I got that woodland issued when I went in back in '19. Then we switched back over to the old Nano after basic. The rumor was, at the time, that Erdoğan gave one of his buddies a contract to make uniforms. And if you know anything about the Erdoğan administration, that's the Occam's razor answer.
Erdogan can give it tho whoever he wants , The army command wouldnt accept it if they didnt have an idea on using it . Erdogan has alot of power that doesnt mean he doesnt listen advice from his advisors . Thats also why the pattern is gone now .
@@mkbijnaam8713 uh-huh. Yeah, totally. The army told Erdoğan to give his buddy a contract to manufacture a knock-off of French camo. Man, shut the fuck up.
Thats not how Occam's razor is supposed to be used but i understand it. You should've used the word "rumor" instead of Occam's razor. Both of them are equally unsubstantiated but used for different settings🙏
I was in northern Iraq in 2010. There was a Turkish liaison officer stationed at the base I was at that wore a uniform I remember looking like arid tiger stripe but had a very yellow hue. I’ve always been curious about the origin and use of that pattern but have never seen it since.
@@huitzplochit I did check camopedia. It was nowhere to be see. It must have been some sort of nonstandard pattern. The guy wearing it wasn’t exactly special ops either. He was more of a 50 something bureaucrat type. Maybe it started out as arid tiger stripe and he didn’t follow washing instructions. 😄 I actually doubt that’s true but memory of it is also getting old. I remember my impression of it but if I saw it today it probably wouldn’t look exactly as I remember it.
As a Turk I hated the camo pattern and the design of the uniform throughout my military service. It felt very old fashioned and the neck area of the uniform looked so bad that during photoshoots I used a thermal scarf to disguise it(which is forbidden but not enforced in most areas). While the pants were comfortable and didn't let much cold in, I found that the shirt let so much cold in from the neck area and it had no wool in it which made it impossible stay warm if you were standing post out in the cold. Looking at the photos that were taken during my service, one couldn't distinguish if I went there during 1970s. The zipper pockets also had around 7-8 cigarette butts from the person who used the uniform formerly, but it was a good lesson for most to not litter and some even had letters written for us from those that did their military service prior to ours(they were washed with the letters still inside but I think the material was of good water resistant quality that nothing inside was wet, while the sleeves of the coat were somewhat soggy!). I believe most of those camos are now going to equip the Somalian soldiers which is the reason some of their commando units can be seen wearing the Turkish camo.
@@Saturnit3 im pretty sure that all turkish soldiers get issued brand new uniforms and boots, not reused ones. Things like helmets on the other hand are reused
@@abbcc5996 I found cigarette butts in my jacket and the pants I was issued. They're reused for paid bedelli conscripts, which I was a part of. Probably only the conscripts' ones are reused.
@@abbcc5996yeah back then the army was mostly consisting of conscripts. Nowadays the army is professionalized and conscripts are just a small part of the army.
Bende bir Türk olarak diyorumki, umarım bu durum seni hasta etmemiştir. Oysa bir dilekçe verip, ben evimde annemin yanın askerlik yapmak istiyorum. Diyebilirdin. Sayın Türk
as someone served wearing those and been in the woods with more than 10 countries' personnel, nano is the best camo ever. I had difficulty seeing my friendlies who were about 50 meters away from me laying around the trees.
It looks similar to Olja, a Russian pattern developed from A-TACS FG but with sharper edges to give it more depth. Obviously not the same but both fall in between the traditional high contrast sharp edge patterns and the very blurry A-TACS pattenrs.
@@cundan0484nowadays every camo looks like each other after seeing hundreds of hours of Rus-Ukranian war since 2014 I still cannot differentiate who is who without arm bands (at least around 2014 it was only red and yellow nowadays there are blues and greens too)
Some details on the July 15th coup: In around 2008-2009, Erdoğan (Allied with Gülen at the time) framed many high ranking Kemalist leaning officers with the help of Gülen. The officers were purged and replaced by Gülenists. (Ergenekon-Balyoz trials) These Gülenist officers were the ones doing the last coup. Ironically Erdoğan was fearing a coup at the time of 2008 because he was dismantling the "oppressive" secular state and an e-memorandum was released by the Chief of Staff at the time.
This is pure lie. Gulen was always in conflict with Erdogan, one of his talks he mentioned how Erdogan hates his group and that hatred started far before 2008.
@@__user__name__ There are photos of Erdogan sitting at the skirt of Gulen and speeches of him praising Gulen and asking for his return from exile in the US. He openly supported Gulen's foundations, schools and specifically his newspaper Zaman. Zaman was distributed for free to many households, without consent, in the expense of taxpayers. He turned a blind eye and/or openly supported the nepotism in the Army in the expense of Kemalist officers who actually cared about the country and it's security. Me and many other people in radio, tv and journalism businesses lost their jobs with no hope to find a proper one thanks to Erdogan's purge of free media in order to replace it with Gulenist counterparts. It was impossible to find a job in the government sector unless you either knew someone from the Gulenist movement or Erdogan's clique. They fell apart because narcissistic power-hungry psychopaths do what narcissistic power-hungry psychopaths do best, and see anything and everything as their enemy and they will always crave more.
@@__user__name__ Lies? Lol no. He was saying stuff like "We miss you hocaefendi please come back." in tears back in the day all the time. Erdoğan literally owes his inital power gain to him. Gülen and Erdoğan are the same shit, one just sucks up to the US more. Islamists are a threat to Turkish democracy and the founding ideals of the republic, it doesn't matter which side they are on.
Kemalist were also puppets of US. Remember who did military coup at 1980? Remember Cevik Bir who was in love with US and Israel. You know nothing but apt at slandering...
The relationship between Gulen's movement and Erdogan fell apart in 2013, but by then, they had already infiltrated the government and military. Their schools were widespread, to the point where it became difficult to find secular schools in some regions. The most successful students were offered financial support and resources to integrate them into the movement. They were required to attend prayers and undergo indoctrination. The events of 2016 weren't even a coup-it was more of a purge. The movement believed that Kemalists who opposed Erdogan would support the coup, which is why they referenced Ataturk's words. However, the highest-ranking officials had no idea about the coup, and some were even detained by lower-ranking soldiers. After the event, many members of the movement in key positions switched sides. Those involved in politics remain largely untouchable, as prosecuting them would implicate the AKP as well. It's important to remember that both sides, the Gulen movement and AKP, have caused significant harm. The Gulen movement has long been considered a project of the U.S. to create a "green curtain" between Russia and the Greater Middle East, and AKP's power and wealth initially stemmed from U.S. support through Gulen. Hopefully, we will see a brighter future without either of them.
@TurquazCannabiz There are other candidates but yeah. Imamoglu seems like a terrible idea. To me, he just seems like a western pawn. Afterall that's what Biden said, he said they will work with the opposition in Türkiye. If the leader of your country is placed by someone else, then they have none of your interests at heart. But even talking about replacement, if the AKP wins again, who will be the one to take Erdoğan's place. It seems like it will be that Kurdish/Turkish intelligence agency guy, Hakan Fidan.
@@chewbacca3269 Getting a direct source on stuff like these would require web archive to see old posts on newspapers etc. However , Erdogans horrendously bad track record can be indirectly understood in Donald Trump's letter to Erdogan during Bishop Brunson crisis. Guy literally called out a president of an another country with personal phrases(You I ) with threatening words without a significant backlash. Even if this US we are talking about , this isnt a common occurence.
@oogabooga-o5c Tbh you are talking about Trump. A very unpredictable dude. Very peculiar president compared to the others. So considering this fact about Trump. This letter isn't really that special. Even though I haven't read the letter myself... And you're claiming getting a direct source for this is difficult but then where does this info come from? Or is it extrapolating various different info and interpreted as something that would fit one narrative?...
Ive been wanting brent0331 to give this pattern a camoflauge effectiveness test too, esp right now during the fall when the vegetation is turning brown and dry
Love the "The History of ..." series! 😍But I could never find one about (British) DPM? Please do one on that (or point me to it, if it already exists). After all it's a pretty major and influential one.
Just orderd my set of the Turkish woodland M-2018 which should work well in the foothills & cascades region of California. Need to locate the under armor battle shirt and of course any available web gear.
You should definitely make more videos about other Turkish uniforms, there are lots of unique ones both newer and older ones such as Aegean Camo in 70's
The negative feedback coming instantly is very true, They used to sell 2018 pattern shirts and parkas for like 5 dollars yet we wouldn't buy them. Me personally I liked the 2008 nano pattern, and also like the newest 2020 land forces "new nano" camouflage pattern. Here in Türkiye the newest 2020 pattern is called KKK (Kara Kuvvetleri Kamuflajı), or Land Forces Camouflage in English.
@@JusufBideovicplease note that the first K "kara" Also means "black".😂 If you have no clue, It can easily be translated as "black forces camouflage"
Thanks for this video! Was awesome. The Nano has only one setback it fades to one big blur other than that very good for turkish terrain though boeing in Turkey think Atacs AU would do an even better job.
Спасибо за видео!😊👍 По турецкой форме очень мало информации, поэтому ваш ролик является уникальным. Когда политика влияет на стратегию - это нормально, но когда на тактику - это почти всегда плохо😏 Странно что турки изобретали новый камуфляж, а не приняли на снабжение давно отработанную и очень популярную в NATO расцветку "multicam"🤷♂️ Мне не особо нравится этот камуфляж и я считаю что специализированные расцветки лучше работают в своих климатических зонах, чем "универсальные" сразу во всех. Но, это было бы простым и очевидным решением, т.к. группы быстрого реагирования многих стран применяют этот камуфляж для более-менее успешной маскировки в разных климатическиз зонах. В то время как линейные военнослужащие носят расцветки, привязанные конкретно к месту их службы.
How can a person make a whole video about a countries camo patterns, explain the political situation and still get that countries capital wrong. The fact that he calls İstanbul capital of Turkey is simply moronic. Otherwise, great video.
Being in a hurry, I think it was smart of Turkey to modify France's "woodland type" camo by incorporating the black into the brown. I wore US Woodland during my time in the US Army in the 1980's, and even then thought that black has NO place in camo uniforms. Shadows (black) create themselves.
Maybe, but the country has history with many coups. The only difference bering the ratio of Kemalists to non Kemalists. Whats making less sense is that preacher Gulens involvement. But who knows.
Well researched video. 👍 I really could not distinguish the difference but some people noted that turkish gendarme camouflage and the similar one used by Azari army have a slightly more appealing view. For me all look the same which suggests the camouflage are indeed working 😂
The newer one does a better job as a camouflage pattern. It does resemble ATACS FG but more sharper but at least we didn't get the M2018 in the army anymore. Hopefully it will stay so
I kinda like the interim 2018... possibly because of its similarity to the French. Old nano seems to always be faded to a grey mess that resembles UCP. New nano is looking like the new CADPAT MT.
i did not use this camouflage when i was in the military in 2022. Recruits who do their military service for one month use it, those who do compulsory military service for six months like me do not use this camouflage (And only some professional soldiers use it)
That's a interesting take on compulsory service. How do you do a single month enlistment? Even the six months is particularly short but you could get a reasonable level of competency in basic weapons handling, field craft and communication maybe even intermediate levels. But a month you can't teach a newly hired McDonald's employee to even handle a single job in a month and expect them to work effectively. Let alone handle weapon's and work under any sort of combat like conditions. 😅
@@DanielVisOneCade yea. Program was actually very cramped with lots of things but it is never applied since higher ups don't want to give an effort for a month old soldiers. So not much except shooting. The rationalite behind this,in my opinion, is compulsory service is so distruptive for civilian life and you can't just remove it in Turkiye.
@@DanielVisOneCade Its a major case of socio-economic divide within the nation. The rich are really rich and few while the poor are really poor and numerous so much so that even compulsory service divides us.
@@DanielVisOneCade I received my education well, I did my duty in the KTBK, I was a mortar marksman KTBK, that is, the Turkish Cypriot Peacekeepers are different from the Turkish Armed Forces, and there are constant exercises and training, because there is still a war situation on the island of Cyprus, have a good day
The other reason why I brought it out was because it was cheaper to produce Walther experimenting to properly replace an equipment with proper camouflage uniforms they probably make this one as like he said stop Gap solution they probably just need to make something quick and fast to accept everybody to replace the old controversial piece ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ but hey that's just my personal thoughts
Turkey didn’t just get involved they went after Kurds forcing america to step back from working with Kurds who have their own funny Chinese copy of marpat.
that camo was the worst ever, It lacked most of features the other camos have. I hated wearing it during my 18 days conscription. I was like a bag of potato because quartermaster didn't want to climb to top shelf to pick up two size smaller one. Used ones allegedly was sent to Syria for FSA.
You missed to say that Fetullah gülen he is hosted in secured compound in states. Or you miss that unintentionally 😅you are making me loathing me so much. You are missing that since funding Turkey never played the game of Zionism . You have to read a bit more about Turkish history. Just about 3000 years before States were established.
Kemalist are better than gulenist As a Erdoganist i have no hate against them as long as they are not again in power 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Long live Erdogan ❤
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I got that woodland issued when I went in back in '19. Then we switched back over to the old Nano after basic.
The rumor was, at the time, that Erdoğan gave one of his buddies a contract to make uniforms. And if you know anything about the Erdoğan administration, that's the Occam's razor answer.
now the syrian national army and the somalian army uses it
Erdogan can give it tho whoever he wants , The army command wouldnt accept it if they didnt have an idea on using it . Erdogan has alot of power that doesnt mean he doesnt listen advice from his advisors . Thats also why the pattern is gone now .
@@mkbijnaam8713 uh-huh. Yeah, totally. The army told Erdoğan to give his buddy a contract to manufacture a knock-off of French camo.
Man, shut the fuck up.
Stop making up something out of your a...
Thats not how Occam's razor is supposed to be used but i understand it. You should've used the word "rumor" instead of Occam's razor. Both of them are equally unsubstantiated but used for different settings🙏
Small correction for 3:03 : Ankara is the capital of Turkey, Istanbul is the largest city.
You just said what I was about to say
These Americans are really grossly ignorant.
Lol I stopped watching the video at that point. If he can’t even get the capital right, everything else he says is irrelevant
@@TurquazCannabizwhat is the capital of Canada ?
@@Whiskers4169 he did not make a whole video about canadian army uniforms so he does not need to know that. The answer is Ottawa by the way
I was in northern Iraq in 2010. There was a Turkish liaison officer stationed at the base I was at that wore a uniform I remember looking like arid tiger stripe but had a very yellow hue. I’ve always been curious about the origin and use of that pattern but have never seen it since.
Have you checked camopedia?
@@huitzplochit I did check camopedia. It was nowhere to be see. It must have been some sort of nonstandard pattern. The guy wearing it wasn’t exactly special ops either. He was more of a 50 something bureaucrat type. Maybe it started out as arid tiger stripe and he didn’t follow washing instructions. 😄 I actually doubt that’s true but memory of it is also getting old. I remember my impression of it but if I saw it today it probably wouldn’t look exactly as I remember it.
@@judelarkin2883I can try to help you find it, if you give me more information. Was he in the army or airforce?
@@cemblabla jandarmayı diyor büyük ihtimal
Turkish gendarmerie camouflage
As a Turk I hated the camo pattern and the design of the uniform throughout my military service. It felt very old fashioned and the neck area of the uniform looked so bad that during photoshoots I used a thermal scarf to disguise it(which is forbidden but not enforced in most areas). While the pants were comfortable and didn't let much cold in, I found that the shirt let so much cold in from the neck area and it had no wool in it which made it impossible stay warm if you were standing post out in the cold.
Looking at the photos that were taken during my service, one couldn't distinguish if I went there during 1970s. The zipper pockets also had around 7-8 cigarette butts from the person who used the uniform formerly, but it was a good lesson for most to not litter and some even had letters written for us from those that did their military service prior to ours(they were washed with the letters still inside but I think the material was of good water resistant quality that nothing inside was wet, while the sleeves of the coat were somewhat soggy!). I believe most of those camos are now going to equip the Somalian soldiers which is the reason some of their commando units can be seen wearing the Turkish camo.
@@Saturnit3 im pretty sure that all turkish soldiers get issued brand new uniforms and boots, not reused ones. Things like helmets on the other hand are reused
@@abbcc5996 I found cigarette butts in my jacket and the pants I was issued. They're reused for paid bedelli conscripts, which I was a part of. Probably only the conscripts' ones are reused.
@@abbcc5996yeah back then the army was mostly consisting of conscripts. Nowadays the army is professionalized and conscripts are just a small part of the army.
Bende bir Türk olarak diyorumki, umarım bu durum seni hasta etmemiştir. Oysa bir dilekçe verip, ben evimde annemin yanın askerlik yapmak istiyorum. Diyebilirdin. Sayın Türk
@@MrAdnanozkan Ne anlatıyorsun be saftirik adam?
as someone served wearing those and been in the woods with more than 10 countries' personnel, nano is the best camo ever. I had difficulty seeing my friendlies who were about 50 meters away from me laying around the trees.
The latest camouflage is very distinct and a successful at its job.
I find it vaguely similar to the Italian one
It looks similar to Olja, a Russian pattern developed from A-TACS FG but with sharper edges to give it more depth. Obviously not the same but both fall in between the traditional high contrast sharp edge patterns and the very blurry A-TACS pattenrs.
@@fridrekr7510There isn't a need to reinvent the wheel. It's a good pattern and gets job done.
@@cundan0484nowadays every camo looks like each other after seeing hundreds of hours of Rus-Ukranian war since 2014 I still cannot differentiate who is who without arm bands (at least around 2014 it was only red and yellow nowadays there are blues and greens too)
most of the countries copied eachother in camouflage, search about the multicam and how many countries use it today
Some details on the July 15th coup:
In around 2008-2009, Erdoğan (Allied with Gülen at the time) framed many high ranking Kemalist leaning officers with the help of Gülen. The officers were purged and replaced by Gülenists. (Ergenekon-Balyoz trials) These Gülenist officers were the ones doing the last coup.
Ironically Erdoğan was fearing a coup at the time of 2008 because he was dismantling the "oppressive" secular state and an e-memorandum was released by the Chief of Staff at the time.
This is pure lie. Gulen was always in conflict with Erdogan, one of his talks he mentioned how Erdogan hates his group and that hatred started far before 2008.
@@__user__name__ There are photos of Erdogan sitting at the skirt of Gulen and speeches of him praising Gulen and asking for his return from exile in the US. He openly supported Gulen's foundations, schools and specifically his newspaper Zaman. Zaman was distributed for free to many households, without consent, in the expense of taxpayers.
He turned a blind eye and/or openly supported the nepotism in the Army in the expense of Kemalist officers who actually cared about the country and it's security. Me and many other people in radio, tv and journalism businesses lost their jobs with no hope to find a proper one thanks to Erdogan's purge of free media in order to replace it with Gulenist counterparts. It was impossible to find a job in the government sector unless you either knew someone from the Gulenist movement or Erdogan's clique.
They fell apart because narcissistic power-hungry psychopaths do what narcissistic power-hungry psychopaths do best, and see anything and everything as their enemy and they will always crave more.
@@__user__name__ Lies? Lol no. He was saying stuff like "We miss you hocaefendi please come back." in tears back in the day all the time. Erdoğan literally owes his inital power gain to him. Gülen and Erdoğan are the same shit, one just sucks up to the US more. Islamists are a threat to Turkish democracy and the founding ideals of the republic, it doesn't matter which side they are on.
@@ulascancnarl7433 Utanmadan bir de Atatürkçülere fetöcü damgası atıyorlar.
Kemalist were also puppets of US. Remember who did military coup at 1980? Remember Cevik Bir who was in love with US and Israel. You know nothing but apt at slandering...
The relationship between Gulen's movement and Erdogan fell apart in 2013, but by then, they had already infiltrated the government and military. Their schools were widespread, to the point where it became difficult to find secular schools in some regions. The most successful students were offered financial support and resources to integrate them into the movement. They were required to attend prayers and undergo indoctrination. The events of 2016 weren't even a coup-it was more of a purge. The movement believed that Kemalists who opposed Erdogan would support the coup, which is why they referenced Ataturk's words. However, the highest-ranking officials had no idea about the coup, and some were even detained by lower-ranking soldiers. After the event, many members of the movement in key positions switched sides. Those involved in politics remain largely untouchable, as prosecuting them would implicate the AKP as well. It's important to remember that both sides, the Gulen movement and AKP, have caused significant harm. The Gulen movement has long been considered a project of the U.S. to create a "green curtain" between Russia and the Greater Middle East, and AKP's power and wealth initially stemmed from U.S. support through Gulen. Hopefully, we will see a brighter future without either of them.
Can I get your sources on that? I want to learn more about that...I just hope whoever replaces Erdoğan doesn't make the country a complete mess
@@chewbacca3269Imamoğlu looks like his main rival at the moment
@TurquazCannabiz There are other candidates but yeah. Imamoglu seems like a terrible idea. To me, he just seems like a western pawn. Afterall that's what Biden said, he said they will work with the opposition in Türkiye. If the leader of your country is placed by someone else, then they have none of your interests at heart. But even talking about replacement, if the AKP wins again, who will be the one to take Erdoğan's place. It seems like it will be that Kurdish/Turkish intelligence agency guy, Hakan Fidan.
@@chewbacca3269 Getting a direct source on stuff like these would require web archive to see old posts on newspapers etc. However , Erdogans horrendously bad track record can be indirectly understood in Donald Trump's letter to Erdogan during Bishop Brunson crisis. Guy literally called out a president of an another country with personal phrases(You I ) with threatening words without a significant backlash. Even if this US we are talking about , this isnt a common occurence.
@oogabooga-o5c Tbh you are talking about Trump. A very unpredictable dude. Very peculiar president compared to the others. So considering this fact about Trump. This letter isn't really that special. Even though I haven't read the letter myself...
And you're claiming getting a direct source for this is difficult but then where does this info come from? Or is it extrapolating various different info and interpreted as something that would fit one narrative?...
since it's french cce without the black, I gotta wonder how it performs exactly in practical testing, a la brent0331 videos.
I was wondering the same thing
Ive been wanting brent0331 to give this pattern a camoflauge effectiveness test too, esp right now during the fall when the vegetation is turning brown and dry
I am shocked that you studied all the political edges alongside with your main purpose of explaining camouflage. Welldone. Greetings from Turkiye.
I always liked the nano, I need to get a set.
Love the "The History of ..." series! 😍But I could never find one about (British) DPM? Please do one on that (or point me to it, if it already exists). After all it's a pretty major and influential one.
Just orderd my set of the Turkish woodland M-2018 which should work well in the foothills & cascades region of California.
Need to locate the under armor battle shirt and of course any available web gear.
Unexpected but very interesting
Thank you for this detailed research. 🙂🇹🇷😎
You should definitely make more videos about other Turkish uniforms, there are lots of unique ones both newer and older ones such as Aegean Camo in 70's
The negative feedback coming instantly is very true, They used to sell 2018 pattern shirts and parkas for like 5 dollars yet we wouldn't buy them. Me personally I liked the 2008 nano pattern, and also like the newest 2020 land forces "new nano" camouflage pattern. Here in Türkiye the newest 2020 pattern is called KKK (Kara Kuvvetleri Kamuflajı), or Land Forces Camouflage in English.
pretty funny acronym lol
the latest camouflage is cool
@@JusufBideovicplease note that the first K "kara" Also means "black".😂 If you have no clue, It can easily be translated as "black forces camouflage"
Awesome video!
That first nano pattern looks sweet, I need some for my collection. When will you do Estonians Camouflage? Also that new nano would be awesome to own.
Thanks for this video! Was awesome. The Nano has only one setback it fades to one big blur other than that very good for turkish terrain though boeing in Turkey think Atacs AU would do an even better job.
I always wonder, how you guys get all this info, pics and vids on the uniforms?
@@canoaslan1011 turkish army is very active in many countries so its easy to find info
You guys should do a review of the uniforms used in the movie “Soldier” with Kurt Russell. Tons of gear and interesting uniforms!
Thanksss from turkey i loved this video
Ömer, abicim Turkey degil, Türkiye yaz bundan sonra.
@@metehangokturk9696 doğru diyorsun abicim değiştiğini unuttum.Alışkanlık işte
@@omerardakoseoglu3123 😉
@@omerardakoseoglu3123 .. 😉
Please next video: Peruvian Geometrical Camouflage 🙌 it's very vintage.
Next Video:DPM And its many variations pls
The Haitian Armed Forces went from a woodland MARPAT variant to a M71 Woodland variant. Questionable to say the least.
keep up the good work
Спасибо за видео!😊👍
По турецкой форме очень мало информации, поэтому ваш ролик является уникальным.
Когда политика влияет на стратегию - это нормально, но когда на тактику - это почти всегда плохо😏
Странно что турки изобретали новый камуфляж, а не приняли на снабжение давно отработанную и очень популярную в NATO расцветку "multicam"🤷♂️
Мне не особо нравится этот камуфляж и я считаю что специализированные расцветки лучше работают в своих климатических зонах, чем "универсальные" сразу во всех.
Но, это было бы простым и очевидным решением, т.к. группы быстрого реагирования многих стран применяют этот камуфляж для более-менее успешной маскировки в разных климатическиз зонах.
В то время как линейные военнослужащие носят расцветки, привязанные конкретно к месту их службы.
Seen a weird chinese navy camo pattern thrifting today n thought of ur vids bro stay frosty out there boys
TLDR: Make the French Central-Europe pattern in Pakistani 3-tone arid. Thankyou for coming to my TED Talk
at 00:16 - The guy on the far left..anyone got a Name for that pattern?
Yes
How can a person make a whole video about a countries camo patterns, explain the political situation and still get that countries capital wrong. The fact that he calls İstanbul capital of Turkey is simply moronic. Otherwise, great video.
Fun fact:m2018 camo is used by bedellis(people who payed money to be in army for a shorter time)
Love the history of Turkey intertwined into the subject of this video, great work, very interesting
Being in a hurry, I think it was smart of Turkey to modify France's "woodland type" camo by incorporating the black into the brown.
I wore US Woodland during my time in the US Army in the 1980's, and even then thought that black has NO place in camo uniforms. Shadows (black) create themselves.
With how confused a lot of soldiers were, plus how widespread the purge was, I’m still not 110% convinced the coup attempt wasn’t staged
The fact they had a long list t of people in 24 hours was very suspect, paired with the rigged elections after.
Maybe, but the country has history with many coups. The only difference bering the ratio of Kemalists to non Kemalists. Whats making less sense is that preacher Gulens involvement. But who knows.
If Erdogan had power to stage such a coup, he wouldn't need the coup in the first place.
It was not
It was 100% staged
Do you think there is enough publicly available info & available pieces to do a video on croatian and bosnian production of woodland camo in the 90s?
Can you do an episode about camoflage pattern of the indian army?
I saw a cap in the video.
Was head dress in the pattern issued at all?
I haven't been able to find any surplus anywhere.
Looks a bit like the french camo.
Well researched video. 👍 I really could not distinguish the difference but some people noted that turkish gendarme camouflage and the similar one used by Azari army have a slightly more appealing view. For me all look the same which suggests the camouflage are indeed working 😂
The newer one does a better job as a camouflage pattern. It does resemble ATACS FG but more sharper but at least we didn't get the M2018 in the army anymore. Hopefully it will stay so
do a video on Pakistan's semi pixelated camo pattern and the history of the uniforms used by the armed forces
Come for the uniforms, stay for the history lessons.
I kinda like the interim 2018... possibly because of its similarity to the French. Old nano seems to always be faded to a grey mess that resembles UCP. New nano is looking like the new CADPAT MT.
The Last Uniform of Turkish Army is much effective. 👍🇹🇷
Air Force new nano is cool af tho
i did not use this camouflage when i was in the military in 2022. Recruits who do their military service for one month use it, those who do compulsory military service for six months like me do not use this camouflage (And only some professional soldiers use it)
That's a interesting take on compulsory service.
How do you do a single month enlistment?
Even the six months is particularly short but you could get a reasonable level of competency in basic weapons handling, field craft and communication maybe even intermediate levels.
But a month you can't teach a newly hired McDonald's employee to even handle a single job in a month and expect them to work effectively. Let alone handle weapon's and work under any sort of combat like conditions. 😅
@@DanielVisOneCade yea. Program was actually very cramped with lots of things but it is never applied since higher ups don't want to give an effort for a month old soldiers. So not much except shooting. The rationalite behind this,in my opinion, is compulsory service is so distruptive for civilian life and you can't just remove it in Turkiye.
@@DanielVisOneCade Its a major case of socio-economic divide within the nation. The rich are really rich and few while the poor are really poor and numerous so much so that even compulsory service divides us.
@@DanielVisOneCade I received my education well, I did my duty in the KTBK, I was a mortar marksman KTBK, that is, the Turkish Cypriot Peacekeepers are different from the Turkish Armed Forces, and there are constant exercises and training, because there is still a war situation on the island of Cyprus, have a good day
This camo reminds me of the Indian camo
Kindly Do one about new indian army uniform.
-Uniform 64 approachin station area
The other reason why I brought it out was because it was cheaper to produce
Walther experimenting to properly replace an equipment with proper camouflage uniforms they probably make this one as like he said stop Gap solution they probably just need to make something quick and fast to accept everybody to replace the old controversial piece ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ but hey that's just my personal thoughts
Turkey didn’t just get involved they went after Kurds forcing america to step back from working with Kurds who have their own funny Chinese copy of marpat.
It looks fine. Get it dirty and blend right in.
that camo was the worst ever, It lacked most of features the other camos have. I hated wearing it during my 18 days conscription. I was like a bag of potato because quartermaster didn't want to climb to top shelf to pick up two size smaller one. Used ones allegedly was sent to Syria for FSA.
as a turkish peson i think this is one of the worst camos we made i think we should have keeo going with m2008 until this new camo
that's badass how the citizens won
From a Uniform you made such a political statement That excludes you from any further career in the US army.
Most of this camo in Ukraine probably followed the Syrian fighters who switched conflicts.
@@Shatnerpossum ukraine soldiers were really using surplus in the early days of the invasion
You missed to say that Fetullah gülen he is hosted in secured compound in states. Or you miss that unintentionally 😅you are making me loathing me so much. You are missing that since funding Turkey never played the game of Zionism . You have to read a bit more about Turkish history. Just about 3000 years before States were established.
probably one of the worst decisions the MoD made. It was utter garbage.
You must be american. İstanbul isnt the capital never was. Ankara is
“Progressive”
Its now used for the "paid military service" soldiers, lol
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I'm an Erdogan supporter, but Erdogan in that uniform looks like a rookie soldier. He is always good looking in the fine suits.
Your definition of gülen movement must be a joke.
Coup from CIA😂
Initially "It looks like a rip-off of French uniform patterns".
Kemalist are better than gulenist
As a Erdoganist i have no hate against them as long as they are not again in power 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Long live Erdogan ❤
Lira worth dirt lol