Marine reacts to the Finnish Defense Forces Reserves (Part 1)
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2024
- I've been meaning to check out this video for a while and I'm glad I did! It gives some fantastic insight into the FDF Reserve organizations
Original video: • Reservin Voima
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Helsinki got the summer Olympics in 1940... but the war happened. The YLE (Finnish broadcasting company) bought state of the art film cameras and equipment for the 1940 games so those were used for filming the winter- and the cont.war. That's why we have a lot good footage.
Really, i haven`t heard that before, that makes sense :D
Not only that, but ANY film used at that time was analogue and extreme high quality (by today's standards) that can be re-scanned to extreme digital fidelity by today's equipment. It is only the VHS and DVD era that has bad quality video/pictures
Sadly, since the old film was quite valuable (lots of silver) and flammable, most of the original reels of old film materials were recycled or destroyed in fires before their historical and monetary value was realized and organized preservation efforts started
Luckily, many show runners realized how valuable the originals (that could eventually be rescanned to higher and higher resolution) could be, and even during VHS/DVD era, demanded that the original show/movie should be shot in the more expensive "old fashioned" film for longevity. That is why some TV shows and movies are seeing a 4K Blu-ray releases and some don't.
So infuriating to know some of our favourite shows and movies are stuck forever in the VHS/DVD era, since the producers decided to cheap out by either recycling/destroying old footage for space, sell pieces of the film for memorabilia or even use low quality cameras for filming, since the TV/VHS resolution would be equally low anyway :(
@@Songfugel YLE decided the leave the Talvisota mini-series in the worst possible VHS style quality despite requests from the Talvistoa crew itself, but thankfully the national audiovisual institute KAVI is working on a 4K version now - since they figured out they have the rights for internet streaming.
Many international journalists and photographers were already in Helsinki in preparation for the Olympics when the winter war broke out. One of these is Thérèse Bonney, who stayed in Finland over the war to photograph it for the international audience. She was given the order of the white rose of Finland medal for her work.
I listened a short podcast about her, she stayed in Finland during the Continuation War too, and was covertly working for the US foreign intelligence at the time. Mainly gathering info about Finnish political climate and so forth.
I love the Finnish people !! I’ve been with them for a few months met a few military men/woman. And they really love their country and will/would defend it to the death. Helvete Perkele!🇫🇮
Maybe you need come back in Finland?!? Come in Sulkava, east-Finland, Saimaa! Me and my husband live here. If you come, we can show you place.❤
Helvetti, Perkele, Vittu saatana.
Are you Swedish?
@@heh9392 Sorry! Im not. Im From finland..
@@heh9392 oon suomesta.
As a Swede, I often think we overdo the compounding of words. And then i see a finnish word with like 25 letters lol.
Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas
"airplane jet turbine engine auxiliary mechanic non-commissioned officer student"
Seems like we have to compete with the Germans about the 2:nd place... :D
@@Wiromax3 Longest, real words that are actually used IRL are pyyhkäisyelektronimikroskooppi ja Elintarviketurvallisuusvirasto. 30 letters both.
@@Wiromax3Which isn't real word.
I've seen many claims for that word having been previously in use, but can't find any sources to support either direction, do any of you have sources that say that "lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas" has never been in use?
Wikipedia also lists "vastatykistömaalinosoitustutkakalustojärjestelmäinsinöörierikoisupseeri" ("counter-artillery targeting radar systems engineer specialist officer") as an currently in use military title.
24:40 The thing he's using in his hands is called "jäänaskali". It's a special safety device designed to help climbing out from the water back to ice. It's basically like two sheath knifes attached with a string but the blade is more like a spike. The idea is to keep it hanging from your neck while walking on frozen lakes so you can easily reach it if you fall through the ice. You can get one from most Finnish supermarkets and the cost is between 5-10 EUR (that's meant for anybody walking on the frozen lake, not a military device).
A necessity for ice fishers, for sure.
17:50 There's no such thing as "too snowy" or "too rainy" in Finnish Defence Forces. Even conscripts go outdoors by the plan regardless of the amount of snow or low temperature. When I did my mandatory service, I was a bit unlucky to had to do the timed reviewed tests (including tearing down and rebuilding the service weapon blindfolded) outdoors in the snow while it was -30 °C. The only hard part was the teardown and rebuilding the weapon because that thing is really cold to hold with bare hands in such a low temperaturs and you cannot do some parts of the task with mittens on.
The problem with training with live ammunition with live guns is that the regular staff (non-conscripts personnel) gets extra payment for such training and it gets really expensive really fast if the exercise requires lots of personnel for extended periods. I think the regular staff may have extra for too cold, too wet, too dirty, working around usual business hours, having to sleep in the woods, etc. Combine multiple of those and it gets really expensive per hour.
For conscripts, it's another Tuesday.
Ja vittu ku kaikki pitä tehä vielä takaperin ja ABC-maski naamalla :D
Niin ja the problem with live fire training on se, että raskaan kranaatinheittimen kovapanosammunnoissa kuolee asevelvollisia rauhan aikana. Niin ei pitäisi tapahtua.
Finlands Navy. 1987-88, ennekuin pääsin sotasatama 2, 1 Pansioon. 5 m syvyydestä haku ynm. Olet maavoimien mies. 😄
29:28 Decades ago when I was in the Army we had a one day 80 km bicycle march with full combat gear, worst part was several kilometers of trail with mud and slush where we had to drag and carry our bicycles. I thought I can't make it but somehow I managed it.
And when I was in the army, our trainer lieutenant showed us how to take air cover in bicycle march. He took full speed and jumped into the bushes, there were lot`s of rocks and he broke bones on his ribs and legs! 😅
@@lasse2253 was that the same guy who got a permanent promotion ban?
@@itmoohthe same who fired his pistol to mess hall’s ceiling
@@itmoohi know this guy. Banged his daughter
We had normally 25km to our main training area but there was a bridge crossing involved and that one was always "blown up" so 25km became 80km :)
3:48 From Wikipedia: " The Schwurhand (German pronunciation: [ˈʃvuːɐ̯hant], "swear-hand"; Dutch: spreekgebaar) is a heraldic charge depicting the hand gesture that is used in Germanic Europe and neighboring countries, when swearing an oath in court, in office or in swearing-in. The right hand is raised, with the index finger and middle finger extended upwards; the last two digits are curled downwards against the palm. The thumb is shown slightly curled or raised.
The use of the gesture dates back many centuries. Recruits of the Pontifical Swiss Guard at the Vatican City use the sign when swearing their oath of allegiance to the Pope, in a ceremony performed on 6 May every year since the Sack of Rome in 1527."
My sister‘s Swiss fiancé’s uncles worked the Vatican guard. I saw pictures from the cool uniforms. 💂🏻💂🏻
If that hand gesture is related with the Pontifical Swiss Guard so it's a reference to the Holy Trinity: The Father - The Son - The Holy Spirit.
We also have over 12,000 females taking part in this. During WW2, even little girls were in charge with tasks like taking care of babies, sewing special mittens for our soldiers and so on. Teen girls (along with older women) kept watch for enemy planes 24/7. The army's laundry was washed, their bread baked etc. by women. If someone reading this is interested to find out more, there is a museum in Tuusula called Lotta museo. Visit there and find out about forgotten history.
Two fingers up means oath, "vala" in Finnish. It is an official promise to defend our land. It has been given under 400 hundred years for now. Still today.
The two finger is from placing 2 fingers on the bible to swear an oath. So holding 2 finger in the air represents that act of holding em on the bible. Some time since I read about this but I am pretty sure that's why its 2 fingers.
Edit: Similar to USA having "place your hand on the bible" to swear to tell the truth blablabla...
To add to that oath:
The two fingers and thumb on the other two is an old Christian symbol. The two represent Jesus’s two natures as both man and God, and the other three represent the trinity.
@@Ianassa91 Thanks! I didn't know that before.
I don't think "official" is the right word, it's purely symbolic. It may be personally important to many people, but it's not legally binding in any way.
@@ozzyp97 Saying official is a simple way to express that the oath is a binding promise. Breaking or acting agsinst the oath is a punishable act.
Voluntary exercises (MPK) are mainly personal skills and not with your unit. But higher caliber exercises (VEH) might collect your squad and your employer couldnt say no to them.
Correction: If you are invited to a VEH, your employer CAN say no to that. VEH stands for VapaaEhtoinen Harjoitus (voluntary exercise)
@@jerkku1010 in estonia, when re-training for reservists happen, they call it "volunteer" as well, but in reality it isnt... u can dodge it like one year for example, but if u keep getting invites and dodging ur re-training, they will literally send a more formal command-form letter, and you better show up :D or have legal consequences (probably jail time for being 'deserter' )
i assume in finland its the same, u cant dodge these volunteer trainings forever...
my friend is veebel.. (medic) no idea what it is in english.. 3 tiers higher than sergeant
and his bveen invited to those trainings regularly all the time, because there's not so many medid officers lol.. he absolutely hates it :D because he didnt want to be medic when he want mandatory service at 18... only reason he was put medic, because higher intelligence than average.. and he could carry his weight and above his weight.. in training excerises.. i guess they thought he makes a good medic, if he can actually carry wounded away.. unlike the other weak kids who didnt have strenght. people underestimate how hard is to be medic in a war tbh.. think of it like this.
sad thing is that estonian defence force is so small, that thereäs almost no point as a career option.. because albeit ladder has many ranks etc....
there's actually no spots and space to advance anywhere.. no open positions.. got couple of friends who are literally stuck on the same rank for over decade or more.. because no career progress oportunities...
@@jerkku1010 If your employer says NO then they are probably a Russian spy and you should report em or employed by Russia in some way. Remember to report those employers so that we can make sure what their intentions are.
Edit: We already had some wealthy fck sell islands to Russians that built military grade stations in the Archipelago. Sometimes money makes people do stpd stuff and sometimes they just don't care and would sell us for any price.
white paper, KH = attendance is mandatory unless you have a legally binding reason to stay out. usually longer and also pay much better (not like professional soldier pay, but orange paper, VEH/voluntary exercises pay out a glorious €5.40/day, plus transport. KH is better in comparison.) also your employer must make time for you to partake, unlike voluntary exercises which are more up to the individual employer, but all my bosses I've had, no matter the field, have seen voluntary training as a very good and respectable activity and have done their utmost to enable my partaking in as many exercises as possible, besides considering they tend to take place on the weekends, unless you work a customer service heavy job or in the restaurant field (surely others as well) the time is already there, you just might need a day to recover. but IMO, better that you take a day of paid or even unpaid leave on monday to rest, rehydrate and eat well, than spend the weekend drinking
USA citizens send love, prayers and support for all our Allie’s on all other fronts 😘
Well yes, shure, bute where are the fronts?
20:33 The 3 numbers at the end is the height from sea level. This is especially important for us in the artillery when shooting at hills or behind hills. We need to know how high the target is from sea level to maintain perfect accuracy.
Exactly. And the coordinates are MGRS.
TRA = Taistelu rakennetulla alueella = Combat in a built up area
@14:40 Funny, that you noticed about the tempo of his speech. I think he is the only one in the video talking quite "normally". He is still talking very clearly, but all the other professional soldiers are talking like stereotypical army guys :) So slow and extremely clear and they have that weirdly clear and strong "R" sounds. Like every single one of the people who are working in the army of the police are using that "clear" style of speaking.
The device being setup at 26:25 is a radio link. It is targeted to another one at the other end, which can be tens of kilometers away to provide secure communication channel that is harder to detect than a omnidirectional antenna.
The spikes the soldier was using at 23:34 are called "naskalit" in finnish. They are basicly just two spikes hanging around your neck like a necklace and they are used to get out of water when there is ice.
The interviewer Jere Hietala has solid background from FDF, if I'm not mistaken he is former SOF operator. He is also active in anti poaching organisation's.
Yes he is former SOF operator and he trained some ukrainian forces in UK
I think you are mistaken
@@Laitapuolen_hyokkaaja what you mean
He's not former sof operator
@@Laitapuolen_hyokkaaja ooh then i mistaked him to someone else
14:30 he’s not speaking really fast, he’s just got a heavy rolling R and a bit of accent/dialect 😅
Theo you are really good guy! Thanks for all these videos! You are always welcome Finland!!!
I am a Finn living in Germany and when Russia attacked Ukraine, I said to my german friend I will defend Finland and our freedom till death and his response was: I don't care for Germany, I can live under Putin. Shows the massive difference how Finnish attitude and German attitude after WW 2 was built.
As fin i can tell i would rather die than became russian.
Same here! My grandfather was 17 when russians attack Finland in winter war,and he wounded and fight for our freedom!! I`m now 46 and bad condition, but i rather die defending my sons and their families, than let russians invade our great country!
Considering how Russia's army has been built up to be a genocide machine, there wouldn't be such a thing as "living under Putin" for quite a lot of people. When the Russians invaded Finland the last time, they were also intending to commit genocide of millions of people. That's why our defence was so fierce.
@@caesardicktator3301 you can sit on a roof and snipe the hell out of them 😎👍
Same. I'd rather die than be a Russian
Thank you for this reaction video! cant wait part 2 👍👍
28:01 Jere is former professional aggressive inline skating dude, after that he pursued career in professional photography so he is also award winning photographer.
All around great dude in my books.
Those red things are called "naskali" and you're supposed to always carry them when moving on ice, military or civilian, ... saves a lot of lives
Absolutely.
Without them the chances are the ice is simply going to break underneath you when trying to get out. With those icepicks you can spread your weight on much wider area and pull yourself out, most of the force being applied horizontally rather than vertically.
When people fall through ice it is usually when it is thin or otherwise weak.
Exactly, for ice scating or just taking a sunday walk on the Ice.
@@vaenii5056 Actually they are more about getting the grip of ice. Trying to climb out of icy hole spreads water on ice and makes it ludicrously slippery and you can't climb out from that hole. Naskali or any other spike like that allows to grab ice dspite it being wet and climb out.
My grandfather was in the winter war. And my father and his sister had to sleep with blankets over their windows cos of the bombings nearby. It was hard, to say the least. Grandpa made it and came home in one piece after the war was done. My dad has told me a bit of his military training. He's born in 1939. So the training was much harder, than it is now. Some things are just mind-blowing. Can't imagine going through that back then.
A few years after I did my normal army duty, I was called back for a rehearsal training. Went three times. When the fourth call came I wasn’t able to join it. Since I then ”dropped” off from accepting the task, I never got any more calls. That feels bad. Now I’m 59 and shuld probably give up hope of getting any calls. Fortunatly we have a lot of guns in the family, so practicing is no problem. But I do miss those long weekend calls for some real excercise.
29:28 Yup, bicycle marches. Back in the 70s, when mechanization was far from a universal fact of life in the FDF, my dad served in a unit that utilized bikes a whole lot and (by his own estimate) cycled well over 1000km in his year of service.
Nowadays bikes are a lot less prevalent due to the vastly improved availability of mechanized transports, and admittedly they're not a great option in rough terrain or situations where there is a high risk of hostile contact. But if you need to move troops via roads through a relatively safe area and cars/trucks aren't available, cycling can get people where they need to go a lot faster and with relatively less fatigue than marching on foot.
Those 2 fingers to me,means promise.
The FDF uses standard Nato MGRS with maps, we've been training guys to use it even prior to Nato membership. Gotta say, it's simple and handy, and the cheapest tool for fire control together with a manual direction circle.
The cool thing is, a lot of the training you get from those voluntary excercises by Defence Forces and other organizations can be transferred to your everyday civil life, such as the seen rescuing yourself from ice, or leadership training. Those are wholesome experiences all and all.
Finland won gold on sniping compaction, 2023, Including europeian countries and USA.
There's a lot of different courses to go. Cqb, recon, sniping, medical stuff, coms, artillery/mortar stuff, electrical defence, anti tank etc. all branches are covered. So as a reservist you could learn a lot from different branches and know basics from then or even become proficient in many.
Can we do parachute training? That would be dope and itd be free. Only thing better than parachuting is military parachuting with guns ect high speed stuff. Im thinking now how did i not do some of that earlier. I need to do this
@@source9264Yes you can be a parachute jaeger if you want to. But you must be in very good shape, have proper eyesight and hearing and you can't go if you have certain illness like asthma.
@@source9264 at the moment no. And some courses are not free. So if there would be parachuting you would defenetly have to pay for it.
20:35 The coordinates include height (from sea level in meters) as the third number. I guess it's meant for artillery use.
Hi! Thanks for reacts. What I would like to remind, is that: (1) Finnish active reserves are like 300,000 soldiers (5% of citizens), and (2) "passive" reserve is around 900,000 (15% of citizens). That passive reserve is people who have had basic military training, but do not have their wartime position, and generally not actively trained anymore. OK, but considering the number of total inhabitants, in US scale: (1) active reserve is 300m * 5% ~17 million soldiers, and (2) passive reserve is 300m * 15% ~ 54m soldiers.
For a country, sending that large amount of your population to a war is of course unbearable - and it can be only happen if facing an existential threat. There is another country preparing for this kind of existential threat, and it is Israel. If you compare Finnish defense forces to Isreals one, you probably will find lots of common in the organization and the way of thinking.
14:45 I think he is talking slightly faster than a typical Finn but the difference is maybe 10-20%. The think you have to understand about Finnish is that intonation and rythm goes by syllable which may make it sound like he's talking really fast. One Finnish word has around 3 syllables.
The military personnel in this video was mostly speaking slower than a typical Finn to make sure that the words are easy to understand even if there were background noise.
It's mostly the hard consonants and lots of syllables that make it seem faster than it is. Especially "Vekotinta". Four syllables, with K,T,T being so hard makes it sound faster.
Thank you, Theo, for taking into account little Finland's ability to defend itself. I myself joined the reserve union when Russia attacked Ukraine and yes, there is no assault rifle of its own, which is really hard to get, but when you get to shoot with them, it's great and we have a credible deterrent against Russia and the know we are ready.
20:36 MGRS coordinates - last digit is height from the sea level. You need to know how to do this, to be able to give commands to artillery. Every leader in Finnish army will learn this trait.
That air defence missile system is called Crotale. It's a French system mounted on top of a Finnish PASI armored personnel vehicle. I'm trained as a squad leader of one of those. They are pretty close to their retirement age, but it's still really cool and functional system.
Fun to watch these videos now that I myself am actually in the army, 50 days into my service
Ps. That top is in fact very comfortable
Thank you! You do good work!👍
Thanks for the video, didn't know about this as I am fully reservist and should say would only be support personnel for actual fighters (my condition isn't made for fighting atm). Was really interesting to check this out with you as my brother's kids are now training to be Jaegers finnish special forces training. So was interesting to see what they might be getting compared to my own 20 years ago training.
Dude. Fantastic video!
that "review exercises" should have been "refresher and retraining" exercises. basically you might be reassigned and then do individual retraining then the whole group is gathered up in a refresher where they train together.
The programme seems very ambitious.
Would it be more precise to use repetitive or repetition exercise?
@@frida507 well not really. take into account that instead of getting only people who have to choose military as their profession, we finns get EVERYBODY including the cream of the crop, plus they tend to be motivated and they also have the benefit of experience from their civilian professions.
great way to keep your forces ready districts have access to the tools and people on tap !!!
You said that: " I need to go back there" (about 5:20), you are always welcome here bro!
I was in a review exercise this year and they basically told the stuff we would do if something would start happening. Mostly it was for refreshing memory, but they said that it was also a gathering, cause if the shit would go down it would be the same group handling it. It was a simulation, what we would do if he would have to do. Very usefull experience. After sleeping outdoors in a tent surrounded by snow for few days, I once again started to appreciate walls and roof!
Voluntary exercises are one thing. I’ve only been to mandatory reservist refresher exercises and they’ve been always integrated in to the final large scale field training exercise of the conscripts. So we work together with them as a part of a larger organization. I’ve always been training with the same team that we had in my conscription service and doing of course the same job, our job. And our job is still very much in muscle memory to this day.
The voluntary exercises are often as they said ”preparing” for future exercises but also can be just additional training, a friend of mine got an invitation to a voluntary exercise(he is a ranger scout sniper) and they trained only reconnaissance. In the end they were pretty much dumped in to the forests for three days with a mission to scout a target area and return back.
At around the 10 minute mark when they're in the buildings, that area is in daily use by conscripts and it's a very nice and diverse for all type of urban training including breaching, explosives, rappelling, stairs etc. I served my military time in that garrison (if that's the right word??) where they are and mostly doing what they're doing and some more advanced stuff aswell ofc.
TRA = Taistelu rakennetulla alueella = Combat in a built area/environment so basicly CQB.
In regard to 18:08. Yes iit's nice to have those environments, but also we mostly train under the open sky, what ever she decides to be that day. That's also where we'll fight :)
First of all, the Finns Valmet rifle is dope.... secondly, you REALLY want to invade THAT Country, which is filled with Pipehitters??? Good luck.
Those CQB clips were from Santahamina and the facilities are pretty good. You have multiple built up houses next to each other, with multiple floors. So you can really train both pure CQB, but also moving to the buildings how to move in between the buildings. Pushing buildings with vehicles etc. Really cool stuff
If you get summoned to voluntary exercise, they dont expect all of the summonees to actually participate. The ones who do, are usually integrated to ongoing exercises of the current conscripts and you get to prepare yourself with your personal skills for the review exersice. When you get summoned to review exercise, all of your squad will be there and you will train with them.
And even if only part of the squad participates, it all plays for the good of the whole.
7:00 In case of large scale mobilisation of the reserves, majority of the tasks in receiving, booking, equipping and training reservists is done by other reservists. This is why voluntary exercises for these key personnel are important.
Reservist thing is quite a "big hobby" for several of people I know. They almost all have done it for years or decades, it sticks. What I know about it, there really is a wide range os courses and skills that you can acquire depending "on your taste". Some are for beginners, others for more advanced students.
In my opinion, almost all participating are keeping rather modest and almost low profile of the stuff for example in social media. Things like a packed backpack with sentence "forest weekend" may appear but very rarely anything specific about the action. Very discreet people from all walks of life and most income/occupancy groups.
I would say there also is a very small percent of so-called war crazy or trigger happy people. Discipline in gun use and code, storing them etc. all the hassle with legistlation and paperwork is always done spot-on. I think it is a thing of honor for them.
Aside from the actual reservist and defence things in here, there is quite an amount of people, who regularly go out for hunting and other. It doesn´t necessarily mean anything for defence directly, but the whole "outdoors.thing" and a little bit of surviving outdoors is IMO on the rise here. As well as all household level small-scale preparation for, let´s say, a rainy day. But its all in kidof a good way.
7:40 In the voluntary part they usually train officers, NCOs and other people who then lead and train the rest of the troops in the actual training. Like the first step of mobilization.
14:00 You need to pay a small fee for the MPK courses. Voluntary refresher training is free and for non-voluntary training you get paid.
14:30 He doesn't talk fast at all.
24:40 Those are "naskalit", a short spike and a handle, specifically designed for just this purpose. You wear them on your neck, ready to be used, when crossing any frozen body of water.
26:00 and 27:20 Crotale NG or ITO-90M, French made SHORAD system. 8 ready to launch missiles, radars & operators all on a single Finnish PASI chassis. It's getting old and needs to be replaced in a few years.
Thanks for your reaction Sir
15:22 A cannelure is a groove or indentation found on the outside of a cartridge case, typically used for crimping or securing the bullet in place. By painting this cannelure blue, as seen here, it becomes easily visible and serves as an indicator that the cartridge contains blank ammunition. Unfortunately not every Western country marks its ammunition according to exactly the same rules, although it might be safer if that were so.
20:30 the 3 numbers at the end is the elevation, not really used when communicating, but think some systems show it.
Needed for artillery calculations. However when operating inside Finland it really isn't needed when communicating. Since one would anyway be looking it from them military map. Well the receiving end has the exactly same military map. So there is no real point of communicating the sea level height, it is directly implied just by the location. Rest is up to the National land survey of Finland. Since they produce the topographic data military maps also use.
Hence fire call usually doesn't need height. The artillery calculators will anyway just look it up from the topographic data. It is trusted, that land survey did their job (and probably that military intelligence did their job outside Finland).
Mainly what is needed is difference between the shooting location height and target height. This tells how much the parabola/ballistic arch needs to be lifted or lowered to actually hit the 3 dimensional spot in space. instead of over shooting or under shooting.
Just remember the Finnish also fought off the Russians during WW2 successfully. Self defense for them is the most similar to how Israel feels and operates .
So glad they are in NATO also ❤❤
I got a weird but funny moment at 19:45 -- although I understand spoken English fairly well most of the time, and for the rest of the video your voice comes through loud and clear -- even after many repeats, I could only hear you say in plain Finnish: "Näin se käy." on that moment. That'd be "That's how it's done." in English. Imho this might be quite the perfect Finnish phrase to comment on the program where the Defense forces train reservists to train other reservists -- which was the topic discussed just around those very seconds. Such Finnish words sound absolutely awesome coming from you.
Keep up the good work, mate!
Lol yeah, he says "nice okay", but now that I read your comment I can definitely hear "näin se käy" clearly xD
Wow! Feels like Christmas! No time to watch now, but just had to comment 😆 Checking this out later!
20:45 the last three digits are marked as altitude from sea level
I am 30 years old, white and from the USA.
Growing up, 1999-2009 , my best friend was also an American who was born and raised here his entire life. His dad is Finnish and mom American .
Well, because his dad is Finnish he also was a citizen of Finland from birth I do believe but either way, growing up he was a citizen of both countries .
I recall around 2008 when he was close to being 16 or maybe it was 2010 and he was about to be 18. Either way, he was supposed to go and serve in Finland begause he told me “it’s mandatory training for ALL men at that age unless they have school or etc” it’s been a little while since then, I can’t recall what the criteara were to not have to go but he ended up not having to .
I am not sure if he had to denounce his citizenship there though. But I always was impressed that they had the major majority of their male population at the very least, trained from a impressionable age where you just know it Will immensely hell them
Edit: May god bless the USA and all of our Allie’s
Im a second generation migrant from finland ( both parents migrated during 60s from finland ) for me my parent activly switched my citizenship from dual fin-swe to full swe why i never got called to serve in finland, but many of my childhood friends got called aswell. Some of them went for it and one actually never replied or went to do the mandatory military training at age of 18. But 12 years later when he had to go to a funeral the military police took him off the boat and gave him a option to 9 months jailtime or 9 months of military service, he did the latter at age of 30 :D
If your view on some mind expanding things is yes, or you have mental problems or "mental problems" you can dodge the army...
Holders of dual citizenship can be exempted from serving in couple of ways.
1) If a person has lived outside of Finland for the last 7 years, they're exempted automatically. They're not called up nor need to apply for exemption. However, if they visit Finland before the of the year they turn 30, they can be ordered to do their service. But after that point they're exempted on the grounds of being over conscription age, with no further issues if visiting the country.
2) Even before aforementioned 7 years of living abroad is up, a person can be exempted from service by application by providing compelling enough proof that their ties to Finland are no longer there.
Nice they have the swedish Gripen C in a video for Finnish defense forces to emphasis the military cooperation !
Shootimg is around 30€ (ammo and gun incluuded) and the other MPK courses are free.
Heel yeah! Thank you for letting us know my brother
I've been on a free MPK shooting course as well. The course consisted of rifle shooting and pistol shooting. :)
31:14 that rifle is made by finnish company Ensio Firearms and model is KAR-21
The instructor at 14:00 is really talking fast, even as Fin, I have hard time trying to understand him, I mean I understand, but my brain is going overdrive 😂 Thank you for all the great vids 🎉
TRA = Taistelu rakennetulla alueella = Fighting in urbanized areas/Urban warfare
you said he spoke fast at 14:30, well i am here to tell you that it only feels like it because he breathed in mid sentence. So there were no "pauses" to breath. To me a Finnish it sounded extremely clear perfect way to talk to someone who teaches.
he was i a hurry, or mid of training obviously. But some finns speak slofly. sincerely, Savolainen (ja nykyisin hämeessä :s)
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25:25 Train to go through ice into the water sucks 😉 It's all about the breathing. Get's pretty damn cold up here during the winter (Sweden, Finland & Norway)
Nice content
20:50 It's hight/altitude over sea surface in meters.
not a single comment is going to point out that at 12:07 the old gentleman has the worlds longest word written on his flashcard
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Hello a finn reservist here. :) in the few reserve exercises i have been to the voluntary ones were more basic stuff like range, patrol, checkpoints etc and when i got to the real deal we had 2 range days and then we did exactly what m unit would do in case of war. there were simulated air raids, other units/payed defense force personell acting as the opposing force or saboteurs and we had to function as we would in a real situation. Off course it was toned down so no excessive use of force for close combat etc.
I believe that the voluntary ones they invite people who have similar war time positions/jobs to the same exercise so no matter if some don't come we still have a functioning unit from people who would be doing the same things anyway even if its not the exact same people there would be in the unit one would be with in war. :)
25:59 That was Crotale, French SAM.
Yup, as long as i know its build in cooperation between Finnish Patria and French Crotale. Patria with their hull and vehicle in general, and Crotale with the systems radars, missiles etc. But im not entirely sure about. Nice system nonetheless
@@Kuutti_original It is an OK system. According to news from Ukraine, Russia has been able to shoot missiles from their helicopters 15km away, and mk. 3 Crotale has a range of 16km. So, it would be nice if it was a little bit more. Then again those helicopters shoot the missiles from a low altitude, so it might be difficult to hit them even with a longer range.
@@LeccareNewHandle Yeah, their operative style on helis is pretty.. different. Kind of just lobbing missiles as a fire support in the same role as artillery. While also conducting regular operations. Manpads seems to be most cost effective and flexible answer against them. Simply because its so much smaller target to see and doesnt require wide support around it. But it works well on our use here, one layer of the multilayered air defences.
About the review exercises, FDF also orders people to participate in those, and that's where certain people may be ordered, thus making it into a unit exercising together.
There is one place on earth people don't play with. That's the Scandinavian countries. Sweden/Finland/Norway. We tend to bully each other for fun. But we are bound in blood if anything should go serious. Also the Danes, who are our southern point of security are included.
Then there is Iceland which is mostly there for mental support :D
We finnish and swedes allways joke each other but when the shit hits the fan we are brothers. Much love to swedish brothers❤
From the beginning video when they were training urban area fighting I have to say that in Helsinki there is regiment that is specialized to it and most the techniques that they use come from Israel defence forces as they are definitely very experience in that. But what I also wanted to say is that even I did my service almost 20 years ago I still remember the room entry and take over techniques since we practiced those so much and I have done couple of review exercises. It was so much fun.
The interviewer Jere is just a cool guy. One of those dudes who has heart rate of 30 and propably sleeps in chair one eye open in his bunker just waiting for the call. Fully geared up for combat the way even Texans would be jealous ;D
those 3 digits at the end is the height above sea level
those last three digits u were wondering about was altitude from the sea level :) extremely important for us in the artillery.
Hi Mr Marine again! In Finnish Defence forces we have professional soldiers as a commanding back bone as for profession, but the conscripts are the foudation in our mandatory service for all men. After your mandatory service depending if you are good enough, you can serve first in officer training( if you have passed both very demanding IQ test psysholical tests ) and if you have enough capasity, you can go firs to officer trainig and after that to a armys 'High School' or if compared to other countries, more like in a univercity, from where you can rise from Lt to what ever... For those who have went trough lower officer classification or more, there is possibility to take a part of traing even if you have left the army. Finland is not as extreme as Israel in these regards, but fotr the same kinda geopolitical reasons, this is a bit of a must. Thank you again man... And it was almost heart warming to see you visiting our quite small country. Best wishes and take care!
Sorry to make some mistakes in spelling, but it always gets me a bit emotianal, when other people from a distance can still care. And to all of those people who still think, taht men or women who deside to serve in army are militants or 'war crazy', they are wrong. All disturbed people will be expelled from the service, at least in Finland. And if you have to go to a war, you definately don't want in your platoon or bigger group anything but mentally stable and strong persons.
@@MarkoMakela-mv8dt Yep, back 20+ years ago the guy in the bunk below mine did not have all of his screws tightened. Guy was slow, had to even teach him how to tie up shoe laces... Then in the first week when we were on a first march with our assault rifles we heard him muttering about how our whole line could be cut down if he had a full magazine. Let the sargent know who went to the captain and the next day that guy was gone.
Also it's even worse, if you are expelled or not qulified whatever reason@@tapiopuranen88. Your service records can be check by your employer and sometimes it's mandatory for certain professions. And you can even gain some extra points when you aspire for an educational institution if you have will to proceed in the Army and have a officer ranking. And it's not even bad in economics either. A bit more time spend, but not in vain.
And nice to se, that between us, we don't have use Finnish as it would mean nothing to 99% of all others on RUclips:P... So there is that too...@@tapiopuranen88
14:00, if you are active reservist, you do not have to pay anything if you show up in to course. If you do not show up and dont inform advance, then it is something like 40€ or something like that... If not active reservist, then you need to pay this small ammount.
I get why you would think Finnish is spoken super fast but there is an explanation that I think could help. Basically in Finnish we say less words than in English, even if the sentence contains the exact same thing. For example; "Could you put the oven on?" has the same meaning as "Voitko pistää uunin päälle?" (the word 'voitko' is shortened to be less formal, formally you could use 'voisitko' instead)
In Finnish we can add meaning to the word without using more words, instead the word just gains a bit more length. This is called a morpheme or in Finnish morfeemi. It's quite fascinating and a challenge to foreigners learning Finnish. If you're interested, I suggest googling more about it.
Hopefully this helped, thanks for an awesome video and I hope your day/night goes well :)
23:58 I'm pretty sure that was Crotale surface-to-air missile system. Might be wrong though.
Yeah it is Crotale system mounted on Patria Pasi XA-181 APC
All voluntary reserve training is free.. and even get payed few euro a day for the period of training
The vast majority of the training is free, and while some courses cost you, they're a nominal fee like 10-30€ depending on the content. Which really isn't much, especially considering you get other benefits including, like you said, getting compensated just for attending.
Also, some courses like parachuting and diving exercises can cost money on paper, but you're entitled to hazard aid, which is more than the course fee, so they're not just covered, you basically get paid to attend.
Though if you get called in as a reservist, they outright pay you on top of all the other benefits you get. Not US military grade pay, obviously, but pay nonetheless.
Hahaha NO WAY you have a Minecraft tune at the end 🤣 Nice touch
16:12 Upinniemi, hell yeah! served there
Nice to see Finland is not alone defending herself anymore like it was back WWII.
But, if we still were, it would not change a thing. I am one of the "reservist", age almost 50 and yeah I am ready to take the gun and go to defend my home land. Just like our grand fathers and moms did before us.
Ilman Saksaa oltaisiin oltu pitkälti yksin.
@@mwvidz324 eikä unohdeta Turkin merkittävää myötämielisyyttä!
Two fingers up in rest position is the oath of allegiance
”Passionate about being in the reserve” roughly translates as just being happy the intti is over
"How the Third Assault Division launched a counteroffensive on Bakhmut" reaction please
I think the combat shirt is Särmä TST L4 from Varusteleka
He is using an "Ispik" to pull himself out of the ice. It's a common tool all school children are taught to use when learning ice skating on lakes. I don't remember if we had one in our standard kit in the army though.
I checked out options for the courses organized by MPK and every course was totally free, even the ones that lasted multiple days and the courses included food, accommodation, insurance and clothing during the course. I guess Finnish Defence Forces pays the bills. There seemed to 30 EUR fine if you sign up for a course but newer show up in reality.
As a software engineer, MPK seems to organize cyber attack courses, too. There's a 3 day course in Helsinki in October 2023 where the reservists play blue team (cyber defence) and red team is trying to attack the services in the network. The course description doesn't explain who the red team players are. The course/game uses "live ammunition", that is, attackers can use any real world exploits they are aware of, but the game happens in a computer network that is not connected to actual internet. I live in Central Finland so I would have to travel a bit to be able to attend that course, though. All the computers and services in the network run unspecified Linux distributions.
Update: I found some courses where you learn to shoot with various guns without having to own a gun yourself. Those seemed to have course cost in range 10-30 EUR. That's pretty cheap considering the bullets alone cost way more.
As a Finn, I would like everyone to understand, what it meas to have reserve about 900.000 trained and motivated soldiers, in a country of population about 5.500.000. What that would mean in USA, China or Russia?
20:50 the last number is height ASL in meters
Plz come back to Finland! I was on the train going from Turku to Helsinki at the same time, you were going from Helsinki to Turku by train. So we missed each other by rail. Would love to meet you man.
Thanks for the video. Although I definitely support our defense forces, I sadly don't know much about what they do. Now I know a bit more which is awesome. Finnish Defense Forces held a handful of larger exercises in real-life surroundings at different areas of the country last summer, and the coastal town I live in was one of the lucky ones. I live downtown, and unfortunately I didn't get to see anything from my balcony. And obviously I didn't want to go snoop anywhere else and be an obstruction to anything. One evening I started hearing something where I thought "is that artillery, or what is going on" but it turned out to be fireworks from a private event nearby. I was kind of disappointed, I have to admit.