Turning a foul ball into a run scoring 'triple', a breakdown
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Best part of every breakdown is the pitcher overlay. I know it is a bit of work to get right, but keep doing it. They are fantastic, and showcase just how hard it is to hit in the MLB.
Kinda like the graph better but no complaints on either one 🤓
That overlay is the most useful visualization of a pitcher’s arsenal I’ve seen. Especially in this case, where you really show exactly why the change has been effective. If someone wants to talk tome about Heaney, I’ll ask them if they’ve seen this video first.
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it definitely puts everything into perspective and makes it easier to understand the “why” of pitching success
Totally agree, MLB needs to throw these in once or twice a game
Incredible analysis of how his pitches have changed. I haven't seen that anywhere else. You are helping keep baseball alive.
That really was awesome to see the in air pitch position comparison
Look up pitching ninja
Pitching ninja is on the forefront of this type of analysis
@@adamjenkins190 it really shows how cool this sport is. In a split second the best of hitters evaluate how the pitch is going out, the slight movement it is making and of it is worth it to swing. I know a lot of people who disrespect baseball for being boring or whatever else. However, it is probably one of the most technical sports out there. So many intricacies, from the analytics in the office to the adjustments on the field. It is more like chess than most other sports.
Randy Johnson 2.0.
Nice breakdown. Hopefully Jomboy media hires you on full time after your internship
squandered opportunity if they don't! ;)
Isn’t he literally the CEO of Jomboy, and the channel is based on his name?
@@kevinpucheu6003 good thing your not in the outfield!!
Guessing alot would go over your head!
i know that during the floorball championship they did this week Chris Rose was referring to jomboy as their intern
I’m so confused internship he’s been doing this for years???
Damn! That pitch breakdown was amazing!
Yeah that's why Baseball and Jomboy are the best!!
A sick breakdown tbh
Pitching ninja is a channel basically dedicated to that
Jomboy breaks down stuff that I am clearly too dumb to comprehend, but he does it, and I am so much smarter for watching
@@carlevans8825 that's some behind the curtain baseball stuff
After watching that breakdown I have no idea how anyone ever hits a pitch.
It's 95% guessing.....
Just that simple.
@@ryerye6ix6 🤣
My old man always likes to say its the hardest thing to do in any sport.
If watching this breakdown makes you think that, if you ever get the chance to go to a MLB game and sit directly behind the plate. You'll be amazed that the hitters even see the ball, let alone hit it.
@@MarkB-vp9ki I've heard that to hit fastballs you basically have commit and start swinging the moment the ball comes out of their hand
One of the best breakdowns in awhile.
The highlight was a bunted triple, super cool. Along with the pitch overlays and pitch breakdowns at the end, 9/10 why a non baseball watcher enjoys this channel
It was not a triple. More like a three-base error.
Yea. I've never really watched baseball. But Baseball Bits, Baseball Doesnt Exist, and Jomboy are amazing and I watch all of their content.
Don’t watch baseball anymore but I do watch jomboy
It should be a single and 2 errors
"If you're new to baseball...." this is why I love Jomboy, I am learning so much from these breakdowns. Entertaining sure. Funny, of course. But most importantly these breakdowns are teaching tools for baseball. And I love 'em.
Only thing is it’s not a triple.. it’s a single and an error
Thanks for saving the people of Ukraine by changing your profile pic bro.
@@anthonygarcia799 double and an error
It's a good thing Trae Turner wasn't the runner. He'd be called out for interference.
except in that instance the ball makes contact with Trae
@@candidfob8423 the ball hit Marte
an RLI call here wouldn't have been wrong, but I think the no-call was the better choice here.
still would've been better for Marte to run in the lane, then no one would even have to think about RLI
You can also take the quality of throw into account, since this was already a hail mary attempt at an out.
Was stunned when Heaney did this. Also knew the Mets would lose when they only managed to score the one run in the inning.
I wonder if Jomboy will do a Trumpet breakdown on yesterday's save by ED
@@RevengeAvenger He can use "ED" as a seamless segue into his Roman advertising message...
@@Praetoriusify 😂😂🤣
The win surprised ya didn’t it?
Pitchers are crappy fielders, because they're pitchers.
Goddamn Jomboy, you are a treasure. I'm a big baseball fan, I know how all this works, but actually getting to see it laid out like that and knowing that you're introducing and informing new fans... We don't deserve you man.
“Don’t tell strider mets got lucky again” 😂 as a mets fan hilarious quote.
This is one my favorite breakdowns in a long time! The curve/slider overlay was awesome.
I cannot express how much I enjoy the pitching breakdowns
I appreciate the overall breakdown and analytics on something I wouldn't have otherwise been aware of, but now I know and knowing is half the battle.
Jomboy had fun making this video. Love the sound effects lol
Great vid on pitch breakdown. Heard Slider for so long and didn't know the pitch. Learned Tunneling too. Just really great to be educated. Thank you. much.
You didn't know what a slider was until now?
@@Dynamic0NE Never knew how it flew. Never went after the info. You know how a Screwball flies? Spitball? I'm 72 next month.
@@BroMark1611 you look 97 in that picture
Geeze Americans have no regards for their elders. Why so rude? he was just explaining how he didn’t know how a slider travels, geeze.
@@alntr2872 we're not Americans though
Fun fact: if a pitcher makes a run-scoring error, it is still *not* an earned run
In other words, it doesn’t count to his ERA
Lol yeah very true because he is part of the defense at that point
@@JayD73
Weird technicality isn’t it? Lol
@Rohit Srivastava so how is the hit ruled? It can't be ruled a triple if there was a throwing error at 1st. Would it just be reached on an error?
Ive never been this early to a Jomboy video, now i can hide in the comments and no one will know im a Reds fan
LOOK! A REDS FAN!!
Was about to say the same thing.
Absolutely LOVE the breakdown-within-the-breakdown breakdown at the end. As a Dodger fan I know our pitching staff works magic on throwaways and finally getting a real glimpse into that just makes it that much more enjoyable throughout the season.
That was a bit of a wild game. Other than the unnecessary fielding error here, the Mets got a couple of homers off of Heaney. Someone must've told him, "Don't get mad, get strikeouts" because that's what he did that game. The Mets made the Dodgers fight to keep that go-ahead run in the 7th.
All three games were pretty nuts, but you gotta figure games between the two best teams in the NL are going to be nail-biters. I assume at some point they'll meet in the postseason.
It's so weird seeing his middle in 93 mph fastball get so many swings and misses.
"sometimes small ball(s) can play pretty big". - my wife 3 times a year
So, your batting average on balls in play is 3/365.25?
@@warlordofbritannia you are giving my nightly effort waaaaay too much credit. More like 3/17ish and I'm sleeping first the other 348 nights.
@@jkehoe7976
348 walks ain’t bad!
(So long as you get a full nights sleep)
@@warlordofbritannia I like the way you look at sadness. Glass half full
@@jkehoe7976
Nah, I’m just a Devil’s Advocate lol
Awesome breakdown, wouldn’t have noticed that but damn, when you have a fraction of a second to notice this stuff and it’s coming at you at 80+mph , I have no clue how these players can do it.
This is one of my favorite videos of yours. Absolutely love the breakdown of Heaney. That was very cool to see.
Don't know if it's everyones cup of tea but man I love the intricacies of the pitch mix stuff that you put in these occasionally.
Pitch breakdown was legit. Love the explanation and the common sense approach to addressing how his pitch release makes such a huge difference. The fact that the pitches look the same for so long even as the ball goes to the plate... wild.
It's called tunneling and it's probably the most important thing for a pitcher
Love all the overlay work! 💕 Can really tell why batters are having such a difficult time with him this season 👍
Love this depiction of how the interplay of pitches is sometimes more powerful than the variety. Fastball and slider look identical until half way to the plate, and by then it's too late for the hitter to decide what it is. Brilliant stuff.
Dodgers also have this weird magic to them by taking toss away players and bringing them back to life. i mean look at Tyler Anderson and now Gallo. granted, with Gallo it's a small sample pool but still. if he trends have he's been. he's going to have the last laugh against the Yankees.
This is the kind of video that make a dumb baseball person like me, sound really cool to my family when we watch a Dodger game on TV.
Holy shit Heans?! I played travel ball against him a lifetime ago in highschool, must be 16 years now. Jomboy aint kidding when he says late rennessance, fucking wild and amazing he stuck with it.
If only he didn’t pick it up….
Perhaps it's fair to say, LAD knows how to develop pitchers.
More career breakdowns, please. They're amazing to watch.
Shout out to Wichita Wind Surge!!! We are #1 AA Texas league!! 🤘😯
Love that pitching analysis in the second half of this video!
I'm just glad Freddie didn't reach his glove out to catch it and get his arm/shoulder jacked up by Marte running through like Muncy did last year.
Little League style!
The Heany special
If you guys like watching the pitching overlays, check out Pitching Ninja's channel :)
As a longtime Angels' fan, Heaney's ability to be so good and so bad at the same time always mystified me. He's clearly a talented guy and hate to see him go but it just seemed like he was never going to figure everything out. Glad someone did though and he's turned it around. That split between the fastball and curve was so obvious he might as well have been tipping his pitches. Fantastic breakdown
As much as I enjoyed the breakdown, I kept getting more upset with the Angels the longer it went. This goes a long way to explaining why we haven't developed good pitching (with maybe just a couple exceptions) in years. Clearly someone from the Yankees did this same type of analysis Jomboy does here, and now the Dodgers (of all teams) are reaping the benefits. Frustrating.
You can still tunnel a curve if the previous fastball you threw was high in the zone and then the curveball starts at that same height but drops lower.
Freddie always does that to Nimmo when Nimmo gets to 1st, now it's like a cute little thing between the two of them. Can't remember the 1st time Freddie did it, but it's been a couple years.
Damn Jimmy, as a Dodger fan I almost skipped this breakdown having watched the bunt turned triple live. The 7 minute length made wonder what you could be breaking down on a play you’d usually do in about 2 minutes. I’m so glad I watched.
I think you’re gonna have to put together a separate breakdown series on pitching. The actual focus of the video, why Heaney is suddenly a completely different pitcher, was gold. It is, reduced to the essence, simply the ability for a hitter to identify his curveball on release vs his slider. Even for longtime baseball fans, even knowing he’s changed his primary pitch, that’s really great stuff. I didn’t tie it to the batter’s ability to recognize what was thrown. Great insight!
Great video as always. We need more of this type of analysis during broadcasts! Let’s be honest, baseball is boring af if you don’t understand the game within the game, that’s what we all love about baseball. It seems like too many broadcasts are trying to avoid scaring off newer fans by “keeping things simple” but it’s just boring. This is what will get more people into baseball
Exactly! As someone who is new to baseball understanding pitch type, pitch framing, defensive cut-offs and other measures is what makes the game fascinating.
Absolutely 100%
Love your breakdowns. Gotta show Mark Prior and the Dodgers pitching staff some love as well. They definitely know what they're doing.
As a Cubs fan of 25 years, I'm glad Prior seems to be having lasting success, even if it isn't as a player.
This is by far one of the best breakdowns. I haven't seen anyone else doing similar analysis on the pitch change. This is why you never stops being a student of baseball! Great stuff!!
There's a video about how the side angle view of behind the pitcher ruins the spectators ability to see how the pitch truly moves. It all looks like it goes from left to right, variably landing last second, where as a straight on approach... it's more obvious to see exactly how high it starts, and far left or right it goes.
I'm real happy that Heaney is doing so well as an Angels fan. No doubt he'll see this video.
After the breakdown of his pitching I forgot about the dumb play until you brought it up 💀 🤣
I love when you do the side by side breakdowns and analysis. Super cool to watch your skillset grow in that space!
Jomboy, can you make a breakdown of Nimmo’s catch? That was a dramatic game.
This is an incredible breakdown. Great content. Thank you so much Jomboy 🤝
The actual thing in the title of video was only till minute three, was almost tempted to leave once I'd seen but I'm glad I stayed that was an incredible breakdown. You guys keep crushing it.
this was amazing. great work jimmy, the breakdown at the end was fascinating. as a very very armchair baseball fan ( I only watch your breakdowns :D) im learning a lot
This was an awesome breakdown. Would love to see more pitch analysis like this
Lol when I saw this I immediately thought: "The Dodgers pulled a Phillies". That's just how the brain goes after watching the Phillies commit a ton of errors against the Mets. It's a shame we didn't win this game because we've been so good at capitalizing on our opponent's errors but hey we won the next two and the season series and capitalized better on the dodger's mistakes in this game.
Next breakdown video is gonna pass 1 billion views on the channel.
Poor Freeman, gets Agented out of Atlanta, lands in this nonsense play
Ok, how about doing a series of deep dives into the different positions, explaining rules/oddities/what their stats mean/things you like or dislike...
Long time sub from The Netherlands.
I absolutely love these videos. So much information.
I say Freddie is signaling "toss it in my right hand" because he knows his left is gonna be blocked by the runner
Jimmy, we need this type of year by year comparison of Hader's arm slot change. I wonder if his tunneling is worse than previous. It's just baffling how that legend has crumbled
Jomboy used a curveball/fastball combo that hit the catcher at the same spot. Then used a slider/fastball combo that hit the catcher about 2 feet apart. Good video, but I wonder what the slider/fastball would have looked like out of the hand when the pitch hits the same spot, like the video he was comparing it to. 🤔
Heaney forgot they weren't playing by wiffleball peg rules
It was a fair ball and it wasn’t a triple. Poor attempt at clickbait.
I really enjoy hearing you talk about pitching. The end of this breakdown was much better than the beginning. Great work!
Got away from NY and immediately improved. Where have I seen this before?
Thank you so much for showing the shift of the strike zone. I think there's lots of times when that doesn't happen and the booth guys make calls about whether the "EQC tracer" (I assume that's a local sponsor for Mariner's broadcasts) shows it a strike or not.
This was an awesome breakdown of Heaney. I'd love you to do a breakdown like that for Strider, who just bagged 16 Ks last night.
Great breakdown Jomboy. You need to breakdown that catch that wasn't a catch by Spidey Sam Haggerty today.
You’re the 🐐. Every sport needs a jomboy
I watch every breakdown, this might be my favorite. You can show this to young kids and they will study the game 10x harder
Not a triple. It's a single and a two-base error.
Thanks for the pitch breakdown/superimposition....very educational.
Angels fans rn 😢😢
This gives clarity on how much of a bone0headed move that was grabbing that ball instead of letting it go foul
Everyone becomes good when they leave Yankees
Love that Heaney is back doing well. Guy's been through a bit.
This was so cringe to watch live 😬 I looked at my dad and started laughing and he's just looking at the tv in disbelief 💀
I'm surprised that the hitter ran so hard to first on the bunt. Manny Machado or Corey Seger would have half assed it to first while thinking about the 30 million they are making per year...RIP MLB
Could you do a breakdown on Brandon Crawford getting ejected in SF vs SD game 3 of the series? He got called SO on a 1-2 slider check swing by the 3rd base Ump.
you should do more of these jomboy!!
Jimmy, you have made me a baseball fan again. Keep this up! I love your attitude and the depth you bring. Excellent stuff!
Jomboy was right... I did like that.
Thank you, Jomboy.. (Everybody say thank you, Jomboy)
"Don't tell Strider this" 😂
Look Jomboy getting back into analysis…good for you sir!
Correct me if I'm wrong - but shouldn't that have been E-1? Or did the Home Scorer feel generous?
I've really enjoyed watching the work you've put in pay off! From some really basic editing & commentary getting a couple thousand views if it was a real high profile play or team to an amazingly edited breakdown of pitch physics which will no doubt be cited by any number of established "official" media. When your breakdown of the Astr*'s went national I was every bit as happy for you as anyone. You've done more to promote MLB than MLB seems to be doing themselves...the players definitely know and acknowledge it, it would be nice if MLB did as well. THIS is the exact type of content a "modern" audience requires to develop interest
Mr. O'Brien, you are the best thing in baseball. You are better than the game. MLB is so bad, I almost can't watch the highlight channels. I'm spending my evenings watching 1980 games. Nolan Ryan, artificial turf fields like parking lots covered in green carpets. Seriously. What's happened to the game, guys??
Love the nerdy breakdown stuff at the end. Doo moar plz. 👍
I’ve noticed that you generally (& generally is code for always) say , for example in this clip, “maybe that ball would have WENT foul”. Please do yourself a favor and say GONE , I noticed a lot of people are saying “went”when they should say gone. I’m only say this to you because I’m a baseball guy and I happen to dig you. Make an adjustment to restore some equity and set yourself apart from the average wind bag with a WiFi connection and a microphone Thx
In the great words of Joliet Jake Blues, "I GOT IT!!"
Thank you so much. I've always been told, "It's a fast curveball." Which I understood, but now I truly understand by seeing the same pitcher throw it. Reminds me of Jonny Bench with the Chicken on Saturday afternoons.
hey jomboy is there a way to title your videos without spoiling? sometimes i read it on accident and sometimes don’t click on the video because of it
Dude, Heaney needs to listen to Freddie because Freddie is the GOAT
Yeah, sure, statgeeks, keep on telling the gullible fans and ignorant baseball "minds" that sacrifice bunts are "a waste of an out." Guess what: Doubleplays are worse. So often, when a bunt-capable player lays one down, the battery or corner infielders butcher the ball, and/or fire it into the outfield. The poindexters oughtta watch a game sometime. I know they never played. By the way, Mark Prior might be today's guru to the southpaw, having turned around enigmas like Heaney and Tyler Anderson. Kinda makes one dread the eternity that Rick Honeycutt spent with the team.
In little league I gave up a bunt grand slam. I just stood on the mound and watched as my teammates continued to throw the ball away/ drop it all the way around the bases. The kid who 'hit' it had the nerve to celebrate. I was on the Giants we were playing the White Sox. I remember it vividly. It happened in 1994. Worst part is it wasn't even an intentional bunt. The kid swung normally.
It went from catcher > 1st base (dropped, oh and there were 2 outs)
1st baseman picked it up and threw it into left/center field
CF picked it up and threw it to the fence beyond the 3rd baseman
the 3rd baseman picked it up and threw it well over the catchers head while the hitter was celebrating and going back into dugout.
I did a full 360 on the mound watching as this unfolded while yelling to throw it home or just give me the fing ball. They did neither. 😂
Jomboy Media, could I recommend that you do a breakdown of the Orioles game tying homerun by Stowers? 0-2 2 outs bottom 9th down by 1, first homerun of his career and was preceded by a foul ball error to drop the game? Bro its perfect (coming from and Orioles fan, but still).
FUCK I'm totally gonna be on Jomboy after this. GODDAMMIT!
Also kudos Jomboy for using this embarrassing play as a teaching moment and not just beating on a dude for a bonehead play.
Awesome stuff on the pitch breakdown at the end. Also, little league dumb on that play.
This is a year old but the pitch overlay isn't accurate, because the Curve/FB overlay shows both pitches ending up in the same spot, while the Slider/FB overlay shows them ending in different spots. You'd be aiming high and out to a righty to land the curveball in the zone where that fastball ends up, which is why it seems to jump out of his hand comparatively, meanwhile the slider ends up at the guy's knees while the fastball ends up at the catcher's mask because that's what would happen if he throws that slider at that same spot. I do agree that his slider is really effective mostly because of how good the movement is with that sort of velo.
Dodgers pitching coaches are just amazing. It’s really wild to see, would have never thought Heaney could be good. I hate the Dodgers but gotta give ‘em credit on those pitching coaches. LFGM!