Maybe it's because of my undercover psycho father who was loved by all, but when I heard about how and where the father died my immediate response was to suspect that there was more to the family's relationship than we knew. It doesn't seem feasible to give up hope after 13 days
8:01 The people had no sympathy for the poor dad. He was just trying to explain and ask for help by handing out flyers, but they didn’t even look at him. They didn’t stop for a second to see if they could help or comfort the family. I just hope that wherever Mr. Kobayashi is now, he’s at peace.
This is why people shouldn't have leave their family and suddenly go offline stopping all contact. She cause her family extreme amount of stress and the end of her dad's life, yet in her statement she says she wants to focus on 'creativity' most people would not even be thinking about their art if they caused all this. So self absorbed.
Coconut wireless said marriage immigration scam early. Meanwhile here on Maui a woman of similar age was murdered and it barely made the news it’s weird how certain cases get more coverage
What a disgusting thing to do!! *How horrible can one be?* I asked myself. Then, I finished the video and remembered just how *EVIL* people have become today, even against their *OWN FAMILIES!*
@@lucyintheskyvi2284 I'm *KEENLY AWARE* that evil monsters have *ALWAYS* walked amongst us! However, IMO, I believe that the acts have become more brazen and disgusting!! It's absolutely sick, what people do!!
His mental health could have been really bad at this point which makes sense... this happened to Leah Croucher's brother, he ended his life as he couldn't take the stress of his sister missing.
Ryan hadn’t been sleeping during the 2 weeks he went looking for his daughter. He wasn’t eating either. Psychosis loves to visit when there’s lack of sleep. Compounding that with anxiety and stress can lead to unpredictable behaviors. And, in this case, his death.
@@AngelStormee there are countless stories of parents not being able to take the loss of a child, even if they have many surviving kids. Depression affects everyone differently, and some ppl succumb to its wrath more easily than others. I've met ppl who have gone thru worse than me, who have never gotten to the point of depression that I have. Mental illness is heavily impacted by genetics and predisposition. My brother has cried once in the past 5 years whereas I have struggled a lot more emotionally, despite us being related. It is very frustrating lol
So people are mad that they donated to a family who had no clue where someone was? knowing they were controversies about whether or not she was a willing participant?? 🤦♀️
Due to the circumstances, and the sketchiness of the whole thing, people should definitely be getting their money back. Hannah K demonstrated her complete lack of gratitude when she didn’t address anyone’s questions.
This is all so odd!! Why would she not just tell the family what she was doing? Even if they didn't like it, why wouldn't you at least tell them Then her father unaliving himself, not knowing anything about her whereabouts!? Did something happen between the two? Did they both have secrets they didn't want getting out? All my own options! Things aren't adding up
@anagalva3406 Doing this isn’t something normal. It’s obvious no one does this to their family and not feel bad she definitely is mentally ill in the mind
They made their story public and international, and everyone went out of their way to be concerned and help and donate. Everything about this was suspicious, and there was a death involved. Resources were wasted! There are millions of women and children who are missing that actually DESERVED national attention. Donations could have been used to help families in ACTUAL need. She was a grown adult who knew full well what she was doing. The LEAST she could do was acknowledge the publics efforts in finding her! Her entire stunt is egotistical, and the fact that she hasn't nor has the family acknowledged the very public efforts they ASKED FOR speakes volumes. Meanwhile, there is a child out there missing, and the police are barely lifting a finger to help that family. That is the true tragedy. The public isn't owed anything at all? They are ABSOLUTELY OWED AN ANSWER.
This is bizarre. I was under the impression she had something to do with her Dad's passing. Is there just not enough evidence or did she decide to ditch her life and then he unalived himself?!? On a different note, if she didn't know everyone was looking for her because she was in Mexico and ditched her phone you would think she would at least thank those who spent lots of time and money trying to find her.
he thought she was kidnapped and he was failing to find her literally just try thinking about it from his perspective without the info we have now guys
@@unturned6066 he did it at the airport she was last seen at. but continue acting like it's not the most obvious answer if it makes you feel cool on the internet.
@@unturned6066 so what do you think possibly happened that was totally unrelated to him recently uprooting his entire life to search for his missing child? because clearly the person whose thread your hijacking wanted theories not just a snotty "it's none of your business" on a video that is all of us clearly making it our business. you know, since you want to be the center of attention here so bad that it doesn't matter if it's negative or positive attention. we're all riveted. please explain.
The family look completely distant from the fathers dead and just care about Hannah being back, is clearly that they didn’t had the best relationship but the father also had his own family that I’m sure are devastated about his death.
I can't get over the father's passing. I feel we the people care more about her father's passing than she did/does! If anything happened to my son and I felt he was 'gone' ... I may take my life as well. Especially considering my life's circumstances, how I got sober when I got pregnant, etc. My son is my all.
Considering the family is being hush hush now that she’s home. I don’t think they were in the right 🤷🏼♀️. The dad taking his own life so soon after also makes no sense. Something you see when people are guilty of something. People are allowed to leave family they deem harmful so until we get actual answers, I’m not gonna change how I feel
That’s a good point I can see the father unaliving himself if he was so distraught but… it kind of takes away any chance you have to find her? You’d think he’d at least stick it out for awhile longer… Very possible she was trying to go no contact or something too
This would be grounds to break off family ties with her. She didn't care enough about them when she decided to disappear and leave them fearfully hanging, desperately trying to find her. Her father was so upset he un-alived himself, so she deprived him of at least a few more years of life, and her family of their father/husband/grandfather. Complete narcissist.
yeah…. no. daddy did something and she went no contact, he was worried about being “found out” and punished so he took his life. No distraught parent kills themself when their child is missing. they spend their lives looking for their child. father is an abuser and his victim got away.
@@alexisburrows3171 What a horrible thing to say and put out there. Unless there are allegations from a credible source or proof of something like that you should keep those suspicions to yourself. It has also been said that he wasn't eating or sleeping while he was looking for her and if he had any pre-existing mental health conditions, lack of sleep and nutrition could have caused psychosis in him.
I appreciate that we all want to speculate but please refrain from pointing fingers at the ones who aren't here to defend themselves. We have ZERO indication that the father was involved past worrying about his daughter. He can't defend himself. No one wants to believe their child would do something so irresponsible and harmful but it happens. Everyone involved has to live with the consequences of her actions including her, most unfortunately though that includes her family.
oh, please explain how murdering a defenseless child is similar to this. the difference is, in this instance, she did not know the father would k*** himself. in the other, death was imminent, therefore, manslaughter. also, that baby relied solely on her mother for sustenance and to live, the father died due to emotional stress. so f****** different.
I think the family is a victim in this and she is not the one benefiting from the money. The fact that they’re offering people a chance to get a refund it’s the right thing to do, and I see nothing wrong with the other keeping with what’s left. Considering her husband just died. And the money was donated, and if the people don’t request it back then it’s still a donation. I think it’s crazy that the police are not interested in talking to her, she needs to be arrested and tried for causing a false police investigation. She wasted a ton of resources and is being incredibly irresponsible.
I dont think the donations should be returned. Its not like hannah herself asked for them. The family used it to try and find their child they believed was missing. Everyone knew up front there was a possibility that she left on her own accord. It would be different if the family knew that up front.
No "psychologist " or "psychiatrist" is qualified in what they CLAIM to be. It's a group of snake oil merchants PRETENDING to be "scientists" yet, having failed to present a single shred of scientific evidence DEMONSTRATING any of their claims in their entire existence. What they're "experts" in, is in MANIPULATION AND DECEIT. Which they masterfully used to get into every area of Society from "education" to politics, to the "justice" system, on and on...
@@Lara-xu3yc No "psychologist" or "psychiatrist" is qualified in what they CLAIM to be qualified in. It's a group of snake oil merchants pretending to be "scientists" having failed to present a single shred of scientific evidence DEMONS TRATING any of their claims in their entire existence
@@Lara-xu3yc No "psych ologist" or "psychi atrist" is qualified in what they CLAIM to be qualified in. It's a group of snake oil merchants pretending to be "scientists" having failed to present a single shred of scientific evidence DEMO - NSTRATING any of their claims in their entire existence
She knew exactly what was going on when she’s texting her family the false information that she did leading them on a narcissist 101. just tell your family I’m bailing. Please give me my privacy and conversation. Who are you to say that she couldn’t just do that of course she could just get on a plane and go wherever she wants and disconnect that’s part of starting a new life. I don’t know where everybody thinks that they have to know somebody so much that they know they would never do that never say never.
Until authorities are able to make physical contact with even a POSSIBLE missing person’s case, they should not stop looking into the case, by ANY MEANS!
I just wanted to let you know the segments where you highlight the words and if is yellow highlight with white letters and the captions are gone, It is really hard to read. The red words on black backgrounds too. I would suggest using adobe color contrast checker to make sure your text is accessible. I applaud you for your commitment to including captions so I hope this info is helpful to you.
Or maybe she's just a concerned family member who's trying to convey the seriousness of their concerns without scaring her away?? What did she do that was abnormal or wrong in any way? Normal families are close with their relatives; grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins. Unfortunately, less and less so nowadays. But what on earth did you find bizarre about it? I don't think it mentioned a mother, maybe I'm mistaken. But it could be that her mom is gone, and the aunt has stepped up to play a larger role in her life. I haven't seen one suspicious thing from her
@@Aj04139I don't think that's fair. Overly emotional over a missing loved one? You would have hated to see my reaction when my mom went unconscious and I got a call from my stepdad at 6am telling me so.
@CrustyUgg but they knew she was alive at that point, she was begging for her to respond, that's what I meant by overly emotional, it would've been different if they didn't know she was alive at that time..I understand that's her niece but even her mother and sister weren't acting like that. She was crying and begging a grown woman to respond, I feel like the whole situation was disgusting and overly sensationalized
I know most will disagree but I don't understand how she could do this to her family & especially her dad. I'd never hurt & stress my dad out like this.
24:44 She didn’t ask people to look for her, because in her mind she wasn’t lost. There was video of her walking calmly with no signs of distress solo in the airport. She uploaded pictures of her marriage. She was not lost. People need to take a clue from the police and leave her alone. Not everyone wants to be under the SM microscope and she didn’t even ask for all of that attention. Her family reported her missing not Hannah so why would she be in trouble or owe the police or the public for that matter anything?
She doesn't owe anyone on the Internet an explanation and I am shocked at how many people believe they deserve that much! They're choosing to follow the story and put their energy into it she didn't ask anyone to! People's absolute entitlement these days is just crazy.
It really is, she’s 30. The fact allllll those resources were wasted when anyone else disappearing as a grown adult of their own volition their families are told “oh well, they’re a grown adult”. These people calling her a manipulator, selfish etc are insane.
@@betsy1803They don’t even know what her family life was like. We know what her parents say but not HER. How do we know she hasn’t been abused or coerced into this? Ppl are so simple, reactionary and ridiculous online 😂
so true, the public should have been not involved. but she did owe an explanation to her family and best friends to avoid them going through so much emotional stress thinking she was missing. Even if your kids are in their 30s, it must be heart breaking for them to suddenly go missing for so long.
@@MangelemerdeI mean it really doesn't matter does it? The investigation uncovered her doing something illegal. There is absolutely no way when it was all over the news and online that she didn't know what was happened. She showed very little care that her father is dead and it was likely due to her own actions. Do you have any concept of the amount of time and money wasted trying to find her when she was never actually missing to begin with and she was just up to criminal behavior? Considering.the fact that quite literally every single person who knew her was worried sick and hitting the streets trying to find her should give you a clue that her home and social life wasn't a problem. She got mixed up in criminal bull with her ex who has a record and is apparently not so great a person herself. And you want to blame her friends and family for trying to find her when cases of trafficking in this country are at an all time high? Even where I live teens and adults in their 20s are going missing in broad freaking daylight. It's not exactly a stretch to think someone took her when it's happening all over the country. Most cases just don't get national coverage. Even as close to DC as I am only one case of a boy going missing here even made national news. Not everyone gets recognition. Most times it's only put out nationwide if the family or police offer a rewards for information and it's always been that way. The only person to blame for this situation is the "victim" herself. Every single thing that happened was due to her own actions. She committed a crime. What she did will get you a felony in some places. She is in hiding not because she needs to "decompress". She's in hiding because she's trying to get out of the charges she's going to get for the scam and the lost resources that went into her disappearance. She's going to get jail time if anyone can actually get ahold of her. She and her ex. It's disgusting you want to place blame on her family instead of where it rightfully belongs. People like you are what is wrong with the world today. Always wanting to make excuses for people who do bad things because wit couldn't possibly be because they are just bad people.
They made their story public and international, and everyone went out of their way to be concerned and help and donate. Everything about this was suspicious, and there was a death involved. Resources were wasted! There are millions of women and children who are missing that actually DESERVED national attention. Donations could have been used to help families in ACTUAL need. She was a grown adult who knew full well what she was doing. The LEAST she could do was acknowledge the publics efforts in finding her! Her entire stunt is egotistical, and the fact that she hasn't nor has the family acknowledged the very public efforts they ASKED FOR speakes volumes. Meanwhile, there is a child out there missing, and the police are barely lifting a finger to help that family. That is the true tragedy. The public isn't owed anything at all? They are ABSOLUTELY OWED AN ANSWER.
She should be held accountable for her fathers death. This isnt something you can brush off and go "oh well, the fam will get over it" no there were consequences for your actions now take accountability
my first thought and theory was she may have got herself caught up in a cult, her father got too close, and her fellow cult members "Dealt in" her father, when they said her father died.
Addicts don't care about others feelings. they do what they want/go wherever, whenever they want no matter what. I have a family member exactly like this. Does all this stuff without any regard for family
Does his family actually beleive thst he took his own life? I am not believing he took his own life. He woildnt have pit that pain on his family, espwcially not knowing what really happened to his dauggter.
No doubt she will write a book, be on loser talk shows and make millions......................such a selfish person. No matter what she was up to she only had to let her parents know at least she was ok.
I didn’t watch this, but I followed the case, read that they were estranged and started working on it recently , he must have had severe mental health problems for him to erase himself from the planet like that, it wasn’t just Hannah’s disappearance.
Usually, it's someone marrying an immigrant for residency and/or naturalization purposes. In the US, you often hear of "green card" marriages. Edit - the immigrant would pay whoever they're marrying.
It’s heartbreaking that Hannah is being blamed for Ryan’s tragic decision when it’s clear his own narcissistic behavior-emotional avoidance and neglect-is the true cause of all the pain. His actions fit the Covert Narcissist pattern, where he disregarded her emotional needs (absent parent) and growing up with such inconsistency deeply affected her. Children of narcissistic parents often mirror those behaviors or carry the burden of their parent’s failings, and yet, the narcissist often plays the victim. Hannah deserves compassion, not blame. She’s faced profound trauma-first from being abandoned, then from his return only to emotionally crush her again. And now the INTANET turning against her? His choices were his, and blaming her is cruel. She needs understanding, not judgment.
Hannah's ex-boyfriend knew what was going on with Hannah the entire time but didn't tell her family about the "green card marriage" or law enforcement and certainly not to the public. Hmm. Very sus. People were invested emotionally around the world with many donating to help the cause bc of the family's outcries AND still no word from Hannah's ex-boyfriend.
first 🙌🙌 edit: imagine how crazy you would be if you just left. no text no calls its sick. and her father literally passed during the search and no condolences for that? its disgusting.
Borderline & Narcissistic by the description of behaviours.. She has probably been manipulative and difficult to deal with for many years. She did quite a number on the devoted Father. How sad. He obviously couldn't take any more crazy and heartbreak.
If one adult person could have just dialed if these texts were confusing. Really, none of this would have gone if one common sense person just dialed to get clarity on her messages.
I dunno, I think there was something fishy with the dad. Like someone said, one doesn't off themselves after receiving news that the one they're looking for has been seen alive and well.
She was probably at a guru retreat in Mexico, there’s a lot of Americans that self proclaimed guru, running retreats in Mexico and they are mostly American from the US.
They could have just let her live her life without trying to force her to come back. She obviously didn’t want to come back. She could have called any police department, said I’m fine I want to be left alone and that would have been that. She didn’t even have to talk to her family, the police would have notified them she’s fine and wants to be left alone..which would have been the right thing to do. Why would the dad off himself without even knowing if she was ok or not? All signs were pointing to her being fine. I didn’t get that part. It seemed to me like he used this as an excuse. Who knows what was going on behind closed doors…a person doesn’t randomly wake up and decide to leave everything they’ve ever known behind overnight.
This is such a sad story. I don't buy the idea that she's in psychosis or in a trance because it seems she pre-planned crossing the boarder, switching off the phone..et The poor father was consumed with despair and depression so likely was already having suicidal ideations before this happened and this just pushed him off the cliff! I really hope she did do this deliberately! Or she would be directly responsible for her dad's demise
Sooo the cops said she wasn’t missing ….. yall all decided that didn’t fit what you wanted . Her dad passing is rough he might have found out about everything and choose to do what he did to avoid embarrassment I dunno.. the immigrant in scam I dont care about any of that .. yall were told she wasn’t missing …
If her father suffered from similar delusions like her, he could have ended it believing she was gone or something. I mean, he could be as erratic and weird acting like his daughter. Some mental illnesses are hereditary. :-( RIP
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It’s the dads passing that I can’t get over. That piece doesn’t fit whatsoever.
Right!
Yes it does, we don’t know his mental state or mental health history. This could’ve been the straw that broke the camels back
Maybe he found out about her whole scheme and just couldn't take it
Maybe it's because of my undercover psycho father who was loved by all, but when I heard about how and where the father died my immediate response was to suspect that there was more to the family's relationship than we knew. It doesn't seem feasible to give up hope after 13 days
@@purrfectstormz8225 Now I'm so curious about your undercover psycho father..
The coworker who knew all along should have said something once it got past a couple days. So wrong.
8:01 The people had no sympathy for the poor dad. He was just trying to explain and ask for help by handing out flyers, but they didn’t even look at him. They didn’t stop for a second to see if they could help or comfort the family. I just hope that wherever Mr. Kobayashi is now, he’s at peace.
You think this whole stunt has sunk in yet on the daughter, that her dad dies and no one still has a complete truth of what really happened.
This is why people shouldn't have leave their family and suddenly go offline stopping all contact.
She cause her family extreme amount of stress and the end of her dad's life, yet in her statement she says she wants to focus on 'creativity' most people would not even be thinking about their art if they caused all this. So self absorbed.
he's not at anything, he's dead. what you mean is he can't suffer anymore.
Wasn’t her dad barely involved in her life…
@@SlimStefani still doesn't mean you won't be emotional to think your daughter is not alive anymore or human trafficked just because you're not close.
Coconut wireless said marriage immigration scam early. Meanwhile here on Maui a woman of similar age was murdered and it barely made the news it’s weird how certain cases get more coverage
Age, beauty, and how much awareness the family brings all play a role.
What is keeping you from making a video about it?
@honeybunch5765 Also race sadly.
@@rhenry7949What is keeping the actual press, journalists, police and overall media from doing their actual job?
@ not interested enough, not my area of expertise, lack of time and motivation to make any video on anything etc etc
I can’t imagine what the father felt on his last moments.
Poor man 😢
Maybe he thought she had died and he would see her again. However, it doesn't seem right that he would leave his remaining daughter like that.
It’s absolutely tragic poor man it breaks my heart
What a disgusting thing to do!! *How horrible can one be?* I asked myself. Then, I finished the video and remembered just how *EVIL* people have become today, even against their *OWN FAMILIES!*
Today? Evil like this has been around.
@@lucyintheskyvi2284 I'm *KEENLY AWARE* that evil monsters have *ALWAYS* walked amongst us! However, IMO, I believe that the acts have become more brazen and disgusting!! It's absolutely sick, what people do!!
Exactly once u see it u can't unsee it
Oh please. There is slavery and genocides.
hilarious to think people haven't done bad things especially to their families. If you're christian your holy book is full of those stories.
That's horrible that she would do that to her family, And her poor Dad.
I don't think she feels remose for her dad. The dad was absent from her life growing up. They're not close.
It really doesn’t make sense that the father would’ve unalive himself.
His mental health could have been really bad at this point which makes sense... this happened to Leah Croucher's brother, he ended his life as he couldn't take the stress of his sister missing.
Ryan hadn’t been sleeping during the 2 weeks he went looking for his daughter. He wasn’t eating either. Psychosis loves to visit when there’s lack of sleep. Compounding that with anxiety and stress can lead to unpredictable behaviors. And, in this case, his death.
I thought the same thing too. Like what about his remaining daughter?
@@AngelStormee there are countless stories of parents not being able to take the loss of a child, even if they have many surviving kids. Depression affects everyone differently, and some ppl succumb to its wrath more easily than others. I've met ppl who have gone thru worse than me, who have never gotten to the point of depression that I have. Mental illness is heavily impacted by genetics and predisposition. My brother has cried once in the past 5 years whereas I have struggled a lot more emotionally, despite us being related. It is very frustrating lol
Dog the bounty hunter on the news looking like a created character.
😂😂😂😂😂
like gurl
He’s just looking for attention. Kinda gross.
what does it matter what dog looks or doesn't look like? its not nice to judge you wouldn't like it
My money is on her releasing a book that “answers all questions” to profit off the public’s distress 😂
Clock it 😂
same here.
Or a Netflix series 😂
So people are mad that they donated to a family who had no clue where someone was? knowing they were controversies about whether or not she was a willing participant?? 🤦♀️
Yes, pretty reasonable due to the circumstances.
Due to the circumstances, and the sketchiness of the whole thing, people should definitely be getting their money back. Hannah K demonstrated her complete lack of gratitude when she didn’t address anyone’s questions.
This is all so odd!! Why would she not just tell the family what she was doing? Even if they didn't like it, why wouldn't you at least tell them
Then her father unaliving himself, not knowing anything about her whereabouts!? Did something happen between the two? Did they both have secrets they didn't want getting out? All my own options! Things aren't adding up
Did you just glaze over the ENTIRE section where they said she was likely suffering psychosis?
@@FeralDucky And you believe that? how naive of you
@@FeralDuckyit seems more plausible that the dad was suffering from psychosis 🤷🏽♀️
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@anagalva3406 Doing this isn’t something normal. It’s obvious no one does this to their family and not feel bad she definitely is mentally ill in the mind
They made their story public and international, and everyone went out of their way to be concerned and help and donate. Everything about this was suspicious, and there was a death involved. Resources were wasted! There are millions of women and children who are missing that actually DESERVED national attention. Donations could have been used to help families in ACTUAL need. She was a grown adult who knew full well what she was doing. The LEAST she could do was acknowledge the publics efforts in finding her! Her entire stunt is egotistical, and the fact that she hasn't nor has the family acknowledged the very public efforts they ASKED FOR speakes volumes. Meanwhile, there is a child out there missing, and the police are barely lifting a finger to help that family. That is the true tragedy. The public isn't owed anything at all? They are ABSOLUTELY OWED AN ANSWER.
Agreed.
This is bizarre. I was under the impression she had something to do with her Dad's passing. Is there just not enough evidence or did she decide to ditch her life and then he unalived himself?!?
On a different note, if she didn't know everyone was looking for her because she was in Mexico and ditched her phone you would think she would at least thank those who spent lots of time and money trying to find her.
he thought she was kidnapped and he was failing to find her
literally just try thinking about it from his perspective without the info we have now guys
@@nivisionwell, that's what you assume.
@@unturned6066 he did it at the airport she was last seen at. but continue acting like it's not the most obvious answer if it makes you feel cool on the internet.
@@nivisionyou didn't know her, her family, or her dad. But continue making assumptions if it makes you feel cool on the internet.
@@unturned6066 so what do you think possibly happened that was totally unrelated to him recently uprooting his entire life to search for his missing child? because clearly the person whose thread your hijacking wanted theories not just a snotty "it's none of your business" on a video that is all of us clearly making it our business. you know, since you want to be the center of attention here so bad that it doesn't matter if it's negative or positive attention. we're all riveted. please explain.
The family look completely distant from the fathers dead and just care about Hannah being back, is clearly that they didn’t had the best relationship but the father also had his own family that I’m sure are devastated about his death.
I can't get over the father's passing. I feel we the people care more about her father's passing than she did/does! If anything happened to my son and I felt he was 'gone' ... I may take my life as well. Especially considering my life's circumstances, how I got sober when I got pregnant, etc. My son is my all.
Considering the family is being hush hush now that she’s home. I don’t think they were in the right 🤷🏼♀️. The dad taking his own life so soon after also makes no sense. Something you see when people are guilty of something. People are allowed to leave family they deem harmful so until we get actual answers, I’m not gonna change how I feel
That’s a good point
I can see the father unaliving himself if he was so distraught but… it kind of takes away any chance you have to find her? You’d think he’d at least stick it out for awhile longer…
Very possible she was trying to go no contact or something too
Something doesn’t seem right
This would be grounds to break off family ties with her. She didn't care enough about them when she decided to disappear and leave them fearfully hanging, desperately trying to find her. Her father was so upset he un-alived himself, so she deprived him of at least a few more years of life, and her family of their father/husband/grandfather. Complete narcissist.
yeah…. no. daddy did something and she went no contact, he was worried about being “found out” and punished so he took his life. No distraught parent kills themself when their child is missing. they spend their lives looking for their child.
father is an abuser and his victim got away.
@@alexisburrows3171 What a horrible thing to say and put out there. Unless there are allegations from a credible source or proof of something like that you should keep those suspicions to yourself. It has also been said that he wasn't eating or sleeping while he was looking for her and if he had any pre-existing mental health conditions, lack of sleep and nutrition could have caused psychosis in him.
Or the family did something to her or they didn't have the best relationship. Who knows.
This is absolutely sickening….
I know, right?
Yes it is
Yes
Im only halfway through the Video but i have bad feeling
@@yaz2261 it’s awful
Ok im halfway thu. Were there any cameras on the parking lot where dad allegedly did what they say he did?
Considering it’s an airport I would assume so, they probably just have never released it to the public
That was so controversial and creepy…
The letter was delivered on my birthday. I feel so much dread.
Yeah something is very off about this whole case.....wow
I appreciate that we all want to speculate but please refrain from pointing fingers at the ones who aren't here to defend themselves. We have ZERO indication that the father was involved past worrying about his daughter. He can't defend himself.
No one wants to believe their child would do something so irresponsible and harmful but it happens. Everyone involved has to live with the consequences of her actions including her, most unfortunately though that includes her family.
Which concerned relative only sends texts instead of calling as well when they think a loved one is in trouble???!
So aorry they didn't include every last minute detail that isnt really relevant
Nobody aaid they hadnt?
They in the video said their calls stopped going through…. You have two ears and one mouth so you can listen twice as much as you assume and talk 😊😊
this is just like that mom who left her baby for 10 days while she went to Puerto Rico, and both of them deserve the absolute WORST
Comparing the two as equal or similar is pushing it.
@@JeniferJayRight?! Like... Logic and common sense is lacking
It's awful but definitely not the same. ..
You are either insane or your frontal lobe has not fully developed to even compare those two.
oh, please explain how murdering a defenseless child is similar to this. the difference is, in this instance, she did not know the father would k*** himself. in the other, death was imminent, therefore, manslaughter. also, that baby relied solely on her mother for sustenance and to live, the father died due to emotional stress. so f****** different.
I think the family is a victim in this and she is not the one benefiting from the money. The fact that they’re offering people a chance to get a refund it’s the right thing to do, and I see nothing wrong with the other keeping with what’s left. Considering her husband just died. And the money was donated, and if the people don’t request it back then it’s still a donation. I think it’s crazy that the police are not interested in talking to her, she needs to be arrested and tried for causing a false police investigation. She wasted a ton of resources and is being incredibly irresponsible.
The poor dad 😢
I think I'm going to disappear for a month so my family and I can make fifty grand off of go fund me.
Specifically her aunt…..
I dont think the donations should be returned. Its not like hannah herself asked for them. The family used it to try and find their child they believed was missing. Everyone knew up front there was a possibility that she left on her own accord. It would be different if the family knew that up front.
I left messages on her Instagram hoping she would be found. These details piss me off
Yeah there are so many people that are really missing that nobody's looking for or gets any type of attention on the air.
Ppease do not reference Dr. Grande, he is NOT a qualified psychologist or psychiatrist
No "psychologist " or "psychiatrist" is qualified in what they CLAIM to be.
It's a group of snake oil merchants PRETENDING to be "scientists" yet, having failed to present a single shred of scientific evidence DEMONSTRATING any of their claims in their entire existence.
What they're "experts" in, is in MANIPULATION AND DECEIT. Which they masterfully used to get into every area of Society from "education" to politics, to the "justice" system, on and on...
Really?
@@Lara-xu3yc
No "psychologist" or "psychiatrist" is qualified in what they CLAIM to be qualified in.
It's a group of snake oil merchants pretending to be "scientists" having failed to present a single shred of scientific evidence DEMONS TRATING any of their claims in their entire existence
@@Lara-xu3yc
No "psych ologist" or "psychi atrist" is qualified in what they CLAIM to be qualified in.
It's a group of snake oil merchants pretending to be "scientists" having failed to present a single shred of scientific evidence DEMO - NSTRATING any of their claims in their entire existence
From my research he seems like he IS lisenced. Any evidence or personal gripes?
Dr Grande only has a degree in counseling he cannot diagnose anyone lol
Pretty certain he states that at the beginning of every single one of his videos🙄
Can’t diagnose anyone without meeting them in person this is literal common sense.
Anyone can speculate about someone's mental state.
He literally says that in every single video ....
@ then proceeds to do it lol but ok :)
Why would she do that to her family?? You’d have to be so selfish
THIS STORIES BE COMING CRAZY THS DAYS
She knew exactly what was going on when she’s texting her family the false information that she did leading them on a narcissist 101. just tell your family I’m bailing. Please give me my privacy and conversation. Who are you to say that she couldn’t just do that of course she could just get on a plane and go wherever she wants and disconnect that’s part of starting a new life. I don’t know where everybody thinks that they have to know somebody so much that they know they would never do that never say never.
Not even her reactions about her fathers dead......
This girl is a narcist and evil
Until authorities are able to make physical contact with even a POSSIBLE missing person’s case, they should not stop looking into the case, by ANY MEANS!
22:48 what the actual feerrk
I would’ve never had guessed any of this. How incredibly deceitful and sad. May her father be at total peace, amen.
I just wanted to let you know the segments where you highlight the words and if is yellow highlight with white letters and the captions are gone, It is really hard to read. The red words on black backgrounds too. I would suggest using adobe color contrast checker to make sure your text is accessible. I applaud you for your commitment to including captions so I hope this info is helpful to you.
Are you sure you don't have CVD? They were extremely easy fir me to read?
Get a colorblind test
Honestly? I find the aunt "Lari" sus AF.
I thought she seemed extremely overly emotional, almost like she was putting on an act, just weird
Or maybe she's just a concerned family member who's trying to convey the seriousness of their concerns without scaring her away?? What did she do that was abnormal or wrong in any way?
Normal families are close with their relatives; grandparents, aunts and uncles, cousins.
Unfortunately, less and less so nowadays.
But what on earth did you find bizarre about it?
I don't think it mentioned a mother, maybe I'm mistaken.
But it could be that her mom is gone, and the aunt has stepped up to play a larger role in her life.
I haven't seen one suspicious thing from her
@@Aj04139I don't think that's fair. Overly emotional over a missing loved one? You would have hated to see my reaction when my mom went unconscious and I got a call from my stepdad at 6am telling me so.
@CrustyUgg but they knew she was alive at that point, she was begging for her to respond, that's what I meant by overly emotional, it would've been different if they didn't know she was alive at that time..I understand that's her niece but even her mother and sister weren't acting like that. She was crying and begging a grown woman to respond, I feel like the whole situation was disgusting and overly sensationalized
Idk. Something is off about the family.
Wonder if related to the Kobayashi Group the developers and resort owners who pay the local corrupt politicians?
That would've come out way earlier. Kobayashi is a very common last name
@ that’s what I assumed as well but haven’t checked or heard anyone else say they researched and ruled out.
Her poor dad…. So sad he lost his life due to her being messy
There’s more to this than we might ever know.
This is horrible😢
I know most will disagree but I don't understand how she could do this to her family & especially her dad. I'd never hurt & stress my dad out like this.
that don't make any sense you know most will disagree?? why? your words are like all others
😱 wow. Prayers for the family.
This is cruel very heartful..
Someone should have been with him.
This doesn't make any sense at all
24:44 She didn’t ask people to look for her, because in her mind she wasn’t lost. There was video of her walking calmly with no signs of distress solo in the airport. She uploaded pictures of her marriage. She was not lost. People need to take a clue from the police and leave her alone. Not everyone wants to be under the SM microscope and she didn’t even ask for all of that attention. Her family reported her missing not Hannah so why would she be in trouble or owe the police or the public for that matter anything?
The public no, police? Who have a LEGAL RESPONSIBILITY, yes, yes you DO....
something is off with the dad's death. really sad. seems like foul play.
Todd Grande, zero credibility
As with everyone named Todd
6:26 this guy looks like AI while I’m not wearing my glasses lol
This is not cool thing to do anyone yet alone family
She doesn't owe anyone on the Internet an explanation and I am shocked at how many people believe they deserve that much! They're choosing to follow the story and put their energy into it she didn't ask anyone to! People's absolute entitlement these days is just crazy.
It really is, she’s 30. The fact allllll those resources were wasted when anyone else disappearing as a grown adult of their own volition their families are told “oh well, they’re a grown adult”. These people calling her a manipulator, selfish etc are insane.
@@betsy1803They don’t even know what her family life was like. We know what her parents say but not HER. How do we know she hasn’t been abused or coerced into this? Ppl are so simple, reactionary and ridiculous online 😂
so true, the public should have been not involved. but she did owe an explanation to her family and best friends to avoid them going through so much emotional stress thinking she was missing.
Even if your kids are in their 30s, it must be heart breaking for them to suddenly go missing for so long.
@@MangelemerdeI mean it really doesn't matter does it? The investigation uncovered her doing something illegal. There is absolutely no way when it was all over the news and online that she didn't know what was happened. She showed very little care that her father is dead and it was likely due to her own actions. Do you have any concept of the amount of time and money wasted trying to find her when she was never actually missing to begin with and she was just up to criminal behavior? Considering.the fact that quite literally every single person who knew her was worried sick and hitting the streets trying to find her should give you a clue that her home and social life wasn't a problem. She got mixed up in criminal bull with her ex who has a record and is apparently not so great a person herself. And you want to blame her friends and family for trying to find her when cases of trafficking in this country are at an all time high? Even where I live teens and adults in their 20s are going missing in broad freaking daylight. It's not exactly a stretch to think someone took her when it's happening all over the country. Most cases just don't get national coverage. Even as close to DC as I am only one case of a boy going missing here even made national news. Not everyone gets recognition. Most times it's only put out nationwide if the family or police offer a rewards for information and it's always been that way.
The only person to blame for this situation is the "victim" herself. Every single thing that happened was due to her own actions. She committed a crime. What she did will get you a felony in some places. She is in hiding not because she needs to "decompress". She's in hiding because she's trying to get out of the charges she's going to get for the scam and the lost resources that went into her disappearance. She's going to get jail time if anyone can actually get ahold of her. She and her ex. It's disgusting you want to place blame on her family instead of where it rightfully belongs. People like you are what is wrong with the world today. Always wanting to make excuses for people who do bad things because wit couldn't possibly be because they are just bad people.
They made their story public and international, and everyone went out of their way to be concerned and help and donate. Everything about this was suspicious, and there was a death involved. Resources were wasted! There are millions of women and children who are missing that actually DESERVED national attention. Donations could have been used to help families in ACTUAL need. She was a grown adult who knew full well what she was doing. The LEAST she could do was acknowledge the publics efforts in finding her! Her entire stunt is egotistical, and the fact that she hasn't nor has the family acknowledged the very public efforts they ASKED FOR speakes volumes. Meanwhile, there is a child out there missing, and the police are barely lifting a finger to help that family. That is the true tragedy. The public isn't owed anything at all? They are ABSOLUTELY OWED AN ANSWER.
Don't blame the family...
"Intense spiritual awakening" could have been said to have some over paid "smart" person say she's having grandiose delusions 🤷♀
sidenote her sister is so beautiful omg
She should be held accountable for her fathers death. This isnt something you can brush off and go "oh well, the fam will get over it" no there were consequences for your actions now take accountability
this is so weird
The poor dad 😢
This feels like a teenage runaway but as an adult..........
Poor guy his eyes were so sad
my first thought and theory was she may have got herself caught up in a cult, her father got too close, and her fellow cult members "Dealt in" her father, when they said her father died.
Addicts don't care about others feelings. they do what they want/go wherever, whenever they want no matter what. I have a family member exactly like this. Does all this stuff without any regard for family
Except for the fact that not all addicts are like this
😢please families if there is a good man In your life tell him that u appreciate him and everything isn’t his fault 😢….amen 🙏🏾
Yes ❤️❤️
I haven't watched the whole video yet but why aren't they following the missing money??
Does his family actually beleive thst he took his own life? I am not believing he took his own life. He woildnt have pit that pain on his family, espwcially not knowing what really happened to his dauggter.
This!!!!!!!
No doubt she will write a book, be on loser talk shows and make millions......................such a selfish person.
No matter what she was up to she only had to let her parents know at least she was ok.
None of us are safe
I didn’t watch this, but I followed the case, read that they were estranged and started working on it recently , he must have had severe mental health problems for him to erase himself from the planet like that, it wasn’t just Hannah’s disappearance.
What is a marriage scheme? How would it be profitable?
Usually, it's someone marrying an immigrant for residency and/or naturalization purposes. In the US, you often hear of "green card" marriages.
Edit - the immigrant would pay whoever they're marrying.
You are undocumented. we get married, show the government we are legit. you get citizenship. you give me money
@ thanks !
dear Lord please help the family cope with their loss,and please show some karma love to the daughter
:/
It’s heartbreaking that Hannah is being blamed for Ryan’s tragic decision when it’s clear his own narcissistic behavior-emotional avoidance and neglect-is the true cause of all the pain. His actions fit the Covert Narcissist pattern, where he disregarded her emotional needs (absent parent) and growing up with such inconsistency deeply affected her. Children of narcissistic parents often mirror those behaviors or carry the burden of their parent’s failings, and yet, the narcissist often plays the victim.
Hannah deserves compassion, not blame. She’s faced profound trauma-first from being abandoned, then from his return only to emotionally crush her again. And now the INTANET turning against her? His choices were his, and blaming her is cruel. She needs understanding, not judgment.
Hannah's ex-boyfriend knew what was going on with Hannah the entire time but didn't tell her family about the "green card marriage" or law enforcement and certainly not to the public. Hmm. Very sus. People were invested emotionally around the world with many donating to help the cause bc of the family's outcries AND still no word from Hannah's ex-boyfriend.
first 🙌🙌
edit: imagine how crazy you would be if you just left. no text no calls its sick. and her father literally passed during the search and no condolences for that? its disgusting.
Borderline & Narcissistic by the description of behaviours.. She has probably been manipulative and difficult to deal with for many years. She did quite a number on the devoted Father. How sad. He obviously couldn't take any more crazy and heartbreak.
It’s giving mental health bc just to disappear is like that ? N then to take yourself out after 13 days?
If one adult person could have just dialed if these texts were confusing. Really, none of this would have gone if one common sense person just dialed to get clarity on her messages.
I dunno, I think there was something fishy with the dad. Like someone said, one doesn't off themselves after receiving news that the one they're looking for has been seen alive and well.
She was probably at a guru retreat in Mexico, there’s a lot of Americans that self proclaimed guru, running retreats in Mexico and they are mostly American from the US.
The statememt she gave to the media in the end just shows what a narcississt she is.
6:04 not the shout out to doctor grande, one of my favorites
They could have just let her live her life without trying to force her to come back. She obviously didn’t want to come back. She could have called any police department, said I’m fine I want to be left alone and that would have been that. She didn’t even have to talk to her family, the police would have notified them she’s fine and wants to be left alone..which would have been the right thing to do. Why would the dad off himself without even knowing if she was ok or not? All signs were pointing to her being fine. I didn’t get that part. It seemed to me like he used this as an excuse. Who knows what was going on behind closed doors…a person doesn’t randomly wake up and decide to leave everything they’ve ever known behind overnight.
Way too soon.
They hacked her accounts and took over pretending to be her.
How unfilial daughters, so irresponsible
Insanity.
This is awful
This is such a sad story. I don't buy the idea that she's in psychosis or in a trance because it seems she pre-planned crossing the boarder, switching off the phone..et
The poor father was consumed with despair and depression so likely was already having suicidal ideations before this happened and this just pushed him off the cliff! I really hope she did do this deliberately! Or she would be directly responsible for her dad's demise
I feel so sorry for the dad.. 😢
Sooo the cops said she wasn’t missing ….. yall all decided that didn’t fit what you wanted . Her dad passing is rough he might have found out about everything and choose to do what he did to avoid embarrassment I dunno.. the immigrant in scam I dont care about any of that .. yall were told she wasn’t missing …
Her statement conveyed herself as a victim what a narcissist manipulator
If her father suffered from similar delusions like her, he could have ended it believing she was gone or something. I mean, he could be as erratic and weird acting like his daughter. Some mental illnesses are hereditary. :-( RIP
Just commenting for the algorithm 🧡💛
dr todd grande is a joke.