Really good job. I like your clear and useful reviews.We've just adquired a MG4 Luxury and we've very excited waiting for it. I live in Canary Islands. Thank you very much sir.
After much research (days and weeks) I've gone for an EV. MG4 standard range, thanks to content from yourself and a few others. You have really educated me about the ease of EVs and put many fears ro rest . Thabks to content like this i understand that 99% of my journeys over a year will never see "range anxiety", or to be honest a need me to even hink about it charging and my life will not change one bit other than saving in excess of £100 per month in diesel. The other 1% of journeys are 2/3 times a year and involve the family ( myself, wife and two young children), and despite my best efforts we can never go more than 2hrs in the car without the need for someone to need the toilet etc, and these stops are always 20 mins by the time everyone has faffed. So hooking the car up to get a charge while we are refreshing is sensible, no hardship at all and requires no more thought than planning which services to use rather than diving into one when we all feel like it.
Thank you so much for both this video and all your tips and tricks. I picked up my trophy LR last Thursday and your information has been priceless. Marc.
I have just discovered your channel as a result of this video appearing in my feed. I have just taken delivery of a MG4 Trophy Long Range 2 days ago having had a KIA Soul I'm really pleased to read your comment about the range comparison as i had worried that the MG would not be as efficient as the Soul where i averaged over 300 miles in the summer and 280 at least in the cooler months generally. 👍🏽 In the end I went with MG over the Kona (with the Soul no more) because of its battery charging speed when going on longer journeys.
I did Cardiff - Redruth / Redruth - Cardiff in my standard Model 3 with no problems. In fact because the family wanted to stop at Exeter services both ways, I decided to do a bit of a top-up. The car was ready well before they were ready to carry on. Sadly the return journey took 8 hrs as the bridge was closed causing huge tailbacks on the M5. Grrrr.
I did much the same trip in reverse last week with my MG4 (Cardiff to Beaulieu and back) - although I stopped overnight near Basingstoke to see family. My distance travelled was longer as a result of course.... I got about 3.9 miles per Kwh with more motorway, so did have to charge. It helps that my relatives also have a home charger, so I did top up for a few hours there. Well done on your miles per Kwh!
If anything, I have found that most guess-o-meters are more pessimistic when the battery is full. On my 2012 Leaf (yes, I really was an EV pioneer, there were less than 1000 EVs on the roads when I started with them!) the first of the 12 bars of range equated to around 3 miles and the last around 5 miles. I guess they are trying to influence you psychologically to charge sooner rather than later.
4.6 miles per kWh is excellent, even in those mild conditions. I have a Genesis Electrified G80 which is a large executive saloon with an 87.7 KWh battery and I would struggle to see much over 4 miles per kWh.
The more I see of this car, the better it seems to my use case. I live in tiny Barbados just 166 square miles so this can easily take me across the whole island 2-3 times. With solar charging it just seems to be really smart purchase. Ps. I agree cross country driving is way more fun than freeway.
Thanks for the video- good info for EV driving on long journeys. I believe your average speed for the journey was about 40mph which is not fast but in fairness you seemed to keep up with traffic. Keeping a lower average speed is probably the most important parameter in maximising efficiency achieved. For info on our motorways 120kph I keep my speed at about 103kph to avoid an unnecessary drain on my EV battery- Cupra Born 😊
100% right. My average on the whole run was 37mph. That included quite a few stationary minutes, which does bring the average down. Most of the time I couldn't legally go any faster or was held up by traffic.
Just a heads up Burl, it’s apparently very easy to add a USB port in the dome light area to power dashcams, would recommend if the cable down causes annoyance
A lot of people are moving over to a better route planner tethered to OBD dongle so that their stop over calculations are linked to the point in time state of their charge. Does zip map works similarly.
Now MG just needs to sell the Trophy without that silly pointless spoiler. It does nothing for the car and only increases drag. The fact you can't order the SE Long Range with the Trophy equipment outside that is a silly choice on their point.
Agreed. Would be great to have the Trophy equipment with the LFP battery. Spoiler looks like a teenage wet dream but most people just want a simple classic design.
Interesting as I remember a commentator saying a while ago the people use minor roads to save distance . Not only clogging small roads up but negating the reason for bypasses and faster routes. MG4 looks a decent car though
Seems like the MG4 EV is seriously good! I don't need a car as I don't travel too much, so usually just use coach or train. But if I needed a car, Id definitely consider this
My accumulated average is sitting at 3.6 m/kwh after just over 1k miles. Not amazing, but i don't drive very carefully as i don't see the point of driving an EV if you're not going to use the superior acceleration to your advantage. Plus it's just more fun. I only worry about having range when i do those longer trips. Manchester to London Heathrow and back is going to be a challenge in December. Going off the WLTP I should be able to make it just barely without charging, but with the temperature that doesn't seem likely so there are a few rapid charging stations I've bookmarked along the last bits of the M40.
In colder weather, driving slowly uses more energy for heating, so the balance between going faster and rapid charging more often vs slow and higher range is even tighter. I'd be expecting to charge on your Heathrow run in the winter! Aim to be no lower than 10%, at least that gives you 20 miles worth of options if your preferred charge point is out of order.
It's Cathays... you're unlikely to hit 20mph unless it's the middle of the night. Average speed in Cardiff city centre is around 8-13mph from before the 20mph limit, which tallies better with your 7 min for 1 mile estimate too.
The battery is generally considered as 62KWh useable. I have a 4KWP solar setup on the house and 7KWP on the garage, with 20KWh battery storage on each.
This is really interesting. How did you manage to get such a high m/kWh figure? Other videos I've watched seem to only get 3-3.5 m/kWh? Was it because you avoided the motorway?
More like slow traffic on the A roads, 50mph speed limits all along the M4 through Newport and Cardiff areas, tyre pressures adjusted up to max permitted, and careful use of vehicles in front for aero efficiency!
Great vid mate. Thinking of getting the Trophy version of this in March. I'm a newbie to EVs. How much is it to charge a car from home overnight vs going to fill up a petrol car?
I recently fixed for a year with Eon Next Drive tariff, which gives you 7 hours cheap rate electricity from approx midnight to 7am for the entire house including the car charger. You need a smart meter to get the best rates. I pay 9.5p per KWh, which is around 2.5p per mile. £4.75 gives me around 200 miles. A gallon of petrol is currently £7.30....
@@garywise1378 I have had electric cars since the first Leaf in 2012. Back then, with a limited range of 80 miles max and hardly any chargers available, eco mode could make the difference between getting home and being stranded. The compromises of eco mode are too great. Reduced heating and ventilation, reduced performance. The Zoes I had wouldn't do more than 60 in eco mode and took ages to get there. I like the car to behave the way I expect it to when I switch on the heater or put my foot down, eco mode alters that.
@@garywise1378 you have a minimum of 200 miles in winter conditions, so my opinion is keep it in standard mode and start looking for a charger when you have 50 miles range left. Always have a second choice location available in case of faulty chargers.
Hi, if it was 7mins at 20mph, how long would it have taken at 30mph? With traffic would it have made any appreciable difference to the experience of the drive? Isn't it just something we'll get used to? I just hope that it's only 20mph where it needs to be for genuine pedestrian safety.
Blanket 20 mph limit everywhere with few exceptions. Traffic couldn't get off the 50mph dual carriageway fast enough so was backing up on the new 20mph limited main roads into town
Its pretty good. People mistakenly believe it's a "blanket limit everywhere" just like burl here but it isn't. It's the default for restricted urban roads, but councils are allowed to apply 30mph limits where they feel it appropriate. It basically forces road planners to think more about their infra, rather than leaving it to defaults. Where it falls down of course is when councils just did naff all before the deadline and things like the roads showcased in flintshire in the middle of nowhere being 20mph, but thankfully they're actually revisiting those issues now. Overall its bedded in well, folk do tailgate and folk do speed, but they're speeding at 25-28 rather than 35-38 and tailgating at speeds where City AEB (a safety system you'll find on every new car) becomes extremely effective at avoiding accidents. I've found it much easier to exit junctions on busy roads as cars are slower generally, leaving you much more time to join the road. That is... all outside of rush hour. At rush hour, well even on 60mph A roads I'm averaging my usual 16mph anyway. Could see if I was a taxi or delivery driver why it might "frustrate" me as 20 is a smaller number than 30, but pragmatically its made almost zero difference in my driving times. One tip if you're not used to it - speed limiters really help with dialing in the muscle memory for 20 :)
@@BurlSolomonsodd thought process that 20mph = back up on a 50mph road but 30mph = no back up. 30 is still slower than 50. Unless the road is completely full of nose to tail traffic travelling at exactly the speed limit I think this is a case of bad attribution. More likely a case of traffic light timing, or just congestion, rather than the new speed limit.
Nice to see how easily it did that journey without needing to charge, cracking average miles / kWh. Quick question if you don't mind , is that Google navigation native to the car or via Android auto / apple carplay? Looking forward to getting my trophy next month👍
The Trophy has its own built in Nav, but I always use Android Auto on the infotainment screen. Incidentally, the nav directions can't be displayed on the driving instrument screen
I'd recommend a Motorola MA1. Enables easy wireless AA or CarPlay. So you can keep your phone in your pocket or elsewhere and not have to connect it each time. The MG4 only has wired AA & CarPlay. Enjoy your new car.
@Neil2022 on the old feed in tariff you get paid a fixed fee for every unit you generate, plus another fixed fee for half of all you generate as an estimated export fee whether you use it or not@@Neil2022
@@BurlSolomonsI averaged 3.57 in 2023 over 10k miles with my 77kWh RWD Ioniq 5. My average speed was 42. I mostly drive in Switzerland and France, and I always use motorways if possible. I can safely do 200 miles going 82mph in Switzerland and 90mph in France in any weather that allows this speed. Then I can recharge 60 miles in 5 minutes and 120 miles in 10 minutes. So we're talking about three and a half hours of constantly driving 90, with a ten minute break. In reality it's almost always around four hours of hammering on the motorway, because of speed limits, construction, péage etc. Driving on the motorway has several advantages: not adding to through traffic in towns and villages on the route, traffic safety, less tiring to name a few. And I figure since I'm on the motorway allready, I may as well hammer it. However, things are different if the car charges slow or its range is poor.
@theboffin1 You're not driving efficiently. Driving efficiently isn't driving slow. It's a lot about anticipating traffic, driving at a constant speed, no braking, no accelerating. Use the speed limiter at all times. Driving at 30 constantly improves efficiency by 0.1m/kWh, compared to oscilating between 29 and 31. Do not use ACC, unless you are on the motorway. Use the lowest regen level your car has, or auto-regen, if your car has that feature.
Real world driving would have been on the motorway though and going fastest route like normal people do? Most people won't go cross country roads, risk meeting tractors and being delayed even further etc and then you've got the potholes, loose chirpings damaging your car , bushes sticking out on the road and the wear and tear on the car from taking those roads regularly
The round trip journey is 70 miles further by motorway /dual carriageway. It takes 10 minutes longer each way going cross-country. I would therefore have been required to stop for a charge at some point on the return leg. This would undoubtedly have taken more than 20 minutes, and cost an arm and a leg at a public rapid charger. So actually the lower speed route takes less time. I also find little so boring as motorway driving, and if there is a serious accident on a motorway or dual carriageway you are totally stuck until it is cleared by the emergency services, which can take many hours. On a single lane road, you can always just turn around and find another route. Plenty of potholes / deep scoring and grooves on the M3 / M27, I have to constantly keep back to spot them and then weave around them to avoid when on my motorbike.
don't drive like a miser just because you've got an EV. It's up to the company to build an efficient car, then we drive it however we feel like and deal with the consequences. It'll be a great shame if we become misers
It depends on whether time is more important to you than money. I could have saved 8 minutes each way going the A34 and M4 route, driving much faster and averaging 55mph, but I would have travelled 60 miles further and used the entire battery and then some. That would have meant a minimum 20 minute charging stop, so the journey would have taken longer. It's not about being a miser, it's about being efficient. As I said, I don't see how I could have done the journey any faster in any other car.
I have started driving slower since I got an EV. When you factor in traffic and even without, going say 80 mph over say 70 mph does not make a whole bunch of difference in the total time my journey, the range also improves. I do draw the line at turning off AC and heating though, I still want to travel in comfort.
I have started driving slower since I got an EV. When you factor in traffic and even without, going say 80 mph over say 70 mph does not make a whole bunch of difference in the total time my journey, the range also improves. I do draw the line at turning off AC and heating though, I still want to travel in comfort.
Nice video, however as I drive a diesel car I would have taken the dual carriageway and M4 if there were no problems showing as I much prefer driving on dual carriageways and motorways as I feel they are much safer to drive on so I think having to drive longer and on crappy single carriageway road is a pretty sad indictment of having an electric car and having to hunt out charging sites whereas fuel stations are just about around every corner.
Difference is I suppose is in the cost. As he hadn't needed to use public charging lets assume he charged his car at home on the cheapest possible charge platform (7.5p per kWh). 233 miles at 4.6m/kWh is 50.65kw/h of energy used. It will have cost him just £3.79 to make that journey. If you used the motorway, you'd cover 278 miles. In a diesel car doing a very conservative 60mpg, you would need 4.63 gallons of diesel to make the journey. At a cost of £1.60 per L (£7.26 per gallon) you'd be looking at a cost of £33.61 for the same journey. Nearly 10x more expensive...
Really good job. I like your clear and useful reviews.We've just adquired a MG4 Luxury and we've very excited waiting for it. I live in Canary Islands. Thank you very much sir.
After much research (days and weeks) I've gone for an EV. MG4 standard range, thanks to content from yourself and a few others.
You have really educated me about the ease of EVs and put many fears ro rest . Thabks to content like this i understand that 99% of my journeys over a year will never see "range anxiety", or to be honest a need me to even hink about it charging and my life will not change one bit other than saving in excess of £100 per month in diesel.
The other 1% of journeys are 2/3 times a year and involve the family ( myself, wife and two young children), and despite my best efforts we can never go more than 2hrs in the car without the need for someone to need the toilet etc, and these stops are always 20 mins by the time everyone has faffed.
So hooking the car up to get a charge while we are refreshing is sensible, no hardship at all and requires no more thought than planning which services to use rather than diving into one when we all feel like it.
Thank you so much for both this video and all your tips and tricks. I picked up my trophy LR last Thursday and your information has been priceless. Marc.
I have just discovered your channel as a result of this video appearing in my feed. I have just taken delivery of a MG4 Trophy Long Range 2 days ago having had a KIA Soul I'm really pleased to read your comment about the range comparison as i had worried that the MG would not be as efficient as the Soul where i averaged over 300 miles in the summer and 280 at least in the cooler months generally. 👍🏽 In the end I went with MG over the Kona (with the Soul no more) because of its battery charging speed when going on longer journeys.
I really don't find long journeys an issue in the MG, the charging speed is so fast!
Just what I want to hear, thanks! 😊
I did Cardiff - Redruth / Redruth - Cardiff in my standard Model 3 with no problems. In fact because the family wanted to stop at Exeter services both ways, I decided to do a bit of a top-up. The car was ready well before they were ready to carry on. Sadly the return journey took 8 hrs as the bridge was closed causing huge tailbacks on the M5. Grrrr.
I did much the same trip in reverse last week with my MG4 (Cardiff to Beaulieu and back) - although I stopped overnight near Basingstoke to see family. My distance travelled was longer as a result of course.... I got about 3.9 miles per Kwh with more motorway, so did have to charge. It helps that my relatives also have a home charger, so I did top up for a few hours there. Well done on your miles per Kwh!
Thanks for the video, very informative. I expected to see less range for the lower 50% of the battery, but that did not seem to be the case.
If anything, I have found that most guess-o-meters are more pessimistic when the battery is full. On my 2012 Leaf (yes, I really was an EV pioneer, there were less than 1000 EVs on the roads when I started with them!) the first of the 12 bars of range equated to around 3 miles and the last around 5 miles. I guess they are trying to influence you psychologically to charge sooner rather than later.
4.6 miles per kWh is excellent, even in those mild conditions. I have a Genesis Electrified G80 which is a large executive saloon with an 87.7 KWh battery and I would struggle to see much over 4 miles per kWh.
The more I see of this car, the better it seems to my use case. I live in tiny Barbados just 166 square miles so this can easily take me across the whole island 2-3 times. With solar charging it just seems to be really smart purchase.
Ps. I agree cross country driving is way more fun than freeway.
That's good to hear. Are they available in Barbados yet?
In the user manual MG recommends that once every 3 to 6 months you perform a charge from less than 10% to 100%.
The car is supposed to remind you to perform a full charge to 100% with an information message when it needs a battery balance.
Thanks for the video- good info for EV driving on long journeys. I believe your average speed for the journey was about 40mph which is not fast but in fairness you seemed to keep up with traffic. Keeping a lower average speed is probably the most important parameter in maximising efficiency achieved. For info on our motorways 120kph I keep my speed at about 103kph to avoid an unnecessary drain on my EV battery- Cupra Born 😊
100% right. My average on the whole run was 37mph. That included quite a few stationary minutes, which does bring the average down. Most of the time I couldn't legally go any faster or was held up by traffic.
Just a heads up Burl, it’s apparently very easy to add a USB port in the dome light area to power dashcams, would recommend if the cable down causes annoyance
How do you add a USB port?
Thanks for the great video
Fantastic vid Burl, very impressed with that range
A lot of people are moving over to a better route planner tethered to OBD dongle so that their stop over calculations are linked to the point in time state of their charge. Does zip map works similarly.
Now MG just needs to sell the Trophy without that silly pointless spoiler. It does nothing for the car and only increases drag. The fact you can't order the SE Long Range with the Trophy equipment outside that is a silly choice on their point.
Err NO the spoiler is great.
Agreed. Would be great to have the Trophy equipment with the LFP battery. Spoiler looks like a teenage wet dream but most people just want a simple classic design.
About 10 mins in - it's too many cars in urban areas that made it take 7 mins to do a mile, not the speed limit.
Interesting as I remember a commentator saying a while ago the people use minor roads to save distance . Not only clogging small roads up but negating the reason for bypasses and faster routes.
MG4 looks a decent car though
Seems like the MG4 EV is seriously good! I don't need a car as I don't travel too much, so usually just use coach or train. But if I needed a car, Id definitely consider this
My accumulated average is sitting at 3.6 m/kwh after just over 1k miles. Not amazing, but i don't drive very carefully as i don't see the point of driving an EV if you're not going to use the superior acceleration to your advantage. Plus it's just more fun. I only worry about having range when i do those longer trips. Manchester to London Heathrow and back is going to be a challenge in December. Going off the WLTP I should be able to make it just barely without charging, but with the temperature that doesn't seem likely so there are a few rapid charging stations I've bookmarked along the last bits of the M40.
In colder weather, driving slowly uses more energy for heating, so the balance between going faster and rapid charging more often vs slow and higher range is even tighter. I'd be expecting to charge on your Heathrow run in the winter! Aim to be no lower than 10%, at least that gives you 20 miles worth of options if your preferred charge point is out of order.
It's Cathays... you're unlikely to hit 20mph unless it's the middle of the night. Average speed in Cardiff city centre is around 8-13mph from before the 20mph limit, which tallies better with your 7 min for 1 mile estimate too.
Very useful as I own one 2.
Great video, what size battery has the MG , and what size pv system have you , cheers
The battery is generally considered as 62KWh useable. I have a 4KWP solar setup on the house and 7KWP on the garage, with 20KWh battery storage on each.
This is really interesting. How did you manage to get such a high m/kWh figure?
Other videos I've watched seem to only get 3-3.5 m/kWh?
Was it because you avoided the motorway?
Exactly that. Motorways and dual carriageways at 70MPH reduce efficiency. going between 50 and 60 pushes the efficiency up
You must have a light right foot, I average 4.4 at best in my SE LR... 😅
More like slow traffic on the A roads, 50mph speed limits all along the M4 through Newport and Cardiff areas, tyre pressures adjusted up to max permitted, and careful use of vehicles in front for aero efficiency!
Looks a great car, though at least on the video the road noise on the motorway seemed quite excessive.
Most of that is fan noise from constantly having to demist the screen!
Is that all your daughter is taking ??
When my 2 daughter were at uni, the Skoda Estates was rammed to the roof!! (Octavia and Superb)
She's pretty good really. Small rooms in the uni houses.
Made no difference if it was just Halls of residence or house !@@BurlSolomons
@@andrewstafford-jones4291 my sons were worse, the oldest especially, but they have always driven themselves after 1st year.
Great vid mate. Thinking of getting the Trophy version of this in March. I'm a newbie to EVs. How much is it to charge a car from home overnight vs going to fill up a petrol car?
I recently fixed for a year with Eon Next Drive tariff, which gives you 7 hours cheap rate electricity from approx midnight to 7am for the entire house including the car charger. You need a smart meter to get the best rates. I pay 9.5p per KWh, which is around 2.5p per mile. £4.75 gives me around 200 miles. A gallon of petrol is currently £7.30....
@@BurlSolomons Thanks
Interesting video. Did you use default driving mode and regeneration settings (Normal & 3) ?, and are those your preferred settings?
Yes to both questions!
@@BurlSolomonswould you not recommend ECO mode? Any reason you didn’t choose that for this journey?
Thanks
(I’ve had my MG4 LR for 5 days)
@@garywise1378 I have had electric cars since the first Leaf in 2012. Back then, with a limited range of 80 miles max and hardly any chargers available, eco mode could make the difference between getting home and being stranded. The compromises of eco mode are too great. Reduced heating and ventilation, reduced performance. The Zoes I had wouldn't do more than 60 in eco mode and took ages to get there.
I like the car to behave the way I expect it to when I switch on the heater or put my foot down, eco mode alters that.
Good to know. Thanks for that.
@@garywise1378 you have a minimum of 200 miles in winter conditions, so my opinion is keep it in standard mode and start looking for a charger when you have 50 miles range left. Always have a second choice location available in case of faulty chargers.
Hi, if it was 7mins at 20mph, how long would it have taken at 30mph? With traffic would it have made any appreciable difference to the experience of the drive? Isn't it just something we'll get used to? I just hope that it's only 20mph where it needs to be for genuine pedestrian safety.
Blanket 20 mph limit everywhere with few exceptions. Traffic couldn't get off the 50mph dual carriageway fast enough so was backing up on the new 20mph limited main roads into town
@@BurlSolomons Hopefully will "bed-in" and become normal. Perhaps there should be more exceptions. Thanks for the video.
Its pretty good. People mistakenly believe it's a "blanket limit everywhere" just like burl here but it isn't.
It's the default for restricted urban roads, but councils are allowed to apply 30mph limits where they feel it appropriate. It basically forces road planners to think more about their infra, rather than leaving it to defaults. Where it falls down of course is when councils just did naff all before the deadline and things like the roads showcased in flintshire in the middle of nowhere being 20mph, but thankfully they're actually revisiting those issues now.
Overall its bedded in well, folk do tailgate and folk do speed, but they're speeding at 25-28 rather than 35-38 and tailgating at speeds where City AEB (a safety system you'll find on every new car) becomes extremely effective at avoiding accidents.
I've found it much easier to exit junctions on busy roads as cars are slower generally, leaving you much more time to join the road.
That is... all outside of rush hour. At rush hour, well even on 60mph A roads I'm averaging my usual 16mph anyway.
Could see if I was a taxi or delivery driver why it might "frustrate" me as 20 is a smaller number than 30, but pragmatically its made almost zero difference in my driving times.
One tip if you're not used to it - speed limiters really help with dialing in the muscle memory for 20 :)
@@BurlSolomonsodd thought process that 20mph = back up on a 50mph road but 30mph = no back up.
30 is still slower than 50. Unless the road is completely full of nose to tail traffic travelling at exactly the speed limit I think this is a case of bad attribution.
More likely a case of traffic light timing, or just congestion, rather than the new speed limit.
Nice to see how easily it did that journey without needing to charge, cracking average miles / kWh. Quick question if you don't mind , is that Google navigation native to the car or via Android auto / apple carplay? Looking forward to getting my trophy next month👍
The Trophy has its own built in Nav, but I always use Android Auto on the infotainment screen. Incidentally, the nav directions can't be displayed on the driving instrument screen
I'd recommend a Motorola MA1. Enables easy wireless AA or CarPlay. So you can keep your phone in your pocket or elsewhere and not have to connect it each time. The MG4 only has wired AA & CarPlay. Enjoy your new car.
I think that now there are a few Tesla superchargers available to you on the route which may have been cheaper
Still nothing cheaper than home charging
wowzers
32kph in all built up areas? How built up is built up?
Why charge the car from solar when you can get an overnight tariff cheaper than selling it back to the grid?
Because I get paid more for export than my cheap rate!
@@BurlSolomons I’m missing something…
@Neil2022 on the old feed in tariff you get paid a fixed fee for every unit you generate, plus another fixed fee for half of all you generate as an estimated export fee whether you use it or not@@Neil2022
which model??
trophy LR - he did say
If a reasonably lengthy road trip in an EV did not involve some challenge, videos like this would be pointless.
Why why Roads in England are really really small ?
because they are very very old based on old farming routes and each side of the road the land belongs to someone.
@@cjmillsnun Fair enough..I can imagine
The infotainment screen seems rather laggy.
I can't get over 3.7 in my MG4 Trophy, and I have strong regen, use normal or eco, and don't really drive much on motorways. I'm baffled!
I averaged 4 between Christmas and yesterday over 3000 miles, with a lot of short journeys and a few motorway trips.
@@BurlSolomonsI averaged 3.57 in 2023 over 10k miles with my 77kWh RWD Ioniq 5. My average speed was 42. I mostly drive in Switzerland and France, and I always use motorways if possible. I can safely do 200 miles going 82mph in Switzerland and 90mph in France in any weather that allows this speed. Then I can recharge 60 miles in 5 minutes and 120 miles in 10 minutes. So we're talking about three and a half hours of constantly driving 90, with a ten minute break. In reality it's almost always around four hours of hammering on the motorway, because of speed limits, construction, péage etc. Driving on the motorway has several advantages: not adding to through traffic in towns and villages on the route, traffic safety, less tiring to name a few. And I figure since I'm on the motorway allready, I may as well hammer it. However, things are different if the car charges slow or its range is poor.
@theboffin1 You're not driving efficiently. Driving efficiently isn't driving slow. It's a lot about anticipating traffic, driving at a constant speed, no braking, no accelerating. Use the speed limiter at all times. Driving at 30 constantly improves efficiency by 0.1m/kWh, compared to oscilating between 29 and 31. Do not use ACC, unless you are on the motorway. Use the lowest regen level your car has, or auto-regen, if your car has that feature.
Real world driving would have been on the motorway though and going fastest route like normal people do? Most people won't go cross country roads, risk meeting tractors and being delayed even further etc and then you've got the potholes, loose chirpings damaging your car , bushes sticking out on the road and the wear and tear on the car from taking those roads regularly
The round trip journey is 70 miles further by motorway /dual carriageway. It takes 10 minutes longer each way going cross-country. I would therefore have been required to stop for a charge at some point on the return leg. This would undoubtedly have taken more than 20 minutes, and cost an arm and a leg at a public rapid charger. So actually the lower speed route takes less time.
I also find little so boring as motorway driving, and if there is a serious accident on a motorway or dual carriageway you are totally stuck until it is cleared by the emergency services, which can take many hours. On a single lane road, you can always just turn around and find another route. Plenty of potholes / deep scoring and grooves on the M3 / M27, I have to constantly keep back to spot them and then weave around them to avoid when on my motorbike.
In the states, driving 120 km per hour ( on the Freeways) I bet you will not get that type of range. We drive fast here...lol.
120 km/h is 74. Our speed limit on motorways is 70. We drive in MPH here same as you do.
don't drive like a miser just because you've got an EV. It's up to the company to build an efficient car, then we drive it however we feel like and deal with the consequences. It'll be a great shame if we become misers
It depends on whether time is more important to you than money. I could have saved 8 minutes each way going the A34 and M4 route, driving much faster and averaging 55mph, but I would have travelled 60 miles further and used the entire battery and then some. That would have meant a minimum 20 minute charging stop, so the journey would have taken longer. It's not about being a miser, it's about being efficient. As I said, I don't see how I could have done the journey any faster in any other car.
I have started driving slower since I got an EV. When you factor in traffic and even without, going say 80 mph over say 70 mph does not make a whole bunch of difference in the total time my journey, the range also improves. I do draw the line at turning off AC and heating though, I still want to travel in comfort.
I have started driving slower since I got an EV. When you factor in traffic and even without, going say 80 mph over say 70 mph does not make a whole bunch of difference in the total time my journey, the range also improves. I do draw the line at turning off AC and heating though, I still want to travel in comfort.
@@mistymu8154 I'll turn off the AC/heating if the ambient temperature means I don't need it. Otherwise it stays on.
Nice video, however as I drive a diesel car I would have taken the dual carriageway and M4 if there were no problems showing as I much prefer driving on dual carriageways and motorways as I feel they are much safer to drive on so I think having to drive longer and on crappy single carriageway road is a pretty sad indictment of having an electric car and having to hunt out charging sites whereas fuel stations are just about around every corner.
Difference is I suppose is in the cost. As he hadn't needed to use public charging lets assume he charged his car at home on the cheapest possible charge platform (7.5p per kWh). 233 miles at 4.6m/kWh is 50.65kw/h of energy used. It will have cost him just £3.79 to make that journey.
If you used the motorway, you'd cover 278 miles. In a diesel car doing a very conservative 60mpg, you would need 4.63 gallons of diesel to make the journey. At a cost of £1.60 per L (£7.26 per gallon) you'd be looking at a cost of £33.61 for the same journey.
Nearly 10x more expensive...
Funny I prefer country lanes. They're more fun.