a lot of sense that the Princess Quest ending was made to be the actually canon ending through Ruin, and not the Burntrap ending.
I am so happy seeing someone else talking about this possibility. When I saw the poster, I thought it was weird how synthetic, fake, Gregory's "Help me" screen was I mean, if you're asking for help, you're not gonna say it with the same face you would say "I don't care". He's very expressive on the other images, but the one that is asking for help is sooooo fake-looking So I immediately thought this was just a trap. They have footage of a child, and also possibly recording of him asking for help and such, so it would be very easy and reasonable to use that to get more children on the now ruined building I really hope this DLC is very good and can capture well the feeling of an abandoned, full of broken killing robots, dark and gloomy giant building. 'cause that would be just incredible
I appreciate the atmosphere and the rush of running away from animatronics, but the fact that all of these animatronics literally teleport to your location feels cheap. It's just a cheap way to capture you for the lack of a complex A.i.
9:09 My guess (and this is a longshot) is, she is Gregory's friend and since she knows he went into Pizzaplex and hasn't returned and she hasn't heard from him in a couple of days, she goes investigating. When she enters, she sees some sort of a footage with Gregory in the PIzzaplex, maybe even begging "help me", so she searches for him and as she gets close to "finding" him, but she gets jumped by Vanny/Afton and she realises Gregory was ... the whole time (insert ending - either he is dead, corrupted beyond salvation, luring other children inside, etc.). Eventually she defeats Vanny/Afton and evacuates immediately.
Honestly, I do think the theory about the girl on the DLC poster is Amelia, and about Chekov's gun. What I'm basing it off of, So in the fazbear frights series, Book 3 (1:35 am) the last mini-story is titled "the new kid" ⚠️ Spoiler ahead for the people who haven't read it btw! So these kids called Devon mick and Kelsey Go explore this abandoned Freddy Pizzarea, But whilst exploring the abandoned Pizzarea One thing stood out whilst using Chekov's gun. quote from the book: (page 207) "Whilst they were in the bathroom, Devon was pretty sure that he heard Something slithering through the walls. He didn't say anything but how the other boys' faces paled, he knew they heard it too." There were other things mentioned in the book that were quite unnecessary but they had a reason(that i know of) this one didn't. This is inspired by MatPats theory of it being the "Blob" But just wanted to point it out! So she might aswell be Amelia! (Sorry if my grammar is off!) Thank you for reading! :DD Btw I love the videos! And the theory's keep up the good work!
for the bright and faded eyes, though your arguement with vanny and afton made sense, it could still be monty and roxy because monty wears glasses, which make the light faded coming from his eyes, it actually might just be that and were over thinking it, who knows..
My guess for what's dripping from Chica's mouth in the title drop poster: Has to be leftovers, either some pizza ingredients, pre-made full pizzas, or pre-made "Chica's Chowda" meals.
My cool theory is that Glitchtrap swapped minds with Gregory completely at the end, and what was actually grabbed and pulled into the blob was Gregory's AI/mind now in the body of Burntrap. That's why he was reaching out and trying to get to them, and then was grabbed by the Blob (who is also affected by the virus). that's why it says "HELP ME_" in similar font to the IT'S ME stuff.
I think that, simply put, the electronic screen showing Gregory asking for help is at the start of the game ( FNAF: SB ). There is a note in a security office in the main entrance ( the right one from the view of entering the Pizzaplex ) that is Vanessa, not understanding why a cop just called that he had received a call from the Pizzaplex asking for help. However she had responded to the police that she was the only one there. SO I think that the help me message was either to ask help to the cop if he enters the Pizzaplex, or to ask help to somebody else that could possibly be in the Pizzaplex. Also, the cameras are in black and white, oppositely to the cameras we can access on the Fazwatch, which are what security cameras see. I don't know why, in all seriousness, are the cameras different...
Here’s what I think: 1. The Blob is the remains of Molten Freddy, I don’t think anyone died in the Fnaf 6 ending not even Michael, fnaf has its ways of bringing random characters into the series out of nowhere and it’s even better at bringing things back. It was even stated in UCN by one of the death lines if I remember correctly one of the animatronics state that they’ll always be here no matter how many times you burn them. 2. Afton’s Motives behind killing children.. after Evan’s death or the crying child’s I believe Afton went down into a spiral of Insanity, William did promise his son he’d put him back together. And was probably desperate if I’d imagine so he needed ways to revive Evan whether that meant as a machine or an actual Human being. He probably started studying demonic and satanic kinda stuff and grew into discovering stuff like “remnant”. If you think about it.. he ran a children’s restaurant and killing adults would be to “risky” for him. So he probably decided children were a better idea? I mean children are more gullible and it would be easier to hide their bodies. Which could also be why he goes after Gregory, children are just simply exploitable. 3. What is Security Breach? I believe security breach is just saying “here we go again”. Take a second to think about this Remember the message you get from one the bags saying something about “everybody remembers what happened to those kids.” it’s probably the question we should be asking as well, the place wouldn’t be reopened by someone like Henry or people who worked in the original Freddy’s locations because that’s just common sense, everyone really does remember. a follow up question would be “Who Cares?”; people who aren’t associated with the actual places or people who never knew would only go there knowing what happened to those kids while not really knowing at all. Just like in the Fnaf 3 we hear the phone guy, he was trying to open an establishment based on scaring people with the old Freddy stuffs. Just like Fnaf VR. Security Breach is probably someone dumb like him who has a lot of money; giving afton his chance to strike back. 4. Where is Cassidy? All I’m going to say is Princess Quest arcade machines. It’s very clear to me that either cassidy is in the machines somehow being contained. Or the games simply give us a clue as to where she might’ve went. 5. What about Michael and Elizabeth? It’s very possible they survived too, I mean I don’t think they are ready to reintroduce the other characters or tell us where they went off to. I hope this is useful information and insight to you RyeToast. (If you see this just know I love your content!)
Crackpot Hypothesis: This is a second pizzaplex located in Massachusetts, still connected to the Fazbear Entertainment network. There's evidence in TFTP that there is more than one Pizzaplex, as the location described in "Pressure" from 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘯𝘪𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘢 doesn't align with the description of the Pizzaplex in game or the Pizzaplex that's visited in "Cleithrophobia". The Afton Virus infected the whole Fazbear Entertainment Network, most of the pizzaplex locations fell to ruin after the virus wreaked havoc, and Gregory is stuck in the Network (maybe with Vanessa?).
That makes sense afton always comes back and sun probably didn’t get infected bc he was maybe in control when the virus came out but moon was deactivated so it took him over and the rest are ai except from Freddy bc we all probably agree micheal afton is Freddy bc Micheal burned in the pizzaria sim establishment and his should probably roamed until he could go to something and that was probably Freddy and he seemed to forget everything until they went into pizzaria sim and he said “I am not me”. And sun and moon would have good virus resistance bc they will be close to kids and they will need to stay virus clean or else it will be a slaughter
With Gregory mirroring the crying child and Amelia specifically called out to be playing arcade games - much like we saw Suzie do just before she got killed - AND with what the books have been talking about with the whole Afton Amalgamation I think we're prepping to go on an adventure to where it all started. Since the daycare room featured a ballpit it even works to have the "time traveling ball pit" present in the new DLC. Do I think it actually time travels? No. But I do think if they implement it, that it'll be our device to travel into these memories in order to quell the anger inside the blob. With Charlie also present in the pizzaplex somewhere (seeing as nightmarionne is represented everywhere and considering the fact that the post-it note room is highly theorised to have had her in it - at least for a while) that represents the three earliest deaths in the timeline, and most likely the three that meant the most to Afton as it helped shape him and his motives to kill in the first place. CC died, which made him turn on his own son and his former business partner, and it also led to him dicing Charlie outside the pizzeria. But I don't think his anger stopped there, seeing as Afton decided to kill Suzie and 4 other kids in what became known as the MCI.
What I love most about this theory on the DLC, is Amelia's motivation for answering the SOS call. Because that makes so much fucking sense for a little kid. It is an AMAZING little kid motive. If I could have found some secret way at age 9 to beat my older brothers high scores in shit, know for a fact I would have jumped at the chance.
So I just had a thought and I don't know if anyone has ever suggested this, but here goes: Also, talks on the GGY spoiler up ahead: Given that the glitchtrap virus makes people see glitchtrap, what if that the virus inside of Gregory was making him see another Vanny instead of Glitchtrap. When Freddy gets the eyes, he could've been infected with the virus at this point and that's when he could see the same Vanny that Gregory sees. In the fire ending, Freddy could've been completely taken over by the virus and that's why he just randomly lights fire to the place. This could explain the two Vanny ending. TLDR: There's one real Vanny, but since GGY is infected, he sees a second Vanny in place of Glitchtrap.
i think there’s something important with Amelia playing Fruity Maze specifically. it kinda goes along with the whole Chekvoz’s Gun thing. they mention Amelia is playing Fruity Maze and then, bam, she is related to Susie, or she dies just like Susie, or Glamrock Chica laid an egg and Amelia hatched from it or some shit Also Chica being the only animatronic visible and the Chica Chowda is more “this girl has some connection to Chica” evidence basically Chica is gonna be really important in Ruin i think
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I know this may be restating the obvious, but I think its interesting how Amelia is a girl who regularly plays Fruity Maze, and the only animatronic fully visible on the poster is a variant of Chica. They’re probably gonna do something related to Susie.
the thing I came up with/believe is that based on the GGY story and gregory being patient 46 my theory is that Gregory, is luring Amelia to the ruins of the pizza plex to kill her and continue aftons legacy. But I know its like yeah he lost his memories after glitchtrap leaves him but Id like to think that glitchtrap will keep trying to possess gregory and he must fight him but doesn't.
Ok, I count *three* big Chica references: she's visible in the poster, the weird Chowder teaser, and the fact Amelia is playing Fruity Maze: the same game Susie was playing just before her murder. Just as there are theories about other old characters being put back into human-looking forms, could this be a new body for Susie that has forgotten her previous experiences? Is this why GR Chica is drawn to her? Maybe the game broke for her because it contained something that spoke to her in the same way that Princess Quest does to others? I don't know if I can exactly call this a prediction, but I'm curious to see if our favourite clucker will finally get time in the spotlight. Maybe we'll even learn about Chica's *original* restaurant! 🐔🐔🐔
I mean, when I saw multiple pairs of red eyes, my first thought was the Blob. The eyes in the masks of the Blob do glow red like that. Assuming that it’s grown larger and more powerful since the ending of Security Breach, that could be why the eyes look to be so far apart.
What if ruin is all in aftons head because notice how the girl is black and white while her shoes are purple and red. Purple (represents) afton and red (elizabeths hair color). So what if the girl on the ruin poster is the memory of Elizabeth. And Gregory is fighting afton with memories.
Idea: Amelia is Gregory's sister and when he goes missing she goes to find him. She gets to the destroyed Pizza Plex and has to fight glitch trap / burntrap to try to save herself from being taken over or to help Gregory. This all started because Gregory suggested they should visit the pizza plex and when they got home they realized he wasn't with them. So a few days later once the scene is clear Amelia goes back to find and save her brother. Either she finds and saves him or she is taken over by the virus. This is just a Theory I doubt any of it will happen but it might be why she would go no clue though.
Why I agree the girl could be Amelia. People often pay too much attention on what they believe to be a chekov's gun, but forget that red herrings exist
I don't know but the Help Me Screen looks totally sus for me. Gregory is showing so much emotions in the others and in this screen... he's just starring and there is no background. It really looks like a trap to lurk someone in.
9:49 I heard it said many times that Gregory didn't escape the Afton ending. How is he going to use an elevator to get back up when the whole place has crumbled that far? Plus gameplay wise the elevator can't even go back. He is trapped in the sinkhole.
I think the hideen red eyes are a very far stretch. even when brighten up they're barely visible. The hidden ''eyes'' could just be texturing on the shadows and at least for me the hidden ''eyes'' don't look that red.
Personally my bet is that Ruin is taking place inside of one of the Arcade cabinets and that the girl on the cover is the Digital version of Cassidy, just like glitchtrap is the digital version of Afton from when part of his suit was scanned this girl aka the girl from princess quest was scanned into the system when they found and scanned the golden Freddy suit. It makes sense that there is now two versions of both of them you have the real ones that are down in the basement because whatever is left of Cassidy is controlling the blob with the overriding desired to not let go and not let Afton pass on or escape and of course there is afton stuck in that suit feeling everything that’s happened to him and still unable to pass on or escape, then there are the digital versions running around in the system and now Afton is more like a virus maybe able to replicate himself.
In the Afton Ending the Elevator that Gregory and Freddy used to get down is no longer working, right? So both of them would still be trapped in the Afton Ending.
Maybe the orange coloring on Chica is chowda, this is probably the Afton ending, the Shattered animatronics was in the FNaF 6 location when it was collapsing, and in the ending scene we do see fire, plus the eyes in the shadows isn’t vanny and burn trap, it’s likely the endos, they have shown the ability to crawl on walls in the beginning of Security Breach.
Ok weird theory for one of the ends of ruin: After the afton virus goes away finally killing the physical form and digital form of afton and vanny gets released from him the fazbear entertainment team would rebuild the pizzaplex.
What do you think is going to happen in Ruin?
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Timestamps:
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00:33 What do we know about Security Breach Ruin?
04:20 What can we theorize about Ruin?
10:15 What is going to happen in FNAF Security Breach Ruin?
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How did he put this on 16h ago if the video came out 1m ago?
@@squigglepin probably that this video was private 16 hours ago,
It because when you upload a video that private , it begins with 1 second then it goes on. When it goes public it goes back to 1 second,
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I vote for Blob-Afton to be dubbed "Billy-blob"
OH MY GOD BILLY BLOB. THATS BRILLIANT
Peepaw Blobby
We need to make this the new name
Nice 🤣
It's great but I kinda prefer Blob-trap more.
Physicist Niels Bohr said that if you're not shocked by quantum mechanics, you've not fully understood it.
I think this also applies to FNAF lore.
Honestly yeah, it's that philosophical idea that the more you know about something the more you know you don't know anything about it
@@RyeToast lol
@@RyeToast the more you know, the more you know you don't know, you know?
I love fnaf lore so many theorys and storys funny thing is i still dont under stand william aftons motive on killing
It's hard to tell, I like to believe that he started killing in revenge for the death of the crying child. But eventually he discovers Remnant and then begins to seek immortality to bring his child back
He has a people in his shoe obviously
he's possessed by a Dark Remnant Entity,
it creates pain, suffering, gloom, fear, and agony wherever it goes, as that's what it feeds on, it sustains it.
this is why it kills.
William Afton killed himself (as seen in FNaF World Update 2's ending) after Circus Baby killed his daughter, Elizabeth, allowing this Entity full control.
it's why William is shown with white eyes of possession after her death, first in 1983 in FNaF 4, 1985 in FNaF 2's Save Them minigame, and lastly in 1995 in FNaF 3's Follow Me minigame.
Twisted sense of satisfaction, probably
For the lols
What if the six monitors indicates the different ending of the base game, implying that, no matter how you ended your version Ruin is what happen after? No matter if gregory escape or not, if it burns or not, someome in the future will find the pizzaplex remains and start the story and its nightmares all over again.
Interesting connection. I feel like as for the two pairs of eyes, it can’t be Vanny or BURNTRAP because of how their eyes are. Vannys eyes would’ve been much bigger and not dots. BURNTRAPs would’ve been red. I think it’s more likely to be moon and an endo, mainly because of what’s described by steelwool
Gregory escape or not, if it burns or not, someome in the future will find the pizzeria remains and start the story and it's nightmare and it's nightmares all over again.
I actually think both sun and moon are going to be out to kill vanny cause it kinda looks like its their endoskeleton fingers that are reaching for her in one of the images plus I really want moon to secretly be a goodguy
I've thought the DLC will build off of Vanessa asking us (as Gregory) to go check the main stage. We end up dying to Moon if we stay at the stage for too long, so I think that would be a fitting way to build off of the DLC.
Let alone we dont even know if Freddy is around, or even alive in the DLC teaser. He could be still around, we just don't know.
I think that is cannon to with the fact that she'll only help Gregory if he show her how to get a good highscore on arcade games.
hmm.
Freddy is around or even though I've been the DLC tealer. He could be still around, we just don't know.
For real life is that true
Also, Amelia is seen playing specifically Fruity Maze (apparently, i havent read the book yet lol).Which would mean nothing, but since Chica is in the poster, it almost makes me think maybe... I dunno, Suzie parallels? I dunno, I genuinely don't think it means anything. It's just a weird detail if Amelia ends up being our protagonist.
The Chica parallels are definitely there, which does feel weird
@@RyeToast Yeah, it's bizarre. And Gregory looks so much like CC that it makes me think it's on purpose.
She's also called "a princess."(which if we connect to The Princess from PQ - is yellow,has yellow hair) and Susie had yellow hair... yeah,just minor details for now.
@@RyeToast don't forget that chica seems more important than we think
Her plushies has a skull tag while the others has the fazbear entertainment logo
Before the post-it notes room, there's what seems to be a small space dedicated for chica (literally after the chica chase)
@@titan7789 Okay, that's also weird. This girl is weird.
A detail everyone seems to not notice is that there is a third pair of eyes under the ruin text upon brightening up the image. Don't know if it's ingdntional or just coincidental but it's there.
Interesting. I'll check it out
I wonder if one pair out of those mysterious eyes are Glamrock Bonnie's eyes (raw assumption)
@@_Chxco_ or maybe Freddy s eyes
@@_Chxco_ Unfortunately, I think in canon, he's just gone. I don't really see how he would be around - he's out of commission, was last seen in Gator Golf, and it seems like Afton took some of his parts. I would think he'd be destroyed.
For real life
Hey RyeToast! i just wanted to say i love your videos so much! it makes fnaf so much more interactive if that makes sense. i love how the community always has theories and ideas. it forces critical thinking, and brainstorming, and in my opinion, i think it really draws more people in. Please keep up the good work and never stop making videos!!!
Thank you so much!!! 🥺💚💚
I love the part about forcing critical thinking!! I've never been quite sure how to describe how @RyeToast presents their content, but that hits the nail on the head perfectly! It's just a different means of communicating information than a lot of the other FNAF creators I've seen, and truly does make you think much more broadly & critically 😊
@@luceharrietf i agree! probably tmi, but a few years ago my little cousin was playing fnaf. at that point in time i had no idea about the game or the lore behind anything at all. i’ve seen the bear, and the chicken, and the bunny and the fox, but i just didn’t know the complexity of the game and the universe within it. i was a fool. anyways, we were talking about it a little and i mentioned how this game doesn’t even seem scary. it’s just a chuck e. cheese simulator or something lol. again, i was a fool. my little cousin then proceeded to say in the most calm, unbothered manner: “oh yeah those robot suits have the souls of dead children in them”… huh😀i was gagged, and indeed scared. i wasn’t expecting a what i thought to be some kids indie game, to be soooooo deep. (girl bye you have no idea) i then went upstairs and watched a 2 hour long lore video explaining the whole game, it’s past, and details. for 2 hours i unfolded so many layers about one single franchise game it was unbelievable. after that video i ended up crying. (i’m a baby) mainly bc i’m a sucker for a good story and i was just so impressed by scott’s ability to capture time like that. i never been so determined and excited to find out more about a game. it’s f*kd up, but it’s such a detailed story with so much interaction within and it’s very pleasing to follow along. fast forward a little bit, it’s a few years later and i’m still on the fnaf train. playing trying to find my own clues, watching a whole bunch of lore videos (thanks ryetoast😉) and getting deeper into this game i could’ve ever imagined. it’s 2023 and i still have so many unanswered questions! but it’s not over yet ladies n gents. we’re still here to crack this case, and it’s been so fun
For real life don't stop
If poster girl is the same as Amelia, then based on Scotts word, i think shes an Equivalent. Like game characters show up in the books usually as themselves but book characters dont carry over. Instead of Amelia we might get Amy or Melly or something different altogether. But theres always the chance that SteelWool will just import her as is cuz they Aren't Scott
All very possible
>But theres always the chance that SteelWool will just import her as is cuz they Aren't Scott
Scott still has final say on everything Steel Wool does, they have to get his approval, especially when it comes to lore.
I feel like tossing Moon out as a candidate for one of the red eyes is a bit unfair. He's also a treat, the eyes are relatively high up in the air which Moon is capable of flying, he only comes out in the dark, , and he is a bit more reclusive then the glamrocks. My bet is that the more visible pair of red eyes are Moon. And that interview mentioned they were going to model the dlc after the endo section and the daycare and both Sun & Moon have become extremely popular so why not feature them more.
I know Afton and Venny are the main villains, I'm just tried of Moon being ignored and not given a chance.
That's fair. I could definitely see moon playing a big part in the DLC as he's somewhat of an everpresent threat in the pizzaplex
But more reclusive than the Glamtrocks. My butt is that more visible Paradise are the Moon. And the interview mentioned they were going to model the dlc after the endo section and the daycare and both sun & moon have been extremely popular so why not feature them more
I know Afton and Venny are the main villains, I'm just tried of Moon being ignored and not given a chance.
@@RyeToast the moon playing a bigger part in the DLC hes somewhat of an everpresnt treat in the pizzaplex
@@tayloranderson7547 reclusive as in they don't show up as much as the glamrocks.
My biggest question is what happened to DJ Music Man. All MatPat memes aside, you can’t just have a 2 story robotic spider monster crawling on the loose. All the other animatronics are broken and trapped but the DJ is fully functional.
MUSIC MAN!!!!!!
Great theory as always! I agree with pretty much everything here. I think it'd be super cool if the games and books started to play off each other more and I think that's what they're ultimately trying to do with Tales. Seems like sort of a comeback to what Silved Eyes and SL did (which I loved) but obviously way more prominent
Small thing but, it the Glamrocks could be the eye-pairs' owners, and the reason why one pair is dimmer is that Roxy's eyes got removed and she's got that FNAF 2 Bonnie glowing dots
Very possible
Honestly my first theory on Ruin was precisely that Gregory on the monitors was not Gregory, but Glitchtrap disguising himself as a child he had seen. Especially since the most emphasized image of Greg is one where he’s looking directly at the camera with the words “HELP ME_” at the bottom. The underscore especially makes me think of sci-fi scenes where a computer begins typing out words on its own and they show up with a blinking underscore. It implies that the speaker isn’t physically trapped in the building, but their consciousness is trapped inside the computers there. It’s pretty good bait for a child. “Oh no help me I’m just a kid who got trapped please head deeper inside the building to save me
:(((“
I swear this guy makes the best fnaf lore
Well thank you!
Hopefully the DLC isn't broken! But I am hyped for it
I have faith in steel wool
I mean it's called Ruin, so obviously the goal is going to be to make it as broken as possible on purpose
@@AeonKnigh432 yeah and then add funny emojis all over the map that kill you then put some text saying "thuglife 2pac forever" then give everyone MLG shades and a bunch of MLG memes and filters then reveal that glamrock freddy is illuminati confirmed then give everyone 1337 faz tokens
@@ShrimChamiwhat
@@ShrimChami what is this monstrosity
Love me some Toast videos. Found this page by accident and never left. I cook alot too so I might be checking out thise aprons. I love how Toast can take the same info Dawko and MatPat have, and make different theories.
Also! I've noticed the upgrade happening the background. Went from little closet room. To green screen. Now it looks like a whole new house now. Hopefully not the FNAF 4 house. I see you Toast!! Loving the come up.
I genuinely thought for a second that you meant that the actual game itself was a trap. As in like, you download the game and Steel Wool personally breaks into your house and steals your light-up sketchers
Scott breaks into your home and steals your sanity.
I definitely find this take interesting, and genuinely possible. The likelihood? Unsure, cause that's just how FNaF is, it's hard to predict.
My personal take on the leaked GGY story implying that Gregory himself has done bad things is an attempt to make a more dynamic character. It's very clear that Steel Wool is taking the more constructive criticisms to heart when making Ruin, trying to make it scarier for example by building off of the parts fans openly liked. Therefore, I think they've definitely heard the critique that people are generally getting bored of every evil/threat/villain basically being William over and over, and GGY seems like a result of that.
However, like I said, I think it's to make Gregory dynamic, because with the info given in GGY, it's now implied that he's done both evil and good things, including petty stuff in between, with the connecting factor being what he does directly benefits him specifically, and I think this lines up with what we get out of him in the game. During the game he's generally careless about the crimes he commits and the damages he causes so long as the result benefits him, and he is generally deflective when information regarding him is brought up, even hesitating to say his name, suggesting to me he doesn't speak entirely what he's really thinking.
Of course, as with any thought, it's merely a theory and there's plenty room for a great handful of other possibilities and explanations.
While it is a tad disappointing that we're Security Breach lore from the books instead of the game itself, it does feel like the pieces are starting to fall into place.
Probably helps that I enjoy these books a lot anyway.
Fair enough!
@@RyeToast I had this idea to male a fan made fnaf book series called "five nights at Freddy's, Glitch in the system"
Ayy, wonderful new video!
Just some things want to point out - Burntrap ending is canon one, it was mentioned in SB soundtrack on Spotify that was recently oficially released, next, I still believe that Yellow part on Chica on the poster - color reflection of the statue, because it's too warm color to be casually used on cold shading for her. Okay, so another thing to point out, we can really have Afton dead for DLC, his Glitchtrap virus was feeling alright without directional presence, so his body may rest and it'll explain why Gregory's still here (if he is), got again under control of virus, maybe even through Freddy, since they were together and Freddy was infected in book.
Anyway, it's really good and now I'm waiting for Storyteller origins of Amalgam
All great points! And hey, wonderful new thumbnail!
@@RyeToast I really do appreciate that, thanks! 💛💛💛
I would say in regards to Amelia being the character, Chekov's gun is not that a detail that is focused on WILL come back. It is that it SHOULD come back. Amelia being there doesnt mean she will come back. It could just be that she was a random character that was described in detial because it was a book
I think with what we know now about the GGY story, I have a strange feeling the Arcade Conspiracy bags have been about Amelia. I'm trying find a way to put it in words but it fits. Especially the last bag where the person was pleading to stay and try to beat PQ
That's honestly pretty possible
Couple things to consider, the new character book hints that the burntrap ending is most likely cannon and before decending into that battle freddy makes mention that the elevator is a one way trip. Meaning that Gregory could have run from being crushed by rubble, but couldn't have left. I think he would be found trapped in the old pizza place
Interesting theory. I came to the same conclusions about Amelia potentially being the main character. However, I think its possible the game will be a prequel instead showing how Glitchtrap infected the pizzaplex and how Gregory came to be in Freddy's hatch. I believe that the Pizzaplex has just reopened after a different disaster. It'd be very FNAF 2 and would set the scene for future dlc.
There's actually an alternate explanation using the Vanny ending and it's simple. When we see the two vanny's, the one at the fire was the representation of Vannesa, and Vannytrap finally took over. Catching Gregory and Freddy off guard, she captures the poor boy to continue glitchtrap's plans.
In the Afton ending, we don’t actually see Gregory escape, just Gregory with Freddy running for the elevator. Freddy tells us that the elevator can be used once, and Chica is in the main lobby in the teaser, so Chica must have used the elevator. If Chica did use the elevator, it seems like an extra trip for a barely-working elevator that apparently could and has been used only once is already enough for the elevator. What if Gregory has not escaped the boss fight section. I doubt that Gregory would have gone into the elevator with Chica, and if Gregory and Freddy went in the elevator before Chica, then how did Chica go to the lobby? Gregory and Freddy could be trapped in the old Freddy’s, hiding from the Afton Blob.
Also, if MatPat is right about his Blob theory, then in the Afton ending, Afton does get what he wants. The theory says that Henry’s plan did work, but only for remnant, but not agony. Essentially, the souls of the MCI and Puppet have been saved, and even Afton’s remnant was burnt, but the agony wasn’t destroyed. The Blob is a gigantic mass of agony, drawn to objects that contain more agony, and that wants Afton dead. Vanny made the Burntrap suit so that the Blob would recognize Burntrap, attack Burntrap, and then Burntrap would take over the Blob, now having a massive, powerful body. If this is true, Vanny and Afton survive, the Pizzaplex is destroyed, and Gregory hasn’t escaped.
He got me with that bread bit. My brain was like “how did I miss that?? No matter, it’s clearly a reference to toast guy from FNAF 2 when people thought the purple guy was wearing a piece of toast”.
Oh my god 😳 I didn't even think of that. That's amazing
I feel like Susie is an important character and is going to appear in The ruin DLC or at least future games.
Here’s why:
In the ruin DLC poster we only see glamrock Chica and not the other glamrock animatronics, that’s odd isn’t it. Also if DLC girl is Amelia, that’s weird considering we see Amelia play fruity maze which is the game Susie played in Fnaf 6 Before her death. What I also realised was that Amelia has blonde hair just like Susie ( just wanted to point that out)
But that’s not all. In the security breach game glamrock Chica isn’t like the others ( especially compared to Roxanne and Monty). Glamrock Chica in the game is heard crying, why was that left in if there is no significance behind it. Not only that but Glamrock Chica is the only antagonist to know Gregory’s name in the early game. Not even Vanessa knows that until around the middle of the game. I noticed how Glamrock Chica is not being aggressive and rude while trying to lure Gregory. Roxy and Monty are instead aggressive and rude when talking to Gregory. Chica is one of the only animatronics to not have an attraction dedicated to her. Roxy has Roxy raceway, Monty has Monty golf and Glamrock Freddy basically owns the place but I’m not sure if that counts.
Why is glam rock Chica so different compared to the others. There’s got to be reason behind it. Scott and steel wool wouldn’t add that stuff in if it wasn’t of importance.
The references of Susie and how glamrock Chica ( an Version of Chica, which is the animatronic Susie possessed in the games) has special tiny details is definitely telling us something. Susie is an important character. After all she was the only missing child to be officially shown and have some of her background told meanwhile the other four are left mysterious. AND I believe Susie is the only missing child to have an story in the fazbear frights dedicated too, correct me if I’m wrong. Is it just me that thinks Susie has some mega lore significance or something.
Glamrock Chica does have her own area, the Mazercise area.
I think Susie is a girl William Afton adopted after he lost Elizabeth. The Candy Cadet stories have heavily implied that the five MCI children were adopted before all five of them were slaughtered in the MCI. Note that like Gregory and Vanessa, robots based on William's son and daughter, Amelia also appears to be a robot replication that's based on a formally living person, Susie.
Security Breach and Princess Quest 1 heavily imply that the Wlliam Afton in the games hasn't been the evil bunny mastermind controlling everything. He is also a victim of getting possessed by the mysterious and evil force lurking inside Springtrap's body. Otherwise, he will be a lot less hesitant to hurt Gregory and Michael. Look at Scraptrap's lines in PS. He behaves more akin to a secondary entity that's forcing William to slaughter Michael, "Bittersweet, but fitting." Even Glamrock Freddy can be forced to kill Gregory by this evil monster we've seen in Princess quest 1.
@@justice8718 >The Candy Cadet stories have heavily implied that the five MCI children were adopted before all five of them were slaughtered in the MCI.
...no?
There's several stories, one of which being the Orphans.
A man adopts Five orphans to keep them safe, put them in one place. He left to buy food and returned to find a burglar broke in and killed all five of them.
Affording only one coffin, he stitched them together to make one, and buried the kids.
NONE of this relates to Afton's history aside from "5 children dead, a man"
Then what about he Five Keys story?
The Five Kittens?
>Security Breach and Princess Quest 1 heavily imply that the Wlliam Afton in the games hasn't been the evil bunny mastermind controlling everything. He is also a victim of getting possessed by the mysterious and evil force lurking inside Springtrap's body.
?????what
He isnt *in* springtrap's body, when we see him in FNAF 6, he's in *an entirely different suit*, this is not a redesign.
From the books and 4, we get the idea he was a piece of shit before he started killing.
He's pitting his Youngest Son against his Eldest via his Youngest's favorite toy.
(He Hates you.)
(He knows you Hate it here.)
(He locked you in your room again.)
He's outright slapped his daughter for interrupting his work.
We know he DID, at one point, torment Michael with animatronics, possibly even outright Nightmares.
Assuming the runaway is Michael in MM, William's outright slamming on the door and screaming at him, and this is a reoccurring deal...
"the mysterious and evil force lurking inside Springtrap's body" is *straight up William Afton.*
There IS a thing possessing Afton's Body/Springtrap, that's William himself.
Much like Michael possessed his OWN body...
And the MCI kids the withereds, Funtimes, and Ennard.
@@higueraft571 My God. Stop using the goddamn Books to characterize William, Henry, and Charlie. They're practically completely different characters in the games. Game William is overprotective of his kids and cheated life and death for them. He's a lot more like book Henry in how over obsessive they can be about their children. In comparison, Game Henry is physically abusive to William's creations and his own children (Charlie) by restraining them with "control shocks".
Book Henry also hated the idea of tying himself to corruptive business practices while Game Henry took the wheel and blamed everyone, except himself, for the shit going on.
We already have Golden Freddy being a clear example of an animatronic containing multiple souls into one package. We have seen what Springtrap looks like within his circuits, in Princess Quest. He is a literal amalgamation of souls that controls various victims to do its bidding. Considering that bringing the dead back to life takes a ton of love effort for Book Henry, it's questionable for why would William Afton kill his son when he did everything to bring him back. Silly Willy is honestly not the monster behind everything. What controls him is.
@@justice8718 Why does William pit his son against his other son.
Why is he literally slamming on the door and screaming at his children.
Why did he send Michael into a LITERAL deathtrap.
Why does Michael know about the FNAF 4s.
>Game William is overprotective of his kids and cheated life and death for them.
The only case of this is Elizabeth in Sister Location. He tells her not to interact with Baby, and if the Encyclopedia is to be trusted... he VERY much didnt want her to die. (which you dont even really need that for, it simply reinforces that idea)
Yet it doesnt mean he *wont* abuse her, simply he valued her life.
>He's a lot more like book Henry in how over obsessive they can be about their children.
Yet he doesnt treat Elizabeth like a precious child, or Michael, or CC. He uses them like Tools.
Michael is sent to free Elizabeth from the bunker.
CC is pitted against his older brother.
Elizabeth he attempts to shape in his own image. The "Golden Child".
Book Henry LASERFOCUSES on Charlie, at the expense of his family. He completely breaks down and goes off the deep end, pouring all his love, agony, tears, and so on into an Ella doll. Then creates 4 (or 5) versions of "Charlie" so she can have a life, realizing how far he's fallen and killing himself soon after.
(Most likely realizing and accepting that Charlie, his Daughter, is straight up dead, he made a mimicry of her that's just another person.)
Also, it's important to note:
AGAIN the only one we know Afton may have possibly "cheated life and death for" is Elizabeth, and that wasnt intentional.
>Book Henry also hated the idea of tying himself to corruptive business practices while Game Henry took the wheel and blamed everyone, except himself, for the shit going on.
And... how are they separate?
Henry has "separated" himself from Corruptive Business Practices
He "was not at fault" for what William did, aside from "letting that wound fester", he showed up at the last minute to try and "fix" everything (with a poorly thought out plan).
I'm REALLY curious how you'd say his practices are corrupt, he's creating a convincing Pizzeria to draw everyone back and trap them.
If anything, if you point towards the Lawsuits and killing of people who know too much, that's another instance of his laser-focus.
"Achieve the goal, at the expense of all else".
Bring Charlie Back.
End It All.
>We already have Golden Freddy being a clear example of an animatronic containing multiple souls into one package.
Yes, and as someone else has theorized... CC possessed the Endo, while TOYSNHK possessed the Shell.
>We have seen what Springtrap looks like within his circuits, in Princess Quest.
In Help Wanted you mean, Glitchtrap.
Using the books again, which is again a clear sign when searching in the games too...
The Dead Forget.
While it could simply be a case of "This is the REAL me now" (again supported by the books)...
We know the Dead, over time, forget parts of their past Life.
To the point they forget they're anything more than the Animatronics, to the point they forget their "friend" is their own killer.
A Boy being crammed into a female Animatronic (eg Chica) would begin to refer to theirself as "She", not "He". And if his name were "John", he'd begin calling himself "Chica."
William Afton was stuck in that suit for *30* years in a damp, dark room. Trapped there in an Eternal Torment caused by Vengeful Spirits.
>He is a literal amalgamation of souls that controls various victims to do its bidding.
And your only evidence is via the Glitch in Security Breach.
If i remember right, it's been SHOWN that it's possible to be "Split" into versions of the same person.
The Funtimes are a prime example of this, several MCI souls blended together then split among several animatronics, that had the urge to become One again.
>Considering that bringing the dead back to life takes a ton of love effort for Book Henry
Love isnt what animated ""Charlie""
It certainly played a part in giving her a full Soul of sorts, but THE key part to every possession is Agony.
Possibly with a connection/"cable" of Agony, other emotions can survive the transfer, or simply just Agony alone in some instances.
But Agony is critical to every Posession.
Charlie was left outside in the rain, then murdered, stabbed likely, possibly even still alive (barely) as the Puppet reached her?
The MCI kids were likely crammed into the suits and died in the process, similarly to the player in FNAF 1 if they lost.
TOYSNHK is likely a victim who was Springlocked, much like Afton, resulting in the MUCH stronger hate towards him.
Afton was Springlocked, as well.
If CC did possess an animatronic, according to the Logbook, then their Agony would be the immediate horror of being shoved in Fredbear's mouth, and being chomped down on.
Henry's Agony was the crushing loss of his daughter, a loss that broke him mentally.
We know Molten Freddy is comprised of at LEAST 5 whole souls as of FNAF 6, or "Remnant".
Agony, a form of Dark Remnant, is part of a whole Soul/Remnant, and likely the other half given to Charlie (Love or such?) was Light Remnant.
>it's questionable for why would William Afton kill his son when he did everything to bring him back.
William, as far as we've seen, has NOT "brought back" the CC.
William, as far as we've seen, has never brought back Michael. The CLOSEST point is when Ennard left his body, with *Baby* saying "You wont die".
He has never brought back any of his children, Afton has only sent Michael off to (very likely) die intentionally.
>Silly Willy is honestly not the monster behind everything. What controls him is.
He's still a monster before the Springlocking, *unless you're saying he was "possessed" before he ever died*
And the key question is: *What the fuck possesses him then?*
It cant be Springlock, there's *Nothing* in him prior to his death, and there's been no killings with the suit after his death.
THE closest you could come is, MAYBE, just "Oh the other suit he hopped into was mega haunted (why?) or he killed some kids or something and that possessed him", and that's both incredibly stupid and unsatisfying.
And, THEN, why is it Purple. Purple is the Aftons' thing.
Why wouldnt this "Other" be literally any other shade, to indicate it's an "Other"?
With Ruin Chica I'd like to point out the massive missing section on her head seems to line up with a major crack line on Shattered Chica. Same thing with how her right side of her torso seems smashed. It looks like the damage lines up to me.
The main problem i have with this theory is that it would mean Gregory being controlled by William would be completely pointless and add nothing to the story, he just eventually gets unpossessed for unexplained reason and is good now and now William wants another victim to take over, it just kinda makes it feel like Gregory's possession wouldnt be explored enough, i feel like it'd probably be more interesting especially with the gregory being taken over by william concept if the hidden mastermind eyes would be possessed Gregory actually one way or another, and itd also make the "hidden eyes being a hidden mastermind" make more sense cause the eyes being hidden doesnt really make sense cause the player already knows he exist so what would the point be in teasing him there if its so obvious that its him
"It just makes too much sense"
Bold words coming from a fnaf theory creator.
Fair point 😅
What we need for the DLC Ruin are a great ending for both gregory, the glamrocks and Vanessa/Vanny, an ending which makes Afton gone for good then is replace by other antagonists like Eleanor, Ralpho the Bunny, Blackbird and others.
...just a note, all three of those characters arent a thing in the Game Timeline.
And honestly i dont wanna see them either
I agree, we need an ending that stops William for good. A straight up Gregory rescue is fine as long as ruin gives the honor of stopping William Afton for the final time.
My favorite example of chekovs gun is "HEY WAIT! go back and look at that fern..."
🤣🤣🤣
I've uncovered evidence which I've been trying to get to Rye's attention in his Discord server that points to another possibility for the placement of Ruin in the timeline - it could, in fact, be a PREQUEL. I've found evidence that the Pizzaplex was ruined and evacuated in the past, then partially, and only partially, rebuilt and reopened. If the evidence from the books does translate to the games this time about GGY, AND Ruin is a trap, then GGY COULD be Gregory, not yet released from the control of Glitchtrap luring Ruin Girl into the Pizzaplex shortly after this earlier ruin of the building, while it's till closed and hasn't yet been repaired enough to reopen.
We see evidence Ruin Girl WAS in the Pizzaplex at some point in the past, in the form of the shrine to Chica, and in that shrine, are the same kind of shoes as we see Ruin Girl wearing in the poster. But we see no sign she's still there nor that she's alive. She could be still there, but in a part we can't access, gone, dead, or escaped, we have no way of knowing.
Where IS said evidence you mentioned?
@@higueraft571 The biggest bulk of it exists in the area where the Chica boss battle is. The area mistakenly all lumped together as "the sewers". I have footage I recorded that shows it's actually mostly the caved in ruins of the underground parking. A very tiny portion is legitimately sewers, but only a tiny part. The rest is not actually garbage from the Pizzaplex, but a mix of broken concrete, car parts, and other construction materials. All set in the remains of huge, rectangular rooms, the more intact of which, have yellow lines marking out parking stalls, with fences and walls added later blocking off caved in rubble.
The rest is areas of the B1 and B2 floors, particularly in the eastern side, which would be the Utility Tunnel access to Monty Golf and the Daycare area. There's areas of indents in walls, where in the early development maps, showed hallways going through to the East side, or doors you can't open marked "out of order" also going to the same side you can't access.
The rest is Freddy's voice line in Roxy Raceway about guests tending to leave things behind in emergencies, implying an evacuation at some point in the past, and the duffel note complaining about the place reopening and about something that happened to a group of kids that "everyone knows about". Almost nobody would know about anything ancient like the MCI as that would be over 50 years ago from the time when SB takes place, so it has to be something big, newsworthy and recent - like something doing major damage, enough to cave in major sections of the Pizzaplex, forcing an evacuation and closure for structural repairs, followed by a reopening, with something tragic happening to many kids during the emergency.
(I'd share links to my video footage and still shots but RUclips doesn't like that anymore) If you're on Ryetoast's discord, you can find all this in the thread FEWOC in the theory crafting forum channel. I'm Seriously Unserious there.
I’ve considered Ruin a sequel, but now I don’t know if it’s a prequel to the game events. The balloon characters seem like they come from the balloon world arcade game. 🤷♀️ maybe like Vanessa, Gregory’s consciousness is trapped in one of arcade machines and needs the girl’s help to free himself.
hey man, just finished watching your older videos and damnnn, you've come so far! We love to see it
Thanks so much!
Something to think about is before you go in the elevator it looks unstable and it’s the only was down he could be stuck down there if the elevator broke which has him still stuck Afton and canny alive and funnies pizza plex
Just thought of something, if Gregory does have Glitchtrap in him maybe that's what Freddy saw in Gregory when he got Roxxy's eyes.
The two eyes are most likely moondrop and the blob. Vanny’s eyes do glow red but are bigger compared to the one on the teaser and Burntraps eyes glow purple. The reason I think moon is one of them is because he has glowing red eyes and if the pizziaplex is ruined then it will most likely be dark which is seen in the poster. The glam rocks also cannot be one of the eyes so it just leaves the blob.
In the Afton ending, we don't actually see Gregory and Glamrock Freddy escape, just running trying to avoid the falling rubble. They could easily have been trapped by rubble. And Burntrap... Well, he always come back. Blob isn't going to kill him however hard it tries.
7:14 to 7:18 that absolutely killed me XD. Also! Saw the livestream talkback with you and the gang the other day! Congratulations Rye! :)
I'm going to say Ruin[DLC] is an "Alternate Timeline" that has nothing to do with the main story other then it being after one of the "Bad endings".
Specifically either "The Fire escape one" or "The Shattered Freddy ending", both of which is where "Vanny dies" and "Glamrock Freddy stops working".
the reason why is 2 fold
1: Afton would still be around even and have a body, if Vanny's gone and its clear he wants "Gregory" NOT "Vanny".
Vanny is clearly just a pawn and Gregory is his TRUE APPRENTACE.
and
2: it gets rid of Glamrock Freddy/Michael meaning as a kid you ARE FAR LESS SAFE.
There is no hiding in Freddy this time.
you will need to 'run" or "use the environment to your advantage".
Much like how you could "hide in baby strollers" and "lockers" in the main game they will be WAY more usable now.
also I think we WILL get Freddy/Michael back BUT only right at the end of the journey to save Gregory as a way of reminding him of good time with Freddy/Mike, and to snap him out of Afton's control.
just my thoughts though.
and when it comes out you can come back here and tell me how wrong I was, or don't.
I don't really care tbh I'm just here to waste my time.
@8:12 the eyes are the endos
omg -I'm going to bash my head in one day from dumbness- [im joking fyi], they literally said they were take inspiration from the endo section.
Reminder: Even in the Afton Ending, afton is STILL alive.
I got so confused when you randomly started talking about a Baobab tree 😂
It's.... A lot.....
@@RyeToast I hope I'm ready for this..
I don't know why people are saying burntrap will merge with blob yes it's mentioned in books but it doesn't necessarily happen in games
Gregory never escaped the pizzaplex on the Afton ending... The Elevator says it, once you go down you can't go back up. So he should be stuck down there, right?
Tbh there’s some parts in security breach that made me shit myself and it’s the weeping angel endos and and the destroyed glamrock chica part where u have to hide from her and the the Roxanne part was adrenaline pumping that it really.
Liking these videos 😁
I'm glad! Thank you
Coming back to theories from 5before Ruin after the Scott interview 2.0 now makes me realize just how bad the Burntrap ending, and him being a final boss screwed us over in creating theories. It now makes a lot of sense that the Princess Quest ending was made to be the actually canon ending through Ruin, and not the Burntrap ending.
Ngl, it's been a second, but I don't remember Gregory actually escaping the Pizzaplex in the Afton ending, just him and Freddy escaping Burntrap
I am so happy seeing someone else talking about this possibility.
When I saw the poster, I thought it was weird how synthetic, fake, Gregory's "Help me" screen was
I mean, if you're asking for help, you're not gonna say it with the same face you would say "I don't care".
He's very expressive on the other images, but the one that is asking for help is sooooo fake-looking
So I immediately thought this was just a trap. They have footage of a child, and also possibly recording of him asking for help and such, so it would be very easy and reasonable to use that to get more children on the now ruined building
I really hope this DLC is very good and can capture well the feeling of an abandoned, full of broken killing robots, dark and gloomy giant building. 'cause that would be just incredible
I appreciate the atmosphere and the rush of running away from animatronics, but the fact that all of these animatronics literally teleport to your location feels cheap. It's just a cheap way to capture you for the lack of a complex A.i.
The freddy head on the ground looks like the head from withered golden freddy
9:09 My guess (and this is a longshot) is, she is Gregory's friend and since she knows he went into Pizzaplex and hasn't returned and she hasn't heard from him in a couple of days, she goes investigating. When she enters, she sees some sort of a footage with Gregory in the PIzzaplex, maybe even begging "help me", so she searches for him and as she gets close to "finding" him, but she gets jumped by Vanny/Afton and she realises Gregory was ... the whole time (insert ending - either he is dead, corrupted beyond salvation, luring other children inside, etc.). Eventually she defeats Vanny/Afton and evacuates immediately.
Honestly, I do think the theory about the girl on the DLC poster is Amelia, and about Chekov's gun.
What I'm basing it off of,
So in the fazbear frights series, Book 3 (1:35 am) the last mini-story is titled "the new kid"
⚠️ Spoiler ahead for the people who haven't read it btw!
So these kids called Devon mick and Kelsey
Go explore this abandoned Freddy Pizzarea,
But whilst exploring the abandoned Pizzarea
One thing stood out whilst using Chekov's gun.
quote from the book: (page 207)
"Whilst they were in the bathroom, Devon was pretty sure that he heard
Something slithering through the walls. He didn't say anything but how the other boys' faces paled, he knew they heard it too."
There were other things mentioned in the book that were quite unnecessary but they had a reason(that i know of) this one didn't.
This is inspired by MatPats theory of it being the "Blob"
But just wanted to point it out!
So she might aswell be Amelia!
(Sorry if my grammar is off!)
Thank you for reading! :DD
Btw I love the videos! And the theory's keep up the good work!
The fang theory always gets harder
Fnaf
True, very true
The only thing I hate more than the name Blobby Williams is how perfect it is
blob-william always comes back! I can't wait to see what's going on, good video :)
Thank you!
I think it’s weird nobody has noticed the things that resemble vanny’s bunny ears above the FNAF logo
for the bright and faded eyes, though your arguement with vanny and afton made sense, it could still be monty and roxy because monty wears glasses, which make the light faded coming from his eyes, it actually might just be that and were over thinking it, who knows..
My guess for what's dripping from Chica's mouth in the title drop poster: Has to be leftovers, either some pizza ingredients, pre-made full pizzas, or pre-made "Chica's Chowda" meals.
My cool theory is that Glitchtrap swapped minds with Gregory completely at the end, and what was actually grabbed and pulled into the blob was Gregory's AI/mind now in the body of Burntrap. That's why he was reaching out and trying to get to them, and then was grabbed by the Blob (who is also affected by the virus).
that's why it says "HELP ME_" in similar font to the IT'S ME stuff.
>Comes out sometime this year.
>Me, looking at SB's original release window.
I think that, simply put, the electronic screen showing Gregory asking for help is at the start of the game ( FNAF: SB ). There is a note in a security office in the main entrance ( the right one from the view of entering the Pizzaplex ) that is Vanessa, not understanding why a cop just called that he had received a call from the Pizzaplex asking for help. However she had responded to the police that she was the only one there. SO I think that the help me message was either to ask help to the cop if he enters the Pizzaplex, or to ask help to somebody else that could possibly be in the Pizzaplex. Also, the cameras are in black and white, oppositely to the cameras we can access on the Fazwatch, which are what security cameras see. I don't know why, in all seriousness, are the cameras different...
Here’s what I think:
1. The Blob is the remains of Molten Freddy, I don’t think anyone died in the Fnaf 6 ending not even Michael, fnaf has its ways of bringing random characters into the series out of nowhere and it’s even better at bringing things back. It was even stated in UCN by one of the death lines if I remember correctly one of the animatronics state that they’ll always be here no matter how many times you burn them.
2. Afton’s Motives behind killing children.. after Evan’s death or the crying child’s I believe Afton went down into a spiral of Insanity, William did promise his son he’d put him back together. And was probably desperate if I’d imagine so he needed ways to revive Evan whether that meant as a machine or an actual Human being. He probably started studying demonic and satanic kinda stuff and grew into discovering stuff like “remnant”.
If you think about it.. he ran a children’s restaurant and killing adults would be to “risky” for him. So he probably decided children were a better idea?
I mean children are more gullible and it would be easier to hide their bodies. Which could also be why he goes after Gregory, children are just simply exploitable.
3. What is Security Breach?
I believe security breach is just saying “here we go again”.
Take a second to think about this
Remember the message you get from one the bags saying something about “everybody remembers what happened to those kids.” it’s probably the question we should be asking as well, the place wouldn’t be reopened by someone like Henry or people who worked in the original Freddy’s locations because that’s just common sense, everyone really does remember. a follow up question would be “Who Cares?”; people who aren’t associated with the actual places or people who never knew would only go there knowing what happened to those kids while not really knowing at all. Just like in the Fnaf 3 we hear the phone guy, he was trying to open an establishment based on scaring people with the old Freddy stuffs. Just like Fnaf VR.
Security Breach is probably someone dumb like him who has a lot of money; giving afton his chance to strike back.
4. Where is Cassidy?
All I’m going to say is Princess Quest arcade machines.
It’s very clear to me that either cassidy is in the machines somehow being contained. Or the games simply give us a clue as to where she might’ve went.
5. What about Michael and Elizabeth?
It’s very possible they survived too, I mean I don’t think they are ready to reintroduce the other characters or tell us where they went off to.
I hope this is useful information and insight to you RyeToast.
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Good points
Crackpot Hypothesis: This is a second pizzaplex located in Massachusetts, still connected to the Fazbear Entertainment network.
There's evidence in TFTP that there is more than one Pizzaplex, as the location described in "Pressure" from 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘯𝘪𝘱𝘩𝘰𝘣𝘪𝘢 doesn't align with the description of the Pizzaplex in game or the Pizzaplex that's visited in "Cleithrophobia".
The Afton Virus infected the whole Fazbear Entertainment Network, most of the pizzaplex locations fell to ruin after the virus wreaked havoc, and Gregory is stuck in the Network (maybe with Vanessa?).
That makes sense afton always comes back and sun probably didn’t get infected bc he was maybe in control when the virus came out but moon was deactivated so it took him over and the rest are ai except from Freddy bc we all probably agree micheal afton is Freddy bc Micheal burned in the pizzaria sim establishment and his should probably roamed until he could go to something and that was probably Freddy and he seemed to forget everything until they went into pizzaria sim and he said “I am not me”. And sun and moon would have good virus resistance bc they will be close to kids and they will need to stay virus clean or else it will be a slaughter
Blobby William? That's a Name I haven't heard in a long time. Wonder if he's still a Singer.
Dude... I was hella skeptical at first, but that theory smoothie might just be THE next sliced bread!
With Gregory mirroring the crying child and Amelia specifically called out to be playing arcade games - much like we saw Suzie do just before she got killed - AND with what the books have been talking about with the whole Afton Amalgamation I think we're prepping to go on an adventure to where it all started. Since the daycare room featured a ballpit it even works to have the "time traveling ball pit" present in the new DLC. Do I think it actually time travels? No. But I do think if they implement it, that it'll be our device to travel into these memories in order to quell the anger inside the blob. With Charlie also present in the pizzaplex somewhere (seeing as nightmarionne is represented everywhere and considering the fact that the post-it note room is highly theorised to have had her in it - at least for a while) that represents the three earliest deaths in the timeline, and most likely the three that meant the most to Afton as it helped shape him and his motives to kill in the first place. CC died, which made him turn on his own son and his former business partner, and it also led to him dicing Charlie outside the pizzeria. But I don't think his anger stopped there, seeing as Afton decided to kill Suzie and 4 other kids in what became known as the MCI.
What I love most about this theory on the DLC, is Amelia's motivation for answering the SOS call. Because that makes so much fucking sense for a little kid. It is an AMAZING little kid motive. If I could have found some secret way at age 9 to beat my older brothers high scores in shit, know for a fact I would have jumped at the chance.
So I just had a thought and I don't know if anyone has ever suggested this, but here goes: Also, talks on the GGY spoiler up ahead:
Given that the glitchtrap virus makes people see glitchtrap, what if that the virus inside of Gregory was making him see another Vanny instead of Glitchtrap. When Freddy gets the eyes, he could've been infected with the virus at this point and that's when he could see the same Vanny that Gregory sees. In the fire ending, Freddy could've been completely taken over by the virus and that's why he just randomly lights fire to the place. This could explain the two Vanny ending. TLDR: There's one real Vanny, but since GGY is infected, he sees a second Vanny in place of Glitchtrap.
Also a reason for the eyes, Roxy’s eyes are ripped out and you can see the lights easier, but Monty have eyes, so they’re faint
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i think there’s something important with Amelia playing Fruity Maze specifically. it kinda goes along with the whole Chekvoz’s Gun thing. they mention Amelia is playing Fruity Maze and then, bam, she is related to Susie, or she dies just like Susie, or Glamrock Chica laid an egg and Amelia hatched from it or some shit
Also Chica being the only animatronic visible and the Chica Chowda is more “this girl has some connection to Chica” evidence
basically Chica is gonna be really important in Ruin i think
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I know this may be restating the obvious, but I think its interesting how Amelia is a girl who regularly plays Fruity Maze, and the only animatronic fully visible on the poster is a variant of Chica. They’re probably gonna do something related to Susie.
Maybe susie is the dlc girls ancestor
the thing I came up with/believe is that based on the GGY story and gregory being patient 46 my theory is that Gregory, is luring Amelia to the ruins of the pizza plex to kill her and continue aftons legacy. But I know its like yeah he lost his memories after glitchtrap leaves him but Id like to think that glitchtrap will keep trying to possess gregory and he must fight him but doesn't.
Ok, I count *three* big Chica references: she's visible in the poster, the weird Chowder teaser, and the fact Amelia is playing Fruity Maze: the same game Susie was playing just before her murder.
Just as there are theories about other old characters being put back into human-looking forms, could this be a new body for Susie that has forgotten her previous experiences? Is this why GR Chica is drawn to her? Maybe the game broke for her because it contained something that spoke to her in the same way that Princess Quest does to others? I don't know if I can exactly call this a prediction, but I'm curious to see if our favourite clucker will finally get time in the spotlight. Maybe we'll even learn about Chica's *original* restaurant! 🐔🐔🐔
I mean, when I saw multiple pairs of red eyes, my first thought was the Blob. The eyes in the masks of the Blob do glow red like that. Assuming that it’s grown larger and more powerful since the ending of Security Breach, that could be why the eyes look to be so far apart.
What if ruin is all in aftons head because notice how the girl is black and white while her shoes are purple and red. Purple (represents) afton and red (elizabeths hair color). So what if the girl on the ruin poster is the memory of Elizabeth. And Gregory is fighting afton with memories.
That would be wild
3:57 I'm glad that you didn't forget about Amelia,because I still believe AmeliaDLC,lol.
Idea: Amelia is Gregory's sister and when he goes missing she goes to find him. She gets to the destroyed Pizza Plex and has to fight glitch trap / burntrap to try to save herself from being taken over or to help Gregory. This all started because Gregory suggested they should visit the pizza plex and when they got home they realized he wasn't with them. So a few days later once the scene is clear Amelia goes back to find and save her brother. Either she finds and saves him or she is taken over by the virus.
This is just a Theory I doubt any of it will happen but it might be why she would go no clue though.
I think the Chica's Chowder picture was perhaps a poster for the movie as it takes place in an actual restaurant
Why I agree the girl could be Amelia. People often pay too much attention on what they believe to be a chekov's gun, but forget that red herrings exist
I don't know but the Help Me Screen looks totally sus for me. Gregory is showing so much emotions in the others and in this screen... he's just starring and there is no background. It really looks like a trap to lurk someone in.
9:49 I heard it said many times that Gregory didn't escape the Afton ending. How is he going to use an elevator to get back up when the whole place has crumbled that far? Plus gameplay wise the elevator can't even go back. He is trapped in the sinkhole.
7:32 Another reason to hesitate is that Roxy is blind by the end of the game
Id love if they make it so you need to spare Chica and leave the PizzaPlex at 6am as a way to kickstart an anti monty roxy thing with freddy and chica
I think the hideen red eyes are a very far stretch. even when brighten up they're barely visible. The hidden ''eyes'' could just be texturing on the shadows and at least for me the hidden ''eyes'' don't look that red.
Personally my bet is that Ruin is taking place inside of one of the Arcade cabinets and that the girl on the cover is the Digital version of Cassidy, just like glitchtrap is the digital version of Afton from when part of his suit was scanned this girl aka the girl from princess quest was scanned into the system when they found and scanned the golden Freddy suit.
It makes sense that there is now two versions of both of them you have the real ones that are down in the basement because whatever is left of Cassidy is controlling the blob with the overriding desired to not let go and not let Afton pass on or escape and of course there is afton stuck in that suit feeling everything that’s happened to him and still unable to pass on or escape, then there are the digital versions running around in the system and now Afton is more like a virus maybe able to replicate himself.
In the Afton Ending the Elevator that Gregory and Freddy used to get down is no longer working, right? So both of them would still be trapped in the Afton Ending.
Maybe the orange coloring on Chica is chowda, this is probably the Afton ending, the Shattered animatronics was in the FNaF 6 location when it was collapsing, and in the ending scene we do see fire, plus the eyes in the shadows isn’t vanny and burn trap, it’s likely the endos, they have shown the ability to crawl on walls in the beginning of Security Breach.
Oh dear...this will be something...Nice theory!
I think so too! Thank you!
I love the SpongeBob music from the games in the background
Ok weird theory for one of the ends of ruin:
After the afton virus goes away finally killing the physical form and digital form of afton and vanny gets released from him the fazbear entertainment team would rebuild the pizzaplex.
2:53 ok bro. I'll be sure to sh*t my pants the next jumpscare I see in the Ruin DLC.
I think you are forgetting that the elevator had one trip down in it so they didn't know if it could go back up
it could just be pizza, I mean Chica does have a thing for eatting
Very possible