I do a (mostly) weekly Patron-exclusive podcast. Available to all supporters on Patreon: patreon.com/thelinuxcast 0:00 Intro 1:30 The UI 1:40 The Markdown 5:03 Notebooks 6:28 Troubles with Sync 9:40 Settings 13:32 Searching 14:06 Built In Spell Check 14:11 Encryption 14:35 Missing Features 15:04 Final Thoughts
Yes, you can first create a folder in NextCloud, and write the name of the folder behind the URL of the WebDav during setup. All your files will be dumped and synced into that folder.
Joplin is a FOSS, available in Linux, sync seemlessly with Nextcloud, and it has vum mode. Joplin is flexible, it can cope with both Markdown and Markup, Math formula, Chemistry Formula.
Yes, you can first create a folder in NextCloud, and write the name of the folder behind the URL of the WebDav during setup. All your files will be dumped and synced into that folder.
Agreed. It demands to save in my 'C' drive, where software lives, and not in my 'D' drive, where files live. No good for me. Pity, looked OK. I'm looking at Anytype, and might re-visit Obsidian. I left Evernote as its price went up and it lost features I like. I might end up go back to my old faithful Zoot from Zoot Software! Quirky but cool.
I use Joplin on my Linux Desktop and Android and having tried other note-taking apps, IMHO Joplin is the best. For nested notebooks, just right-click on the parent notebook.
I just started using Joplin last week. I didn't go with Obsidian because it's not FOSS, and I have no use for that mind-mapping stuff. I've been without a note taking application ever since I gave up on Evernote many years ago, so my notes have just been a mess of .txt and .odf fules floating around on my harddrive and Dropbox. Anyway, so far I'm very happy with Joplin. I sync using Dropbox and though slow, that's fine. So yeah, Joplin works. 👍
File System Sync to a second local directory, then syncthing that with your other computers. Those Joplins should File System Sync in the syncthing sync'd files. Does require some manual kickoffs of syncs, and risk of conflicts though. If one is careful, it's perfect.
Logseq turned out to be much nicer for me. At lest it just outputs .md files i can sync easily. It's a bit more complicated, more on the "second brain" type of apps, but it's not obsidian either.
Thank s for the review. I stated with Obsidian (tried it - and then just left it alone without using), and moved Joplin, which I use on several devices. What I found is that I don't want the same DB for all, instead I'd rather backup my individual DBs. I found that for me, there is marginal overlap between how I use my desktops - laptops and mobiles. For now I don't really use NAS as an automatic mode thing, I'd rather back things up manually, on a schedule.
I tried just about every markdown editor out there and settled on Joplin...for a while. The main sticking point for me was that I wanted to have complete control of my files and an interface that gets out of my way and lets me write. While Joplin was a joy to use, it missed the mark a tad, so I went looking again for that perfect markdown editor. I revisited Typora and found that it checked the boxes for me. A nice clean interface that stays out of my way. Complete control of my files. I store my markdown files on a cloud drive (DropBox) and use a secondary cloud drive (Sync) as backup. I'll most likely never reach my limit on cloud storage with .md files, and even if I do there is always compression. Joplin is great software. I would've stuck with it if not for the few points of contention. For clarification, I use Typora for markdown specifically, which is what I write all documents and forum posts in. I use a text editor for notes that don't require formatting.
I have a home server and I have it setup with bookstack container for centralized note taking. Works great for me. If you have a home server, that might be a good option. It also supports Markdown.
Alternative opinion regarding the .md files being not "useable" outside of joplin. I actually prefer it that way since it prevents any sync hosts from scanning the contents of the file (am using google drive atm). I also have my notes encrypted anyway so everythig is gibberish too.
I'm with Joplin for about half of year now. It's...ok..so far. My biggest funny problem is that I also need to use it on old Win 10 32bit and this version of Joplin doesn't work for more than 3 years, lol :(
Your relationship with obsidian as being a markdown editor is incredibly amusing to me. Though, I found it strange that you found Joplin simpler cause it looks way more cluttered to me. I'm not sure how well this would work with Joplin because I don't use it, but if you wanted to do synchronization between multiple devices, putting it on a nas is a great solution *hint hint, nudge nudge*. Then you can use the encryption feature and a separate synchronization service to keep a backup version in the cloud in case anything goes wrong. Thats what I do.
@@samucancld , you can have nothing but your note (and in the formatted view, not the two-pane Joplin does) on the screen. Are you taking about features?
I used Joplin as my main Note apps before now Im using Obsidian. I was too lazy and didn't have time/money to use and configure obsidian synchronization. My prioritize was to make every device I have are synced freely. And Joplin worked for me, synchronization between devices seemed flawless. I didn't have to install any plugins (Yes you couldn't open notes outside the app) Then I tried Obsidian for 2nd time and make everything works by learning curve. I switched since. Joplin is good and the best free synced notes app when you don't want to configure anything. #pardonmyenglish
I am a little out of touch. I was hurt in work then also I used to use Google Podcasts, which no longer exists but didn’t you have a couple people on your program previous they were regulars? Anyway im so glad i found you. I appreciate your experience
There's Obsidian next.....long long distance then Joplin, Standard Notes and other. I was using Joplin long time but comparing to Obisidan and its all plugins.... oh man, the sky is the limit.
I've found Joplin OK for simple notes, which is what I use it for. I prefer Obsidian for my real note-taking regarding coding, design, writing, etc... Obsidian just feels and functions better all around than Joplin for what I need and for how I work. Joplin doesn't feel as professional. I use Syncthing for synchronizing Joplin and Obsidian notes.
That weird thing that Joplin does on file names is ultimately what drove me away from it and to Obsidian. You know your file is in there somewhere, but finding it way too hard.
Joplin stores the notes in an SQLite database, not as separate text files. Only for the purpose of syncing, it exports these data into these "weird" text files. These are imported into the SQLite database on the receiving site.
Great App for sure. On the brightside the app is very powerfull and have a great community/plugins. In the other side, the "always bullets list item" makes me bonkers! Some strange bugs in code copy/paste, anoy me as hell and makes me migrate to obsidian!
Yea definitely Joplin’s simpler. It’s also open-source if you value that. Other than being closed-source, tbh I prefer Obsidian in just about every way, but it depends on the use-case. Joplin is more of a… well, note taking app. And Obsidian does that too, but its power really shows when you use Obsidian to keep track of pretty much everything. Obsidian also has some nice cli tools and integrated with neovim well which I really like.
Joplin was my first proper introduction to Markdown notetaking, tbh, but I ultimately moved to Obsidian for the whole internal linking thing and with how (unlike Joplin) the note files actually save in a directory tree I can use with a plain text editor like Vim or mousepad. It's basically made my creative writing SO much easier to do for me personally, as Joplin was kinda holding me back.
Sorry this is such a bad and overly negative video. You should’ve made a new video when you figured out your sync problem, because it completely invalidates your main closing point at the end.
I think the criticisms are pretty valid. Storing everything in SQLite is very unfriendly for portability or just accessing the files outside of the app. I think I'll just stick with my structured folders of markdown files, manage them with git, and edit them in the best editor available.
Although i get it, if you don't want a powerful markup tool, but some eye candy, user friendly, KISS app = org does not make sense. But trying it for 6months, for anyone that is curious, can be life changing
I am a little out of touch. I was hurt in work then also I used to use Google Podcasts, which no longer exists but didn’t you have a couple people on your program previous they were regulars? Anyway im so glad i found you. I appreciate your experience
I do a (mostly) weekly Patron-exclusive podcast. Available to all supporters on Patreon: patreon.com/thelinuxcast
0:00 Intro
1:30 The UI
1:40 The Markdown
5:03 Notebooks
6:28 Troubles with Sync
9:40 Settings
13:32 Searching
14:06 Built In Spell Check
14:11 Encryption
14:35 Missing Features
15:04 Final Thoughts
I guess you want to pin this comment on top
You can install the **Note Link System** plugin. It will help you create links, also automatically create a list of Back Links of a note.
Yes, you can first create a folder in NextCloud, and write the name of the folder behind the URL of the WebDav during setup.
All your files will be dumped and synced into that folder.
I like using Standard Notes after trying many note-taking apps including Joplin and Obsidian.
Joplin is a FOSS, available in Linux, sync seemlessly with Nextcloud, and it has vum mode.
Joplin is flexible, it can cope with both Markdown and Markup, Math formula, Chemistry Formula.
Yes, you can first create a folder in NextCloud, and write the name of the folder behind the URL of the WebDav during setup.
All your files will be dumped and synced into that folder.
Setting up nextcloud properly with a separate folder is literally the 3rd note when you first launch it (at least on the flatpak version).
Use plugins for actual tags.. You can extend it via plugins and themes.. For nested notebook by right clicking where you need it..
The Master of Joplin has spoken!
Joplin would be perfect if it gave the user the choice via the typical File > Save As, to save their files wherever they want locally.
Agreed. It demands to save in my 'C' drive, where software lives, and not in my 'D' drive, where files live. No good for me. Pity, looked OK. I'm looking at Anytype, and might re-visit Obsidian. I left Evernote as its price went up and it lost features I like. I might end up go back to my old faithful Zoot from Zoot Software! Quirky but cool.
File > Export All > save as PDF.
@@dagwould QOwnNotes and Ghostwriter (KDE project) are good Joplin alternatives - minimalist and not opinionated.
@@dagwould On drive C, you can use a symbolic link to the notes folder, which is actually on drive D.
I use Joplin on my Linux Desktop and Android and having tried other note-taking apps, IMHO Joplin is the best. For nested notebooks, just right-click on the parent notebook.
I just started using Joplin last week. I didn't go with Obsidian because it's not FOSS, and I have no use for that mind-mapping stuff. I've been without a note taking application ever since I gave up on Evernote many years ago, so my notes have just been a mess of .txt and .odf fules floating around on my harddrive and Dropbox. Anyway, so far I'm very happy with Joplin. I sync using Dropbox and though slow, that's fine. So yeah, Joplin works. 👍
Yes, i used it for a while when i started a new job but i abandoned it because syncronizing with syncthing was hell on earth.
File System Sync to a second local directory, then syncthing that with your other computers. Those Joplins should File System Sync in the syncthing sync'd files. Does require some manual kickoffs of syncs, and risk of conflicts though. If one is careful, it's perfect.
Logseq turned out to be much nicer for me. At lest it just outputs .md files i can sync easily. It's a bit more complicated, more on the "second brain" type of apps, but it's not obsidian either.
And it's open source.
Thank s for the review. I stated with Obsidian (tried it - and then just left it alone without using), and moved Joplin, which I use on several devices. What I found is that I don't want the same DB for all, instead I'd rather backup my individual DBs. I found that for me, there is marginal overlap between how I use my desktops - laptops and mobiles. For now I don't really use NAS as an automatic mode thing, I'd rather back things up manually, on a schedule.
Joplin is my main note platform. It is great.
I tried just about every markdown editor out there and settled on Joplin...for a while. The main sticking point for me was that I wanted to have complete control of my files and an interface that gets out of my way and lets me write. While Joplin was a joy to use, it missed the mark a tad, so I went looking again for that perfect markdown editor. I revisited Typora and found that it checked the boxes for me. A nice clean interface that stays out of my way. Complete control of my files. I store my markdown files on a cloud drive (DropBox) and use a secondary cloud drive (Sync) as backup. I'll most likely never reach my limit on cloud storage with .md files, and even if I do there is always compression. Joplin is great software. I would've stuck with it if not for the few points of contention. For clarification, I use Typora for markdown specifically, which is what I write all documents and forum posts in. I use a text editor for notes that don't require formatting.
It takes few hours to get used to and it clicks into place after a week 😌
I have a home server and I have it setup with bookstack container for centralized note taking. Works great for me. If you have a home server, that might be a good option. It also supports Markdown.
I love Bookstack too.
The more notes, the slower Joplin becomes.
Synchronization via WebDAV is almost a guarantee for file/note version conflicts on different devices.
Alternative opinion regarding the .md files being not "useable" outside of joplin. I actually prefer it that way since it prevents any sync hosts from scanning the contents of the file (am using google drive atm). I also have my notes encrypted anyway so everythig is gibberish too.
I'm using Joplin CLI for years now, synced on all my devices. Super happy with it.
Obsidian with the App Syncthing. ❤
Isn't it closed source?
Joplin is very good I just export my notes as jex fule and drop it in google drive end of the day for backup.
I'm with Joplin for about half of year now. It's...ok..so far. My biggest funny problem is that I also need to use it on old Win 10 32bit and this version of Joplin doesn't work for more than 3 years, lol :(
Your relationship with obsidian as being a markdown editor is incredibly amusing to me. Though, I found it strange that you found Joplin simpler cause it looks way more cluttered to me.
I'm not sure how well this would work with Joplin because I don't use it, but if you wanted to do synchronization between multiple devices, putting it on a nas is a great solution *hint hint, nudge nudge*. Then you can use the encryption feature and a separate synchronization service to keep a backup version in the cloud in case anything goes wrong. Thats what I do.
More cluttered than Obsidian? Impossible
@@samucancld , you can have nothing but your note (and in the formatted view, not the two-pane Joplin does) on the screen. Are you taking about features?
@@samucancld Lol, its the first time I've seen Joplin.
I used Joplin as my main Note apps before now Im using Obsidian.
I was too lazy and didn't have time/money to use and configure obsidian synchronization.
My prioritize was to make every device I have are synced freely. And Joplin worked for me, synchronization between devices seemed flawless.
I didn't have to install any plugins (Yes you couldn't open notes outside the app)
Then I tried Obsidian for 2nd time and make everything works by learning curve. I switched since.
Joplin is good and the best free synced notes app when you don't want to configure anything.
#pardonmyenglish
I am a little out of touch. I was hurt in work then also I used to use Google Podcasts, which no longer exists but didn’t you have a couple people on your program previous they were regulars? Anyway im so glad i found you. I appreciate your experience
@@212helpdesk the podcast is still exists. You can find on every podcatcher everywhere. And on this channel every Saturday.
Did you try Siyuan note?
Looks good. Seems intuitive, been playing with it in between following this video. Great.
Why is he using the windows icon set?
Just wait until he finds out about AnyType
I need another note taking app to take notes for how to use obsidian. Im not smart enough for obsidian nor do i have the time
I've been using an app called iotas. It is very simple.
There's Obsidian next.....long long distance then Joplin, Standard Notes and other. I was using Joplin long time but comparing to Obisidan and its all plugins.... oh man, the sky is the limit.
Beautiful Desktop Environment.
Can I ask what distro and DE you are using?
looks like OpenSUSE + Gnome
Yup openSUSE and gnome.
Ok thanks, I am using fedora + gnomen
This looked somehow more elegant 😊
Could you make a video about how you riced your GNOME like that?
Just noticed those Windows icons
I've found Joplin OK for simple notes, which is what I use it for. I prefer Obsidian for my real note-taking regarding coding, design, writing, etc... Obsidian just feels and functions better all around than Joplin for what I need and for how I work. Joplin doesn't feel as professional.
I use Syncthing for synchronizing Joplin and Obsidian notes.
@@user-rx3xl7zn1u don't you have to pay to use sync with Obsidian?
so many people (or bots?) instantly clicked on video about Joplin just to shill obsidian lol
P.S. Erica couldn't you be anymore obvious?
ye janis is pretty good, big fan of big brother and the holding company.
Hi. great video, congrats! One idea, you can make a video about the extensions that you use in gnome🙂
That weird thing that Joplin does on file names is ultimately what drove me away from it and to Obsidian. You know your file is in there somewhere, but finding it way too hard.
Joplin stores the notes in an SQLite database, not as separate text files. Only for the purpose of syncing, it exports these data into these "weird" text files. These are imported into the SQLite database on the receiving site.
I export it as jex file and drop the file in drive for back up.its simple
Not Foss but another great is Inkdrop.
Guys, I love this software! Thumbs up for Joplin!
Try Logseq
Great App for sure. On the brightside the app is very powerfull and have a great community/plugins. In the other side, the "always bullets list item" makes me bonkers! Some strange bugs in code copy/paste, anoy me as hell and makes me migrate to obsidian!
Logseq is great I use it a lot. IMO its Best for To-do's or project planning, not for note-taking.
Obsidian all the way..! I haven't found anything better for plugins and markdown.
How does it compare to Obsidian?
similar but nowhere near as powerful. still good tho
Simpler.
what he say in terms of joplin potentially being the better pure note taking app (for the average person) due to it simplicity might be valid
Yea definitely Joplin’s simpler. It’s also open-source if you value that. Other than being closed-source, tbh I prefer Obsidian in just about every way, but it depends on the use-case. Joplin is more of a… well, note taking app. And Obsidian does that too, but its power really shows when you use Obsidian to keep track of pretty much everything.
Obsidian also has some nice cli tools and integrated with neovim well which I really like.
@@TheLinuxCast I personally prefer feather notes. For note taking.
Isn't Joplin open-source? If so, how about changing the things you don't like about it.
Joplin was my first proper introduction to Markdown notetaking, tbh, but I ultimately moved to Obsidian for the whole internal linking thing and with how (unlike Joplin) the note files actually save in a directory tree I can use with a plain text editor like Vim or mousepad. It's basically made my creative writing SO much easier to do for me personally, as Joplin was kinda holding me back.
Internal linking was a revelation to me, - absolutely love it!
Mobile version is too basic and looks outdated so it's only good if you're planning to use on pc.
I don't think so. I feel the mobile version is well suited for usage in mobile and found no problems with it. I use dark theme so maybe that helps
@@glidersuzuki5572 To each their own. I think you don't require a lot of features so it works for your use case.
Sorry this is such a bad and overly negative video. You should’ve made a new video when you figured out your sync problem, because it completely invalidates your main closing point at the end.
So sorry
I never understood him saying that it's complex, just turn off the features you don't want.
I think the criticisms are pretty valid. Storing everything in SQLite is very unfriendly for portability or just accessing the files outside of the app. I think I'll just stick with my structured folders of markdown files, manage them with git, and edit them in the best editor available.
I have to agree. In fact the sync is a none issue. Just create a sub folder and the /name of the sub folder behind the WebDav url.
Everything is just a small-stop until orgmode. Here said it. I am sure this will come in the future.
It is just DA DU BEST
Although i get it, if you don't want a powerful markup tool, but some eye candy, user friendly, KISS app = org does not make sense.
But trying it for 6months, for anyone that is curious, can be life changing
I am a little out of touch. I was hurt in work then also I used to use Google Podcasts, which no longer exists but didn’t you have a couple people on your program previous they were regulars? Anyway im so glad i found you. I appreciate your experience