Even though I love the joker I'm glad they went with Riddler for this. We've had 4 live action movie jokers but only 1 movie riddler and that was in the 90's
@L2-SPIRIT you definitely don’t look at the Batman news. In test screenings people have claimed the joker makes a cameo in the post credits. Rumored to be played by Barry Kheogan who played Druig in the eternals. When asked about the rumors Barry Khegoan claimed he wasn’t allowed to talk about it. And by accident his brother tweeted how he has proud that he got the role as the joker and then delete it.
Totally agree. These guys along with Keoghan and Kravitz are all roughly the same age an I believe will be seen more than just in this film. There is purpose to this all.
I think each independent Batman franchise picked the perfect villain for their first movie. The Joker was perfect for Burton’s unique blend of the zany and the macabre, and Nicholson’s portrayal was flawless for the established tone. Scarecrow was the perfect first villain for Nolan’s Batman to face, because of Begins’ focus on the Batman as a symbol of fear; when Bruce first faced Crane in the movie, he had till that point only taken on petty criminals and mob-bosses, a “cowardly and superstitious lot”, and he had mastered the use of psychological warfare, but had never met one who was as adept as himself at using terror to his advantage, and thus was caught completely off guard and had to adapt to fighting opponents who knew his game. And in The Batman, we appear to be getting a much greater focus on the detective in “world’s greatest detective” than ever before as well as a psychological deep dive, and who better to give Bruce his first real challenge in a game of wits and force him to confront his demons than Edward Nashton?
Between Bale, Affleck, and Pattinson, I think they nail a particular aspect of Batman in their own ways. Bale's movies got the philosophical aspect (Fear, Identity, Code/Chance/Chaos, etc). Affleck however had the perfect look and better action scenes, hitting the physical aspect. Pattinson's looks very promising and would indeed dive into Batman's mental detective work and emotional layers, which seems to hit the psychological aspect.
I suppose that means that the worst tragedy of the Snyder and Affleck take on Batman is he never got the perfect villain even when he was right in front of them all along. A Batfleck movie facing down Joe Manganiello's take on Deathstroke would have been a perfect spectacle of the very best fighters/strategists in the DCU. Such a shame.
Honestly I'd rather have seen the scarecrow in a Tim Burton's Batman, because I believe he would have been way more visually stunning. Just imagine the scarecrow in a Tim Burton's Batman movie.
I'm glad Matt Reeves reinvented the character. He always had potential but he only had cheesy portrayals in most media. This serial killer vibe will revitalize the character and make people take him more seriously. Not to mention Paul Dano will surely do him justice.
I do hope he gets the green tux look tho. Fashion is a big part of Batman’s villains, and the Riddler in the trailers is too subtle in my opinion. Not that the Schumacher version did him any justice
It’s not really a reinvention people have made riddler more dark in a couple storylines. I like the zodiac killer take bc it’s literally what I would’ve done I just hope they don’t try to Jokerize him and have him killing people in the most gruesome fashion ever w a weak ass clue. The riddler isn’t the joker he isn’t killing people for the fun of it, killing is the boring part like a shot to the head the fun part is the puzzle and proving his genius. I also don’t wanna hear a bunch of “we live in a society bs” Chris Nolan did a great job with adding a little bit of reason to the joker but I’m sick of him being used as a mouthpiece for edgy outcast crybabies. Actually that kind of mentality works for the riddler bc he’s a loser with a massive ego who thinks he’s so much more different than everyone else. It’d be a great take if they poke a bunch of holes in that idiotic mentality when Batman outsmarts him it’s just been done and people completely missed the point. I heard for years about how ledgers Joker was so deep and society this society that when even in the movie Joker basically says it’s not really society I just like killing people and fucking shit up duh that’s why I lie my ass off whenever I give my gaslighting tragic origin story.
@@gnarrcan108 Yeah, I’m kinda worried about the villains being turned into political messages too. As much as I liked Nolan’s films, I did miss the bigger than life personalities that made the villains so iconic, and I think trying to copy those films would be a bad idea. The trailers of The Batman is getting me hyped, and I can’t wait to see the Riddler, but I kinda did get the impression that the Riddler was also going to be someone who cares more about getting a message across than himself, much like Ledger’s Joker, which goes against his prideful nature. I kinda hope we get to see more personality than in the trailers, because the edgy villain with a message for a personality was fun for two movies, but not more
Paul Dano is one of the most fascinating actors working today. Nobody ever talks about him, he’s not in the spotlight much, yet he consistently turns in incredible performances time and time again. I absolutely love that none of the trailers have shown his face yet, and with Dano being a more obscure actor to general audiences, he’s truly gonna transform into the Ridder
Couldn’t agree more, everything I’ve seen him in he’s been absolute gold in from Little Miss Sunshine and There Will Be Blood to Twelve Years A Slave and Swiss Army Man, he is one of the most layered and powerful actors of our time and giving him a version of the Riddler that is directly inspired by the Zodiac Killer is a perfect combination of actor and character to me and makes me even more hyped to see the movie
This is the most raw and realistic Batman film so far. We have had the fantasy Batman films, then the Bale / Nolan films. Now year 2 Batman should be one of the best takes on the character, about time we see the worlds greatest detective in action. Can’t wait
@@hugocanuto6981 ehhhhhh idk about a realistic Batman all the other have killed and none of the others touched the detective and more brainy part of the Batman not just show up kick ass
Paul Dano is one of the best actors of all time. His portrayal of the Riddler will be as amazing as anything we have ever seen before. So stoked to see his performance.
Paul Dano is so slept on as a great acting talent, and always shines with roles such as this one. His role in Prisoners, for example, speaks volumes to what he can bring to a Zodiac-esque Riddler
They should have gave 2 Oscar awards for best supporting actor when There Will Be Blood came out. I think he was just as deserving as Javier Bardem to be acknowledged as an amazing actor.
You overlooked the connection of Bruce Wayne's father to the Court of Owls. This certainly will connect Bruce and the Riddler and answers how Riddler knows The Batman's real name.
The moment I learned that Paul Dano was cast as The Riddler, my interest went up. He's a brilliant actor and I believe he'll knock it out of the park with this role.
I highly believe that Paul will get an oscar coz mannn, i have a feeling , a gut feeling, that he will be phenomenal. I cant believe that i ( probably u as well, cortex) we have been following the movie for 4 yrs. The end is near. I bet money that Robert will be the ultimate and recognisable Batman. That is my view. Brillant vid mate, hope to see more of them
Dano will steal this show IMO. Using Riddler to kickoff this trilogy to challenge Batman in ways we haven’t seen on screen was genius. Hype is all in my veins.
I’ve always been a massive riddler fan and I feel the reason he hasn’t been super prominent bc he’s actually really hard to write like creating puzzles and riddles that are actually clever and make you believe Batman is the worlds greatest detective without doing corny 1966 riddles (which I love by the way Frank Gorshin was the best part of that show). The zodiac killer approach was always the way I figured someone would do it for a film but I’m still skeptical that the riddlers clues will be the driving force of the film rather than him just being a gruesome serial killer. Like if the riddlers code actually has a plausible answer and the focus is on that. The whole point of the character isn’t that he’s captain edgelord like the joker the murders he’s committing don’t need to be ridiculously macabre just cold and calculating the killing is the boring part for him the fun part is fulfilling his obsessive compulsive desire to be smarter than everyone.
I think Matt will combine both elements, he’ll kill high society Gotham figures but use riddles to both confuse and taunt the police but at the same time taunt Batman and lead him on a cat and mouse chase with Wayne being the cat and Edward being the mouse, IF that is what they are going for then it’s gonna be freaking perfect imo
Honestly his "obsessive compulsive desire to be smarter than everyone" is exactly what i don't like about the character. Riddler trying to prove that he is smarter than Bats is always annoying. Like, there's nothing interesting about that because Batman literally doesn't give a shit and he always ends up winning anyway. Also, if Riddler was smarter than batman then he shouldn't feel the need to prove it. In this movie Riddler seems to be trying to reveal a big conspiracy because he's the only one smart enough to notice it, which in my opinion is a much more interesting role.
Paul Dano's scariness can be seen perfectly in Prisoners. Combined with his brutality seen in 12 Years a slave and his weirdness in many other movies like The girl next door, it almost seems like he was born for the role. I honestly believe his performance will be praised like Heath Ledger's Joker, it all comes down to the script.
The zodiac killer dressed for utility and to confuse and disguise. For example the baggy or larger clothing makes it harder to identify the person and their build. Same with the big sunglasses and bag like mask. To conceal his true identity. I wonder how the detective work will be portrayed this time.
I’ve always really enjoyed riddler and think he makes a great foil for Batman, he’s been so under-used in media outside the comics. He’s a character that can rival Batman intellectually but is consistently defeated by his own arrogance.
I love this reimagining of The Riddler, The Riddler is always portrayed as kinda goofy and comedic and the fact that he's a super genius is never really highlighted to the degree of my liking, like if he's a super genius I'm sure he would have a serious demeanor and wouldn't care for comedic antics, and so easily be beaten by Batman, people also have to understand this is the beginning of The Riddlers criminal career, I'm sure over time he'll decide to wear the suit when he's more established as a crime boss
I knew about Paul Dano's acting abilities from the film There will be blood. If you can share screen time with Daniel Day Lewis and hold your own then that should tell you how talented this guy is!
I love how the director created the concept of The Riddler. I didn’t know that inspiration was based on Heath Ledger’s Joker although the interrogation scene on the trailer remind me of The Dark Knight but way different. I am digging in with this Riddler that is gritty and a Zodiac killer. My dad isn’t a huge fan of this Riddler when I’ve told him about it because he is more of a 60’s Riddler person, meaning that he is more of a fan of the 60’s Riddler because I remembered him watching the TV series and myself watching Batman Forever. However, I disagree with my dad. I highly prefer the zodiac killer Riddler than the comedic Riddler from the 60’s and Batman Forever. That being said, I’m dying to see the new Batman movie. I am so tired of waiting 😂
I mean it doesn't have much to do with being a die hard fan, but this is just a guy wearing a combat mask. Granted atleast the mask is green, but this might aswell just be a standard henchman. They can still make the character very Riddler like, but the outfit/design doesn't do it for me either. I can understand that a Jim Carrey design would be out of place in this particular film, but then just go with another villain like Hush or something.
Agreed he would be difficult to make plausible and realistic in this movie’s universe but the two actors I’d personally choose to play him would be either Peter Capaldi (The Thinker in The Suicide Squad) or Patrick Stewart (Professor X from X-Men)
Based on behind the scenes photos and a shot of him from the back in the first trailer, Paul Dano's appearance as the Riddler is very reminiscent of his character in 'Prisoners'.
I believe in Matt Reeves, I mean, he made the last two Planet of the Apes films great, and I would never doubt that The Batman's villain wouldn't be too, so yeah, I'm saying this now even if the film hasn't come out, The Riddler, while not or may not top Heath Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight, is great.
Love how they haven't shown too much of the Riddler in the trailers and stuff either, or even Dano's face in the trailers. Something about it makes me more intrigued as to what the character is gonna be like in the movie.
Personally, I like the look of this Riddler. It fits the tone. Even more important, though, this is the ONLY movie Riddler that actually uses riddles. That already makes this version - regardless of what you think of the look - an essentially superior one.
5:30 I think most people get it, some like it and some not that much. I liked Nolan Batman movies but I feel less hyped about the grounded Batman world going in a second time with it. More detective work though. That’s good.
Agreed I hate the notion being pushed now that Batman should automatically be realistic and grounded as possible. I get he is a grounded character , but superheroes in the first place aren’t “realistic” But this movie looks like a mix and not too realistic and even grounded.
@@Hatedlikedavid superheroes are a sub genre of sci-fi and we know about all the Batman gadgets… though Batman being among the more grounded ones he is more flexible and we might not see far fetched gadgets this time… not saying that is a bad thing. Though I was eager to see more of a balance between grounded and comic book elements before this movie was announced.
I love the Riddler and Matt Reeves rendition of him, and I am super glad that we will finally have a detective film with one of my favorite super heros(f super-man)
This film is R rated. It is 3 hours. The image of Riddler in full costume here is terrifying and will certainly frighten children. That is so awesome. Zodiac-ish. Nolan made Scarecrow literally terrifying and now Riddler will be. Jim Carrey played himself not the Riddler.
I think the new look for the Riddler is really neat and cool at the same time for me as a Batman fan I mean going with a new look for the Riddler that's neat and a new and fresh for me and the same thing with Robert Pattinson's Batman suit and Zoe Kravitz Catwoman suit it's all new and fresh for me as a Batman fan so I think it's really neat especially the Riddler outfit I really like it and I still cannot wait to see the Batman I know when we got a few months away and I'm excited really excited everyone have a great day
Few people have noted that Paul Dano’s face is never shown in promotional material. That’s a good thing as it helps make the character all the more mysterious although the Riddler doesn’t seem to wear full-face mask in the comics.
I had watched Prisoners prior to him being cast as The Riddler. But after knowing Paul Dano is going to be the Riddler I have been watching his movies and so far I've only great things to say about him. I've watched Okja and Looper. He was just awesome.
I'm really looking forward to this. The Riddler has undergone some changes in the last years from what was seen with the Animated Series or Batman: Forever. Thanks to the Arkham Game Series & the Gotham Show, people began to actually see him as a substantial character, which i'm very glad about, since he's always kinda been my fav Batman Villain. I hope this movie will do him justice. I'm optimistic tho.
i dont know how people could not like the design of the costume, it brings this unsettling feel and it makes me think if someone was real like that how scary it really would be.
No matter how you see it, for better or for worse (for better in my opinion) Paul Dano has been typecast as how you have described someone being creepy, suspicious, and innocent. Looking back at his performances it seems that the Riddler role seems to take advantage of Dano's vindictive and almost zealous character experience as The Pastor in There Will Be Blood with the eerie, slow-burn mystery that you can find in his character in Prisoners. He has been touted as Hollywood's Most Punchable Face and for good reason, he is damn good in his acting.
I've always liked the idea of The Riddler as a villain but I've never liked its image portrayal as in the campy Batman, Jim Carrey's, or any portrayals in green suits, bowl hats, and question marks dotted across clothing. I've always thought of The Riddler as dark, an enigma, inscrutable, and this new image portrayal is a great interpretation. The other portrayals are cartoony and costumey. But I do love this new version: sinister-looking with this type of mask and garb. This type of mask and garb is what the character needed; the mask is gold.
I actually conceived a Zodiac like version of the Riddler about twelve years ago for the Nolan films. I'm looking forward to see how close this version is to what I thought of.
I've never really cared for Riddler as a Bat-villain; always found him visually bland and kind of lame/predictable. So I'm pretty excited for this new interpretation of the character!
Paul Dano could be a great bit casting for a character that had been pretty much over looked. Like Newmar with catwoman Frank Gorshin made Riddler with his own energy and that laugh was something else
I love it as well, they’ve kept the core traits of the character but reinterpreted them to be less flashy trickster and more Zodiac Killer which is a freaking perfect adaptation of what we know but also something brand new
I big hope I have is that Riddler has a great backstory that explains his actions. I do not want him to be a misterious force of chaos like the Joker, I want him to be a smart villain with an understable backstory that challenges Batman's intellect and detective skills.
If anyone is looking to read a dark Riddler story in advance of this film, I cannot recommend Dark Knight Dark City highly enough. It’s this iteration of the character that made him one of my favorites. Kinda like Seven meets Die Hard with a Vengeance.
The only gripe I have with the movie so far is the cape on Batman. Just wish it was hitting the floor instead of stopping short at the heels of his boots
I think they’re going for a more “Hush” type look. Kind of a funny little nod to “reviving” a character. Not that I think this is Hush Riddler, just a small joke reference. But I like the glasses outside the mask. As someone who struggled as a kid to wear glasses with Halloween costumes, it’s very relatable to see someone slapping them on top of the mask 😂 Makes the Riddler feel even more human to me. An awkward intellectual playing dress up for the part, but who still wants to sell the character they’ve created. A great foil to Bruce’s own costume.
I’m excited for The Riddler especially since the live action movies don’t show other villains apart from Joker most of the time. And I am thinking that he will be doing things in the prison to terrorise Bruce in some way.
I'm amazed that no one ever mentions Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood. He managed to hold his own against Daniel Day-Lewis! That is a testament to his acting skills if you ask me.
does anybody remember fritz lang's classic M. where the mob hires someone to find the serial killer. The riddler is killing corrupt people in devious ways so the mob(penguin) and batman form a temporary alliance to catch him.
I remember being skeptical when The Riddler was confirmed as the villain but after they announced both Paul as the character and the design was revealed I was fully on board, as much as I love Frank and Jim I honestly think Paul will become THE definitive portrayal of the character, the fact that they’ve gone for the visual direction of the Zodiac Killer is freaking perfect because it COULD actually happen and that’s what makes this version so much more unnerving and unsettling which organically enhances both Paul’s performance and how people will watch him
Riddler and mr freeze are my fav batman villains and they say this series might try and do Mr freeze aswell so im more than hyped for this new batman franchise 😁
The riddler will be the best villain in the Batman’s gallery bc of the fact that Paul Dano is going for a more groundbreaking version of the riddler and also the fact that Robert Pattinson has been cast to portray this role of the Batman
I’d like to believe that I will seriously like this version of the Riddler better than previous ones. If another Batman movie debuts, I hope the next villain is either Two-face and/or Blackmask.
I just hope he doesn’t die I like it when they bring back good and interesting villains and I was disappointed when in Batman the telltale series he dies
I feel like after Nolan's batman, they wouldn't green light anything less than a compelling movie concept. The riddler is the centerpiece of this puzzle, and he looks great. High hopes, no expectations
Really good. Very inciting and perceptive. I think that you are right this will be an exciting new turn on the Batman and the Riddler. Any real comic book reader knows that the characters must and do change over the years to attract new audiences and reader. That is now true with the films. I cannot wait. Thanks.
Wow keep ‘em coming man this was great. I really think this role as riddler is perfect for Dano and I agree he was spectacular in prisoners just an amazing film with fantastic acting. Just started to realize this movie is only a month and a half away
Here's another topical video for my road The Batman series where I discuss all the reasons why Paul Dano's Riddler can be a great villain.
Paul Dano doesn’t get enough credit
Even though I love the joker I'm glad they went with Riddler for this. We've had 4 live action movie jokers but only 1 movie riddler and that was in the 90's
Spoiler:joker is there in this movie for one minute
really?
@L2-SPIRIT may be ,not confirmed, but test screening ,some people said this in reddit .
There’s a Joker cameo rumor but nobody really knows. It’s time the riddler got his due and this actor could crush it as well as ledger did for joker
@L2-SPIRIT you definitely don’t look at the Batman news. In test screenings people have claimed the joker makes a cameo in the post credits. Rumored to be played by Barry Kheogan who played Druig in the eternals. When asked about the rumors Barry Khegoan claimed he wasn’t allowed to talk about it. And by accident his brother tweeted how he has proud that he got the role as the joker and then delete it.
Paul Dano is one of the most underrated actors of our time. Pairing him up Robert Pattinson’s Batman is just GENIUS!!
Totally agree. These guys along with Keoghan and Kravitz are all roughly the same age an I believe will be seen more than just in this film. There is purpose to this all.
@@nf1101 this is all coming together
@@nf1101 Matt Reeves has plans for a trilogy.
Him not even getting a nomination for There Will Be Blood is one of the worst slaps in the face that can come to my mind.
But why make paul the Riddler.
I think each independent Batman franchise picked the perfect villain for their first movie.
The Joker was perfect for Burton’s unique blend of the zany and the macabre, and Nicholson’s portrayal was flawless for the established tone.
Scarecrow was the perfect first villain for Nolan’s Batman to face, because of Begins’ focus on the Batman as a symbol of fear; when Bruce first faced Crane in the movie, he had till that point only taken on petty criminals and mob-bosses, a “cowardly and superstitious lot”, and he had mastered the use of psychological warfare, but had never met one who was as adept as himself at using terror to his advantage, and thus was caught completely off guard and had to adapt to fighting opponents who knew his game.
And in The Batman, we appear to be getting a much greater focus on the detective in “world’s greatest detective” than ever before as well as a psychological deep dive, and who better to give Bruce his first real challenge in a game of wits and force him to confront his demons than Edward Nashton?
Between Bale, Affleck, and Pattinson, I think they nail a particular aspect of Batman in their own ways.
Bale's movies got the philosophical aspect (Fear, Identity, Code/Chance/Chaos, etc).
Affleck however had the perfect look and better action scenes, hitting the physical aspect.
Pattinson's looks very promising and would indeed dive into Batman's mental detective work and emotional layers, which seems to hit the psychological aspect.
I suppose that means that the worst tragedy of the Snyder and Affleck take on Batman is he never got the perfect villain even when he was right in front of them all along. A Batfleck movie facing down Joe Manganiello's take on Deathstroke would have been a perfect spectacle of the very best fighters/strategists in the DCU. Such a shame.
Honestly I'd rather have seen the scarecrow in a Tim Burton's Batman, because I believe he would have been way more visually stunning. Just imagine the scarecrow in a Tim Burton's Batman movie.
scarecrow was not even the main villain for nolans batman begins
@@iziah2161 Yeah I think Matt Reeves should use Scarecrow if he makes a sequel
I'm glad Matt Reeves reinvented the character. He always had potential but he only had cheesy portrayals in most media. This serial killer vibe will revitalize the character and make people take him more seriously.
Not to mention Paul Dano will surely do him justice.
I do hope he gets the green tux look tho. Fashion is a big part of Batman’s villains, and the Riddler in the trailers is too subtle in my opinion. Not that the Schumacher version did him any justice
It’s not really a reinvention people have made riddler more dark in a couple storylines. I like the zodiac killer take bc it’s literally what I would’ve done I just hope they don’t try to Jokerize him and have him killing people in the most gruesome fashion ever w a weak ass clue. The riddler isn’t the joker he isn’t killing people for the fun of it, killing is the boring part like a shot to the head the fun part is the puzzle and proving his genius. I also don’t wanna hear a bunch of “we live in a society bs” Chris Nolan did a great job with adding a little bit of reason to the joker but I’m sick of him being used as a mouthpiece for edgy outcast crybabies. Actually that kind of mentality works for the riddler bc he’s a loser with a massive ego who thinks he’s so much more different than everyone else. It’d be a great take if they poke a bunch of holes in that idiotic mentality when Batman outsmarts him it’s just been done and people completely missed the point. I heard for years about how ledgers Joker was so deep and society this society that when even in the movie Joker basically says it’s not really society I just like killing people and fucking shit up duh that’s why I lie my ass off whenever I give my gaslighting tragic origin story.
@@gnarrcan108 Yeah, I’m kinda worried about the villains being turned into political messages too. As much as I liked Nolan’s films, I did miss the bigger than life personalities that made the villains so iconic, and I think trying to copy those films would be a bad idea. The trailers of The Batman is getting me hyped, and I can’t wait to see the Riddler, but I kinda did get the impression that the Riddler was also going to be someone who cares more about getting a message across than himself, much like Ledger’s Joker, which goes against his prideful nature. I kinda hope we get to see more personality than in the trailers, because the edgy villain with a message for a personality was fun for two movies, but not more
Wait a sec the riddler is paul dano??? Awesome
exactly!!!I just hope he wears the tux
Riddler is my favorite batman villain and i'm so happy he's the main villain in this and after this movie everyone will know how good he is
Yes sir
What's the Riddler's deal?
I won't know because this is a new riddler not comic riddler.
Idk why people are forgetting the Gotham tv show version of the riddler. Probably the best live action one out there right now
Paul Dano is one of the most fascinating actors working today. Nobody ever talks about him, he’s not in the spotlight much, yet he consistently turns in incredible performances time and time again. I absolutely love that none of the trailers have shown his face yet, and with Dano being a more obscure actor to general audiences, he’s truly gonna transform into the Ridder
Couldn’t agree more, everything I’ve seen him in he’s been absolute gold in from Little Miss Sunshine and There Will Be Blood to Twelve Years A Slave and Swiss Army Man, he is one of the most layered and powerful actors of our time and giving him a version of the Riddler that is directly inspired by the Zodiac Killer is a perfect combination of actor and character to me and makes me even more hyped to see the movie
This is the most raw and realistic Batman film so far. We have had the fantasy Batman films, then the Bale / Nolan films.
Now year 2 Batman should be one of the best takes on the character, about time we see the worlds greatest detective in action.
Can’t wait
This looks like the dumbest, cheapest Walmart emo Batman ever. To even compare it to batfleck and Nolan is plain stupid and pathetic
In your opinion.
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We already had a realistic batman, now we need some fantasy sprinkled in, not too much
@@hugocanuto6981 ehhhhhh idk about a realistic Batman all the other have killed and none of the others touched the detective and more brainy part of the Batman not just show up kick ass
Paul Dano is one of the best actors of all time. His portrayal of the Riddler will be as amazing as anything we have ever seen before. So stoked to see his performance.
Paul Dano is so slept on as a great acting talent, and always shines with roles such as this one. His role in Prisoners, for example, speaks volumes to what he can bring to a Zodiac-esque Riddler
No he isn’t slept on, everybody knows he ia great
@@thatswhatithought6519 because you speak for 8 billion people, right? 🤡
They should have gave 2 Oscar awards for best supporting actor when There Will Be Blood came out. I think he was just as deserving as Javier Bardem to be acknowledged as an amazing actor.
@@earlgreysweatpants i may be a clown but your mama loves me on top of her
You overlooked the connection of Bruce Wayne's father to the Court of Owls. This certainly will connect Bruce and the Riddler and answers how Riddler knows The Batman's real name.
The moment I learned that Paul Dano was cast as The Riddler, my interest went up. He's a brilliant actor and I believe he'll knock it out of the park with this role.
Mad hatter, a modern mad matter would be a great fit in my opinion.
I highly believe that Paul will get an oscar coz mannn, i have a feeling , a gut feeling, that he will be phenomenal. I cant believe that i ( probably u as well, cortex) we have been following the movie for 4 yrs. The end is near. I bet money that Robert will be the ultimate and recognisable Batman. That is my view. Brillant vid mate, hope to see more of them
From what we’ve already heard, the score will definitely be nominated and maybe even best writing
he deserves a best supporting actor nomination tho, he should’ve gotten nominated for twbh
Dano will steal this show IMO. Using Riddler to kickoff this trilogy to challenge Batman in ways we haven’t seen on screen was genius. Hype is all in my veins.
@@rileyfernando4380 same I’ve heard that as well.
@Ribby The Party Frog kinda like answering your own question isn’t it?
I love The Riddler! He's one of my favorite comic book villains. I'm hyped! He deserves the spotlight.
I’ve always been a massive riddler fan and I feel the reason he hasn’t been super prominent bc he’s actually really hard to write like creating puzzles and riddles that are actually clever and make you believe Batman is the worlds greatest detective without doing corny 1966 riddles (which I love by the way Frank Gorshin was the best part of that show). The zodiac killer approach was always the way I figured someone would do it for a film but I’m still skeptical that the riddlers clues will be the driving force of the film rather than him just being a gruesome serial killer. Like if the riddlers code actually has a plausible answer and the focus is on that. The whole point of the character isn’t that he’s captain edgelord like the joker the murders he’s committing don’t need to be ridiculously macabre just cold and calculating the killing is the boring part for him the fun part is fulfilling his obsessive compulsive desire to be smarter than everyone.
I think Matt will combine both elements, he’ll kill high society Gotham figures but use riddles to both confuse and taunt the police but at the same time taunt Batman and lead him on a cat and mouse chase with Wayne being the cat and Edward being the mouse, IF that is what they are going for then it’s gonna be freaking perfect imo
Honestly his "obsessive compulsive desire to be smarter than everyone" is exactly what i don't like about the character. Riddler trying to prove that he is smarter than Bats is always annoying. Like, there's nothing interesting about that because Batman literally doesn't give a shit and he always ends up winning anyway.
Also, if Riddler was smarter than batman then he shouldn't feel the need to prove it.
In this movie Riddler seems to be trying to reveal a big conspiracy because he's the only one smart enough to notice it, which in my opinion is a much more interesting role.
The riddler is perfect is because he can bring out bruce’s detective prowess
Paul Dano's scariness can be seen perfectly in Prisoners. Combined with his brutality seen in 12 Years a slave and his weirdness in many other movies like The girl next door, it almost seems like he was born for the role. I honestly believe his performance will be praised like Heath Ledger's Joker, it all comes down to the script.
The zodiac killer dressed for utility and to confuse and disguise. For example the baggy or larger clothing makes it harder to identify the person and their build. Same with the big sunglasses and bag like mask. To conceal his true identity. I wonder how the detective work will be portrayed this time.
Gimp mask
I’ve always really enjoyed riddler and think he makes a great foil for Batman, he’s been so under-used in media outside the comics. He’s a character that can rival Batman intellectually but is consistently defeated by his own arrogance.
I love this reimagining of The Riddler, The Riddler is always portrayed as kinda goofy and comedic and the fact that he's a super genius is never really highlighted to the degree of my liking, like if he's a super genius I'm sure he would have a serious demeanor and wouldn't care for comedic antics, and so easily be beaten by Batman, people also have to understand this is the beginning of The Riddlers criminal career, I'm sure over time he'll decide to wear the suit when he's more established as a crime boss
I knew about Paul Dano's acting abilities from the film There will be blood. If you can share screen time with Daniel Day Lewis and hold your own then that should tell you how talented this guy is!
I love how the director created the concept of The Riddler. I didn’t know that inspiration was based on Heath Ledger’s Joker although the interrogation scene on the trailer remind me of The Dark Knight but way different. I am digging in with this Riddler that is gritty and a Zodiac killer. My dad isn’t a huge fan of this Riddler when I’ve told him about it because he is more of a 60’s Riddler person, meaning that he is more of a fan of the 60’s Riddler because I remembered him watching the TV series and myself watching Batman Forever. However, I disagree with my dad. I highly prefer the zodiac killer Riddler than the comedic Riddler from the 60’s and Batman Forever. That being said, I’m dying to see the new Batman movie. I am so tired of waiting 😂
I mean it doesn't have much to do with being a die hard fan, but this is just a guy wearing a combat mask. Granted atleast the mask is green, but this might aswell just be a standard henchman.
They can still make the character very Riddler like, but the outfit/design doesn't do it for me either. I can understand that a Jim Carrey design would be out of place in this particular film, but then just go with another villain like Hush or something.
Hopefully THE BATMAN is still a comic book movie because I would love to see Mr. Freeze 🥶 in a sequel!
I’d love to see how they can turn him into a dark and realistic character
Agreed he would be difficult to make plausible and realistic in this movie’s universe but the two actors I’d personally choose to play him would be either Peter Capaldi (The Thinker in The Suicide Squad) or Patrick Stewart (Professor X from X-Men)
Based on behind the scenes photos and a shot of him from the back in the first trailer, Paul Dano's appearance as the Riddler is very reminiscent of his character in 'Prisoners'.
After seeing the movie, I thought he was great. Pretty terrifying too
I believe in Matt Reeves, I mean, he made the last two Planet of the Apes films great, and I would never doubt that The Batman's villain wouldn't be too, so yeah, I'm saying this now even if the film hasn't come out, The Riddler, while not or may not top Heath Ledger's Joker in The Dark Knight, is great.
Not to mention he’s a big Batman fan so he will have done his research and know his stuff
Im digging the gritty type films because real life is gritty not always picture perfect. Im a marvel guy but this Batman has me hyped.
Love how they haven't shown too much of the Riddler in the trailers and stuff either, or even Dano's face in the trailers. Something about it makes me more intrigued as to what the character is gonna be like in the movie.
Personally, I like the look of this Riddler. It fits the tone. Even more important, though, this is the ONLY movie Riddler that actually uses riddles. That already makes this version - regardless of what you think of the look - an essentially superior one.
Thats bullshit all riddlers were smart strategic, and insane
I'm telling you, Paul Dano's Riddler will be the only reason why anyone would like the Riddler as a villan. Fuckin intense
Now we just need a proper Mr. Freeze on the big screen. the one in Arkham City was perfect
The Riddler is my favourite DC villain so I'm super excited!
5:30 I think most people get it, some like it and some not that much. I liked Nolan Batman movies but I feel less hyped about the grounded Batman world going in a second time with it. More detective work though. That’s good.
Loved nolan films but they was too grounded gotham was basic blue toned new york glad this one balances that
Agreed I hate the notion being pushed now that Batman should automatically be realistic and grounded as possible. I get he is a grounded character , but superheroes in the first place aren’t “realistic” But this movie looks like a mix and not too realistic and even grounded.
@@Hatedlikedavid superheroes are a sub genre of sci-fi and we know about all the Batman gadgets… though Batman being among the more grounded ones he is more flexible and we might not see far fetched gadgets this time… not saying that is a bad thing. Though I was eager to see more of a balance between grounded and comic book elements before this movie was announced.
@@manart6506 Yeah agreed good point
I love the Riddler and Matt Reeves rendition of him, and I am super glad that we will finally have a detective film with one of my favorite super heros(f super-man)
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This film is R rated. It is 3 hours. The image of Riddler in full costume here is terrifying and will certainly frighten children. That is so awesome. Zodiac-ish. Nolan made Scarecrow literally terrifying and now Riddler will be. Jim Carrey played himself not the Riddler.
I think the new look for the Riddler is really neat and cool at the same time for me as a Batman fan I mean going with a new look for the Riddler that's neat and a new and fresh for me and the same thing with Robert Pattinson's Batman suit and Zoe Kravitz Catwoman suit it's all new and fresh for me as a Batman fan so I think it's really neat especially the Riddler outfit I really like it and I still cannot wait to see the Batman I know when we got a few months away and I'm excited really excited everyone have a great day
One villain that I would redefine for a modern context is Poison Ivy
This Riddler is gonna be WILD!
Few people have noted that Paul Dano’s face is never shown in promotional material. That’s a good thing as it helps make the character all the more mysterious although the Riddler doesn’t seem to wear full-face mask in the comics.
I had watched Prisoners prior to him being cast as The Riddler. But after knowing Paul Dano is going to be the Riddler I have been watching his movies and so far I've only great things to say about him. I've watched Okja and Looper. He was just awesome.
Watch swiss army man. The one with dano and daniel Radcliffe. Its slapstick humor but it was also deep and has a twist
@@bxmully Thank you for your suggestion. Will do.
I'm really looking forward to this.
The Riddler has undergone some changes in the last years from what was seen with the Animated Series or Batman: Forever.
Thanks to the Arkham Game Series & the Gotham Show, people began to actually see him as a substantial character, which i'm very glad about, since he's always kinda been my fav Batman Villain.
I hope this movie will do him justice.
I'm optimistic tho.
The Batman trailer looks awesome bc of the cinematography Colors and tone in which Matt revis is going for
i dont know how people could not like the design of the costume, it brings this unsettling feel and it makes me think if someone was real like that how scary it really would be.
From the trailers i cant help but see parts Hush in this Ridler.
The way he described the feel of putting his costume is all I need to know about Paul Dano.
No matter how you see it, for better or for worse (for better in my opinion) Paul Dano has been typecast as how you have described someone being creepy, suspicious, and innocent. Looking back at his performances it seems that the Riddler role seems to take advantage of Dano's vindictive and almost zealous character experience as The Pastor in There Will Be Blood with the eerie, slow-burn mystery that you can find in his character in Prisoners. He has been touted as Hollywood's Most Punchable Face and for good reason, he is damn good in his acting.
This Riddler looks scary AF.
I've always liked the idea of The Riddler as a villain but I've never liked its image portrayal as in the campy Batman, Jim Carrey's, or any portrayals in green suits, bowl hats, and question marks dotted across clothing. I've always thought of The Riddler as dark, an enigma, inscrutable, and this new image portrayal is a great interpretation. The other portrayals are cartoony and costumey. But I do love this new version: sinister-looking with this type of mask and garb. This type of mask and garb is what the character needed; the mask is gold.
I actually conceived a Zodiac like version of the Riddler about twelve years ago for the Nolan films. I'm looking forward to see how close this version is to what I thought of.
I've never really cared for Riddler as a Bat-villain; always found him visually bland and kind of lame/predictable. So I'm pretty excited for this new interpretation of the character!
Paul Dano could be a great bit casting for a character that had been pretty much over looked. Like Newmar with catwoman Frank Gorshin made Riddler with his own energy and that laugh was something else
Can I just say I love his design? It's not comical like in Batman Forever, he looks like the zodiac killer.
I love it as well, they’ve kept the core traits of the character but reinterpreted them to be less flashy trickster and more Zodiac Killer which is a freaking perfect adaptation of what we know but also something brand new
Zodiac Killer wore a bag over his head and didn’t wear a big green jacket lol
The only proper way to do Riddler is to make him DCs Zodiac. Glad Matt Reeves agrees. Dano is gonna slay it.
Now the film is released you need to change this title to "Why the Riddler is a Great Villain"
If they do a sequel to this which they more likely will do I would like to see a revamped version of Mr. Freeze
The riddler has always been a great villain. He just wasn’t portrayed right in Batman Forever. He is Batman’s toughest intellectual match.
I hope we get a riddler spin-off after the batman movie because paul dano deserves his own spin-off as the riddler
5:24 Paul Dano will make it a classic
These costumes look great 👍
I big hope I have is that Riddler has a great backstory that explains his actions. I do not want him to be a misterious force of chaos like the Joker, I want him to be a smart villain with an understable backstory that challenges Batman's intellect and detective skills.
If anyone is looking to read a dark Riddler story in advance of this film, I cannot recommend Dark Knight Dark City highly enough. It’s this iteration of the character that made him one of my favorites. Kinda like Seven meets Die Hard with a Vengeance.
The only gripe I have with the movie so far is the cape on Batman. Just wish it was hitting the floor instead of stopping short at the heels of his boots
I think they’re going for a more “Hush” type look. Kind of a funny little nod to “reviving” a character. Not that I think this is Hush Riddler, just a small joke reference. But I like the glasses outside the mask. As someone who struggled as a kid to wear glasses with Halloween costumes, it’s very relatable to see someone slapping them on top of the mask 😂 Makes the Riddler feel even more human to me. An awkward intellectual playing dress up for the part, but who still wants to sell the character they’ve created. A great foil to Bruce’s own costume.
He already is a great villain
This movie is going to be really awesome
I'm personally very excited for the Batman and I really like the Riddler and the fact that he's very much like the Zodiac Killer
I really hope they stay away from using the joker in this new trilogy (?) Batman has other villains that could shine.
My favorite riddler is from the Gotham tv series
Batman Earth one vol. 1 shows that riddler is a worthy opponent
This Batman movie will be awesome 😎
I’m excited for The Riddler especially since the live action movies don’t show other villains apart from Joker most of the time.
And I am thinking that he will be doing things in the prison to terrorise Bruce in some way.
I'm amazed that no one ever mentions Paul Dano in There Will Be Blood. He managed to hold his own against Daniel Day-Lewis! That is a testament to his acting skills if you ask me.
In addition to the Riddler from the Arkham games, there's also the version from Gotham, which is (so far) the best live action Riddler).
does anybody remember fritz lang's classic M. where the mob hires someone to find the serial killer. The riddler is killing corrupt people in devious ways so the mob(penguin) and batman form a temporary alliance to catch him.
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I saw a screening of the film. The whole film is amazing with Riddler and Catwoman being the standout performances
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I hope they use hush later in the sequels. I feel like he’s underrated. He never been used in any live action movie or show
I’m definitely seeing a more realistic version of Batman: Hush in this story, which is just a perfect
Cant wait to see it. It's going to be a hit.!
I love the look of The Riddler. He looks like a genuine psychopath.
I loved Paul Dano in "The Girl Next Door." Wonderful performance🤣
Paul Dano had a fantastic breakout role in “There will be blood”, I have no doubt he is up to the task of this character
I remember being skeptical when The Riddler was confirmed as the villain but after they announced both Paul as the character and the design was revealed I was fully on board, as much as I love Frank and Jim I honestly think Paul will become THE definitive portrayal of the character, the fact that they’ve gone for the visual direction of the Zodiac Killer is freaking perfect because it COULD actually happen and that’s what makes this version so much more unnerving and unsettling which organically enhances both Paul’s performance and how people will watch him
#1 he looks badass
I like this take on the Riddler. Usually the Villains in Batman have been portrayed way too goofy and corny. So this will be refreshing i think.
They filmed large parts in Glasgow. Where I'm from. I hope to christ its good and can't wait to recognise parts of the homeland🤣
Daniel Bruhl as Mr Freeze.
Riddler and mr freeze are my fav batman villains and they say this series might try and do Mr freeze aswell so im more than hyped for this new batman franchise 😁
The riddler will be the best villain in the Batman’s gallery bc of the fact that Paul Dano is going for a more groundbreaking version of the riddler and also the fact that Robert Pattinson has been cast to portray this role of the Batman
I’d like to believe that I will seriously like this version of the Riddler better than previous ones. If another Batman movie debuts, I hope the next villain is either Two-face and/or Blackmask.
Great video.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great video man
Thank you Chris, glad you enjoyed it!
This riddler is up there with heaths joker
I just hope he doesn’t die I like it when they bring back good and interesting villains and I was disappointed when in Batman the telltale series he dies
I feel like after Nolan's batman, they wouldn't green light anything less than a compelling movie concept. The riddler is the centerpiece of this puzzle, and he looks great. High hopes, no expectations
Really good. Very inciting and perceptive. I think that you are right this will be an exciting new turn on the Batman and the Riddler. Any real comic book reader knows that the characters must and do change over the years to attract new audiences and reader. That is now true with the films. I cannot wait. Thanks.
Wow keep ‘em coming man this was great. I really think this role as riddler is perfect for Dano and I agree he was spectacular in prisoners just an amazing film with fantastic acting. Just started to realize this movie is only a month and a half away
Love this zodiac killer look