The Most CRITICISED and CONTROVERSIAL Vegan Debate EVER
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2024
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The World Famous VIRAL Clash Between Vegan Activist Joey Carbstrong and Celebrity TV show Host Jeremy Vine.
This is the controversial and intense Radio debate that started a tirade of media in the UK. I was heavily criticised for my aggressive conduct in this debate even by the vegan community, but does the good outweigh the bad? You can be the judge...
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You were never criticized by me Joey, you did great and you continue doing great for the animals. Keep it up brother.
Wayward Winchester I’ll second that
@albert fish. Well said bet he would suck his meat sausage
So if i kill the animal myself and don't buy meat from the grocery store should i be judged? ( p.s I've been doing it for 3 years now)
@@imapugwearingglasses3629 - It depends on the philosophy and the culture. In Nazi Germany you would have been sent to a concentration camp for animal cruelty. In the USA now, you would be sent to prison for animal cruelty if you did that to a dog. In India, if you did that to a cow, I have no idea how long you would last.
@@victorpetrov829 tf it's my own farm and animals.....and i kill them humanely on the terms of halal and a last thing this world isn't as deluded as you think no one would be sent to concentration camps or to jail only because they killed an animal to eat. But in india it's a different story
Righteous anger.
I'm glad you uploaded this. I personally didn't think anything negative about this interview. A dead pig is a dead pig, and violence is violence. Why should we beat around the bush and act like politicians when innocent animals are getting their throats slit? I know some people don't like it; but this straight forward approach is what turned me into an ethical vegan. We need to utilize all approaches in our vegan activism, and this approach is an effective one.
Yep telling it like it really is.. definitely my preferred choice!
planting nice strong seeds piercing through the thick veil of social conditioning
WORD. NO BEATING AROUND THE BUSH. TRUTH IS NEEDED WHEN THERE IS A “HELL” ON EARTH.
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Me too, thank you Joey
There was nothing aggressive about that interview. You spoke from the heart and you spoke the truth. You are very truthful and very inspirational. You are composed and sensible. Good on you Joey keep up your good work I am with you all the way You have helped so many and are still doing so. Thank you
tru dat
100% well said
I can't agree with you Albert Fish he is not annoying. Joey was consistent in his conversation and truthful that is not annoying but fact I really admire Joey he doesn't back down, he keeps on giving answers relentlessly but politely. People probably find that annoying because they haven't got an answer or they can't justify their actions Keep up he good work Joey
Albert Fisher. How can you say "brainwashed" vegan when as children we are taught and told we need to eat meat we need to drink cows milk isn't that brainwashing from an early age. I don't know where you get the idea that being vegan is being brainwashed. Animals are sentient beings they feel pain they feel pleasure they should not be exploited by humans We have no right to breed, torture and murder them Surely you can see that what happens in slaughter houses, dairy farms, caged chickens even so called free range is cruel and Inhumane and completely unnecessary. Not to mention other industries that exploit animals like goats, sheep, turkeys, any animal.
Veganism is not just a diet of plants it is an active and educated way of living a compassionate life and caring for the environment. It is better for human health, climate change and a better way of living and saving this planet for future generations I know I want this for my children and grandchildren.
You make me laugh ahaha
The carnist is literally arguing for willful ignorance. How appropriate.
That was a pretty astounding argument from Jeremy Vine. Killing animals is okay. But hearing about animals being killed... HOW DARE YOU!
jhunt5578 lol yeah exactly
@albert fish He's not calling you a carnivore but a carnist. Carnist is a term used by the phycologist Dr. Melany Joy. She calls Carnism the invisible belief system of people who are omnivores. Simply put carnists believe that it's okay to eat some animals, but other animals are off limits as food.
For example most carnists would happily eat a pig, but would be appalled by eating a dog. But what is the ethical difference when both those animals suffer?
Most carnists would happily eat a lamb, but never a house cat. But what is the ethical difference when both of those animals seek to avoid dying?
And this hidden belief system of carnism changes from culture to culture. In India you never eat a cow, in the Middle East it's not kosher or halal to eat pigs, in Kazakhstan they eat horses, in Peru guinea pigs, in Japan whales, in Korea dogs, in Vietnam cats.
All of these animals suffer and desire to live, to favour one over the other is hypocritical and Carnist.
@albert fish In Vietnam some dogs are specifically bred to be food, would you eat one of those dogs?
@@Giovanni-it5qo That's fair. In Dr. Melany Joy's concept, she identifies some main diets held through belief systems. 1. Veganism (The belief that you shouldn't eat any animal products) 2. Vegetarianism (The belief that animal flesh is off limits but it's okay to consume their by-products) 3. Carnism (The belief that it's okay to eat some animals, but other animals are off limits as food.) 4. Cannibalism (The belief that it's okay to eat all animals)
So I imagine that you are a Carnist, and in your particular case, you are okay with eating all non-human animals, but to eat a human animal would be off limits. Or would you eat a human if they taste good?
Joey this is a legendary interview, I’m so glad you shared. Your responses were concise and right on point, and you spoke with passion yet didn’t let it diminish your logic. Great job!
What clown this guy is absolute muppet
I finally got to hear this interview after waiting forever and I must say you conducted yourself so well, I don’t understand the criticism. You were well spoken, articulate and straight truth bombs left right and centre. Good work Joey. Keep going.
I'm so happy that millions of people heard that!
@@Giovanni-it5qo I didn't delete any comments. Why haven't you answered the question that I posed to you? Surely not because you have the discernment to know that it's futile.
@@Giovanni-it5qo The one I asked about balance in my previous reply. Are you always this obtuse or is all that meat finally starting to take it's toll?
@@Giovanni-it5qo You are a keyboard thing so just get some help...fave ot face you dont have the balls to say that kind of things because if people listen to you they could start to lauging!
* * Giovanni * * I'm vegan my food is not the same every time,are you someone that thinks vegans only eat fruit and veg?
and most were turned off lol
You were not too aggressive at all, Joey.
Facts and logic.....
@@BasedOut100mil
Every frickin' time!
Hell yeahhhh
if i was a non-human animal, this is the kind of advocacy I'd want people who are trying to liberate me with their words to use. Non apologetic straightforward and honest. thumbs up mate.
Good work Joey! Thank you for speaking up about the animals.
speaking up about the animals, or speaking out for the animals. which one do you mean.? I personally speak up for. the animals not about the animals..... at least that's what I try😅
I have never met you, but I still consider you to be a brother to me!
Thank you for your hard work and effort! Know that you are not alone, so many people stand behind you and what you do!
Edit_: Now I have watched/ listened to the interview and your style of arguing was on point! You remind me a lot of Gary Yourofsky (the one who turned me vegan). And many people, including myself, actually listen to this kind of direct language. So keep doing this your way! :)
Aw what a nice comment, I completely agree
@@VioletWaves44 Thank you, Laura!
i completely agree as well!! you helped me so much Joey!!
Ahahah
"Is it possible that eating meat would calm you down" what the fuuuck
@Jedi Monk of Kefalonia Im curious, what nutrients do you feel you cannot get from plants?
@Jedi Monk of Kefalonia "stick to nature"? There's nothing natural about breeding and slaughtering billions of animals, nor about feeding those animals tons of B12 and antibiotics to make the most profit out of them. Take your own argument, stick to nature, and eat plants.
Jedi Monk of Kefalonia my nature tells me not to harm animals if I don't have to, that doesnt work. We can get all the things we need minus b12 from plants
@Jedi Monk of Kefalonia EPA and DHA are obtainable via ALA, you can be perfectly fine, or even better without heme iron, vitamins are the least problematic of all, since plants contain so many. Taurine and creatine are already produced by our own body. And carnosine is not even essential.
Fibre is indigestible, yet we do need to eat it. Phytic acids doesn't seem to be that much of a problem. Same for oxalates. Lectins aren't a problem at all, since nobody eats raw beans...
You are saying you are more knowledgeable than the academy of nutritions from a lot of different countries, who say that appropriately planned vegan diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. They do not say that you can survive for a few years before being deficient in some things, they say it is *healthful* and *nutritionally adequate* . So I'd suggest you study a bit more, find out why your opinion diverges from a ton of doctors and nutrionist, and listen to what the science is saying. *You don't need* to eat animals. So stop killing them.
@Jedi Monk of Kefalonia right.. cause abuse torture fear slaughter calms the soul right down O.o
"Where's your justification"
"Worry about your own country."
..........good answer pal 🙄
I didn't see an issue with the way you came off. Gary Yourofsky would be proud of you, mate.
Mistah Unknown He would indeed.
We love you. The movement wouldn’t be the same without brave humans like you 💚🙏🏼
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Not sure what everyone's problem is ... this interview completely does the animals justice Joey! I think you did great!! Never doubt yourself 💚✊🏼🐷🐮🐟🐥💚
Yes! Never doubt what you Do for the animals! And for the World.
Honestly the way you advocate is 100% how each and every vegan activist should. Enough of the chill vegan. Animals need and deserve voices like your own and nothing less. It's 2019, let's make this the biggest year for animal rights yet!!
So true, Carly! I am super excited for the amount of new vegans 2019 is going to bring
Let's make sure a mosquito larvae is given equal care as a human baby!
"Would you get angry if there was dogs being humanely slaughtered for food?"
(sound of crickets)
@Pappy Tron The part of your brain responsible for empathy is turned off. You're a psychopath
@@Giovanni-it5qo Stop being a special snowflake by thinking your point of view is the right point of view
* * Giovanni * * giovani! You never answered me again! I corrected your health claims on veganism citing scientific bodies and you disappeared!
Why do you keep dodging our debates? Is it because you can't upset me with your silly comments?
I always find you insulting people lol, come on mate, finish our conversation!
Some countries eat dogs
How to save a million wouldn't get angry at all ,what do you think you get in a Chinese, its sweet & sour alsatian you daft sod, mmmmm
Fantastic interview. I wouldn't change a thing.
Ashlee Felgate ; Any idea what the “ALF” is? I’d never heard of it before. 😯❓😯 Or, is it “ALS”?
@@juliecooper6628 ALF stands for the Animal Liberation Front. 😊
EXACTLY, the “ham and cheese” sandwich education off the back was a peeeeerfect start.
Nothing negative about this one. Well done.
I support your method of activism! And I don't see aggression in this interview. I see a man with passion! Please keep up the work you are doing, you are making a HUGE positive impact on the vegan revolution! ✌🏽💚 peace & love!
He doesn’t give people a chance to speak.
Joey, 👏 👏👏 I think the 60 billion animals killed every YEAR would say you weren't aggressive enough
Yeah... Right...
MATE!!! This is EXACTLY the sort of message we needed mate!!! I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE IT!!! THANK YOU!!
Me and you both, my Mum used to put Lamb on my dinner plate and if she said it was Lamb, I wouldn't eat it.
So the programming was - it's only meat.
If she admitted it was an animal I wouldn't eat it, I was then psychologically manipulated by the government and meat industry to continue disconnecting life and innocence!!!
It was Earthlings and, Game Changers Documentaries that awoke me, that connected the dots and I still to this day am devastated by my choices.
I feel betrayed and so upset by the evil industry that I make it my MISSION as well to expose, shame and argue for the voiceless!!!
I did Challenge 22 by Joey and am a regular Vegan advocate in the graduates group on Facebook helping people make better choices now for meat alternatives and replacing nutrients from meat.
Love ya Joey, keep the work going and thank you for making people aware!!!
Not "too aggressive" you were passionate for the animals, and they do need this. We advocate in the best way we can. Some activists are gentle, some are more to the point, the full animal liberation movement needs a full spectrum of activists. Thank you for speaking out
Joey bro you took an exemplary and effective stance in this interview this was not a bad interview at all
I love hearing the passion, it's a breath of fresh air. 50 billion land animals and a trillion fish a year. More than the amount of dogs that even exist. More than the amount of humans that have ever existed in all of time. If someone can get passionate about one animal, how can we be completely calm constantly about over a trillion killed.
Good shit Joey. Keep lighting up the world brother.
Vegan shit tang ina mo gago bobo titi mo vegan rin
@@na7654na Rude.
You can never be too aggressive!!!! What's more aggressive? Raping, torturing and killing of animals or teaching humans to not eat them!!! ??? Great job!
I think you're missing the Greggs vegan sausage roll debate. Shit is getting real there.
I did something for that, coming soon. You’ll be very surprised I think...
@@JoeyCarbstrong It's utterly hilarious and completely ridiculous.
@@JoeyCarbstrong looking forward to this
😂😂😂
@@guriinii
Whilst Greggs is closed during the lockdown, I've just found 'oven ready' Vegan sausage rolls in the frozen food section of Aldi.
Haven't tried them yet but... well a chap likes to know he has choices.
Stay safe, one and all.
😊
Those news story headlines deliberately trivialized the whole concept of veganism by focusing on you being offended by a sandwich. What a shame some "vegans" felt the need to criticize you and claim it was a "missed opportunity." The facts are that you reached millions and the photo of you holding the pig says it all. The message will prevail! Go Joey 2019 xoxox
Hearing the entire interview was really enlightening. Brilliant points all the way through.
Exactly!!! I only hear a passionate vegan activist not aggressive at all.
There was nothing aggressive in that interview at all. Thank you for all your doing Joey. Hope soon more people open their eyes to the daily suffering of Innocent Animals everywhere. A vegan world will come.
What's so controversial about this interview? I think that Joey behaved really well and didn't create any conflicts.
Mad respect BROTHER! God speaks through you brother! Great activism
why dint jesus use iPhone? @@traymitt
This interview was awesome like everyone of yours, There was nothing wrong with this interview . It wasn’t aggressive, You were just speaking from the
Heart of the animals, and saying the truth. GO vegan 🌱 Defend animals ... and Good job Joey.💝
Great interview.
Fighting genocide is uncomfortable to those committing genocide.
@Pappy Tron The fact that people still play the name game instead of facing the actual act of killing mass numbers of sentient beings because of who and what they are is more uncomfortable than even that
@Pappy Tron Ah, that makes total sense.
Ok well billions of animals are being slaughtered every year, but it's not genocide. Animals- for example cows- are getting fisted up their anus and injected with semen without consent, as animals cannot give consent, but it's not rape. And though animals are essentially victims being killed by humans for no reason other than to be eaten even though it is currently unnecessary, it is not murder.
*Fighting the mass slaughter of sentient beings is uncomfortable to those committing the mass slaughter of sentient beings*
There you are, an argument that does not rely on "buzzwords for impact'
It simply is what it simply is.
No matter how much you deny it, it is the same thing. The name game can only be played for so long
Genocide is an attempt to wipe out an entire population.. off the face of the earth. For no reason. See the difference? Get your vegan lingo right bruv.
@@Skunkyfunk it's a constant rate of murder, much like speed is a constant rate of acceleration. If we maintained the rate of murder without the rape to maintain the numbers the many species we eat en masse would reach extinction quickly. It's a word used to promote compassion, critical thinking, and a reduction of supply/demand driven consumerism. we arent going for absolute exactitude here.
jeff schumacher exactly, you’re using a word that is used to describe the extermination of a species to further your ethical viewpoint. Farming animals isn’t the deliberate extermination of a species. Vegans like to use words that aren’t relevant to a situation to further their own personal beliefs/agenda. Its a religion/cult ideology
Truly inspirational ! Ive been vegan since December 23rd Thanks to Joey and James aspey.
@@marioferrari3041 Thank you so much for the warm welcome, My life has changed Immensely thanks to the support of compassionate people, like yourself.
Lex Naturalis you’ve made the biggest change, and it only gets better and easier from here. You will likely face social challenges, but remember to stay respectful and lean on your vegan community for help if needed, because we are here for each other just like for all animals. #rightsideofhistory bravo 👏
If you're fighting for what you believe in the opposing side always brand you "agressive" it's just a tactic to make you seem unhinged but it couldn't be further from the truth Joey!
Absolutely stunning... a brilliant interview.
The truth is, sometimes it needs to be told how it is without fading into the background and not being noticed.
We need to SPEAK UP for the animals and step up our activism. AV and other polite outreach is great, but we also need to be making more noise, including heated debates to give the media a bit of a show so they will push it to a wider audience.
Great work, you and Laura are awesome x
You are my inspiration Joey🌱 #veganfor5years (vegan since year 2013) (I actually went vegan when my mom did) I’m 14 and vegan💚
* * Giovanni * * #veganforever
* * Giovanni * * wow u really have problems...get a life. U don’t have a heart...SAD I’m wasting my time with u...ByE
Amazing to read about young vegans with determination.
Don't go vegan
@@alexcalderwood8454 too late!! 17yr vegan here #veganforlife
Wow love This interview it was amazing!!!
You will be remembered for what you do for animals joey!!
NOT too aggressive! Right on, mate! Thank you for your work and voice!
Vegan In Michigan aggressive but not too aggressive, yep! Sometimes aggression is appropriate
@@chrishomer heck yeah it is! We all need to speak out in any way necessary! 💚 speak as if it were us in those cages! 👍
Vegan In Michigan 👍
Like Gary Yourovsky says, people are either ready to hear the message or they aren't it doesn't matter how blunt or "aggressive" you are. Im sure you affected 10's maybe even 100's of thousands of people. Planted a lot of seeds. Respect Joey
You completely wrecked that fool when you brought up whether it's ethical to bolt gun dogs too, he couldn't answer it so he tried to dodge it by talking about euthanizing sick dogs. Such a slimy tactic.
you said what had to be said. PERIOD.
tru dat....nothing more, nothing less
I didn't see any problem with what you said. Everything you said was purely factual. If they want to take offense to what you say, that's there problem. Being offended of-course is subjective to the individual.
I'm thankful for what you do on behalf of the animals and I've always looked to you as a role model! Keep it up Joey, "don't let the fire dissipate from your heart"!
Nothing wrong with this interview Joey, well done. It's a shame that your questions were not answered. I have heard much more aggressive interviewing on BBC radio 4 so I would be surprised if anyone thought that your conduct was over the top. Best wishes.
Great work Joey!.....there was no hesitation in your responses and they were solid
Your interview was properly strong and firm. Sometimes cages have to be rattled to get people's attention. Obviously the cages rattled by doomed animals to the slaughter aren't getting enough attention. Joey you are one of the most needed voices in the movement.
You know who you are Joey!
Youre not aggressive or disrespectful.
Youre passionately standing up for what is right.
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Everyone thinks they know they best way to do something but just keep listening to your own heart and do what you feel is best to peacefully defend the needless victims. Love you! 🌱🌱
@@Giovanni-it5qo
Thats your ego talking.
Your heart wants nothing to do with animal products.
Its unnecessary cruelty and the leading cause of heart disease.
watch.dominionmovement.com
nutritionfacts.org/2013/02/14/animal-protein-and-igf-1/
nutritionfacts.org/video/cavities-and-coronaries-our-choice/
heart.org/en/health-topics/cholesterol/about-cholesterol
www.totalhealthinstitute.com/high-cholesterol/
@@Giovanni-it5qo
lol they prove that your opinion is wrong.
Go troll elsewhere.
@@Giovanni-it5qo
Bias studies paid for by the meat, dairy and egg industries, sure.
But plenty of more credible sources proving these facts.
And NutritionFacts.org is a non for profit.
@@Giovanni-it5qo scientific concensus is that cholesterol causes heart disease.
@@Giovanni-it5qo
Riiiiight
The propaganda of wanting people not to kill sentient beings when we dont need to for survival or health and to better our planet
Ahh oh no. A compassionate and ethical world. Such propaganda.
I don't think this is too extreme. It's very clear, simple, fundamental, passionate, honest. Good to really believe in something, a good cause and go for that!
Your videos are amazing! 🥰 Keep up the good work. I turnt vegan a week ago, your vids and many other activists are so inspirational. 🥰👍🏽🌿 I'm 13 and vegan.
Zahliyah Briggs amazing! Please document your journey. Maybe do a blood test now and after 1 or 2 years to see the changes :). It will be solid anecdotal evidence.
Also depending on how you are as a person you can pick one or more mediums to communicate.
Start a podcast (audio) with anchor.fm (very easy)
write a blog or short messages on medium, twitter and or instagram (under pictures)
or make videos for snapchat, facebook, instagram and youtube.
It would be cool to see someone with a documented journey from the start.
My first things I learned after going vegan is to check the ingredients lists for gelatine and milk powder.
In Europe it’s in a lot of products.
If you can avoid them, please do.
I know the vegan argument for animals rights is good, but do some research about how people become ex-vegans because their health has suffered. Just note there has never been a long term vegan community in the history of the world and this is a more recent experiment. As someone at such a young impressionable age, make sure you do your research and determine the best path for physical and mental health. Yes, there are things wrong with the animal industry, but that doesnt automatically make the vegan diet the most healthiest diet choice. Be smart, be educated and never shut your door to new ideas. Best of luck.
Thanks for considering your health and the animals. I've been vegan for over eight years. It's been the best and most enlightened years of my life. Best wishes.
Amazing! Don’t take things people say about “health effects” too close to heart. There truly are only positive effects. To learn more watch Mic The Vegan on RUclips, one of the best. You’ll be so glad that you made the change now, I’m 16 and I wish I could’ve made the connection when I was a bit younger. Keep fighting the good fight ♥️✌️
@@MaxYield what if someone told you that the only way to be healthy involved small amounts of cannibalism? It's fair to point out that not all vegan food is healthy and that everyone needs to find the foods that are best for them, but to suggest eating animal products to someone who's made the ethical decision to stop eating them is irresponsible, especially given studies that show their links to cancer and heart disease.
It's not food, it's violence ✌🏻
@@Giovanni-it5qo 1. My reaction: ...🙄
2. "One day the absurdity of the almost universal human belief in the slavery of other animals will be palpable. We shall then have discovered our souls and become worthier of sharing this planet with them." *- Martin Luther King*
Just because something has been done for a long time, does not make it right my dear.
@Southy Well propperly not the people reading these youtube comments, so it has nothing to do with it. If you get your food from a supermarked or alike, you are not in the survival categorie✌🏻 Paying for animals to be killed to eat their body is a want, not a need.
@Southy Well that is great, I wanna do that too someday🙌🏻 But most people do have a way to buy the food they need, or grow it themselfs insteed of killing animals needlesly. Again cool that you live of your land.
Piers morgan is doing more for the vegan movement right now over the past three days than any other vegan activist. Even tweeting about veganuary. Encouraging to see how many meat eaters are actually supportive of new vegan products like vegan sausage rolls
Haha👍
defending an innocent being from harm with force is not violence.
TheFettuck forced into a house of slaughter,I thought that was obvious.realy fettuck wake up
@@TheFettuck a force strong enough to put down that violence, dum dum.
Vegans criticizing you for you? For what? I can't do activism because I would be a bad and violent image for our community; you though mate, rock the hell out of it.
You sir are one of the GREATEST LIBERATORS OF ALL TIME!!
That was superb Joey! You hit him hard with facts and truth...And yes we are angry because animals who have not harmed us are being enslaved, abused, neglected and gruesomely killed. His greed blinds his compassion. He rambled on and on because he knew he could not answer your questions. These people are so dissociated that they think we are fighting for the rights of stuffed toys!
''I get criticized by non vegans, by vegans and by other activists. But luckily i'm not doing what i'm doing for any of them''
perfectly said brother!
You are braver than most Joey. Be proud of that. All of us who are vegan deal with resistance to the truth all the time in our private lives. YOU are doing this publically and putting yourself in a very vulnerable spot. It's amazing to me. You inspire me every day my friend :)
Great to hear this again. I remember hearing this live on my phone at work in the warehouse at the time. You spoke very well. Then it exploded after that interview. Wow. Boom as the old Joey would have said 😂
No one respond to * * Giovanni * * He is a troll so just mass report every troll comment unless he brings up an actual valid argument. Have a nice day!
There is no valid argument for veganism. Nor is there one study that backs it up. There will never be a vegan world. It will remain a cult.
Don't worry im keeping a spreadsheet of all regular trolls and paid shills by egg meat and dairy industry. Giovanni is one of them. Last time i mentioned a spreadsheet a lot of the usual ones stopped posting and later and I saw new names pop up. How unusual right?🤔
@@youtuber-lr8ck wow, you must lead a very fulfilling life if you're keeping spreadsheets of youtube commentors 😂
Excellent ! 👍 keep up the good job
This is passion not violence!
I think this was a great interview, thanks for being the voice that the animals need 🙏🏼
i hate when meat eaters say that they don’t want to know were it comes from etc, it’s willful ignorance. to choose ignorance is so frustrating and immoral. if you can’t bare to look, why is it good enough to eat? you are paying for this to happen and are detached from the truth because of packaging and labels... face the truth
I laughed at vegans 3 years ago, while defending eating a steak. And here I am, vegan 3 years.. I feel embarrassed being an idiot for so long.
*Benevolent arrogance* is something I also apply.
Vegans who criticize an arrogant or aggressive approach by another vegan in a debate is commiting a logical error. We are not trying to wake up avid meat eaters - they are not wakeable. Nor do we care of non-vegans watching the debate who thinks we're being arrogant - such people are only looking for excuses to not having to change their habits(they wouldn't change regardless of how "Nice" the vegan debator is).
An aggressive, no-nonsense approach is the only way to go. We want to "recruit" those who are like most of us once were - compassionate people who doesn't really like to eat animal products but are in a weird, almost trance like state where they just continue their old habits for no reason. It's these people we are REALLY speaking to when being aggressive in a debate against an avid, unchangeable meateater. These people need a wakeup call - and we need to speak loud so they can hear us.
Well done Joey! I still can’t understand with so many other haulage jobs out there, why drivers choose a job transporting animals to slaughter houses?
I am a truck driver... Im vegan, i will never transport animal for being killed.
No criticism of the interview.
What I would question was your reaction afterwards, firstly apologising for your passion and secondly the laughing and "hope they like the show" comment.
I appreciate that in that sort of situation the adrenaline is high and I would imagine afterwards when you feel you'd given a good account of yourself the endorphins are flowing, but what you're doing isn't entertainment.
Your style is more intense than someone like Earthling Ed or Natasha from That Vegan Couple, which some might say is a bit less effective, but I certainly couldn't do what you do without losing it completely.
As a side note, Jeremy Vine also hosts a morning tv show, discussing issues of the day with 3 other public figures. You have been mentioned a couple of times by Mr Vine since this interview, when vegan stories are in the news and he has been less than complementary about you.
Keep doing what you do.
Vegans being indirect and skirting around the issue are the reason why it took me 19 years to become one. People need to hear the cold hard truth. You cannot kill someone that does not want to die and a "ham" sandwich is a dead pig. This interview is excellent and would turn me vegan straight away. Joey has a right to be angry, we all do. Animals are being murdered for no reason whatsoever and we need to make that as clear as possible.
Thank you for doing this! You are not agressive and love your style of arguments. Hope you get more shots at media attention.
Not too aggressive at all! Well spoken!
You're my inspiration! I watched a lot of your videos, you opened my eyes! You're doing great job, you're amazing! Love xx
Sorry for the silly question, but what was the name of the BBC documentary? I've watched 'Dispatches: The Truth About Vegans' before and I'm re-watching today ('Dispatches' is a long-running Channel 4 investigative journalism series, that I've loved my teens) which has similar topics but was broadcast later than the BBC one.
You smashed this interview! Gutted I missed it live on the radio! Well done mate ✌️️
Your message was loud and clear. I don’t think it was aggressive at all. I like your style and your courage 💡🌎You spoke from what drives you. It’s all about the real victims here. The animals 🐷🐮🐔🐑.
Keep up the good work Joey..... It's the 'death rattle' of the meat, dairy and egg industry we're hearing...
Joey your editing is quite good. Thank you for sharing this, your one of my biggest motivation for being a new activist. What video editor do use? I just started RUclips. Thank you Joey 🙏💯
Eating meat calms you down? Based on what evidence? If anything drinking tea calm people down. People should look into the philosophy of veganism. Look into the message, not the messenger.
First time hearing this, and honestly Joey you did not sound aggressive at all to me, only straight forward and passionate which most vegans would be and I think it was the right way to go, not censoring your speech and being true to your feelings. 👍🏽🌿
You are doing a wonderful thing Joey, not many people have the courage to defend animals the way you do.
There is something so disgusting about when meat eaters say they "don't want to know where it comes from" but still be complicit. Why can't they understand that meat doesn't grow on trees
That was a super interview done by one of the best vegan activist in the world. Great one, my brother.
You're a true advocate, Joey! 5 years and more to come, very good man :)
Great job as always Joey. Keep standing up for animals we are winning the fight
@@Giovanni-it5qo people are going vegan everyday. Be on the right side of history!
@@VeganManKind vegans are also returning to meateating everyday
@@Giovanni-it5qo you prefer supporting abuse? What can you only get from animal products, besides cholesterol?
@@Giovanni-it5qo can you get protein from plants?
@@Giovanni-it5qo how much protein do you need a day?
I remember seeing your video on this and I still feel the same way about it. Your heart is always in the right place and you're Human so whatever way your passion comes across, it's never wrong. You do what you feel you need to do. You've explained many times that you don't condone aggressive activism but a lot of vegans are angry, I was for a long time so I can understand why they do those things.
As always, the animals are the victims, not the farmers. Gary Yourofsky said something about all this and it went something like, if people are shocked and disgusted about the words or acts to do with animal agriculture and they try to shut off from it not wanting to see or hear about it, then it shouldn't be good enough for them to eat it.
Awesome video Joey.
I am so thrilled to be a patreon donor to you, Joey. People reading this, we need to fund effective activism if we are really serious about achieving animal liberation. Joey, I didn't think you were not aggressive at all. I think the interviewer was absurdly aggressive, but he covered it up by speaking in a calm "nice" voice, while he disrespected you, everything you believe in, and the animals at every turn.
My family and turned almost exactly year being vegan and your videos inspire us to be more of an activist, in a year we help 10 people to become vegan and many more with the seed planted, I see it growing in the California, Del Taco and Carl jr now with beyond meat , I think vegan pizza at Pizza Hut, and now my mom and I showed veganism to my uncle now he has vegan menu at his restaurant. Keep it up Joey ! I'm really hopeful of the future 😁
Joey you truly are amazing and don’t ever doubt yourself. Passion is not aggression and you done great on behalf of the poor animals! 💙
The world needs people like you!!! You are changing the world, keep up the good work
I've been vegan for 33 years. You were not aggressive. What we have to remember to say is, "Mate, if you were on your way to slaughter, how would you want me to speak up for you?" We have to be passionate and sometimes we have to be as loud and persistant as the screams of animals most will never hear.
All activists have their own technique, not every method suits everyone. There is a place for all types of activism, so long as it’s not violent, and people have become vegan because of you, so never excuse who you are, you are you, and you are awesome 😎
You did a good job 👍
Love to Laura x
There's no comfortable way of breaking the ugly truth. Anything activism by vegans will be seen as extreme no matter how tame it is.
Good interview as always. Thank you.
So powerful, the speech at the end very good :) thank you for the work you do.
@@Giovanni-it5qo would you call yourself an animal lover?
That was perfect joey. If the animals were listening and could understand what you said to defend them, they would be proud. Dont let anyone judge what you do with passion and love. That comes from the heart. If it means anything, you are my hero. You are a great leader. You are my inspiration. I try to model my videos on my channel after you. You were the first activist I watched talking to people in the public. Thank you a million times over.
'Is it true that meat calms you down?' Possibly the most stupid question asked in an interview.
It's great that you've released this Joey! I think you actually handled yourself quite well. It's always difficult talking to people in these kind of situations... they set you up in a way to ensure there is a proper "show" for the listeners. It's like they goad someone into a verbal fight and then act surprised about it. Like, oh, the vegan can't be calm? He should eat some meat. Good on you man! Keep up your excellent work!