Im a Christian that is in the Southern Baptist denomination, but everytime I hear Pastor Bob I feel pulled towards Dutch Reformed😂 but in all honesty what a great privilege to hear this man of God🙏
@@user-p7up8l4k Allah is NOT my Creator, or yours. And certainly not my Lord! Allah is hubal. (Baal) The demonic moon god of the pagans. I hope and pray you come out of it for your sake, while there's time! 😬🙏
Thank you Robert Geoffrey for the message you gave on governments here while God has set in place are only temporary and whether good or bad we as Christians have then job of serving under them and praying for them. At the moment I have been having great trouble finding little good and much bad in my current government in Canada and you message has given me hope for the future as I wait to be with my Lord and my God.
Godfrey is lucky that I have been listening to him long enough to hear him out, and patience is a good fruit to practice. With what is happening and how much we do have to protect the weak and vulnerable, especially our children, we live in a time where governments including our own have no honor to honor. If people did not understand or see before, the last 2 years and now should be a wakeup call. The only way I am surviving this corruption and evil is through the grace of God and His Word, Will and Way. Turn to God. Read the Bible daily. AND I am also immersing myself in genuine teachers and preachers like the Ligonier Ministries. Thank you for this conference.
Yes, do not listen to news, TV ant longer..sometimes follow certain people I trust to tell the truth yet lusten with 1/2an ear, as both sides can exaggerate. Thank God, for his sustaining hand and mercy..yet may we be compassionate and serve as God equips us, to love justice, mercy and to walk humbly with our God.
Wow great sermon! Such a fine line we as Christians must walk, between submission and obedience to our little g-governments, but not to worship and idolatry with them. The governments of today with their secular scientists remind me of Pharoah with his sorcerers in Moses' day. How much we look to them, for peace and safety, rather than to our LORD. Such harlots we have become. 😔 Oh Father, please forgive us. 💔
So … most of the negative comments I’ve seen so far have one thing in common … they don’t want to obey or honor the government as we have been instructed by God. Obviously, we are given limits to such honor and obedience in Acts 5:29 (where the government orders us to disobey God, we are instructed to obey God rather than men). But today’s so-called Christians in America seem to think that anytime the government tells them to do something they don’t want to do that it’s their God-given right to disobey and dishonor that government. That’s not Christianity. That’s just Right-Wing conservative politics dressed up as Christianity. But this sermon is neither silly nor basic. It simply reminds us that we need to obey and honor our God-ordained government, unless it orders you to disobey a specific command given to us in the New Testament. But it also reminds us that we worship God, not the state. And that our ultimate obedience is never ever to the government. This sermon walks the line between right-wing hate of government and left-wing worship of state power.
@Wyatt You might want to read Romans 13:1-7 and 1 Peter 2:13-17. Both passages say that our government and our rulers are ordained by God, and to obey them. Acts 5:29, however, tells us to disobey government if it tells us to disobey God. Thanks have a great day
I went from having wild fantastical visions and ideologies about building a human centric socioeconomic paradigm to been a closet BUT hardline statist in about 2 years!.
Watch the whole thing then before commenting maybe? It's really good i must say and truly digs at the core of how we are to interact with the state as Christians
@@christopherlloyd-roberts2205 i did. and no better fare, friend. the meaning of socialism he describes has changed drastically. The FED does own every corporation, it dictates their way and means. Control implies ownership. This is the new socialism. Control through submission.
Agreed. A hard preaching from the bible is one thing, but the putinbadishitler routine makes me wonder what is really so different about this stance than what we see from the godless media and apostate fake "churches."
@@meekthegreek1623 I think the case could be made that the activities promoted by the liberal west line up more with what we as Christians would call evil, immoral, and wicked than do the actions of Russia, which amont to invading another country for security reasons and to protect their own people living there who had been subject to attacks for eight years. I'm not naive enough to think any side in a geopolitical contest is all good or all bad, but the ideology of western liberal democracy is explicitly anti-christian whereas military actions against other countries is neutral. I don't need to know all the particulars to understand that all our enemies as Christians here in the western world hate and demonize Russia for the reasons they hate and demonize us: we are opposed to their program of spreading degeneracy worldwide for maximum profits.
Im a Christian that is in the Southern Baptist denomination, but everytime I hear Pastor Bob I feel pulled towards Dutch Reformed😂 but in all honesty what a great privilege to hear this man of God🙏
I think Dr. Godfrey is OPC not Dutch Reformed. He is very smart and wise from what I ve heard from him. I respect his teaching.
Be encouraged! There are Southern Baptists who continue to hold to the biblical faith.
@@user-p7up8l4k Allah is NOT my Creator, or yours.
And certainly not my Lord!
Allah is hubal. (Baal) The demonic moon god of the pagans.
I hope and pray you come out of it for your sake, while there's time! 😬🙏
Thank you Robert Geoffrey for the message you gave on governments here while God has set in place are only temporary and whether good or bad we as Christians have then job of serving under them and praying for them. At the moment I have been having great trouble finding little good and much bad in my current government in Canada and you message has given me hope for the future as I wait to be with my Lord and my God.
Godfrey is lucky that I have been listening to him long enough to hear him out, and patience is a good fruit to practice. With what is happening and how much we do have to protect the weak and vulnerable, especially our children, we live in a time where governments including our own have no honor to honor. If people did not understand or see before, the last 2 years and now should be a wakeup call. The only way I am surviving this corruption and evil is through the grace of God and His Word, Will and Way. Turn to God. Read the Bible daily. AND I am also immersing myself in genuine teachers and preachers like the Ligonier Ministries. Thank you for this conference.
Yes, do not listen to news, TV ant longer..sometimes follow certain people I trust to tell the truth yet lusten with 1/2an ear, as both sides can exaggerate. Thank God, for his sustaining hand and mercy..yet may we be compassionate and serve as God equips us, to love justice, mercy and to walk humbly with our God.
Hide in your closet and do nothing while the wicked take over?
Excellent teaching. What a blessing to hear this exhortation at such a time as this. Thank you very much. I’m thankful for Ligonier ministries. 🙏🏼
I love the words and wisdom That Dr Bob draws from the Bible. Thanks, and may God Bless you.
Wow great sermon!
Such a fine line we as Christians must walk, between submission and obedience to our little g-governments, but not to worship and idolatry with them.
The governments of today with their secular scientists remind me of Pharoah with his sorcerers in Moses' day. How much we look to them, for peace and safety, rather than to our LORD.
Such harlots we have become. 😔 Oh Father, please forgive us. 💔
Excellent! Thank you for your words spoken on the Truth
All glory, laud, and honor to you, our government!
....um...no.
So … most of the negative comments I’ve seen so far have one thing in common … they don’t want to obey or honor the government as we have been instructed by God. Obviously, we are given limits to such honor and obedience in Acts 5:29 (where the government orders us to disobey God, we are instructed to obey God rather than men). But today’s so-called Christians in America seem to think that anytime the government tells them to do something they don’t want to do that it’s their God-given right to disobey and dishonor that government. That’s not Christianity. That’s just Right-Wing conservative politics dressed up as Christianity. But this sermon is neither silly nor basic. It simply reminds us that we need to obey and honor our God-ordained government, unless it orders you to disobey a specific command given to us in the New Testament. But it also reminds us that we worship God, not the state. And that our ultimate obedience is never ever to the government. This sermon walks the line between right-wing hate of government and left-wing worship of state power.
@Wyatt You might want to read Romans 13:1-7 and 1 Peter 2:13-17. Both passages say that our government and our rulers are ordained by God, and to obey them. Acts 5:29, however, tells us to disobey government if it tells us to disobey God. Thanks have a great day
So thankful for these messages!
Rushdoony had the best take on this question
AMEN!!! AMEN!!! AMEN!!!
Amen...
America keep strong; no society ruination by puglitical disaster. God help U.S.
I went from having wild fantastical visions and ideologies about building a human centric socioeconomic paradigm to been a closet BUT hardline statist in about 2 years!.
Search for "Reformed anarchism" and for "Presbycast Magistrates".
HOBBES IS RIGHT MY BOYS
1 Samuel 8:7
yah ruuuuffffff take. im only 14 min in and so far this is devoid of context. would be great for 6-8th grade. not for men.
Watch the whole thing then before commenting maybe? It's really good i must say and truly digs at the core of how we are to interact with the state as Christians
@@christopherlloyd-roberts2205 i did. and no better fare, friend. the meaning of socialism he describes has changed drastically. The FED does own every corporation, it dictates their way and means. Control implies ownership. This is the new socialism. Control through submission.
Why bring religion into the statist debate ffs
Does the Bible not condone the concept, structure and office, but not necessarily the person who holds the position. E.g. "that old fox".
This is a brutally basic and silly take on these things.
Agreed. A hard preaching from the bible is one thing, but the putinbadishitler routine makes me wonder what is really so different about this stance than what we see from the godless media and apostate fake "churches."
@@Arkeo36 what would you advocate instead?
@@meekthegreek1623 I think the case could be made that the activities promoted by the liberal west line up more with what we as Christians would call evil, immoral, and wicked than do the actions of Russia, which amont to invading another country for security reasons and to protect their own people living there who had been subject to attacks for eight years. I'm not naive enough to think any side in a geopolitical contest is all good or all bad, but the ideology of western liberal democracy is explicitly anti-christian whereas military actions against other countries is neutral. I don't need to know all the particulars to understand that all our enemies as Christians here in the western world hate and demonize Russia for the reasons they hate and demonize us: we are opposed to their program of spreading degeneracy worldwide for maximum profits.
Gotta love how YT hides some comments, making the thread impossible to follow.