How To ACTUALLY Solo Over Stash by Phish
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
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I'm not even a musician and I love watching your lessons. Thx very much and keep doin' what you're doing.
Such a great video. I love the theory explanation. I saw that you are making a theory-less video with Sean. I love the theory. Hope you never give up explaining the theory. You are the best at it.
We seriously needed a dude like you on youtube, because most of the phish teachings are shit. Thank you again for this!!
Thank you for explaining how phish stays locked on tension. It's an important part of the lesson. Important for people to understand. I commend you as this is a hard thing to explain in words. Well done. I subscribed.
THIS IS SO HELPFUL!
I have some jam band friends that are more into this music than I am, but referencing Jazz really helped me with this lesson, thank you!!
Thanks Ian, appreciate your videos, glad you took on Stash Trey's tribute to the great jazz progressions, hear a lot of Dizzy in here
I still think you can think of that E dim as an A7b9, than it is a minor ii V i , a classic jazz progression and everything you describe still applies
Thanks again, keep up the good work
Your a genius Stitch
Duuuuuuuuude I've been waiting for someone to explain some of these concepts this way for ages, THANK YOU. So now can you analyze Stash from Amsterdam '97? ;)
damn, ian, i recently fell in love with phish and trey's incredible talent has inspired me to further my education in guitar playing, as he is one of my biggest guitar inspirations. watching your videos have taught me SO much about scales and music theory, and i just wanted to say thank you so much for what you do. this video had me smiling when i finally pieced together all the musicality when you first described how trey sustains that dimished E back into that dminor jam. I know im rambling, but damn, thanks!!!!
p.s., just bought your PDF!! :)
Sick, man. I always wondered how they do the "tension and release." Watched some other way-to-complicated videos that just made my head spin. YOU are the man!
I absolutely love your lessons! Keep fighting the good fight.
You nailed it! Great stuff! I just found your channel through this, so you have a new sub good sir.
Seriously love your stuff. It's helping me so much!
Love this!!! thank you!!!! Tell us more!! Trey for Days!! Kung!!!
Good teacher
Well done, sir!
You’re a Jedi!!!
holy. shit.
dude, you make everything make sense!
thank you so much for your videos!
any chance you could break down the solo from Horn?
Edim7 is the upper extension of an A7b9. E-5 G-b7 Bb-b9 C#-3. Mike plays an A bass note under the Edim7 chord. It ends up being an A7b9 chord which is the V Chord of D minor
Absolutely right ! Trey is on the upper extension and utilizes it for tension
Also, I think that a lot of theory heavy guys mention D Harmonic minor because of the leading tone(C#) in the A7b9(Edim7) chord. That C# is not contained with the D Natural Minor Scale so the chord is technically speaking, derived from the D Harmonic Minor. Sorry theory nerding out a little here, it's probably best to not over complicate things too much.
Hey Ian, being a phan since '93, I've always wanted to get down the main parts of Stash, just never got around. So searching around, came across this awesome nugget. Hearing your comments at the start on the progression, I'm sure somebody mentioned this before, but I think folks who say that last chord is A7 flat 9, pretty much E diminished are the same notes as the A7 b9. I guess it depends on what note Mike lands on. If he touches on the A, its basically A7b9. If hes hanging on that E, which is a majority of the time, which gives us that awesome tension, its definitely Edim. Just theory nerd stuff, I think that's why these guys all over RUclips say its A7b9. Very common jazz progression Emin7flat5- A7b9-Dmin, but Trey throws in that tasty Bb7. Love what your teaching, thanks
I know this is an old video Ian. I would suggest to you that Stash really isn't improvised that much. Trey seems to play pretty much of a fix line throughout the song. I found it easier just to learn Trey's part note for note. I do appreciate the shapes you are showing here to help people understand what is beneath the line he is playing....
Ummm. He improvises the jam literally every time. Literally ever single time.... the Jam.... improvised every single time. Now, in most recent years, the jams might have tamed, but still jammed on, and in the era of study this video was based on 93-97, the jams were off the wall and again improvised.
Well done! Thank you for this. I'm just starting to get a foothold on Stash and this is a terrific resource. Out of curiosity, the guitar in the title screen is different from what you played in the video. It looks like a G2 from the headstock shape, but I don't see Paul's inlay. It doesn't really look like any of the Phreds though. What is it?
Great video. The progression is D min, B-flat7, E minor/flat 5, A7/flat 9. It's a typical V7/b5-->i at the end. The flat 9 in the A7 makes the diminished chord that you're talking about. E could be played in the bass or A. It's the half step from C# to D that's used to build tension.
Sometimes Mike plays an ugly Eb over the A7.
This is great. I like your style and the way you convey information. Very helpful.
I wish you would regulate the volume level in your videos
You reached one more soul this eve.... awesome lesson and explanation. I been playing off and on since 94; and you're the best teacher Ive ever had. Also, I love the final message you give.: "IF IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE, ITS WRONG". not just pretty words, thats a mantra
Dude I don't know how I came across your videos and channel, but I can't stop watching. I've been playing casually for 20 years, but you are helping take my playing to the next level. Thanks, you are a legend.
That may appear to be an E diminished 7 but it is in fact a rootless D# 7b9. The D# 7b9 works to build tension because of it being the tritone sub of A7. (D#-F##-A#-C#-E------D#7b9) (E-G-Bb-Db -----Edim7) You can see that the notes are the same and that its just a rootless D#7b9. That is the 'jazz theory' behind it. It creates the chromatic line where the D in the E minor 7b5 goes down to the Db/C# of the E dim7/ D#7b9 down to to the C in D minor 7. Cheers
StichMethod Guitar Hey just adding in my two cents. If you want to see how the composer was thinking when he wrote the tune that would be it man. It might not be important if you're not looking to make your own music but for those that are in it for making their own music it's useful to see the cleverness in a composer and how they were thinking when composing the tune. Cheers
To my ears, Page often puts an A in the bass when comping, so I would call it an A7b9. I hear Cactus occasionally throw in a tritone sub, but in this context the Eb might be more accurately thought of as the b5 of the dominant. And while this dim7 chord tone technique you describe provides a wonderful frame on which to build (especially for the jazz theory neophyte), and though it can really help the ears "click" when trying to get this tune under your fingers, it doesn't quite give the whole picture.
On the other hand, thinking of the progression as a more or less standard VI-ii-V-i progression (albeit, with an altered dominant) is probably a more coherent picture of the relationship between the chords. It may also help provide players with a more complete understanding of the possibilities available to them when soloing (Trey, for instance, may throw in a fair amount more than just m3 arpeggios transposed up and down the neck, so knowing where and when and how to drop some of the more arcane uses of jazz chromaticism would be useful). It could even help one find common threads between Phish's musical vocabulary and the wider world of jazz, classical, and popular music. For instance, one might discover a connection between one tune and another, then incorporate, for example, some legendary Django phrases into a Stash jam.
In any case, I'm super happy I found this channel, where a lot of the leg work of theory analysis has already been done, and I can sit here and armchair-nitpick! ;) Seriously though, thank you. I've only just begun watching, but I can already guess that it will prove to be a hell of a resource for me.
This is great - I would like to add that on that E Dim chord, Mike is usually playing an A in the bass (and sometimes an Eb) adding even more tension. Maybe that's why people try to interpret that chord as some type of A chord.
It’s an A7b9. Basically a edim with an a in the bass
great vid man! love jaming to stash. heads up - the e diminished you are talking about is actually an a7b9 chord. you'r playing the upper extensions of that A chord which is functionaning as a dominant leading you back to the Dm. if you take the 3rd 5th, 7th and b9 of an a7b9 chord, it will be the notes c# (or Db), e, Bb, and Gb (which is also e diminshed.
the Em7b5 ---> A7b9 ---->Dm is a minor ii-V-i
Thank you so much I'm pissed that I just now found this. Anyway I really appreciate your breakdown of the song because when ever I learn a lead part I like to know what I'm playing over and you are right no one else has done that even to this day. Ill throw you a bone when I'm not so broke.
Very cool! Thanks for this ❤ also, love the p90s
One of my go-to stress relief riffs. I just get those four chords going on a loop and go to town.
Absolutely awesome lesson. That diminished chord/scale is a game changer. I hear a bit of Slipknot in there. Can we get a diminished chord/slipknot lesson one day? Thanks for you do!
Thanks Sooo much for the Phish and Dead stuff.Over the years we had many configurations that jammed in my basement,did a few gigs under many different names.We covered Southern rock to Grateful Dead,but I have to say playing Phish was the most fun,Antelope,ChalkDust,Down With Disease,etc.and we had a friend that figured out the riffs to Stash in a week.Mike M. was our secret weapon!The drummer and bass player were brothers and the drummer attended Berkley for a few yrs.,talk about a tight rhythm section!Birds of A Feather was also a lot of fun. Thanks Again Happy Holidays!!
Wow. Thanks for that. Far and away the best Trey/Phish lesson out there. Pt phish discussion link you to this and you now have a new subscriber. Can we get a Tela break down please? Peace and thanks again
excellent job! much, much, much better explanation and actually correct! the video I've been looking for!
This is definitely the most accurate explanation of this song and trey's approach as a whole, but some of those other vids do provide some useful tidbits (like the harmonic minor). I appreciate what you're doing here, and only wish you had done this 2 years ago and you would have saved me a lot of grief. I look forward to you explaining a lot of different songs and jams like this, if you're consistent then your channel should take off. RUclips needs a dedicated trey jedi guitar tricks disciple.
A Live One's STASH is the best version they've ever played.
Not even close. U should prob check out the Amsterdam version.
@@Trey7105 Louisville in '93 was HOT
Nice Job solving this solo secret!
Thanks for taking the music of Phish seriously. Trey's soloing has always intrigued me - not to mention the many phases he's went through: from the frenetic frenzies of 93 to the outer space cow funk of 98, these four dudes have evolved and matured as players WAY more than people give them credit for. Great videos, brother. Rock on.
Great Job on this video! Its funny because I always thought the 4th chord was A7 and now i know its E dim. Know I can hear it clear as day and know to use a e dim arpeggio on the 4th chord when soloing. The only thing I didn't agree with is when you said there is no such thing as D minor. There totally is! It may be related to F Major and F is the scale its based on ( I think of it as its parent scale) but D is the 1 chord when your in d minor.
Just ran into this video, great work.....was looking for someone like you back 9 years ago when I was driving to Vermont just to see a G2 in a guitar shop window!
Dude, really loving the videos. Keep it up. Very inspiring for some of us who have always struggled with learning scales. Would love to see a video breaking down Sand. I'm going to watch all of your videos over and over until I nail them all. Thanks for sharing you're knowledge with the rest of us. You are the man.
Fantastic lesson! I'm just getting back into playing electric after only owning an acoustic guitar for a long while, and I had a blast playing this last night. Looking forward to getting caught up on the rest of the videos!
Clicked cuz the thumbnail looked like tom segura and i didnt know he played guitar let alone was phishy, subbed for the content. rock on brother
OMG. Thanks so much, completely increased my understanding of how to play. great work!
Awesome video! so happy I found your channel. Would be great to see some dead stuff, maybe some of the more spacey jams like dark star or playin
I feel like I am actually learning now. You explanation of tension was so sublime. Made a loop with 4 bars of tension chord, then 8, whew, what fun!
The people...aka Phish 😂❤
I couldn't even wait to finish the video I had to say you're awesome man!! I cant wait to check out more of your videos! 🤘🤘🙌✌✌
The Live One Stash crescendo at 11:34 slays me every. Single. Time.
Every Time!
Hey man, great job on this video. You broke it down into segmentation and correctly presented the chord structure. Best stash instructional I've seen. Props
love the explanation of treys head movements during that extended E diminished lol. small details like that make this video great. always interested in how exactly theyre able to communicate with eachother up there. keep the phish vids comin!
Your awesome dude.can you post the intro riff.was trying to learn it don't think it's right tho
Stash is all about tension... They can dig deep into the tension for a great amount of time just to get that huge release. Love the vid!
Ian I have to hand it to you (and I'm sure you know this) but you are a phantastic teacher and this is helping so much.
Hey man, thank you for video. I dig the approach and I think its gonna help me as a player. Cheers!
Hey I like your videos. I always loved the jams in Divided Sky, could you do a video on that one please?
Thanks for the well thought out explanation. Much appreciated
Im glad you re there, you've made the journey I am on.
You've been a big help
Finally watched this, and it's great! Your enthusiasm is contagious ;)
Very nice!!! Not sure how it is that I never realized this on my own.
Amazing lesson - many thanks!
+Austin Cottrell this exact lesson was the reason for starting my RUclips channel. Glad you enjoyed it!
yes and yes
Loved your video bro, very informative. I knew I was playing the chords correctly and I'm pretty fluent with some scales and modes, but that tension and release is exactly what I'm striving to understand, I've had a fuzzy picture of what tension and release is and how to inject those concepts into my playing, but you have clarified and crystallized my understanding a little more, thanks for taking the time to do this. Peace
you pulled me from my crystal haze ....lol
absolutely phantastic. Well done sir.
what's your name? We used to rage it years ago..... It's lee Price
good lesson here man.. trey uses that diminished scale everywhere in the song. I'm surprised you just went over that little box of diminished tones on the bottom 3 instead of showing the whole scale. like the two runs trey does to get back to the melody. not knockin your lesson. it was far more superior then the other stash ones on the tube. . also. . i have a request. how bout a ya mar solo lesson :) the way 80s and 90s trey used to solo thru the last vamp with all those arpeggios always gave me chills.. thx! and keep em commin!
thx! u da man! was just going thru reddit and seen your post..
been playing everyday for 25yrs n haven't picked up my git box in about a mo.. thx for the inspiration. :D
If you could post a lesson on Free by Phish, I'd appreciate so much dude!! Thanks again for you time 👍👍👍👍
Hey thanks for your amazing response time, but yes brother the meat of the song. When you get some time of coarse!! I'm your biggest youtube fan lol
Really really great video. A+ all the way around.
Very nice channel Ian - you have a deadhead fan here!
Really great videos! Can you explain exactly why that one chord builds tension? What is it about those notes that build the tension?
That makes a bit of sense. Thanks for explaining things so well! Your videos are really helpful for understanding theory. Keep up the great work!
Great stuff!! Loved the tension build explanation. Totally correct.
Rick Ross thanks! So glad you enjoyed it!
Killer lesson, thank you Ian!
Keep up the videos - they're very good.
Amazing, thank-you!!!
Hey, you're good! I learned a ton here.
Awesome, thanks! :)
good one well done. well explained
This is really great man!
Can we see an Axilla lesson?
Thank you for this
Top Notch! Thank you!
Thanks so much for your videos. For someone who is trying to get back into guitar to learn Phish is there anything you recommend on getting started? Thanks again!
+stichmethod guitar Any good phish songs to learn first? I feel like stash would take me a while to get down. Is there anything that would be good to practice on a daily basis. I know this is a pretty broad question but I guess I am just not 100% sure on where to start with learning Phish material. Thanks
I started by breaking my guitar
very crunchy
Great video
All these people going so nuts over this like its the holy grail and he doesn't even get he chord changes right. Context, man. Even if Trey plays E fully diminished after the E half diminished you have to take into account that Mike is playing an A underneath that making the E fully diminished function as the extensions of an A7b9. cmon...... It's a minor 2-5.
You do realize that A, yup you are correct and B, doesn’t effect the outcome on how to solo correctly over the song. With your added knowledge here, how would the solo change?
The important point is A- the changes you are explaining to the world are incorrect in the context of what the entire band is playing, and B you missed a great opportunity to explain to folks how playing a different chord shape over what should be A7b9 gives you the upper extensions of the chord. Trey knew how to arrange for the band especially at this time, and in isolating his part from the whole you have completely misrepresented the actual chord changes of the song!
And how does that change how to solo over the song? I have addressed that chord change multiple times in the comments, which all got erased when I had to move my channel. But you would have seen them but they are gone. But the arpeggios of that moment that built the tension are exactly the same and doesn’t effect the outcome of how to solo over Stash.
Oh and one more thing, I forgot where I said it either in this video or maybe a live feed, but yes Mike totally plays the A underneath, but Trey to the best of my knowledge keeps the fingering on guitar to the Dim and let’s Mike at the A to create the total chord. I get that totally. But the Diminished arpeggios at that moment are potato potahto, I haven’t watched this video in a long time, do I mention the A7b9? At all , I remember saying something like the tabs say it but from the soloing perspective we are going to use the E full diminished.... I can’t remember
IT DOES! Because the chord is an A7!!!!! A7 gives you a much larger range of possibilities than does E diminished! E diminished or the dominant diminished scale is only ONE option of possible alterations to an A altered dominant, so good luck limiting your students!
This is solid instruction. I love the pace....Thank you!