I love your mod videos. Your excited, yet casual approach to modding cheap guitars actually takes a lot of the trepidation out of my own mod projects. Thanks!
Yes use the aluminum neck on it. As a side note i think the discoloration is from heat produced by the over drilling, ive seen that sort of effect with that sort of paint.
I am an actual luthier, and your hobbyist methods have yet to bother me in the slightest. Getting the precision and desired outcome matters, the methods of getting there do not. The amount of improv we use to troubleshoot and reach the precise measurements that we aim for is ridiculous. Especially with tools. Like blacksmiths, if we don't have the tool/the tool we need doesn't exist, we make it ourselves.
It's still ridiculous that a World famous, long established guitar company produces a guitar that fails in its basic function out of the gate due to design flaws. A trem arm that functions properly isn't rocket science and should not require attention from a Luthier or anybody else frankly.
I agree with you about things should be good off the bat. The main issue is that you have two nonuniform issues. The first one is that humans so things subtly different each time we do things, so that can manifest in little imperfections here and there. The other one is the nature of the wood itself. It takes years for that wood to realize it is no longer a tree and now a guitar. Also as it ages it lets out water weight and that make s a huge difference in sound and feel. Add to that a inexpensive guitar is made in volume and there is an acceptable amount of guitars that just will not be AS good as they should. Even well known luthiers and builders have to fight little variables or find workarounds to WHAT SHOULD WORK. I would point at the recent QC issues Fender is having and Gibson is well known for that even on expensive guitars, shit still does happen. If you ever get a chance to play like five of the same guitar (year, vintage, model) and you will see just how all the little subtle differences add up on guitars from the same line.😉👍✨
That may be, or not, but I’m glad for the little imperfections that cheaper instruments provide for us. For me, I like the fact that this guitar has a clanky trem because that’s what I use it for. It’s a selling point for me in a good way. I don’t go up and down with my trem much at all. I like to just give it a little “clank” or a lot of clanks and then even more clanks whenever I want to elicit instant feedback at bedroom level volumes with cascaded fuzzes. The clanking of metal on metal gives you endless sonic possibilities at your instant disposal that a non-clanking trem won’t give you. For me and what I do I prefer trems that clank. Trems that don’t clank I find kind of boring @@johncollins5552
Bro! You’re a miracle worker. That guitar sounds absolutely incredible now with what you have done to it! I love it! … now I want one to mod all my own lol
Such a cool video. Your enthusiasm is contagious. As a hobbyist modder myself, I really relate to your relaxed approach to throwing caution to the wind and just trying different and nontraditional methods to achieve an idea. Awesome stuff. Subscribed because you made me smile several times. Good energy man!!
I bought one, I too hav been thinking about it for 15 years. Mine was perfect all around and weight was on the light side but UPS put a huge crushing dent on it so it has to go back. I hope I get a good replacement.
@@silasfitzgerald7887trying 12s (half rounds) on my Blacktop Jazzmaster, I got them for free with those D’Addario club points at the end of last year (I’ve wanted to try half-rounds for a while.)
You're 100% right - the Aluminium neck looks soooo good. Something about the colour. At least, that's the way it looks from Internet Land. As far as drilling being a one-way choice, I wonder about two things: 1) Is it friction between the pocket and the heel which holds the neck in place, or does holding the screws solidly in the body contribute? Perhaps the screws are only there to clamp the two together, creating that friction. 2) Is the reason most neck screw holes are such a tight fit to stop them from wiggling, or is it to ensure neck alignment prior to tightening the screws? In other words, I wonder if you might be able to get away with screw holes wide enough to accommodate either neck.
I bought a 3p90 hardtail version a couple years ago and it had the same damage around the neck plate. I figured out that the body wood was just very soft so tightening down the neckplate a little hard cracked the paint. I put a combo of Wilkinson Premium (discont) and Guitarmadness P90's in it and it was a good guitar. The TOM bridge on my model with the neck radius caused some strings to fret out at higher register, so I recommend NOT getting the TOM model. Otherwise a fun guitar.
This makes me wonder if I could also straighten the neck on one of my guitars... I've assumed that the neck pocket was somehow misaligned with the tailpiece, but now I feel like I should find out if it's a different problem.
It's pre-disastered with cracks and crooked neck so you can mod the hell out of it. I love that Descendent tremolo set-up. Perfect match for the aluminum neck. The guitar sounds good, a Les Paul wishes it sounded that good. Myth Busted. Does the aluminum neck have any relief built in or is it just dead straight?
Dude, I love this guitar. I would’ve bought one. I’d love to hear it with some Loller pickups. As for the neck I think I’d prefer the wood one. It just looks better.
Looks and sounds really good, but am I seeing something crooked? I know the bridge is angled, but the tremolo plate looks crooked from the pickups and fret lines when you see it from the above camera. Maybe it's completely the angle and lights. Thought I'd ask. Thanks. JLR
For looks the aluminum neck. For playability, stock. You got the thing playing so well, is an asthetic upgrade worth the potential billion issues it may cause? Anyways, I bought the non trem version. Very cool guitar. Needed some serious setup love but yeah, something about seafoam green that inspires me to play differently.. i plan on painting the pickguard black.
Ryan. I'm a luthier and the only thing I would do different when drilling is to clamp the body so that I can use both hands on the drill. Well, on a good day I would bother...
1) Is the aluminum neck going to cause neck dive? 2) I bought the 2xP90 version of the Liquid with the JM trem and love it. Also bought the 2xP90 SX Hawk with mahogany body and no trem. Also love it. 3) I love the necks on SX guitars. 4) I love the P90 pickups SX uses. 5) I’m so glad you finally got a Liquid.
I used to use a couple old Kramer triangles for gigs.The aluminum necks would go wildly out of tune with temperature changes. A room temperature guitar would change by a half step after playing a song. I had to actually heat the necks with a heating pad to use them. Just an anecdote, food for thought. Cheers
is there a reason why the strngs always got cut in the middle rather than near the headstock or the bridge? i even prfer the cut at the headstock^^. i dig the guitarform, after a first wtf? moment of disgust^^
It looks like the aluminum neck would interfere with the location of the neck P90 p/u...?!? Measure twice -- three times in your case -- and cut (dowel and redrill), once. Well, measure three times, cut twice, in this case. Lol.
The aluminium is super sexy, but I think a neck through aluminium like an original Travis Bean or an EGC sounds realy differnt (much more klanky) from a bolt on neck like kramers did.
Yo! How difficult would it be to change one of these to a 24.75" scale similar to a Gibson? I love the look of the Liquid but really prefer shorter scales
@@ascw1991 the easiest way is to move the bridge but I have no idea how far in, it might interfere with the placement of the pickups. The hard way is moving frets. You might be able to find a conversion neck but it will cost way more than the guitar.
If you navigate around gutair parts resource they have a Jazzmaster tailpiece arm and collet that are screw in, but it’s never in stock. Edit: Hey, I have that drill!
The aluminum necks color really clashes with the brushed stainless trem..!! For that to look even close to acceptable, you would need to buff/polish the fretboard part of the neck. And for the love of all that's holy, align that trem plate..!! 😢
@@60CycleHumcast Isn't it Deke Dickerson....not sure of the name, something like that, that plays a Hallmark? I think I saw him with a gold one like yours
The aluminum neck doesn't do much for me. But hey its your guitar do what You like. I do like that trem though. I may have to look into that. The guitar does sound better this video though that is for sure.
An interesting instrument. The model as far away from the SX guitar as possible. Body shape from some strange Fender from the 80s. For 30 years, the characteristic hook-shaped headstock end has been the hallmark of the SX. THIS headstock is definitely from Harley Benton from 20 years ago. 🧐
AAAAAAAAUGH HOW COULD YOU DO THAT WITH THE nah i'm just kidding. amateur hobby shit is where its at... mainly because i relate to it more! hahah... by "amateur" i merely mean "not a trained luthier" or whatever. YEAH!
I'm curious how this instrument will be in six months or a year ... will it continue to give you joy? Or will it deteriorate beyond repair? (I really hope you can continue to have fun with it!)
I love your mod videos. Your excited, yet casual approach to modding cheap guitars actually takes a lot of the trepidation out of my own mod projects. Thanks!
Yes use the aluminum neck on it. As a side note i think the discoloration is from heat produced by the over drilling, ive seen that sort of effect with that sort of paint.
He doesn't even have to buy any fancy chemicals, he can just hit it with a lighter 😂
@marcy_law I was going to actually suggest that as a test to see if it was infact the cause
Oh man, the liquid is one of my fav weird shaped guitars! So glad to see it featured on here.
Pickups: Goldfoil neck, Jaguar middle but pushed to the bridge side of that P90 hole, and Telecaster bridge. 5-way switch (or 10-way freeway).
Definitely go aluminum! Good excuse for a wacky refinish too.
I am an actual luthier, and your hobbyist methods have yet to bother me in the slightest. Getting the precision and desired outcome matters, the methods of getting there do not. The amount of improv we use to troubleshoot and reach the precise measurements that we aim for is ridiculous. Especially with tools. Like blacksmiths, if we don't have the tool/the tool we need doesn't exist, we make it ourselves.
It's still ridiculous that a World famous, long established guitar company produces a guitar that fails in its basic function out of the gate due to design flaws. A trem arm that functions properly isn't rocket science and should not require attention from a Luthier or anybody else frankly.
I agree with you about things should be good off the bat. The main issue is that you have two nonuniform issues. The first one is that humans so things subtly different each time we do things, so that can manifest in little imperfections here and there.
The other one is the nature of the wood itself. It takes years for that wood to realize it is no longer a tree and now a guitar. Also as it ages it lets out water weight and that make s a huge difference in sound and feel. Add to that a inexpensive guitar is made in volume and there is an acceptable amount of guitars that just will not be AS good as they should.
Even well known luthiers and builders have to fight little variables or find workarounds to WHAT SHOULD WORK. I would point at the recent QC issues Fender is having and Gibson is well known for that even on expensive guitars, shit still does happen.
If you ever get a chance to play like five of the same guitar (year, vintage, model) and you will see just how all the little subtle differences add up on guitars from the same line.😉👍✨
@@johncollins5552 ok.
Vibrato
That may be, or not, but I’m glad for the little imperfections that cheaper instruments provide for us. For me, I like the fact that this guitar has a clanky trem because that’s what I use it for. It’s a selling point for me in a good way. I don’t go up and down with my trem much at all. I like to just give it a little “clank” or a lot of clanks and then even more clanks whenever I want to elicit instant feedback at bedroom level volumes with cascaded fuzzes. The clanking of metal on metal gives you endless sonic possibilities at your instant disposal that a non-clanking trem won’t give you. For me and what I do I prefer trems that clank. Trems that don’t clank I find kind of boring @@johncollins5552
The aluminum neck and a sparkle silver finish on the body would look amazing
Bro! You’re a miracle worker. That guitar sounds absolutely incredible now with what you have done to it! I love it! … now I want one to mod all my own lol
Such a cool video. Your enthusiasm is contagious. As a hobbyist modder myself, I really relate to your relaxed approach to throwing caution to the wind and just trying different and nontraditional methods to achieve an idea. Awesome stuff. Subscribed because you made me smile several times. Good energy man!!
I bought one, I too hav been thinking about it for 15 years. Mine was perfect all around and weight was on the light side but UPS put a huge crushing dent on it so it has to go back. I hope I get a good replacement.
Put the kill switch under the trem so if you push down enough it kills it its already drilled
I really dig the sound of those pickups. They have a real nice glassy chime to them. Almost strat like.
NICE! I had seen this before but forgot. I always wanted one of these in this color but the hardtail with 2 humbuckers.
25:10. That. There. That's what I'm talking about.
you already have the existing holes to act as piolet holes. The way you hand drilled it was no problem. You're good.
Putting heavy strings on the jazzmasters is a time-tested remedy for the crappy tone they get with 9's. Great insight!!!
11s minimum
@@silasfitzgerald7887trying 12s (half rounds) on my Blacktop Jazzmaster, I got them for free with those D’Addario club points at the end of last year (I’ve wanted to try half-rounds for a while.)
@@joermnyc in addition to improving the tone, the larger strings will keep from jumping off the saddles. Enjoy.
You're 100% right - the Aluminium neck looks soooo good. Something about the colour. At least, that's the way it looks from Internet Land.
As far as drilling being a one-way choice, I wonder about two things:
1) Is it friction between the pocket and the heel which holds the neck in place, or does holding the screws solidly in the body contribute? Perhaps the screws are only there to clamp the two together, creating that friction.
2) Is the reason most neck screw holes are such a tight fit to stop them from wiggling, or is it to ensure neck alignment prior to tightening the screws?
In other words, I wonder if you might be able to get away with screw holes wide enough to accommodate either neck.
I bought a 3p90 hardtail version a couple years ago and it had the same damage around the neck plate. I figured out that the body wood was just very soft so tightening down the neckplate a little hard cracked the paint. I put a combo of Wilkinson Premium (discont) and Guitarmadness P90's in it and it was a good guitar. The TOM bridge on my model with the neck radius caused some strings to fret out at higher register, so I recommend NOT getting the TOM model. Otherwise a fun guitar.
This makes me wonder if I could also straighten the neck on one of my guitars... I've assumed that the neck pocket was somehow misaligned with the tailpiece, but now I feel like I should find out if it's a different problem.
You should be able to nudge it around in the socket a little.
Learning is the whole process! Least you was able to admit it in video. Most would have edited that out. Great job kudos man
It's pre-disastered with cracks and crooked neck so you can mod the hell out of it. I love that Descendent tremolo set-up. Perfect match for the aluminum neck. The guitar sounds good, a Les Paul wishes it sounded that good. Myth Busted. Does the aluminum neck have any relief built in or is it just dead straight?
Dude, I love this guitar. I would’ve bought one. I’d love to hear it with some Loller pickups. As for the neck I think I’d prefer the wood one. It just looks better.
The twang is because you increased the break angle with your new "budget" trem... You can also do this with a neck shim and raising the bridge a bit.
Dremmel the pocket 1/8 to let the neck slide toward the bridge. Go for it!!!
Ed Sheeran would be proud of the way you modified those classic songs to avoid copyright. :)
PTFE tape tightens wiggle sticks
He tried that in the last video. Didn't help in this case.
You could put a kill switch between the volume and tone knobs
I was about to comment to use teflon tape...and then 2:24. 🤷♂ That Descendant looks nice though!
Looks and sounds really good, but am I seeing something crooked? I know the bridge is angled, but the tremolo plate looks crooked from the pickups and fret lines when you see it from the above camera. Maybe it's completely the angle and lights. Thought I'd ask. Thanks. JLR
For looks the aluminum neck. For playability, stock. You got the thing playing so well, is an asthetic upgrade worth the potential billion issues it may cause?
Anyways, I bought the non trem version. Very cool guitar. Needed some serious setup love but yeah, something about seafoam green that inspires me to play differently.. i plan on painting the pickguard black.
Like the guitar a lot. Color is unique. Very interesting. Looks fun . I'm learning a lot.
Ryan. I'm a luthier and the only thing I would do different when drilling is to clamp the body so that I can use both hands on the drill. Well, on a good day I would bother...
Don't change the neck Replace the pickup switch with 3 mini mini on/off/reverse switches.
Would Teflon tape not solve the issue with the original trem arm??
Aluminum Neck, Aluminum Neck!!! YOU CAN DO IT!
1) Is the aluminum neck going to cause neck dive?
2) I bought the 2xP90 version of the Liquid with the JM trem and love it.
Also bought the 2xP90 SX Hawk with mahogany body and no trem. Also love it.
3) I love the necks on SX guitars.
4) I love the P90 pickups SX uses.
5) I’m so glad you finally got a Liquid.
SX is such a great bang for your buck for sure.
I bought one of these 10 or more years ago and the trem clanked. I sent them an email and a replacement was sent that worked better.
That trem (and the old one) is so not parallel to anything else that it hurts my eyes.
I used to use a couple old Kramer triangles for gigs.The aluminum necks would go wildly out of tune with temperature changes. A room temperature guitar would change by a half step after playing a song. I had to actually heat the necks with a heating pad to use them. Just an anecdote, food for thought. Cheers
Haven’t that issue with this neck
@@60CycleHumcast Right on, no slight intended. Great stuff brother!
Love it!!!! Love the guitar, the sound and look!!!! Bit bias about the alu neck but that’s only because I love these old all alu guitar’s!!
Put three firebird buckers in it and a varitone w/ out a phase switch and put super jumbo stainless frets on it???
is there a reason why the strngs always got cut in the middle rather than near the headstock or the bridge? i even prfer the cut at the headstock^^. i dig the guitarform, after a first wtf? moment of disgust^^
Out of stock! I need one of these ASAP!
Staytrem remains the best value trem upgrade, since the poor tolerance on arm and collet seem to be the biggest source of issues on squier etc.
That aluminum neck would look BEAUTIFUL on this guitar!
@Official60CycleHum totally legit
Damn son, that guitar TWANGS now!
I don't know why but I want to see more of this guitar in your videos lol. I like traditional neck more but you do you :)
Yeah, that aluminium neck is badass. I was literally yelling at you to put it on ...until it didn't fit, LOL
Would the aluminum neck be neck-dive city?
YOU DIDN'T STRETCH YOUR STRINGS! AAAAAHHAHAAHHARGH!
Thanks For Sharing 🎸 🎶
PS. Love the show. Thanks.
Unscrewy Bop, bop, bop, bop
i had a metallic blue sparkle p bass knock off guitar that i sprayed lysol on it and it turned to metallic green. totally cool.
..is that a Micro-Tilt™ drill on that neck pocket?
Do the aluminum neck, imagine no more headstock/neck breaks while traveling by airplane
If you change out the neck, make sure the frets end up in the same places so you don’t have intonation issues.
It looks like it should, but maybe it’s just the camera angle.
@@joermnyc How the heel fits in the pocket will be important.
neck plate indentations on basswood bodies is very common.
Man that aluminum neck would've been so cool on that guitar. People are really sleeping on aluminum in my opinion.
I think people are turned off by the weight.
I want too know what tha
T acquainted Amp is behind you if it tubed
It looks like the aluminum neck would interfere with the location of the neck P90 p/u...?!? Measure twice -- three times in your case -- and cut (dowel and redrill), once. Well, measure three times, cut twice, in this case. Lol.
The aluminium is super sexy, but I think a neck through aluminium like an original Travis Bean or an EGC sounds realy differnt (much more klanky) from a bolt on neck like kramers did.
If you don’t go with the Alum. Neck, you’ll have 2 modified wiggle sticks on the same guitar!
That's VERY similar to the Noventa Jazzmaster!
I like how the should I do it? Is always yes.
DO IT! You have a good drill press now to do the job right! You're welcome😁
Look into the Shadow kill-pot. Kill switch built into a volume pot.
Looks like a fender mim noventa jazzmaster with a crazy angle body
Yo! How difficult would it be to change one of these to a 24.75" scale similar to a Gibson? I love the look of the Liquid but really prefer shorter scales
Very
@@60CycleHumcast pretty much a full remake, huh? Lol
@@ascw1991 the easiest way is to move the bridge but I have no idea how far in, it might interfere with the placement of the pickups. The hard way is moving frets. You might be able to find a conversion neck but it will cost way more than the guitar.
@@60CycleHumcast damn, major bummer. Thanks for the info though, amigo. You're the best guitar channel on this Hellish platform lol
I had to endure a tampon ad just to watch the start of this video😂 anyways, dude always is fun surf's up!❤
If you navigate around gutair parts resource they have a Jazzmaster tailpiece arm and collet that are screw in, but it’s never in stock.
Edit: Hey, I have that drill!
That drill has been a trooper
sounds awesome
The aluminum necks color really clashes with the brushed stainless trem..!! For that to look even close to acceptable, you would need to buff/polish the fretboard part of the neck.
And for the love of all that's holy, align that trem plate..!! 😢
is that discoloration a friction burn?
Ha! I see you have a Swept Wing. I have one in blue sparkle. Certainly not a guitar that you see often out in the wild.
I’m in a surf band lol
@@60CycleHumcast Isn't it Deke Dickerson....not sure of the name, something like that, that plays a Hallmark? I think I saw him with a gold one like yours
Wait what 2 brands of strings do you not like lol
Eb is where it's at.
The aluminum neck doesn't do much for me. But hey its your guitar do what You like. I do like that trem though. I may have to look into that. The guitar does sound better this video though that is for sure.
But aluminum necks expand under hot stage lights, so not a great idea.
hot stage lights 😂
@@ak2112 That’s your new band name right there.
that was fun, not a fan of the neck, but it "fits"
Would buy one of these and make it a headless hack job
time for a crazy wiring harness from GunStreet Wiring. And a Kill Switch
YES! Swap that neck.
I don't think I would have the courage to take apart a 19 000 pennies guitar.
The aluminum neck has no appeal to me what so ever, especially being so narrow in the pocket, but I really like the trem unit
An interesting instrument. The model as far away from the SX guitar as possible. Body shape from some strange Fender from the 80s. For 30 years, the characteristic hook-shaped headstock end has been the hallmark of the SX. THIS headstock is definitely from Harley Benton from 20 years ago. 🧐
AAAAAAAAUGH HOW COULD YOU DO THAT WITH THE nah i'm just kidding. amateur hobby shit is where its at... mainly because i relate to it more! hahah... by "amateur" i merely mean "not a trained luthier" or whatever. YEAH!
Put one of Mel's pickups in the bridge?
Aluminum neck is meh for me, tbh
I admit the aluminum neck looks good but forget staying in tune.
I'm sure you could mo e wireing
That aluminum neck would be so cool
Eb standard tuning. The sound of the 90s.
Pickups...pickups...pickups...
Filtertrons! Slight body work...not too much.
Or... DeArmond Dynasonics.
i love it.
I'm curious how this instrument will be in six months or a year ... will it continue to give you joy? Or will it deteriorate beyond repair? (I really hope you can continue to have fun with it!)
This looks a lot like my Noventa series jazzmaster
looks like a piece of bird dodoo
that discoloration is burnt clear coat
Do it!