Surviving torture in the Hanoi Hilton
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- Опубликовано: 29 апр 2023
- During the Vietnam War, American POWs were systematically tortured at a prison camp they sarcastically dubbed the "Hanoi Hilton." Now, salvaged remnants of the prison have been reconstructed as part of an exhibit at the American Heritage Museum in Massachusetts. CBS News national security correspondent David Martin talks with former prisoners who recount what it took to survive.
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Unimaginable ......7 -8 yrs .....what strength ....truly heros and deserve the highest tribute our country can give them (still wiping tears).
These fools aren't "heros." Trump said he only likes the ones who weren't captured lol.
Yeah,kinda choked me up when the guy still remembered how to tap out his name in Morse code on the wall.
they killed thousands of noncombatants in an unjust imperialist war and deserved to suffer
Our country cares for these men. The government does not.
The Vietnamese soldiers 🇻🇳 who defended their country and families from the invaders are the HEROES and deserve the highest honor and respect 🫡
It pains me to hear the hero saying they "broke."
None of those guys broke, they survived.
The country and our citizens owe these men a debt that can never be repaid. Bless each and every one of them, especially those that paid the ultimate price 😔🇺🇸
But, why? The U.S. started this war, what was the point besides capitalism and corporate profits? Is that something to base your bedrock on? Would jesus invade other countries?
@@madalion1how about they are all heros because its not like any of the soldiers wanted to start a huge war and die.
They forgot to mention a man Named (Doug Hegdahl) aka “The Incredibly Stupid One” he’s the one who fooled the guards and Memorized Every Prisoners Name to tell the U.S. Government
My grandpa is a Vietnam war veteran. He is a proud marine. He wasn’t a POW but he did get shot in combat and has a Purple Heart. Thank you to all the veterans for their service and sacrifice.
Was with a mother of a navy polite shot down in June 1968 his co-polite survived and was a prisoner. This was the day they were released. Thank you for your service!
they should have put the rat to sleep.
Wtf theyre the ones invading other countries
Pilot*?
I lost a lot of close friends to that awful war! The ones that did return home had dreams of horror. Wish America would have welcomed them home like they have with other wars! Instead the survivors of the war felt ashamed. So thankful for this video! Wish it would have come sooner.
They should be ashamed.
@@lukeschmidt An asinine statement. The politicians that got us into that war should be ashamed, not our soldiers. Worse, one-third of all young men forced to fight in Vietnam were drafted into service, they had no choice.
@@fl3522 The politicians should be ashamed. Why would the soldiers? A lot of them were there against their will.
God bless those prisoners. Thank you for your incredible service to this country, and for your unbelievable sacrifices.
@Lizzie Buck what does that even mean ?
@Lizzie Buck
He’s disgusting and doesn’t knows what serving others is being someone that had everything handed to him via daddy’s money
But, why? The U.S. started this war, what was the point besides capitalism and corporate profits? Is that something to base your bedrock on? Would jesus invade other countries?
Humans can be so cruel to each other, I truly pray and hope we can all live in a peaceful world and stay in our own lanes! ❤ thank you for this story.
I have an ORIGINAL signed, hardcover copy of Commander McGrath's book with illustrations whicj my dad purchased at the PX, Charleston Navy base in 1973. I get it out and read it, occasionally. We salute you, Navy driver.
Absolutely horrifying. The strength one would need to survive years in that prison is unimaginable to me.
Every time you see Trump remember what he said about John McCain:
“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”
McCain, a former Navy pilot, spent roughly five-and-half years in a notorious North Vietnamese prison known as the “Hanoi Hilton,” where he was repeatedly tortured. He spent two of those years in solitary confinement.”
That’s how Trump truly feels about these incredible heroes.
Trump was referring to how McCain turned traitor in his old age and voted with the liberal Democrats to squash everything good that Trump did for America. McCain got his feelings hurt and took out his childish revenge by screwing Trump in every way he could. McCain was a hero in his Vietnam days, but there's no such thing as once a hero always a hero.
Well Trump is a trashy human, so no surprise he said this.
The dumbest thing Trump ever said
This alone is reason enough for me NEVER to vote for Trump. What he said was despicable!
As much as I respect those who survived he has a point about taking leadership from someone who was never captured or at least escaped. The point of reference being that when held in captivity for that long, everyone breaks. There was no one at Hanoi to my knowledge who didn’t break. So in a sense it’s contradictory for someone who is forced into treason to become president. I respect POW’s but I would never see them as fit for office. The best they can do is teach SERE’s and pass on whatever they learned. But being put into positions of power afterwards would forever remain questionable.
Jeremiah Denton was a national treasure. To endure the pain and suffering at the Hilton for years, and upon release say that he and his fellow-soldiers merely "faced difficult circumstances in the service of our country," shows he wanted the country to see their strength and resolve.
I remember when they came home some broken, some relieved, some just sad and frightened.
Some of them came home on my tenth birthday 🎂 in January 73 and I remember seeing one getting off the plane and kissing the ground and crying. It still moves me to this day.
They survived torture for 8 years. We threw a fit over quarantine for 1 year.
both illegal and unethical
@@LM-lr5dh Nah.
I’d like to see the dumpster spend one day in the Hanoi Hilton. Heel spurs and all. 😢
or Jane Fonda
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I disagree! We didn’t belong in Vietnam just like we didn’t belong in Iraq (Bush #2). I just feel for the poor souls who had to endure that. Protesting the war did not disrespect our Vets, the poor treatment we gave them when they got home just like today is what disrespects them. Thank you for your service!
2:04 He's smiling, but this is _such_ a haunting comment
I guess he's smiling because not only is he glad that he survived the ordeal but he's glad to share this with future generations about his experiences
I served in naval aviation transport during the vietnam war.
I have heard more than a few combat veterans say we were fighting on the wrong side.
A lot of corruption and suppression of personal freedom in south vietnam.
I have also heard why north vietnam considered our downed pilots as war criminals (from their perspective)
America never declared war on north vietnam.
North vietnam never bombed Pearl Harbor or destroy the World Trade Center.
Thus, they were not obligated under the Geneva rules to consider our prisoners as actual POW’s.
I’m not sure if I agree with their perspective and I hate how they tortured our airmen.
But it elicits looking at their perspective.
Oh! A rare voice of reason.
The US has been involved in more than a few illegitimate wars in the last 100 years. And it's always the young men who paid the price for empire.
Hero’s. Incredible Men.
The Vietnamese soldiers 🇻🇳 who defended their country and families from the invaders are the HEROES and deserve the highest honor and respect 🫡
@@madalion1copy paste
@@youraverageconsumeableitem2038 cope harder
It’s crazy that Donald trump and maga think these people are losers. These are the true patriots that sacrificed beyond our comprehension, for our liberty. Bless you all!
RIP John McCain
They are part of why the military is now all volunteers.
Amen. Well said.
It's crazier that so many people voted for trump after he said those things.
My draft dodger father said that.
I voted for McCain with respect and admiration and love.
So proud of every one of them! Thanks for serving, gentlemen!
"Freedom is purchased with the blood, sweat and tears of those who serve." 💜🇺🇸🙏🏾🕊️
As we speak, Vietnam is a successful communist country.
Amazing how they're able to recall their hardship without tears and a smile on their face. These men must've went through a lot
Thank you for your service. Words are not enough
They don’t make men like this anymore.God bless them.🙏
...well i think a lot of American vets of "war on terror" wars would disagree but yes, these guys were the best men this country ever produced.
@@robertmaybeth3434 But, why? The U.S. started this war, what was the point besides capitalism and corporate profits? Is that something to base your bedrock on? Would jesus invade other countries?
Every war is awful and I’m thankful for our troops, but also these vets really had it bad because even when they came back the people were mean and disrespectful to them. They were literally just doing their job as citizens.
On one documentary about airmen and fighter jets, one pilot saw an enemy missile the size of a telephone pole flying towards him and what scared him worst was his thoughts of getting captured and being sent to this place.
Any many people today complain about anything and everything.
They have no idea about real suffering.
And a war for nothing. Sad. Rich, powerful man-games while our men (and women) were killed, tortured and mamed forever.
Vietnam is flourishing. Thank God!!! Bless the troops.
Given our reasons for going to war, how ironic, a flourishing communist country.
@@Anglican4Iran Yes, it is! How ironic is that!
Don't say it was for nothing. There are many Vietnamese refugees who emigrated to free countries, especially the U.S., and enjoy freedom and prosper because of the sacrifices of the soldiers who served in Vietnam.
Don’t forget a large portion of current and ex military voted for Don the con…enthusiastically. Even invaded the capitol building on his behalf.
Illegal wars, occupations, regime change, and proxy wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Yemen.
What was their other choice in the vote?
My Youngest Uncle was there
Praying 🙏 for
All those Men!
He’s gone
Never Forget
Guantanamo Bay, where individuals were held indefinitely, without charge, while simultaneously being tortured by the CIA.
Another horrible injustice , but can you please respect the horrible treatment that these incredible men endured with such courage.
US invasion of Iraq declared illegal on Sept 15, 2004 by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan.
They are Muslims. They get what they deserve.
They are enemy combatants, they are treated well and never tortured.
The only individual to be imprisoned for the CIA Torture Program was the whistleblower himself, ex CIA agent John Kiriakou.
i was in saigon for three months in 73, the way i was treated coming home dont take this the wrong way but F Y.... somebody wanted me to clean up my language ....id rather not but will....
Another excellent documentary well done"
"Unhappy war" ? Is there such a thing as a happy war? Who is writing and editing Jane Pauley's intro?
It wasn't until I was hired to work on a film in 1985, The Hanoi Hilton that I learned of this horrific place and of the mighty men who endured the vicious torture inflicted upon them.. Although the film isn't a masterpiece it does reflect the truths of what went on over there. In addition to gaining a powerful history lesson I got to meet and work with Senator MacCain-who is in the film. For those of you who've watched this video-I suggest you check out the film. and for those who've lived through this horror, I'd like to know what you think of the film.
You poor guys...how can you remember! Young people today would need to hear.
I love this man and I feel like Michael could benefit from the right well trained Parkinson's service dog. They can definitely help you keep from falling, stand up more easily, help you get up if you fall, and go about your day with more confidence. They can give you more freedom and mobility. Not sure why I'v never seen him with one in any photo or film. I sure wish him the best. 💜
And yet good old 45 called McCain a loser.
These guys are truly hero’s and deserve respect.
Don't forget good ol' Hanoi Jane.
If commander bone spurs was in McCains position he'd be talking like a canary.
Unimaginable.
That was a serious tearjerker.
A powerful story. If you'd like to learn more about the failed escape attempt that ended with Ed Atterberry's death, find the book, THE PARTY DOLLS. It's award-winning nonfiction written from interviews with nine of the POWs involved with Atterberry's escape. Mike McGrath drew the book's cover art and is quoted extensively in the story.
“I like people who WEREN’T captured”
-DJT
'These prisoners just passed me these notes. Here ya go.' ... Hanoi Jane
@@thatsmrharley2u2 I never voted for her for President either.
@@rageinbull You probably weren't even born during Vietnam.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 No, but I served In Afghanistan.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 How many times are you going to say this your parroting yourself.
I'm french, and currently finishing to read the epilogue of "Defiant" by Alvin Townley. I learned about Jeremiah Denton about two years ago, and then watched "Return With Honor". This story (especially the book) has tremendously humbled me, and makes me feel incredibly small next to these men. I've been suffering from chronic pain for the past ten years and thought my life was 'tough'. Two years ago, I remember thinking "I wonder what I'd have done had I been in their position". And, about a month later, I injured my neck/spine really badly while working out. From that point on, I experienced levels of pain I'd never known. Felt like someone would snap my neck and crush my spine every night, sleeping became terror. I was on morphine and other painkillers for a year, lost and medically let down (apart from those medications). I'm still on other strong painkillers, barely helping. I thought about killing myself many times. But the memory of this Story, stayed with me. Also, Viktor Frankl's book Man's Search For Meaning, and its lessons, kept me alive and gave me the strength to go on during the worst moments. Only recently did I finally decide to read Defiant. As I'm reading the last few pages, I do believe this book will forever stay with me. I cried many times, and been pondering of and meditating on the privilege I have to live in the conditions I am currently in, as 'uncomfortable' as they may be. My respect and gratitude for these men (and the women who fought for them) is boundless. Sending Love from France.
Stockdale was a true hero to survive those conditions. Incidentally, Albuquerque, NM has the fourth oldest Hilton (1939) with the Hotel Andaluz.
Stocktake was in a position to view the supposed engagement of Aug 4, 1964, in the Gulf of Tonkin, and believed nothing took place. And he was proved to be correct.
I remember that day. John McCain came and spoke to our high school history class. Talk about things and showed us his arm. Which was a compound fracture that they did not set. He had gangrene it wasn't pretty what he had to do to save his arm and life.
Best show 🇺🇸
How can Trump have no respect for these men?? And how can anyone support a man who says that???
Cadet bonespurs! Trump wouldn't have lasted ten minutes!!
Of the many disgusting comments uttered by President Trump, his comments about a POW may be the worst 😞
People support Jane Fonda so nothing’s surprising!
@@jackshannonmusic7564 was you even born then ?
@@rogerwalk4420 ...the man is vile!!
Amazing men
I used to think there's only one greatest generation not only did had to fight a war but what they got when home was another war of disrespect
I recall Trump saying, " I don't like losers," when referring to servicemen who were captured during war. I wonder how long he can last in Hilton Hanoi.
Let’s keep him contained in a cell somewhere, call it the Trump Hotel, and find out.
Hopefully we'll see here soon !
He would beg the Viet Cong to allow him to be a prison guard for them!
@@kienvo Two words. Hanoi Jane
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Exactly. Jane apologized but it's too late.... Damages had been done!
All Heroes! Thank you Sirs.
That is scary stuff
These men are owed a debt that can never be repaid. If you think your life is hard...think again. I salute these true Men of Honor.
God bless the soldiers who were imprisoned here.
But, why? The U.S. started this war, what was the point besides capitalism and corporate profits? Is that something to base your bedrock on? Would jesus invade other countries?
Got the wrong Jane narrating……should be Jane Fonda….she’s very familiar with that location…
Remarkable
Just visited the museum of this prison in hannoi - absolute no mention of the torture or abuse or conditions forced on the POWs. Couldn’t believe the propaganda it was still pedalling, even had letters and photos of people testifying how good the conditions were and photos of volley ball and basket ball they played
Damn!
I am currently in Vietnam and just toured the Hoa Lo prison or “Hanoi Hilton” 3 days ago. Very little was mentioned about American POWs in the prison and what was had it portrayed as the “summer camp” propaganda in this video. It is hard to describe the sick feeling standing in the torture rooms or the solitary confinement cells. I felt incredibly proud to be an American in those moments.
any man who considers himself a Christian has alot to answer for, killing native people ten thousand miles away in a useless war driven by politics.
🙏🏻
I always hoped that those fools that welcomed these men and women back with spit and anger had karma knock on their door at some point. No one who fights for freedom should be made to feel like that especially since it was the DC leaders they voted for who sent them there.. My husband was in that war and to this day rarely speaks of it.
Yep, and if memory serves then the late Sen John McCain was a "guest" at the Hanoi Hilton, for a few years before he was released.
Unimaginable cruelty. I’ll bet their captors blamed them for their barbaric torture. Possibly they were not polite while being tortured.
At least the entire world saw what savage treatment they endured.
A wake up call to all.
As an aside, a person very close to me, endured a year of daily torture.
Vietnam was a very unpopular war and many men on both sides were treated inhumanly.
A draft was in place, and nobody deserves torture.
Why don't we talk about the ones that our country knowingly left over there all these years.
My grandfather also served in the Air Force as part of the ARVN and escaped on an aircraft the day Saigon fell with some of my family members to avoid this same fate. I find it crazy that some people who claim to support freedom still support the North and it’s actions while condemning the south for things that they’d let pass in the North. At the end of the day human rights abuses occurred at much higher rates in the north and still happen to this day in the VCP against those that speak up for freedom and democracy within the country. There’s a reason why so many Vietnamese risked their lives to escape when the communists took over. They wouldn’t have done that if the south was a terrible place and the north was good.
Too bad Vietnam today is a thriving and prosperous nation without the help of your kind, traitors!
The communists are the one that protected and nurtured Vietnam against foreign interference, while the capitalist puppets are colonialist collaborators.
The reason why they supports the North Vietnam because they are true freedom fighters that freed Vietnam from outlanders and invaders.
@@angkhoanguyen6114 They might have freed Vietnam from invaders but they are still not free. The communist party intrudes on their own people’s freedom.
where is democracy when south vietnam refused the 1956 referendum to unified the country 🥰🥰
😢
They learned those techniques from their french masters.
The Cuban and Russian torture experts were there in force as well.
The CIA moved in shortly after Dien Bien Phu in 54.
Wow even the Vietnam era guys are old ….. damn
Wow-these guys were/are true heroes
It’s not to late!
Why did CBS leave out Jane Fonda?
Why was she a POW?
Because she helped to rat on prisoner's
This should be at the Smithsonian Museum in Washington. Did we have to pay VietNam for the remnants?
Very sad indeed, horror movie are nothing compared to..real facts huh? Once again, if human life is not Holy Blessing...we are not humans anymore
Jane Fonda should have to listen to the stories of these men for the rest of her miserable life.
People are a bit confused. I don't answer to them. No one is above the law.
CIA coup in S Vietnam. Nov 1963.
War is terrible. Where any American soldiers left behind?
This is a mild version of Guantanamo.
"i like people that weren't captured" ~bone spurs don
'These prisoners just passed me these notes. Here ya go.' ...Hanoi Jane
@@thatsmrharley2u2 So you were there?
That notes story about Jane Fonda, it’s made up. Look it up.
Các bác nên cảm thấy xấu hổ vì những lời nói dối... VN không bao giờ tra tấn tù nhân chính trị. Các bác đã bị thương rất nặng và còn được chữa trị, nếu bị tra tấn thì liệu các bác còn đủ sức đến tầm tuổi này để lên tiếng không? Và nếu có sự tra tấn vậy có dấu tích tra tấn trên người không? Tình hình miền bắc VN lúc đấy cực kỳ khó khăn và nghèo, chắc chắn ở trong tù sẽ khó khăn, nhưng hãy thử nhìn khi được trở về nhà, các bác có thực sự trông giống một người bị tra tấn hay không? Néu các bác muốn biết một người tù thực sự bị tra tấn thế nào... hãy đến Côn Đảo, Phú Quốc của Việt Nam để xem và chiêm nghiệm nhé.
They are heroes
These are where our potiticians should go though !!!
Looks exactly like the new SALVADORAN prison
We wore the green back then, Army, 67-70....10 years of government subsidized lunacy, on an industrial level...Keystrokes of a typewriter, signature on a piece of paper,, you were dead..
#HEROS - the end ...thank you sirs !
Omg! The hilton family should all be in jail! How can they get away with stuff like this?
What??
@@thatsmrharley2u2 they tortured people in their hotel! It's insane
@@bluered3228 Please get a clue.
@@thatsmrharley2u2 Paris needs to pay!
Too bad we lost.
Think about the nonsense we complain about today. And all the while we exist in the greatest country in the world which was preserved by these men. ❤
If you believe America is the greatest country in the world you need to get out more, really!
@@crawnyxx And if you believe what you said, then you should move to the greatest country in the world. Only then will you realize you left the greatest.
@@lisamcdonald1820 I'm not in America and left a very long time ago without the slightest thought of going back. You believe people are flocking to America because it's great? Guess you missed the part of America destroying other countries so the occupant's are left to flee, let alone their economical IMF Monster but hey, you enjoy the falsified promotion!!!
@@crawnyxx I’ve traveled widely, I was born and raised in South Africa, moved to America 20 years ago, still travel a lot. Believe me when I say that only Americans who don’t pay attention don’t realize that America is the greatest country in the world.
@@JeffreyGillespie You definitely aren't paying attention but hey, whatever floats your boat...
Very interesting that they saved parts of the Hanoi Hilton, all the way from Vietnam, but they didn't save anything of the Manzanares Internment Camp right here in the US.
Have you visited any of the museums that do feature our history of internment and enslavement? You might find some of them interesting as well.
Remember the words of the former disgraced president “I like hero’s that weren’t captured”
At least he didn't rat out prisoners to the enemy like Hanoi Jane did.
@@thatsmrharley2u2Jane Fonda lives in your head doesn't she because you keep bring her up.
Lie, Vietnam treats American prisoners very well
If only Vietnam hadn't invaded the U.S. This could have all been avoided, stincken Vieatnamese.
When did vietnam invade the US?
@@user-td2jw9ze2c sarcasm exists
Trump had the nerve to call these men stupid for getting caught." John McCaine." Excuse me ! for getting captured or shot down.
John McCain always had my vote. Why we elect so many lawyers to office rather than patriots I cannot understand.
The French colonists built that prison and tortured Vietnamese in it
POWs captured and given to the Douth Vietnamese wete routiny killrd
And if ciurse ee have all deen pics if Vietnamese being thrlwn kut of helicopters to their death
And Trump called John McCain a "loser" for being shot down. Direct quote "I like winners." And the public accepts that behavior.
So, are you guys going to talk to who got bombed in Saigon too?…
How about a nice Hanoi Jane tribute?
Well, what do you expect would happen??? You invaded their country. They're not gonna roll down a red carpet for you.
the POW's are true American Hero's, except for songbird traitor mccain, may he rot in hell
3rd Batt. 7th Marines ChuLai,RVN 10/65-11/66
I had NO IDEA this was going on in the Vietnam war! Unbelievable
We’re you aware of the US Army murdering over 500 unarmed civilian men, women, children, and infants in the village of My Lai. (3/16/68)
@@kevinjenner9502 . Go get yourself some help Jenner; life’s truly too short.
@@kevinjenner9502 Two words. Hanoi Jane
Well, what did you think was going on? Mass torture is always a part of war.
They act like it's so cruel whenthe united states would do the exact same type of things to their p.o.w. s