"To understand why democracy is the worst form of government all you need is a short conversation about politics with the average citizen. " Winston Churchill
Every year the UN General Assembly tables a resolution for a worldwide vote: *_"Do you condemn the rise of Nazism in the world today?"_* The USA, Canada UK and Europe vote *"NO"* - every year.
@@ptaalman100 no, the best system is a constitutional republic. The minority have rights that the majority can't criminalize. Leftists romanticize the idea of democracy but they are the first ones to cry when the majority votes to ban things like gay marriage. They only want democracy when they think the majority will side with them.
If she is against Italian nationalism, then criticize Italy as a nation, not an antiquated hand gesture by a teenage minority at night. She even admits that being a nationalist is not yet a crime in Italy. It's clickbait.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
In Mexico we salute to the flag like that, I dont think there is a provocation. Also, every country should be proud of their roots, Italians to their history as strong civilization
Italy would never drop old Roman Salute; because IF that do not like winners of ww2 or Israel, or all Jews all around the world. THAT SALUTE IS ITALIAN HERITAGE AND TRADITION. MUCH MUCH TIME BEFORE FASCISM OR MUSSOLINI. And, if winners of ww2 got problem with that?! So what! Italy do not care about that!
History keeps on repeating itself again and again and again! Circle of life in this World, What goes up must go down, spinning wheels spinning down and up! We just make the most out of it! As Mahatma Ghandi once said, We must be the change we wish to see in this World! K
I have to wonder, I mean this being you? How do you feel about Mahatma Ghandi and the fact that he and the little moustache man were such great friends? Or is that best left swept under the rug?
The Romans took the "Nazi" salute from the Hellenes. Like everything in this world the Hellenic salute became the Roman fascist salute which then became the Nazi salute. The swastika is not a German Nazi symbol but a Hellenic symbol known as tetragamma.
Hitler stole the salute from the ancient Romans.. there’s plenty of evidence.. Trajan's Column, monument that was erected in 106-113 ce. They’re saluting the same way hitler did.. Julius Caesar has statues of him saluting.. is Ceasar a Nazi now? also the swastika is one of if not the most oldest symbols in history. Still a mystery how this symbol spread across earth over 10,000 years ago to all corners of the globe. Italians performing an ancient traditional salute is not because they’re nazis.
Don't confuse things. One thing is loving your country and another thing is supporting totatilarian and murderous ideologies like fascism and communism.
@@matiasrodriguez3286well if you want to avoid that then don't destroy your own country. It's going to destroy your own country either way something like that is going to happen because you're destroying your own country
@@matiasrodriguez3286 Glad that you mentioned the Communism - some weirdos still think it was some sort of utopia, ex soviet controlled regions know better...
@@matiasrodriguez3286 We have had the extreme doctrines of the hard Left and Wokism causing the problems that have lead to this normal, although unpleasant, reaction. If the Left and Wokists loved their countries (which they don't) then action would have been taken to control immigration before it got to this point and this wouldn't be happening at all. I'm not going to condemn people who love their country fighting for it even if i think they are extremists. Extremists brought this upon us and maybe we need extremists to stop it as mainstream politicians certainly aren't going to.
@@AbouGoma-g2p No one pushes them. They'll use any excuse to join these movements. Their ideology is that they're superior to others. They just waiting for the right moments to strike. IsraHell is a good example.
Such nonsense. They have no idea. This is not a Nazi salute but a fascist salute! The fools don't know the difference between Nazism and Fascism! Fascism arose parallel to Nazism but wasn't the same! Whereby both ideologies are similar in some points because both ideologies are ultra-nationalist, organized according to the leader principle, racist, anti-democratic and anti-communist. But the racist and anti-Semitic aspect of Nazism was much more extreme. There is a great difference between Fascism and Nazism that is not insignificant. There is a big difference between Nazism and European fascism. That was a German special way! With Nazism, they have developed an ideology that completely contradicts the Enlightenment and made it their state doctrine. A complete break of civilization! Such degree of barbarism has never happened in human history! That was unique in human history. The main difference between European fascism and German Nazism is that the Nazism had an unprecedented and unique drastic nature and ruthlessness. So in summary a far greater degree of radicalism. The circumstance can also be used to derive the far greater degree of brutality, to deduce the higher degree of barbarism, to deduce the higher degree of dehumanization of the victims, which resulted in industrial mass murder, the higher degree of penetration of society with ideology, deduce the higher degree of willingness to sacrifice of the population, the higher degree of readiness to touche force and violence. The consequences of fascism are also not comparable with the consequences of Nazism, which is known to include various genocides with millions of murdered children of various nationalities. In any case, Nazism arose independently of Fascism. This thinking from which this Nazism ideology arose had already arisen in the 19th century in the Bismarck state. Actually, even the aggressive, very militarized Prussian state in the 19th century before the founding of the German unified state in 1871 was a forerunner of the Nazi state, because the beginning of Nazism was already in this state. The beginnings are already evident in the 19th century. The origin of the Nazi ideology was actually already Prussia which was continued in the German Kaiserreich! The term used by the Nazis for "living space in the east" ( "Lebensraum im Osten" ) which was an important aspect of Nazi ideology was also developed in the 19th century especially in Prussia. This idea was then spread from Prussia to all the German small states. With reference to the medieval conquest of German-speaking settlers in the Baltic States, the idea of German colonization of Eastern Europe became increasingly popular. The idea was widespread in German society from the German natural right to rule and colonize the Slavic and Baltic areas east of Germany. In this context, the Germanization of Poland was propagated as the highest goal of Prussian politics. The idea of solving the social problems and the supposed overpopulation of Germany by gaining new settlement areas in Eastern Europe was expressed with the catchphrase “nation without space”. The German war aims in World War I were also shaped by the idea of conquering large areas in the east. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk clearly testifies to this urge to expand to the east, in which the Bolsheviks who ruled Russia were forced to cede vast territories to Germany. The Alldeutsche Verband (Pan-German Association), which was founded in 1891, also aimed at a military expansion of the German "living space" and policy of subjugation. Its program was expansionist, pan-Germanic, militaristic, nationalistic and determined by racist and anti-Semitic ways of thinking. The Alldeutsche Verband was organized regionally in local groups that also existed abroad. The Alldeutsche Verband was permeated by the teachings of so-called social Darwinism and by the struggle for existence, by the law of the strongest and the conviction that the German people needed more living space in order to survive. Well, is that known? Yes, that sounds a lot like the NAZI party. By the way, the Nazi party also had foreign organizations! The Alldeutsche Verband and other organizations of this kind were in fact the forerunners of the Nazi Party NSDAP! There are other various examples of organizations, clubs and other organizations that prepared Nazism as well as ideological precursors of Nazism in this state as early as the 19th century, which I cannot list them all. So in summary one can say that Nazism did not arise from fascism, but the forerunners in the German state of the 19th century were from which Nazism then emerged. Furthermore, there was a big difference between Nazism and Fascism.
Absolutely not. This is what the Western countries assumed about nazi Germany, we know full well what happened next. Only idiots repeat the same mistakes. Freedom is not a suicide pact.
Free speech absolutism is an utopian idea. In reality like every right there are limitations. There is consequence to our words and people need to be held accountable.
@@khaltsharivist365l want to know who you you think needs to be held accountable and to whom? And who has the right/authority to decide that for other people?
@@khaltsharivist365 That's a slippery slope that sounds like an Orwell plot. Are words dangerous? To people? No. To power structures? Yes indeed. And if we give the government the power to censor speech, and decide WHAT speech to censor and punish, we're on the road to hell. I prefer hurt feelings as opposed to jailing people who hurt our feelings.
First of all, it's not the Nazi salute, it's the Roman salute. This group of people has been meeting for 40 years (so it is NOT new) in front of the old headquarters of the MSI, a completely legitimate political party, which has no longer existed from about 29 years and which has NOT merged into the current party of the Prime Minister Meloni, in memory of three young people (18,19 and 20 years old) who in 1978 were killed in an ambush set by a far-left terrorist organisation. The culprits were never caught. You reported many inaccuracies, evidently not knowing the recent history of Italy. This attack contributed to the degeneracy of political violence and ideological hatred between the opposing extremist factions in the Anni di Piombo (Years of Lead), a sad period characterized by violence and massacres perpetuated by extremists of the right and left.
If it were not for feelings, I'd imagine we wouldn't have much need for speech. So this isn't really a statement about speech but one about whose feelings or sentiments are legitamized and whose others are disregarded. Of course, there are some sentiments that acknowledge the human condition, its reason, and its variation, and then there are sentiments that reverberate a desire for power and oppression over others because of a distorted perception of self and their own vulnerability.
Ah yes, muh free speech. A comment on a video about n@zis doing the roman salute. I wonder therefore why oh why only the far right supports "free speech". No your sh!tty opinions should not be tolerated.
as long as the media and politicians refuse to acknowledge the reasons, which they are very open about, then their power grows, when the politicians and media do not listen, the anger just grows, I hope you don't wait too long to change course.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far-left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
Hunger is not a sign that it is God who is dealing with you. Scripture also said " a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the arms so shall poverty come upon you like a Bandit. That is why we need knowledge of saving and investment. It is advisable not to eat our tomorrow and the future of our children today...
it's actually a Roman salute which was then used again by fascists in the 20th century. They have no idea. This is not a Nazi salute but a fascist salute! The fools don't know the difference between Nazism and Fascism! Fascism arose parallel to Nazism but wasn't the same! Whereby both ideologies are similar in some points because both ideologies are ultra-nationalist, organized according to the leader principle, racist, anti-democratic and anti-communist. But the racist and anti-Semitic aspect of Nazism was much more extreme. There is a great difference between Fascism and Nazism that is not insignificant. There is a big difference between Nazism and European fascism. That was a German special way! With Nazism, they have developed an ideology that completely contradicts the Enlightenment and made it their state doctrine. A complete break of civilization! Such degree of barbarism has never happened in human history! That was unique in human history. The main difference between European fascism and German Nazism is that the Nazism had an unprecedented and unique drastic nature and ruthlessness. So in summary a far greater degree of radicalism. The circumstance can also be used to derive the far greater degree of brutality, to deduce the higher degree of barbarism, to deduce the higher degree of dehumanization of the victims, which resulted in industrial mass murder, the higher degree of penetration of society with ideology, deduce the higher degree of willingness to sacrifice of the population, the higher degree of readiness to touche force and violence. The consequences of fascism are also not comparable with the consequences of Nazism, which is known to include various genocides with millions of murdered children of various nationalities. In any case, Nazism arose independently of Fascism. This thinking from which this Nazism ideology arose had already arisen in the 19th century in the Bismarck state. Actually, even the aggressive, very militarized Prussian state in the 19th century before the founding of the German unified state in 1871 was a forerunner of the Nazi state, because the beginning of Nazism was already in this state. The beginnings are already evident in the 19th century. The origin of the Nazi ideology was actually already Prussia which was continued in the German Kaiserreich! The term used by the Nazis for "living space in the east" ( "Lebensraum im Osten" ) which was an important aspect of Nazi ideology was also developed in the 19th century especially in Prussia. This idea was then spread from Prussia to all the German small states. With reference to the medieval conquest of German-speaking settlers in the Baltic States, the idea of German colonization of Eastern Europe became increasingly popular. The idea was widespread in German society from the German natural right to rule and colonize the Slavic and Baltic areas east of Germany. In this context, the Germanization of Poland was propagated as the highest goal of Prussian politics. The idea of solving the social problems and the supposed overpopulation of Germany by gaining new settlement areas in Eastern Europe was expressed with the catchphrase “nation without space”. The German war aims in World War I were also shaped by the idea of conquering large areas in the east. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk clearly testifies to this urge to expand to the east, in which the Bolsheviks who ruled Russia were forced to cede vast territories to Germany. The Alldeutsche Verband (Pan-German Association), which was founded in 1891, also aimed at a military expansion of the German "living space" and policy of subjugation. Its program was expansionist, pan-Germanic, militaristic, nationalistic and determined by racist and anti-Semitic ways of thinking. The Alldeutsche Verband was organized regionally in local groups that also existed abroad. The Alldeutsche Verband was permeated by the teachings of so-called social Darwinism and by the struggle for existence, by the law of the strongest and the conviction that the German people needed more living space in order to survive. Well, is that known? Yes, that sounds a lot like the NAZI party. By the way, the Nazi party also had foreign organizations! The Alldeutsche Verband and other organizations of this kind were in fact the forerunners of the Nazi Party NSDAP! There are other various examples of organizations, clubs and other organizations that prepared Nazism as well as ideological precursors of Nazism in this state as early as the 19th century, which I cannot list them all. So in summary one can say that Nazism did not arise from fascism, but the forerunners in the German state of the 19th century were from which Nazism then emerged. Furthermore, there was a big difference between Nazism and Fascism.
Why do you think that the nazis and other fascists took that salute from the ancient Romans? Those guys were the OG fascists. Different times, of course. But let's not pretend that the salute isn't a clear symbol of fascism.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
It's nothing serious, it was a houndred of them commemorating three guys shot dead back in 1978 killed with firearms by Far Left terrorists. This commemaration occurs every year since that date... I'd be worried of the nazi in Ukrain and what Israel is doing in Gaza
All are entitled to think, pray and voice their opinion on anything as long as they do not promote and take part in violence in order to silence others, all must be heard even if you do not agree! Nver shy away from an opportunity to converse with people who disagree with you, you will be better for it!
Mind Begs the Question: - Nazi Media provided platform - For Hate Speech against Jews - If a Media provide platform - For Hate Speech against Muslims - Not akin to Nazi Media?
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
I mean the definition of what deserves to be banned and what isn't is ultimately up to whoever is in charge, which means that; there is no universal consensus on what should and should not be banned. That is why things like Fascism are not banned, because it opens up banning of opponents off of claims of them being Fascist or like them. When you can ban fascists, everyone is suddenly a fascist.
The west is already fascist, for fascism is corporatism and the west's corporate NGOs are inseparable from their governments. Anecdote: When Julian Assange once called the U.S State Department from the Ecuadorian embassy where he was held up, and left a message for a return call from Hillary Clinton, he instead got a call back from the girlfriend of the CEO of Google. Fact.
there's definitely universal consensus. the problem is that only well off peoples voices are considered deserving of consideration. only 1% of the entire human species is not living in squalor and poverty right now. im pretty sure 99% of us agree that rich people either shouldnt exist or shouldnt have any political power. they abuse it 110% of the timne
In Italy the constitution litterally forbids to contitute a fascist party, so it would be perfectly legal. Fascism is a very precise thing in Italy, it is nothing arbitrary
I want everyone to notice they are saluting with their left hand, not the right... This is symbolic of evil. The Roman salute was done with the right hand, honoring divinity. The left hand salute honors Satan. This is the "Black Lodge" at work. Go and learn.
@servanttofriend8481 Have you taken your meds today? Neither left or right has to do with honouring anything, its simply a military salute from the Roman times, the Brazilian army uses it as well
It's the Roman salute and was used long before the natsees. Curiously a form of this salute was often used in the Olympic games but fell out of use after ww2 for obvious reasons.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far-left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
And the swastika is an ancient symbol for dozens of cultures across Eurasia and North America. But we know why most people (aside from Buddhists, Hindus and Jains) use it today. Let's not kid ourselves
I remember what Stalin said about Italian soldiers. When asked about two more Italian armies being deployed, he smiled and said, let them send more. LOL! Fight Back huh, this is how u NAZIs do.
dude, you dont have a genetic family that makes each country of people a different type of human being. if you want to expand your culture, perhaps dont make it revolve around elitism and exclusivity. otherwise, all you can do is shrink as the species grows. your economic system only wants to consolidate. so your culture follows suite.
@@saturationstation1446Best bet we have of erasing italian culture from history is refusing immigration and continue to enjoy the demographic winter of our oh so pure blood country (what a joke, we're so mixed our genome is more uneven than that of separate nations, and that's just because history). Replacement conspiracy theorists are total nutjobs. Total foreign population here is 8% and we hear shit brains complaining that 92% of the population is a fucking minority
Well USA and NATO have supported this in Ukraine making it acceptable…..Azoz Battalion and atrocities before war on Russian-Ukrainians in Donbas region!
I'm sure it was banned by the small hat tribe who goes around lying about what really happened during WWII. I guess when you own 95% of the media, it's easy to get the world to believe a bunch of lies.
As an Indian, I admit that we Indians have been slaves to the British for more than 300 years, but now we are the sons of the British Empire, and I am proud of it.
Obviously, they cannot do that. Because then people would quickly realize what Fascism really is (it's not the Communist behavior that was projected onto it, to confuse people), which would be The End for neo-, woke-, cultural Marxism, for ever. Marxism cannot survive on the free market of ideologies, hence the censorship we see on leftist platforms like RUclips.
Thank You for your intelligent comment, Alextrebek...You cannot "Ban" the human mind. They've been trying to "outlaw" true Fascism for 80 years, and yet in continues to grow!
Our hands were meant to be straight,here it mean to be raised upwards.But most of our hands in the assembly were either up like the Nazi salute or down .
Palki needs to focus more on her own country tbh where the symbol of the swastika is quite common! It also has a vigorous apartheid system towards the Dalits that needs to be addressed. Just saying.
They have Hindu supremcist same problem in India as all countries become more nationalistic and more wanting refugees out and immigration to stop as they are being taxed to death and price hike on all sides but is it due to immigration...nope..but it sure focuses all the faults of governments on to the most vulnerable and minority groups and easy target ..but like you say yes history does repeat it self .the greedy of got greedier and they think they can govern us better then our governments..I'm starting to wonder my self..but they are just as extremist in their ideologies as well. Who can we trust to look after our welfare and our health systems if they have been cut back and monies sent to war in countries where more refugees will come over to flee..war is definitely a racket and never changes.
I think its the repercussions or the after effects of mass isl..c migration into the europe. It might be seen frequently in the streets in coming years. As democracy isn’t able to control the migration crisis and people are more terrified. Europe need to act on both sides simultaneously.
This is idiotic propaganda because this same group has been meeting and performing this ritual since the 1970's. Europe has gone all in on the Banderites in Ukraine so this mincing seems rather juvenile.
Own land..people s culture is threatened by migrants ..natives shd take decision to safeguard ladies ..land.main enemy is uncontrolled democracy..too much broadmind especially ven enemy is bad. Pray for eu and d world.
@@Mudshovel-xx6se your comment made assumptions that all indians come there illegally. But most that go to west go there legally .they pay heavy money and wait and do legal procedures that takes years. Even student who go for education pay alot of money . Our poor labour class generally goes to middle east legally. Not to west .most white collar people like tech guys ,doctors ,nurses ,scientists go to west as the infrastructure is better for that specific field. I am not talking in absolutes some might be there illegally and govt should send them back . I am not a hypocrate. I don't like illegal people infiltrating my country and I don't want illegals for any country be it middle east or west. Respect law of land and behave and contribute to the country you are legally .period.
but what if NAZI ideology is dee only one who can save Europe from multiculturalisation? many indigenous European people do not like Islam taking over their land. what other options do they have to make this right?
If Nazi ideology can stop Islam from islamizing Europe and other countries, there is no harm in it. Minorities are non-existent in Islamic countries. Why should Muslims spread and occupy other countries? Put Nazi in context as the clown of a Sec Gen of UN said for Hamas massacres which he did not condemn.
Censorship of people leads to a rise of right wing people. Replacing people or races leads to the same. People need to understand this. Do not censor, bring in rational arguments and speak the truth
@@magnacarta9364Economic hardship for some, refugee crisis for some. Total ignorance for all! They are blaming the wrong people for their economic hardship. The refugees are the victims of the same powers that be, the greedy vampires sucking the lifeblood out regular folk. The victims of the world's warmongers who sow division as a distraction from their gathering and hoarding of the world's resources. The filty rich are getting richer and the rest of us are getting poorer. Our children can no longer expect to do better than their parents. They are expected to do worse. People are living paycheck to paycheck, those who can even get a paycheck. Homelessness is on the rise everywhere etc, etc. etc. While the Jeff Bezoses of the world flying high, into space while thanking his staff for making it possible as they pee into bottles to save time for making quotas. Ignorant folk know that the system is not working and they've been manipulated into thinking this is going to fix it.
It's something that goes on every year from 1978. What's truly interesting is why people are speaking about it now, and why are they so shocked. I mean, it appened even during left governments.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
@@kimmogensen4888 Just a quick history 1-2-1, both of the bloodiest world wars were fought between European Countries, Slavery was started and legalised in Europe, Europe fought Opium wars, Maximum atrocities on working class were executed by elite European on their own people during Industrial Revolution…
@@pearls1626 What is Karma in Europe,The people who sped up the world and the people who advanced it,Sure the governments are bad but aren’t all ? Also the ones who have had enough are the Europeans the real ones,Not the invasion terrible cultures.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
The issue isnt about banning. The issue is that what the west is doing to adress is problems isnt working. That only leaves people with two choices, to look backwards or to look forward. You can see what they picked.
So why European go all around the world then...?? Stealing and taking what's not there's if all they wanted to be left alone...you are confirming what everyone already knew ....Africans ..native Americans ...aborigines..every where you step foot you killed and stole ...and now "your" here saying they want to be left alone .....p.s Jesus is coming back and no he's not white ..and neither is heaven...so ...thanks for confirming your fate
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
I honestly don’t care got more time to focus on this country to give a shite. Italy aren’t attacking anyone and it’s most likely about immigration so let them do whatever and focus more on ur own country 😎😎
the pledge of allegiance is Way different than the Nazi Salute! Theres Nothing wrong with Loving your country BUT when you start hating other countries or people that's when you are an idiot
@@gtrdxz If a country wants freedom, and it gives freedom of expression to Hitler, and he using this freedom of expression to turn the country into Naz!sm, the country will stop be a freedom country… A COUNTRY THAT REALLY WANTS FREEDOM MUST NOT GIVE FREEDOM FOR EXPRESSION OF UNFREEDOM.
@@AshrafAli-is4wv no humen wants to be unfreedom, its basic need. Unfreedom means they cant to many things, while freedom make them do whatever they want (of-course with security limits)… freedom cant hurt anyone
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
There’s something that you probably should know the American salute was the same until World War 2 and it wasn’t originally from Germany. It was originally the Roman Empire salute. The big question is should the Roman salute or even the swastika be defined by one instance in history, making them forever evil.
We are under the roman rule of law. The roman empire never died. Look around you on and in public buildings, bank notes, flags, etc. you will see the roman eagle.
Yes The Roman empire is the secular representation of the dark side. The Roman empire includes the Vatican the monarchy and the USA political axis It is through the Roman empire that we will see the Globalist empire established with OWG and OWR I think banning is helpful. Nazis with the swastika are rife in Ukraine with NATO support . It doesn't stop the mindset but it draws a line
The Roman salute starts with the fist on the heart before raising it extended. The Nazi salute which is being done here skips the first step. They're also dressed in black, an homage to the Blackshirts that Mussolini employed to intimidate dissenters and political opponents. You really need to learn your history.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
Not everything, for example hate speech needs to be banned else it is not democracy. Democracy can only exist because of conversation and discussions, because of free speech. Hate speech doesnt want any of that.
"Banning the Nazi salute opens the Pandora's box." The Pandora's box has been open for decades in France and, as a French, I can confirm politics is a joke here.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years. Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
@@rokis23 Thank you for these elements on the historical and political context. As you understood, my point was (1) on the legal issue (2) in France. Let me add the following. As experts put it, contrary to wearing uniforms and displaying paraphernalia, the salute per se is not an offense in the French books, BUT the courts condemn it nevertheless as an incitement to racial hatred. (And it is forbidden as such in stadiums.) Thus, where the law actually forbids, say, the display of Nazi flags, the guilty may have to pay a 1,500€ fine, but where the law says nothing but courts nevertheless filled in the gap, then one may incur 1 year in prison and a 45,000€ fine. The legislator said nothing on the salute but the salute is punished as racial hatred, whose penalties are substantially heavier than for Nazi uniforms and objects that are statutorily punished by a much smaller fine, even though the obvious display of objects, if the salute is racial hatred, is racial hatred by the same token. So much so for the consistency of the legislation. Finally, neither the law nor the courts limit the scope of the law to the Nazi party; their phrasing targets organizations condemned by the Nuremberg and other trials in 1945 AND other organizations condemned for crimes against humanity. Which means displaying the Israeli flag should be punished by French courts if the ICJ rules that Israel has committed or is committing genocide.
This was not a nazi rally, let alone it is not the nazi salute but the fascist one, the fascist one is not as stiff and the palm is slightly out while the nazi one is at a straight, stiff angle. This rally is a fascist tribute that has been held every anniversary of the Acca Larentia killings where two MSI youth activists where gunned down and another wounded in 1978 and later on another killed by a police officer who fired at a crowd. This is the 46th one since the killings happened. Franco Biganzetti 20, and Francesco Ciavatta 19, where youth wing members of the MSI, they passed out pamphlets for the movement, and where murdered by communisti who fired a sub machine gun at them in front of the MSI headquarters while passing out pamphlets. In response to the killings the MSI held many riots and protests, during one of the protests a Carabinieri officer fired into the crowed and wounded several protestors and fatally killing Stefano Reccioni 18. they never found the killer and the officer who fired at the crowd was never tried and simply let go, so every year since it happened they hold a rally in there honor to pay tribute to there fallen comrades who died fighting for the revolution. They say there names followed by a fascist salute and chanting Presente to mean they are still present and remembered for the sacrifice of there lives for the movement. They do the same thing for memorials and reunions for fallen RSI soldiers. This has nothing to do with the rise of more nationalistic movements in Europe of fascism in post war Italia, it is fascists paying tribute to fallen comrades as they always do, the opposition is just making up excuses and anybody who attacks them for this are saying they do not have a right to mourn there comrades who where murdered violently at a young age for there beliefs.
@@Desertfox18 They will take back their country from neo-liberals and financial elites who want to rob them of their future. Irrelevant whether or not Italians are the majority if they still don't control their country.
Most governments in the world are dropping the boot on the people's face
And importing the third world
THEY are the real what they called fascists..
No , they are not.
And why is this host not sitting in her homeland speaking? How on earth does she have the balls to sit our lands speaking her shit.
@DAWNRISINGSOPHIA shut it down
This is what happens when people are pushed too far.
They are being pushed too far deliberately into the hands of corporate fascism....the oldest ploy on earth by power.
To take scapegoats to vent their anger 🤔
@@i.222 Speak English
@@phillawrence5148 That was english. Did you not understand?
@@samirSch No, because it doesn't make sense you spaz
"To understand why democracy is the worst form of government all you need is a short conversation about politics with the average citizen. "
Winston Churchill
Very good qoute And still they say he is a racist fucking morons it is actually Karl Marx who the racist also madman.
Every year the UN General Assembly tables a resolution for a worldwide vote:
*_"Do you condemn the rise of Nazism in the world today?"_*
The USA, Canada UK and Europe vote *"NO"* - every year.
Yes he did. But he also said: "It's (democracy) still the best system we have."
Churchill was a lunatic mass murderer that killed millions of his people
ofc he didnt want the average soldier to have a voice
@@ptaalman100 no, the best system is a constitutional republic. The minority have rights that the majority can't criminalize. Leftists romanticize the idea of democracy but they are the first ones to cry when the majority votes to ban things like gay marriage. They only want democracy when they think the majority will side with them.
The muslim has waken the real Europeon nationalist thay too deep right wing one.
That's a Roman salute, not a Nazi salute. What country is Rome the capital of?
If she is against Italian nationalism, then criticize Italy as a nation, not an antiquated hand gesture by a teenage minority at night. She even admits that being a nationalist is not yet a crime in Italy. It's clickbait.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
Il rispetto dei diritti degli altri è pace
In Mexico we salute to the flag like that, I dont think there is a provocation. Also, every country should be proud of their roots, Italians to their history as strong civilization
Italy would never drop old Roman Salute; because IF that do not like winners of ww2 or Israel, or all Jews all around the world. THAT SALUTE IS ITALIAN HERITAGE AND TRADITION. MUCH MUCH TIME BEFORE FASCISM OR MUSSOLINI. And, if winners of ww2 got problem with that?! So what! Italy do not care about that!
It's not Nazi salute get your facts right.
It's was adopted by Hitler from Musolini. So it's their fascist tradition. Not German Nazis.
History keeps on repeating itself again and again and again! Circle of life in this World, What goes up must go down, spinning wheels spinning down and up! We just make the most out of it! As Mahatma Ghandi once said, We must be the change we wish to see in this World! K
Romans once more giving the Roman salute.
Gandhi was a racist. He also did not free India. Hitler did by bankrupting Britain.
@@PinkdamMany in Italy are Germanic frauds who wish they were native. Meloni belongs in Germany where her barbaric ancestors were from.
Yes it's why we need to stand with Israel who is facing an evil worse than national socialism.
@@Pinkdam That was still a "history repeats again" part
“The salute dares back to the Roman Empire”
The salute was seen in Rome. 😂😂
Most anarchists act like fascists in Europe. Why is no one making an episode about that?
that's actually the Roman salute. It originated there
Yes, is a true.
Pooing in the streets is the most traumatic thing I can think of.
Thank God I don't live in India.
You can't force people. Simple as that!
They never condemmed the finger pointing up that muslims who fights in muslim countries do.
I have to wonder, I mean this being you? How do you feel about Mahatma Ghandi and the fact that he and the little moustache man were such great friends? Or is that best left swept under the rug?
The Romans took the "Nazi" salute from the Hellenes. Like everything in this world the Hellenic salute became the Roman fascist salute which then became the Nazi salute. The swastika is not a German Nazi symbol but a Hellenic symbol known as tetragamma.
Freedom of expression, a term you should be familiar with.
Hitler stole the salute from the ancient Romans.. there’s plenty of evidence.. Trajan's Column, monument that was erected in 106-113 ce. They’re saluting the same way hitler did.. Julius Caesar has statues of him saluting.. is Ceasar a Nazi now? also the swastika is one of if not the most oldest symbols in history. Still a mystery how this symbol spread across earth over 10,000 years ago to all corners of the globe. Italians performing an ancient traditional salute is not because they’re nazis.
Correction Hitler copied that salute. It was the roman empire salute
Someone should tell them they lost the war! Education is def best! A ban won't work!
She is the first fascist prime minister in history of italian republic.
oh give us a break, she is not a fashist, she is a conservative Christian valued leader!
communists raising fist is also offensive then since communists killed a lot more people than zanis
Actually it's not the "nazi salute" is the much more ancient roman salute also used by fascists and nazi, well stolen is a better word then used.
Freedom of speech should include freedom to salute in any way one wants to. Full stop.
It's inevitable when people see their country being destroyed...should not surprise anyone.
Don't confuse things. One thing is loving your country and another thing is supporting totatilarian and murderous ideologies like fascism and communism.
@@matiasrodriguez3286well if you want to avoid that then don't destroy your own country. It's going to destroy your own country either way something like that is going to happen because you're destroying your own country
@@matiasrodriguez3286 Glad that you mentioned the Communism - some weirdos still think it was some sort of utopia, ex soviet controlled regions know better...
@@matiasrodriguez3286 You're the one confusing things. What do you think drives people to this? How do you think Hitler came to power
@@matiasrodriguez3286 We have had the extreme doctrines of the hard Left and Wokism causing the problems that have lead to this normal, although unpleasant, reaction. If the Left and Wokists loved their countries (which they don't) then action would have been taken to control immigration before it got to this point and this wouldn't be happening at all. I'm not going to condemn people who love their country fighting for it even if i think they are extremists. Extremists brought this upon us and maybe we need extremists to stop it as mainstream politicians certainly aren't going to.
coming from an Indian whose leader is a fascist no one talks about
I am indian, and you are correct
@@PiratedBoyRahul gandhi
Coming from Biden fan communists
Define fascism
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It happens when you push people to much
Stop making wars then
Who pushed them ?
@@AbouGoma-g2p No one pushes them. They'll use any excuse to join these movements. Their ideology is that they're superior to others. They just waiting for the right moments to strike. IsraHell is a good example.
@@AbouGoma-g2p Screeching anti-whites and their garbage bin mythology
@@AbouGoma-g2p Islamic immigrants
You don't come to Truth by banning speech. You come to it by having MORE speech.
Such nonsense. They have no idea. This is not a Nazi salute but a fascist salute! The fools don't know the difference between Nazism and Fascism! Fascism arose parallel to Nazism but wasn't the same! Whereby both ideologies are similar in some points because both ideologies are ultra-nationalist, organized according to the leader principle, racist, anti-democratic and anti-communist. But the racist and anti-Semitic aspect of Nazism was much more extreme. There is a great difference between Fascism and Nazism that is not insignificant. There is a big difference between Nazism and European fascism. That was a German special way! With Nazism, they have developed an ideology that completely contradicts the Enlightenment and made it their state doctrine. A complete break of civilization! Such degree of barbarism has never happened in human history! That was unique in human history. The main difference between European fascism and German Nazism is that the Nazism had an unprecedented and unique drastic nature and ruthlessness. So in summary a far greater degree of radicalism. The circumstance can also be used to derive the far greater degree of brutality, to deduce the higher degree of barbarism, to deduce the higher degree of dehumanization of the victims, which resulted in industrial mass murder, the higher degree of penetration of society with ideology, deduce the higher degree of willingness to sacrifice of the population, the higher degree of readiness to touche force and violence. The consequences of fascism are also not comparable with the consequences of Nazism, which is known to include various genocides with millions of murdered children of various nationalities.
In any case, Nazism arose independently of Fascism. This thinking from which this Nazism ideology arose had already arisen in the 19th century in the Bismarck state. Actually, even the aggressive, very militarized Prussian state in the 19th century before the founding of the German unified state in 1871 was a forerunner of the Nazi state, because the beginning of Nazism was already in this state. The beginnings are already evident in the 19th century. The origin of the Nazi ideology was actually already Prussia which was continued in the German Kaiserreich! The term used by the Nazis for "living space in the east" ( "Lebensraum im Osten" ) which was an important aspect of Nazi ideology was also developed in the 19th century especially in Prussia. This idea was then spread from Prussia to all the German small states. With reference to the medieval conquest of German-speaking settlers in the Baltic States, the idea of German colonization of Eastern Europe became increasingly popular. The idea was widespread in German society from the German natural right to rule and colonize the Slavic and Baltic areas east of Germany. In this context, the Germanization of Poland was propagated as the highest goal of Prussian politics. The idea of solving the social problems and the supposed overpopulation of Germany by gaining new settlement areas in Eastern Europe was expressed with the catchphrase “nation without space”. The German war aims in World War I were also shaped by the idea of conquering large areas in the east. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk clearly testifies to this urge to expand to the east, in which the Bolsheviks who ruled Russia were forced to cede vast territories to Germany.
The Alldeutsche Verband (Pan-German Association), which was founded in 1891, also aimed at a military expansion of the German "living space" and policy of subjugation. Its program was expansionist, pan-Germanic, militaristic, nationalistic and determined by racist and anti-Semitic ways of thinking. The Alldeutsche Verband was organized regionally in local groups that also existed abroad. The Alldeutsche Verband was permeated by the teachings of so-called social Darwinism and by the struggle for existence, by the law of the strongest and the conviction that the German people needed more living space in order to survive. Well, is that known? Yes, that sounds a lot like the NAZI party. By the way, the Nazi party also had foreign organizations! The Alldeutsche Verband and other organizations of this kind were in fact the forerunners of the Nazi Party NSDAP! There are other various examples of organizations, clubs and other organizations that prepared Nazism as well as ideological precursors of Nazism in this state as early as the 19th century, which I cannot list them all.
So in summary one can say that Nazism did not arise from fascism, but the forerunners in the German state of the 19th century were from which Nazism then emerged. Furthermore, there was a big difference between Nazism and Fascism.
Absolutely not. This is what the Western countries assumed about nazi Germany, we know full well what happened next. Only idiots repeat the same mistakes. Freedom is not a suicide pact.
Free speech absolutism is an utopian idea. In reality like every right there are limitations. There is consequence to our words and people need to be held accountable.
@@khaltsharivist365l want to know who you you think needs to be held accountable and to whom? And who has the right/authority to decide that for other people?
@@khaltsharivist365 That's a slippery slope that sounds like an Orwell plot. Are words dangerous? To people? No. To power structures? Yes indeed. And if we give the government the power to censor speech, and decide WHAT speech to censor and punish, we're on the road to hell. I prefer hurt feelings as opposed to jailing people who hurt our feelings.
I think italy forgot what happened to them in Greece, and Ethiopia 😂😂😂 no problem they will learn again.
First of all, it's not the Nazi salute, it's the Roman salute. This group of people has been meeting for 40 years (so it is NOT new) in front of the old headquarters of the MSI, a completely legitimate political party, which has no longer existed from about 29 years and which has NOT merged into the current party of the Prime Minister Meloni, in memory of three young people (18,19 and 20 years old) who in 1978 were killed in an ambush set by a far-left terrorist organisation.
The culprits were never caught.
You reported many inaccuracies, evidently not knowing the recent history of Italy.
This attack contributed to the degeneracy of political violence and ideological hatred between the opposing extremist factions in the Anni di Piombo (Years of Lead), a sad period characterized by violence and massacres perpetuated by extremists of the right and left.
thankyou!
Thank you for the explanation.
Thank you, I was looking for this comment.
You are welcome.
Free speech is more important than feelings.
If it were not for feelings, I'd imagine we wouldn't have much need for speech. So this isn't really a statement about speech but one about whose feelings or sentiments are legitamized and whose others are disregarded. Of course, there are some sentiments that acknowledge the human condition, its reason, and its variation, and then there are sentiments that reverberate a desire for power and oppression over others because of a distorted perception of self and their own vulnerability.
Aye and it was the Roman salute before the Nazi's stole it.
@@conscientiousobjector5988 A sentiment, such as a declaration of war against Germany (& her people)? That type of sentiment?
Ah yes, muh free speech. A comment on a video about n@zis doing the roman salute. I wonder therefore why oh why only the far right supports "free speech". No your sh!tty opinions should not be tolerated.
Free speach is mostly based on feelings
as long as the media and politicians refuse to acknowledge the reasons, which they are very open about, then their power grows, when the politicians and media do not listen, the anger just grows, I hope you don't wait too long to change course.
Democracy is where we ban all political opposition LOL
The reason why people are following Nationalism and National Socialism is because people are waking up to who controls the world.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far-left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
Any source for that?
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It was actually the Roman Salute first, so Italians have every right to use it.
Cope
Yeah, a fascist salute. That's the problem: fascism.
it's actually a Roman salute which was then used again by fascists in the 20th century. They have no idea. This is not a Nazi salute but a fascist salute! The fools don't know the difference between Nazism and Fascism! Fascism arose parallel to Nazism but wasn't the same! Whereby both ideologies are similar in some points because both ideologies are ultra-nationalist, organized according to the leader principle, racist, anti-democratic and anti-communist. But the racist and anti-Semitic aspect of Nazism was much more extreme. There is a great difference between Fascism and Nazism that is not insignificant. There is a big difference between Nazism and European fascism. That was a German special way! With Nazism, they have developed an ideology that completely contradicts the Enlightenment and made it their state doctrine. A complete break of civilization! Such degree of barbarism has never happened in human history! That was unique in human history. The main difference between European fascism and German Nazism is that the Nazism had an unprecedented and unique drastic nature and ruthlessness. So in summary a far greater degree of radicalism. The circumstance can also be used to derive the far greater degree of brutality, to deduce the higher degree of barbarism, to deduce the higher degree of dehumanization of the victims, which resulted in industrial mass murder, the higher degree of penetration of society with ideology, deduce the higher degree of willingness to sacrifice of the population, the higher degree of readiness to touche force and violence. The consequences of fascism are also not comparable with the consequences of Nazism, which is known to include various genocides with millions of murdered children of various nationalities.
In any case, Nazism arose independently of Fascism. This thinking from which this Nazism ideology arose had already arisen in the 19th century in the Bismarck state. Actually, even the aggressive, very militarized Prussian state in the 19th century before the founding of the German unified state in 1871 was a forerunner of the Nazi state, because the beginning of Nazism was already in this state. The beginnings are already evident in the 19th century. The origin of the Nazi ideology was actually already Prussia which was continued in the German Kaiserreich! The term used by the Nazis for "living space in the east" ( "Lebensraum im Osten" ) which was an important aspect of Nazi ideology was also developed in the 19th century especially in Prussia. This idea was then spread from Prussia to all the German small states. With reference to the medieval conquest of German-speaking settlers in the Baltic States, the idea of German colonization of Eastern Europe became increasingly popular. The idea was widespread in German society from the German natural right to rule and colonize the Slavic and Baltic areas east of Germany. In this context, the Germanization of Poland was propagated as the highest goal of Prussian politics. The idea of solving the social problems and the supposed overpopulation of Germany by gaining new settlement areas in Eastern Europe was expressed with the catchphrase “nation without space”. The German war aims in World War I were also shaped by the idea of conquering large areas in the east. The Treaty of Brest-Litovsk clearly testifies to this urge to expand to the east, in which the Bolsheviks who ruled Russia were forced to cede vast territories to Germany.
The Alldeutsche Verband (Pan-German Association), which was founded in 1891, also aimed at a military expansion of the German "living space" and policy of subjugation. Its program was expansionist, pan-Germanic, militaristic, nationalistic and determined by racist and anti-Semitic ways of thinking. The Alldeutsche Verband was organized regionally in local groups that also existed abroad. The Alldeutsche Verband was permeated by the teachings of so-called social Darwinism and by the struggle for existence, by the law of the strongest and the conviction that the German people needed more living space in order to survive. Well, is that known? Yes, that sounds a lot like the NAZI party. By the way, the Nazi party also had foreign organizations! The Alldeutsche Verband and other organizations of this kind were in fact the forerunners of the Nazi Party NSDAP! There are other various examples of organizations, clubs and other organizations that prepared Nazism as well as ideological precursors of Nazism in this state as early as the 19th century, which I cannot list them all.
So in summary one can say that Nazism did not arise from fascism, but the forerunners in the German state of the 19th century were from which Nazism then emerged. Furthermore, there was a big difference between Nazism and Fascism.
Why do you think that the nazis and other fascists took that salute from the ancient Romans? Those guys were the OG fascists. Different times, of course. But let's not pretend that the salute isn't a clear symbol of fascism.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
History will always repeat itself
indeed go and research the Weimar Republic and why people rose up and supported Hitler!
Israel is repeating Nazi to the Palestinians now. Israel has no shame.
this comment needs to stay at the top
It's nothing serious, it was a houndred of them commemorating three guys shot dead back in 1978 killed with firearms by Far Left terrorists. This commemaration occurs every year since that date...
I'd be worried of the nazi in Ukrain and what Israel is doing in Gaza
Wrong, people are just not that bright. Nobody is going to repeat this shit. Sorry, except Israel.
All are entitled to think, pray and voice their opinion on anything as long as they do not promote and take part in violence in order to silence others, all must be heard even if you do not agree! Nver shy away from an opportunity to converse with people who disagree with you, you will be better for it!
Austrian painter would be proud 🙋♂️
Mind Begs the Question:
- Nazi Media provided platform
- For Hate Speech against Jews
- If a Media provide platform
- For Hate Speech against Muslims
- Not akin to Nazi Media?
Why, he was nazi, these are fascists. Two different ideas.
@@uroskostic8570 Fascist has lost its meaning. People use it nowadays because it's convenient just like"nazi" and "racist".
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
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It's the Roman Imperial salute from 2300 years ago, adopted by the Italian, Spanish, and German fascists in the 20th century.
did the Romans yelled Heil Hitler back then?
Democracy is where we ban all political opposition LOL
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
I mean the definition of what deserves to be banned and what isn't is ultimately up to whoever is in charge, which means that; there is no universal consensus on what should and should not be banned. That is why things like Fascism are not banned, because it opens up banning of opponents off of claims of them being Fascist or like them. When you can ban fascists, everyone is suddenly a fascist.
The west is already fascist, for fascism is corporatism and the west's corporate NGOs are inseparable from their governments.
Anecdote: When Julian Assange once called the U.S State Department from the Ecuadorian embassy where he was held up, and left a message for a return call from Hillary Clinton, he instead got a call back from the girlfriend of the CEO of Google. Fact.
100% right
there's definitely universal consensus. the problem is that only well off peoples voices are considered deserving of consideration. only 1% of the entire human species is not living in squalor and poverty right now. im pretty sure 99% of us agree that rich people either shouldnt exist or shouldnt have any political power. they abuse it 110% of the timne
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In Italy the constitution litterally forbids to contitute a fascist party, so it would be perfectly legal. Fascism is a very precise thing in Italy, it is nothing arbitrary
The way she said Benito Mussolini!!🤣🤣🤣
I want everyone to notice they are saluting with their left hand, not the right... This is symbolic of evil. The Roman salute was done with the right hand, honoring divinity. The left hand salute honors Satan. This is the "Black Lodge" at work. Go and learn.
OK - from now on I will salute with my right hand only... Thank´s for your advise!@@servanttofriend8481
@servanttofriend8481 Have you taken your meds today? Neither left or right has to do with honouring anything, its simply a military salute from the Roman times, the Brazilian army uses it as well
THEY HAD ENOUGH OF IMMIGRATION ALL OVER EUROPE THESE PROTESTS ALSO MAKING PEOPLE ANGRY
Not sure what sort of saddo would find this so funny??
Europe hasn't changed one bit.
Inshallah
sadly is not true
This is what happens when you bring in tons of illegal immigrants
You are reason for this @@faizansalar
@faizansalar it's like saying jews should be blamed for the holocaust
THAT IS THE ROMAN SALUTE. It predates Germany and Austria by thousands of years. Cultural appropriation by a Bohemian corporal does not change that.
Yeah, these people run a tv and don't even know basic stuff. And they also publish it on the title so that millions know how ignorant they are.
Thousands of years? 😂 Tempel education
It's the Roman salute and was used long before the natsees. Curiously a form of this salute was often used in the Olympic games but fell out of use after ww2 for obvious reasons.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far-left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
Same as the swatzica .Which is an ancient Indian symbol. Not sure if it was Hindu or Muslim,but guessing the former.
@@coconuciferanuts339 Yes, totally agree, the swastika is a hindu good luck symbol.
But either way it directly symbolises Hitler and the nzis so just don't right? Unless your racist?
Like we can tell what a racist is were not stupid
"Salute sounds like loyal, fully dedicated and being ready to do anything"
Sounds like I have seen these before 🤭
They got it from the Roman Empire
@@sunnymitra6372 sure
@@Österreich_ist_frei
Did that foreign lady in the video convince you of that?
like russians on RUSSIAN MARSH in Moscow 2013, they are not real italians those are putins migrants
N stands for Nato Netenyahoo ,and something else.....
Love from Greece to Italy.
This salute was also used in America, look up "Bellamy Salute". Its all based on the Roman salute.
yeah .. that's exactly the reason they used it..
This Salute In Italy Is a historic ROMAN salute Loooong before ww2. It is ancient Italian culture.
Thats not the context this was used. Unfortunately the Roman salute is now alternatively called the Fascist salute.
And the swastika is an ancient symbol for dozens of cultures across Eurasia and North America. But we know why most people (aside from Buddhists, Hindus and Jains) use it today. Let's not kid ourselves
Italians fight back, stay strong, stay Italian.
fighting back what? wtf
I remember what Stalin said about Italian soldiers. When asked about two more Italian armies being deployed, he smiled and said, let them send more. LOL! Fight Back huh, this is how u NAZIs do.
@@uffmenkhewenmomazohxdddddddddd muslims jews and woke fascists
illegal immigration@@uffmenkhewenmomazohxdddddddddd
@@uffmenkhewenmomazohxdddddddddd Against fascism.
Palky, what Naz1 salut ? This is Italy. It's the Roman salut. Roman Legions saluted this way 2 thousand years before the Naz1's.
MORE THAN 2 000 YEARS!
"Why can't the Italians meekly accept becoming an ethnic minority in their native country, without upseting our feelies?"
Palestinians deserve to feel the same way right?
dude, you dont have a genetic family that makes each country of people a different type of human being. if you want to expand your culture, perhaps dont make it revolve around elitism and exclusivity. otherwise, all you can do is shrink as the species grows. your economic system only wants to consolidate. so your culture follows suite.
Keep living in a world of racist fantasies
@@saturationstation1446Best bet we have of erasing italian culture from history is refusing immigration and continue to enjoy the demographic winter of our oh so pure blood country (what a joke, we're so mixed our genome is more uneven than that of separate nations, and that's just because history).
Replacement conspiracy theorists are total nutjobs. Total foreign population here is 8% and we hear shit brains complaining that 92% of the population is a fucking minority
Government should not have any say in what people think or say at all.
Really, do you know that the Nazi killed 6 million Jews same as the holocaust so do you agree with that happening again?
What
GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SAY IN THE WAY PEOPLE THINK OR WHAT WHAT THEY SAY.
GOVERNMENT SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY SAY IN THE WAY PEOPLE THINK OR WHAT WHAT THEY SAY.
@@AppaGo420-rz5bz what
In the 1990s all my school life we all did this salute every morning 😅pledge time
😂😂😂 IND is my country all Indian are my brother and sister 😂😂
the hand was forward
😂😂
We still do
@@heriv4671😂😂😂😂😂 correct 👍
Well USA and NATO have supported this in Ukraine making it acceptable…..Azoz Battalion and atrocities before war on Russian-Ukrainians in Donbas region!
Just indigenous people tired of being intruded upon by outsiders.
What you didn't think what you did too others wouldn't be done to you .....should of stayed in your own countries shouldn't you....looool
Italians getting ready to betray Germany for the third time 😂
No 🙄🤦♂️
3:07 perfect Palki ma'am an arm band,whih heaken kruz (hooked cross) and not our, auspicious SWASTIK.Thanks for not calling it Swastik.
Exactly
BTW, technically, Also in Italy this salute is banned since 1952 (law number645 of 20 June1952 ("law Scelba"),
I'm sure it was banned by the small hat tribe who goes around lying about what really happened during WWII. I guess when you own 95% of the media, it's easy to get the world to believe a bunch of lies.
Thanks for the info.
As an Indian, I admit that we Indians have been slaves to the British for more than 300 years, but now we are the sons of the British Empire, and I am proud of it.
🙌
@@bruch-TB Sons? What do you mean?
If you can't debate an idea, you ban it, which makes it grow. Have open dialog and discourse to prevent it, not ban it.
you have to fight fascism, not debate it
Obviously, they cannot do that. Because then people would quickly realize what Fascism really is (it's not the Communist behavior that was projected onto it, to confuse people), which would be The End for neo-, woke-, cultural Marxism, for ever. Marxism cannot survive on the free market of ideologies, hence the censorship we see on leftist platforms like RUclips.
Thank You for your intelligent comment, Alextrebek...You cannot "Ban" the human mind. They've been trying to "outlaw" true Fascism for 80 years, and yet in continues to grow!
@@iwannabeyourdog4195 No you have to embrace it, let's face it democracy has failed European peoples it's time to get stricter and harsher.
That worked out real well in Europe in the early 1930s. There is only one way to defeat fascism.
A certain Austrian born, art school rejected man, smirking from the heaven......
As well he should be.... His art is better than any Jackson Pollock, or Kooning I ever seen.
Heaven ??? I think your confused more like Hell.
We took pledge in school in similar fashion 😂
Thought it's a British etiquette
there is a difference in the stands
That’s because UK support NAZI in Ukraine.
Our hands were meant to be straight,here it mean to be raised upwards.But most of our hands in the assembly were either up like the Nazi salute or down .
What pledge? I grew up in Britain and never did any pledge.
Look up the Bellamy salute it was even used in American school's 😊
Palki needs to focus more on her own country tbh where the symbol of the swastika is quite common! It also has a vigorous apartheid system towards the Dalits that needs to be addressed. Just saying.
They have Hindu supremcist same problem in India as all countries become more nationalistic and more wanting refugees out and immigration to stop as they are being taxed to death and price hike on all sides but is it due to immigration...nope..but it sure focuses all the faults of governments on to the most vulnerable and minority groups and easy target ..but like you say yes history does repeat it self .the greedy of got greedier and they think they can govern us better then our governments..I'm starting to wonder my self..but they are just as extremist in their ideologies as well. Who can we trust to look after our welfare and our health systems if they have been cut back and monies sent to war in countries where more refugees will come over to flee..war is definitely a racket and never changes.
People all over the world just want their country back !!
That is correct! All except Jews! They got Israel now!
I think its the repercussions or the after effects of mass isl..c migration into the europe. It might be seen frequently in the streets in coming years. As democracy isn’t able to control the migration crisis and people are more terrified. Europe need to act on both sides simultaneously.
This is idiotic propaganda because this same group has been meeting and performing this ritual since the 1970's. Europe has gone all in on the Banderites in Ukraine so this mincing seems rather juvenile.
they ignore the rise of rightist in Ukraine, it's spilling over.
Happens when elected representatives work for global interests instead of their own citizens.
ikr first posts comment section always has to turn islamophobic@@1247.cccccc
Yea yea DA mooslumz, I swear westerners blame everyone but themselves for their incompetence.
Own land..people s culture is threatened by migrants ..natives shd take decision to safeguard ladies ..land.main enemy is uncontrolled democracy..too much broadmind especially ven enemy is bad. Pray for eu and d world.
Your country’s diaspora is a huge part of the illegal immigrant problem.
@@Mudshovel-xx6semy people go there legally
@@diadon5674 I bet you not all of them. I don’t even know where you’re from but I bet we can find some illegal immigrants somewhere from your country.
@@Mudshovel-xx6se your comment made assumptions that all indians come there illegally. But most that go to west go there legally .they pay heavy money and wait and do legal procedures that takes years. Even student who go for education pay alot of money .
Our poor labour class generally goes to middle east legally. Not to west .most white collar people like tech guys ,doctors ,nurses ,scientists go to west as the infrastructure is better for that specific field. I am not talking in absolutes some might be there illegally and govt should send them back .
I am not a hypocrate. I don't like illegal people infiltrating my country and I don't want illegals for any country be it middle east or west. Respect law of land and behave and contribute to the country you are legally .period.
*Hail Meloni!!* 🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹
but what if NAZI ideology is dee only one who can save Europe from multiculturalisation? many indigenous European people do not like Islam taking over their land. what other options do they have to make this right?
what about jew? the whole nazism started all over jews taking over Germany
If Nazi ideology can stop Islam from islamizing Europe and other countries, there is no harm in it. Minorities are non-existent in Islamic countries. Why should Muslims spread and occupy other countries? Put Nazi in context as the clown of a Sec Gen of UN said for Hamas massacres which he did not condemn.
Now that's a question most don't want to answer
Roman Salute 🍷
You can't regulate or ban ideas. History's biggest hits are coming back around, it's like humanity is purging its worst ideas.
Maybe ask the question why they are doing it?
Purging or regurgitating?
Oh! And it's not all of humanity. Just the usual suspects.
Censorship of people leads to a rise of right wing people. Replacing people or races leads to the same. People need to understand this. Do not censor, bring in rational arguments and speak the truth
@@magnacarta9364Economic hardship for some, refugee crisis for some. Total ignorance for all!
They are blaming the wrong people for their economic hardship.
The refugees are the victims of the same powers that be, the greedy vampires sucking the lifeblood out regular folk. The victims of the world's warmongers who sow division as a distraction from their gathering and hoarding of the world's resources.
The filty rich are getting richer and the rest of us are getting poorer. Our children can no longer expect to do better than their parents. They are expected to do worse.
People are living paycheck to paycheck, those who can even get a paycheck. Homelessness is on the rise everywhere etc, etc. etc.
While the Jeff Bezoses of the world flying high, into space while thanking his staff for making it possible as they pee into bottles to save time for making quotas.
Ignorant folk know that the system is not working and they've been manipulated into thinking this is going to fix it.
Fascism was a hit? Lmao 😅 Is that why Mussolini ended up displayed on a meat hook in a public square? Because fascism was a hit?
How interesting Italy is becoming.
Makes me happy to say I am half Italian.
It's something that goes on every year from 1978. What's truly interesting is why people are speaking about it now, and why are they so shocked. I mean, it appened even during left governments.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
Major Gaurav Arya of @the Chanakya Dialogue had warned that EU can move towards fascism very fast.
Haan
Indian can move towards fascism faster that EU can 🤡
Lol these people think that asshole is worth listening to 😂😂😂😂. RIP india
@@kimmogensen4888 Just a quick history 1-2-1, both of the bloodiest world wars were fought between European Countries, Slavery was started and legalised in Europe, Europe fought Opium wars, Maximum atrocities on working class were executed by elite European on their own people during Industrial Revolution…
@@kimmogensen4888that’s not a good thing
Only by suppressing someone's voice are you sure that you make it stronger.
Europe has a serious problem
Karma
@@pearls1626 What is Karma in Europe,The people who sped up the world and the people who advanced it,Sure the governments are bad but aren’t all ? Also the ones who have had enough are the Europeans the real ones,Not the invasion terrible cultures.
@pearls1626 - The problem is NOT "karma". The problem is a controlled invasion of European countries...
And YOU'RE just a spiteful simian.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
The issue isnt about banning. The issue is that what the west is doing to adress is problems isnt working.
That only leaves people with two choices, to look backwards or to look forward. You can see what they picked.
is nothing wrong
the people just want living in peace with the people that always lived in them country .. not strangers and intruders
So why European go all around the world then...?? Stealing and taking what's not there's if all they wanted to be left alone...you are confirming what everyone already knew ....Africans ..native Americans ...aborigines..every where you step foot you killed and stole ...and now "your" here saying they want to be left alone .....p.s Jesus is coming back and no he's not white ..and neither is heaven...so ...thanks for confirming your fate
Sounds like your scared, too bad European nationalism is rising faster than ever@@millicentgranger6035
Like how Israel invaded the Palestinians right?
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
I honestly don’t care got more time to focus on this country to give a shite. Italy aren’t attacking anyone and it’s most likely about immigration so let them do whatever and focus more on ur own country 😎😎
Really have a country, you barbarian ?
Reminding me of school taking pledge.
the pledge of allegiance is Way different than the Nazi Salute!
Theres Nothing wrong with Loving your country BUT when you start hating other countries or people that's when you are an idiot
Yes man. In Indian school students pledge by lifting their arm exactly like a Nazi salute 😁
I think there is some connection with this salute to ancient civilisations like India
And we also have swastika in our religion since ancient times
@@chinazieswillstartww3253 Something to do with the Aryan people?
Freedom of expression
A country that really wants freendom must not give freedom to express of unfreedom or it will stop being a freedom country
@@matand8508 that makes no sense, freedom of expression isnt free if it restricts expression 🤣 try again leftist
@@matand8508shouldn't people have the right to choose to be in unfreedom ? If u take away that right, how do you call it freedom?
@@gtrdxz If a country wants freedom, and it gives freedom of expression to Hitler, and he using this freedom of expression to turn the country into Naz!sm, the country will stop be a freedom country… A COUNTRY THAT REALLY WANTS FREEDOM MUST NOT GIVE FREEDOM FOR EXPRESSION OF UNFREEDOM.
@@AshrafAli-is4wv no humen wants to be unfreedom, its basic need. Unfreedom means they cant to many things, while freedom make them do whatever they want (of-course with security limits)… freedom cant hurt anyone
Major Gaurav Jee needs a time with you Palki - he predicts this 4 months ago
He is too good at prediction... Long back he said Pakistan will be destroyed without a bullet.
@ChaLaChitra01 are bhai neo fascism ka bola hai unhone apni videos me
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
@@rokis23 un related topics do you even know who Major Gaurav A jee is??
There’s something that you probably should know the American salute was the same until World War 2 and it wasn’t originally from Germany. It was originally the Roman Empire salute.
The big question is should the Roman salute or even the swastika be defined by one instance in history, making them forever evil.
We are under the roman rule of law. The roman empire never died. Look around you on and in public buildings, bank notes, flags, etc. you will see the roman eagle.
Very true
Yes
The Roman empire is the secular representation of the dark side.
The Roman empire includes the Vatican the monarchy and the USA political axis
It is through the Roman empire that we will see the Globalist empire established with OWG and OWR
I think banning is helpful.
Nazis with the swastika are rife in Ukraine with NATO support .
It doesn't stop the mindset but it draws a line
Hakenkreuz or the crooked cross in English is not a Swastika. That is like calling a helicopter an aeroplane.
@alfredeinstein1742
And the difference is ?
Patriots who love their country & their people.
This is their support for Ukraine. We're going to pretend we didn't see this coming when they were doing it in Ukraine.
BRAVOOO
those are russians saluting, not real italians, immigrants
@@mirzamirzali5257russians dont do it
@@mirzamirzali5257 why would russian do that
Russia fought against nazis
these arent nazis. Italy didnt have nazism, but fascism. Nazism is leftist ideology, fascism is right ideology. @@yaheardme111
Right wing coming up in Europe
Just, "right".
This is not the Nazi salute, but the the ancient Rome salute.
The Italian Fascist salute predated the Nazi salute.
@@charlesrb3898 Saluting hurt noone. However, different kind of Islamists commit real crime and hurt people. Look the outcome, not the form.
@@aoibheannnibhroin9951right 👴🏻／
it's a roman salute, not a nazi salute
The Roman salute starts with the fist on the heart before raising it extended. The Nazi salute which is being done here skips the first step. They're also dressed in black, an homage to the Blackshirts that Mussolini employed to intimidate dissenters and political opponents. You really need to learn your history.
@@ashman88914:50 watch the whole video, my friend.
@@ashman8891the nazis called it the roman salute.
Your right It's a swastika not nazi symbol
History repeats itself
@@cuteface88 By murdering millions?
@@Nomnomnom165 Propaganda says what? Youre super diluted if you think your set of humans is the good guys.
@@allroadsanywhere449sounds like you are racist
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
The Roman salute is over 2 millennia old. It is a symbol of honour and it is part of our cultural heritage.
Banning anything seems undemocratic.
Fascism kills democracy, then people
Not everything, for example hate speech needs to be banned else it is not democracy. Democracy can only exist because of conversation and discussions, because of free speech. Hate speech doesnt want any of that.
@@wokeaf1337 Who decides what hate speech is? It's a fine line.
@@LOCATIONREDACTED The society. In a democracy typically, hate speech is defined by calls for violence.
@@wokeaf1337 It's too broad. There are already reasonable laws against incitement.
"Banning the Nazi salute opens the Pandora's box." The Pandora's box has been open for decades in France and, as a French, I can confirm politics is a joke here.
hey, but at least you guys don't speak German, right?
@@bushy9780 I'm not free to answer you.
This is an annual event to remember the murders of two youths by far - left extremists. (STRAGE DI ACCA LARENZIA) They're literally Romans... doing a Roman salute...... in Rome. It's happened every year for over 40 years.
Why wasn't it "chilling" the other 45 times but now, suddenly, it is?
@@rokis23 Thank you for these elements on the historical and political context. As you understood, my point was (1) on the legal issue (2) in France. Let me add the following. As experts put it, contrary to wearing uniforms and displaying paraphernalia, the salute per se is not an offense in the French books, BUT the courts condemn it nevertheless as an incitement to racial hatred. (And it is forbidden as such in stadiums.) Thus, where the law actually forbids, say, the display of Nazi flags, the guilty may have to pay a 1,500€ fine, but where the law says nothing but courts nevertheless filled in the gap, then one may incur 1 year in prison and a 45,000€ fine. The legislator said nothing on the salute but the salute is punished as racial hatred, whose penalties are substantially heavier than for Nazi uniforms and objects that are statutorily punished by a much smaller fine, even though the obvious display of objects, if the salute is racial hatred, is racial hatred by the same token. So much so for the consistency of the legislation. Finally, neither the law nor the courts limit the scope of the law to the Nazi party; their phrasing targets organizations condemned by the Nuremberg and other trials in 1945 AND other organizations condemned for crimes against humanity. Which means displaying the Israeli flag should be punished by French courts if the ICJ rules that Israel has committed or is committing genocide.
This was not a nazi rally, let alone it is not the nazi salute but the fascist one, the fascist one is not as stiff and the palm is slightly out while the nazi one is at a straight, stiff angle.
This rally is a fascist tribute that has been held every anniversary of the Acca Larentia killings where two MSI youth activists where gunned down and another wounded in 1978 and later on another killed by a police officer who fired at a crowd. This is the 46th one since the killings happened.
Franco Biganzetti 20, and Francesco Ciavatta 19, where youth wing members of the MSI, they passed out pamphlets for the movement, and where murdered by communisti who fired a sub machine gun at them in front of the MSI headquarters while passing out pamphlets.
In response to the killings the MSI held many riots and protests, during one of the protests a Carabinieri officer fired into the crowed and wounded several protestors and fatally killing Stefano Reccioni 18.
they never found the killer and the officer who fired at the crowd was never tried and simply let go, so every year since it happened they hold a rally in there honor to pay tribute to there fallen comrades who died fighting for the revolution.
They say there names followed by a fascist salute and chanting Presente to mean they are still present and remembered for the sacrifice of there lives for the movement.
They do the same thing for memorials and reunions for fallen RSI soldiers.
This has nothing to do with the rise of more nationalistic movements in Europe of fascism in post war Italia, it is fascists paying tribute to fallen comrades as they always do, the opposition is just making up excuses and anybody who attacks them for this are saying they do not have a right to mourn there comrades who where murdered violently at a young age for there beliefs.
They were defeated once ,they will be defeated again
By who?
By the ameritards?
with what cost?!
not by reasons, but by backstabbings and wars
now you have only favelas and pregnant men. you're done
America and Russia arent coming this time 🤣 buckle up buttercup
@@ShadowBlitz776Stalin!
Nothing like a Roman salute while in Rome.
I don’t get it. What’s the problem?
Context : this happens every year, regardless of the government.
I guess that's why Italy supports Ukraine.
Censorship’s not ever the answer. Educate the people and youth so that these fools cannot recruit .
The government is doing everything they can to encourage new membership.
These 'fools' will take back their country.
The rabid left have caused these problems they are not right wing they are just right
@@RC-br1ps There's nothing to take back, Italy still has an native Italian majority. So your comment doesn't make sense.
@@Desertfox18 They will take back their country from neo-liberals and financial elites who want to rob them of their future. Irrelevant whether or not Italians are the majority if they still don't control their country.
Europe is finally walking up
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Technically, it was the Roman salute first. Then the Italians. Then the Germans.
And today the Mexicans.
It doesn't matter who was the first that adopted that salute, its their motive and ideology behind it.
@@vaskarkeishamvaskar7937 what is their motivation?